The Haunted Mansion 7

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Warning. The following podcast may contain Scrim Talk, a hall of ill presidents, hypothetical Robert Downey Jr. accents, and Pat Sejack. The actor? Yep, we're still doing this. It's haunted mansion 7 on today's hot cast The Fright. All right, everyone. Capy. Capy. Oh, you knew it. Capy Lewis. You were ready to go on that. Capy Lewis. Okay. Okay. I only wait. Now Jason, be honest, were you ready to say Capy? Because it seemed like nobody was on the same page as me.

Well, I was ready to say my favorite track, Umbrella Man. Wow. You've just spun around your iPad with a photo of Umbrella Man. You have been getting happy with Capy all year. It turns out you're most listened to artists now. Yeah. Yeah. Capy Lewis. Right. And recently played on my Apple Music is, well, where is he? He's on there somewhere. Capy. I was listening to him on the way over. Wow. Wow. In the most recent, okay. Look, I took that delay as, which was in person delay.

We're not doing this over Zoom. Oh, yeah. I took it as a sign that we did not remember the assignment from last year. But I'm, you know, I'm ready to pounce on that stuff. I know. I'm worried. But I, you know, I guess I shouldn't be because last year, you guys fulfilled the assignment and then some, the yearly assignment that we leave here on these haunted mansion episodes. And I'm thrilled with that. I mean, maybe we should listen to one of these really briefly.

But for now, let me officially say welcome to Hotcast the Fright with three grim grinning hosts who in high school rarely came out to socialize. I'm the Gare Wolf over there is, I forgot my name already and I can't hold it up. Oh, Jack will scary then. Jack will scary then. I'll find it later. Uh-huh. Mike, Mike, Capyson. I guess it's going to have to be for now. Because he plays trumpet. Well, great. Well, here we are. Sparky snarl guns. Sparky snarl guns. Okay, great. It rose all the tongue.

I don't know how you could have thought. Perfect. Yeah, it's perfect. It's a perfect game. You're just so excited to talk about this graveyard jamboree and all the many goats. You know, of course. Yeah, yeah. And that's what we're here to do this year. And it's also, I mean, this is, you know, this is more for me than for you guys. This year is kind of a year of picking up the pieces for me. And we're still grappling with what happened last year.

Uh, you know, last year we did the Honda mansion live on stage Dynasty typewriter. And at the end of the show, I'm just going to get ahead of it. There was an unfortunate incident that I take 100 percent responsibility for. Uh, I acted as if it was possible to finish the haunted mansion entirely within 30 seconds. Uh, I conveyed this via a video. Uh, and then I, uh, I danced around like a fool. Uh, I made an ass out of, uh, you and me in doing so.

Um, and I, you know, the year has just, it's been a tough one. And it's brought me to this point where I have a lot of regrets about what happened, about the toxic display, yeah, in which I embarrassed myself. Uh, and I say myself, but I feel like it was, it was a different, uh, I mean, it was a, you know, I've done a lot of work and I don't think that's the same me that you're, that you're getting.

Right. Today, I don't want to go so far as to say that this was a Michael Richards-esque incident because I didn't say anything as he was. People was that, but the, but the spirit was, was hateful. Right. I think the spirit was in just as bad of a place. And that's, uh, I mean, if you don't, I don't jump in. I don't pile on me, uh, because I've been trying, or do. If you need to work through things about what I did, then feel free.

Well, I mean, obviously at the live show, I sat on stage and just dryly when it's not funny for a while. And then everyone was laughing more because I was doing that. Yeah. And then my fury was sated by the many different types of candy. They have backstage at the honesty time. Well, that caught, you know, we sat with some candy and we talked it over.

And we realized, you know, maybe that was not the venue and that, you know, obviously they were laughing because they, they associate me with comedy and with physical comedy, right? Even though they, you know, they, they shouldn't, but they knew they were witnessing a, a grim display. Yes. Um, what I'm able to cop to now and admit to today more fully is that at the time I was grappling with an addiction to speed, um, not the drug speed.

I mean, with speed, with speeding through, uh, uh, uh, topics. Right. Which is an energy I feel like I've brought to the show even in non-Holoween. Episodes. That's true. Yeah. And, uh, you know, just try to, that, that unfortunate spirit of trying to move things along and make sure that they aren't too, too dry or cumbersome or whatever, but that's not me now. This is a new me. This is, this is a changed me.

Oh. As you guys know, and I think, you know, you've, you've seen it probably less than the episodes and more, hopefully in my, my personal life. And we've talked through these things. Yeah. I appreciate what you, the work you've done. Thank you. You've worked a lot of personal work. I've canceled myself, right.

And now I'm back to, to hopefully un-cancel myself, but that's up to the audience, uh, ultimately, because what if I could paraphrase, um, the film Ferris Bueller, uh, what I've realized is the haunted mansion moves pretty fast. And if you don't stop and look around once in a while, you might miss it. Um, you know, we're not gonna be in here forever. We're not gonna be in the graveyard forever. We're not gonna be in the ride for it.

So what am I doing trying to rush through, you know, we're gonna look back on these times as the greatest times in our lives. Uh, you know, most, we're gonna look back on a haunted mansion series that was mostly done in our 30s, but by next year, all of us will be 40. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Not just one of us. And I, and I, and I, and it's also not the new me to call out the one of us who was 40 currently. Thank you. Yeah. I appreciate that.

Yeah. Jason, you should say thank you too, so that nobody's sure which one it is. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for being that for obscuring the actual truth that should, that should throw everybody off the trail. Wow. But anyway, what I'm excited about is that this is gonna be the first year and after a lot of haunted mansion episodes. This is gonna be the first one with a reflective Scott. Oh, yeah.

Scott, a serene Scott, any of the adjectives that were applied to Trump by New York Times editorials after the shooting, yeah, yeah, you could apply all of those to me. I am changed, Scott. And as such, here's what I wanna do. You're taking our time. There is no rush. And in fact, any role that I've ever taken on of being the person setting the pace in these episodes, my hands are off the steering wheel. Now, it's entirely on you two guys at this point.

I do wanna make sure this is not an act and there's not like a minotaur about to burst into this room. That's changed, Scott. Yes, old Scott, consorted with nefarious minotaur types. But that was last Halloween and then again, in January, you're sick. But that's a long time ago. As with Donald Trump, who was a completely changed man within two days, which stuck. Now, as you're hearing this, we are so much deeper into an election site.

We spent so many weeks cozying up to the chain subdued, non-polarizing Trump. And it's the same thing. Even if the minotaur happened two days ago, that's a different man. So relax, everybody. That's what this is gonna be about. Cool. It's relaxing. It's up to you. We don't need to leave the graveyard. My hands are nowhere near the steering wheel. I'm in the second backseat. I couldn't reach it even if I had a gripping pole. Oh, wow. Okay, well, let's let Jason steer the ship today, I think.

Yeah. That's my preference. Well, Jason, I mean, I feel like you've always been a little bit of a moderate in the segment. I agree. Yeah. You've found common ground with both of us. Jason has been the primary one saying, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait. And actually, I think if anything, today, I'm gonna be the one saying, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, asking for more details, making sure that we really enjoy this time together. We're not gonna have it forever.

Wow. That's very profound. Thanks. And I have pretty much taken a lot of work to get there. You know what? You know what I'll say? Is this is perfect because I want to talk about a couple things that aren't where we left off. They are back. They're going back because I just went on the haunted mansion. Okay. It is haunted mansion holiday, of course. Sure. We have a really different story. This is another, we don't even have a plan for how to do it or when to do it.

We don't know how this factors into this, this year-leab series. Right. So, haunted mansion holiday, I just went on a couple days ago and I want to praise the original mansion. Now, we're not haters of haunted mansion holiday. We're like a general Disney fan who wishes it was just a little shorter of a window for haunted mansion holiday. Even this time around, it's been that since July, something like that. Strange. I love the Halloween season. I want to spread. Right.

But it feels weird, does it not? Yes. And what this occurred to me as I was going through pirates, funny enough, that section where they took away the mist in the hologram. I was going through there and that is maybe my new favorite part of pirates, is that dark tunnel because it's mood. It's like serene but scary. And as soon as I started haunted mansion holiday and it's like, da da da da da da da da da the jack was here and then blah blah blah. I was like the mood is gone.

The complete first part of the haunted mansion with the mood and the still and the somewhat like there's the ghost host but there's silence. And you really like kind of melt into the scaryness of it. That's gone. Yeah. And I really appreciated the regular haunted mansion for it setting a mood which is missing in our modern film, our modern TV. A lot of rides. They want to pummel you with things dialogue with. This is what changed Scott has been saying. Everything is so fast paced.

Why are we doing it? What are we, what we're, we're gunning for the destination and enjoying the journey. Exactly. It's funny you say this because it's a thing I've been thinking about lately, you know, going through the big book, going through the Jason Srell coffee table book and seeing clips of one at mansion holiday. As we must do, Shane, it knew old Scott would have said, why are we slavish to reading this one book and repeating what we see in it, page by page every year.

Why do we just copy the work of Jason Srell and put it in a different form, but change Scott would never say that. That's not fair. We also look at do muggies a lot. And with the media, no insult to Wikipedia. I have a lot of the Fox multi book, but once again, I've been told it's very good. The haunted mansion, like stuff that came after the movie, the haunted mansion, the popular consciousness and like derivatives of the movie, the movie is a lot more grotesque. I feel like a lot more.

Which movie are you talking about? Not a lot of animation movie. I see. Yeah. Yeah. The actual stop motion one, like it's a lot more yuri. Yeah, for sure. I feel like then the kind of whimsy of the, you know, there's a little bit more messed up. It's a little bit more off kilter. Yes, that's true. So it's almost like they took the energy of the like delivering presence sequence and made it entirely that. Right. And there's not the like, yes, the more foreboding.

Yeah, that's, that's a little of a slower movie actually. Yeah, absolutely. Not a lot of the insane doctor scientist character in the ride. In fact, I don't think there's any of them in the ride. I also wish when they built it, I don't know if this is a Bob Gur thing, they should have built it so that the ride could only go a certain speed because they move that thing so fast and they still were doing that up until a couple of years ago at regular mansion.

That thing is motoring through the haunted mansion. Those doom buggy should be going slow, slow, slow, and they should have prevented it from happening in the early days where I'm saying it should barely be a ride. What is them? What is the slowest it could possibly move and still technically be a ride? Yes. So I was like, this is going too fast and the individual. There should be individual people pushing each doom buggy because how fast could a person make those move. That's the speed.

You should be a very, a belabored back breaking pace for one person to push. Yes. So that, yes. I was really, I appreciated the original mansion in a different way when I was on it. I also want to say this. Last year, I was hoping that we could do a whole section on the new haunted mansion, Q and GIF Shop. That's right. We're seeing this in the live show. Yes. People were excited about it. People were excited about it.

Beatles, S, Shriek, every time the notion of discussing the new Q, the new landscaping. Yeah. Because they, GIF Shop, they had recently shown art, I think, last year I mean, of this. And it was like, oh, they're really doing the graveyard up outside and they're going to be a little GIF Shop. And of course, foolishly, I'm a foolish mortal. I thought, oh, this will be built in a year. This is just a change in the line around and they're building a little shop for the merchandise. No, wrong.

They just went vertical on the GIF Shop. There's literally steel beams I saw three days ago. Finally, it's just like four beams and like a roof outline. And I went, this is just starting now. I mean, it's almost like believing hypothetically that if the Disney company comes out on a stage and tells you that everything that they, a lot of plans they've announced are all going to be wrapped up in five years. It's almost like believing that hypothetically with no hedging of bits. That's true.

Well, that's why they want you to dreams and wishes and magic. Yeah. So like, get them, get them into the fantasy because the reality is going to be construction walls for a decade. They should say, yeah, wishes, imagination, and then believe us. They should say like, believe us. They should slip it in and there's like little presentations. They might say it subtly. If you listen, if you crank up that sound, we're hearing it subliminally. Believe us. I know.

Well, that also is what, you know, because it changed me who wants to take his time with this. I was looking forward to that cue so much. And it's why I have to institute the policy of just taking our time in the graveyard because I want to be talking about each bush. You understand? You know how much I want to change me?

Just to be here talking about the height and width and depth of every bush and what kind of bush they are and then the full history of how long has that bush been grown in America if at all? Maybe we discover they're foreign bushes. Yeah. I think we're here for the first time. White. We could have, John, a little, like we could have taken a little piece off each bush and then taken it to a forensics lab and figured out exactly which bush where each bush is from. Oh, kind of an ancestry.

Yeah, for a blind life. No, the bush. You know a bush guy, probably, that could do that. Yeah, I could probably get in touch with a bush guy. Okay. Because they could, yeah, they could date the leaf that you give them. Or, yeah, I'm sure they could figure out a lot of things about the leaf and then we could do a whole leaf episode. But not you, we can't now. We can't because it's not built. And they, I'm sure they're still moving headstones. Yeah. Well, yeah.

So there's a virtual cue going on at the Honda Mansion right now in the year 22. If you're listening to this in the far future, it's 2024. There's a virtual cue for Honda Mansion Holiday. And it's got the matte. Really? Yeah, that's the only way you can do Honda Mansion right now. Oh, God. You have to get in the, either at the 7 a.m. or the, in the noon slot, you have to get a reservation. That's the only time. Every, okay.

So everything's more complicated, more expensive and the whole resort is the construction subject. Yeah. So there's only a little bit on the lawn. You can walk through. The, the, it doesn't, the line goes fastish, but it extends out all the way almost into like pirates, the, the virtual cue line. So it's a big mess. So we're still it. It's still, yeah, you pay a lot of money.

It's tough to get reservations and impossible to get annual passes to get into a, into the Disneyland that still has the issue of the pirates crowds and the Honda Mansion crowds. Just like bash and bash. Yeah. Like a, like a giant west side story. Yes. And I, yes, the, the logic of not completing the cue for the Halloween season to me, I don't know what, what, how much money did they save for not finishing? And it's like they weren't thinking about us.

Well, they certainly weren't thinking about us and they never do. And that's what we complain all the time. No, they never think about us. Yeah. Yeah. We weren't at D23 Front Row cheering daddy on. Well, they also knew that we would have been there, that they would have said, all right, you'd stark flight test attraction. Boo. What's up with the cue? What's up with the new garden? Yeah. What kind of bushes are you using? There's just what kind of bushes are you using?

The, there should be a world. If you didn't see D23, they did this presentation with a stark flight where it was Bob Eiger and then they revealed it was Robert Downey Jr. next to him. In that world, there should be a third reveal that Jason is next to the two of them in the stark flight lab vehicle. And I like got a no pad in my reporter, like Fedora with the pressing in it. And I'm like, are you here as Tony Stark or as Victor Von Doom? The people want to know.

Yes, they know we would have done a video this, in this instance, not a photo. Yeah. You would have said that in real life, but I would. I mean, I could have held up like what I was asking him. Is he going to have trouble keeping the parts straight in his head? If he's, if Disneyland is asking him to return to Tony Stark, a role, he's probably long forgotten out of play because he is so in Von Doom mode.

And he's been, you know, that amount of money that he's making, that means you are getting a what? The $80 million performance. You said $80 million last time. I wonder, guess before I think it's at least a high red, at least $100. Great. So he's putting $100 million worth of effort into his Von Doom. Yeah, yeah. And then Disney's asking him to go the other way and also be this character that's dead to him. It's ash to him. How is he going to do that?

Well, we can only ask so much of this one man. I think maybe they should, you know, see all the different variants of Tony Stark. And maybe one of them's like a whimsical 18th century, you know, scientist who can talk to the animals. Oh, smart, yeah. Now this is another one of those were in a past me. You might have tried to move past do little very quickly, but I feel like my new spirit should be whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down guys. Tell me something else about do a little. I don't know.

Let's let's let's milk this tangent a little bit. Let's talk do a little. I think you know everything there is to know about do little. You know about the wait, it's okay. Because yeah, let me see. He can talk to the animals, squawk to the animals. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah. It's okay to be scared. It's oh, that's right. It's okay to be scared. And then there's the like French horn in the butt at the end. Oh, yeah. But that's really what you need to know.

Dragon needed to fart spoiler alert. Yeah. So that's the finish. That's the finish of the movie. So there's not much more to say about that, but I'm hoping for an accent for Vanduum. That's what I'm hoping for. Oh, yes. I am really hoping for an accent from Robert. Yeah, I make them well sure something. Yeah, it is. Well, now that we're okay, tangent are all right. I am hoping that there's no connection to Tony Stark. He just kind of looks like the guy, which to me, me, is a funny decision.

Because everyone's going to be like, well, you look like and they're like, no, no, I'm not him. And then that's it. I can't imagine that's what they're going to do. We'll see. But that to me, that's a funny narrative choice of like everybody's going, oh my god, you're the guy. And he's like, I'm not. I am a different guy. And then you're like, okay, and then we'll fight him. And you're from Transylvania is the idea.

He should do like a Darth Vader thing, whereas underlings go like, you know, you look like and he just vaporizes them. Maybe. And it's a little gag. It's funny, a little bit. What I think, what I think will happen, and this is, I'll make a big prediction now, because what is this 2026? Is the first one or 2025? I can't remember. Yeah, I'm not sure. I think 2026. But we will still be weak. We're going to come back to him. We might potentially still be in the graveyard.

So I want to make a prediction that, because they said he will be Victor Vandu. My prediction is that it's a variant Tony Stark that was kidnapped by like Mama Vanduum when he was little and then raised his Victor. But actually he was Tony Stark and he has good inside of him. Yeah. And at the very end of like secret wars, he flips and does something heroic and either he dies or he lives an Iron Man 4 happens a year later.

I mean, I think that whatever the solution is that gets the most movies in him back together. So I think he will be related to Tony Stark, but we'll see. Yeah, yeah. That's my guess. Can change Scott, say no, no, no, slow down really quick. And just can I just ask for you guys to just name five Marvel comic artists off the top of your head? Oh, just say five names really. And don't you say anything funny? You say anything funny. Just say whatever you want to do it.

And your hands are on the wheel, say five names and don't add any jokes or do anything funny. And the history of Joe Manorera, Andy and Adam Kubbert. Yeah. Well, that's two. So you're moving a little faster. Slow down. Herb shrimp. Okay. Good. Wow. Like not, it's not herb shrimp. You're not, you're not just thinking about herb shrimp. No, I'm not. No. Um, I'll say, uh, uh, Mike Warringo, Rest in Peace. Rest in Peace, the late great. Well, Mike Warringo, peace and love, peace and love.

He would, he would sign Ringo as his signature. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah, you're great. Yeah, Jason, you want to? Oh, wasn't that five? Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah, that was five. Sorry. Yeah, yeah. But again, it's your, you got, if you, and at any point in the episode, if you want to say the name of an artist, feel free. Great. Hey, everybody, it's Tim Heidecker here to tell you about a tremendous week in office hours history. We had two big episodes this week.

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AAH of your choice. Okay. Do you have any chance to? Flank. Do me that. And at this, but with that, Jason, you're steering. Yeah, you're doing it. I'm not even sure exactly where we start. I think it's up to you to plan us in that position and take us on a ride. Well, I was pleasantly surprised to find out in the live show. I did mention the caretaker, grave digger, lit with real lighting, UV lighting. All other goes lit with black light to distinguish. So I did cover that in the live show.

Great. That, hey, look, I was surprised. Well, we didn't cover. Is the giant scrim with the ghosts flying up in the sky? Yes. Very good. Yes, very good. It is an old, like, magician technique known as the magic lantern. So yeah, when you're leaving the attic and your doom buggy is tipping over and you look over and there's ghosts flying out of the graveyard, that's what Jason's talking about. Yes. And it is a very cool effect.

Every trick, when you look into it, it's just like, ah, it's an old magician thing. It's the most 100 year old trick. It doesn't like other than like maybe those new, like the beast effect in Japan and other things, which maybe those are still old magician tricks and we just don't know how they work. They might be based in some most things. You go, ah, it's purpose ghosts. Most things are like, oh, yeah, who Deany did that a hundred years ago? Yeah. Who Deany made it?

Yeah. I prefer really, we owe everything to pepper. Right, is that Robert Duney? When I hear Pepper, I think of Robert Duney Jr. Because he'll pepper. That'll be the character. I thought you were saying that once he's finally free of the hundred million dollar burden that then he'll make a movie where he's pepper. Oh, that's good too. So he made that how he made the ghost.

So that, yes, because he'll say then, because he says Pepper Potts is the name of when it's Peltra's character in the Iron Man movies and he says pepper a lot. So it'll be a similar thing to like Michael Douglas and Ant Man saying Scott with behind the candle labra. Oh, yeah, right. What he calls, all right, peace, Scott Thorsten, all right, peace, Scott Thorsten. Yeah, yeah. That's for the memories. Thanks for the movie.

Yes. So hopefully that he will make a pepper ghost or he'll be who Deany and Tom. Well, what needs to happen is he plays Pepper and at the end he, he posts credits, he meets Hugh Jackman prestige and he meets Ed Norton illusionist. Oh, wow. And he's back in his shared universe again. Of old mistakes, you know, of old magicians, yeah, magicians or just guys who know who have a lot of mirrors.

And then they can recruit the name here, Etienne Gaspard Robertson who kind of was famous for his magic lantern, right illusions, a trickery made famous by Belgian magician, Etienne Gaspard Robertson in shows in which he would project ghosts on du cause, which was thin enough to see through en masse by smoke. That's from doing buggies. Okay. So that's another old magician.

I think part of the appeal, part of what makes no one imagine, especially as you just layer trick on top of trick on top of trick. And it adds to the unease in the spookiness. Now, whoa, whoa, let's slow down. I don't mean to put you on the spot, but can you just find a list of 10 French names and say them all please? I am. You're waiting. Hold on, he's Belgian. Oh, sorry. Belgian names. Thank you. I do not know where to start. I do know that name is pronounced Etienne, I think.

Okay. I don't know off the top of my head. Next year maybe we'll start with the list of 10 Belgian names. Anything. Any band. Any band. Regular people living in Belgium today. You can make them up wherever you want to get your Belgians. This will be a real test because usually we say the assignment at the end of the last episode. You listen to the last episode before you start. And you go, oh, right.

So now this one will have to remember it comes like a half hour into the episode, not at the end. Well, and mainly Jason. Jason, we're getting off easier. Jason is the same 10 Belgian names. Yeah. Okay. And as long as it's clear, I was just happy that the capy thing was simple because I didn't finish last year's episode until about eight o'clock class. Sure. And I was listening and I was like, I hope I don't have to scramble to acquire something. Oh, yes. Oh, no, I forgot.

I was sent on a mission. I have to find there's a mountain open until. Wait, wait, they sent me into the sea. I have to go, I have to take an old map and then it like connects to a part of a broken watch. And I have to put them together and then fuse them somehow and then magic's going to shoot out of that. And I have to have that at the top of the fucking butt. I need to. We have any Pacific Ocean waters sitting around. It's the only way to activate the magic watch.

Capy also is the name of Mario's cap in Mario Odyssey. Oh, so that is like we have to get a sentient cap with eyes and wear it. Oh, yeah, yeah. And before the next episode get a cap and bring it to life, bring it to life. Yeah. So then we're all like, what do we? Oh, God. Well, only solution I could think because I don't know any magic. Only solution I can think of is to masturbate into this hat. That's a bring it to life.

That's the only way to bring it to life is to give it living beings to like bless it with living organisms. And the only ones we can produce are sperm. I like this. We've, yes, we've happened. We've happened. That's ultimately sort of that way. Yeah. Sure. Can I say something serious about the scrim?

Yeah. Yeah. As a kid, especially, I think when you look over to the graveyard, the scrim like takes away even you wanting to look at the ceiling to notice how big like I feel like it's a good trick to move your eye to prevent you from like going over stolen room. It really makes you helps to make you feel like you're in like outside, basically. You're in outside. You're in outside. You're in outside. And it's still like you're like, ooh, look at that.

It's still like such a good trick and it still looks good. And the scrim itself is like hazy. You can tell it's a scrim but also it makes it look like it's foggy out there. Yeah. Yeah. It like kind of like you can tell, oh, there's something going on there, but it kind of just looks like it's fog or haze. It might be like the entirety of the atmosphere throughout the ride, but especially as part of the ride is the use of scrims. Yes. Scrims are the secret weapon of the haunted mansion.

Now there is a story and I don't remember if it's this part of the scrim, but I saw, it might be closer to singing bus, but according to the book More Mouse Tales, there was a grad night one year where some teens trampled the grave. You're like, got out of somehow removed the safety bar, got out and destroyed the scrim among other dens. This happened. This must have been by the, when that book was published, that must have been early 90s. And I'm thankful I didn't know about that before.

It might have made me not want to talk about the haunted mansion at all. So a pit to painful of a memory. Yeah. Two upsetting, yes. Teens. If they knew the history of a TN and all of that, they wouldn't have dared touch those screens. That's why we need more magic education in schools. That's, yeah, that's true. We do need a whole hour of magic. I'd like that as a parent. If you guys are in school and then had magic class. Magic 101. Yeah. That's true.

That's funny because that's what people thought the, the, the, the totans would do for Mr. T, like they thought, all people are going to deal with Mr. Tode cars or destroy the ride. Not realizing that if you're a Disney fan, if you're enough of a Disney fan to be posting the word about it online, that means you are so scared of ruining anything. The ride you would never, you would never go near. Right. Any of these precious items made by the, the coats and the inches of the world.

Like there are a lot of people online currently upset about the rivers of America closure and they post every day about what's, what's going away. Like, yeah. But like, no, I'm scared of some of them. That's a new, that's a different. That's a different one. That's a different one. That's a different one. That's a different one. Some are a new, a new breed. Well, if you say I like the water and I like the boat and I don't want them to go away, of course. Mm-hmm. We agree with that.

Yeah. We're destroying our heritage or Disney, Disney hates America. Disney hates America is my favorite one. Then perhaps we're on the, we're on a different side. We're on a different viewpoint. Some point deeper is going on. I like the water and the, and then also what, this is again, I'm glad you gave me permission to talk to. It was slow down. No, no, no, wait, wait, wait.

Because ultimately, and I see this in the, in a lot of spheres, fan spheres, people who upset for corporations being in various decisions. Ultimately, a lot of these decisions are made because of capitalism and how corporations are continuing to just try to maximize profits out of every square inch of land. Like, or every IP, they're trying to, well, there's no IP on rivers of America. We should just shove cars there. That's water. What's the IP of water?

That's a like runaway capitalism decision. That's not a hating America decision. But it's funny because the people that are the most pro-America and like are worried about the history of America, they don't want to put those two and two together and realize that the capitalism is really what is, is making Disney decide to replace their beloved river with cars. Right. That's what I would, I would say.

But no, it's like, Disney hates Benjamin Franklin and all he did for the country, like, Disney didn't give a shit about Benjamin Franklin. That's true. But you are not tying these two decisions together. We're finding scapegoats and this happens everywhere, happens star wars, happens everywhere. Sure. Well, I mean, the stuff to talk about hating America because in a few, you know, in mere days we might elect two people who hate America. Their names are Kamala Harris and Tim Walru. Right.

Did you do everything we can to make sure it doesn't happen? The two biggest America haters might be steering the ship in days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's tense. It's always tense doing these. I know. Elections right around the corner. Of course. But Jason, you don't have to steer us anywhere, but if you want, oh, no, I prefer that were you? Well, no, I was just thinking, let's, we talked about scrims a little.

I don't think, I'm sure I learned this fact at some point and forgot it, but there are more, I guess they're technically scrims throughout the graveyard party, you know, dividing all the ghosts, all the little scenes that are going on, I think to prevent light bleed and also to help the illusion of making it look like the graveyard just goes on forever. Yes. There's like depth, like, message with your depth of field a little bit, your vision.

Yeah. It does lead, and I've said this, I don't know if I've said this on a haunted mansion, but so it does lead to like kind of like squinting to try to make out some of these ghosts. Sure. Some of that is good, but then you see hap-box ghosts, which is a new animatronic, and you go, could they replace all of these with this figure, this type of figure, and would it ruin it? Would all those ghosts being clear ruin it in some level?

Or could you have a couple of close like that and then keep it as is for the rest of them or the farther away ones? I don't think it would bother anybody if there were some bright ghosts. I don't think so, but maybe you want the bright ghosts up front. But then with that distract from the less bright ghosts in the back. You want a crisp blue player. You like one.

Well, I just, you get a little spoiled by how crisp the hap-box ghost is, because it's such a new robot, and it looks like a ghost, but you get so close to him. And then you're led into a room full of non-chrysped ghosts. Yeah, un-chrysped, non-chrysped ghosts is what you're viewing for the rest of the time, and it's fun because it gives you, they're ghostly, but you're like, I bet there's some features on these faces that I would enjoy looking at, their whimsical characters. Or they're not.

The scrims hide that they never made any features. That's true too. The scrim could be hiding the features. A real question that is going to dictate how long we're in the graveyard is, how much do we care like any of these specific graveyard ghosts? Or is it just about the atmosphere and that there are a bunch of them? But are there individual ghosts as we assess the scene that are like, well, that we have to really give some love to?

Well, there's definitely ones that are doing fun stuff, and there's also ones that you just like discover, because there's so many, like the ghosts on a bike and stuff, like things that you go, oh, maybe I didn't notice that for the first 10 years of going. So I don't know that I have a specific favorite one that deserves its own episode, but we can definitely like list some other favorites, different effects.

Because really what it is is they're more effects, or what they're doing versus they're actually like, oh, that character suggests a fun guy. Like the middle pirate who's singing on Pirates of the Caribbean when you get to that barn, that guy is great. That guy deserves maybe his own episode. I don't know your tone, but you thought of it. You would just went on it and you thought middle pirate is its own thing. Well, right.

And because he's the one who if you catch the right part of the song, stop singing the yoho, yoho, and he starts going, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, like one pirate sings this funny little background like warble. And I'm like, that gives him his own little unique thing. So, but I you don't get that from all these ghosts. You can't tell who's singing what necessarily you can't tell, who's like, you can't tell what their faces look like.

And that middle pirate's burned into my brain. I know his face. I wake up thinking about him sometimes. You do. I'm not in a relationship with him. You have a middle pirate. Lindsay, you actually one who pointed to him out that she's like, oh, I like this guy because he's singing. He does that little singing part. Now anyone feel free to say, hey, wait, wait for your turn. Get back in the order.

But when you talk about that crazy musical improv, that is apparently a thing with the opera singers who are towards the end of the graveyard scene that this via an interview with Buddy Baker who put the music together. Now I don't have the name. The last name is Norman, but I didn't cover the first name. But there is the female opera singer who they brought in had like perfectly trained on the melody that she was given and could nail it in this very studio's way.

And then during the recording, Buddy Baker said, this character is supposed to be a nut. So just add lib all over the place. And then, but it was she was kind of resistant to it because she knew it one way, not willing to depart and improvise. But then she ultimately did do this very wild, much like that pirate, which is sort of what people like about this sequence that it's a bunch of crazy nonsense. Yeah. The full name, Lulee Jean Norman.

Okay. Lulee. The piano, Lulee Jean Norman and tenor Bill Reeve. Okay. Now is this good license to just talk for a while about our feelings about the series, the sopranos? Jason, what do you think? Oh, it's been a while. I do think about restarting it recently. Yeah. Yeah, I would like to. I don't know any time, but when I do, when I will have time, I would like to rewatch. Sure. Great. I watched it. Is this some excellent sopranos? I liked it. Great. That's a great guy. Rest in peace.

He's an honor mansion. He was a real mobster. Did you know? Pyomai is one of the hazy horses, maybe you can see. Mm-hmm. Wrestler Tommy Dreamer is his kids are in the sopranos. Is that little kids? Really? Yeah, they're in the car. The Manuel Miranda is in the sopranos as a bellhop. Yeah. We'll our net in the sopranos as well, FBI agent. Very good. Did you see the sopranos? I watched it. It's some I haven't finished. Okay. I know I should. That's a bad thing to admit. That's all right.

I've liked it. I've seen some fish. I'm not mad. This is great. We got a list of names. We got a list of names. This is wonderful. Can I admit this? I feel like we're being set up. I feel like there's something coming. Whoa, what do you mean? Yeah, I feel that about it. The hammer is going to come down. Here, I'm trying to make you guys relax. But at this point, it's boy who cried while you're just so. It's good to be true, I think. Something's happening. I don't know.

I'm trying to think what could be the time to be true. No, it's so good that it is true. I've changed. I've changed. Scott. And I'm allowing it. And let me throw one more in. If you guys want to take any time in this episode to talk about any complaints that you have about the internal messaging system of a healthcare app that you're using, take as much time as you want. 10 minutes, 15 minutes. I want to hear everything that's not functional about it. What's good about it?

I have thoughts about that, but I'll save it for later. Okay. So yeah, look, the healthcare system is broken in this country. I hate to go. I went off on capitalism a couple of minutes ago. Look at this. I come on my goose. And suddenly we're getting, you're carrying down all the pillars of our society. I think you hate this country as much as Tim Walls. There's, I don't know about that. He hates the country all along. You're really scary Evan. And you talk about, he's the one running the long.

I'm saying, I'm making you guys nervous. I'm nervous about this guy. Pretend I'm a football guy. I'm going to eat chili fuck you. I'm on to you. I'm on to you, man. Jason, Jason probably has some gripes with him just about the different like state fair meats he eats. Like in his, if his feelings on that, because you know, he's such a like folksy guy goes to those state fairs and he has like certain types of meat and he has, he's saying he has not come out with his stance on pork rolls.

Yes, he has name. Like there's meat. He's mentioned. I've never heard of that before. And maybe Jason knows. But Governor Walls, did you eat the deep fried ranch in the Minnesota state fair or not? That would be, if we could get you, yeah, maybe to question him before the election, you could do a little sit down with him. Yeah. Well, meat's interview. I think that's an interview they wouldn't have from.

Can I say, sometimes you look at pictures of the graveyard scene and they don't, it doesn't look like it does when you're on the ride live. Like there's, this is just a photo from mice chat and it's like the effect is really cool. It looks kind of almost neon in a way that I, this doesn't look like the mansion when you're on it. I think it's hard to photo. This is a very difficult thing to photograph. Is that even a, is that did somebody take that while writing it or is that a post?

I don't, I don't know. But, but it's almost like it gives it a different vibe. I don't know that I necessarily need the vibe to be more like kind of neon, but you can definitely make out the face is easier. Well, and then if you photograph with the lights on like this photo of two with the, like goofy band members, it's like, oh, they're all kind of baby blue and cream. Right. Because that paint has to show up. Can you show me that photo again? I want to see what it is, baby blue and cream.

I mean sky blue, I guess. That could be, yeah, no, I guess I see what you're saying. That does something, baby blue and cream is just a phrase that seems like it'd be like your album. It does sound like it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think it's a track for instantly sharing baby blue and cream. Yeah, I covered the Neil Young track, baby blue and cream. It's a Neil Young. I was thinking more like a jazz thing, but it's a Neil Young copy kind of song. It's more of a capy thing.

I guess it's more of a capy thing. This guy I really like and maybe I missed his name. Jason helped me out if you know it. He's sort of sitting in the casket and he's got a little cup of tea and he's a little guy. And I don't know. He's just like, he's got kind of like a little grin on his face. And I don't even really know. He just looks almost looks like like a ranken and bass elf or like he looks like the heat miser or the snow miser or whatever. And I really like him. He's got a top hat on.

He looks like a shoot. The guy from Laughin who's in wedding crashers. This is great. It's exactly what I want to be. Last, if last men cast members are being discussed, James Scott is so happy. And if Mike has taken a bunch of time to not talk and look him up, this is a old me would have been so fresh. Thank God he did. Thank God he's gone. What is this name? If I let's all not say anything until the name comes up, he's so great.

And I can't think of his name, but he's a little he's a. He's a great guy. You can't think of the name of a great guy for Laughin. You can't think of the extended cast of wedding crashers. I just you know what? I can never remember who did Piglet's Voice who was on the Bob Newhart show John Fielder. And finally I remember it. And I remembered it so often now that my daughter is watching so much poo. But Henry Gilbert Gibson. Henry Gibson is playing the guy.

Henry Gilbert's the guy who's been on our show. He just talked to him since. But no, Henry Gibson is the guy I'm thinking of. He looks like Henry Gibson to me. It makes me happy. Jane and I just ran it trap. We saw we saw trap. And we'll slow down view what service what streamer did you run it credit on Amazon? Very good. How much of a credit? Uh, how do you speeding through this Jason? Six dollars. Good. Wow. That's a big credit. So I read it on prime.

Uh, we're watching the credit opening credits and the name comes up. Haley Mills. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And she is an older FBI profiler in the movie. And this by the way, we're going to be this is going to be in this tomorrow. And old Scott complaint this this October series is going to be so full of discussion of the months old film trap. That is true. That is true. That's an old me thing. I'm sorry, Jason. I think it's probably out of theaters by this point. So it's reasonable to rent it.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, we were like, is that parent trap Haley Mills? And sure enough, it was. That's her. Yeah. Uh, she's back. She was at D23. She was doing a sing in the songs. Let's get together. Let's get together. Yeah. So she's back. Haley Mills is back. Yeah. This is the kind of thing old Scott would not have stopped to smell the roses. We wouldn't have landed at points. I feel like you're going to kill us by the end of the week. I don't understand.

Here, I'm coming at you with nothing but kind of attack. Like, I'm going to send back us to end this episode. You're acting as if I've wired the building. And I'm going to when I take a convenient bathroom break, that that is when the building will implode. And check off layers of bricks will crush you both. Look, this is more stressful than a lady raven concert that turned out to entirely be a trap. This is like check offs. Yes, this is, I have not trapped you. This is no trap.

I've tried to say this joke three times already. You already think it's a trap. And people are going to be hearing me, I'm going to do it again. It's like check offs, niceness or something. It's like, but niceness is like lingering and like, when is it going to, uh, uh, nor check offs, it doesn't really make sense. It's not a really good joke. I shouldn't have said it. I went edit it out. This is like this could be like Shakespeare Shakespeare Bob. I was going to say Shakespeare Bob.

There's this name, famous Simpson's character. Side show Bob. When he's nice and the one with the side show, Cecil. Yeah. Uh, there's actually is nice. There'll be a shoot. Yeah. Well, we'll see. We'll see Jason. Just stay on your toes, Jason. For once, I'm not trying to kill you. Stay. Stay on your toes. Keep your eyes open. Get off your tip. Kick up your feet. Don't even worry about what your little toes are doing. All right. It's okay.

And this is how great does it feel because at this pace, I don't think there's, I'd be shocked if we got done with the great. It felt right, which, yeah. I don't think we've talked about like two things that watch about my little guy. It's all about my little guy. We talked about. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well, what are we talking about? Jason, you got any, oh, you got a, uh, uh, character? Well, there's cats and owls in the graveyard.

Yes. I know he's a kind of adds to the sonic symphony, uh, going around. So the meows and stuff. The meows and the hoots. Yeah. Now, are those ghost cats and ghost owls or are those living cats and living owls? That's a good question. I, I think they're living. I think they're living as well. The picture is that I'm looking at. They seem to be lit, which is like regular lighting. Right. I'm looking up. I think it was just graveyard cats.

Yeah, I think we're, I think we're dealing with just regular cats. Right. Because they have the pet cemetery in the queue, but I think those animals are alive. Mm-hmm. Yes. So that's good. Uh-uh. There's a lot of tea drinking happening in the graveyard. With a floating teapot. Yes. There's a lot of tea drinking. I mean, some, I think like these characters are, are drinking more cocktails. There's, there's characters at a little table here.

Um, these are more like circular, like almost like a, a glass. You would have the Carthay man, Hatton in. Um-hmm. You know what they, you know what they kind of look like are glow-teenies. They do look alike glow-teenies. It's like a drink I would have at the Tron, electronic festival, whatever it's called, not a festival, but it should be a festival. It should be a touring festival. It should be yearly. You should replace Coachella.

But yeah, a lot of these guys are all having, uh, uh, like spots of tea. Mm-hmm. And this part, this is like a bigger cup here. So it's like, uh, people are having different types of parties in the graveyard. Everyone's not having a sort of unified party. Everyone's having their own little gatherings. Sure. And it leads to this one sort of grim-grining ghost sequence. Yeah. But all, it's like, appropriately, um, you say that because it's all like the music track. It all kind of ties together.

There's like the one based track of grim-grining ghosts. And there's all the weird instruments, um, uh, just as there are. Like, yeah, there's, there's the music. There's the instrumental and then there's the singing bus. Slow down, slow down, we're not at the bus. It's about to sign. I mean, I, uh, old Scott might say the singing bus would be an interesting thing to talk about this year, but no pressure. We'll get there. We'll get there. We'll get there. Slow down. You ain't racing.

You ain't racing. Yeah. Yeah. I think the chase-stops, not opposed to going there. It's up to Jay. It's Jay's. It's true. Okay. Well, what would you like to talk about before we discuss the same bus? Well, uh, you ain't racing yet. Reminds me. I hope with the new cars coming next to Haunted Mansion. I hope you get a meter far. I hope you can hear a meter far from the Haunted Mansion line. That's all I'll say. I'm doing a sing-add atmosphere.

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. That is on topic because the proposal right now is moving cars to rivers of America. Well, I mean, again, I still can't wait to talk about that. Well, I mean, it's right on the beach. I mean, we are keeping my listeners in all this time. We have never discussed the Disney World Haunted Mansion. Right. It's not. It's related. It's related. There's an authentic comment here and there. There's an authentic comment here. We make authentic comments once in a while.

Once in a while. But it hasn't been a fully dedicated Disney World Haunted Mansion yet. And which has different things, the Escher Room and various different things. And I don't know what are you turning into. I don't know. And we have a lot to talk about because they just threw the hap-box goes in there. Sort of willing. Oh, that's happened now. Yeah, he's just hanging out in one of the early rooms.

But yes, there's going to be cars racing in front of the Haunted Mansion, which I guess they'll try to- We say this, but do we know? Like, we're all acting as if Disney World Haunted Mansion. Sure. We don't know how to hide it. We don't know how to hide it. We don't know how to hide. But it does feel like you got to- Because that's a point of view I've seen is just like, you know, loud, exhaust pumping cars ruining the Haunted Mansion.

I hope that you're a professional Disney blogger or whatever. You think they're not going to do anything to make this a pleasant- I would think so. I would not like to think so. The car's a pump exhaust either. Should we make, I mean, we could make bets. Because we love to bet now. We can make bets. Will you be able to hear- I want to say made or farting, but maybe we expand it. Will you be able to hear any of the cars from the queue of the Haunted Mansion in Florida? Should we bet?

You think- I think they will try to soften it, but I think you'll hear people screaming, which actually might fit for Haunted Mansion. Okay. So, you think about it, like you said earlier, like they're not making the connection that is capitalism. Like a big fast car next to a dilapidated old building is very American. Will you mean like, it's actually more American if there's cars next to one- If there's like big nasty cars like Zooming By, the regal old like mansion next to the colonial street.

Actually, if they could pump, like if they could use gasoline and they could make the whole thing stink. You want them to make it like autopia from the 1950s? Yeah, like a freeway built next to like a historical landmark. I see you're saying. So, that one thing is like a protected landmark, but because the like ten feet over isn't America will throw cars there. Yeah. And we're maybe like, maybe it's time to flip, you know, Liberty Square. Like maybe it's time to make it low Vegas, you know.

Maybe it's time to put up some neon stuff. Plants and machines in it? Oh yeah. And someone think this world is missing. Some progressive slots. Here's what I, okay, I will bet $5 that you will be able to hear some car noises from some of the room around in the distance. I don't know if they'll be far. So I hope they are, but I at least zooms. And then I believe in within 25 years there will be a slot machine on the grounds of Disney World. So this is this one we got to hold on to.

This will be a long time. Yeah, but I do believe 25 years, which is when probably we will make it to the Disney World haunted mansion and how it's different. I'm going to be a full Benjamin button maybe at that point. What? I age back. Is this the reveal that you age backwards? How do you know that you're going to place our finger on like wise Jason? And somehow he's the one who knows about like what songs from the last three years are, but also he's from the 1800s.

That's why you're a bit, you've been putting the whole time. Benjamin butting. Yeah. That's just a little nickname. Yeah. That's why I'm the ear to fart. It feels homey to me. Benjamin, Collin Benjamin butt from now on, folks, that's what he'd like to be referred to now that he's revealed it here. This is now what I'm, it's not like I look talking about ghosts. I haven't fully exercised old Scott, you know, he's in the somewhere.

And I just have to tell you that he's, I am receiving these vibrations reminding me that talking about the singing bus might be fun this year. But again, I can, I'm, it's on me to suppress those. Right. I can push those down. We do not have to listen to those down. That's a good thing. That asshole. Yeah. Old Scott, I don't, I have to agree with you because there's a lot of good names to be said. Wow. Yeah, please. Yeah, give us the good names. Okay. Well, we're talking about the singing bus.

I haven't talked about the ghost styling. Oh, yeah, please. I always forget this there, but the executioner and his victim. Oh, yeah. That's a pretty good visual gag. Okay. So isn't that after the singing bus? We really, I throw it to you guys and rethold the order situation. I thought it was you who was who were adherent to the moving through it in order scenario. And now it's all Willie Nilly now that you're in charge. It's a cocktail party.

Remember you're looking around like this might be the most is this the busiest in a good way. I guess some of the big pirates scenes. I guess so. Yeah. That you're, you're very much looking around. All the presidents, they're all blinking and coughing. This is shit. Yeah. They are coughing. They're all ill. I wish they all coughed in a manner appropriate to the ailments of their time. It beat. Now that would plus up that if you could watch them all die the way what they actually died.

It'd be dark for some of them, but the one getting that cherries eating the too many cherries and getting beef bowl and shoved up his butt. Who died of cherries? One of them. What is the president died of cherries? Like he ate too many cherries or he was president. He didn't eat cherries and died. Is that right? There is a president. There's a thing. I think one of the presidents who was shot got a bunch of liquor and bullion shoved up his butt.

Exactly. Zachary Taylor, what I'm reading is, let me find cherries. And for Fourth of July, it was a big outdoor celebration and he was very tired. Not entirely drank iced water and consumed large quantities of cherries and other fruits. He suffered severe stomach pains for the next five days. This is very much like Jason and the bananas. This is why it's good that Jason's careful with the bananas because he could die in five days. Jason is a big supporter of ice water in general.

He did just learn that. Yes. Lemon and ice water. Diagnosed to suffering from cholera morbis by his physicians, Taylor ate slivers of ice for relief until his body began rejecting fluids. He said, I have always done my duty. I am ready to die. My God. It's kind of out of nowhere. There you go. There was a president cherries death. But I think that's different than beef bullion being shoved up your butt. Well, if you're shot, what are they going to do?

There's been so much talk of hall of presidents going away. Instead, could they just add each president holding a bloody rag and they hold it up and cough a couple of times during the show? Because that would plus it up and give it a real reason. They all look at it and look stricken. Can I say something about the band? I know we're going, we're jumping all around. And I will say we kind of talked about the band last year. That's an old Scott thing. He's still in me. And I don't know.

Maybe I'm forgetting if we actually address this. What's funny to me about the band is the band looks like they're made up of different time periods. They're not all uniform. So they maybe all didn't die at the same time. They didn't know each other when they were living. It looks like there's one guy from the Civil War playing, I think, drums. Then there's just a guy in his pajamas playing that long horn. I really like the idea that all these guys came together to form a band in the afterlife.

Yeah. No DJs though. There's nobody who's died recently. That would be a very good addition. They should. Yeah, this would be a good way to do. Yeah, just to keep mod. He doesn't have to do much, but you throw a little bit of scratching in there. Right. Because assuredly, there's, I don't know for a fact, but I bet hundreds of DJs die every year. Let's paint tribute. Let's look at the census. Let's look at and see what the greatest.

So do you want to ghost with like a ghostly MacBook Pro in front of them? In the back. Yeah. And I guess it maybe would ruin the flow to like all of a sudden change it, like change this. Grimgrid and Ghost Sunk, like dubstep, but it would be what that DJ might do. Or I guess you could even just add in a few scratches like a Limpisket track. Well, yeah, you just add some random ones here and there because they had so many tracks and they were like cherry picking.

Yeah. Exactly. Careful. Careful, Zachary. They're cherry picking what to use and then recording tracks and reverse and then flipping them so they were correct, but sounded a little off, you know, right? We should not, they should not put in the ghost of any of the members of LMFAO who we as we have talked about, not dead as Jason. And not dead. Yeah. Yeah. If we, he said not dead. Yeah, but I guess that is technically true. We all have to go at a certain point. So. Sinking bus. Sinking bus.

Oh, sorry. He's in me. I have to shove him down. Sinking bus. Shit. It's not current, Scott. It's that old Scott might come back and take over the episode. Oh, no. Get down there. No, guys, please talk about something that has nothing to do with the Honda Mansion fast. Well, you know, at the very last LMFAO show, they both said, I've done my duty and I'm ready to die. You've now switched. Yeah. Now you're, now your theory is that they have both died. Well, they said that in unison and was crazy.

They can't find the video online. It's illegal. We were sexy and we knew it. We did. I think somebody online figured out what you were confusing it with, though, right? Well, isn't it somebody from Migos died? The somebody from the, I don't know. I know. I remember someone from Migos died. And there was like an uncle connection in that. Like there is an LMFAO. It's an uncle nephew band. Yeah. The rare uncle nephew.

Well, that's funny that you're not just taking this and going, yes, that's what I meant. I forgot about the uncle. I think he still convinced that somebody in it. I think he does not want him to be wrong. He's like still, he's already declared both of them dead. It's there's now that it's two. The numbers are climbing. He's going to declare that three of them are dead and they're not even three members. Trying to get something a little more hip and current and the one at mansion.

Mike was trying to get the Jared Lato ghost in there and now they're docking his pay on this drawn movie. So an mansion did so poorly. Yes. So you were, wait, we were going to read names. But do you want to, you're holding off on the names? Is that what you're doing? Oh, I mean, I, I think we covered the party. Oh, I see. We're saying, I think we could get to the bus. I have stuff on the bus. Oh my God. All right. Wow. We're going to talk about the singing bus. Okay. You know what? Hold on.

Hold on. I want to make a point in general. I'm going to get in the engine. Oh, fuck. And I've seen a lot of people. Be careful. I know I'm trying. I'm trying to get through it. And such, this is to me, this is the quintessential scene, the graveyard scene, the pirate setting, the town on fire. This is the stuff you think about when it's like foundational Disney ride stuff.

And this is what they don't want to do as much anymore because it's all IP stuff and it's all like single scenes and they point you in a direction of some action happening versus just floating you into the room full of or floating you have floating both ways. Works. Into a bunch of robots. And you pick where you're looking. That's what you're going to decide what you want to see.

And I feel like we're not getting as much of that anymore and it's really hard, especially when it's movie stuff because they just want to show you the famous scene from X whatever movie their ride is based on. So I, I mourn the loss of sort of these party scenes because I feel like this is such an important thing.

When I think it's, yeah, I think it's good to reflect and focus on what, what ambiently is bad today instead of talking about the thing we like that is in the graveyard scene that we could be talking about at any second. Uh-huh. And but I think it's good what you're doing. Thank you. I don't know that I'm feeling your sympathetic vibrations correctly. I'm feeling vibration. You are not the words I said. I did hear the words, but I don't know that I felt them.

I don't know that I felt the sympathetic vibration. Yeah. Thank you. That was the negative, negative feelings that you have out before we can say the five funny names of the singing bus. Okay. All right. Jason, you want to say the names of the, the singing ones? Uh, sure. Well, Scott, you're so excited. I feel like you should say, do you want to say that the bus names are the actor names? Uh, let's, let's split them. Now, let's split them. Yeah. I don't know. Do we know the order?

I have it, but I don't actually know if it's a left to right order. I mean, I know which one is the bread. The broken one. Yeah. But yeah, throw me whatever. Why don't you say these names and I'll say the actor? Okay. Okay. I'm going from left. Uh, Rolo Rumkin. Yeah. That's Vern Row. Great. Uncle Theodore. That's the great, Thurl Ravens, of course. Yeah. Cousin Al. I'm seeing it as cousin Algaron. Algaron? Yeah. Flour for Algaron, of course. That's name from Chuck Schrader.

Uh, uh, Ned Nub. Ned Nub, Jay Meyer. And let's get this out of the way. Ned Nub is not nine Nub. Right. From Star Wars. No, no, no. How do you say if it's N-U-N-B? Nine Nub is always what I said, but I don't know. I actually was calling him Nian Nub for years and years and I've heard nine recently. So the real Ned Nub is a real precursor to that. Yes, for sure. And finally, Phineas Pock. Again, now I'm seeing it as a Phineas P-Pock. I'm getting a middle initial in there.

This is why it's good that we consulted several different websites. We're going back and forth. Yeah, Dad, uh, Jay Meyer. I said that, but sure. Okay. That's an old Scott thing. Why didn't I? Oh, God. I'm still getting used to it. I'm still getting used to that. I get the golden war shoes. Old Scott would also say he didn't even say the name of Phineas P-Pock, which is Bob Ebrite, but that's again, that's a, I'm still you know, it's like I'm still breaking in these shoes.

We're doing new where we're, you know, we're sharing the, we're doing it on our feet. We're finding it live. Finding it live. Yeah, we're doing it live. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, wait, you were saying Jay Meyer is what now? He was an Irish tenor. Hmm. Uh, saying, uh, like you would like to use it. Golden war shoes. Oh, yeah. Tor alo alo. Uh, uh, no, let's, hey, no, all right. So we just jump right into those names, but let's say a couple things bigger picture about the singing busts.

One is, and I don't think I realized until last year when I did this research foolishly, that you are looking at the faces of who is singing the song. Yes. That these were not actors hired later to pantomime. And I remember putting that together as I became a fan of Thurl Ravenscroft, the rich baritone voice who is throughout all these rides that we love. And I, once I clocked what he looks like, I'm like, oh, that's him. That is him on the bus singing. So I wonder if that's true of all of them.

And in fact, it is. They think they, I don't know if this was coordinated or if they recorded the vocals and then realized, hey, these are five we're looking guys. They all kind of look like ghosts. Yeah. Why go higher five other people? Let's get, but it's, but that gets you into a different place than Madame Leota, a character from 20, 21 or so. Yeah. On this series, who that is a, that is one face and then a different voice dubbing.

Correct. Yes. So yeah, you are looking at the faces of these, these odd singers. Right. That is who's doing it. And the second fact that that, of course, answers. And I think if you're listening to the show, you know, this one's not true, but this is very urban legend that not one of these five men is Walt Disney. Yeah. I know. I think that's what people believe for many years that he snuck in there.

As a kid, I thought it was, because I think Thurl specifically, because he's got the mustache, that's who people think it is. And that's who I always is up until I'm sure my early 20s or later, I don't know, I was too old to learn. I needed to know that before, but it seems like it just looks like an old man. Yeah. But we're all still improving and bettering ourselves. Yeah. Turning new leaders. So I'm admitting, I'm comfortable now admitting that that I did.

That age 29 perhaps, or even in your 30s. Wow. Too old to learn that Thurl was not Walt Disney, but yes, it would make it, it feels very, I don't know, it felt right. It felt so right. So I understand why so many thousands and millions of people think that. Thurl, I used to mistakenly think that was the ghost host. That's Paul Freeze. Paul Freeze. Yeah. Yeah. Thurl's other, but then I did it again with Thurl. This is, that's a fact we haven't said since 2020. Yeah, yeah. Maybe 2019 even.

So I can't believe. Yeah. Thurl's other big career notes Tony Vittiger. Of course, of course. Yeah. And sings the, you're a mean one, Mr. Grinch. Again, doesn't narrate. I'm not, old Scott, I'm sorry, new Scott is not going to allow you to say we've discussed all of this many times. But not on my watch. But no, this is a big thing. Sorry. Sorry, that was mean of new Scott.

This is a me thing I used to think Thurl was the singer in the narrator, but the narrator of the Grinchies Bella Lagosie, right? Of course, Carlisle. Of course, Carlos. Of course, Carlos Carlisle. Of course, Carlos inspiration for Bobby Boris Pica, do we discuss the monster mash episode. Yes, we've been threatening Thurl episode in general for years and we should, we should do it. I don't think this one's a thread.

There's episodes that are certain, you know, at J. Leno acting career might be a thread. Yeah, J. Leno's wrestling career, which we still haven't read it to. That one's a thread, sure. But through Ravenscroft, I think we'll be a joy because this is a wonderful man, a man of faith, I think a big presence in like, you know, like Orange County churches. I think that's where he said, I think he started singing in churches and then got all career out of it because the voice was so unusual.

And this quality that like nobody had, I don't know who, you know, you hear that like, or this actor, this current actor has taken over all the Paul Freeze parts or whatever. I don't know who's doing any of these Thurl. So I mean, clearly, there's people doing Tony the Tiger today. But you know, there's a, I just don't think they make them like that. I don't think voices can get as deep as that anymore. It does feel like that. Like that guy from Boyz to Men.

They're never after we record any of this. They gotta get that guy. There is something, yes, that feels very unique to like the generation of like voice actors. A true opera singer also. That's in my notes. Yeah, that'll help. But yes, Thurl. And their appearance too. Doesn't it? Now, if you find, I don't think this is true. If you found out that all five of these guys were Walt's best drinking buddies and that when they filmed this, all of them were 35 years old, I would believe it.

The apocryphal story I heard about is that they kissed all these guys for singing. And then like they were emoting so much when they were singing. They're like, just film them too. And that's how it ended up. Of course, they could only emote with like their mouths and eyes because they were in such intense like, okay, don't move. They put them in like a breeze. Right. So they captured them correctly. So it would match the, you know, projection correctly.

It's really, it's really creepy in general. I think that adds to the creepiness that they had to just keep the heads still. Yeah. The Phantom Five. I don't know if we officially said that there was discussion last year of whether this is the Phantom Five or the other band is the Phantom Five. No, I think it's the game where, or you should see, I saw it with the other. I don't know.

It's where I get mad where old Scott would get mad about the hazy half thought out with mythology in which everyone is named Phineas or something. But new Scott recognizes this is great. It's figured out wonderfully and it was part of the design that nobody knows which one is the Phantom Five. Oh, yeah. But the, I think the effect is fantastic. I think it's like, I think it's great that like, it's not perfect.

If these were part, because now we know, obviously, they can projection map in this precision way and they do so much of this in the parks now. But I like that it doesn't feel like these buss are perfect to the centimeter exactly the faces and noses and cheeks to these guys. And I think it adds to sort of an eerie feeling whenever you say it. That was going to be my question. Do you, you want to keep the effect as is or would you, would you sign off on an upgrade for these?

Because it looks, yeah, it looks weird and I don't, it's not at all like the weird bride at this point with the projection face. It doesn't stick out like that where it's like tired. And it does, I feel like, oh yeah, you could really nail this now. I think don't nail it. I think it's, yeah, and also you'd never want to take away the, the real problem would be in this, I don't think they would do this, but you don't want them to ever make it modern people. There's something about this.

Even with digital projection, which at some point it was updated, you can just feel that these were just odd, interesting, craggy face guys. Yeah, filmed in the 1960s on 60s film and I'm glad that retained in the digital plus up. I wouldn't, other than just maintaining visibility and brightness, I don't want anything to happen to these buss. Right. Here, maybe I save this for the end. Hmm, I'll save it for the end actually.

Okay. But I was, yeah, looking at like these and going, yeah, I wonder would it, would it take it away because like it's, it's interesting when we talk about upgrading any of these old rides because they've upgraded them, you know, in little ways over the years. But sometimes you're thinking, well, when you see a Hapbox ghost, you go, oh, wow, they could really plus this thing up in a crazy new way. But if it was all Hapbox ghost level stuff, would some of the magic be gone?

Would it, would it feel weird? And I was like, I kind of was like, oh, maybe these buss could be upgraded and that would be cool and you could do like some effects with it. But I don't know, will it, what do you want them to do? Um, I guess they could like disappear and go different places. I don't know, like you could, I don't know, like you could do Hapbox ghost type effects with them. I don't know. But I don't want any of them to not be visible to me in that part.

I want to see all five of these weird faces. You could have them switch faces. You could have, I guess so. Like that might be interesting. I don't know. But would some of the modern stuff, would it, would it not age well and would it get rid of some of the magic? I mean, I think the different errors of technology throughout the mansion in addition to the 100 or 200 year old magician techniques. Yeah. I think it all kind of adds to the weirdness. It does, but some things age worse than others.

That's true. The ride effect aged worse. I'm confident that Hapbox ghosts will look great in 20 years. I could be wrong, but I think that will look good. Yeah, I think it's not married to the technology of the era too much. Right. Some of that, the stuff that came out of pirates was, I'd say. Right. Well, the other thought I'm having, I'm going to save till the end. Okay. Got it. So, I want to put you guys on your heels now. Are you your toes? Keep on your toes.

He's going to sto in whatever you say. It might be so controversial. I just got out. It is going to be a little controversial. I just keep rocking back and forth between my heels and toes and I'm tired. Well, sorry, I'm sorry, but that's... You're getting your steps in while you're still. I am getting my steps in. Who's going to get your skater me? I'm working. I got lots of stretches I'm doing these days.

Now, we just named the people who, you know, the first set of actors who played the part of the singing busts. But we have to acknowledge who else has played these five roles. And I'm talking about when the singing busts do a cameo in the fairly recent film Muppet Haunted Mansion. There is an appearance from the singing busts and they pulled out all the stops. For these iconic parts, they got the five biggest stars in Hollywood who all fit together as naturally as the rat pack.

They are all thick as thieves. They make so much sense together and I'll kind of do this with a leisurely pace so that the listener can shout them out with me in your car on a walker wherever you are. Henry Gibson. Of course. No, the... All right, the five who are the Muppet Haunted Mansion singing busts. I know it's obvious, but here we go. Sky Jackson from the Disney Channel show Jesse. Right. Canadian Video Game Journalist Jeff Keely.

Pat Say Jack. Dino Machado from one day at a time and Craig Robinson. Phew. Okay. You know, it just had to be said. That's just fan service. I mean, I know we all... Yeah. We all know that. We recognized him as soon as we saw him and they make some... I couldn't believe they could be in the same room with each other anymore. Well, it finally proves they aren't all the same person, you know. So Michael Janet Jackson thing. Like, can there really be two stars as big and electric as that? Why no?

That Say Jack is different than Jeff Keely. The natural... This is the most natural set of first people offered. Clearly, if you... I've never seen more of a group of first offers in my life. And I'm so glad we have this Say Jack now that he's stepped down. Right. Right. So all we... You know, we used to have him every day and now we only have him on Halloween. I think he's acting in a play. That's not permanent. That Say Jack is acting in a play. I could be crazy, but I feel like I saw him...

Pat Say Jack theater plays. Google that. So he's no longer Pat Say Jack. He's plays, Say Jack. New Scott, change Scott. That brought a tear to his eye. It was so wonderful and so perfect. Oh, and tear looks like a drop of blood. Thank you, first of all. Oh, right, man. I'm still grappling with it. There are ghosts inside me. They are scrunching my organs and making me bleed in surprising ways. It appears that he is in something... Wait, what the hell? He's at the play is a play of Colombo.

This is a... Is it a real... Pat Say Jack. I knew who I was. Just retired boy. Well, it wasn't said in the title. Is he play Colombo or is he the killer? No, no, no, no. No, I believe he is the... I think he's the killer. Wow. The play is... What a... You know, the layers unveiling themselves like a Colombo mystery. This is happening in Hawaii. It is called prescription murder with Pat Say Jack and Joe Moore.

The original Colombo mystery thriller by the William Lincoln Richard Loneson, The Creators of the Show. This is a live-on-stage Colombo in Hawaii. And whoever Joe Moore is, his long, Pat Say Jack's long-time buddy is Colombo. So you can... It says, buy ticket. Just one. I'm gonna... I'm gonna want to bring my whole family to this. Don't tell me I can only buy one. Yeah. Oh, well, you know what? This is gonna be applicable even way after this comes out. Buy these now.

This is happening in summer 2025. You can right now buy a ticket to go to Hawaii. Well, that's a separate ticket. Yeah. You can go to Hawaii and see Pat Say Jack play the Colombo murderer at 2 p.m. on a Saturday in August. Wow. Uh, prescription murder is the pilot. It was the first Colombo. So I think it's an adaptation of that. Do you know who is... Yeah, which actor is at the Ispai actor who I can't remember? Do you know the murder was in that? Gene Berry, Catherine Justice.

It's the one where Colombo looks very young because Peter... I just read this yesterday. He was young. He was 39 filming the pilot. And when he filmed the final one of that first one at Colombo, he was not yet 50. Wow. Wow. I mean, next year, Jason, in a way, I don't know, two of us bleep that. Two of us will be older than Colombo when he started. Wow. That's wild. On the topic of the merger of longtime television personalities in theater, there's something that I want to head towards.

But in order to do that, I think we have to talk a little bit about the song itself, Grinning Ghosts. Yeah. Because if we're talking singing bus, you know, this is final. It's not until this part of the attraction corrects that we hear the lyrics of the song Grinning Ghosts. We've heard obviously instrumental themes the whole time for many years as we've been talking. Slow, yes. Now slower versions. Yes. Sturgy versions.

And then we even, last year, we talked about our kind of like Hop and Grit of your Jamber members. Right. But now we are two delirics. First of all, general feelings about the song and the song with... I mean, it feels like we must have sort of talked about it before. And there's probably some broader conversation of Best Theme Park original songs ever. But do we put this in the top five? Do we put it in the top two? How do we feel about Grinning Ghosts? Yeah. I think top five for sure.

Yeah. For sure. Yeah. This and... It's hard because like, stuff like Teaky Room, I really enjoy a lot of that music. But it's like, is that even... Is that penetrated the culture like Grinning Ghosts says? I don't think so. So it's like, I have to kind of also give it credit for probably being... Like well known amongst... Amongst a regular folk. People that don't go to the parks all the time. Sure. One in a while maybe. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Do we do lyrics jump out in anyone?

Is there a part that you like? Is there a turn of phrase? Because I always liked it, we'd certainly talked several times about the creepy performance by the very wet Maleficent from the Disney Sing Along tape, which is at the time the best way to experience the song outside of being on the ride itself. And with the lyrics on screen and the... I forget if it was a bouncing pumpkin that let you follow along with the lyrics, I liked it as a like...

You know, little snooty like to learn kid because I'm like, these are words I do not know. Oh yeah. These are big old words and I want to know what they mean. And they have to get real clever with the... Theorialize and that's all of a vocabulary word. Right. But I had to learn just because I like theme parks and I'm nine years old. Yeah. It's a... It does make you... It's like watching Star Trek when I was younger. And I would just like... they would say instead of like...

To make a human they would say pro-create. And I was like, ooh, and I remember I used the word pro-create in my like sixth grade and recess once. And I was like, oh look who's Mr. Smarty pants. You learned this word from Star Trek. And you still call it today. Pro-creation. Yeah. That's the only reason you would participate in the act, which makes you very uncomfortable. I participated in pro-creation. Mm-hmm. That leaves the entire thing. You start calling it sex and there's a Tajri system.

So when you're doing it to have a daughter and then close up shop. Clinical, yes. Clinical and it takes all the grotesqueness out of it. It just it feels so functional. Yeah. And that's what it should be. Mm-hmm. Sexual stuff should be functional. You got it done. And hopefully there weren't so many tries that you had to participate and grow sex more than you wanted to. Right. I've done it once to make a kid. And then the other urges, I just do a little prayer and those go away. That's the hell.

Okay, then, away. It'll prayer sing like a fun funky song like God Bless America or my country song. A funky song? A funky song. Yeah, or my country, Tizathi. Oh, give it up for America. Those are funky, I suppose. Yeah. Anything that's not the star's tangled banner is a little funky. A little too. Well, it lets people kind of improvise and have a little too much fun. Yeah. Those songs keep you on track. The song I like a lot because of like the call and response.

Like there's like different voices in the song. So you'll get like, like it's up and down. And like that always feels like a fun high highs low lows. Yeah. The Greek and the Tomb Stats like it's one of the most most iconic, thorough voiceovers. Yes. And it feels, I think that element also adds to the party feeling because even if you're not thinking about it consciously, there are so many like voices popping in and out that it feels like, oh, wow, there's like, there's so many variations.

So I think that's helping give you the party feel is the way they recorded that. Very different personalities of ghosts. You feel just within the ones who were who were singing. There's like, it's like almost like queen backup vocals or something where that's true. And with kind of like weird effects on them and echoes and what at wow. Yeah. It is kind of a, maybe there's no Bohemian rhapsody without. Stop being known. Like, stuff for somebody to love or like.

It is similar in the like, oh, there's like kind of interesting background singers or little parts that are different from the main vocal. I kind of, you know, I will never, now I will like think of queen the next time I go on this. You're not incorrect. Yeah, yeah. So think of queen when you're on this. It's kind of the original queen. Yeah. And if Disney hadn't fully sold the queen catalog, there would be a chance they would put queen on the ride just because it's an IP they own.

It's not going to happen. It's kind of a good idea to do like a live, like just to experiment to do like a live wizard of Oz Pink Floyd kind of situation. The Bohemian rhapsody take over of. Oh wow. Let's see if you sync up to Bohemian rhapsody. Right. And maybe you'd have to do some other. You have to put in like some of the intro or the flash Gordon. Oh yeah. You would cover some of the early part. You could score each room with different queen.

But I imagine you its Bohemian rhapsody in the year. I mean this is a good, like a full like rock and roller coaster that is part dark ride that goes along with the famous song like Bohemian rhapsody would be actually pretty cool. I mean we obviously got it with Nights and White sat and yeah that song we can sing every word of. Don't even know. Yeah. Even I won't make you guys do it in prom too. Nights and White sat in. Right.

But it's almost, did they do, did the dark park have a Bohemian rhapsody firework show? Yeah. But yeah, some song that Disney owns that's like a top 10 rock radio hit that everybody knows potentially could be cool. I don't know if that'll happen but it is an interesting idea. Well you know they're clamor they're gonna str- you know if Epic universe is a big success Disney is gonna strike back and get an exclusive deal with the weekend.

They're gonna steal the weekend from his universal associate. Right. Right. And turn and what's up for grabs. Hey you know what? Songwiz or the Rhyde-wise. You know you turn living with the land into blinding lights the right. Okay yeah. Starboy. Look at that B. All right. The rest of the space mountain. Space mountain yes Starboy. That would be good actually.

And then take all of those, take those the theaters where they don't do much of anything anymore the movie theaters and just play episodes of the idol. Okay. Don't be a crowd please. Yeah yeah. A couple of edits here and there I suppose but yeah. Check IDs at the door. For time right. Yeah. For time yeah. Yeah yeah. Just to get audiences in and out. In terms of Grimgren ghost lyrics. I always loved spooks come out for a swinging wake.

Yeah. Because I knew what swinging like when I was a kid I think I learned what a wake was and then later on like I heard that Lee Rick in one at mansion and I'm like oh. Because they're all dead. Good sir. Yeah. They're deceased and they're having a party. I thought you were heading towards that you like the use of swinging because I thought that an area you've always been interested in. Oh well just academically. Again it's a studio.

It's more about the way people intermingle logically you know. Thought experiment more interesting how people do that. It's a thought you know. Thought exercibe creepy creeps with the early eyes. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's two there are a little race twice the inspiration there that's good. These are wonderfully like you know dense lyrics but don't feel over done.

I think that maybe the funniest thing about the lyrics to me is that now that you know we in talking about the narrative of the ride for six years ago we probably last discussed the notion of seg weighing from dark and spooky to fun and funny.

Yeah. And this the lyrics are clearly where they are getting you can feel a note given at some point of like you got to represent both because here is where we get these kind of bet hedging lyrics about that you know it's silly spooks and it's they pretend to terrorize. Right right. Yes. They're a first pass which was which went more all in on the on the terrorizing. Yeah because the pirates they murder you and terror.

Pirates are doing the bad things on the pirates but this one it feels like they're they're making sure you know these ghosts are not going to hurt you. But there's no agreement with you and the pirates. They may hurt you. So that is a difference between the two obviously the ghosts like this could be anyone for many walk away pirates have you know dedicated themselves to a certain lifestyle. So I do think that I guess that there is a difference in just the clientele of the ride.

But one of them might really hurt you by busing out of guitar and doing some covers with Jeff Beck. That's the biggest threat about one of them could hurt you. He's played with so many people I just got recommended like him and Gene Simmons out of makeup doing what a rock and roll night or something. Gene is trying to get him to sing with him and he keeps like not paying attention. I don't know where they are. I don't know how old this video is.

America's ancient rock stars are trying the best they can to rehabilitate Johnny Depp. I know they are all of them. All of them. Yes. All of them. Every single one. I've seen him with every old guy over a certain like 65 or something. They're all hanging out and they're doing their best. They're doing their best to get him back. But yeah, this is a fun party. I almost wish that the ride vehicle would kind of like bump up and down.

Like I want it to like have like I guess like a low rider or the car. Okay. Because it's such a little jaunty little song and I'm like I want to kind of I bop naturally I feel like to it. Okay. I don't know if you guys bop naturally when you're hearing grim grinning goes. When you flissor can't see this but can you put his bopping to you? Like a little like this like I'm bopping up and down.

Okay. A little bit like it makes you wonder if they're like a newer version you could like kind of the vehicle boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom like that really just makes you want to bop yeah. Makes you want to bop. So you have to you don't want to provide your own bopping. You want some of the vehicle to be doing the bopping for you. Right. And as you know, I like to I like a ride vehicle to fuck me up a little bit.

And this is just still too smooth maybe. And I want to want it to go way slower but also fuck you up. Yeah. Well then this I I don't really want it to jostle me like transformers or anything. I just you know if it could dance if the ride vehicle could dance a little bit because it's really you want to have a swinging wake when you hear this song.

And pirates is a very much all you know it's a fun song to sing but it does not make you want to move like grim grinning goes grim grinning goes makes you want to move. It's jaunty it fits with the more whims of cold mark day this. Kind of second half of the ride. Yeah. Yes. So so I guess that's a plus up. I want to I want to drive you to go to dance a little bit. Okay. So no it's beginning beginning of the ride move so slowly you're aren't even sure that you're moving.

Yeah. By the by the end up and down. Up a little writer. Yeah. If you're made it's get you close to your head hitting the top of the thing. Yeah. Now they've done things where like you could like there was like you could eat dinner in one of the rooms you pay like a grand or something. I really want the ride vehicles to stop here and you can get out and dance.

You are jealous of those teenagers causing a rough well I'm jealous of that well no I'm not jealous of their like desecration of the room but with I was a teenager in the 90s I would have gotten out and just danced. They would have to pull me away because I was like skinking or something like a scot like a scot concert. And I'm going to town like that extra mighty mighty boston.

Now I've been like the you know boston's guy in this bumping right do you foresee them installing a totally new ride system or are they retro fitting. Uh that's good question. I think you could you install a seat that bumps up and down a little just a seat.

Although your head hit then because it like it's too elevated probably I think I'll get I'll get Bob Gurrenal line and I think Bob could figure it out Bob figured everything else out and Walt would tell him oh here's what we need here's what you got to do and he would just figure it out because he's an engineer and he knows what he's doing so I'll say Bob make these make these seats dance.

Well what I would do if I were you would say we say because he's not I don't know if he's going to listen to you my Carlson guy is never heard of but if you say Bob it's Walt's from beyond the grave I forgot one thing I had one last wish that is for the seats to

do Bob okay get on it oh yep yeah yeah skip well what are you doing here Bob Bob go go go to Walt call me I'll put a bust I'll put like a bust outside his like house and I'll project my face onto it that's good and then I'll tell him to make it Bob but again

you're as in the spirit of the song you're only pretending to terrorize yeah of course you're you're your hope is not to scare the hell out of elderly man Bob Gurren yes you're just trying to provoke some more great work from this great of course and this

is another room and I know I was I often I've said this on the other home and I mentioned on a small world episode that I didn't like that you could sort of see that you're in a big room and you guys I think you guys convinced me on that now that I've been on a small

road lot recently I do like that it's kind of like boxy and you see the like it you don't need the illusion that you're in some other place because small world is all it's little dolls like that's kind of almost like you're in a big toy box or something or you're

in a big dollhouse on small world yeah but on a mansion I really like that it feels pretty outside like you do feel like you're outside in the scene yeah no visible ceiling yeah which you don't on the Jack Skellington version you can it's lit up very uh it's brighter

it's bright her that's what I meant to say did you mean to say it's so weird no I was just couldn't think of a good word and then Jason said it so then I did like big moose voice it's bright her yeah I mean to say uh yeah as a kid I would always like I would look

for it I remember I would look for like this has to be a room but like sometimes you couldn't see it now you're outside here's something I didn't know grim gringos comes from a Shakespeare poem Venus and Adonis it does indeed and this this brings me to a point that kind of influence

by where this series is gone where hot cast the fright this year has gone I would say that Shakespeare has not come up on the show terribly much over the years but it has in this series because and this was a second gate thing so let me fill in anybody who is not subscribed

to that and you should be patreon.com slash podcast the right nice uh yep fit it in there but recent one of these other episodes uh there was discussion of Shakespeare because uh Mike here was giving some consideration to taking private Shakespeare classes um and what

because he's suddenly interested in the private but a small a small limited time Shakespeare class was this to broaden his horizons as an actor well possibly it has Mike but one of the things influencing this notion was was the teacher and would you like to tell us

who the teacher of the class here can see you happen to be considering taking I thought about it last night I really I forgot to even look into it so I think it is too late for you now this round uh um but Arman Schemerman who played Quark on deep space nine Star Trek

Deep Space nine in Glendale said he was teaching a Shakespeare class at a theater up there I went I went looking into this it definitely stuck with me and I and I found his his Twitter in which he just post like the phone number to call to sign up for the class I love that

this is at the Anteas theater company in Glendale yeah which uh and Mike is a as an aspiring Shakespeare fan and you heard of Anteas before of course oh yeah yeah yeah well you moved here and you were like huh you see beer and Tayus and Tayus B you see B yeah yeah um this

class uh with this and it's it is now too late for you to have done it but this would have been four hundred twenty five dollars for six weeks sure a small price to pay to spend time around the actor who played Quark that's a pretty easy really like that's a bird

it is sort of a higher all right but I thought it'd be valuable to uh read to you what you would have been signing up because I don't know if you read the the synopsis of what would have been asked of you if you were to spend six weeks learning Shakespeare to be around Quark

have the time right now uh uh uh uh uh uh so Arman Schemerman the esteemed Shakespearean scholar and teacher offers a six week class at the Anteas theater he's looking for new people so far yeah yeah yeah yeah you're new uh interested in learning more about Elizabethan rhetoric you

with it so far I hear yeah yeah I'm understanding the language you're saying yeah yeah I mean and you I don't you I think you could stand and know more about Elizabethan rhetoric as far as I can tell um uh which he considers the Rosetta Stone to not only understand the playwright's language

but also acquiring techniques for communicating arcane language yeah to a modern audience this is exactly what Jason said would be required that it's not just learning the text but it's how to update the language which is a little obtuse I mean and I I thought uh I it's very good teachers

in high school uh and but I feel like there was not enough context when we covered Shakespeare it was just kind of like learn this but don't like it can feel very stiff if you're like yeah here's the plot here's the kind of stiff language sure it made more sense when I

watched like there's an Orson Wells Hamlet there's also uh which I really do love this movie the Ethan Hawke modern Hamlet okay which Julia Stiles and Bill Murray and like a bunch of other okay actors right right um well this is again this is why you sign what sign up for the Shimmerman

corset entay as to learn about Elizabeth and rhetoric which is the Rosetta Stone to unlock all of it and that's what it's about not about getting to look at cork for several hours for six weeks and also you're gonna get his insights into Elizabethan culture medieval history religious

many of the things you've always been interested in on this show I'd love to get into all of it it sounds interesting maybe it wasn't something that previously I've ever expressed interest in but but given the right you know it makes sense you're into a music artist and he delves into this genre

suddenly you want to go down the path of this genre and find out more uh and see yeah if hey if I look I'm a fan of his work as cork I maybe I do want to learn about medieval history right maybe I want to know that maybe in a different life or a different one different decade of our life Jason

I would have taken this together wow you think you would have agreed to this oh if I paid if I paid for it if I paid for it I mean that certainly would have been the other thing on the cake but I need a wingman are you like for way to go on dates no to no to get

me in with arm and shimmerment I think he's gonna be able to tell I haven't even seen the Ethan Hawking real proud I need somebody who knows one percent of a Shakespeare to join me the real problem is I would have had to work so hard at this it would have taken so much extra time out of it and I

don't want to disappoint him so ultimately I can't unless I have the time to devote to practicing Shakespeare did you could you know you just like well you're more in game I'm still picturing you with a little baby that's not what you have you're engaged with your daughter it's hard you

can't exactly be like all right I'm feeding her in one hand and then in the other I am uh learning about uh what religions were thriving in the Elizabethan era yes exactly uh it's not quite that but you know there's still a limited amount of time and going it first of all it seems

hilarious me under prepared are trying to cram in the car on the way into arm and shimmerment Shakespeare class you're eating Taco Bell and one and you're sharing it you're like up on the dash you have like really tiny type you're entire dashboard is taken up with the full soliloquy

you have to go do in six minutes eating yeah shoving a crunch wrap in my mouth and I'm trying to like memorize words I don't know like words that are unfamiliar what and then I'm just like I'm like start crying I'm like I'm gonna disappoint Clark Clark's gonna be himself is that with me

you see that I don't know the show is he is would quirk be if he was upset is he a character was upset a lot no I he not really I mean he was the bartender essentially he's a frangie and he's always kind of like up to something and like he's you know I think he's ultimately a good guy but

he you know he's up to some mischief and he's up to like deals and he's bartering and stuff so he's not like he wouldn't be upset and like he wouldn't be upset in the way I'm worried armman to be because just looking at armants Twitter and the posting I feel like arm and would be somebody

would call me over and be like Michael I am so disappointed in you what you've done here today is a disgrace to the theater and to shake William Shakespeare and I don't say that lightly I've been teaching for over four or five decades and I just think that quite frankly you should quit

acting in general like I feel like he's very scary and are not the tweed the tweed the tweed I don't I've never banned anyone from the Anteas before right there are no faces do not admit this man yeah you will be the first we will make room right at the box office door in your face will be the

first plastered shamefully on that wall I despise you and there's room for it to room to fail into sore in this class no no I just think we got a lot we got a lot of work to do before he's so I have a lot when you brought this up I think the timeline if you were had signed up for it I

think it had been like you know maybe it's two weeks before first the first class and then you've only got a week in between in which you're very busy you've got a lot going on and the I think yeah I just don't think the time to to sore and to learn this complex language is going to be there

but I'm sure he would have been given a monologue or a poem or something to practice I don't think yeah that come in prepared well in each class you do I'm sure by the time you two I imagine yeah I don't even know the first he would might go get away for a little bit just doing kind of the free

like what brought you here you would have to lie your way through that but that's acting that be if you could get through the opening where you kind of imply that you're interested in a Elizabethan culture and you never say the word cork or forangi we really you can survive that

test maybe you could soar in the rest and then he would like mention an episode of something where he had to do some of this or some other character to do some of this and I go oh excuse me buddy were you on Star Trek do you say nine oh what did the makeup they under the you were one of the what

do they call those guys so you are swinging way too far in the other you're like hmm you're swinging between extreme this is the kind maybe this is the kind of note that armen would give is that you can't you can't run yeah every performance including lying to an actor you want to

be around instead of just going to meet them at a Q&A the character has to be based in reality you know this is the sort of comical deception present in Shakespeare's comedies all right well you would have thrived in this class I think I would have loved this class you gotta say well

maybe well you could still do it and then you just got a like uh you know I don't know be there as some sort of like Jason helper you have to act like oh yes he's my my young ward I never go anywhere without my man servant Michael sure yeah yeah he was mentioning he's aware of some of

your television work did you fit in any television work in your time so keep am I's word or is no I'm your no you know you're you have to do Shakespeare okay or as part of the plan you have to pay for it just to keep up the because the name on the credit card as it has to be Jason it's

got a match the three digit code if you want to pay him back later fine but I think probably Jason just should pay the four hundred twenty five dollars but then yeah you have to learn all the Shakespeare and Mike gets to hang out deal with your bags and personal effects and then but and then you get

to watch all of the classes and stare at our instrument for six weeks I look I think of Jonathan Frakes with teaching class it would be much more of an easy vibe where it'd be like Mr. Frakes I didn't do any of the homework that's all right don't worry about it is the class want to go out

and get a stake and I'll tell TV stories like that's that's maybe more what I'm looking for but the seriousness the passion yeah which which clearly are from that bio that arm and has for Shakespeare but this is where what I why I brought all of this up is that you know he's going to do other

sessions of this this will be a possibility for you in the future and I figured at some point you know saying grim grinning ghosts in context would that was going to happen anyway it occurred to me this morning why not have Mike read it and give you the opportunity to prove your potential

prowess is a Shakespearean actor which could then flesh out the entire illusion of you just want to be around cork for a while oh my god oh I truly thought this was going to end with me having to read this poem you know it's funny I was my again this was in my notes from last year and I was

like probably I'll hand it to Jason and that'll be something and then I was like wait a minute no Jason is not the aspiring Shakespearean actor no Michael and much like the class I've been sitting here reading it over and over in preparation yeah cuz that's how I read it now you're like this

is what scuts leading to this is what that weird tone's all about this is how I prepare for acting like I end like shows and so I beat stuff into the ground till it's like meaningless to me but I can do it all the spur by instinct it's also hard to know even what you would like what do

what a voice do I affect for grim grinning ghosts and a Shakespearean actor yeah I don't know and and you have a question when you arrive at it which is kind of in the middle of the stanza from Venus and Adonis that do you kind of like blow past it do you not act like it's the name of a

song that you like from a ride that you like or do you really hit it I don't it's really up to you but I think this is you know if you ever had to point if Armin was put got you in a corner and said you don't care about Shakespeare do you and you'd say sir I have nothing but respect for you

but you're incorrect I in fact have performed Shakespeare in an audio medium I will produce the state for you in flavor style I also like one of my favorite things is so many of people on Star Trek are very accomplished actors yeah right and like they do know all this stuff and they

can recite their favorite passage or maybe a whole play or whatever and then you're cutting their like I think went I'm like Patrick's do a very accomplished Mr. J Todd or the Rob me Lin's what do they want and you're like I work so hard but but but pronouncing

Romulan and Ferengi correctly is kind of like saying some of the Shakespeare terminology correctly so I leave it to you now so regale this is yes this is part of it's one of his early poems venison adonis that happens to have a phrase that we know and I've talked about in this episode

here now she's like spirit aspiring Elizabethan actor could I do it like Clark yeah I think it's up to you favorite tyrant no hard favorite tyrant ugly eager lean hateful divorce of love thus chide she death grim grinning ghost earth's worm what does thou mean to stifle beauty and to

stealth his breath who when he lived his breath and beauty set gloss on the rose smell to the violet that's a cold reef folks and then what do you I mean Jason feel free to do this but you could we it does anybody feel like they could do what what armen or what what actually what cork would say

in response to that can you do a cork I cannot do a quark also is that that's the second day of the poem sounds some of the parts I mean I'd say I did a little control F to find the word grim oh yeah sure got it from there what do you think what do you think he would think

uh who cares but you nonsense that is I can't do a good core I really should have a better core compression I think it's pretty good that's all right you're you're you're doing me no I don't want to get myself well well I don't know did you think it was moving

I thought it had a lot of range like like the song there was some low and some high it had dynamics spikes I thought it was pretty good maybe you could sell your way into doing this class I mean yeah I I would love he does it again we'll see if he does it again I mean look it's good to

test yourself sometimes and yeah maybe is it helpful to test yourself when you're around somebody who was on one of the star trucks from the 1990s yes that's extra good it puts the heat on you you really want to perform now what'll happen is that some podcast the ride superfan is going to

keep an eye on the classes at the entayest theater yeah but they're going to pretend they're interested in Shakespeare just to be around you so then we got a class we got a little chain where there's arm and up on stage and then you're staring like a like a wide eyed puppy at him

and then right next to you is some guy who doesn't want to admit I'm a assuming guy who doesn't want to admit yeah let's be honest yeah yeah yeah doesn't want to admit that he knows you from podcast the ride yes I'm always on Shakespeare yeah love that guy oh you look podcast oh we're

about to feel and start your ass I'm wearing a shirt so blinded by my love of Shakespeare this hypothetical person is taken like every like there's so many like Star Trek classes at this point like you love our burns teaching a class in there like Marina services teaching a class

Scott baccala has one from Star Trek Enterprise oh I love baccala baccala every Brooks's materialize he's teaching a class yeah so every is all in LA this is a joke oh okay I truly I truly thought you were tracking all of the I wish it was just the Star Trek theater teaching acting classes

all from the cast I well like I mean I follow these people on Twitter but I don't know that any of them are teaching acting classes other than Armin right now to sleep to sleep a chance to dream look I will take acting class from anyone who was on so I mean there's still a couple original I

would George decay acting class forget about it chatner Walter Canig come on you know the three this is the chance that you have it's that you know unless some of these other people start classes and I just thought you know that you got to follow your dream now well this one is present with your

dream is just miles mirror miles away at the entayus oh yeah I hope I got you closer to thank you yeah I appreciate that look the media landscape popular culture is always shifting but the theater is eternal much like the Hunan mansion this guy yeah this guy needs to take Shakespeare classes I

think I be his yeah I think you excel the mode he's the one who randomly in some episodes said we tread these boards he said it multiple as a defense when you said something we didn't understand I said I said something equally arcade yeah when somebody yeah he throws Shakespeare at you when

he's cornered is the weirdest ticker when he gets nervous he gets he gets so I was scared of you uh well that's all something do you want to close out you had this yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well I I don't know if you should do it next year or the year after

we did an episode recently about fixing tomorrow lands and I said we got to do more of this and I think we should do the same exercise where we each take different assignments and we talk about the Hunan mansion some of I don't I don't know if we figure it out later but like

what walk through the Hunan mansion and what do you change what do you keep the same what do you fix what don't you fix what do you make worse now I think old me would have been on edge about this because what you've just described is a an excuse to go all the way backwards right and do everything

again even though I'm not sure we are not a graveyard now we're not doesn't seem like we are but uh but new me changed Scott is uh you touched by this idea oh great I think uh I think that as uh now that I'm backed into a corner uh yeah let's now I know I didn't have any ideas about how to

change the bus which I think are crazy yeah I welcome this I said let's go all the way back next year when we have now that we're taking our time let's let's go through the let's look at every hedge let's go through the gift shop and let's talk why not why not talk about every single

item again and point to it and say change okay maybe because there will be I think the queue will be ready next year and the gift shop will be ready next year maybe we could do queue gift shop and then hitchhiking ghosts and the moving walkways finish it out and then the following year changed me

is into this declaration go through just because it's a tidier way to do it then we go through and we we each maybe figure out a different assignment budget we each have a different budget and we go through the haunted mansion and propose our different changes to it sure sure we'll do another

version of this sometime in the next 12 months not haunted mansion related because I enjoy the exercise but 2026 is fixing haunted mansion so we have now delayed doing presumably the Disney world one yes the way doing phantom manner yes yes we haven't talked about if phantom

manner is technically a separate thing that we could do elsewhere in October we'll talk about that in 2026 we'll do a lot of planning right and how this will work um great well changed me cannot wait yeah for this excuse to go all the way back through yep yep and do it all again now

I can't promise that I'm not going to change again we'll see too here a lot of time it is yeah I just hope I just hope you dab that blood coming out if you're like the tears are yeah me out of them and it's a real steady stream now you'll have seen a rubber I'm better I'm

improved this is there's there's there's increased blood flow in my head I want it to be coming out of me this doesn't indicate any rage that I've been suppressing unhealthily for this entire interminable episode y'all you'll have seen if Robert Downey Jr.'s doing an accent or not by

then by 2026 so there'll be you could be different you'll be different maybe I'll be talking like that X maybe we all will oh a hundred million dollars to do like a porous bad and all boys I hope I hope I think he doesn't like Rodney Dangerfield wow he took a he boy actor's taking inspiration from the weirdest places is dr. Duham it's like Rodney

dr. Duham is not getting respect he kind of doesn't though he doesn't get anger so yeah well see uh yeah that's what fuels the character and we can't wait to meet him and we will well a lot a lot happening in 2026 a lot happening in 2025 in which uh Mike without even me

pressing at all yeah with my hands off the wheel approach you've now committed to finishing the haunted mansion next year that's wild the episode in charred and has not said anything in protest therefore he signs off and as soon as I say you survive Tom cas the fright that closes the door

at which point there would have been we would have been able to get protest from Jason what I would like to say is that episode could be five hours long hmm so well changed me change me usually likes to get these done in a tiny amount of time double up a so change me as nothing but time yeah nothing

but I don't have anything else going on time enough at last yeah is that she's that's that's six years that's why lights on all right well I guess for now you survived hot cast the fright and when we push I guess confusingly some of the graveyard not even sure what's left we'll find

out next year next year yeah but wow we this is the first single room that is that will have taken three yeah calendar years to get out of and you know what the more we extend it why not because I don't you know now it's become such a tradition that I really love is that you know the getting

to post these wondering what the world in America will be like a year from now I hope we do so many more haunted mansion episodes that happen to come you know within 10 days of Donald Trump potentially being the president again hey because this guy's you know he's gonna live till he's

110 and they're gonna run him until he's 110 no matter what happens so you think we have like our honimation and Trump election season gonna meet at least three more times it depends on us and it depends on him yeah yeah three could be could be seven that's true we don't know so it's all

ahead of us everything's out of us yeah doctor doom is that it wasn't more trying well it's what I see now and it's why I've I've taken this this relaxed attitude yeah so I look forward to the future and to just chilling out and hanging out with you guys for three bonus episodes every month check

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returning oh no the ghost us war you're returning to remind us of it's like a ghost who we soon meet as we're being for the syphidious love and guts on finishing it what funny names the series of the other guys are all always hungry we have our two monkeys and say about it when

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