Fixing Tomorrowland

Mom, Dad, a humbly suggest you save some money and shop Amazon for back to school. It's for my growth, meaning my body's growing at an alarming rate. And close you by me this year will be very small very soon. Plus, the clothes I love today will be out of style tomorrow. But at least your wallet doesn't have to be my fashion victim. If you shop low prices for school at Amazon. Hopefully this is helpful. Amazon, spinless, small more.

This summer, during the biggest sporting event of the year, peacock turns to two broadcasting legends for the Olympics coverage. You can't find anywhere else. Um, I think they mean us. Oh, ****. Um, uh, with an incredible duo sure to take home the comedy gold. Olympic highlights with Kevin Hart and Keenan Thompson. New episodes Monday, Wednesday and Friday, only on peacock. The year 2024, Disney lands tomorrowland is in shambles.

People move or tracks it's unused, clogging up an already narrow walkway. An arcade once vibrant and full of beeps and boobs is now a space where you can sometimes get a free button. Toward the back is an old rotating theater that rotates no longer. We're a man named John once told us about his new oven. Can this land be salvaged? Can the future be saved? We roll up our sleeves and get to work fixing tomorrowland on podcast the ride.

Welcome to podcast the ride where today we roll up our sleeves and do what the Disney corporation hasn't for over 30 years. I'm Scott Garenner joined by Mike Carlson. I'm here. It's where it's the burden we've got. I feel the weight of what we're doing today. Yes. And, you know, besides the weight of literal shovels and dirt and construction equipment, you know, there's no real way but the mental weight.

The weight in trying to figure out how to fix this problem, which I'm sure nobody in the building has even attempted never never never Jason shared an eye. You know, it was a land that we've encountered and talked a lot about like a lot of essays, a lot of writing videos talk about tomorrowland almost forgotten about, you know, um, um, uh, when Disneyland first opened like very under powered and it took a long time to add some real media attractions. Oh, that's, yes.

Well, yes, well, as we've covered this, you know, slowly sporadically, barely over the course of the last two years, the tomorrowland problem we have discovered it is a problem from the route from the get go. They just jammed a bunch of stuff in there because they didn't know what else to do. Things that were exciting at the time got out of date very fast.

There have been successful redoes overlays successful entire other tomorrowlands and other parks, but we of course are focused on the Disneyland tomorrowland, which has pretty much sucked shit since the failed redo in 1998. The redo that made everything worse and uh, it now takes us to this point where we tried to figure out how to do it ourselves, how to fix tomorrowland at Disneyland specifically. Yeah. And we've decided to do it in a unique way.

This was the thing I've, uh, uh, uh, concocted a while ago and hopefully it turns out that this was the best way to do it. But we're going to take different approaches. Each of us have a, has a different assignment. We've been, we've randomly chosen these assignments on a previous episode. Mm-hmm.

And we want, basically what the deal is is we're going to try to cover all the different ways Disneyland could fix tomorrowland with no budget at all or a barely a budget with sort of a good healthy budget and in their like normal synergenistic corporate thinking. And then we're also going to give one of us or Scott of course is going to get a blue sky, heavy big budget to do cool stuff. Yeah. Who knows what he's concocted. We don't know anything. We don't know anything.

We haven't told each other what we're doing yet. So each of us are coming at it from a different budget and a different philosophy. And different, these are very like different thought exercises. Yes. I would say. You know, like there's varying degrees of realism versus science fiction, much like tomorrowland itself.

Yes. So yeah, they're, so when we're all done here, I mean, I'm not saying we have to combine these three ideas at the end or anything, but there will be, we can probably get good stuff from all these pitches and we can really assess and all the different ways you could possibly assess how to fix tomorrow. And we will now have a full picture of it. And this is, look, we'll Disney listen and will they take any of the things we say and apply them? I don't think so, but we'll see.

Maybe they don't say anything about tomorrow and the upcoming D23 conference. Yes. And they do learn from us. I don't know. Well, that's, you know, and we are kind of in the middle of a block of episodes related to the upcoming, I think tomorrow, as of the day, this is released. The D23 horizons, Disney experiences showcase. Yes. Which rolls off the tongue, which we all have been saying as naturally as the names of our partners and children.

Yes. It, so, you know, here on horizons, Disney experiences showcase, EVE, this is an interesting juncture point, I think, to determine, you know, what if some of the stuff we say gets done, then we'll know that they didn't steal it from us because that day is frankly too much time to, too little time to turn that around.

But, or will they say nothing at all, which is something that I literally bet money on if you didn't hear the episode about betting on D23, which just happened on the second gate. I recommend that one. You can see if you agree with our assessments. If you think our money place was foolish. And then once again, on Sunday, we're going to do an early episode for that week on the main feed where we go through all of the news. We actually do get. Right. And see if it is exciting.

Is it as exciting as a blue sky version? Or does it have the hollow ring, the whole bay low budget? Well, it's going to be very interesting. There's two episodes, essentially, where we are making predictions or casting our hopes and dreams onto the Disney company. So we're really going to get to see if anything we said comes true. And that's exciting for me personally. Yeah. That's coming. We don't usually have something like this. This scenario is sort of unique.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, when an event as unique as D23 Horizons Disney Experience to show, case comes up, you have to be as unique along with it. Yes. It's going to, boy, I hope it blows the rafters. Yeah. It blows the roof off the Honda Center. Yeah. I mean, hopefully they retire Josh Demaro's suit or casual shirt, casual tyling shirt. In the rap of the rafters. Yeah. Way usually reserved for athletes or for Billy Joel in medicine square garden. Yeah. So anyways, yes.

As you said, via a randomized order, we figured out who was going to do low, mid and big. And oh, actually, let me also say really quickly that we are recording this on a day where earlier today, I sit foot on Disney property for the first time in a little over six months. Wow. I have not been down there nearly at all.

And I ended up down there for a, I mean, it was a day of fun in Anaheim, not Disney land, but that ended up with a delightful father-son lunch with my four-year-old boy at Trader Sam's. Wow. This was like, he'd never been there before. This was such a success and such a delight. Like, not in, so we were out on the patio, but getting some mile and vibes just like put me in a good place to IDA here. It reminded me of how crucial it is that we pass these places down to the next generation.

That we, that we and Disney and all of us together make it so that we have a vibrant Disney land. And that depends on a vibrant tomorrow land. I think so. And it was very, this was just resonating in my head. Another thing this reminded me of is how much I like Hazeepiase. Oh, wow. And well, one single one. Wow, you're loose for this episode. No, no, that was hours ago. No. There was, there was a nap in the intervening. Oh, wow, Jason, you're going to appreciate that. I know, I'm living it up.

Beer, nap. I'm casting with the boys on a Sunday. What a chilled out day. I, I nabbed because the heat was making me light-headed. Okay, all right. It's a nice, a nice day. I think that was probably in there for me too. It's been crazy in LA recently. But anyways, so, so that said, when we kind of digitally drew straws, Jason had the assignment of coming up with the lowest budget version. That's still, that's, it's an interesting thing because that does, it's still called fixing tomorrow.

Yeah. There still is the burden of like, you have to consider it somehow, something has to be fixed despite, and I don't know how low you mentally put your budget. And I'm excited to hear. Yeah. Cheese. We're going to have to, well, I tried my best. We're going to try to like, I somehow started getting emails that the budget was being slay. Imaginary budget was being slashed. It kept happening. So, but I, That's right. I think you put yourself through the right mental exercise. Absolutely.

Do you want me to get started? I suppose so. Yeah. So let's do it. Jason fixed tomorrow, man. I should just real quick say before like, part of our job will be sort of saying, okay, what you just proposed, maybe that seems like out of budget, or that seems out of character, maybe for the Disney. So there will be some, we'll be doing a little of sort of judging as we go, or toward the end, and then we'll have a discussion about it.

That's what I was going to say is that I think with the role of the others, in the individual presentations, I think should be to push it further in the direction that it's supposed to be in. If we feel like the low budget broke the rules a little bit, we can nudge it. Mike yours as the realism, I think, you know, probably needs the most curtailing. And if mine doesn't use enough imagination, exactly, yes, I need your help with that.

So it'll be sort of, and I think it's like, it's up to all of us individually. Do we want to just monologue for a while? Do we want feedback from the peanut gallery? It's really up to you. Yeah, we'll feel it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, you know, if Jason seems stressed. Oh, geez. You do, I know. I'm trying my best. All right, well, I'm going to go ahead and go start. Yeah, okay. All right, budget tomorrow. Oh, yes, budget tomorrow and just fair warning. I'm going low to high.

So if it seems a little not up to your speed, just just bear with me, okay? All right, go ahead. All right, first things first. You know all those planters in tomorrow land? The ones where they locate. They're all around. They've got like cabbages and they've got different bushes. The idea in 98 at some point was that all right, it's all edible stuff. Right, second, I don't remember how much they committed to that. But anyway, is it over by start tours and stuff? Like all around your side?

All around. Yeah, all around. Okay, planters. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Yes. Good news. Those planners are all getting new sod. Wow. Okay, great. Yeah. Okay. All right. The crowd's freaking. If you're tomorrow right now, they're all everybody. The audience is about to faint. Right. A G sod forms is coming through the giving us his sponsorship. No money. Oh, great. But up no money, about up to 14 bags of sod. So that's coming through. Very good. Okay. Start tours unchanged. Wait, no, I'm so sorry.

The stanchions outside. You know that really brutal extended queue in the sunlight. Right. That area is getting new ropes on the stanchions. Okay. What kind of ropes? The same nylon, but it's just a little less, you know, clawed at by like Keatshroak children. Yeah, kids wear that down. That's smart. That's good. You need that. Right. Yeah. Okay. Really good news. We're turning the orbitron back on. The kinetic sculpture that used to go off every few minutes. It's coming back.

Is it the, is it the Observatron? Oh, geez. Oh, come on. Are you thinking of orbiton from the ET adventure? The character? Or always thinking of orbiton. Is that his name, orbiton? No, look, I'm asking that to myself too, because it's said in my presentation as well. So I don't know totally. But the point is. It's back. Wow. It's coming back. They're flipping on, Swiss. Soon you'll be able to stand there and go like, what is that? Interesting.

And people around you will go, sorry, this the middle of walk. Could you keep moving? Wow. It'll confuse new generations. Yeah. That's right. And that will cost a little money. So just want to keep it in mind. I'm not saying it's out of bounds, but I think it will cost a little money to turn that back on. It eats so much. Yeah. And we got to switch out the CD player for like a Pono or something, like an MP3 player. Neil Young's Pono, is what you're saying? High quality audio. Right.

It costs $500 per player, I believe. Exactly. Okay. So that's going to be powering that. And maybe you guys sick at item, I think the whole time. So far, yeah. Because so far. Okay. How about this? Space Mountain. The giant crosshairs outside of space mound are getting a fresh coat of paint. Wow. That's good. Yeah. This is kind of a throwback to tomorrow, and 98 where much of the budget went to paint. Yes. Got it. Still crosshairs.

Yeah. It's still unsettling crosshairs that you can't get anywhere near and is taking up a lot of room. Some might say it's supposed to be like, oh, this is for a rocket. That's where a rocket with land. Got it. Yeah. But it does look like crosshairs. But a right in a rocket has never nothing interesting has. No, the rocket was removed. So maybe one day it'll come back not for this budget. Not just no, no. Okay. Very good news. Star Wars launch bay is glowing away forever.

Wow. Wow. It's glowing away. And that building has a brand new sponsor. And this is a big one. Google. Okay. Okay. Old interventions. They got all the money. Is now becoming the Chromebook Clubhouse. You know Chromebooks, the computers that are made so cheaply, they just give them away to schools. Well, they're here and you'll be able to test how Chromebooks from any number of manufacturers. But that's not all. You'll be able to meet new original characters. The Chrome critters.

Ooh. Now this is this is good. And this is paid for by Google. Google's covering it. Yeah. Didn't have to do that in any money. Google nothing's more spent no more money than Pono. They are saving. What's their called Pono, yeah. Save an RS. Okay. You get to meet Google Chrome characters. Like we see you're using a different browser. Google recommends using Chrome Switch now. And your Google Drive is filling up. Pymware space. And everyone's favorite character. Green text balloon.

Hey, it's green text balloon. He's walking around. He's got arms and legs. Okay. Can I ask you a couple of questions? Yeah. How will you meet them? Are they in animatronic form? Are they a like a mascot type character? They're like, yeah, the costume can. They walk around. They're like little little bubbles. They look like the little pop-ups. We all love, you know. Right. Got it. And you see all the time if you're using Safari or Firefox on the laptop. Right, right.

So, but the other good thing about this carousel building, if you're looking for a place to warm up on those Chili Southern California evenings. Of course. Oh, yeah, famously. Oh, Southern California does get a little chilly much. Yeah. Got to bring a light sweater. Especially in winter. Well, you're going to want to head for Chromebook Clubhouse because just like using Chrome browser on a laptop, this building gets very hot. And that's for accuracy. Say Google demanded that.

So that will be Google pay for it, but that is you're going to have to change the building to make it hot. It's going to be some technological upgrade. It's going to naturally get hot. Oh, those Chromebooks in there. And then he are going to be trying the Chromebook browser checking their email presumably. Okay, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. So that's going to be hot. Yes, all right. So you got to think about air conditioning here, you know. Right. You're going to need a solid system. Yeah, yeah.

Okay, so keep going around the horn. Finding Nemo subs unchanged. Well, Topia unchanged. Electric versions. On hold for now, but hopefully getting back on track soon. Your version put them on. Yeah, your version is not me. I'm doing. This was a blue thing. They said it was canceled in your world. Yeah. I mean, I get you. I'm just clarifying. I agree with you. I'm just, you know, I'm being loyal to the spirit of Tomorrowland 98. Better for better words.

But hey, how about something more optimistic? Let's talk food in Tomorrowland. Okay. Okay, great. Yes. Okay. Tomorrowland terrace is about to become the dining destination of Disneyland. All right. Get ready for the food of tomorrow. And by tomorrow, I mean roughly 10 years ago, like 2014. So we're talking cronots. We're talking. Whoa. We're talking the Krois sparkling water. Whoa. And you better believe we're talking Sriracha Mayo. Wow. Okay. That sounds good.

Uh, that's the most Sriracha Mayo you can add for a dollar to your burgers and fries. Okay. Dipping cups. Oh, yeah. That's and you might get a lot because often if that's an ingredient and something and it shows up, it is, uh, it's been squirted out in a very uncalfel manner. Right. Scott, you might get a lot, you might get like an eyedropper squirt. Okay. It's part of the, the unpredictability. Like we don't really know what the future is going to hold.

You know, the story and we thought a lot about story. Um, yeah. The story is that the future is untold. The future is unwritten. Yeah. So it could really be anything. I'm so glad you focused on story because I've been worried about all of our that we would all lose sight of that it's all about story. It is all about story and hey, speaking of story, for all you Easter egg fans out there, keep an eye out. Can I, can I, we're in real quick?

Yeah. Remember this something that really makes me laugh is that I was listening to a Tony Bexner interview recently where he was a little grumpy. Uh, and buddy was talking about Mark Davis talking about he goes, people keep talking about these rides or stories. They're not stories. Really? That's what he says. Whoa. He's like, Mark Davis is like, why do they keep saying stories? They're not stories. Wow. You know, you're not a ride. You look, it's like, he really like simplified it.

Like you're on a ride. You look at fun stuff or whatever, but his whole philosophy was not. I did too. I thought it was great. She's good for, oh, man. I love that cut through the clutter. That's funny. Wow. Maybe it's not a direct quote, but it seems like pretty sure I'm. But today, but today, there's a company's about story. Yeah, that was the dinner. It was a story. And Easter egg. Great, great. So keep an eye out because you might have a chance to see my love from treasure planets.

It's silhouette on one of the watering windows. Whoa. Wow. Wow. How about that hint? It's his famous presumably zigzaggy hair. His hair. He's got kind of the big, he's got the middle part that I was had growing up. Wow. And the glass, we've got glasses in there. And by the way, don't think we've forgotten about alien pizza planet. Alien pizza planet. He's going to have flatbreads instead of slices. Damn. How about that in the future? That's a good one. We'll all get to eat our own little pizza.

Our flatbread pizza. A flatbread pizza. Right. Yeah. Well, that certainly brings the spirit of some of the rest of the resort, which all, I think every location at California Adventure particularly has flatbreads. Right. So I'm glad to Marlant is finally caught up. Yes. Yeah, again, Ted the food of 10 years ago. Yeah, tomorrow is today. Wow. Wow. Okay. Okay. Oh my god. It's fire. Yeah, you're literally wiping your fit. You brought a salad. Really? Is that a bread?

I didn't know that you brought a salad. Jason sort of embodied it. When he was writing this up, he was imagining like an executive of like breathing down his neck or something, I think, stressing him out. He's really lived it. Yeah, he's gone method for this. This was supposed to be a fun exercise, but it's really taken a toll on him. I, yeah, it's, we got word even in this imaginary version. We got word. We, the, the crew, the gang. The team, the storytellers.

A lot of this is dependent on the success of ESPN bets and we're moving somebody, we're counting. This would be great. If, if they don't announce anything at the 23 that we like, if there was just like a very like tired guy on state, I guess tomorrow would have to be them. We would just like kind of his suit was rumpled and hair was messy. He was like, look, I, this is all dependent on ESPN bets. And we can't do any of this.

If this betting app doesn't work out for some really, I'm really sorry you guys. Someone made a crazy multi-parlay bet on some mumbiles Olympic performance and she killed it. We owe that personal a lot of money. Like that's, oh, go ahead. I want to get to the big, the big like, the big stuff, the big stuff. Great. Right. Yeah, close. This is kind of where all most of the 80% and 95% of the budget went. Okay. Buzz Light Your Astro Blasters will be glowing away from. Wow. Really?

Yes. Uh, you know, but this is where we spend a lot of the budget. Like I said, Buzz Light Your Astro Blasters is becoming Ant-Man in the Wasp Nano Battle. Oh, wow. You know, Ant-Man in the Wasp Nano Battle, the Hong Kong Disneyland attraction that opened at 2019 and none of us ever talk about. If I've never even been curious enough to watch a ride right right now. Right right now. Yeah. Get curious. Wow. Because it's coming to Anaheim right at the front.

And you're going to thrill to all the original footage featuring Paul Wright himself. Right. And the finest rubber downing junior impersonator Fiverr has to offer. This is, this is not a joke. This is, look at this ride. The joke is a ride. Oh, I thought I'd tell you it's all just look up the sky on Fiverr, who's really good. Well, are there impressionists on Fiverr? That is a good idea. Oh, there's voice people. Yeah. There's definitely voice people.

But oh, man, like specifically, like, yeah, do you need, do you need a Scarlet Johansson? Yeah. God, you're covered. Five bucks. Uh, don't worry. By the way, the original manufacturer, Sansa Technologies, forms formally, Sansa Yusoke is on board. Great. Okay. So we got Sansa. Assurly not nefarious Chinese company. It's actually a Japanese manufacturing firm. I double check. Okay. I'm interested. So you're going to be able to go on this ride.

I don't love that because I would like more nefariousness, honestly. Okay. Yeah. You would like the nefariousness of like Ornim Zola, the computer presence who shows up as the adversary in the ride. Oh, is that true? You know, Ornim Zola. Yes. Zola shows up. I have a big Zola guy. You and I are both big Zola guys. Big Zola guys. No, I don't know. I guess I'm going to learn to be. Yeah, you guys are. Ornim you say. Ornim Zola. Yeah. Ornim Zola.

And going on this ride, you're going to get to experience shades of yellow in gray that you've never seen or thought of before. Because this ride is mostly gray in yellow. And do have to say this ride was going to be an original story. Unfortunately, Ant Man and the Wasp, Kanga Lenga Ding Dong has Jonathan majors all over it. So it's going straight to the vault. So we just cloned the gray ride from Hong Kong. And the same ride. The same ride.

They've money that I guess they shot some of you saying. Yeah. It's mostly in English. And we're going to try to get the part that's not translated. We're trying. And so that's my presentation. We've gone all the way around back to the entrance. Great. So that's budget tomorrow. So we got some marvel in there. We got a new ride. We got a new ride. We got a new corporate. We're viewing in the United States for the first time.

That's how you address that up for the first time for the American visitors. We're the first in joy, the nano battle. We've got a huge sponsor. We've got a slightly smaller sod sponsor. The ropes and paint. We do it to pay out a pocket. Don't love that. They got word. It was Disney buying it. So they're kind of got us over a barrel. So that's budget tomorrow, Andrew. Well, you have questions. Well, I have thought my first thoughts, you know.

And is that this, all the stuff Jason said would make tomorrow and better. Hmm. Like the better, like if there was a better food in tomorrow and which is one of my biggest gripes about tomorrow and is just like very boring pizza and bad food locations. That's the worst place for food in the park. Just improving the food would give me a little bit of a better feeling about going to tomorrow to tomorrow. Yeah. We thought we were going to get that back in like 2015 when they're like Star Wars.

The seasons of the force. I think that was the very first one. And they had Star Wars theme food and it was not it. It was not it, right? Yeah. So what I'm saying is all of the things I think you said are a net positive for tomorrow and ultimately. Well, when you put it that, I know it's like the the beleaguered tone and the apologetic tone does kind of like a bligh that you're right. These are all like achievable improvements that are right that. Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, the biggest question is if you can, they are all in that positive. The biggest question is if they could actually call that a fully new tomorrow. Right. Does that fix that problem? I think they would. I think they would. I think they would. I think you feel comfortable fully calling that a new tomorrow and I think so. Yeah. Do you think how much how much paint because clearly if we're going 98 style at the very least you got a paint. Right. I think so.

I think like one you haul cargo like I'm ever much we have fit in there, you know. It's Tony's talked about like doing a lot of this himself and this is going to be a real hands-on. Everyone on board kind of in that. Don't make him do it again. Yeah. They admire him as a painter. Not really pay him because it's like, well, look, you wouldn't look. The money, don't you have enough money that we gave you before? Yeah. Would you have any of that if not for us?

We might need to borrow some of those Mary Poppins two lights and popsy as in his backyard. I made a Mary Poppins two backyard. Yeah. Yeah. That was in the paper. I think that's not I think he said that in public. So that's not like. No, I think there was something we know from looking at his house on Google Maps or through binoculars. That's not from that. We didn't do that by the way. Either we've not looked at his house. Did not. No, either of those things. Nope. You know what? Not bad.

Do you get like a, you know what else would be a good trick is just like new, just like logo because logos don't really cost money. Yeah. logo would be great. That doesn't, you could throw that on and I think I think people buy that. You know, you just like reveal the name at D23 and that's a lot. Sure. You put it at enough places in the land. You put it on t-shirts and coffee mugs and just kind of cemented it people's mind. You've done like half the work.

What's really funny about everything you said and in the manner which you said it was obviously funny the way you said it. But I can imagine the way that Josh tomorrow would say all of that to like thunderous applause. And then end with like there's an ant man ride coming and you'd be like, oh, it's we am yeah. Okay. I like Paul. It's a funny guy. Wait, see just a way in which you deliver the message. He's like kind of like, oh, and I did forget one thing.

Then the iconic ant man score plays with the people in that room know and I don't. I just hear like, like it's not like me, but like I think just that would get a big pop and right. It's not known enough that nano battle is sort of nothing to write home about. Right. They might not know. And then like if he does, if he frames it is kind of like we have revitalized the plant life all around. Yes, right. To build to a sustainable future.

I think, you know, you know, I would say you don't use the word sod public facing. God, I wish I would have thought of this. This I should have called you guys. Hopefully. Yeah. Your honesty was the like this, but what you have done is exactly how it's presented to tomorrow. And then he has to like take a deep breath, psych himself up in the mirror. You can do this. You can do this. You hand some devil. You can sell if you can sell a fast one on him again. You've done it before.

You'll do it again. I feel like some sort of bookie nights ass and movie model on. Oh, yeah, of course. He steams the bomber jacket and then he goes out there. He's a hand steamer. Yeah, they had to. We have one at home. It's great. So convenient. Depends on the material, but yeah, they work pretty well. Yes. If you mix materials, you don't want to use a steamer because they dry at different rates. So you don't want to use a steamer and like a men's soup coat. There's too many layers. I got it.

That's you got to dry clean. That all the yeah. But tomorrow knows that. He knows. Of course. That's like that. That's the end of his job. That's exactly the one I want. Any of you can do his job. It's just yeah, yeah. You can deliver any message while looking sharp and it'll sail. Right. So get your steam around. Shush. And get people excited about that sod. Yeah. I think that was pretty good. That's pretty good. It was very funny and also like that got it kind of isn't just enough, isn't it?

It's kind of just enough. It is. Yeah. It really is just enough. Yeah. Yeah. That new new food alone. I feel like people come out. I would feel like, oh, I would go try like the better tomorrow and food. I'd be interested in that. You just call it like it's just now it's tomorrow and be stro. And now we're I do. Yeah, we like we got to go down to the be stro. Tomorrow and be stro. Let's make a trip to Anime. They really wanted to be risky and get a little futuristic.

The S could be a two and the O of the A zero. Right. I guess it probably be I was trying to figure out like what would it digital be strobe ease. And then that would be de-stro I think that would be to use a. De-stro. De-stro. That might be the right topic for you. Wait a minute. I do like the sound of that. That's not bad. Uh-huh. It's not the what's the characters desk throw the character DC character. Uh, that's uh, do you I Joe villain? Well, I'll check it.

I'll check and see which villain I'm putting. I think I got a lot of villains running around in my head from my youth. So I don't I can't keep trade straight. Uh, okay. That's excellent. That's excellent. Yeah, I think I'm perfectly yeah. Fall the rules great. Got the job done. Thank you so much. Oh, thank God. So this. I got it. Take it. It's over. Yeah, you're over. Get that towel on you. Oh, it's all off for a couple days. Oh, Jason. Wait, Josh's problem now.

Wait, it didn't we were not recording Jason. Oh no, geez. You got to do the whole thing again. Oh, geez. My memory. All right. So let me hit the origin care and then I'll come back around. Oh, okay. All right. Takes you an hour or two to boot that thing up, right? Yeah, it takes a couple hours. Okay. All right. Just kidding. JK folks from the planning, shopping and prepping to actually getting everyone to enjoy what you made. Family dinners can be stressful. Hello, fresh gets it.

They make it easy by delivering fresh ingredients and picky eater approved recipes right to your door each week. Last week I prepared, served and consumed the one-pan pineapple salsa pork tacos. Folks, these were really good ingredients were really fresh and I served it to my family. And they were all like, oh, they were making that noise where they're like, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm. Like this is really good. They all thought it was great.

Skip trips to the grocery store and count on Hello, Fresh to make home, cooking, easy, fun and affordable. That's why it's America's number one meal kit. For a limited time, kids eat free. Go to HelloFresh.com slash Ride Kids to unlock this exclusive offer. One free kid's meal per box for two months while subscription is active. That's free kids meals just by going to HelloFresh.com slash Ride Kids. Hey, it's Kaylee Cuoco for Price Line. Ready to go to your happy place for a happy price?

Well, why didn't you say so? Just download the price line app right now and save up to 60% on hotels. So, whether it's cousin Kevin's Kuzu concert in Kansas City, go Kevin! Or Becky's Bachelorette, Bash and Bermuda. You never have to miss a trip ever again. So download the price line app today. Your savings are waiting. Go to your happy place for a happy price. Go to your happy price, price line. Take it. All right.

So, I really tried my best to imagine what realistically would happen in this year. There are a couple of things I think is a gray area. There's one big thing that I'll probably talk about at the end that I struggled with. That I was like, this doesn't feel right happening, but maybe it does happen. So check me. Everybody check me. You're allowed to have a little dessert. Sure. I try not to get so long. Don't drop a whip cream for Jason, but you get to, so it might very well be.

Please don't make me deal with the dairy distributors because they're cut. They're worse than the sod people. So yeah. So I really, so just to give you my philosophy before I start here, and this, I guess, yeah, tomorrow wouldn't do this, but this is how I'm choosing to present this, is I was trying to keep most of the existing infrastructure. Yeah. Because that would save a lot of money.

I would love to demolish everything and start fresh, but that's not probably what I think they would do in 2024. Yeah. I kind of keep the bones of Tomorrowlands. So I've tried to find fun stuff that I don't think is going to break the bank for my proposal here. So I think Tomorrowland needs some sort of a new tagline, a new thing because that's the way Disney does everything now. They add more words. So I would call it Tomorrowland spaceport infinity.

That would be, you could call it, yes, be, I guess, for short, spy, or whatever. And the loose premise, which we've talked about this before, is it's sort of a port of entry. It's a place where, you know, spaceships land and they take off and aliens congregate and all the different IP congregate as well. So I was thinking, I want stuff that feels like nods to Disney history and sort of original stuff, but that's not going to happen in the modern company.

So let's see if we can cram it somewhere else. So I thought, well, why not go with Buzz Lightyear and change the name and change a little bit of what's inside? Call it Buzz Lightyear Adventures alien encounter with the next location. So you're, this, so we talked about this while ago, the whole hype of like Guardians of Galaxy, oh, they're going to reference up, got stuff, it's loosely referenced.

But I feel like in this Buzz Lightyear adventure is alien encounter, you keep the ride system, you keep it the shooter ride, but you change sort of the narrative of the ride and you change every room to maybe be a different reference to old tomorrow land stuff. Wow. So you shrink down in one like a inner space and you do, you know, you can have your references to alien encounter itself with the excess tech and stuff. Zurich can still be involved.

He's still kind of the bad guy, but maybe he's the one who kind of is torturing the alien from alien encounter, then you kind of end up having to save that alien by the end. Which then there's then there's that heart and then you're reading that character. Because like that character was sort of mistreated the alien from alien encounter, but you can still have it be a little lightly scary.

Everything's still going to be kind of cartoonish to keep kind of in the same theme Buzz Lightyear, the way it is now, whatever space ranger spin. Is that what it's called in Disneyland? No, it's Astro Belay Astro Belay Astro Belay. Astro Belay, I had to look this up yesterday too. And I did remember we went through this on the episode. But yeah, you can do like if you had wings room, you can do Captain E.O. Evil Queen room here. And you can do it in like a cartoon Buzz Lightyear style.

Oh, her render it is. Which would be fun. So you can give, because this is what they've been doing lately, I feel like. And this is what country-beard, barbecue, jamboree, like the people in Imagineering do want to give us what we want. Yeah. But they have to sneak it in. Yeah. And I attempt to sneak it in here with an overlay, not overlay, a redo that wouldn't be so expensive and would keep the ride system there.

It would improve Buzz Lightyear, which I think is a good desert room for improvement. Yes. I'm curious what an if you had wings room means. I don't really know. I should have flashed that a little more. It could just be a little like one of the hallways that take you from one room to the other. Like kind of like a bird, it may be a bird like crumbling eastern airway sign. Sure. It could be a short little reference that doesn't necessarily have to have its own room.

They're just watching Buzz Lightyear take a comfortable flight. Sure. That's fine too. Seven and seven, please. Right. So, yeah. You can shoot, you can shoot, chairman, clench at the end of the ride, maybe a cartoon chairman, clench. Sure again, clench teaming up makes sense. That's fun. I like that.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You could do like some like, you could kind of like America, you could have a little like America sings references with like the characters in like little space outfits or something flying around like the E. Can I with lasers blow the head off that eagle? Only if you there's a secret target. Okay. You got to be good. It's a million of goes to get it.

Yeah. You have to be such a precise shot to actually have the head fly off which they don't they don't want normal like normal parkour is to see a little violent. But like there's a techno version of like way down upon the swanning river. Like the songs that you have one of those on your I. Yeah. Well, I just know I'm my band camp app my band camp creator. So you can load that right now. That's announced at Honda Center and there's just one shriek from Jason. Right. Yeah. A lot of audience.

Let's go. Yes. So that is yes. That is not the most expensive thing in the world, but it is a nice little refresh with the references that we like. Great. And we will feel take it because we want to we us Disneyland weirdos want to feel taken care of. And this is the type of thing that makes us feel taken care of. I you know, you know, I don't think I even need to say this because they're going to do it. Yeah. If it's a ride full of Easter as you got to get an a 113 in there. Oh, okay.

Yeah. So that we can you know and that's you know that's code on some spaceship or something. But that way you can get you know every hundredth car is a car with nerds going. It went through to that's the classroom. It's a college with a lot of the animals. Tim Burton is. So it's kind of a message to each other. They put in the movies and they yeah. So that yeah, that'll be in there and they'll be there.

There'll be maybe a target that will like illuminate it or something to to really make sure nerds pointed out. So it gets bigger when if you know the right target to make it bigger and appear, then you can even loudly or even more loudly say to the person who gives you like implicit permission to stop whispering that.

I think that stuff's important to point out, especially if you're you know on a date or something at Disneyland because pointing it out can help facilitate the end of a relationship that's not meant to be right. Which is nice. It was the girl in out. I'm saying great. It's probably like it's going to be a girl probably more likely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the one 13 is a Cal Arts classroom or an imaginary ring. That's a well. Now I have to just say the real no, that's a Cal Arts thing.

Yeah. Because a lot of that now I don't remember. It's like it's Brad Burden. It's Lester and it's Tim Burden. Tim Burden. Tim Burden. It's a room they all would have known. Look at studio. Yeah. So every 10th is actually interesting. I'm just. I said it. It's cheap. It's cheap. Every 10th car is into it. But every 9th car is complaining about the prevalence of the Cal Arts style. And I've seen online before and I don't understand what the dog had of that. Oh, yeah. I don't know.

That's lost on me. I think it's something about animation, specifically animation, television animation style. Hmm. Okay. Well, we're looking to that. No, I don't know. No, it's not. You're looking to it. I'd say let's not. Yeah. Yeah. Let's not look into it. Yeah. I'm sorry. All these guys made a bunch of good movies and shows. Oh, well. Yeah. Star tours. The adventures continue or the adventures continue. That's what it is. Can't think of any of the names of these rights.

The rights they didn't know one calls it. Yeah. Basically the same. But we're adding BB8 to the queue. BB8 is going to be with R2, 3PO. That's going to get a big cheer in the room. Doesn't seem the most expensive thing. And then we're going to just get a couple new scenes. Kanto bite from last Jedi. We're going to do. Kanto bites good for a. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that would work in a start to us. And more of like a best-spin scene too. Cloud city scene. Yeah. Big Cloud city guy.

And let's even flirt with the idea that it's like a more of a calm scene. That's a pleasant scene because I always talk about. Did it say what? It's like a calm scene. Oh, more of a calm scene. It would have to be the first one because you want to end on a big client. I tell you said like Morpha calm. I'm like, I don't know that planet. That's cool. We can make a bottom line. And you go to Morpha calm. Morpha calm. And then more characters, more characters that can like send their transmission.

Max Rebo. Like give us a Max Rebo. Give us, I guess, Figure and Dan and the modal nodes. Three of them or how many of them. There's six of them in there. A lot to fit in there. Yeah, but just really like, let's open it up as far as like all the different characters. All the pod racers could contact you. And again, this isn't the most expensive thing in the world. And it's just a nice thing that start to us already does this stuff. And I think if you just give us, throw us a couple more things.

You'll feel like, okay, yes, start towards the little fresh. I like the idea enough to give you permission to say one of the names of the pod racers. I know you want to know. No, no, really, I don't know. I want you to. Can I say it? Let's all right. Jason can say it. Okay. Team Tupa Galeys. All right. Thank you. Very good. All right. Everybody earned it. I don't want to say one. Sandage or Odie Randrell. I don't want to say any of the names. I don't like it. I shouldn't make you.

I shouldn't make you say. I don't like to say the names. Astral Orbiter gone. Yeah. All right. Taking that thing, Tony's like, if they only did that. Yes, that would be a big step. That thing is gone. Right now, if you don't know, it's right at the front of Tomorrowland. And it is so inconvenient. You got to walk around it. There's always bottlenecks happening. I, we've talked about it before. It's an idea in theory, but with how crowded Disneyland is, it's not worth it being there.

It would only work if everything had like 20% more. If you were building a Tomorrowland from the ground up, and that was your entry point, great. But it's a pretty narrow, the main avenue, whatever you want to call it. Tomorrow avenue. Right. It's just, yeah, it's tough. And we're ripping out people and move or track. Yeah. That goes down the walkway there. Okay. Also is in the way and just inconvenient.

And obviously they haven't done anything with them while, but that's, that's got to go for traffic reasons. And you think about other tomorrow avenues, in other parks, and they don't have that. Yes. Overhang, and it feels more open and free. Yes. And then the, now that, now that we've questioned what it's called, I'm just thinking Orvidon, that thing's gone. I'm pulling that thing out too. Orvidon, that. I'm pulling that whole stretch of stuff out.

Yeah. Open that walkway up because that's just, it's all inconvenient at this point. And it's got to go. And there's nothing in there. And there's nothing in there. This is, this is somewhat expensive, but okay, it's, it's got to go, I think. And I do that. It feels like they would do that with a modern day decent budget. But it's just nothing. It's not even replaced by, there's no tower. No. No, I don't want to put anything there. I don't want to put anything there. Some more planters.

Hmm. With, because he can, keep in mind, yeah, if you had 12 bags, Mike's getting at least 15. Yeah, that's, okay. Matt, we'll think about the planters. I'm not sure. I'm, I'm iffy on the planters. Okay, okay, fair enough. Space mount basically stays the same, I think, with this, Space mount is still a great ride. Would I like them to do what Tokyo is doing? Is it rip it out and put in the coolest thing ever? Yes, it doesn't seem likely. Mm-hmm. They're not even doing that in Florida.

So there's no way they're going to do it here. So you had to look, if you had to rocket launcher, blow one up, you would choose Florida. Yeah, of course. It's pretty rough. It doesn't have the fun score and smoothness in mind. It doesn't have any music. Is it? Does it have any music? It's just eerily, it's like kind of quiet. I think it's a lot of click-line. And someone out there is listening and saying, all that stuff you said is what's good about it. Yeah, of course.

I understand. I, I, I, I, I, I. Really like the Christmas party version where they blast you with like really loud Christmas music and yellow and green lights. Right. That is fun. I wish they would do that out here. Well, let's put that in yours. Mine, that's part of mine too. Good, yeah. Yeah, the Christmas over there. But I think they can, I think the names, I swear they've done this and I've seen no one confirm this online.

But when Space Mountain had to redo a couple months ago, a year ago or something, it did feel like the effects with the stars were brighter. And I don't know if that any, like, I don't know what the technology is behind making the stars brighter but not showing the track. And somebody, I'm sure I sound like an idiot, but there's probably like little stuff like that they could do or like whatever tricks they've learned on Guardians to like make that thing feel so bright, but still not feel like.

It's a very high contrast experience, isn't it? Yeah. The whites are very white and the blacks are very black. And that's trickier because the track is, I think, a lot closer together on Space Mountain. It's like this big cylinder in my mind. And really, yeah, like you probably, you've probably got like room to project and separate in that new Guardians. Yeah, so I know you can't do something so incredible, but I don't know, I kind of like the Star Wars overlay they do. So more of that stuff.

So you could, you could announce like little things like that. There's improvements coming to the Star Wars Space Mountain overlay or whatever. But I'm, I'm mostly not a fan of the Star Wars overlay, but there's a move in it where you kind of like there is a real surprise like jump scare of a blast, like some ship loads. Yeah. And you kind of duck under it, like you're heading right for it. And then you duck under it like with barely any time.

Yeah. And I would say some equivalent move that's always there in a non Star Wars version. Oh, yeah, that would be cool. Yeah. Like a meteor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A hour or a blast or like a meteor or just some like, I don't know, super no, yeah, yeah, two, two, uh, comments collage. Oh, yeah, that's cool. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, something like that would be cool. Because yeah, the way they have it, it feels like an astronaut's head explodes.

Wow. Which is what out, which is what happens when an astronaut doesn't have his helmet on. Is it? It gradually expands and then burst like a balloon. Like that Simpson's joke. It feels like a lot of the Star Wars, like effects on that overlay is just they've put like a long neon strip of like green and red to simulate the fire from the X wing or the tie fighters. Yeah. And then just play the noise and then do it and it kind of works. Very effective. It does.

Some of that shit's simple in the first movie. It's very, yeah, just opening the score, uh, going up the hill and stuff. That really, I like that. Yeah. I guess we had a lot of space. I don't know. Yeah. Uh, there's there's value to it. But I'm saying like that's what we're going to do with this. There's going to be light little effects changes, but it's not going to be, we're not putting a lot of money into a new space mountain in this pitch.

It's not, I don't think a required piece of no, it's not. I again, I wish they were, I said this before I would, if they would replace it with guardians, I would actually be fine with it. Like in Florida. No space mountain. Oh, okay. Like the guardians coaster I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. I thought you were saying replace space mountain in Florida with guardians, which I would also be fine with second guardians. Sure. Yeah. Two parks. That's great. That would be great.

Yeah. That's cheaper. Yeah. You know, there's a building new space. But what I am excited about with in regards to space mountain is next to space mountain, the Star Wars launch current Star Wars launch bay. Yeah. What are we going to do with this thing? This thing has been sitting, this is maybe the most offensive part of Tomorrowland. Yeah. A lot of ways. It's for a long time. Yeah, I am. And it's just sitting there. It's had the house of the future or whatever they called it.

It was called the house of the future when it was just the weird like, uh, uh, uh, The intervention was just a part of intervention. Sorry. Yeah. And that like, nobody like that. And then it's now it's like, meet and greets for Star Wars characters, which is just fun stuff in there, but like it's just that's so much space and whatever. Yeah. I think what you got to do with this is turn it into a big restaurant. Yeah. I think that now you can do it a couple of ways.

You could keep the building as it is. I mean, it rotates, but you don't have to do that. Or you could just demolish it and build a new two story restaurants. Yeah. And have the top part be a bar lounge with a nice terrace out there. Yeah. And this thing is going to be packed. Yeah. Every night. There's no one who wouldn't want to do it. Make it blue by you level. Make, I mean, that's for Disney. That's high level. Yeah. But it's, you know, be a bee, depending on what you get.

But you can have a cocktail up there. You can have a nice meal. You can have different rooms because there's a lot of real estate. So you can do some of the space restaurant and upcott stuff in here too. So you could have different, like a BR guest. You could have different rooms that are, you know, simulating different parts of a spaceship. One thing is you're actually in space one. You're, I don't know, dining in the capsule. It's a smaller room or whatever. Sure. Or, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Like a big round table and kind of a centrifuge. Sure. Yeah. So, like, I just think this makes a lot of sense because there's, I'm sure, like, blue by you, I guess is technically the best restaurant in Disneyland, other than Club 33. Yeah. Right? Yeah. It feels like I'm wondering why they haven't done more of this. And they've never done Disneyland has never done a BR guest. Not that I don't have no idea the actual quality of that. I think it's gone down since it'll be okay.

Okay. But I think, man, menu, it used to be like, oh, go breakfast. It's counters are right. And it's like, you can see it off for really cheap and they're like, pretty fixed lunch and dinner. Yeah. I think it might be still okay, but I think it was, I went pretty, no, I guess not soon, a couple years after and I thought it was really good. And the next time I went, it was fine. It was okay to find. Yeah, we definitely don't have like a, and there's not like a skipper's canteen or anything.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Disneyland is pretty weak with like, sit down restaurants. Right. What I like about this is you're sneaking in original ideas, original stuff in here, but it's covered by like, oh, the food in beverage. Yes, there's not gonna generate money. Off-ring will pay it off in a year. Right. This is something we would be excited about, but this is just a money generating thing. Now, that will be cool and be like attraction adjacent.

Yes. You know, it's okay that it's not revolving the magical show. Now if they're getting very ambitious, you demolish the building and you build a new two-story building and you put the astral orbiter on top of it. Oh, gee. Now they can, now it can support it. Yes. Because you would have to re-destroy it. I'm sure it can't hold it as it is. That's cool. Yes, so then you could really even bring out the terraces and you could have it so you can kind of see the astral orbiter above you.

You could do it in a different cool way where there were a lot of just opportunities for interesting seating and interesting vantage points. Yeah. I guess you could load people. They would have to take an elevator up to get it, but it would be kind of like, I guess, you could do it like the people mover in Florida, where there's a moving... That's how rocket jets work in Florida. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you could see you could have a queue within that big new structure, which could kind of come out a little bit. It could sort of go west because you've demolished the waste of space, the orbidon tower. Right. And then there could be a little like VIP entrance up to the astral orbiter after you go to the... Like a drink at the bar, you go up and you get a little rocket ride around tomorrow land. And then that's like... That sounds like heaven to me.

Yeah. Are you saying you get a special entrance because... Maybe it's a special entrance, yeah. Little park, little fast pass, pass, pass, park, yes. Oh, because you ate at the new way, one of the... Yes. And then you get the grill. And there's an... Like a special little entrance or elevator that you take. Yeah. That's like the elevator at the restaurant in Epcot. It's nothing like eating a full-size lamb chop and then going on the astral orbiter that you're eating.

It's been around for a while. Just a quick seven and seven and pork chop and then get right on the astral orbiter. Hey, if you can't handle that, you should not be in space, you know? That's a good point. Being with a big pork chop in your stomach. It's kind of a test. Get to... Get to adventure land, pal. Get to frontier land. You can't cut it in space with all the rest of us. I got some pitches for the name... Oh, great. Space Mountain Station.

It would have to be called Space Mountain Station Restaurant. Space Ship Eat is another one of my pitches. Oh, that's really good. So you get your Disney reference there. Some more in mine. This isn't better than that, but I was toying with an idea in mine with the phrase Space Mountain Summit. Okay. Like that. Or Base Camp or something. Right. Something that uses the mountain aspect of it. But I think Space Ship Eat's probably the way. Space Ship Eat is funny.

I have some other ones down where I would Google it and I'd be like, is anything called it? I was like, call the bar bar orbit. And I think there is some Instagram, but I don't know if it's just a name or there's actually a restaurant or something called that. What was the name of, you know, how Disney did have a restaurant in the theme building at LAX, which is the big 60s mine. Yeah, yeah. The easy structure. Is that what it was called? I think it was called the encounter.

Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. Bring it out. That's what we got to look into. There's a lot of... That'd be worth it. Interesting stuff. But... Yeah. I never went. I never went. I never went. I never really opened it. Yeah. Really sporadically. Right. So, yeah. So there's some, we could name it different things. Some little things. Magic Eye Theater, which just is usually like a preview of a movie. I feel like what you could do is turn it into a meet and greet, like walk through.

Like the way they do Chubacca where you kind of go through a tiny little section of a rebel base or something. And then you meet Chubacca and it's in a themed room and there's the photographers, obviously, already there. But we could do a full retro, Mickey and Friends spaceship outfit. Oh, great. Kind of space station meet and greet. Yeah. And then you could... It would be a pretty good like people later because you would do...

You would line up the same way you would line up first for Captain Yeo or Honey Ishrunk, the audience, and then they would go in and they just kind of go in. You could...it's a...what, it's a couple hundred seats theater or something? Sure. You could probably change that into just a little bit of a like a windy maze that looks kind of space mountain queues. Sure. And then you get to the end and it's like a little like...you could use this...probably use the same screen.

It's just like a screen that has...I guess you couldn't have to be a video screen. Not a projection screen like it is in there. So that doesn't make sense. But it would be like a big, you know, space window or whatever and Mickey, many of the way. So that's what I think is retro outfits, which is another thing that's going to get a big pop if you go over bringing back the Disney characters in those old like space outfits.

Which I don't think I've ever heard officially acknowledged by the company, but I feel like everybody would know, at least to be at that though. I think so. Yeah. So like a little space out there. The little space out there. The little space out there. The little space out there. They're in the photo...that photo spread of like...was it a Vogue from 91 or something or...it was a high fashion magazine like Photos Bread of people in different outfits around Disney world.

And they were with the space Mickey and Minnie in Epcot. Wow. Yeah. Good enough for Vogue. Yeah. So we can...they can show that at the presentation if they're doing what I...my idea is. But yeah, that's...you basically keep the building the same. And now they've gained a committed meet and greet of characters, but it's different in a way. And then flexible.

So you can do different characters in there depending to keep it fresh if everybody has already had their pictures with the little space suit. Perhaps... Perhaps, perhaps a Disney land place and presence for figment. Well, that's an interesting idea. Very, very interesting. I never thought of...that's under like...I have it. No reason to not have figment also. That's an interesting...in some small way here. I kind of don't know if I agree with it. You like making...

I've never thought about it before. Figment a special only Epcot. Truly I've never thought about that before. Jason, you ever thought about that before? I haven't thought about it before, but I think enough time has passed. Of him being an original Epcot. It's been like 50 years now. 40 years. I... I can be sold on that. Yeah. But it is interesting because it's almost like a fucking shock into me. It's very exciting. Wow. You just said. So strange.

I think it's Mickey Mouse appearing at the end of a show of Star Wars characters at Disney. Well, that's just exciting. Disney, Disney, Disney park. That's interesting. I can't just see if anyone's doing that. In our Hoai permanent hyperspace hoopla. Oh, man. I unfortunately picked stuff that I think they would do. But I'd love to see that. I think what's a free rate then. I'm a figment having like a brother or something. A West Coast or a West Coast brother? No, Eric. Eric. Hey, Eric. Big men.

He doesn't have a... Yeah. He doesn't have a whimsical thing. Right, right. He's a good one. He's a good one. He's a good one. He's a good one. Eric. He's a great guy. Okay. A little stuff. Autopia stays the same. We're doing the electric cars in whatever four years. It's a lot of real estate. I love the demolish it. Doesn't seem like it's going to happen. Maybe within your work, you can't. That's what I felt. That's how I felt. Yeah. Especially they. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Especially they.

I'm like, I'm trying to keep them... I know they're going to do electric cars. They say they are. But we'll see. Sub staying the same. And with tomorrow and terrorists and stuff for the food there, I just have... Make the food better. Just make the food better. Yeah. Just like... 25% better. It doesn't even have to be different items. No. And I want to... Don't... And I love the stage. It comes out from underground. That stays the same. I just want more live entertainment. And they...

It doesn't have to be like a rockabilly band playing in Tomorrowland at night, but it wouldn't hurt. I wouldn't mind it. Because I always like when you go over to Tomorrowland and there's the band playing at night. It just... It lifts even if you don't stop and watch it. It just feels like something's happening here tonight. Yes. So more of that. Yeah. But it's like, though, all what... You know, we had fun talking about Pride night with Henry and...

Yes. I'm like, you know, leather stitched all the time. Why not? Hey, that's just... That's just to play all of that. You know, like, I mean, the biggest risk is that some right-wing crank talks about it for nine days. Yes. And then it never is thought about or controversial again. Right. That's going to ride on exactly one cycle of Libs of TikTok and then they can do whatever. Then Stitch could dance for years to come. That is... I'd love to go back.

Teach a media literacy class at Ethica and go like, okay, first things first. No comment. Second thing. Wait it out. Those nine days are going to fly by if you focus on other things, you know? This is you teaching kids. Well, you're teaching kids that are riding out a scandal. That's a class. You're going to do it if the... No, not an actual scandal. No, I don't want to... I don't want to... I don't want to try. It's fake scandals. Logan pulls it. Logan pulls it in this forest.

Oh, you know, I don't want something like that. So he's Logan Paul's on a talk show and they're like, well, how did you get over that scandal last year and he goes, well, my teacher Jason Sheridan, when I took his class at Ethica, he taught me how to ride out anything bad that I've ever told. No, I don't know that I'm ready to be the scapegoat. That is... That might be lesson number three. Pick a well-placed scapegoat that you can get caught in something you can blame them.

This seems like a different philosophy than what you said in the first two. No, no, no. Well, the first one is for manufactured bullshit right-wing outreach. Yeah, okay. Okay. But this is... Now, you're... But you are getting into the territory I assume of the show Scandal. You are kind of... I can't... I have no further details about the show stand-over. I have no further details about the show stand-over. I see, like, the two stand-over. Yeah. But you're...

Jason, you're turning into a regular Olivia Pope. Oh, yeah. I didn't know the name Olivia Pope. I didn't know. I have to look up. You were all nervous when you were presenting, but now you're very confident when you're telling people to throw out a stand-over. Oh, I just took measures to all fight in my project. Oh, okay. And now I'm just... This thing you're very comfortable with. This is chilling. This is chilling. This is chilling. Because you're in the hot seat now. I am in the hot seat.

You're in the hot seat now. Because the sod concern is off his back. The sod people aren't doing it. I blocked all those numbers. I blocked all those numbers. All those numbers we have delivery date and payment date. Okay. It's accounts, payable, and receivables problem now. So there's one final question mark on my presentation. Because I do think what I just presented, if presented in the sexy Demarrow Way, would be pretty popular and people would be excited at this.

I think... I think Carousel is like an amended space, yeah. That's great. I think that's huge. That's just that. Just that would work. Now, on our Patreon, on our second gate episode, I predicted that Tomorrowland is going to close D23. That there's going to be an announcement about New Tomorrowland. And I also made an even riskier prediction about some kind of people mover coming back. Okay. And this has been weighing, I mean, now for days. Because I start... I've really doubting myself now.

If it fits in your budget range. Because, yes. And part of it is because I was just like, to me, it feels like they don't have anything big for Disneyland. And they always want to close on a hometown announcements. Now, I was thinking about how you said that in that episode. And then I was like, has that ever actually happened? I feel like it has. Just not a while. But not a while. Because lately, it's just like... You know, it was like big beyond big...

Like the last two years ago was just there was nothing. It was like, we're thinking about why it would happen in Florida. If you're hometown likes the word maybe. And we could... I know you'd like that in a while. Destination D23 maybe has a more localized conclusion. You know, also sometimes what I might be thinking of too is that they'll be like, and we're giving everybody a free something fastpass to go. If you're in the park today, you can go whatever.

If you have a reservation on your ticket, you can use this. Also, my logic was there just doesn't feel like a lot of stuff they're going to fully announce where it's going for Disneyland. It's going to open in the next five to six years. And to me, it's like there's a couple things. And then, tomorrow it has to happen now before Disneyland Florida or else it's not happening. So that's sort of part of my logic. I feel like it's going to close with the tomorrow end. That's a guess. I don't know.

I don't have any insider information. But I said... You've programmed a great show. I just don't know if it's really interesting. And I understand. I understand. I'll see how accurate I am. But I said, I think this is going to be maybe like a new people mover. And I am starting to doubt my prediction. I'll keep my bet. I'm not going to go back on my bet. I'm a man of your word and your money. But I'm looking at this Google map. I'm studying this Google map overhead view.

I would did a lot of this too. Yeah. Trying to figure out where we could comfortably make a new tomorrow end. Not trans, that's the Florida version. People move or track in general that wouldn't cost a bunch of money because you have to demolish existing buildings. And boy does it seem tough. Yeah. I don't know other than really changing some stuff around there where you're going to get the space. You can kind of go around the back...

Like you could kind of maybe go around the back of space mountain and go around sort of toward launch bay. I just don't know what's happening over there. I don't know the state of any of those tunnels. You would have to think that if they were going to shut down, if Utopia is going to be down for a while, can we just fix those tracks over there? Well, as part of that, that's just part of the same project. Right. So I'm looking at this. I'm stressing out, I'm not an engineer of any kind.

I don't know what I'm doing other than I'm just eyeballing what looks like there's room to expand and expand in a way that won't interfere with the existing infrastructure there. And it seems pretty impossible to do it. So I start to really doubt my prediction about there being a people mover. But maybe Disney gives a little more money for this presentation or this redo of Tomorrowland. And they rebuild... I think they should not put the people in the middle anyway.

I still think that's a bad idea there. But maybe... I watched somebody kind of ideate on some of the stuff. I think offhand Disney is really excited about. Yeah, I like some of his ideas. And he had the proposal of doing it like Disney World where there's no middle track. And it goes along the sides of the show buildings down tomorrow avenue. That's basically what I came to the conclusion though would have to be.

It still feels like they're going to have to do some adjusting building to existing buildings. And it's not the easiest thing in the world. But what I would do then in keeping with modern Disney is theme the people mover to Tron. Great. And it's not going to go fast, but it's going to have neon when you're in the tunnels. It's going to go around and you can call it. There's two names. Tron bull movers. Well, that's good to call it the transportation center.

Cool. Yeah. Yeah. You could also call it the Tron Transit Authority, but that's not his final thing. Trons it. But the Tron... Yeah, the Transportation Center. You could call it the ticket and transportation center. I guess if you really wanted to be the complete accurate reference to Disney World. But yes, you would have to go sort of around the outskirts of Tomorrowland.

It gets tricky and this is where I really should have really done my homework and figured out how it can loop around the area by Autopia and the subs. Because that's tricky, because you got a Montereyl track there. You got the cars, obviously, you got the streets for Autopia. But there's got to be some way to kind of loop it around there and have it come back. You just do them less. It just doesn't do as much. Which would be unfortunate, but... Right.

You know, that's the way it gets done in your mid-budget version. Right. I think you'd also just close attractions and phases. You close... Yes. ...started for three months, space bound for three months, Autopia for three months. And you just... The track gets built like people know, like, oh, it's coming. Yeah. And gloves are there because they started here and now they're here.

And I think the pitch then for where you load if you're going to build a new restaurant from the ground up, I think it loads sort of in that general area. Kind of. It's like that because that sort of feels like it's got the most space. And then especially if you're going to demolish that building anyway, you can sort of... You're excuse me, now I'm getting a digestion from talking so much. You could add your...

Like whatever moving walkway or your elevator and sort of have that whole restaurant just be like a big transportation hub, a big port, a big space port for all the different places you want to go in the galaxy. Yeah. Yeah. You know what's... Maybe a... Somewhere some of that stuff could happen is like starcade. Starcades, like... Yes. ...but come loading for something. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I'm trying to think of the Jacques B. Starcades goes or something. If it's not there, I also would pitch.

Just fill that up with arcades, please. Like fill that up like the old days. It was very fun when it was like... I guess it was on Flynn's arcade that was in California, I remember. Yeah. But wreck it Ralph around that time. Before that, it was just generic arcade. Right. Then it was wreck it Ralph kind of themed and then just shut down. I was remembering they had the short lived like magic key holder lounge. Yes. Which was mostly tiny digital advertisements for West Side Story.

And one like photo opportunity, Steppen repeat. And then after I checked that out, we went to Tomorrowland Terrace. And I got food that was so bad. And it was my birthday. It was my birthday. That lounge was terrible. The food was off. It was something like waffle fries with pulled pork on it. To my favorite foods and was so bad. And every weight was like over an hour, like 90 minutes. And like tears were kind of welling up in my eyes. Because I was like, it's day sucks. My birthday.

It's not on my birthday. It's not my birthday. That's food sounds terrible. How many times have you been back since? I even have my limits. Wow. That was how crowded it was. I don't usually avoid Tomorrowland Terrace. But I was like, that's got a reasonable line. Yeah. I think it's cool. Yeah. I think you kind of got a way to attack Tomorrowland. Or I'm sorry, people mover. And the tron thing maybe like gives it the extra money it needs to. That's my thought. Yeah. The movie coming.

They seem to keep wanting to try. Yeah. Great. New bad movie coming. New disappointing, tortured, boring movie coming. Sure. But if I don't care, I do not care about the quality of these films. I just want some, if it finances some lights in these theme parties. Some blue glowing lights. You'll put up with, I'm guessing a reunion of Jared Lato and Skrillex back together again. Not since Suicide Squad the first one. Oh, wow.

No, I'm just guessing it's like the downgrade from like the original Draft Punk album, soundtrack for the second one that everyone liked so much. And it's like, Skrillex is back. 10 years after his prize. Because Draft Punk broke up. Is that right? I didn't do that. Helmets finally cracked. Yeah, they only had one set of helmets. Fuck. Yeah, it's over. That was all it took. So, well, once there was a crack in the helmets, then that allowed oxygen in. And they're alien.

They're head, so their heads expanded and blew up. All the reds are really the robots. Okay. Well, robots who also can't be so... They could be like human robots. But there were helmets. It's got to be for some reason. Back he was based sucked out of the circuits and wires. Yeah. The only reason I, I really like watching interviews like Nile Rogers talking about when he worked on that last F Punk album. And he calls him the robots and stuff very casually. It's Paul Williams in the speech.

Yeah. The robots. No, I'm here with a bunch of robots. Right. I like the original cartoon anime footage from the one album, like the music videos, where they were like animated. It's like blue aliens. And that air-dotted doll swim months at like one or two in the morning. And it was like summer in high school. And I was like, I don't know what the hell is going on. But I like that. I had no idea. I didn't know about the mythology. I didn't know about the albums. I'm sure.

And you were in the window of time where you were noting new music. It was still in that zone. Oh, yeah. Soon to conclude. I was trying to note. I was trying to note. But adult swim in the local TV guide. It wasn't explaining it. Right. Before you wrapped it up and stuck to the soundtrack of Mame. Mame or Mike was driving us over the other night from James birth. James was making fun of me because December its song came on his shuffle. Oh, I had shuffle on. Yeah, shuffle on.

I go, I had some jason. Jason likes this nerds. I was like, these guys are so smart. You hear these lyrics? And I'm like, yeah, they say your shuffle. They sing C-shanties. They sing C-shanties. Being able to make fun of Jason doesn't mean I'm not being a hippopotamus. You're not all say sure. You were right. Well, same goes for me. Well, same goes for me. Three wife of what? Of course. I like them. Well, I dig it.

I don't think either of these have needed a lot of course correction and defensive. Yeah. Understanding the assignment. I think, yeah, I think you're on to something. And that whole, well, look, here's the thing. I think you will find some crossover with mine. Sure. And this was some of the, some of the, if we all go off and think separately. Maybe it really illuminates some areas that are, I don't know, like key areas, I guess, that they could and should do.

Right. So I guess with that, we can get into mine. I'm trying to think any caveats. I mean, even, you know, I feel like maybe this assignment gives you the most, at least I took it to be, you know, there's the most room for putting your own narrative voice and opinions and taste into. Right. So I think you'll find that there are some things that are very much the things I want, but I don't think entirely.

I think it's a crowd pleaser to, and I, you know, feel free to interrupt because I think I am going to try to go a little bit tomorrow. Oh, please. Let's not that I'm even in the same league, but let's see what I can, if I can get steaming and make everybody else get steaming.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Remember when we dreamed of a better tomorrow, a tomorrow without limits, a tomorrow that acknowledges and celebrates yesterday, but isn't stuck in it, a tomorrow that doesn't merely imagine the near future, but rather millennia beyond. Welcome to tomorrow land 3055. Wow. That clears it. That's fine. 30 tomorrow land 3055, a visionary hub of innovation, transportation and imagination.

Tomorrow land 35 in an unprecedented decision, certainly not said half an hour ago, will deliver on the promise of an intergalactic ports where mind blowing vehicles and astounding technology let you rocket to the stars and beyond an unforgettable visits to our planet by astounding beings from across the cosmos.

The experience begins before you even set foot on an attraction where during the day, a refurbished repainted white chrome and crystal color scheme has finally unified the land aesthetically. And at night, I popping LED screens turned the land aquamarine purple blue and magenta in a light show that rivals new spaceship Earth, sphere or the streets of Tokyo. I mean, is that shit like just writing it up? Of course, they can at least get to LA live. Can we not get to LA live? Of course.

Can we not get to LA live? Just imagine this is the Aaron Sorkin Danny Boyle movie Steve Jobs and you and our standing on the side of the stage and Steve Jobs and where just there going like he's doing it. He's really doing it. That's what I felt. I was wrong. Yeah, put it into a movie reference. Yeah, the structure of this has been split into three much like that film. That's by the way, that's expect what you said is expensive. Yeah, sure. I guess that's the reason that I was done.

Let's fuck it. Let's go. Some fucking crappy mall can do it. I can do it. Okay, guests will immediately note the wide open space thanks to the absence of the astra orbiter in the entryway. Of course. Did it go back atop the central tower replacing the observatron, not or I'm sorry, the orbit on. Orbit on. Not quite. The highest point in tomorrow land now belongs to a brand new attraction concept, abduction point inspired by a never built Tokyo attraction.

This high in the sky dropped tower beams guests up toward a hovering alien craft only to plummet back towards earth offering stunning views of the entire park along the way and a dazzling light show from the UFO's beams. We touched on this with this was not fleshed out to that extent. I mentioned it really quick at the end of like the unbuttoned tomorrow in 2555. I thought that's such a fucking cool like a tower of two.

And this would be kind of like a mini version like more like a not carnival ish but like closer to whatever that California venture one was called. But you know, but like elevate, you know, we don't need a circular. We don't need another dumbbell. Let's do something new. Well, in a way, yeah, you're also looking at something that actually then becomes a decoration in the way that other things in tomorrow land would be. So it is a ride, but primarily it's for a kinetic energy.

It's primarily for the lights and into really add to the atmosphere. A thousand percent. Absolutely. If these things, I think you'll find that throughout if the rides as light shows and depictions of transportation technology. It's a weeny. It's like, you know what? I think this is I think there's like more there's like more centerpiece attractions, but this is the weeny.

This is the weeny in the way that MGM studios then Hollywood studios kept changing like, oh, that your full tower is the weeny. The big surgers had no, it's actually terror. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And much like Disney studios, I am keeping Star Wars launch bay. Absolutely. That would have been a bold choice. That would have been a bold choice. That would have been a good, yeah. All right, all right, all right, all right.

We're blowing up galaxy's edge and keeping only the launch bay boiling it down to its acid. Wow. Okay, perhaps while caught in that UFO beam, you looked over and noticed the nearby lagoon. The water seems cleaner and also more active. That's because the submarines have made way for a Tokyo Disney sea audience favorite aquatopia. Oh, no more slow loading claustrophobic tubes. Now guests will travel open air in personal trackless hovercraft, whizzing and splashing above the water.

Jason, you're aware of this. Mike, you've seen this attraction. Doesn't that say it? Like, let's like, let's keep it, you know, let's keep water. But it's that, like, that's a futuristic water attraction that's more fun than any of this stuff around here. Let's do it. Yes. Is it the rides? Is there a thin amount of water? Like a shallow water at aquatopia? There's a TikTok of a cast member walking out onto the water. Right, right. So you're going to have to develop new technology perhaps.

Well, I think you, I think it's like you redo the lagoon. Oh, fill up the lagoon. Yeah, yeah, you just keep the lagoon atmosphere in five because that, you know, I'm not, as I think you'll find throughout, I'm not necessarily blowing it all up and starting over. Right. Because I do love Tamariland. There's a lot that I love about the bones of Tamariland.

And that's, but, you know, another version, and I might be curious to hear when all said and done, what would be good ideas if we were blowing it all up? Right. But I'm not the person to do that because I love Tamariland. I think it was a lot that was great about Tamariland. The first time I ever went to the place in 1988, and I think it's a matter of restoring and building back.

Because if I had your assignment, I think I would have said, first things first, we're leveling all of it to the ground. Well, this is what, let's, let's play that out after I've done. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's probably the one thing. Yeah, that is different between how you and I would have done it. Okay. So, aquatopia will delight guests with a showcase of clean energy so thoroughly that they aren't upset that we have eliminated at Atopia. Don't care if it's electric. It's going away.

A lot of cancel. A lot of real estate. It is a lot of real estate. And I have been very gracious despite this being a Tamariland project. I have donated the top half of the Atopia property to Fantasy Land in order to build. And this was a tough choice, but I ended up landing on Beauty and the Beast. Oh, wow. That's what we've added to Fantasy Land. I have taken, yes. I mean, if you consider all of Atopia to be Tamariland, yeah, I think this is worth an annex.

I think it makes a lot of room. There's not room for full new Fantasy Land up there. So, I was like, let me pick the best of the best and something that I don't think needs the full real estate of Disneyland forward. Because I like the frozen stuff aesthetically. There's another fairy tale. I mean, there's like tangled, all that fantasy springs stuff.

But I'd rather just take all that new land, do all of fantasy springs over there. And let's just like take the best of the best that could work in Fantasy Land. I think that's Beauty and the Beast. The Beast Castle will blend perfectly into Aquatopia with a new backdrop of forests and waterfalls. I think that'll all blend and look nice next to Matterhorn.

Elsewhere, cherished classics remain, but with fan favorite enhancements. Star Tours is still bustling, but one cabin has been permanently converted to a restored enhanced version of the original Star Tours journey complete with our old pal Captain Rex. Yeah, good. Very good. Just one. And then the rest are still interactive. Sure. And you don't know if you're going to end up in that even though certain guests, you might be looking at one, will demand to always go on the Rex one.

They'll have to figure out how they'll handle the amount of requests to go on the old one. Well, I think the biggest thing in their corner will be that everybody who, excuse me, could I do all of the Rex demanders will be such pushovers that they'll wait wherever they have to wait as long as they need to be able to spot them. You'll be able to spot them in line. Well, it will become a contest between cast members of like, all right, whichever one of them is crying the hardest gets to go.

You know what actually would be good is every car had a different person by piloting it like C three peels in one. Yes. And then there's different. Yes. Yes. Forlom, the bounty hunter is in one or something. Forlom, the bounty hunter. Forlom, yeah. I mean, seems like a fun place for Grogu. Let's figure out how to make him pilot. Right. He's got to sit on a couple of crates. Yeah. Let's do it. Yeah. If he's a little clumsy piloting, but he keeps moving stuff out of the way with force.

Yeah. So it works. Wow. If you sort of go wreck like it's original trailer one, one cabin is original. One is prequel. One is new. Yeah. One is or TV. Whatever. You know, I have like post 2015 essentially. And then one is old school Disneyland with rights. That's good. And now we're covering everything. And then we're going to make a quick break. And one of them. Cool. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Or just give him a seat. Just like, you know, he just gets to sit and enjoy it like us.

And you just got him. Really make sure people don't squish him. Can I say real quick about this D23 star speeder toy that's coming out that's exclusive. There's only, they're only thinking three thousand of them that actually plays the original star tours movie and a little ride. We know how much do we know we do know how much oh, oh, how much it costs know how much how much of the I think it's all of the ride. It plays the entire year. I believe it's like a toy re-release of a restored.

Yes. It's an LCD. It's got little seat belts. It's got a little you can click the seat belts. I don't know if it's each one or it just may be a row. You can just click the row. Click the row. I don't know if there's a tiny dirty little yellow strap. I don't know about that either. I know it's an original like it's not like a redo of one of the old star speeder toys. Wow. And I think this is of all the toy chats I have.

This is the one that almost like is universally being purchased by all these toy people I know. They say it will be on sale in person but also online Monday. But who knows how many of these will have 300 dollars. It's actually not so. It's not. It's not. I go all by and keep it in the box and if I need to like just pay for a medical bill. I need the dog gets. I need to have that'll do that'll go a third of the way. Yeah, that's basically my philosophy going in that's smart. Okay. Space Mountain.

I'm not blowing it up. I like the current space mountain plenty. I think that I think even in a blue sky version there's a lot that I'm too addicted to. But I have made a crucial change. If a visitor named Mike Carlson asks a cast member nicely they will turn on the God damn red hot chili peppers. Thank you. That's really nice. It's back. Only if you ask for it much like the robots that check each is in Northridge and mostly will not be asked for.

Any song by like I like to get it to choose a song to or it has to be one of the old. Don't don't push your luck. It's whatever it was before. It's people. Yeah, it was the higher ground cover. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, all right. So that's okay. So here already we now have a thriving land of UFOs, hovercraft rockets, star speeders and of course monorails. Hey, let's redo that. I didn't think about it. Let's redo that station. That signage is dumb. It's like a little bit steam punky. Don't make it.

It's all. It's white. It's white. It's silver. We're going simple here. Right. With a lot of LED, of course. But we have missed one big vehicle, probably the centerpiece of the whole thing, light cycles. An entire mini land within tomorrow land 3055 will be the Tron game grid. The centerpiece of this, of course, will be Tron light cycle run 2.0. Wow. That's right. It is elevated. It is lifted up. It is no mere carbon copy of Magic Kingdom and Shanghai's Tron light cycle run.

This is a brand new experience tailor made for the tomorrow land Disneyland space. So the former Carousel theater will be raised to the ground, much like Mike's version in order to build a new towering queue building and launch site combining the neon aesthetics of Tron and the never built crystal cubism of Lucas ports. A little bit of flavor of that cool Lucas port concept. Did it talk about it in the second gate if you haven't heard it look it up.

A slash venture port at a couple of names, but like big, cool crystal building, almost like journey into imagination building, but better. Yeah. You know what? I completely, I had that thought for the restaurant in my pitch with that aesthetic, but I completely forgot to write it down. We were, I think we're thinking, this is where the parallel thinking I think is great. I, I, I, I, I felt like you maybe keep that because I like aesthetically the carousel building.

I think there's a way to, but also just the land it sits on and like, yeah, as they found with parking structures when you don't have a lot of space, what do you do? You build up, right? And I think tomorrow land is a great place to build up. I think there's been a lot of advances to in compact roller like getting a lot of thrill out of a compact coaster. Sure. Sure. Well, that is my question, unless you're about to go there. Oh, yeah, yeah. I did, I'll explain.

I'll take it there, but poke holes in this because this one might have the biggest, sure, logic holes. So on the top floor of the Tron game grid building, a permanent end of line club straight out of the electronic event where you can dance to electronic beats, drink glow-heetos as well as actual drinks for grown-ups. And taking the highest in-park view of fireworks available. Wow. The end of line club will be amazing and open and available to all guests, not some DVC bullshit.

Nice. Nice. That's for every one. Yeah, great. Oh, and also part of this, in this new land, the little UFO booth that's kind of as you get it, like next to the unused people move for tower. There's a UFO, we're like an umbrella, where you learn about a DVC pricing, and this will be personally put into a shredding machine by me. I will insist on myself getting rid of this stupid fucking techy booth.

You know, that is the first mention of umbrellas or awnings or shade that I'm hoping any one of these tomorrow's lands, like might address down the line. Oh, this is a little too brutalist heat-wise. You know, it's a lot of cement. I guess so. And metal. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you lose that with the people move or track. Yeah. Maybe some of the other, maybe the other check I'm talking about.

Okay, before I get to the light cycles, another part of the game grid is alien pizza planet becomes Flynn's barcade. An amended concept like Jason referred to earlier. This is an indoor outdoor space where the whole family can eat, drink, one not the whole family can drink. You know what I'm saying?

And play both modern and old school video games, often hopefully customized games from within the Disney universe, Tron, Fixit Felix, a Toy Story alien claw game, acknowledging the Toy Story history of that space. You can do the Zerg game from the cold open of Toy Story 2. Oh, yeah. Maybe you always lose, you always get blasted. And then your little legs dropped to the ground in Zerg laughs. There's no way to win the game. But putting all the Disney video games in one place.

And this is the thing. I'm not trying to just please myself with some of these things. I'm trying to like think country bear style. Right. And you know, how do we fold Disney IP into itself? So, oh, and also they do still serve pizza, but it is no longer trash. Oh, okay. So it's good. They do good. Upgrade. Yes. By reaching out to acclaimed chef anyone, we can finally get some good pizza. Buy a claim chef.

Your stepmom got a pizza stone for Christmas and wants to try it out with some Trader Joe's dough. And there's a bottle of Francesca Renolli in the piano tree. Absolutely. Done. Here's that mom. She's in. So, now let's talk light cycles inspired by the original route of the people mover. Tron light cycles will take a winding path that traverses all of tomorrow land. Once aboard, your light cycle will launch past space mountain out of Disney light.

Love Disneyland out of the park into a glowing canopy much like what is in Shanghai and Magic Kingdom. But this is built in the former bus and transportation zone off harbor. That sequence, that big launch and loop and the glowing light show all happens in the, would not the hub, the Esplanade. It takes over part of the Esplanade, which I think frankly makes more sense for this zone and is cooler than a Pandora expansion. I want Pandora over in Disneyland forward.

I don't want this, the Pandora to be cramped at all. I don't really get that coming out of that part of the park. Now, this portion of the ride doubles as a stunning free light show for guests arriving from harbor boulevard and even non-paying guests on their way to downtown Disney. You are using some of your blues guy to make public art. That's right. That's right. So, making gay giving back. Yes. What is that to a zone that is kind of like, look, we haven't done the harbor hold down yet.

We may never do the harbor hold down. Is one possibility? Oh, that's one blue sky. But, you know, aesthetics are not always the best around that place. Yeah. And especially now, like, in a way, I'm sad to see the bus zone. I do think that bus zone is going to go. And I have had nice memories there because that's why I've been doing it. I've been doing a hotel that's a little ways away and I take a shuttle, but the shuttle drops you right there.

And I kind of don't like that the bus is going across. It's going to add to hassle a little bit, but I do want it for park. And the idea of a light show that the public gets that also lures you in. That's a weeny that's outside Disneyland. That's like, what's the rest of this thing, do? That's interesting. Yeah, I wonder what the vibe of that area, like, is it going to be like when you're in different parts of Tokyo or Vegas or something?

Where it's like a neon sign, essentially, for Disneyland, I guess. Well, you know what it is? Is it's a big advertisement that tomorrow land is back in business. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely like, well, here's the thing. I think there'd be enough separation between that and then like where you have to get train station, Mickey Mouse to get. You know, there's like space between those.

Well, so it's not like, you know, if it's kind of a different vibe than the rest of Esplanade, I think it's okay. I think it's cool. Well, the way it's described, the way that the parking situation will as described is that there's going to be a big parking garage. And this is the thing that Eastern Gateway project that was called. Yeah. It was going to be on the other side of Harbor, and then we're going to build a big parking garage there.

And then you're going to have all your security over there. Right. And then you're going to walk across a bridge just right into the Esplanade. It's no security. So you can make that walkway a lot more narrow. Yeah. So you have to go away a row after row of metal detectors, right? Right. It needs nothing. So obviously it needs to be big enough for people to walk to and fro, but you can have a lot of room on both sides to do stuff.

I think maybe with this plan, you still get a little room for California adventure to expand too. So you could get a little, yeah, it could be something a little bit 25 even. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I like that. I think we talked about if Zootopia is a rumor over there, that's cool. You get a little extra Zootopia. Yeah. What if they did something we neglected in the betting episode? There's people who think and want that maybe we get a Monsters Inc. door coaster. That's been for that.

I think it's been 20 years. I've heard monsters in the door coaster. I don't see any reason other than it beats fun to think about that it would be now. Yeah. But like imagine if you sort of, what if you did a better big remonstrapple show there in DCA? That's fine. I just want, I don't want Avatar, I don't want Pandora to be stifled. We already said room two. Why would that go there? Yeah. That doesn't make any sense. We might find out tomorrow that it is there.

I will be shocked if that happens. It doesn't feel right. That feels very online rumor. It is not really. I don't like it. It's the fact that he kept calling it an experience and not an attraction. Well, there isn't a attraction. But we're getting, no, we got consequences. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna try to vote right now. And I want a lot of room for that thing. That needs to be where it has room two bridge. But it's got to be the sea now. You know, yes. I need room to splash and swim free.

And experience all the wonders of life with the great mighty Tokun. I, we need some Tokun animatronics. We get a physical. A big Tokun. A real Piacon. I'll be happy to visit any Piacon. But the ability to hug Piacon would certainly. Oh, this isn't Blue Skying Avatar said. I know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I could change plans. No more beating in the beast. It's, it goes over there. That's it. That's technically in my confines. You could go like a nod to Disneyland, like the storybook boats.

Storybook can now boats. You could go into a toll coupons now. Piacons now. Or you could take inspiration from islands of adventure when you used to be able to meet the triceratops. And you could pet like, uh, Piacon is coming for his daily. Hello. He's coming for his little pets. He's coming for his little pets. Oh, that relaxes me so much thinking about being a ulcer. He's going up like to do a Piacon encounter. Yeah. Tell him my darkest secrets. I can trust you with this.

Isn't that right, boy? I'm like, you're the little girl in once upon a time in Hollywood and you like whisper, you're the best Piacon ever seen her. Piacons start sobbing like take care of her. Okay. So where was I? Okay. So yeah, that's that big initial. That's the big exciting start. It gets you a, we get extra space. It takes you out of the park.

But from there, the ride turns back into Marlant and speeds all through Disneyland's eastern half over the two main show buildings in to Marlant on to Maro Avenue, a dramatic curve across the hub that serves as the entry arch for tomorrow land, 25th or 3055. Show scene tunnels that revitalize long unused spaces like the second floor of the starcade. You'll criss-cross around the monorail tracks and even take in a dizzying loop all the way around the Matterhorn. Wow. Yeah, very good. Very good.

You're down big loop. You feel like inches away from it. How about that? So you'll see that from Main Street, obviously. Oh, I guess you could. Yeah, sure. Yeah, why not? You could see the astro-orbiter from Main Street and it stinks. True. Let's get something cool. It doesn't make any sense to see this. That's the spirit to me is like, doesn't make any sense to see a mountain from Main Street. But why not? It doesn't make any sense to see a castle from Main Street.

But we're making it all happen. Is there any way you could theme the outside of it to look more Matterhorn? Like it belongs when you're seeing the matter from a certain angle. Like a slalom tunnel. It looks like a tunnel of something. Like how? You're worried about a clash. I am worried about a clash. Over there. That's a fair note. Well, then I'm glad I didn't take it all the way. I was thinking, here's- You want to get really blue sky? Yeah. Matterhorn rebuilt from the ground up.

I was thinking about it. I don't know if that counts. It's kind of fantasy land. But yeah, you've mentioned that it's one of those structural things. What if we do it now? What if it's the sturdiest building ever built? It's got room for a properly working Yeti. Oh, wow. We get the Yeti in there and or a bominable of fide, whatever. But I was thinking, what if Tron Light cycles go through the Matterhorn? Yeah, it'd be awesome. Yeah. Well, if you're in favor of it, let's do it.

It's a version where it's been rebuilt that you can really kind of hide it in the way I'm thinking. So it won't be so- Like, why is there a space motorcycle going in front of the Matterhorn when I'm looking at it from the street? I agree with you. Except that's another, as I was starting to say, I think that's, you know, why is there a train going through a dinosaur world? Why is there a- I mean, a skyway is kind of like Swiss chalet.

I think actually the spirit of light cycles go through the Matterhorn is what's missing. I think that's what that is like original Disneyland thinking of it. Yeah, skyway went through it. Yeah. Yeah, you're saying. And if you're really that concerned, you put like a video wall, you make it look like a video wall for like a Gran Budapest Hotel style, like a regular going up the Matterhorn, but it's really the light cycles going inside the tunnel, you know?

Yeah, I don't know the pitch on like how to mask it at all, but the more I think about it, the more I'm like, I just want to proudly have things that don't quite match. Because I think there's great moments in Disneyland attraction combining that don't quite, and that don't quite line up, and I think it's great. It's like a child's imagination when the X-Men meet the GI Joe and the meet the turtles. That's right. Like when a cowboy plays with a space man and a Mr. Potato Head and a dinosaur.

Well, there we are. And it's the most magical combining of all these universes altogether. I'm trying to think what like a light you would expect, like a red flare light. So it's almost like when the bike goes around and hits into like the Matterhorn, it almost like turns like red. So it's almost like you see a flare coming off the mountain in the distance. Oh, sure. Like somebody is seeking rescue. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Like something like that.

Like in the, because I guess when you first described it, I was like almost like, okay, it just kind of goes like in front of it. But yeah, if you could do something that like from the distance looks like it's kind of themed to the Matterhorn more. Sure. And it gives it some energy. Yeah. And then obviously when you're riding it and you're seeing it, it's just you're going through it. You're on a space motorcycle. Yeah. And then you're on a space motorcycle. I mean, I hear you.

There's something weird about it, but maybe maybe it's a good kind of weird. I just think I, for whatever reason, I'm hop on far away seeing it and it's not looking right. Blue sky, whatever. I'm not saying it's a bad idea. There's also a version where, but it also does, it does not, maybe not from, maybe not from the hub, but do we not get already like monorail right now, like monorail doesn't make sense next to Matterhorn technically. That's true. Yeah. That's true. I don't know.

I think it's worth an adjust. You're not wrong, but my argument is just to try to fight for it might be a fuck it. Let's do it in be legends. I think the electric flow is very cool. I think the electric flow is very cool. The aesthetic with the weight of the snow is off in snow at ice. The new building of Matterhorn going in and out of it though I'm on board for. I was just sort of thinking of other ways to make it look. To bring that back that a better ride goes through.

For whatever reason I was hung up on the old Matterhorn just sort of having a tron thing in front of it. Whatever reason. Yeah. Okay. Somehow through. I'm like, prize that that. Okay. Well, then we're doing that. All right. New Matterhorn yet he's in there and light cycle. Let's go through it. Sure. Yeah, great. Hell yeah. We'll blend it. That's for them to engineer. Anyway, this is an e-ticket and visual spectacle that pumps life through all of Tomorrowland and beyond.

But by making the light cycles kind of the. Now that's the track that we've through all of Tomorrowland. Are we now ignoring the need for a mellow, slow moving family friendly experience? I say hardly because Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters will say goodbye. What was the phrase? Glitch going away. I don't know why these that. Glitch going away forever to make way for a brand new journey through the world of Wally. Wally is coming to my tomorrow land in Wally's cosmic directive. Feel free to.

We'll workshop this. I can quite land on what. But the word directives part of the movie. Guess we'll follow Wally and Eve's journey from Earth to space and back aboard the axiom and the returning path. And even go past the events of the film to see how Wally and his robot pals revive Earth with plant life. Imagine a pleasant slow moving dark ride that takes you to space where an adorable, creaky, voiced pal uses his healing touch to turn a planet green. Oh, what an interesting.

The merging, guys, makes itself like Wally or Eva, like holding a little plant. And if you, Jason, I know that you like to bring or want to bring little plants home from theme parks. If you could do it in a boot in a Wally boot. Oh, you know what? That's a good little. The boot? That's a good. I think this lived entirely in club three. The notion presented by Griffin, not me, that people liked. They liked it.

The notion that living with the land gets a nice subtle Wally overlay that uses this, because Wally is the bridge between technology and future and plants. He ties it all together. It could be subtle, it could be nice, it could be additive, and then you go home with your boot with a little simple plant in it. Cool. Cool. I didn't even think about that aspect of it. That is great. And that is not just like with apologies to the star speeder, which sounds great and everything like it.

That's not just a piece of plastic. That's now you go home and you're making nature happen when you live. This is beautiful. Beautiful, yeah. Okay, okay. Oh, I've been to them. Does Wally have any new character you've created that's like a teacher of his or anything? Oh shoot. Eric! Wally needs your help. Not Eric. Eric's on mine. I would like Wally's Figment's brother. He's not Wally's teacher. Different character. Okay. I would like a very stiff Andrew Stanton to do a pre-show video.

We don't know much time. We have to be quick. Wally needs your help. Okay. You can help Wally. He would love that. He's a park sky, isn't he? Yeah. He's right to work day this like, join Colfee Tablebook, I think. Oh really? There's something like that one of the Pixar guys. I think he's got it in him to be as charismatic as Steven Spielberg. I believe so. Which is to say limited, but that's what I love. Is it the limited?

Yeah. Okay. So the ride's exit could perfectly transition into a stacked hydroponic garden. I'm going a little living with the land here. Yeah, exactly. It forms a lush environment for a reimagined galactic grill. I think, or some Arlanteras, whatever you're calling it. Still quick service, but now serving entirely sustainably grown food. We're eating healthy there now. It's fast, but it's healthy, and they have to commit to it.

They can't say they're doing that and then make the food get worse as it goes. But it's like good fresh, farm grown ingredients. Let's turn that into a good restaurant that is the aftermath. And in the, you know what? It's not consumerist. That's the message of Wally, right? It can't be a gift shop other than getting the plant in the boot. It has to take you into, I mean, it's consumerist because you're in Disneyland and you're buying food at a restaurant. But it's not a gift shop.

It's a place where you go eat from the earth you see, which Wally has made possible for you. You should make available the boot alacart. But with seeds just in case people don't want to lug soil home. Oh, sure. But the boot alacart, especially for international travelers, might have restrictions on bringing like plant life into their country. This is a very, very good thing that you thought of. It's a good, a good logistical issue and I really like the phrase boot alacart.

Yeah. A lot of good stuff. Well, it's what I end up catching down at the pond when I'm not catching the eels. I wish they'd throw in French, rise and cold solve, but it just don't happen. Now, I've missed one aspect of this attraction, the ride vehicle. The ride vehicle is an updated and restored people mover. Wow. The people mover is the ride vehicle in the Wally ride, allowing a high capacity, relaxing experience for the whole family.

This is a ride with heart, the dreams of a better future for our planet. But it's not the only heart in Tomorrowland 3055 and for that we turn to the long ignored, but not destroyed, magic eye theater. The fact is I can't do, I can't blow it up. I can't make a new space mountain because I love that area of that space mountain atrium with the big metal bars that feels like an 80s airport. I love it too much. It's too much core memory for me.

I want to make it work. That's why we got some of barcade in there. Right. And then what we have is a world-class venue that will no longer be limited to previews of movies that have been out for years. In fact, it will no longer be limited to movies at all because it will now be home to a little attraction called Plectus Fantastic Intergalactic Review. Wow. I'm getting a lot of Tomorrowland 2055 in here and it's not just due to nostalgia and nostalgia for what never was.

I think it can work now today. And I don't think that has to be carousel theater. I think honestly you have to build less animatronics this way, but you are still building animatronics. God damn it, of course you are. Because this is a new country bear, jamboree type animatronic and film show. You can still screen it, but let's update those screens. A teaming with aliens and robots from across the Disney Universe. One thing we have to figure out is who is Plectu? What is Plectu?

And I've decided that Plectu is the ringleader of this whole thing and he is part of the same species as Skippy from Alien and Counter. Oh, there we go. Yes, he is a Skippy. Apparently his species, here's what's happening. My laptop has auto corrected so much of the... In doing this, I had to teach my computer what autopia is and what Plectu is. Oh, yeah. Let's tell me that these aren't words, but they are words. I'm teaching my computer. My phone tried to correct Chuchu to chop chop.

And I'm like, you what? I must have typed Chuchu before. I need to know the context in which you were trying to send a message to someone with Chuchu. Great question. Jane was sending me a tweet about how there's a tiny big Thunder Mountain playset. You can buy a Tokyo Disney now. Oh, I saw. And I wrote back Chuchu. Very good. This is a text for the ages. Anyway, this thing was trying to auto correct the species that Skippy is, which is, I can say, proudly, Fluthmogoon Cliffhugger.

That is the species. Now we know. Somehow didn't come up and we talked about Alien and Counter years ago. So, this Cliffhugger, despite his small stature, is the most revered musical mind in this or any galaxy. And using the power of teleportation, PLEC-DU has prepared an incredible show featuring all the greatest musicians and performers across the known universe. This is now a show, a review that features Sonia Clips. Whoa. He's in it. You said him before, Max Rebo. Max Rebo is in it.

They own it. He's in it. The Cantina band is in it. Why not? Figuring dead. They own it. Why was there not a show that puts all this stuff together? I hear you. Here's where, let me take a deep breath and say that the main backing band, the Reckon crew of this show, will be Hooter, I-D-N-O-D, Major and Minor Domo, Fuzzball, Captain E.O.'s pals, who all play music and turn into instruments at the end of Captain E.O. It's the theater where Captain E.O happened. This will be a great band.

We know that they can bring it. And they will finally be freed from the tyrannical clutches of their problematic Captain. Right. Free to do their own thing. This was the thing I thought about, too. Oh, yeah. They don't work for him anymore. I guess we could just make a new movie with a different Captain E.O. in there. That was a pitch I was thinking about. Yeah, yeah. But it's, I don't know, maybe. Let's just take these characters. They're just, they're just, they're drums.

They're living keyboards now. Sure. Unless you think that this is only for dorks and nostalgic for the 80s, this can also be a vessel to tie together all kinds of Disney IP. The Toy Story Aliens could be in it. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Baymax, Stitch can do an Elvis song. They own the Muppets. They could have the Yip Yip Aliens. Oh, yeah. But the Yip Yips in it. Yeah. They do with some Yip Yip songs. Big Pigs in Space. Yeah. Hey, sure. Sure. Yes. Yes. And you know what?

And it doesn't all have to be like, they don't all have to have a song associated with them. Right. I think we can draw from the Disney library. Well, hey, why not do original stuff, dude? I mean, there's lots of possibilities musically here. You know, hey, you know who's an alien? The Navi Shaman of Song. What are the Navi Shaman of Song showed up? Wow. And her own thing. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. She could do a duet with her.

I would love to see her get a full-tuxedo pulling a Seth Mac Farlin and singing some, like, saying beyond the sea or something. Yeah. Well, what's like a good, you know, I mean, Randy Newman is the soundtrack of the Toy Story world, you know, like a really heavy, I don't know, living without you or something. Somebody's aurg. Yeah. We have to go without his son for so many years. It's so hard. Musically, I mean, this could be a way, this, I want to tie it together.

The whole sci-fi Disney space of verse three. You could do like the universe of energy song. And you like, I've got music could be part of this. You know what could be part of this? Also paying tribute to the legacy of this very spot, Halix. We could do Halix songs. They own the Halix songs. It's a mad, like, to finally use, it's such a, like, fucking movie previews for years in the place where Halix and Captain Eo happened. We're fixing this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yes. I think it's a great idea to have a song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. I thought about Halix too, but I was like, they wouldn't do it. I know they, but I don't know. They pay attention to stuff. The die, this, the documentary is a huge hit. That was a, that's a massive YouTube. People bring that up to me. That's been a way to like, reconnect with people who I haven't seen in years. Is it like, I saw you in that Halix documentary. Wow. That's wild that that is a thing that's getting around that.

I'm so happy. Right, rightfully so. Matthew Kevin did such a great job. But anyway, Halix can be here. Where else could it build, but great, great, big, beautiful tomorrow? Wow. Now we're revitalizing all of these things that they own and they could be doing something with like a Skrillex version of great, big, beautiful tomorrow. Daps, of course. Yes. Let's Skrillex go to town on that baby. Finally, make it a good song, right, Jason? Yeah. You know, we're trying to needle you and fail.

Oh, we could, we could really nod to Disney history. You could get Devo 3.0 in here. Even younger children singing the hits of Devo. And I'm a tronic Devo 3.0. And yet, somehow, and this is not an alien thing, but does this not feel like a put, if we're going to have lots of alien races and different types of robots all working together and singing together in harmony, would not a great way to sum this all up be if we listen to each other. Let's do that. Let's do that. Ida I is the finale.

I think they're dying. I think they need a permanent spot for Ida I somewhere in the park. They've got a music version of Ida I playing in Tuntown. Really? Yeah. Great, great. And there's some like music version of like, is that in the queue? Is that like out in the mountain? That's out in the grass. Yeah. But they have like, yeah, duck tails and chip and Dale music themes. Oh, cool. And Mickey Mouse Clubhouse songs, which now I'm very aware of. Oh, okay. Oh, good. Digging to Dog by.

They might be giants. Oh, which plays on the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. Wow, wow, wow. Okay. Okay. Anyway, this good, of course, also be installed at Epcot's Magic Guide Theater. Yeah. We don't have to limit ourselves to, I mean, space-wise, who fucking knows, but figure it out. They'll figure it out. They'll figure it out. It also, some of it could be screens. If we go really good screens, we go, born-stuntacular screens.

Maybe now we, I don't know, if we're limited in space, it could be a mix of animatronics and just really good, you know, screen technology. Also, here's a thought too. If we're, of course, we all love this. It's very 80s, 90s. If ultimately, if somehow, this is not seized upon by the world, I have another idea. Because to do this right, you'd have to do a full refresh of the seating and the sound for this theater. You'd put immersive speakers next to every seat.

During the day, this would create incredible quality for the music for Plechtus Intergalactic Review. But at night, it could enable an entire second show. Imagine a monster's after dark night only. Perhaps Halloween only, or maybe it expands. But imagine if the same space passed a certain hour, transformed into an experience, only for adults and the bravest of children, a reimagined alien encounter. Oh, wow. In this theater. In the same, wow. Theater. In this theater.

I guess that had harnesses before, but whatever. I think you'd re, you'd, I don't know, you could discombobulate it. Just do something new with it. But sort of that idea, and I haven't flushed this out thoroughly. But imagine if now it finally is featuring the true alien, now the property of Disney, as it was meant to be in this neck of the park, the Xenomorph is actually in a new reimagined alien encounter. Wow. Yeah, that would be very cool.

I also thought a little bit about some of that alien stuff, and I was, I guess really, like you could have put like a mind, buzz like you could have done like a cartoon Xenomorph. Oh, sure. But then, a cute issue. Are we aware real quick of the Haunted Mansion crusty reference that's been removed? No. And Haunted Mansion holiday on one of the boxes where like the Jack in the box pops out, there's a kind of haunted looking crusty, the clown on the box. And people pointed it out right away.

Oh, this is a Simpsons reference in a Disney park. And the Haunted Mansion. People pointed out right away three or four days later, gone. Wow. Wow. Geez, I wonder what is that mean? I don't know. Wait a minute. Is the Tim Burton Batman Returns Duck in there? The Timy Toy Duck. Do you know about this? In the Haunted Mansion. In the Haunted Mansion. There's a small duck that looks like the penguins giant duck. I did not see that. It's been there for years. Oh, what?

Yeah. What is it just a duck looking thing? It looks like the duck. Okay. Looks like the vehicle. So it's a little reference because Tim was produced. It's a little nod because Tim Burton, yeah. Oh, I'm waiting for it. But it's sort of like the Mr. Limpetfish. It's not official, yeah. It's not official enough. I see. You know what I mean? He doesn't own Mr. Limpet yet. The character is on the Snow White or Snow White. It's been a long record, I guess. A little mermaid, right? Little mermaid.

Oh, they don't, and they don't own Limpet. That's a person cut. Wow. Wow. Yeah. But he's just, he's not lit up, Mr. Limpet, on the little mermaid ride. And you have to know where to look. And that's definitely one of my top. Grab the person next to me by the arm and shake the arm and tell them, look. It's Mr. Limpet. The character Mr. Limpet. And they're like, what is that? Yeah, of course. I was born in the 1980s. What is that? What's wrong with you? Are you a time traveler?

Your daughter just responds with, eh. Yeah. So brand new attractions, revitalized favorites from Tomorrowland's past and never built. Light speed and slow speed, thrills and heart. It's all waiting in Tomorrowland 3055. My blue sky presentation. That felt emotional writing this. I even just imagining that any of this, I wanted to go so deep in thinking about this, that maybe it lands in my dreams. I want to dream about some of this stuff so bad. I want to too.

I mean, there's a lot of marquee attractions. It's like, it's kind of like that moment at the movies in the middle of summer. It's kind of about now. We're like all the blockpusters and some big indie surprise hits are playing at once. And you're holding movies. All the good old movies. Yeah, well, that's how it should feel. That's how it could feel. I don't, you know, it's like some ideas they've sort of done. It's some blue sky stuff.

And like, as I said, there's enough that I love about what's there and what's been there that I don't want to fully blow it up. I do ask you and maybe just really quick. If you were going to fully blow it up, if you had my assignment, what's the, is there like, do you flash to this thing out entirely? I'm not joking when I say I level the whole, everything goes. Wow. You rebuild space.

I mean, the only thing is like keeping something that looks sort of space mountainish, but I think I would rebuild the whole thing. Yeah. Because I would want whatever that Tokyo space mountain is. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe I should have, but again, I love my atrium. Yeah. I love Star Tours and I don't, you know, I think there's a really good version that's a full blow up, but it's not my version. Yeah. It would be honest. It definitely, I would, I would have blown the whole thing up.

It would have been like two, like two stories, like tomorrow and 2555. Yeah. Well, you know what I thought about is that like you've, you've at least the wally side of things, the former busier side of things, that that could be room for like a, like a Toronto or something, like the show scene happens in there. So you could, maybe you raise that, like that one's gone, Star Tours, I'm keeping though. Right. And then yeah, and then just, yeah, I don't, I don't think, I think the lagoon goes.

I think Autopia goes for me. Yeah. Yeah. And then I think I, another full of people mover is there. It's new space mountain. I think there's, I would add one more e-ticket that would be like in a completely originally ticket. Yeah. That's like, this is all the time I had it like, like some sort of like planetary exploration ride. Okay. Where you're like going through like, I don't know, maybe like a crater and like an asteroid or something. More of an underground sort of.

You're running into aliens and stuff and it could be kind of scary, depending. Could you be like in an astronaut training and Gary Sadeeces there? Gary Sadeeces could be there. Yes. And you're in a G-force like, we call it mission space. Okay. And it could, but it could be good. And it could be more of a dark ride where you come upon aliens and like you're now exploring the surface of a planet. What about like journey to the center of the earth, but it's in space.

Sure. The way it like those cool caves that you, yeah. Yeah. You know what? That is a future aesthetic that isn't mind anywhere is like craters underground. Here's an interesting, this is again, I'm not, I haven't thought this through where, but if you could have it where it was almost like a tower of terror ride system and you could kind of float almost to make it feel your zero gravity. If there was a way, I guess maybe Kukka arm is the way to do it.

But a Kukka arm that wouldn't so kind of aggressively move you around. If it's almost like a Kukka arm that was really gentle, that could kind of float you. Serene feeling. Yeah. So it could kind of float you in front of things and you could get jump scares that way. But then you could get like cool like feeling like you're a zero gravity where you're kind of jumping.

Yeah. That feeling that you'd always, when you see like the footage of the people on the moon, you're like, oh, that would be so cool to be jumping and you have like 10 seconds of hang time. Something like that. Yeah. Like I would have gone with another, yeah, like a complete gravity. Yeah, representing the gravity like on the ground on the moon. Something like that.

Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm obsessed with that patent for that spider probably a spider man ride that was suspending you from the ceiling on kind of like a row of chairs that would have simulated swinging like Spider-Man because it's when we talk about like, well, what would you want from the property with Spider-Man? It's like swinging is the coolest thing if you could actually feel like you were swinging in a practical city, which is what it looked like that ride would have been.

And I guess I guess like a good upper body workouts, also a very cool thing. Well, that's true too. Yeah, having really worn down shoulders. Uh-huh. It's pretty fun. Sure. But yeah, even though I do love the stuff you're talking about in Tomorrowland, I'm like, I'm envisioning like crazy new Tomorrowlands. Well, I almost like, you know, I, I almost feel like I landed that not fully, but I had a lot of like logic in mind. Yes. And keeping infrastructure.

So I almost feel like mine, if there was any failing in what I did, it was that they, like, it was like maybe somewhere between mid and blue sky. Sure. I do like the dreaming of, uh, no, yeah, it's just, it's just, you know, to personal taste I suppose. Sure. But yeah, you're something fully new. I think I am so hung up on what they've wanted the day. I do, I love all of the never built Tomorrowland stuff almost like more than what I think I could come up with myself.

Well, what I love so much of these ideas. Oh, it's great. Well, I think reusing that UFO abduction drop tower is like, I think yours were a lot of E.T.K.S. and honored Disney history and then no idea ever abandoned, you know, what we were both were doing was trying to like, because this is, because there's so much stuff that's gone that we miss or miss because it didn't exist and trying to like encapsulate that sign, trying to, uh, like forge that in iron so it can't go away.

It's, there's a presence like there forever or like, just like a embalm it. So like we can still get little tastes of all the stuff we like from the history of Disney because it feels like so much of that weird stuff is gone. So just trying to sneak it in here and there. Yeah, we're still very IP brand. We like, we need, we know even in a blue sky version, you like want that. But I do love some of this IP. That's the thing. I, uh, Matron, I love the aesthetic of at least.

I do love while I, like in, of all the areas, I think there are a lot and some toy story buzz representation. Yeah. Uh, uh, you know, I don't need it to be free of IP. That's that I love your, your crater, uh, undergratting. That's stuff to top my head or whatever. I know, I know. You can't even have notes. Can you put the guitar down? We don't have it hooked up to the audio. You can't sing. I'm just throwing a G A minor, like D minor. Uh, I feel, I feel like we should wind it down.

But I, um, I mean, I don't think there's any winning or losing here. No. The only losers will be all of us when they don't say anything close to any of what was said. Not even the sod. I actually trying to be faithful to current company. I have been laid off. I've been kicked out of the slack. Oh, no. Channels. You look fired from your fictional job. I was only 1099 anyways. Oh, okay. It's not a push like an official firing. Yeah. Yeah, man. You didn't get insurance anyway.

No, it's a pretty hot. Just free. No, covered California actually got worse because of the increased revenue. Increased income. Oh, boy, I am so sorry for your fixed struggles. Sorry. Somebody thought to my anyone. Uh, uh, what is the most logical thing that they'll announce of all three of these pitches? Is there one thing that one of us is said where you go? Well, that is going to happen. Is there a single thing? I think some, I don't think they will.

I've, the fact that we both landed there, I think something with carousel and space restaurant or something or it's a bar up there. Yeah. Build higher or you make that building cooler. They should. I don't know if they will. But I think if they actually are going to redo all of tomorrow and now I'm like, if they, if they we both landed there means maybe they will too. Maybe, yeah. Uh, but, uh, yeah, what you're right of what was said, what do we think actually will? And man could be the answer.

Yeah, this ride is now watching it. It's nonsense. Like it took me a while to realize like, oh, and man, you're strong. I guess they still have the rule that like Marvel's in California adventure, but I guess that's like an easy thing they've got designed that would fit. And it would be an announcement of something somewhat exciting to. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it's going to be from the or not, right? What do you think from yours, mate?

I, well, from mine, I mean, I don't, I don't think they're going to do my buzz light your idea, but. Uh, I think they could potentially announce just other star tours levels. Yeah, it's possible they could just. I think it's funny. We all got rid of buzz, which I don't know that they're guaranteed to like a buzz the character. Yeah, yeah. So we all agreed something there, which I don't think we've like, yeah, that's true. That's not that I dislike the right.

It's just like there's still possibly something. It needs a refreshing. A little ju, you should something. It needs some juice. Yeah. It's hard to, I can't, I cannot come up with what, I mean, it's something to carousel building, but I'm not sure what. Yeah, maybe yes. Yes, it is something. Is there any possibility that Tron is there and not in the new? I would, this is the whole thing. I'm looking at Google Maps and I'm looking at the footprint of Tron and Magic Kingdom.

And I'm like, it's so big. That's why I went with a deconstructed. I like to be drawn as people, mover. It's kind of both of our ideas in different ways. I really love that idea. I think they should do it. And again, I want as much, I'm just like, let's do shit here so that we can, then it's all free over in Disney and forward. It still feels like if they do a rear, like a bridge Tron or a different Tron, it still feels like they have to build a lot.

Yeah. Like it doesn't feel like there's an easy like plot of land for them to build this new Tron, because it still needs long stretches for it to go fast. Yeah. So, I mean, your idea into the Esplanade, it makes a lot of sense if they're going to, if it's going to go inside with the expansion of that area. So, yeah, I guess it's possible, but I was just looking at it going, ah, it feels like that's a lot of work for them to figure out where to put Tron here.

I don't think you can just do regular light cycle run. You can't. I don't think it's possible. That's why I want them to re-a-man, I want them to do something bold. Yes, then it's an expensive thing, I think, because then they got to build either on top of infrastructure there or they got to go behind into different areas. And I don't know which buildings are necessary. And then the trains stuff is right there.

There's like a road, there's like a service road, and then the train stuff is right there. And you're in harbor pretty fast, too. Right. It's tough to have a gambit. Listeners, we had to think tricky. It's tricky. It's tricky. Oh, the maps, all of us, it wasn't, yeah, you know what, it was a struggle for all of us. Jason's the only one who got fired, but otherwise. Right. I mean, I'll still put him on my resume. You should, yeah, you should.

It's a bad time to look for work in Southern California, entertainment industry, but. It says you're you personally redesigned and painted all of New Tomorrowland, it doesn't matter. Yep, I'm willing to start from the bottom and I'm hard. My, you know, my greatest weakness is actually that I'm too hard of a worker. That's smart. That's a good tip. I care too much. It's a good thing to say on your interview. It's a tip, good tip. All right. Well, that's good because we got a lot of sod to sow.

Well, you are hired as a sod'sman. Oh, okay. Well, Lisa has benefits in the landscaper's union, right? Of course, yeah. We've under mind the union a little bit. No, no. Well, we will see, we will see tomorrow. If tomorrow, if there is anything close to what we have discussed for tomorrow. Yes. And real quick, I'd like to say why not do this concept with other lands? Oh, you're right. You're right as well. I enjoyed it. I hope listeners did too. I absolutely well.

That's, hey, listeners, what do you want us to? I, you know what? Yeah, because any even the best land could use it. You know, I'll demolish almost any land. Yeah. I'll do it. It's interesting. Like, make it better. I'll try to make it better. That's the whole goal, I think. If you get the, if you draw, I think we'll keep this structure. And if you draw the special blue sky, where you could demolish everything. It's a try to make it better. Yeah. You can make it better. I'm just here to help.

Well, and you know what, building our dream Disneyland for. It's also probably, I think we should do that too. Yeah. That's what we should. All right. Well, hey, new ideas opened up. I hope you enjoyed this mental exercise. I hope that you're sad that none of what we said will happen. I hope that there's, I hope that there is like the avatar unbording. I don't get to actually live on Pandora. And I hope that all of you are upset that some of these cool things will never happen. I know I am.

I have to say goodbye now to Plectu and a show with all my friends. Yeah. And Wally is ET. So anyway, I hope you're sad, but otherwise you survive. Focasteride for three bonus episodes every month. Check out podcast. The Red the second gate, where we recently bet on D23. See if any of it came true or get one more bonus episode on our VIP tier club three. You'll find all of that at patreon.com slash podcast the ride. Boy, oh boy. Imagine like truly if they say nothing now. Wow. Imagine.

I hope not. Imagine. Everyone wish so hard. Imagine if you will. He said nothing. You know, the story is no story because what is better story than a blank piece of paper? Forever. Forever. Forever. This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gardner, Brett Bomm, Joe Silio, and Alex Ramsey.

For more original podcasts, please visit Forever Dog Podcasts.com and subscribe for our shows on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keep up with the latest Forever Dog news by following us on Twitter and Instagram at Forever Dog Team and liking our page on Facebook.