Ocean City, NJ Boardwalk with Allan McLeod

Forever Dog! Warning the following podcast may contain unified taffy agreements. Chuck E. Cheese's skeleton wearing the skin of a different animal, a very rare mention of F.Trub actor Larry Storch, and the danger of teens claiming too many boardwalk benches. All that plus, Allan McLeod joins us to talk the ocean city new Jersey boardwalk on today's Podcast, The Ride. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, but today, I'll title Taffy Boys. I'm Scott Gumbtaffy Boy Scott. There's Taffy Boy Jason.

I was wondering if you were going to go for seaside confections or the title America's greatest family resort, which is... Well, this is a heavy marketing. Jason, I cannot go to that. I mean, this is deeper than I can go because this is not my place. It's not a place I've been. It's a place you've been. We've talked about before. Basically, it's a phenomenon. Yeah, yeah. And a place dear to our guests, seemingly. My Carlson, I don't know... Never been. But I am a Taffy Boy. That's...

You don't have to be in this. You don't have to be in Ocean City to be a Taffy Boy. Catch all of this. I feel like Ocean City boardwalk is that kind of the way to... I think that's right. Ocean City, we need to clarify Ocean City, New Jersey. Yes. Ocean City, Maryland is very different town. Is another thing? Yeah. And I got confused in some research where I started because it seems like it was like two main parks that we're dealing with on the boardwalk here.

And then I bumped into a third and like, what are you? Hang on. What? A whole other and then really got a little bit into it and realized it was Maryland. So... A whole different history. Okay. So that means... Trimper's rides, you're out. Trimper... Out on the trimper. Enjoy getting air right now because that's it for you, Trimper. Not until we make it to Maryland. But here we're in New Jersey here and this comes courtesy of a great guest. Somebody who...

It defies logic that he has not been here yet and I'm happy it's happened. Being on the show, you'd have to say, it's a no-brainer. I'm very, very glad to have... He's got a great new podcast called Walking About and I'm excited to talk about... If you're a Dolboys fan, you know him as molasses boy. It's Alan McCloud. Hey! Oh my gosh. I'm so happy to be on. I guess it does... Everything's so crazy in the world. It does seem logical now that I am here. You know. Yes, finally.

Finally, there's something... Yes, things make sense. Things make sense. It's crazy world of virus. It's good to be here with all the taffy boys. I am a molasses boy. Yeah. Oh, right. He's also available. Very close, yeah. It's very close and it's available at the same shops that you might find along the boardwalk if you're getting your saltwater taffy. Sticky and sweet. Both molasses and taffy. Yeah. Well, I saw a big line.

I watched a video that filmed a big line of taffy barrels at the split... The place you've talked about before, Jason, the Shrivers is the name of the... Shrivers. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. It's a toy that my son loves and I saw in that line up of taffy barrels some molasses taffy. So, it all ties together. Happy to be in second or third or fourth place. I don't know if you would rank the chewy treats. Oh. Oh, Jason should have this on time. In terms of...

Taffy are in terms of Shrivers. Shrivers, yeah. I rank Shrivers pretty high. You know, I mean, just as far as like... You're talking more taffy versus molasses versus molasses. Oh. I don't know what else. I mean, molasses is not really just you eat it on its own, right? Do you just eat a cup of molasses? You guys don't do that. I can't really picture... I don't have a clear image of looking at just molasses. You know, do that.

Well, molasses is like the leftover stuff after you make something good. They're like, what would you do with this shit? We would put it into some cookies or something. Yeah. How do you feel about that you're the nickname that's stuck to you is that it's... Now you're equating it with left overs. Does it feel like it? There's something good in everything, you know? I mean, I don't know. Like, it's a very utilitarian nickname maybe. You know, or... Use every bit of everything.

I've fully accepted that. You know, the name originated from me being slow. Being a slow boy and turning into a slow man that's accepted that name. Did it come for... Did they name you? Did it always name you that or did you come in? Did you have... Is that been floating around? That's an old football nickname. Oh, gotcha. Being too slow on the offensive line. Wow. It is not an easy going attitude. It is about literal physical slums. It's now become more of a lifestyle. You've owned it now.

A brand. Yeah, a brand. That's my brand. That's my brand. But it is nice to see that molasses is available at Shrivers, which a place that I love. I love looking at those machines. I love just kind of going and see what they're doing. Yeah. And that little factory through the window, you know? Yeah, yeah. Those like 100 plus year old machines. They're still using it. They're still using it. They don't make them like that anymore. Yeah. Wow. So you get to see people doing it. Yeah, yeah.

It's like on Disneyland Main Street, you get to see people making like candy apples or something. So you get to see people like doing it churn into that. Yeah. Working on the taffy. Yeah, it's great. This is well-mined, but not since you were paired with your own past self, was there during the city walk saga? Was there such a agreement? Yeah. I mean, this is great.

I love that this is where we're starting from and that you brought us this out that you wanted to talk about this because perfect for Jason. This is great. I love it. But we were both like, where does your ocean city New Jersey fondness come from? Because you grew up Alabama. I'm correct. Yeah. And so I do, I have a huge fondness for ocean city. And it's from my wife's family. They do a family reunion there pretty much every year and have done it since for decades and decades.

And then so when I kind of came along, I started accompanying Stacey on these family reunions and just fell in love with ocean city and had never really been to spend any time in New Jersey at all. And I just like, while I don't have a nostalgia from being a kid there, I embrace, it's automatically a place you just become nostalgic for because it's so stuck in time and just like. Oh, sure. It's just a fun environment, a fun place to go. Of course, I love walking around.

So it's like, if you don't like walking, then I don't know ocean city might not be the place for you. Yeah. Because not only just, I mean, parking is not easy. Like once you kind of find a parking spot, it's like you're not driving around much. Like you just kind of make your way around. And then of course the boardwalk, which is about two and a half miles longer. I think it's eight miles. Oh, really?

Okay. When I think two and a half for like, you know, amusement parks and restaurants and stuff, but the boardwalk keeps going in both directions. Oh, like the houses and stuff. How is it? Yeah, yeah. That's true. Yeah. But the amusement zone itself is like two and a half three miles. Something like that. Yeah. That's good. That's awesome. Lots and blocks.

Wow. Yeah. So it's just a place that from getting to go and see my wife's family and get a sense of like here, all the stories that they've had from when they were kids and that their parents had from when they were kids, you just kind of develop a real appreciation for it and taking tours. I remember we took several years ago, took like a ghost tour around and it was just hilarious. You know, because you think you get to know a bit more about the history of the area.

And it was just really funny, like the guide was just a very old man who sort of made an attempt at a costume with sort of a pirate shirt. And but he kept trying to recruit my friend Chris to kind of like pass the torch to him, you know, like who Chris was living in Philadelphia at the time and he was like, you might be a good guide. You know, like he kept trying to give it to Chris. Oh, my God. Maybe like take over the business. Yeah, take over the business. Like on the tour, it was funny.

What are you doing that like to every group he had like finding one person in the group and going, oh, maybe this person will get me out of this hell. Maybe, maybe. Or there's a pyramid. Oh, yeah, perhaps that's what it is. Yeah, yeah. Just give me 10%. But otherwise you control the business and that's the point. It's funny you say that because I never took the ghost tour, but my memory in the mid to late 90s is a ghost tour company and I don't know if it's the same company.

I don't know if it's popped up and going away. But I remember they had a building or they had offices shared with it was ghost store and internet cafe and I was brand new to the internet at the time. And I was like, mom, mom, we got to go with religion city. We got to check out this internet cafe. And I just remember the more the signs outside like ghost stores slash internet cafe. That's so awesome. I don't know if this ghost store had a brick and mortar office.

I can't imagine. Yeah. And I can't remember that. I say like I can't remember the name of the the tour that we took, but it was very memorable for that for that aspect alone. Internet cafes are going to be one of those really hard things to explain to our kids. Now that all cafes are internet cafes, they said to be specially designated. Okay, imagine you're borrowing a dirty desktop computer. Okay, a desktop computer is, let me go back.

Well, now they have cafes that are specifically non internet, right? Like I mean. Oh, maybe. Yeah, so you can really like interact with humans. I guess that's the idea, right? Yeah. You're not all on your device. Right. So you can like get into that book you're reading or really like, you know, be present with your friends. Right. Well, man, like all of the great, you know, think of a sign felled, Frazier friends, all of them cafe central location.

Right. Yes. And today all of them would just be that they just sit down and plop right down on their phones. That's right. So it would ensue no relationship discussion. That's so true. Yeah. Yeah. There'd be no stories would occur. We're all missing out. You might say. I would existence of Wi-Fi makes it so we don't get in into any capers at that one place that we go. Right. And it ruins a lot of horror movie stories, you know? Yes, true. Could you text? Yeah. I would just text the police man.

There was an episode of Studio 60 that took it right up to the wire where like we're deep in cell phone era. Like, but they wanted to trap some characters on the roof. And they like, so they have to write it into it. Like, we're in the one place in Los Angeles where there's no cell reception. He's a sorkin is just said on a figure it out. What? We got a trap character. There's romantic tension between the characters. We got put them on the roof, figure it out.

There's pockets where there's no reception. Well, the roof wouldn't have roof have better reception. No, no, fuck it. Doesn't have. Couldn't they have just left their phones in their office? No, that's a good one. Yeah. You should have been in there. Yeah, you should have been in there. I tried. I tried so hard to intern on Studio 60. You actually did? Yes, I did. I lined up with your like, uh, Quicksummer semester in LA.

And it was like, everyone was like, oh, Aaron sorkins making a new TV show. It's shooting right at Warner Brothers. Say on the street friendly, oh, Quid apartment. And if you can get it on that, you'll be there for 10 seasons straight. And I did not, they didn't hire any interns except one person because her mom was, uh, Bradley Whitford's cousin. There you go. How close did you get like, did you just, how did you learn that about like, oh, I was rejected. You have an end.

Did you have an inside person? Oh, she told, I, I, um, she was another student in the mirror. Oh, yeah. No, I knew her. Oh, they didn't hire. I just got in because my mom is related to that. Oh, you still got that number? I, uh, you, you, you, you give us that contact info. We could get in with Bradley Whitford's, uh, how I mean, I guess so I never really thought about it. We're really close with her. She is going to be a ticket for all of us. Exactly. She's holding out on her.

I want that internship. Uh, uh, okay, wait, where were that was if I was from cell phone, so that was from internet cafes. Okay. Okay. Well, speaking of like, you know, harkening back to, to times gone by, am I correct? The ocean city is a dry city. You are correct. Okay. That is a bone. Uh, dry is bone. Uh, the, the thing that always makes me laugh. Um, there's, uh, I think three bridges into town and at the foot of all of those bridges because you can bring alcohol.

You can have alcohol in your homes. Um, uh, uh, you can drink it at home. You can't drink it on the beach. Uh, but at the foot of every bridge on the mainland, uh, is a giant liquor store. No, as soon as not even one foot from where you get. Yeah. So we always stop it. I can't remember the name of this show, but it's just like that. You stop because you have to fly it for, I mean, as far as I know, either from here, you fly into like, uh, New York or Atlantic City or Philadelphia.

We're filling it up. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, generally the drive from any of those areas, you got to stop at one of these, uh, bridge liquor stores. Yeah. Well, to also get, they're generally their groceries and stuff too. So you're kind of stocking up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.

But, um, but yeah, but you, that's where people just have carts full of, uh, a booze, you know, and there is a lot of controversy in the last few years, um, because some restaurants, so for the longest time, you couldn't do BYUB. In the last few years, some restaurants establish membership supper clubs where if you paid like 10 bucks, 15 bucks, you join the member, you, you were a member and then you could be Y-O-B. Hmm. This is this dance you have to do. So what are we retaining here?

Because it, because doesn't it just cause, because I saw that, you know, like despite being a dry city that, uh, it was, the ocean city was declared the drunkest town in New Jersey. Like does it not just create more overcompensate? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, but also like as I was alluding to it at the top, like at some point, I think I'd a travel channel special. It was deemed like number one, America's greatest family resort.

And they just took that moniker and just, they have stamped it on beach tags and stamped on t shirts. They stamped it on marketing material. Something the travel channel said once that you know, any official, there was no, there was no voting body for this. I, there might have been voting. There, it could have been a poll, but I was like, I, I was having trouble finding the origin of it.

But I just remember at some point in high school, I started to see it there, like just one day, there was all this stuff about America's greatest family resort. Huh. Well, what was the town? What's the town where Bruce Springsteens from? Uh, that's Asbury Pazbury. Asbury Pazbury Pazbury Pazbury. They're out in New Jersey. I feel like there was a time when Asbury Park was a dry town or something, like a long, long time ago or something.

And then they introduced, uh, they made it, they made it not a dry town anymore, whatever they made it just a regular wet, wet town. And, and then it all turned, that's like when the rock and roll scene really like took off, you know, and the people that kind of the, the forebears before even Bruce Springsteen kind of in what led to him, you know.

So I feel like there's like this, you know, the neighboring towns or whatever, cause I don't even know if Atlantic City's in that probably not a dry town. No, Atlantic City and even if you go either direction, either C Isle or Margate or Vent Err, immediately there's, yeah, bars and stuff. So like Ocean City, New Jersey's like we're doing our own thing. We're not becoming one of those rock and roll towns, you know, we're a race drunk coming out of the Taj Mahal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We don't want any global rock stars being born here, maybe causing tourism. It goes back to the founding, cause the town was founded by like Methodist. You want to like a wholesome place to go on vacation. Gotcha. And, uh, yeah, it's just kind of kept the wholesomeness kind of vibe the whole time. But it's funny, I say that like Cape May, New Jersey, which is at the end of like the coast.

Also a lot of historical stuff and like, you know, very focused on preserving the old houses and a lot of restaurants have been there a long and long time and people have their traditions, family trips, family reunions that they do and stuff. But Cape May is like a wet town and it doesn't seem like grimy. Some towns are very wet towns and seem very grimy. Very wet. Yeah. Um, the wetdest and the grimyest of towns.

But we just passed Memorial Day weekend and I saw there were at some of the beach dance like Ocean City at like, you know, there were a bunch of teens like we're wing bands of teens. There was only one stabbing which is unusual. Uh, usually or unusual. What's that? Cause there's more stabbing usually. Usually, usually not. Usually just rally teens and they just had arrested for what? Drinking or weed.

Yeah. And then they just take them to the police station and the parents can come pick them up and there's no charges if they do communities that rest like this is a thing. Like in Wildwood, uh, which is a much larger like wilder Josie shore peach down. They have due to they declared a state of emergency. There were so many groups of roaming. Just going down right now in both of these plates.

Like it seems like the ocean city things more mild, but although a stabbing, but then yeah, the headlines are dramatic. A guy airs a headlight from the inquirer.com. Jersey shore official says unruly teens won't be allowed to steal summer. This is a concern. I mean, this is attention as we record this and even I didn't realize what a hot button issue we're talking about. Wow. We have the we're at the top of summer here and this is the potential that summer could be stolen.

Wow. We got to stop these teens. I remember when I was in high, this was a headlines then like the teens are taking over all the pavilions. These old people need those benches by the port wall. You know, the benches on the work walk that they can sit and stare at the ocean like it's full of dots. It's a fake up an air die rubbing on those benches. So what are they doing now? They out. It's like all the beaches are closed at 8 p.m.

And that all, but it's like well now that roving bands of teens are on the boardwalk. This is just going to let them go wild. This is a dirty dancing scenario, yeah, I was going to say it's like no, yeah, it's some reverend behind this. It's like, oh, I don't know these teens whose childhood happened during COVID, they might be the socialization might be, they might be a little off kilter.

I mean, if there is just if anybody just would go out there with a boom box and start playing the footloose song, we could they just start dancing and then that would be the end of it. Yeah, that's not sticking up with reverend. It is a reverend footloose, that's right. Oh, yeah, that's what they need a town that band dancing. Yes, yeah, yeah. Well, they band dancing in. I think that's right. I assume it must dirty dancing must be about a good. Yeah, do you have any dancing? Like dirty dancing?

No, they're like at a camp or I don't know, something happens. There's just is dirty dancing. Yeah, it's just a bit of a conservative vibe. Yeah. So dirty dancing incidentally is was made at my it was shot at two different hotels in Virginia. Oh, and one of them was a hotel that my aunt Sharon and Uncle Mack used to be the managers of. Wow. So really? It was at the time. So I was going there as a kid to mountain lake Virginia to this hotel, even before dirty dance like as a little kid. Oh, yeah.

Even before when dirty dancing came out. Oh, my gosh. Look at that. Wow. That's surreal probably. Yeah. It was very surreal and it was like just one it's still one of my favorite movies. I can't really separate the two. Like, I mean, it's it is objectively a great movie. Yeah, but it's one of your favorite like home movies. Yeah, it's like it kind of brought it kind of brought Hollywood home to me, you know, because I recognized it and it was just, yeah, it was the best.

Wow. It's pretty exciting. Yeah, but like a bit not even just some move because sometimes it'll be like, some move, you know, like I remember like, I mean, like lots of stuff filmed around me, I guess in the valley, but you know, just like Monday, you know, Monday, that's just like a, because it's like a living back lot. Yeah. I'm like, oh, you know, hey, blast from the past filmed one scene down the street from you. The brand new, Brendan Fraser. What is that? It is.

See, not a time case in like a bonnet. Right. Yeah. But very dancing. We're probably where the setting brings a lot to it. So like, and people must travel there to go to those places. Somebody Jason and I know grew up on the pond from on Golden Pond. Really? Yeah. Wow. Wow. My day. My day. And it was very surreal because when it came out, I had not traveled back home in a little while due to the pandemic, but Mara Vista is filmed like where I grew up.

Oh, like she got in the first or second episode, she goes to when it aquariums, fly store and I looked up where that was. I was like, oh, just quarter mile from the middle school. I went to like just down the street where you manage the football team. Yeah. I remained obsessed with team. I'm a football team in seventh grade. I haven't watched there is there was a movie starring Kristen Wig and Indie movie that shot in Ocean City, but I haven't watched that one yet.

Well, they're worried about all the Hollywood roughnecks coming in bringing their left coast ideals. Well, no, I think they were very excited because I believe it probably shot in the off season. And I'm sure they were happy for the mint money that's anything is happening there. You know, there's two characters in my world who don't come up a ton on the show mainly because I can't take them to theme parks. I'm talking about my cats, bunny and Brenda. They are adorable.

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Okay. I have another logistics question. Is any of- because I'm keeping- I've had a hard time keeping all these straight, all the Jersey amusement places. There's Ocean City, and then there's these two parks that we'll talk about that are here. Then Wildwood and Morrie's Pier, that's way south of everything we're talking about. Correct. I believe Wildwood is south. I forget what's north and what's south. But it's a separate district and Lanark City is all a thing.

That's like a little bit up north. Is any of this the Jersey shore? Or is what you call the Jersey shore? This is all considered the Jersey shore. Yeah. Okay. But there is Norturzy shore, which that's where you get to like, as very park as we talked about. I believe Long Beach Island, Alito Country. Oh. That's I think Norturzy where they're flying weird flag. Okay. I've never been anywhere here. I've never been to any of the Jersey shore. No, I haven't done any of this yet.

You ever gone down to the shore? Is that what you think? Yeah, you go down. Go down the shore. Go down the shore. Go down the shore. Yeah. Go down shore. Yeah. That's the thing. That's the like, go down shore. Go down the way of go down shore. Oh, we're going down the shore this weekend. Hope the rain. Hope the rain don't be in bed. When it's straight to here. That's the offseason. Are there still making as much taffy as they do during the peak?

Shrivers is one of the boardwalk businesses that are open like all year round. And I don't think they're making as much, but they certainly are. But are they shipping out or are they making taffy just for the boardwalk? Sorry to go back to taffy, but I know they're working in there, but they're shipping a lot of that out. That's not just being made for the patrons of the boardwalk. Okay. Yeah, no, they have big shipping businesses. So let's see. There's on the our discord.

The discord that fans made for the show. They sent me a strivers. Oh, yeah. That's really a wild back. Yeah. Wait a minute. Did the gift basket include because I'm going into strivers and I'm looking up Mr. Taffy. He brought that toy and I and in the Google images and like, wait a minute. There's a book called the birth of Mr. Taffy. First of all, you ever seen Mr. Taffy and Alan? I recognize Mr. Taffy. You've seen him around. I didn't know about this book. I've seen him stroll in the store.

Oh, God, was there a book? There might have been a book. I'm just, I'm upset I can't like find even a preview page because I want to know his story very much. I mean, Jane and I both, you know, we have insane sweet tooth. So we like just like rabbit. You might have eaten a book. We animals. We tore it, we made a video. Yeah. It's very possible. And the same sweet tooth tore through is that I'd like the word choices. I really appreciate it there.

I think there is Taffy in the freezer because you can freeze Taffy. You know if you have Taffy in that freezer. I know I still have Taffy in the house. I'm not sure if it's in the cabinet or freezer. You just don't know where it's located. Yeah, I don't know where it's located. Or if you're like hiding it in the toilet, but you know, the compartment over the toilet in case any burglars break in and then they wouldn't think to look there. Yes, you know, Taffy.

Well, and it's tube Taffy too, so like it doesn't really go stick because Shriver's has info like brochures and they're like, if it gets hard, you just rub it between your hands. Or you can. Or you can. And it's offensive. So you can Taffy stays good forever as long as you roll it and rub it. It stays good for a really long time. You have to rub it twice a year. You rub it and you rub it. Every other six months, you roll it. Every other other six months.

You warm up your Taffy when you change your smoked detector batter. This is your chart for the detector. Yeah. It's time for me to tap the top. All the time. All the time. All the time. All the time. All the time. All the time. All the time. Okay. Rub, rub, rub, rub, rub. The handle is set. All right. I'll see you in a couple years, buddy. Keep aging. I might crazy to sit like maybe not really growing up with a lot of Taffy's thing. I'm going to find a one thing at Taffy every three years.

I mean, one piece of it, one inch long piece of it. Is that insane? Am I missing out on great Taffy possibilities in my life? I like sweets. I'm not buying a lot of Taffy. If somebody offered me Taffy, sure, but it's not my go-not in my go-to. It's also my teeth. It's not good for your teeth. It's not good for your teeth. No, this is a juice. I'm taking it out of your mouth right now. For audio fidelity, you probably should have stopped chewing it. I'm experiencing tremendous pain in my mouth.

You have Taffy. I feel every tooth. It's like chewing tobacco. You just have Taffy in your lip all the time. All in all. Taffy and Taffy, since he walked in. This is a Jersey short thing. I'm wearing an Ocean City T-shirt right now. Oh, nice. Nice. I should have worn my hoodie. I have a little hoodie. I think that's how we first. I was wearing an Ocean City hoodie at a party or something. You came up to me. It's how good I was.

I was so surprised because I'm like, I went from Alabama to all this Ocean City stuff. Yeah. I'm very fortunate to have the Ocean City connection through Stacey's family. Yeah. I like this new nostalgia. I like that you can have an equivalent of childhood nostalgia or something you're discovering in your dream. Yeah. I'm coasting off there in nostalgia. Now I have a bit of nostalgia of my own and then also having a kid that's gotten to go there every year. Oh, yeah. I don't know. Oh, yeah.

That's nice. One of you are viewing through or in me, if you're a parent, they are wandering around. There's plenty to enjoy if you're not a parent. Once you start having, seeing the kids run around and their reaction to stuff, that's super fun too. Oh, geez. Yeah. So what's he into? What's one of the go-to's kid-wise? Well, he loves the two big amusement parks that are, I don't know if they're exactly on either end. I mean, oh, yeah. There are few blocks apart.

Yeah, there are maybe a 10 or 15 minute walk apart. And we can get into him, but just to say over to Gillian's Wonderland Pier and Playland. What is that? Playland's castaway code. Playland's castaway code. Playland's castaway code. We always just call them Playland. Okay. And Wonderland Pier, we should, it is not a pier. It runs parallel at the boardwalk and the ocean. That can fuse me. And the beach. Getting in all this too. I'm looking, I don't see no pier. There's no pier. But more is pier.

And wow, well, it is a pier that shuts out into the sea. More is pier is pier. And if you'll wear a car and I think it was seaside heights in other town during her came Sandy. I believe a roller coaster fell into the like the pier broke up and a roller coaster like fell into the ocean. Wow. That was that ocean city? No, that was that sea side. Okay. But so that was a more getting those a little bit, but like, oh, guys, so those are kid hits for sure. Oh, yeah. So those are like the big things.

I mean, it's like you said in the beginning, like the whole boardwalk to me feels like you're not just going to one place. It's all kind of a continuum. It's all like you're popping around. Like we're going to go to we're going to go to playland and we're going to go to this arcade or go get, you know, a calzone over at this place or whatever.

It's all kind of like it's, it gets mixed up like when you're in just specific spots, like it's, it's never going to be just that one thing that you do because you're out there. Yeah. And you're going to pop around a little bit. But yeah, many golfs that look like. A lot of many golfs. You go to the music period, use a bathroom. Oh, historically being the most reliable bathrooms. Oh, yeah. That's a great, that's a great spot.

I like that, that's a neat, interesting architectural, like little location that music. Yeah. It's that just does jump out into the ocean and it's like a big event space for long time. A beach boys have played there. They're playing there. They're playing this summer. They're playing this summer. Yeah. Yeah. The beach boys are getting out there this summer. Wow. And they're doing their front yard stainless with them. Can you believe that?

They're becoming a regular presence at the music peer, bacon brothers. I bet it's been 50 years. Some of this stuff goes back 50 years. Jane saw, you know, grad, they sure for me this morning. She's like, oh, it's coming up, what 150 years old. And I was like, oh, what do they do for the hundredth? And I was like, oh, I wasn't alive. Okay. Not that much with old man. I was not alive for the hundredth. Beach boys soon enough too. The hundredth, 50 years. I was going to be a 150 year old.

I was going to be a 150 year old. They're like an OC con there or something too, I think. They just did a comic convention. Yeah. And I remember last time I was there, I saw a picture of a John Carlo Esposito. Oh, this is going to be cool. They had a lot of hair in there. Oh wow. This is not too shabby. They were the stars coming to the show. Yeah. Well, yeah. Oh yeah. I went to the schedule. Mike Love coming, Kenny G coming. Oh wow. Herman's Hermits feature is starring Peter, starring noon.

Peter Noon. Yes. That's how I want to your parents. He made it up to starring. Like the starring producer. He had a balance and I took credit. Yes. So all the girls, all the upcuddy to the beat grades. Yeah. The another ocean city can I just started writing down. I was like, oh, and I don't have to research a lot because I just started writing down started writing down. No, Alan, do you know the term shubis? Have you encountered that? Oh wow. I don't think so.

This is probably like a hundred year old thing. Shubis were the name for day trippers who would come down to the beach because they used to be a train from Philadelphia. They used to be like a train or a trolley sort of thing and people would pack their lunches in a cardboard shoebox. And if so, you knew they were shoebox. Oh my god. How have you now revealed this to us before you would know recognize shubis because they have the cardboard lunch boxes. So they got the name.

The day trippers got the name shubis. Shubis. Wow. So you'd have to, okay, wait. So a shubis is just somebody who brings their lunch in a shoebox that's coming to the pier for a day. That's the origin of it. But now it's kind of like I feel like the locals call the people who come. You know, is it all derisive? That's what I was. Is this a line or should we be bleeping this term? Shubis. It's like siss on Twitter. You're next to everything. You can't say it anymore.

Can't even say shubis anymore. I go up and I can go and say shubis in the month. Along with us. And that comedy is back. Comedy is back. I do stand upsets and I say shubis and the whole audience is silent. I don't know what's going on. It never gets a laugh PC. But I think it's like, oh, people don't know. Or it's like, oh, they don't know to go to mancoes, some mancoes for the best pizza. Or they don't know that you need beach tags to get on the beach. So these are kind of like rooms.

Yeah. These are naive people that come down. Well, for one day, they don't know this fucking place. They don't even, yeah. Yeah, they're eating the wrong shit. They have, they're fucking lunch in a shoebox. Get out of here. Where are the people who live here? We know what the real stuff is. Alan, you know, I mean, you've been enough. You know about the beach tag. Oh, now we learned about the beach tag. Is Alan a shubi though? I don't know anymore. I'm not even more. I'm probably more.

Now, at one time, I hate to say it. I'm really inflattered with that compliment. It seems like it's, at one point, you had to have been a shubi. Oh, of course. I mean, you gotta be a shubi, not be a shubi. You were getting mocked behind your back by these locals. I still feel, no, I mean, it's the, I don't know if I'll get to an honorary. You know, not local stats, but you know, I feel, I don't want to presume anything, but I do feel more comfortable there.

I am aware of the beach tags, although I often forget them, but that is a thing that's like the moment you get there, you know, the relatives are passing the beach tags around your shoes, you're sticking it, you're pinning it to a towel or your backpack or whatever. Yeah, what are these two? These are little like, I don't even know which call it. It's like, like almost like bottle capsize or something.

Yeah, bottle capsize, good way to put it, but it's really like sturdy like paper kind of finally, like, it's like a pin you wear, you pay to access the beach. And this is kind of split. Like the beaches are free and wow, because it's like half a mile to the water. The beach are a lot smaller than the ocean city.

So to pay for upkeep and like, just maintaining the beaches, a number of towns, Cape May comes mind ocean city, you have to buy a beach tag, you can buy them for a day or for a week or for the season. And you just got to show it. There's usually a board teenager at most entrances and you just show it. And then sometimes there's beach tag people walking around the beach like, Hey, can I say your beach tags?

You know, and if like you walk, yeah, if you just walked on and sat down and you didn't know about them, they'll sell you a beach tag. Okay. But maybe that's why that kid got stabbed or whatever, because they didn't have a beach tag. Oh, maybe his soul beach tag. In which case, I mean, how can you know, what else you're going to do? Yeah, yeah, a little bit. Isn't there a Cape May Cafe? I don't think so. I just haven't this week. Sorry to make a joke with that.

I hope you forgot from the stabbing. Is there a Cape May Cafe at the beach club? Yeah, there is the Cape May Cafe and that is above faith. It's the New York tellers. Yeah, the New York hotel. So is that why you like the beach club so much? Is because it kind of reminds you. We just like to see food buffet. My family was big like fish family. You were a big fish family. My parents liked, you know, the shrimp and crab legs and that sort of thing. Yeah. Then you're watching big fish.

I'm always, yeah, I'm always constantly watching big fish. I remember that I saw big fish the day it came out and it we did a double feature where we saw big fish and 21 grams and that we did it. You know, we were just excited for Oscar, Louis Louis nerds at high school and thankfully we saw 21 grams first. So big fish really helped cut the edge, take the edge off. Wow. Wow. If you'd done 21 grams and then seen big fish, that would probably would have put a jaw on. No, no, that's what we did.

21 grams. If you literally did 21 grams to pregame for big fish. Yeah, yeah, of Taffy. Not enough. I got a high Taffy town. I'm going to have two souls in my body. It wasn't going to be made of Taffy. There's also, there's a whole other term, Benny too. You got Shubi and then you got Benny. I'm just, there's an Alice obscure article. It says, are you a Shubi or a Benny? I'm having trouble figuring out Benny. Benny's just like, people fucking people called me Benjamin come down here.

Is that what it is? I think so as far as I could, I'm not reading this terribly carefully but yeah, I think or it's people who come to the shore to soak up beneficial rays. Thus, Benny's, that seems like just stretch. People want beneficial things for their body. I don't know, Benny's D. I'm a Benny. It's a strange, it depends on where you are. Apparently in Michigan, you call them fudgees. People come in, just all they want is the fudge and then they want to leave. This is like fucking fudgees.

This is like Halleys and Hawaii or something like that. I guess, maybe. What is that one? Yeah. Halleys is like, you're not, you're not a native to Hawaii or your native, native blood, like indigenous to Hawaii. Anybody out of that mostly white guy's like me would be a house. Yes, for anyone. Yes, for virtually, for virtually, for anyone visits Hawaii, yes, for all Halleys. There's apparently, apparently there's a version in, in jaws, they make one up for that jaws. Oh really?

What's the jaws town? Hamid. Hamid. Yeah, the summer dinks they say. Yeah. Everybody, people who pop into Hamid, and don't even care about the rich Hamid culture, the summer dinks. There is a connection between Ocean City and Southern California in that Pasadena and Ocean City both have due to operate. Oh, warmer than due to operate. Yeah. Right. Yeah. What is that about? What is that about? It's silly parade. It doesn't off season thing in Ocean City.

They used to have like a famous, they would have a famous grand marshal every year. Like I think Mickey Rooney was at least one dude up or a grand marshal in Ocean City. But this year, it was a guy, I think, used to play for the flyers. So, a little less exciting, I mean, probably exciting. I think it was mostly partially rained out the due to operate. Are they considered sister cities Pasadena in Ocean City? I don't think so.

Can we get you to be the grand marshal of one of these due to operate? I would die if I was a grand marshal of the Ocean City. We could get out of this thermite. This gotta be possible. It's kind of the star caliber and get ready because I'm gonna say some of the names that we all love to hear. I love to hear the Roonies in there. Super sales. This is the Maradena one. This is Ocean City. Larry Storch, we just talked about. So from F Troop. Oh, okay. Of course. So from 70 years ago.

I don't know. I mean, as much as I law Jason Furze. You think he's not big enough? Being Park podcast fam. He's no Larry Storch. But he's not a journalist. He's still statistics. But these are all people that died 30 years ago. Well, not Larry, you died a couple years ago. But Jason doesn't have a leg up on them and that he didn't die 30 years ago. He's alive. Yes. Being alive, that's a number one on the resume. Right. Got that going. But I did not play for a tri-state area sports team.

But you managed your high school's football team now. I did. And I don't think this season went that well. It's my memory. Well, but that's how much is that your fault, though? I mean, you know, like, well, I told them I was, Alan, what you would know, what do you call the little orange thing you put the football on to kick? Oh gosh. Well, I wasn't the kicker, but I should know this. It's not a T, but maybe it's something like that. We did this the other day. Yeah, we could have figured out.

But if anybody should have known this, I hate to say it. You know, like, okay, you run out and put the stand out there. And I would always just not be paying attention because football's kind of boring. Maybe they call it a shoot. I don't really know how it's played very well. Were you too slow putting the stand out? So it's a similar thing to Alan. Yeah. You guys are kind of equivalent area. I was a bit of a molasses boy. Wow. Both of us in city, the two molasses boys could go. A bad boy.

A bad boy. If you'd been in the same game. All right. Now, manager, go set up the first name, what the thing is, and then go put it out. I'll just grab it. I'll name it later. Then slow run out to the middle of the field. Okay, last boy, get in there. Take the kick. Slow, lock out to the... We would have lined it up perfectly. Yeah. Wow. There's still time. You're going to get you guys on the field to go back. We want to go back. I got to go back. The slowest game ever played.

Yeah. Alan, let me ask, because we mentioned the amusement parks. My memory, I feel like Ocean City, and maybe Stacy's family does this to it where it's like, oh, we go here. We don't get there. We go to Minkos for pizza. We don't go to preps, or it's like, oh, no, preps is better. You got to go there. Does your son have a preference between playland and wonderland? That's a great question. I do believe that Stacy's family is more of a mango family. Yeah, Minkos always comes up.

I would say that right now, and this could just be an age thing, that he's more of a... Sometimes, I mix him up gillians, like the one that looks like the castle, the top gillians. Because I feel like the majority of the rides there are more geared towards smaller kids, that's the place that he's more inclined to go. Then when we go to the bigger one, which is... Playland. Playland. That's got a little bit more faster rides and stuff like that there, I think.

This is so funny to say that, because when I was growing up, playland was the one for little kids and wonderland was the one for big kids. Now, it's swapped. I'm like, oh, yeah, playland does have a lot of big rides now. It's a little crazy walking around there, because they've built a lot of things on top of other things. There's a lot of rides packed into a smaller area. Yeah, there's coasters going from different rides that are just right next to each other. Yeah. Flying by.

And right next to hotels, it's probably like that right across the alley. Rattling windows? Yeah, rattling windows for sure. So they've kind of jammed in coasters that there was a modest layout of little kid rides, but then they've had to court the adult market. So they just kind of like, all right, whatever you should free space, free space, it's a coaster now. And wonderland is still pretty spread out. A lot of kid rides. Definitely a lot of kid rides, yeah.

Yeah, Monterey, a small little, it's a train. It's like a rip off Thomas, but on a Monterey. It's always been a rip off Thomas, but it's like what, 20 feet in the air, it goes above the park, which is very cool. Why would Thomas do that? That's strange. Don't worry about it. My son is all about the logic of Thomas. He's the most logical train player I've ever seen. He'd be so bothered that he was up in the air.

The rip off aspect is, and the kind of the non, I mean, there's almost, there's no real IP there as far as I can tell. It's all sort of faint representations of things that you kind of know or have heard of, you know, like something and that's like a, just a structure that they can run across with a bridge called Raiders Arc. That's a pretty hard ride. I love that. I love that. As a kid. It's not specifically, there's no end to you. There's no end to you. There's no end to you.

There's no end to you. There's the Lost Ark, but like you're on, there's the ride that you're on the arc of a Raider. And if so, why does a Raider have an arc? It's like a fun hat. It's like there's rope bridges and tunnels and that. Yeah, but I'm sorry. It's a logic. There's like a logic in your brushing. A lot of the giant hairbrush mural. There's like a worm one. I forget what it's called, but it looks like the worm from like Allison Wonderland or something. It's not the caterpillar.

The caterpillar, you mean the caterpillar, sorry, the caterpillar, not a worm. It might be a worm that looks like a caterpillar. In their world it's a worm. Yeah. Who go, but he has like a joint instead of a who go. But like my favorite ride is there's like a haunted ride or a who go. Yeah, that's new in the last few years. I watched a ride through that a while ago and it's pretty good. A haunted dark ride. It's very effective. It's really good. It's like a fair and sunny is still haunted by it.

Two years later when he wrote it when he was five and now. And because this is he we're going to go I don't want to time stamp this episode. Oh sure. But we will be going this summer back to Ocean City. Oh great. And so I was asking him like what do you think about that haunted dark ride? You want to get back on there? He's like oh, I don't know dad. I don't know. Really? Wow. He was like one of his little cousins in front and the the seats on that are reminiscent of the haunted mansion.

Kind of high back chairs. This is a fine Jersey true tradition of intellectual property theft. But like don't worry about it. He's kind of say it. There is a last few years. There is a candy shop called Candy Land that just uses giant like Disney. It just uses Disney. It uses the Disney like handwritten font. Oh. It just has like giant photo, you know print printouts of the castles and stuff in the store. Wow. How close can we get? That's crazy.

Yeah. This ride is just called a haunted house dark ride. I think it's like they don't really they don't put too much on. That pretty much gets the whole message across it's dark. It's scary. Yeah. Kids are likely scared by the horrible metal noises that affordable basic animatronics make. Yes. They're natural creaking and screeching. Yeah. In addition to like the copyright free haunted house music and screams and stuff. Yeah. But there's skeletons, there's clowns, the glow from the dark.

There's things I believe there's maybe even a couple of times you get wind blown at you. Oh yeah. Yeah. So. There's a lot of screaming from what I saw just like loud scream in which case I was screaming like yeah, a little five year old, of course, is going to be. I hate you. That's just a sitting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I see Ben on like haunted mansion and like a Disneyland and stuff too. No. No. I hate to tell y'all. Y'all really this might turn the tables on me.

We have not been to Disney World Disneyland. We get this is like his exposure to amusement parks is something along the lines of this or like a state fair kind of quality of stuff. But at that age also, it's you know. So I really, so I think he's really going to appreciate it. I'm sort of like, I justify going like I really want him to remember it when we go. You know, like, sure. Oh sure. Yeah. Well that's, I feel the same way about on my like hardcore fandom scale.

I say the same thing about going to Tokyo, doesn't he? But like we were, you know, like I've been talking about maybe going to like universal within this summer and he, we were listening in the car not too long ago to y'all's, you know, universal, it's the Mario Land episode. Oh yeah. In episode. I'm sorry if we cursed. Oh yeah. No, I did have to like kind of. Car. Car. And I'm sorry if I said something that I was attracted to Chase Meridian from Batman Forever or something. You do explain that.

I'm going on. I'm running on for like 15 minutes. Very graphic. I mean, he really loved it. He really liked it. He really liked hearing y'all recap it and talk about it. You heard the show and enjoyed that. What? He enjoyed the show. It's fun. He's kind of into podcasts, you know. Wow. You know, I do have to be careful and you guys don't have to edit yourself or do anything. Like obviously it's for whoever, you know, it's, this is a very explicit show. Very, very explicit.

That's how we're labeled on the Apple. I'm going to get that. We are new. They, their emotions have the e next to we have the e. The e. Yeah. We're going to have the e. It's bad parenting on my part. But the topic was so juicy for us that, you know, we're excited to get into these things. Now that he's like really. Yeah, yeah. And his honor to appreciate it. Did he like, did he ask how old we were and say like, well, see, these guys are like closer to my age, right? Should they sound so young?

Like if they're not kids, then they are just barely not kids, right? Yeah, no, this is like, I mean, it's often like me going something like these are, these are some of dad's friends are like, or you've met this one guy before, you know, such and such as birthday. You know, and so he, so he vaguely, I don't know what that's like to have some sort of a tangential connection. Yeah. You know, you're not a media you're listening to or watching, you know, as a kid, but other than dirty dancing.

Anyway, that's that's generally how I kind of describes. And there's one of one of daddy's friends shows is not appropriate because there's a lot of talk about sucking your own dick. You can't, you can't play all of them. Also. Yeah. That's for daddy. Some of daddy's friends just do it for a little mick has a little mouth. Says some naughty words.

In the topic of like in the area of kind of like rip offs, to me, the juiciest thing, not knowing anything about this park, was discovering something in Gillian's Wonderland Pier, and that is that there is a little area where you can put in a dollar and you can activate an animatronic band that is clearly a re-skinned Chuck E. Cheese robot band. And you guys are both familiar with the do you run into this too Mike? I saw a picture of you. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. So cool.

I mean, like I judge a lot of these places on like, yeah, I don't expect a place like this to have animatronics, but it's certainly a bonus. It's a cool, it's like, all right, well, now we're talking. And this thing, so yeah, you can like activate, you know, you've, you've, you've guys have seen them, but here they are. They're on kind of like a little western porch and they are called Rocky in the railroad ramblers. So good.

Yeah. Cause they're right up, you, you had to go up a level to board the railroad that goes around the park. That's. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it, it is just so evident. If you're into these characters as we are, it's so obvious that it, they just, it's like the same facial shapes as the Chuck E. Cheese and they just put new felt on them or whatever. Um, the, they took Chuck E. Yeah. And they put new skin on.

There's going to be a lot more of that, I feel like because of, they're going to, because Chuck E. Cheese has got to get rid of a lot of their, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They haven't smashed them all. Yeah. Yeah. They have to kill them. They're like a lot of enough. They have to, you have to separate the head from the spine and it has to be like, they, like Wolverine, you're killing a little terminator. Yeah. You have to kill Wolverine in the comics.

You have to like separate his head off his body, but then like you have to separate his body from, like so they don't, he doesn't grow back. Because he's a healing power. Right. So similar to the Chuck E. Cheese robots. Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's the same, it's the same gestures and they are all, they're, their limbs are contorted such that they should be holding instruments that they are not. So they're clearly like gesturing as if they're playing the keyboards or a guitar.

But it's just that they have severely bent. They just look mangled. Yes. Yeah. They're playing pantomint instruments. They're good to our, because, um, let me quickly go through. Sure. Uh, uh, okay, here's, here's, here's equivalence. Uh, uh, okay. So again, the band, it's not Munch's make believe band. It's Rocky in the railroad ramblers. Uh, Chuck E. is Rocky the panda. Helen Henney is Henry at a hat pin. Miss, Mr. Munch, the monster one is Bubba.

This part, he tells the dog is Hank the Dalmatian and Pesquale, the pizza chef is Antonio. He's just all, he looks like an old mayor. He, they can't, because I think the mustache is built into the mechanics. So he has to still have a mustache. So they just, they just made him old. They didn't get too far from the original characters. They're just like one little like generation removed. Still a bird in a dog. Chuck E. That changes the most.

He might actually, Chuck E. might have the face of, or one of them has the face of that Elvis one. Oh, the king. Yeah, the king. Wow. You should know we know a lot about these. Do you, do you think there's a way to track where that can't, like I wonder if there was a, it was a showbiz pizza or a Chuck E. cheese that was like closed down and why in fact, 90s or something. That is exactly what it is. It, it actually was one that I think closed and was fully done in the 80s.

It was like an early went on there. Yeah. Didn't have the Chuck E. cheese license anymore, but the restaurant somebody came in, redid that I think I'm getting all this right that it was the Chuck E. cheese band. Then it closed. Then some other enterprising people came in and said, well, this is, you got a perfectly good band here. We'll build a restaurant around it. And this, I think this is all in scranton. Okay. And there was a, there was a place called Zach Perry Winkel's pizza.

Wow. So, these are multi generation. They have been through multiple, it started as the Chuck E. cheese characters. Now it is rocking the row of ramblers in the middle. It was whatever Zach Perry Winkel's panda band. I don't know what it is. Let me do it. I have to do this list again. Chuck E. cheese was Zach Perry Winkel. Helen Henney is Henrietta Hen. Stayed Henrietta. Wow. Jazz Procedurelles, Dudley Dog. Pascuali is, was Pasta Pete. I really like that one. And then my absolute favorite.

Mr. Munch, the monster used to be thirsty Jones. The best porn name. I've heard in a long time. Wow. That's great. I wish we could get some old robots and just change the characters a little bit. That would be so fun. I think you're invent our own. Sure. Yeah. We're not going too far from the originals. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great talk show band like to have a talk show. Oh, yeah. That's a really good idea. That's a good idea. Especially in the bands disappear.

The first thing that talk shows are losing is the band. And that's a, so you can't be, you know, we can't pay humans anymore. Right. Why not? But then it's boring. Just play pre-recorded music. No, put some AI into the animatronic. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then now we're cooking. Wow. It's enough to say like, ha ha. Yeah. Trump is screwed. You have to eat your small rock every day. What? That was one of the AI Google results when people are trying to get it to do it.

It's said like someone asked how many rocks should I eat every day? Because Google is broken right now. Yeah. Google is broken. So like you can find people like if for certain AI prompts, you can ask questions like, is it okay to eat glass? And it says like, yes, it's okay to eat like one liter of glass a day. So like there's all these errors going on when you like search things. The funniest was someone asked like, how do you make pizza or how do you keep cheese from falling off pizza?

And they're like, you know, it could be too much sauce or not enough cheese. Try putting some glue in the pizza and cutting the top of this. Used me a Buzzfeed. I think is that business inside her now. It's a very funny reporter. She made the glue pizza. She got... She made Google's glue pizza. She made the glue pizza. She got like non-toxic, like Elmer's glue and put it mixed it in the sauce and made the pizza. But she eat it? She did. Oh. Oh, wow. For the pizza.

It's like, well, it smells a little chemically cooking. But she made the glue pizza. Really taking their work for it with that non-toxic. Yeah, really. You can really trust the Elmer's people. What about all the people that are doing that not ironically? Oh, yeah, it's just because they look for... Making glue pizza because they were looking for the recipe and then... Yeah. That's why my pizza is not tasting right. A lack of glue. She really wrote a prep store. I think she actually, not Elmer.

She used like the up and up, the target house brand version of Elmer's non-toxic glue. Oh, interesting. So kind of bold. The kind of bold going with the... So is that open up like the rouse? It's like the sauce that you spring for. Yeah. You're going to get bit by the right glue. The glue makes the pizza. I think that's where Francesca Ronaldo, which is an East Coast O'Brien, Alan, you mentioned like, oh, there is not a lot of IP here.

But there is a mascot for Gillian's Wonderland for many years. Wonder Bear. Yeah. And... A song? There's Wonder Bear. Wonder Bear. A female, either partner or girlfriend or wife or stuff. Or stuff. I don't know. I don't want to... I don't want to assume. You don't want to label it. Yeah. This is way it's it's Wonder Bear's go-printer part relationship. It's a long term relationship. Yeah. Did you find the name of the girl bear? No. Her name is Landy. Landy, isn't it? Whoa. Landy.

Landy, an honor of the man who saved Brian Wilson. No. Dr. Landy. Dr. Landy. But Wonder Bear and Landy, I was like, all right, when you get the land, that might be a lack of imagination. It just confused me. Yeah. I like it, I guess. I just don't know where it is. I mean, it's from place. It's from Wonderland. It's from place. From Wonderland. Oh, it's from place. It's from Wonderland. Oh, Landy. Landy. I didn't put that together. It's so basic.

It's just looking at the other half-dad line around. Landy. I still missed it. From Landy. Wow. She's a girl bear who loves land. It's like a land bear in. She may not like being so close to the sea given that she's a little bit worse. She's named after a piece of like family property or whatever. Oh, yeah. Interesting. Yeah. No, just let you have stacked generations deep. Well, yeah. The current generation, Jay Gillian, was a little busy peeing of the mayor.

The mayor, or else in the ocean city. Okay. Yeah. A number of Gillians have been mayor. Oh, so this is in the early ocean city. There's a history of got they control that park and they control the town. The Gillians, I feel like my dad will ask you years of it. Like, well, Gillians might have some backtax it. It seems like there was talk of sheriff's auctions. It seems like it always gets resolved, but it's like, thank God.

Is this, this looks like Gillian and one of the rides you can ride inside Gillian's guts? Well, no, are you talking about wonder bear or is that wonder the bear or is somebody is there a different bear than Gillian? No, Gillian is the family. Gillian's not a bear. Gillian's the family. I don't know that. Oh, she's one of the bear. Yes, I mean, that might be a ride called the bear affair. I got that. It's not a bear affair. So that's a wonder bear and you can go inside wonder bear's guts.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And have a bear affair. That's kind of weird. You can get up inside wonder bear and have a bear affair. I guess it's not that weird. It's like a lot of my side. It's like a city inside world. You're in sitting inside Dumbo and Disney. So I guess it's not that weird that you're like inside the character. Yeah, but it's also nice. It's almost like you're close to your riding on top of them. This is you are in a hollowed out stomach. Yeah. Right.

And now we've put the cloak of a fair over it as well. There's a lot going on in bear affair. It's like, yes, it's like wonder bear has been killed. His guts have been extracted from its body. There's a hole in its chest. And now you're getting to ride in there with your family. Do you have a rear of the ride? It's going to be a shit of a shit of pated staxes. This is a revenant situation. Oh, yeah. They could call it revenant the ride. This is like a mech suit situation.

Now that you get in there and then they just gets up and they walk around the big old wonder bear. Don't tell the teen gangs there's mechs suits. Oh, no. They can stab a lot more efficiently than. So there is, Gillians is just like a block away from Ocean City High School. So like they're asking for it then. The kids, I mean, well, yeah, the kids like, that's wild. It was always wild to me. Like, oh, they go to high school by the boardwalk. That's so cool.

They go to high school by an amusement park and like beach volleyball. That would be cool. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of it's iconic looking when you see it. It's like the first big thing you see on the, if you're coming from that direction. Like which if I usually are our path is like maybe something like people, somebody we've gotten, we've gone to like, there's a restaurant called Oves. Oh, my family loves Oves. Yeah. Who doesn't love Oves? It's delicious.

Yeah. Everybody loves Oves. You got Oves. The boardwalk is kind of narrowed and then you walk from there, you walk off whatever you had and then it kind of boardwalk kind of gradually widens out and then boom. There's, there's Gillians right there.

But one time last time we were there, sunny started kind of doing, there was like a family dinner there at Oves and there's like a big balcony and you see you can see over the boardwalk and then my son went out to the boardwalk and started like dancing around on the boardwalk for some reason, just being a cute five year old dancing around and his cousins were up on the balcony like cheering him on like, yeah, yeah. And then some people walked by and they threw him a dollar.

Wow. Wow. The star and showbiz career. There are a lot more buskers like it says that city approved buskers along the boardwalk playing saxophone or keyboard or there's a lot of full bands on like family nights. Along. I got a sunny a permit or something like that. Yeah, yeah. We can watch have those beach tags and watch that. Make sure your son is permitted for his own beach tags with his dance. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, for his own buckets and like shovels for the beach, just time for them to work. But basically remember that dance from last time get down there. A fair way. Does he like the because Gillian's Wonderland known for the massive Ferris wheel and that's kind of like an icon of ocean city does he like it? Oh, yeah. No, he loves the Ferris wheel. Okay. Love that Ferris wheel. I mean, that's the best way to like get the birds eye view of the whole like. Yeah. Uh, uh, yeah.

I mean, that's that's how you get only other tall thing is like there's landers are portacle. Yeah. Yeah, there's like a couple of tall rides, you know, but this is the one the most kind of serene view. And especially at sunset or at night when everything lights up, you know, it's really pretty way to see the city and all those beautiful old houses that are over there. Full of the mean people they're judging you.

Yeah. Full of people that have gotten their liquor from across the bridge and they're just sitting out on their porches. Yeah. Judging you. Yeah. What are the night? What are you doing when the what are the evenings when when the pier is closed? What are you doing? You're just like folks are like riding their bikes up and down, you know, taking walks. A lot of walking all I feel like Oves is in the fine tradition of like Jersey Shore.

Like you get a platter so you get soup and salad, soup or salad sometimes and you're on tray occasionally dessert. So it's a lot of food and it's all fried food. It's like besides the corn on the cob, it's french fries or baked potato and fried fish or a broiled fish, which is kind of flavorless. It's the person where it's nothing. That's like a lot of food. So yeah, you walk it off, you eat a big fish dinner and then you walk the boards to walk it off. And Oves is also a bicycle rental place.

It's bicycle rental and like donuts. And I think it started that way maybe. Yeah. Yeah. It was like mostly a bicycle rental and like the guy had a grill and then it became a board of like a restaurant but it's also a bicycle rental. Yeah. So he's like, I'll take my grill to work today. Everybody needs anything? Business started. Bring the George Foreman out. I know. That's what it's started 20 years ago.

I don't know if this is on the Ferris wheel but you know, like you get like the incidents page of these places and I never, you know, I never want to go too much into the, you know, deaths or grim things that happen. I don't think there's any deaths here. No, there are. Oh, no, I know the story of the fire. Oh, right. Constant fires. If you build very old. Every, every, the locals know as long as you're not a shoebie, you know, there's a fire every day.

If you have very old buildings with very old electrical setups next to a wooden board walk, you're going to have some fires, you know. Remember, whenever these places come up with you, you have a lot of concern. It's always going to flood. The ride's going to fall into the, you're like, you're, I think you're like concerned generally about the side amusement park. Yeah. Well, the Jersey Shore is subject to hurricanes some of the year. I've had, I've seen a number of fires.

There was a fire when I was in elementary school at this place, Fisherman's War, which was like my favorite shop, I mean, it was mostly at the time like seashell, knickknacks, and Simpson's toys, because it was 1992. And they weren't using reputable factories back then. So those, those, those, those shoes, those light up, uh, when I was a flashbacker, a full of lighter fluid. This was the worst made barnies I've ever seen. There was, there was one, uh, course brothers ice cream.

There's number of those on the boardwalk, I don't know, the family likes, course frozen custard. There's like, yeah, multiple of those multiple ones. There's a little one of the adkillians. Right. Yeah. Is that the place where, is it cores where they do like the flattened ice, they like flat when they're mixing? No, the rolled ice cream. That was, that was like a trend that popped up one summer. And it was gone as quickly as it had rocked. That's right.

Yeah, I was looking for the rolled ice cream. We had cores which is delicious. Yeah. Yeah. I think you like the roll ice cream. It was kind of a fun novelty thing. Yeah. I hate to say it's a, I don't know. The way it sounds to me, this rolled ice cream sounds like some shoe be shit. Lash in the pan, go in one summer and out the next. That's a real Jersey shore that where it's like pops up and either becomes ubiquitous like dip and dots.

I remember when they showed up and then they, you know, became everywhere. They stayed, they had what it took tasting terrible. They actually got their, the foothold somehow. There was a movie theater there too that I don't think was working last time we were there, but it was broken. The Moorland Terrace was bought by a local chain and it's slowly being redone. It's supposed to reopen.

And the other movie theater that was down the block in town became the big man going to Manico Pizza headquarters. Oh, it was a shitty family fun center that kept one or two movie screens going. And then the pizza, you know, she watered out. None of these businesses started, they all, none of them started as what they became. This is a place where you can like, they can just start something, just get something going and then it turns out, no, I sell T shirts.

I, you know, I thought I was selling beach tags, but now I sell Taffy. But you can always kind of see the remnants of what was there. Skeletons are in the corner. Still hanging out. From when they thought they were a skeleton manufacturing company, like open to a movie theater, but I actually just turned into a place that makes kettle corn. It's a, let's you grow. Let's you change. Let's evolve this place. I was going to say from the incidence page, just this one, the nonfatal thankfully.

In June 2007, the park was closed for two hours after a 17 year old girl had fired shots from a 22 caliber gun and went into a sand dune from one of the beers rides. Thankfully, just into a sand dude. And you're like, what's going on? What did this 17 year old? What did she, what was she mad about? Turns out, investigated that she just found it on a seat accidentally dropped by an off-duty cop. What? We saw them. We saw them. Left their gun on the Ferrets wheel.

Oh, God. Oh, my God. Oh, this is something straight out of brickleberry. We had a funny incident, which I was like worried about at the time, but it is in hindsight. When Sunny was a very little baby, we went to, this wasn't a violent. It was like, at just one of the little stores on the boardwalk, you know, old, you know, old timey photographs? Oh, yeah, that old timey photo place has been there forever and ever.

And it's great because you know, it's like you get a family photo and everybody's like, we're all old timey things. Old timesy. We're gangsters. Yeah, gangsters. Yeah. So, there was like a, we were getting all the little cousins together and at this time, Sunny must have been like one year old or something. So some of the, the, the, one of the nieces, I think, was like pointed to a picture. There was a variety of choices and it's like, let's do the pretty flowy dress thing.

And so that was from in the category of like an old South portrait or whatever. So they start getting their gear on and the girls have these big flowy like dresses on and then there's the boys putting on soldier outfits. Oh, yes. He's in a little Lord Fautleroy thing and they're kind of getting in the pose and the photographers setting up the thing and, and then nothing's dawning on me and I'm from Alabama until the photographer unfurls the Confederate flag. Oh, yeah.

And I was like, whoa, whoa, hey, hey, he's going on over here. And he's like, oh, it's an old South portrait. I'm like, oh, can we, can we just do, can we do the version without the ocean one? It's a jail saloon backdrop. Yeah, yeah, like the saloon thing with the chimneys perfectly. Doesn't make any say these people wouldn't be at a saloon. They're not at the same. This is Antibellum and they're from the old West. They were, it's okay. I'm not worried about accuracy here. It's okay.

I mean, and that was just like, that's the Jersey Shore. Like, this is the old South. These are, we're hitting all the little traits of the old South thing and they're not wrong. But it was just like, and if you look through the photo book, yeah, there's a lot of like families that are like, we're old South. They're, we're like, I'm like, I'm like, but anyway, it was like, it was just the funniest thing because it was just like, oh, yeah, all the cousins are about to be in this photograph now.

But it's like, with the weird ass photo early. Which is, that would damn him forever. He could be running for, obviously, well, not be running for some offices. Some kind of type of councilman one day. Yeah. Yeah, but it was just like, one of the funniest things. Like, oh my god. Wow, wow, why did they have, I know why they, wait, except it's wait, but it's, it's Jersey that like, that's so weird that they would, it's just sort of weird. Yeah, there's a weird.

I wouldn't say there for it or races or I think they were just like, these are the touchstones of the old South. I think there was a time. Yes, we're like, I mean, everyone's always had the agenda of the Confederates of meaning something very specific. But like, I think there were also it was just like the flag was around as a, that equals South. And that, yeah, yeah. I just ran into, you got like me coming in there. Hey, what's going on?

I'm part of it in here, putting all of your kids and cousins into giant puffy font dresses. And then you raise a fuss about the Confederates flags. I just watched, okay, so there's an old, there's a full house where a pop star comes to visit Stephanie for birthday. I didn't think I've seen that. It's a guy named Tommy Page. It who seems like made up. That seems like a fake guy. But I like to know it's a real guy and I'm looking up the Tommy Page music videos. What was his deal?

All right, here's his song, Shag. Okay. And watch this music video and by the course kicks in and he's Tommy Page's Bustin moves in front of a Confederate flag. What is this? Why? I think it's a song from a movie called Shag that maybe takes place in the South and thus, but it was really disconcerting. I did not expect this around this corner. Just a cool, you know, like a Rick Gassley style guy and he's a Bustin moves in front of old food.

I found that Chuck E. She's clip from like the early 90s where there are flashing flags and the different federate flag flies up on that. We talked about that in the episode. I think there was a time where you just people were just like, this is iconography of a thing that it doesn't. So they're sort of an innocence about that to them that does that. To them, yeah. That's like, you know, and then as people started, you know, like maybe not a good symbol. Yeah, now more context about that.

You know, they're surrounding it. You're like going like, maybe we'll find some other, maybe an old oak tree. Maybe. That's all I can't think about. What's the most innocuous? I don't know. No, no, no, no, no. Freeze branches could be bent in an offensive shape. Oh, here we go. There's always something. Oh, it could be bad. One of the six, one of the six flags, at least initially was a Confederate flag. Yeah. That's a boardwalk T-shirt shop scaled back.

They just replaced all the like Rick and Morty with Confederate flag. They're like, oh, just make it the supreme logo. Don't worry about it. We do not have the license for this. But Rick and Morty and Goku can wear this supreme logo. What do we miss? What are fun details? I mean, this is all been super fun stuff to talk about. And it's very relaxing to, I don't know, just even here about the nice and the pizza place in it.

I don't know these places, but I'm walking around and stealing your popcorn or whatever you may have in your hand. Oh, I will say my, I will shout out my favorite ride, which is at the other, the other place, not Gale Forest. At Playland. Yeah. Yeah. The Gale Forest. That's, that's, that's the big roller coaster. Oh, okay. It's kind of a, like, advanced coaster, right? Like it's, it's, it's sort of a good one for being a, yeah.

It's, it's like, I forget X number of tickets, where you buy $10, just to ride it. And I rode it a few years ago and it's like a real, I think, intimate coaster. And it rocked my shit. Like I was not prepared for Gale Forest. Gale Forest don't get yours to construct. And then it opened and they, some stuff was installed wrong. So then it went down for months and months.

But. And it's where we were talking about fires in early 2021, right before we were about to record the episode with Avery Monson. I learned about, there was a massive fire burning on the boardwalk and it was at Playland. And they're still reconstructing their like entryway arcade and stuff. But he totally destroyed my family's beloved hamburger construction company. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, and so it businesses close her flip because it's like, well, a lot of the comic stores closed because the comic bubble burst, the collectible bubble burst in the 90s. A lot of the bookstores closed. They're still the book. A theory that you spoke to are my family loves. And once it if the car, I was like, is that the fucking book a theory of van? And it was the guy and I was like, I love your books. Do my family loves your books? No, he's like the man.

Wait, sorry, the man from the book store you liked was in a van by you was in it. And then the river because his daughter was going to the college. Okay. So what was his name? I actually do not know what to say, but going there since the standbook. A theory. Yeah. But businesses flip because either bubbles burst or like fires burst fires. Certainly, well, closed businesses, bookstores, I think the Atlantic books just went bankrupt.

And yeah, trends just change gendoles, you know, can I ask a hard question? Yeah. Of you right now. You love this place. Yes. Okay. I'm the second guy. On the second day, I started asking some hypotheticals here. We'll have a giant missile launcher that can blow up a whole piece. Oh, the launcher's back. Oh no, the launcher's back. It can destroy things. I'm going to have to train my missile launcher on one thing. Tum Lagoon or the boardwalk here. Oh, fortunately, in this case, it is Tum Lagoon.

Tum Lagoon is out. All right. I have a second question though. Okay. It is now trained on either Marvel superhero island in Islands of Adventure or. Ocean City. I don't know if Ocean City is going to make it. Oh, you have to decide. I'm going to say it live independently. All right. We need an answer. The Atlantic go in. Well, I know. Just because I wore the boardwalk in the two days. What did they do? Some people just live there. All right. They are. They're mean people though.

Maybe like in their snooty about the local. They were mad at the shoe piece. If you're ever spoken ill of a shoe piece, you're in the missile back now. Well, the shoe piece. The one all the business is gone. The boardwalk gone. It's probably got to be Marvel superhero island. Wow. Wow. Marvel superhero island has been destroyed. Wow. This is like, like I said, it's like a second home. Well, that's why I was the Marvel superhero island. It's also a second home.

No. The offices of the daily whatever. Where's the man work? Daily Google. Daily Google. Those are, yeah, you do. You sleep under one of those desks. Wow. That's the second home to you too. Wow. Wow. This is like an impossible theory of that. Kobeashi Maru and Star Trek. It's a Kobeashi Maru. But you actually decided, so we're fine. It actually is. Oh, I just got to read. Oh, wait, I just had to redo the test. You cheated on the test. Oh, I didn't know I could cheat on the test. I'm a good boy.

I don't cheat. Right. So anyway, yeah, yeah, I would be very interesting. Wow. I don't know. I wanted to propose one of these with Alan, but I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to like, would, if you had to be in a missile train scenario. I don't know another, I don't know another old place that you're in dear to. I was going to say playland or wonderland, like what is Stacy's family? Where does the loyalty lie? Well, I would have to ask them to evacuate before anything.

Well, yeah, no, they get out of there. Okay. Okay. Right. Let's see. Which one would I blow up? Yeah. And it's pretty carefully guided missile because these places are close to each other. So it's not going to be a big footprint to these explosions. I guess I would probably train it on playland. I really like the iconic spires and castle. Yeah. And there's the spinning letters that spell out wonderland. Oh, really nice. I can't imagine the spinning letters. Those are really cute.

Yeah. Spinning letters. Really good. If you're looking, listen, or for a visual representation of all this, there is an Instagram account. I read they professionally do this now. I think called OCNJ drone. And they do drone photography of the island and the theme of the amusement parks. I think they've been doing a lot more, yeah, OCNJ underscore drone. Which the drone has the POV that a missile in the air would have.

You can watch the videos and go pew and pretend that you're a missile on the way to blow something up. Yeah. But also beautiful photos of like the bay and the marshland and the bridges into town. Wow. Wow. I also did a couple of years ago a little video, not an essay, I wouldn't say, but just took some photos. I got some photos on my walkin' about pod thing from a couple of years ago that I made of Ocean City. Oh, cool. I was so moved by the experience that year that I made a little.

That sounds nice. I made a video of it and took some pictures. Oh, great. You took that out. Great. This is a nice, like, it's a pleasant place that inspires nice photography and tributes which ties nicely into the pod, which we could talk about a little bit. But I get why for endless, like, just like do you anyone want to give one more out of context name of a restaurant or shop that you like? I mean, like I said, I've been coming here basically since I was born. I do have a list of.

It's awesome. A great restaurant. A nice restaurant. A nice restaurant. It's a bad afford. A chef-dose. A chef-dose. I thought this was going to go fast for then chef-dose. We got a pick apart. Chef-dose was there for, like, 50 or 60 years. It was, like, an old school kind of, like, dinner, you know, soup salad on trade as our kind of place. They would do a restaurant. They said it's a restaurant. They said it's a restaurant. It's a restaurant. They said it's a restaurant.

They said it's a restaurant. They said it's a restaurant. They said it's a restaurant. They said it's a restaurant. No, I'm saying you order and you get all that. Oh, yeah, I like it a restaurant. Yeah. No, I mean, like, that's- It comes as a me- You get it all as a meal. You get it all for one price. That was probably- That was probably- It's an inclusive- Far too much for a child to be eating. Chef-dose. Shubis don't know about chef-dose. Shubis don't know about chef-dose.

That likely closed because people either want to retire or die because they brought a fish house for 40 or 50 years. Like, yeah, that ran it. The way Roryum was a collectible story. I love growing up. Amber construction company. Green grill and Flanders grill. When Flanders grill closed, they opened the Green grill and then they wanted to retire. And I think a lot of the staff went to work at the varsity or at Reddies. And those are breakfast lunch. Well, they're bringing a rental right?

It's interesting. The Flanders, yeah, it's a massive hotel built, I think, around in the 1930s. Named after, you know, the battlefield. Flanders, contribute the field of Flanders. From World War One. Interesting. No. Not the Simpson's character. Not the Simpson's character. Not dead. No. Playland, as expanded over the years and built into what used to be the massive Flanders pool. So they shrunk the pool? They just built another pool. Okay. The first pool felt ready to retire.

It had been a pool for 50 years. This was a giant pool. You know, in the 20th century, when people would go to the seaside resorts for their health and do, you know, a bathing in the, but you'd, the sea is so rough. So people would go to bathe because they couldn't bathe at home, you mean? No, no, they could bathe at home, but like for a natural honor. Like being a purified. Yeah. I've read where there was a saltwater pool. I should know this. It might have been.

Hmm. Do they have any of the stuff Steve Harvey does? Like a red light machine now or an ice plunge? Some modern equivalents. Yeah. Yeah. Now thousands of people don't want to take a red light back together. They should have more, yeah, like a red light things on them. Oh, oxygen bars. Those were big trend on the boardwalk in the 90s. It's going to be so funny in like seven months, Mike, when we discover like red light, like red light treatment causes massive tumors.

I know Steve Harvey walked around his head bulging out. Steve Harvey's head grew five times its size. Looks better on camera. Yeah. He wanted a bit. That just matches the size of the suits. The suit's finally essential. The original to the ties. Another, I think there was like escape rooms that like I know. Oh, sure. Yeah, those have caught on the last few years. Did it work in Alien Invasion 1 or something at some point? Yeah. But restaurant I would shout out is Uncle, it's a pancake house?

Uncle Bill's pancake house. Yeah, Uncle Bill's pancakes. There's always a line. Yeah, they don't need my help line. Yeah, but they don't need this plug. But how old is Uncle Bill? 80, 85? Was he ready to die? He's ready to die. I don't know it. He might just be an idea. I don't know. He's a little cartoon man on the sign. He's an old, easy, easy, yeah. Uncle Bill? Uncle Bill. I mean, he's your old, the cartoon isn't if the cartoons are ready to die.

Well, the fish people were really ready to die. You do fish for four years or more than ready to die. Sure. Did you say you're going out there? I will probably, yeah, this summer. I think besides one summer when I was stuck in LA for work and then 2020. We said, no, no, no, no vacation, Jason. I have to say we got to do an episode about King Arthur's carousel. He's a stare. I would love to hear our 2010 episodes.

But there are only two summers I've not gone back to Ocean City since I've lived in LA. But this Uncle Bill and he's got a woman next to him. Yeah, he's, yeah, they're making pancakes. Who's the lady? Landy. Landy. Landy. Landy. Landy. Landy. Landy. Landy. They look youthful. They look youthful. They're okay. They're not ready. They're not ready to die. Um, keep them youthful. A diet of just pancakes. But we're probably ready to end here, ready to wrap it up.

But what a pleasant journey through this place. I'm so happy to say Alan McCleodie survived podcast The Ride. What a pleasant one. Let's, let's stroll on into the gift shop, is there anything you'd like to plug? Hey, check out my podcast Walking About. Um, I, uh, I love walking and hopefully, as you make clear the opposite of walks in the name of it. You can walk while you listen to it. You are allowed. You want to. And, uh, yeah, yeah. I, I got to check out the show yesterday. It's great.

It's so charming. Uh, listen to this show. You love Evanderson. I'm sure. And she was great. I want to help her forever. Cemetery. And it's, uh, just what a pleasant. I mean, you know, it's, it's fun history, but also just hanging out with you guys. And it's like the way, the way you cut it up, that it's like more like little audio documentary than, uh, than the normal podcast. I guess I just like the formatting a lot. It's very charming.

And also that you, you're like the, like interstitial narrations you do, I think are really great and funny. And the, you're with your, with your, uh, pleasant Southern lilt. I was like, and we're going to like L.A. landmarks. I'm like, we're in a little bit of like, you'll house or territory. Oh, I mean, hey, I'll take that. I mean, I, I, I mean, I, I love you. I love you. He was like the only sketch comedy character, like impersonation I ever did. You was a, oh, that makes sense. Yeah, I was.

First starting, like, at, uh, doing, like any kind of sketch stuff or character bits, like it would be, I remember I had like a sketch that we was like, I was just going into, like a restaurant, some restaurant and it was Ryan Perez was the cook and I was like bugging him as he will, you know, just because it came from the place of love. Yeah. Because I discovered he will when I moved to L.A. and I was like, oh, man, sure.

So yeah, still alive when like, because he, what are you, when do you guys, like, mid to 20 times? Maybe 10 years ago or so. Yeah, yeah. A little longer. But, uh, yeah, no, I mean, I think it's, I think it is that just, uh, you know, there's something about coming from another place and you're just the excitement you feel over, like discovering new places and stuff. Yeah. So, uh, huge, huge fan of fuel, huge fan of Rick Steves. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I love Rick Steves. I read it one more.

Rick Steves is the best. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, so I mean, yeah, there's, there's another guy that used to do like another presenter, like L.A. presenter Ralph Story who used to do stuff. So, oh, what easy, is he things that aren't here anymore? Is he things that aren't here anymore? Yes, that has come up on this show for some reason. I don't remember what it was. For, assuredly, we've talked about some things that aren't here anymore in this show.

So, yeah, I mean, you know, it's, it's definitely like, uh, I, I, I definitely like, I love all those types of, uh, formats and presentation and just kind of got to kick out of figuring out like, maybe this is a way to do it. It's sort of like an audio diary, sort of captures the sense of like a place and time, you know, and just like, uh, or a person, you know, that, that I admire or a friend, you know, like, you know, so it's just, uh, it's been really fun.

So thank you so much for checking out. Absolutely. It turned out great. I highly recommended to our audience. And I haven't gotten to hear the Mitch one, but Mitch is on it. So people you like already from our show and other shows and, uh, I'm excited, excited to check out the rest. Oh, man. Uh, yeah. Thanks for, thanks for chatting with us here. Uh, walking us through the boardwalk.

Uh, uh, as for us, uh, you can get three bonus episodes every month that podcasts the red second gate or get one more bonus episode on our VIP tier club three. We'll find all of that at patreon.com slash podcast, the ride. And because we moved on, I was like, maybe I'll save it for the end. I have to go back and say that was not the last of the re skins, Chuckie cheeses that I went through. Thank you. Thank you. There's also. Yes. All right.

Chuckie cheese fan community is like, all right, there's a little confusing because ocean city has rocky in the railroad ramblers, but that is not to be confused with rocky and the ramblin rascals, which you can find in the enchanted forest, water safari and old forage, New York. Wow. And let me speed through those in that one. Chuckie cheese becomes rocky, the rabbit. Helen, he becomes Henrietta hat pin. She's Henrietta in every.

Yeah. That's the thing the Helen test were a lot of like a very bland name to give to a lot of like female characters who don't bring a lot to the table is Helen. And I think Henrietta is maybe another really weird. Yeah. Yeah. A bland name. Let's see. Pasqualee becomes Antonio. That one's the same. Jasper T. Jowls is Jacko the donkey and munch becomes bad bonga the monkey. Oh my gosh. So we have all of these. I can't believe how much the family.

I can't wait. Yeah. Thirsty Jones is really fantastic. Yeah. I don't know how to see a picture of. I mean, Thirsty Jones is just the purple monster from Chuckie cheese, but like that. I mean, munch sounds like, I don't want pizza, but Thirsty Jones is going to be Thirsty Jones's slick. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a different vibe. And there's a mess in town. I call Thirsty Jones. Munch is a clown. Yeah. Thirsty Jones is cool. Yeah. I'll slip it up for you. Slip, slip.

I'm feeling a little thirsty. When are you not Thirsty Jones? This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gardner, Brett Bomm, Joe Silio, and Alex Ramsey.