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Disneyland State Fair with Justin Donaldson

Nov 01, 20242 hr 4 min
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The 1980s were wild. Cabbage Patch Dolls. Reagan. Real pig races live at Disneyland.  Justin Donaldson (AEW's Johnny Loves Taya, Tournament of Nerds) joins the hootenanny to celebrate another Eisner-era triumph, a limited-time event that featured lumberjack comedy and rad BMX stunts.  It sounds weird because it was! "Blast To The Past" episode is up at: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide  FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Forever Dog! Welcome to Podcast The Ride, a theme park podcast that will not end until we've done a cross-country tour of every state fair where we rank the cute faces on all the blue ribbing winning pigs. My name is Mike Carlson, joining me as always Scott Garener who looks very confused and maybe upset. I didn't know if you were when you said cute faces I was like that are drawn on a pumpkin or on a dessert or something but then the face is on a pig.

On a real life living pig. Not the, not the, because the, I guess the normal way to say that would be the pigs faces but faces on a pig I think threw me for a loop. Well they're technically on the body of me. They all are known. There's nothing incorrect about what you said. There's just something strange. There might be a couple of extra words in between two thoughts or ideas that maybe threw you off. Jason, did you understand? Jason shared and do you understand?

I understand. It was ranking the pig's cute faces. Yeah. Jason got it. I got it. I did not get it. There was just something baffling to me about and do we really, like the real pigs, do we think their faces are cute? Do you don't think pigs are cute? I don't, at a, at a state fair, a bunch of real big pigs running around. I don't know if they are cute. They're faces? Well, I mean, I actually didn't even think about another like cute debate happening on the show,

which has happened many times. Yeah. This is an organic cute debate. What I do think pigs are cute. Jason, what do you think? Jason shared it. I think they can be. I think it's state fairs they're often tired and sleeping and lying on their side. What I'm thinking is very, wow, I was going to say it's very relatable. Look, I'm a side sleeper, you know. I'm a side sleeper, too. I'm just saying. I think that would look, that'll be part of it though. It's like, will there

be like an unnaturally cute pig that we'll find across America? I'm sure there are pigs that are cute. I just think you're running the mill fair pigs. It's cute, isn't the. So maybe what you're is you're rolling a piglet. So maybe you're thinking we want more like a like some sort of a fancy show pig versus a fair pig. You're like looking for a city pig versus a country pig. I would I would think yes, that if the pig is in some kind of a show, then the cute likelihood is higher.

That's interesting. Are there pig shows or did Jason you know? Well, I think state fairs, you that would be the cream of the crop. That would be the show pig. You don't think there's like a fancy pig show somewhere that takes place in sort of a convention center like a dog show. I'd have to look into it. I don't want to talk out of my ass. Yeah, you're right. We don't want to spend this information. I think that they keep these things outside or in sort of a,

you know, open but covered air. I don't think you're I don't think we're bringing a bunch of pigs into the the Hilton into the marina room. Well, maybe we should bring pigs into a Hilton. The fancy pigs. Pigs that have more high class pigs that are like 9s and 10s. You're picturing swine. I'm talking about right remarkable classy pigs. 9 or 10s on the scale, the Bob Guccione, whatever scale of attractiveness. I'm assuming that's the right thing. I think

let me say this. I don't I have nothing against pigs. I think pigs are neat, but I think pure face cute. This is just what I I question. I don't know. Maybe I have too much cartoon pig on the brain. Maybe that's really what it is. Because I'm looking at I saw art of what we're talking about today in which Mickey has a cartoon pig nuzzling against him. Yeah, absolutely. It's cute. I've

don't you know, I have pig depictions certainly. Well, when this comes out, I will try to find pictures of legitimately cute pigs post them along with the episode and then the audience can decide as the average fair pig cute. And maybe I'm wrong. I'm happy to be I'm happy to be wrong in this instance. But I guess maybe maybe I'm just I'm getting my brain is clouded with like the car. I mean, look, as I go I'm seeing cute pigs. There's I know there's cute pigs.

There are. There are. I'm not in credit. I didn't do it. We're going to go cross country and figure it out. Wow. Lots of things. Our guest in he's a director. He's a writer and he's a member of most importantly of my serious toy collector text text chain chat. Ah, this is Justin Donaldson. He's here. Hello everybody. And if he wouldn't mind, I would prefer to do a toy swap live on the air. Yeah, because we are going to do one of these right now. This is something that toy collectors do.

They look out for each other. They find toys and then they do a trade and we're going to do this live on. Wow. Very exciting. Okay. So this you just be doing this somehow. We would do we would meet up in the middle usually wherever we are. We'll meet in the middle. And I'm going to trade him a neck up belly bomb. This is the one you said was that you wanted to kiss. I'll send it around if you guys want to take a look at it. We talked about kissing. We talked about kissing this belly bomb

on a recent episode. There's too many sharp teeth to kiss this guy. Well, you kiss him on his teeth. You know, close the mouth because the mouth closes and you can kind of kiss him on his teeth, which is a line in a right at him song I'm realizing, but not enough to mention that. But the teeth, but so you're talking about the surface of the teeth because I don't want to get near those points. Well, some yes, close the mouth and then kiss on the sort of enamel of the teeth.

I guess that's not far from what I was because I chose in talking about kissable toys. I chose a street shark and they have sharp teeth as well. Right. I guess it's all right. So you close all right. Close mouth. No more no more objections. And it's yeah, it's a very phallic toy and it's honestly one of the best toys I've ever owned. I say this with no hyperbole. It's so incredible. It's a character I've never had before and it's so well done. It's really well done. Mike,

I don't know. I mean, in terms of phallic, what penises have you seen that get really fat at the end of the shaft? Well, on a recent episode, I also said there are penises that are the shapes and sizes of things we can't even imagine. That's right. People have stuff going on down there that we don't know. And I'm just saying I bet someone's looks kind of like that.

I suppose hopefully not with his eyeball. Right. Hopefully where the like the head is. It's not just where I start to feel like you, Mr. Prude, are seeing penises everywhere and in everything. I've seen many YouTube toy guys mention the phallic nature of this toy also. He's a pink color. That's a long I've got a long color in the shading and kind of like where he bunches up. Yes, he bunches up. That's the most important part of it. The toy is that he bunches up in the

right part. And I think that's where it does it. Now that's not why I swear to God that's not why this is one of my favorite toys of all time. But anyway, this is I'm creating this to Justin. Now Justin has a very exciting toy for me. He can let's see. He can say it. This is a toilet taxi. Yeah. So this is a re-release of a classic 80s vehicle. But with a new figure, the original didn't come with a figure. So this is a fantastic recreation. You would have had to

get this without you bring your own turtles to the toilet. Right. Now you can get a Donatella with a helmet and goggles. But I do have this somewhere but it's kind of broken and they just re-issued it. And I'm very excited because yeah, this is and we've talked about this vehicle on this show before many years ago. I think this point is that the turtle is sitting on an open toilet while he drives his vehicle around. So you have to presume that shitting or pissing in it

powers the vehicle. Why do you have to assume that? Why do you have to assume that? I think a lot of the vehicles were powered by his sewage. Yeah, there was a lot there was a sewage theme. They deal and sew it. Right. It definitely seems like a function of our form sort of thing. Yes. What science allows poop and pee? Well, in fact, in the future he dumps a bunch of garbage into the time machine. So obviously he could have probably put some confusion-esque technology.

Yeah, Donatella is the smartest Doc Brown. He can figure that out. So this is a live toy swap. You're seeing it now. How it happens. So it's very exciting. I hope for the most time. The big oil is suppressing. Hold on a second. Donatella is the smartest Doc Brown. I think he is. We're all in fact. We almost everything you've said we've found problems in. You've only said like four things. Donatella created a whole like interdimensional travel portal

that was in the sewer. You would bring people through. That's pretty good. So I'm just saying that's how I'm part with what Doc Brown did. But now and now the toilet taxi is different than the ghost busters haunted toilet toilet toilet. Oh, absolutely. What you sent to me and I it was one of the fastest purchases I ever made. Well, please use the real name of the character Jason. Fear some flush. Fear some flush. Excuse me. Of course. But yeah, I guess he eats human waste.

Yeah, his tongue is coming out of the bowl. Right. It is eyes around the tank. Yeah. So there's many different vintage toilet based things you can buy now. Oh, you get a mall. It's a big thing in the late 80s. I feel like. Right. And yeah, I'm glad to see it's coming back. Slime toilet poop. It was all all the same stuff. Right. We were embracing gross out for the first time. Maybe. Yeah, it's a culture. We were experimenting with it. Well, that was

thrilling. Boxes, two men pulled boxes out and now you have different boxes. Exchanged boxes. You both remembered to transport them. One man gave the other man a toilet and one man gave the only one a penis. That was beautiful. It was a beautiful thing. But look, we got it. We got a lot to talk about today. Yes. We're going to talk Disneyland state fair, which was another one of these limited time events. I keep wanting to say limited time magic. Yeah, that's the current.

Yeah, yeah, why not? But that's limited time. This is limited time and we'll get into it. But it was on the second gate by now. You've heard us talk about blast to the past, which is a 50s throwback event. And we're talking about, we need to talk about the state fair thing they did in Justin as fond memories of the state fair thing. But don't let that distract from where you're going. Oh, sure. I just want to bring up real cool. I mean, there's a lot of stuff. Justin is a big

Disneyland guy, theme park guy, orange county guy. And you went a ton as a kid. Yeah, I was born up here in Van Eyes and we lived in Glendale until the summer between the second and third grade. However, I don't know what age you are at that point. That's a tool. So when I was really little, I was all about universal. And also because like I wanted to be a filmmaker and, you know, back then making movies was exciting. Sure. And we would go to Universal and see how it was done.

So I would go to Universal almost weekly. And then we moved to Orange County. And before we moved to Orange County, Disneyland was like a two or three times a year thing. But then once we moved to Orange County, it became like, and all the time thing, while like Universal, when we lived up here. Sure. Right. And every time there was one of these limited time things we had to go. They would sell discount tickets for them at Ralph's, which is

the California Croger. There was always some sort of deal going on at the same time as these events. Sure. Sure. And I don't know if I saw them on television. I somehow like myself and the family like everyone knew that these events were happening. They were pretty heavily dadvertised seemingly. And with like big budget commercials, it was not like, yeah, come on down this weekend. There's a thing like, you know, they were like shot filmically. And you know, maybe presented, I mean,

was not the the blessed to the past. Wasn't there a McDonald's ad? We talked about with little richer that was a national ad. So yeah, they got the going down like the discount tickets there. So each one of these had like a tie-in. Right. Right. And like, so that was like a thing with my parents being like, oh, the tickets were on sale. So we ended up going to all of these in 87 and 88, which was kind of a new breed of this is sort of an Eisner era invention. I think we sort of

touched on this on the second gate with blessed to the past. But I think there was a time if you can imagine it in the in kind of right when Eisner got there right before where it was just accepted like, well, Disney's busy during the summer and the holidays. And then we quiet down a little bit. We even closed the park some days and Eisner gets in. He's like, what are you doing? You should be making money in every possible way from every avenue. Don't ever close the park down. And like,

okay, what's going on here? You got nothing between summer and winter. Come up with some stuff. Make some things happen. And that's where this this particular event and the others came from. And it totally worked. I know, at least for us, because we went for our regular Disney trips. And then we would also go for these special events. And we were there specifically for the events. Right. Right. There is a state fair rouse commercial on YouTube. And I believe what it was,

if you spent $50 at rouse, we get a free child ticket with purchase of an adult ticket. And I believe they said like a $16 value. And it's like, oh my god. I know it was nearly 40 years ago at this point. But the children's tickets must be 10 times that price at this point. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Easily. But that's yeah. And for state fair specifically, like you said, you did bless to the past and other events. But I would say like state fair was your

favorite. Absolutely. Like my favorite and like my whole family's favorite. Like I remember everyone being very excited the next year that the state fair was coming back. Yeah. This one they did twice. Yeah. 8788. Yeah. Yeah. The circus, I barely remember. Like the the only thing I remember from it was the motorcycles in the middle of the hub. There was like a metal ball that had motorcycles crossing each other in the hub. So they depicted in the Simpsons movie.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So all these exolent names of death. And that's like all I remember from that. And then blast to the past. The main thing I remember from that was the giveaways. There were all these like 1950s toys. And with every ticket, you could exchange for one of those. Okay. So I remember that and the parade. And I think they also had the shooting the guy out of the cannon, which the state fair also had. I believe so. The TV ads for both feature human cannonballs.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. So you know, like the all right. So at a state fair, they would have that. And in the 50s, they would have that in the 50s human cannonballs were all the rage. It was the main way people transported. Yeah. Freeways weren't everywhere yet. So yeah, just getting a cannon. But the state fair felt like so much bigger. It's crazy how much stuff. Like last time I was trying to finish up like looking all the stuff up and I kept finding stuff

and watching stuff. And I was like, this is wild how much they had very quiet every corner. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tons of big produced events. But if you search Disney state fair, you also get and this is a different episode. Yes. That's a whole. Let's like the inflatable is going around to various actual state fairs in the the 96. But that's something else. That's something else. I'll say the names of all the things just to

wet the appetite of the audience. That is to be we think that's an episode. Oh yeah. We can't cover that in two minutes. If we could find a video of it. Yeah. It's an effort. I think the end documentation is the I found I found video about it that had footage. Yeah. Sure we want that. But I want to see the whole show. There was Disney fun fair extraordinaire, which Disney had a plan to run these weird balloon shows at all the state fairs

across America. The Great inflation celebration. Mickey's inflation celebration. Which was a very expensive, very like labor intensive show to set up and perform. Which they only I think we all watched this video. Midway to Main Street. Yeah. But yeah, they tried it at the Washington state fair in the Arizona state fair. And after one, we're like this doesn't work at all. Yeah. We have to hire so many people. How are you going to? Okay, to set up tons of inflatable shit to do.

Well, all right. So we got a lot. Let's get as many hands as we can to transport all this stuff. You all you're in later people find out these are non-union workers. I see protests. Yeah. Oh shit. All right. Okay. So we're going to be regulated on this. You know, how about not? How about we don't do this? That's the how about we deflate the Great inflation celebration. I love that there's just you keep on covering like Eisner, Eisner era failures. So so many.

I think we still have never talked about was it called club Disney or club Mickey or what? I was just in in West Lake Village. There's a shopping center. Yeah. That now is it's a pottery barn. But it I whenever I'm there, I remember that's where there was this weird Disney club thing, which is different than Disney Quest. There's a Chuck E. Cheese thing. I think it was sort of Chuck E. Cheese is. I don't know much about it. I don't know much about it. Did you ever do that,

Justin? No, I like I didn't even know about it. I most people I don't think knew about any of this stuff. Like, but it was like constant. I was a really aggro. Like we talk about. And I was like on top of it back then. Like I knew the like themes entertainment news when I was a kid and I had no idea that place. Justin, you lived in Southern California like all your life. Did you ever go to it's a thing I encountered recently and it's a chain. It's called boomers.

Oh yeah, well boomers. It's a chain of family entertainment centers and it's still hanging in there despite having multiple different like locations are owned by different companies. Yeah. So boomers like came in and bought up a bunch of like miniature golf courses and stuff like that and like the one of my favorite places to go when I was a kid was bullwinkles. And boomers. Oh yeah. Of course. Yeah. Boomers bought the bullwinkles and fountain valley.

So like I went to boomers but they weren't boomers yet when I went there. It's pretty. And I remember after high school they started opening up more miniature golf course and like bowling places. So I remember going to boomers like just out of high school. But it wasn't really a thing when I was a kid yet. There were a bunch of like independent miniature golf courses and then boomers bought them up and like added other things.

What are the odds that you get into the weeds that you talk to the owners of these places and discover that boomers was a cutthroat terrible pirate organization that like we had to sell. We had no choice. The boomers wave ruined the right. It has to be that. Probably the worst is before boomers came in like that bullwinkles and fountain valley was just amazing because you had the full bullwinkles with the animatronic and the whole thing.

Plus you had bumper boats which were crazy. Yeah. That was the very stupid fun. Complex. Wow. You need a lot of land to have bumper boats. Is there a place within 30 miles that you can get in a bumper boat right from here? Yeah. Definitely. Where are they? I mean Ventura. I don't know if it's within 30 miles but golf and stuff in Ventura is what I flashed to which

is right off the freeway off the 101 so you can see that very easily. And it's on my mind because the Beach Boys filmed a very embarrassing music video there for a cover of Crocodile Rock. And they're all in the bumper boats and shaking their hands. They're like doing jazz hands wearing like leisure suits and fedoras. It's one of the worst things you'll ever see. What year are we talking? 95, 96. Stamos in it for sure. Stamos is like a Latin lover. Like slick back hair. You're like

dipping girls. But I think maybe one in the like Valencia ish area to might have I forget the name of that. But I think that same golf and stuff is from Cruddy Kid too. Oh really? Oh I didn't know that. Oh wow. Wow. Interesting. Okay. So oh and then they moved all the balloons from this they for to some show in Singapore or some Disney fest in Singapore. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So I do I would love if we can get a video of what that balloon show was a highly produced balloon show.

Jason's ready to go without the Jason's putting the foot his foot down. We're doing it. We don't need the footage. It's all because we said everything just now. It's a great balloon. It's our guys. He wants to list the balloons. It's our guys. It's our guys. What does that tell us what our guys are? Just that we like the balloon. We always speak. Our boys speak fondly of the balloons. He's right. We love the balloon. What do you mean by the balloons? I don't know. Are you talking

about the balloon? Like the party. Yeah. That's not part of this. Is it? This is a different thing. The video alluded to some of those balloons were in the show. Okay. Yeah. Okay. But I don't know which balloon specifically if it's the mini with the big like fruit hat on or something. I don't know. It's just found it so strange that you're yelling. It's our guys at me and I'm like what are? Who are? They're my guys. They're my guys. I should know what they are. If somebody has the video,

please send it to email us and send it to us. Did you go to the Great Inflation celebration? Yeah. Yeah. Did you would you would you did you bounce in luxury? Be very careful searching that now or you're going to find Mickey going like oh boy. Oh I'm getting bigger. I'm about to pop. What? You are inflation stuff. Inflation stuff. It's like a rule. Is that a sex thing? Like a rule 35. I feel like inflation stuff is inflation stuff. If you feel that then you know

that's true. You're going to have to just admit it. What are you going to do inflation stuff? I am not in it. No. I just know. I'm just an anthropologist. You know, I'm just studying that. People. You're in it. But you think an example of it would be Mickey saying oh look at there. I'm getting so gorgeous. I'm going to. We haven't even gotten this as a fair scale.

I know what is inflation stuff like what is it like like being inflated like being pumped in a corner or a cartoon or a cartoon or a bullet is being inflated and somebody gets horny because of that. I like characters get inflated. You don't even talk about it. No. All right. He made me just. He just does. He made me be invented. Maybe that's an invented. I assure you I am not. I think maybe you did. I am not the expert here. I am just a creator.

You're a young creative who's come up with a new kind of portal. No, he's not because I've just found a Reddit where people are accusing the series tiny-toon adventures of being a way for the writers to make real their inflation fetishes and they're proving this by that you know like Babs Bunny would get big some like pilot full regard or something. Tiny-toon adventures was practically the writers barely disguised free weight gain and inflation fetishes. Oh my gosh.

Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. This can't be lurking on the dark. You're not allowed to think of a part or a cartoon character blows up real big and then that's that that was fun. That's just fun. That's not just you trying to write your fetish and that's good old-fashioned fun. I like it. Put turn to the century state fair. Donald puts his mouth on like if you think you're segwaying back with that you're incorrect Jason. We're saying on this point good try what it might continue. Do you say like Donald

puts his mouth on like a helium tank and he blows up and he floats. That's not a pervert. This Reddit person is saying yes the only way you'd ever want to see a cartoon character blow up is to get off on it. What? This is awful. I know Jason for bringing inflation stuff to our desk today. I assume you then take the inflated cartoon character and like put it on your dick. That's what it is. I don't know I don't know that that's a part of it. Oh Jason says it's not and he's an expert on this.

They call the inflation stuff. You just look at the thing and play. He knows he's not mine. He knows he clearly knows. It's not my thing. Yeah right. I think it's making them real big and occasionally popping. Oh it's the popping. That's what we're guessing. That might be an elephant part of it. This is like how every snowflake is different you know no two snowflakes are the same. What it is? No. He has people no one has the same exact fetish.

Oh I think it's a different way. It's a different way. People like a different element of playing a ball. Some people might not care about the popping. Right some might just like the popping is not part of it for me. It's too aggressive. They're my guy. I want to see him pop. So maybe this is why they had to shut to this state fair thing. The Mickey inflation celebration down because people were getting too horny. The track watching the show. So this thing as if I go

in there it has inflation stuff. Was that my guise? No that was a leering. That's just a pervert. I'm an inflation man trying to fight tickets. I guess my theory is that Isar wanted to do it because he's an inflation guy. I don't know. All right my for this fiscal year my proposition inflation stuff. I like to see Pluto get really big. Not because I want to see him pop but he's want to see him get big. I get very clear not into them popping just like to see him bigger than normal.

Wow inflation stuff. All right now segue as a fact. Now just yeah do it now we're ready. They were inflating a lot of bluens at the state fair promotion right? He's a word maybe. Is that fair to make Justin deal with this? Yeah no it's all right he's not Jason. Yeah he's not Jason long time. Yeah he's he's familiar with all his his different interests. What word does that? Here this is a good reset. Let's watch a commercial for this next fair.

Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Here we go it's not the Ralph's one but it's a god it's a whole big musical number and there's a part as often with videos where I'm just going to have to explain it and not uh the listener won't understand it at first but there's one shot that uh it stands out to me. Oh hold a state fair that Disney Land. State fairs common. I know there's something special there for me. Disney that brings 50 great state fairs all into one.

It's a whole powerful. The fun and games with all the ingredients are non-stop surprises with daily pig races and the downhole state fair parade all this and Disney Land to every day. Will the state bear a Disney Land? Is it something special something special something special? What do these special common things mean?

Yeah that's that's that uh it kind of gives you an overview of the sort of stuff they had in the in the vibe and the Americana of it all but what's jumped out it means that the musical number is being led by I mean is it Bert? I guess it's got the suit on it. Yeah it's it's the like jolly holiday type mode of Mary Poppins Bert with the the red and white stripes in the hat and then that if we're saying that's Bert then there's a weird part where he is holding a bowl of chili

with a ribbon on it and he's making of and steam only just now have I realized there maybe they're conveying that steam is coming out of it yeah yeah and uh and he's making a face like yeah yikes hot hot chili Bert can I live in England I don't know from spice right I don't know you

well how do you do this food is bland yeah oh well you put this kind of thing down you shovel this kind of thing down your mouth do you he also is dressed like professor Harold Hill from Music Man that's what I think they were going for yeah that song is the well as Fargo wagon

like a state fair barber from the music man uh a number that I don't think Harold Hill is in which upsets you because it's not accurate no that's the the big song that's Ron child Ron Howard's big song okay I'm just saying do you like the mixing of music man like iconography

and so I do like it I feel like a lot of the state fair music is just uh in the parade especially it's just production numbers of the music played on Main Street nowadays like the instrumental music yeah there's there's different types of state fair things going on it's not all sort of in

the same like hello dolly music man era unfortunately for Jason it is not all set in 1906 yes yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I feel like the parade very much yes that's the parade that's a big part of it right right yeah but the and maybe this has something to do with

the chili being in the commercial uh but the state fair was the first time that I ever remember food being a big deal at Disneyland seasonal yeah offerings just for the special event something it's very commonplace now and they really push we do like really polished photos you got to come

here for these months because we're gonna get this thing you're right this might be the first time that was ever done because I like getting that chili was a thing you remember oh very much so oh really maybe we felt like we had to because of the commercial uh but I remember it being a

big deal it was made out of buffalo meat which was like this mind blowing thing at the time ah I remember my family discussing if it was actual buffalo uh so yeah like I feel like it's in the commercial for a reason like it was definitely and the pies I remember the pies being a

big thing yeah I think single slice pies like uh yeah suddenly were available I don't know if it was just one place or all over the park well they had booths set up so like the areas that wouldn't be like really themed like tomorrow land there you have that's a tough thing to marry yeah

there'd be like a booth with pies and maybe some carnival games and stuff well and once again Jason we're gonna we're this is a time where you could just grab slices of pie and delete no matter where you are even tomorrow land well you got to wash down your chili with some

pen um it's funny because a lot of this stuff does look very fun but also it's like a lot of is this chinsy corny shit that wall tated I wouldn't say a lot I can't believe Jason's mad at this no this is gonna be a moment the only thing I remember the other side where it's shit it's fucking shit fucking they did have two Ferris wheels uh yeah but like the way that they were presented in the places that they were like it felt like not obtrusive right there were right they were on

the railroad tracks one of the year that's part of this why he's upset it's because they were blocking the rail track with shutdown because of splash mount construction oh that's one of the train there was a one of the splash mower the last you would use interesting so you would use

the train station as a line for a Ferris wheel yeah the front that's the one in the front of the park and then that gives you a so you're looking at the parking lot on that thing that's on the other side interesting and then there was one right in front of the castle uh one year and then the

other year it was over by uh the the rivers okay two Ferris wheels I saw people online saying that they felt like this was another in addition to his inflation interests that Eisner was determined the heller highway or yeah Ferris wheel into the park somehow and the two

of them he got this so when ultimately California adventure happens and you have your big permanent Ferris wheel right several names that it's had that people theorize that Eisner really was dying for Ferris wheel I think the Ferris wheels were at most of these events I think they were

also with the circus oh really huh I think they were oh yeah the circus I don't think they were a blast to the past but I can't remember I can't remember looking at seeing him in any of these big record on it it was did you we were there when a blast to the past with John Bowser

Bauman from Sean and I no I think I would have remembered that because I was a huge Sean on offense and oh man we should have had you on the first we were baffled by we didn't understand this guy his appeal we watched a special about where he's telling us about the

blessed to the past event and it's full of all these weird monologue jokes remember the lunch ladies they look like they stink I couldn't tell you why but like I remember as a kid watching Sean on a and like really being drawn to Bowser just he's charisma I suppose I don't know

yeah they picked up some of the happy days shine too I feel like and recently I've been watching him just do it before out of the character as the host of Hollywood squares and match game they've been airing that era on Pluto oh right yeah they have a full Hollywood squares channel when was he

regular he wasn't Bowser on it no he was he was the host of Hollywood squares and he was out of the Bowser character whoa does he have like a crazy different like an Englishman or something I don't know if he has a crazy different voice not quite but it's definitely like weird like I

didn't recognize him you'll put on the voice oh yeah full like yeah yeah Bowser was a gimmick like I knew it was a gimmick I just didn't know how much of a gimmick like I knew they were like a comedy act also in addition to 50s revival and also they ended up playing Woodstock because Hendrix

was like a big fan that's why yeah why part of him doing Woodstock was you had to book Shana na in the Demetri Barton movie about Woodstock yeah taking Woodstock taking Woodstock well look it up as you've Shana I'm gonna have to ask my mom because I feel like maybe we did that

and I forgot cuz going to Disneyland to see Bowser definitely feels like something I would have done right I just don't know how often he was there because he was yeah using the promotional material for that we've done a show right right kind to like the virus does not all the time

oh and Halloween season I feel like yeah I was only a viral level celebrity you know you can get him down for a few I got nothing going on even as a kid though that whole thing felt like it was trying to capitalize on back to the future which I didn't appreciate yeah suddenly like

that yeah like there's a new angle there's a cool current thing with a lot of 50s stuff in it yeah that's an underrated part of a while that 50s yeah that I didn't think about that hey everybody it's Tim Heidecker here to tell you about a tremendous week in office hours history

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I'm a mag against them won't you join us on the podcast app of your choice okay this ad for state fair we're talking about pies this ad this ad is so good and kind of creepy and is so not spary farm yeah well very it's very Norman Rockwell I mean what here let's

describe some aspects of this I have this too it's uh it's a drawing but a drawing of Mickey mini and goofy as they're like suited in park characters yes and Mickey's in a Mickey look sharp plaid bandana I love overalls yes uh mini looks lovely and beautiful yes well what a bonnet

and uh what kind of pattern would you say is on her I don't know what's almost like a like a like a picnic like a cloth that you put down for like having a picnic that's right yeah is that what that's called and then like a white something uh but she's wearing like kind of a

little dress yeah and a little hat and then goofy is wearing a drum major outfit or a marching band outfit you sick man again yeah he's got a conductors wand uh and he's got his arms in the air and Mickey and many are holding a pie like toward the toward the viewer of this ad and it's yeah this

just this feels like if you were at not spary farm you'd be pissed that they were like infringing on your territory yeah yeah it's that hominess yeah how much the whole thing feels like it and just that the pie is like the thing they're presenting to the that's true yeah the Disney lands all about

pies for this straight time right I would be furious if I were like what the hell is this shit well all we have is pies at not spary farm they have all the good stuff in the characters and here they come trying to take our market share yeah they already stole the idea of doing a

team nightclub right and they plusted up by being less tolerant right yes like this is this I to me this feels like ruthless Eisner like kind of a ruthless Eisner that like is another thing I remember about this time period is we always had to get out of there before night time

because of the teams coming oh very opalous wave interesting oh wow wow do you remember being interested in go like oh if I was only a little older I could go to no not at all and like I remember my mom making it out to be like a very scary thing oh yeah teenagers were scary right

so no we had to get out there yeah there's drugs there's alcohol there's inflation stuff you don't want to go near this no one to go nearing although now you just give them an iPad and they were all iPad kids seeing kind of trick them yeah well you just have a couple iPads on you yeah

so proud to be over here yeah can I say one more thing about this poster which is yeah I'm stealing this from a reddit comment but somebody posted this nostalgic for this event and then in the comments somebody said boy mini looks like she's seen some shit and you got to look closely to see but

like Mickey is definitely he's looking at us like can't wait to see and she just looks like she's like trying to hold it together yeah she's staring at what over the middle distance or whatever like where why is she yes staring here she watched earlier that day she saw somebody get

crushed in the gears of the Ferris wheel and then like I don't know if I can do the photo shoot and like you hold it together okay the photographer is coming you have to do this is our park you pour on a plate face she saw Michael Eisner kill a buffalo and put it into the chili

he likes like Gus Spring style and Breaking Bad slice the throw this way the buffalo habitat is just a few more steps it's just right through this tube many you didn't see any many you saw nothing shut your mouth keep your mouth shut she got splattered by the buffalo right

right on her it's over here I like the entrails off of here it's newt don't talk about it you scared aren't you freaked out by this schoolful go I'm here to do a job so yeah this this lists the things that you could do there and I don't know do you have any

recollection of just this image no yeah yeah that doesn't jump out of me but I look I would I would like a poster of this this is how much I like this image it's really good I also like that I something I get nostalgic for when I don't do it as much anymore but there was a while where I was

buying a lot of like like 80s magazines I mean I own a lot of the Disney magazines from them but there was like LA magazine an orange coast did you have orange coast magazine like the events that are happening this weekend listings of every bar and restaurant and yeah I used to buy a lot

of I don't know maybe B Arthur's on the cover you get to see her her vacation condo in Corona Del Mar but I I would buy these magazines and it was something I always liked is like the the sheer volume of copy that like now at now ads have no words and they used to be like pull up a chair

you got five paragraphs for you but I find it very relaxed it really takes me back to 88 and you're looking at the dense copy right there's like four paragraph five paragraph yeah yeah yeah yeah the state you want to be in it says and it's the so the idea they set it in that commercial but it

was like we're combining the best of all the state fairs in the country 50 state fairs rolled into one yeah and the different like things would also say like which state they were from and remember there was either like a sticker or something state yeah yeah yeah so they would

sell you know if they would sell these these are stickers that have like characters on them and then list like Minnesota and Donald has an axe I assume to chop down a tree and I saw that every people would get them when your car parked in a lot yeah oh okay there's a different one like

each day to get people to come back to collect the stuff yeah and then some kids would like stand on Main Street like trading though yeah they were trading like the early Pinterest yeah that's cool yeah I feel like there was something like that for each one of the events yeah there was some

sort of like collectible element to it oh and it's too bad that some of these have Mickey doing things culturally that he should not be doing wearing clothes that also with there's one with the Texas one I what carrot is it Mickey with a bandana over his face holding two pistols I think he's

being like a 70 Sam they're stealing knots now he's stealing you 70 Sam stick yeah I just Google Disneyland State Fair stickers and summer nights at like South Dakota it's a Mount Rushmore with our characters on it and then Wisconsin the minis got buttered earns what are

but yeah yeah it sure and must be in my head but I'm like it can't be an earn is it jars what do you put butter in oh when it's done the whole butter but both Texas and Wyoming Mickey is holding two different types of guns really and then New York he's oh Jason with like the New York one

where he's like a like an old-time chappy he's lays in a pinstripe suit and puller yeah yeah is a little surprising for California he's the zodiac killer he's gonna hang over his head hey John it's the John Wayne Geese clown what the fuck the different event I think you're looking at

oh yeah cereal nine mid 90s Illinois he's Al Capone she's throwing his enemies in a river poor ship and Dale oh for New Jersey is the devil impregnating a woman to create his person's spoon why is he that Jersey devil yeah yeah look I'm looking at some nice ones goofy's goofy's bundled up

because he's in Alaska hmm oh that's nice mm-hmm ship sold in the Georgia peach Idaho Donald's relaxing next to a giant potato and he has a big old gut like you ate a lot of potato is he's pregnant yeah yeah interesting drawer has he been inflated oh no

that's a little bit more to I believe the term is impreg stop with like pregnant sonic I believe I believe I'll fool them if I say I'm not sure I want to see like I miss you I want to seem like I'm disrespectful or disrespectful but I've definitely seen like pregnant

track pregnant sonic like and that's a sex thing oh yeah okay and is it just you look at it or is there other stuff I don't know I don't even have to yeah you can't I don't know the mechanics true I don't believe you but I'll roll we'll go through because we already did too much on this

I this is like they still Duke like little stuff sometimes but it's like your annual pastholders go to and they get like a maybe a magnet once in a while but this is but none of the magnets are Mickey shooting two guns in the air the magnets are that yeah yeah did you do

remember having any these yeah I think I still have one with goofy on it I'm not sure which is a Montana goofy it's so lazy it's just his big face he's got a cowboy hat I think that's the one I said the one wow well but that's like no they couldn't think of an activity they couldn't

think of like an action right Montana we ran out of time well he's the governor inspired yellow stone you know inspired later season plots there's like a lot of I just there's a lot of stuff online on eBay there's like hats that they had like kind of cowboyish hats I did bring my state

fairer 87 button oh wow oh yeah that is oh it's nice there's a good logo good good bold yeah blue ribbons on here like this poster let's see if I can get in the veriswheel square in the middle of the low wow the acid the castle pushed to the side yeah I saw get out of your matter on

and you're a castle you wanted to replace it with a fairies wheel is given promen it is up there with the castle in the manner or it's like it is an equal partner yeah yeah he was pushing it yeah this poster I found that's like a really like well produced piece of art for this thing like they

they really it felt like you can feel the effort that was put into this event yeah like especially I feel like this events you know they did a lot of these this stuff for the other events but this one felt like it had a little bit more than the other stuff yes I would agree with that yeah

we haven't even listed yet all the stuff that was there like and it was yeah so we were talking about like the Main Street area was more like hello dolly music man but then over New Orleans Square there was a bunch of hillbilly nonsense and over at videopolis there were like 80s the

hillbilly stuff was more like big thunder big thunder ranch where yes that was there was there was more of the lumberjack yes you're right I apologize that rivers of America had like guys trying to balance on logs and stuff and then the fall into the river and then the climbing log

climbing yes that was part of it yeah it was like a I want to say like 20 minutes to half hour show that they would do a bunch of times so a day on the rivers of America that had like you know some it had the competition between the lumberjacks but it also had like built in bits and comedy

things okay it also had a band there was a different band from the pig races which we'll get to Captain Mike and the cavalry band and I believe they're all dressed like Confederate soldiers good I think that they're very here maybe they're union I don't know it's these the footage is

so good yeah but it's they've seemed like Confederates to me yeah you know I that was just like 50 states were rappers of course all 50 states but that yes you're they were all they were so two families I think it's the acons and the barkers maybe yes and they were competing for a bag of gold

so they would send a member of each family to compete in the the different events one was climbing the big pole one was like out in the rivers running on or what do you how do you call that what do you call that under the law yes log rolling log rolling and they would both be on a log and whoever

fell first lost and this is wild this this one in particular I think is like one of the wildest things to me that you could just see people in the middle of the rivers like falling into it off of a log oh yeah very weird in doing bits on the logs and like I remember I don't know why I remember

this like this must have been like one of my earliest exposures to improv comedy but I remember we had just had a big earthquake in Norwalk and I was watching the lumberjack show and the MC was doing crowd work like across the rivers of America like oh wow yeah and he was asking people

where they were from and someone yelled at out Norwalk and the guys on the logs did a bit where they acted all shaky because they're just been in earthquake and I still remember that to this day like being impressed with that level of crowd war plan that you might go that

you could go to Disneyland and here's something referred to that happened this month yeah time like yeah yeah that's not all like that was more common at Disneyland at the time because you and especially the state fair had so many shows like this because you had that plus the pig racing

plus there was like a diving show and then there was like a show on the train tracks in critter country or before it was bear country at the time with like robbers and cowboys like really I didn't find that there was stuff like yeah all over the Paul star dive show was yeah in front of

small world I guess huh which is wild the amount of stuff but yeah like life we've said this many times like a lot of the like live performer stuff is what you end up remembering as especially your kid but like I've said this like just the stormtroopers hassling people in tomorrow land

is like stuff I love and I feel like that stuff people like it's so much more fun when you like get tapped on the shoulder and the stormtroopers are behind you like that stuff like you remember more I was definitely more into the shows at Disneyland when I was a little kid than the rides like I was

a scared little kid so like I didn't love dark rides so like you you had this mix of like shows with live performers and then you also had like America sings and country bears and that was the stuff I was always more like drawn to yeah that's a different perspective I get and yeah I guess especially

then it was sort of a more more show environment it wasn't until star tours opened that I actually will like loved a ride oh wow huh yeah real quick I think Scott will be extra we're all going to be excited about this but I and maybe you found this already but there's a clip of Miss California

from 1988 with the California Secretary of State sort of doing a little speech at Disneyland during state fair I mean if you find it and somebody makes an appearance some a specific version of someone makes an appearance I believe during this so if it's not cute up here we go

that's the wrong one it's the wrong weird making voice that's what I'm talking about having Mickey it's our biggest character sound like this when you come meet him prime prime spot for rot you forget Roger Rabbit was like on the level is Mickey back there clearly rushed to miss

that must have been because the movie comes out in 88 so by the 88 version they're pushing Roger in yes in the parades and stuff they say I feel like I'm maybe right before that they mentioned like our brand new character are like I welcome our new guy to Disneyland Roger Rabbit like they make

a big deal a lot of Roger remember it being a big deal yeah like I don't feel like even though that was like the beginning of the like Renaissance of Disney animation like you wouldn't see new characters in the park that often yeah yeah I wouldn't be a quick thing like that and they

went all in pretty quickly too yes but now I think now I think they would it would take three and a half years to get up and they make they try to make that you know you got to come back to the park yeah I mean we would I don't know who would be now but that's that's how long it takes at this

point to just get a new suit I would love it if they did a poochie kind of character now of like our new character I think they were maybe like back to our piloting the wishing star from wish and then that didn't really take off there's the character that's a gag and runaway railway the

little chirpy bird at the end all right and they sell stuffed animals at that and then that's like I feel like a joke in that you know what you might miss is like oh it's a new character yeah but they're not pushing the chirpy bird like he's right no they're not pushing the chirpy bird and the

star that you wish on did that really get you know yeah shondu type like from sinbed where it's like a cute character and maybe this will maybe it could turn into like a parks a fun parks character yeah yeah there's speaking of like so the original characters there are I don't know

if I should go here first let's let's go back to the cannonball guy because the cannonball guy is a character with a name I don't know if you found this yes captain zoom is the name of the guy who would get shot out of a cannon on main street okay and was it the same name for each of the

events I don't know the answer but there was a whole intro on main street with captain zoom there would there would be like there's a so you can see here in this in this YouTube video there's a big banner that says captain zoom and then a guy would come down the street in the like

bird outfit so it would it's probably like the same whether it's the same actual performer but it's same character is from your commercial okay yeah and he would do a little spiel introducing captain zoom and I don't know that any of this is particularly good but I'll just Just show, enjoy everyone, Thanks. I'm the grace of the cosmos. So what's in God's hands now is what he said? The cosmos is feeling graceful today. And then I find this footage hilarious and scary like he

Really honest to God shoots himself out of a cannon down Main Street and this is happening. Did you see this life? Oh? Absolutely. It's insane. They built this Spider-Man animatronic, you know that does It's a less impressive thing in Avengers canvas, but they had a human doing this multiple times a day And this was like a level up from when he did it during the circus because for the circus I think it was over the rivers of America and all this is over cement on Mainstown

Could be kept in splat. So this footage is so crazy to me Love this is a kid Listeners are gonna hear a human cannonball. Oh Fuck Oh, yeah, why would you show us that oh, yeah, he's exploded like a big bag of blood. Yeah, I can't finish the episode I gotta go puke Tough it up

Like so mean very high. Yeah, it's crazy and lands in a net Yeah, but it was yeah like they're talking about now where like all these different like drone rules and stuff They can't fly the drones over the heads There should a guy's out of fucking cannons guys they can do yeah guys fine guys He's like rates away, but a little robot is too is too scary or too dangerous So yeah captain zoom would do this and yeah I don't know if it was always captain zoom or there was a different thing

I don't know if Disney owns captain zoom or this was this guy's gimmick. I guess we should look into I would assume Disney owns captain zoom so they just found a cannonball guy Well, yeah, I'm sure It was a lot easier to find a human cannonball than it is today There was like I see was a family tradition maybe people were doing it It was everybody was people's livelihood in the thirties and then like they trained their son and their son

Right, it was a trade maybe a daughter. You know what hey first female There was a lot of death death defying going on at these events Wow Like yeah, what else like was there anything like the high divers also very scary The log climbing I saw a video the log climbing with a coming down because you want to pick up speed You got to climb up and ring a bell So but then if you allow yourself to just kind of essentially free fall down that thing you can win a little easier

But that at what cost that looks so scary. Yeah, yeah So yeah, and the I guess the bike stuff was a little scary, but not as bad. Yeah, I will say that the I mean I guess we should talk about the record the there was a goofy suited character that would do like BMX tricks Oh, yeah, there was a BMX. I forgot about this because like

Just not interesting to me. There was a BMX was too trick show at Vityonpa Yeah, this may have come up a little bit when we talked about videopless many many years ago I don't I don't really remember yeah, but it was I don't maybe I didn't connect the dots that it was for the state fair

Because it doesn't have the vibe of the rest of the state fair exactly. It's notable for its name wizards of rad Wizards of rad And this was during a Point in time where I feel like most of the Southern California theme parks Had something like this. Yeah, not's had like bike guys. Yeah, not's had it and Sea world had one. Oh well Yeah, very odd like everyone had like a pre extreme sports like BMX skateboarding

Type of vent or show at some point. Yeah, it's like that's what kids were into so we gotta get them They've got to get the bikes there. Well, I also what I liked from the show is that the Trip what song are they playing? Oh, it's you can fly but I'm new lyric, but yeah a rock version of it performed by a live band That was always they had to be there singing the song live

I don't know if they're doing that these days. No, but yeah a rockified you can fly you know like bikes do they fly Briefly long yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, long and they show and they shred I'm just gonna play the one the little like lyric amending that I like I think it's cute up right Let's do the limit break out What a guy suddenly like this song I like a Peter Pan song He's also like it's like supposed to be a rock version, but he's very lounge thing like a lounge guy as well

Like it's so it's such a funny mix. They're like you got it We got it like poison meets Mel tour me right right They had a live band there and then a live band is the Rivers of America and and at the pig races I don't like music tomorrow land. Oh my god. I'm in Main Street

So you have five live bands. I do I legitimately It's upsetting to me that they don't do this level of live entertainment more and they'll never go back to what I'm assuming I mean some of this is How would they ever approve any of this now?

But even for something that's like synergistic with a movie I just think it's never gonna happen on this scale ever again I mean I was complaining about Pixar fest this year not being to the level of Donald's Quacky Duck City In Tokyo, but this is this blows everything else out of the water as far as stuff you would go Like original unique stuff and this and it's this kind of thing that is why this podcast remains proudly pro-eisner

That's right thing this decision that has been made that he ruined the company and I'll look at this look what What happened right just one of the many thing there was so many odd things like this not even counting all the new Shady added and then attractions and hotels right Bob Iger does not approve confusing things and that is the problem

That's right. It may all makes too much sense makes perfect corporate sense Michael Eisner You throw some weirdness at him and go it's a state fair, but there's BMX bikes and also there's a hillbilly pig show Yeah, okay, that sounds great sign off on it

This this is before PowerPoint presentations, you know this before And present all your ideas with slides you would have to verbally do you think you would get Verily you guys know what if there were slides in the 1980s, but there was no right over at projector That's so expensive. Yeah, we're a project It's a good no sports something overhead projector These came so fast and furious these events like one after the other that

They had to even though they were impressive. They had to be kind of slapped together. Yeah Yeah, and we're gonna happen like they had a turn you know planning the next one as the other one was happening Yeah, and then some of these like like

Backed blast to blast to the past I can remember it is kind of not the first 88 and these are both in 88 but like they there's an overlap was I was reading that yeah Were the two big Year so like there's stuff constantly happening at the same time that you have star tours is brand new Yeah, it's brand new more new their building splash man. What a time right?

Yeah, it was very very exciting. I'm so curious what like just your Tony back Obviously he's working and star tours, but what did that core top level imagine you think about some of these events Which were seemingly slapped together? I wonder if they didn't like it. I wonder if it felt like if it felt that's what I'm getting at

Yeah, yeah, this money was definitely spent. Yes Like money had to have been going here instead of creating new attractions right and at the same time like scotch is said like They're on the road Yeah, yeah, maybe be in support of the the theory behind it

But maybe think some of the execution was Gen. C. That's yeah, I wonder because yeah I do you don't yeah, you hear the all the big imagineers talk about the big projects But I'm always curious about what like what department did this stuff and do they have any input in it?

What so ever and where they like there's a big Ferris wheel in the middle this like I'm assuming some of them weren't pleased with some of the choices But I guess it's temporary and maybe they didn't care so much I don't know well have we talked about the notion the theory that's out there that

And maybe we've said this at some episode long ago, but that the Ferris wheel I think people really hated the Ferris wheel being in the hub and blocking the castle Yeah And and then that was not the case the next year, and I think they even I forget what was there for Circa

They kept these these events I think nobody like motorcycles were there for the circus Oh, it's motorcycle okay Well, yeah, I think people thought that was really silly and people in the company in the theory is that the partners statue the Walton Mickey statue was built as a permanent thing that you can't move so that they can't put a bunch of bullshit You can't have sumo suit wrestling

For entire summer in the middle and for blocking the castle. What was funny with these events though is it it was almost like you weren't there for Disneyland like you were there for the events Huh like especially like with my family in particular Like my mom had a very specific way

That she liked me to experience Disneyland when we went which was going down Main Street Crossing the draw bridge going through the castle you had to do it at order interesting before you do it anything else You had to go over the draw bridge and through that castle

Huh and then we would do the fantasy land rides and then we would take the sky-weighted tomorrow land into America Sings and that stuff and then walk across to a venture land and then Tom Sawyer's Island and then bear country Right and get out of there before the teenagers came

When at the end of the day a mad dance, but for these special events like that was off the table Wow, it was all about these events It was all about getting that like scheduled at the beginning of the day with okay We're gonna see the pig races at this time We're gonna see the lumberjacks at this time. We're gonna go this this and that try the pie. Try the chili

Like so it was almost like we weren't at Disneyland. That was kind of a secondary thing That was fun like when we did that throwback night a couple years ago Even though that was still like on brand Disney It is interesting how just changing some of the music and changing a few things about it Really does mess with like your normal Disneyland day Like I could see all this new stuff just being thrown around and like you go like well

It's this is a different thing. They've really they've really changed We were there so it's that to go to the state fair to go to the circus to see the blast to the past stuff Thumpers Easter are you mentioned as well? We started recording what was thumpers Easter? I was like an Easter egg hunt and you know The Easter bunny was there and yeah, it was very lightly themed

It wasn't like all over the the park. I though. I think maybe these to a con what like there was a real physical Easter egg hunt And then a sticker thing and they're footage dumped us with the I believe that only happened once. Oh, okay And then the other limited time events that I remember going to which was the only one that I was very disappointed in was the Disney after No, oh

Afternoon Avenue. I maybe I was just the right age. I would like whatever they gave me but at the tip that those ride overlays and Inflatable stuff. I like that balloon. I like those big it had such a I mean my love of like You know 80s purples and teals is very influenced by like those big inflatable tubes that ran through the small world

I did love the ride overlays like the boat overlay with the gummy bears. I loved But I I just remember Hearing that they were building duckburg and I would be able to go to duckburg And when I got there seen duckburg and just being so disappointed. Yeah, that wasn't very good That was like flats that yeah, if you're yeah, I see what you're saying you know what I was like the slate Slate age differences make it such that I was not duck tails was not my show like that

It's so the micro micro like because what it was duck tails I and then chip and Dale and then dark winged like those are so much more my shoes Maybe I wasn't as offended by the Lava Lacka by an inaccurate depiction of duckburg But if dicks tails is your molten core syndication thing because I watched Hours of duck tails Mm-hmm and we're like I did too. I just don't it wasn't like mine. Oh, well wasn't your yeah Yeah, the other ones did come later. I'd also seen in like magazines

What was going on in Orlando with Mickey's birthday? Oh? Yeah, and the duck tail integration there And it wasn't that good. I but to me like it looked just seen in the magazine It looked great and I was expecting something on that level and I felt like it wasn't even on that level

It was bigger. I agree. It's not yeah, it was kind of chancy on that general scale, but bigger Yeah, I remember feeling that way seeing it because I was like the the idea that you would go see the money bin Obviously was was very exciting, but it was not giant It was not yet to the to the correct scale. I mean I felt the same way about birthday land when I would see pictures of Tuntown in Disneyland which I would yeah, and I would be like oh well that's amazing. Oh, this is okay

Like there's a less good. It's less there was also like some of this limited time stuff You would wonder why they didn't just keep it like why not keep the cutouts of the gummy bears in the boat ride No, sure. Yeah, why are you yeah the boat ride was Deceasing We've never done an episode about motorboat crews right? That's that's a dry one I think Oh Mike

Jason's like I know I don't tear me up. We haven't done an episode let alone the gummy bears version of when we do our stressful pitch meetings of what episodes How it Jason stands and so I Anytime there's one where it's like I'll ask a little dry less little boring. I'm like looking my job So I'm like let me add it let me I love the motor boats

Parking lot tram. It's Exciting Michael Scott Scott trick. I stand today again and say motorboat crews should be What did you get Scott trick from your head to dress up my name like that was very He's found an overhead projector That much expense The Talk about thumbper's Easter. I don't know

Out here on the west coast. I mean, I'm assuming they are everywhere, but I remember growing up the Disney Easter parade Special was as big as the Disney Christmas parade like and So we would have to tape it before we went to church or like catch it Before we left or whatever

But and I don't know when that went away, but they would do the full You know parade with the top hats and you know the hello dolly stuff hell Yeah, yeah So many There was a room on Main Street all of it was filled with wide petty coats

The Christmas parade the the Christmas stuff was the one thing I never saw Because as a local like you stayed away from Disneyland during the holidays Oh, yeah, so like I don't remember going to Disneyland and seeing Christmas stuff until I was like a teenager right Wow, huh, and then like yeah, they did do Halloween on the level they do now didn't do Halloween at all

Like I think this was I think the state fair looks kind of during that time. Oh, yeah, maybe I wonder when they first try Like they first did like a pump Mickey pumpkin like I don't remember Any sort of Halloween stuff at the park's growing up Hmm the first time I remember like you would go to nots Barry farm for Halloween like that was the thing Oh, and then I remember Or creator of the hot when horror nights started at universal and like pen and teller

Being there. Oh, well And also as a scared kid like I didn't want to go right any Yeah, yeah, right in the Disney version was a little too intense. Yeah, can I play a little bit? I just want to zoom through this actual parade the state fair parade Yeah Just get us get a sense of the song and then get a sense of some of these

Characters I've never seen before and have not seen since I assume you guys saw a little of this. Oh, yeah But this is just a little bit of like the music you would hear And like this is yeah, this is from 1988 Appetite for destruction came out a year prior. I always like to think about The kids are like into guns and roses, but they're going to see this in 1988 fair Stayed fair and then maybe you have a song from a meat being sent lowest

But yeah, the bunch of like straw hats and like I don't know how you would describe you like Bert from like Mary pop and style jackets green blues the rest is white suits Yeah, and just this was a huge parade huge are so many floats and people and performers and just like a couple weeks before this

They would have been playing like 50s television characters and the blast to the Recess were just they've traded the greaser up they went back they went 50 years before the blast to the pants and then a couple months before that they would have been like lion tamers or whatever and the circus parade

Right, it's wild. Yeah, so it shops and it's not like anything is so like crazy impressive expensive But it's like there's a tractor coming down Main Street and there are Weird scarecrow guys and weird crows and they don't look like Disney characters that I've seen before they got always Like always again. I was just saying they look like they look vaguely like the scarecrow from return to Oz Yeah, vaguely, but they don't think they had did they have returned to Oz there in the park?

No, I don't think so I don't think so, but I don't just like oh these suits seem like they might have been created for this

Well, then you got a whole original lineup of characters. You got the vegetables. Well, right. Yes, and that comes after this So you see these scary scarecrow type characters and they end gone I don't know if you saw these Scott these these are very much like raggedy and raggedy andy style performances Yeah, and they're dancing with Crows that are also human size right We're having so much fun the scare crows and the crows are getting along right and then coming up behind

So this is like I hate their crows. Oh my get their giant gaping mouths Yeah, and now here come the vegetables They're giant and the perfect Vegetables, tomato, broccoli with these big nose like floppy the broccoli boys Big floppy noses that are like look like they're bullet like they're inflatable noses. They're just bouncing up and down And have you seen these characters ever in your life at Disneyland?

Where did these suits come from did they I don't know like they're the corn has like overalls to act like it's is Whatever is what do you call the outside of a corn? Husk, thank you and boy. It's just that's weird and then here come like chip and Dale and aprons I got like all of the costume characters like that had like different versions for each of these events Right, and this is by the way three minutes into it like 12 minute parade

There's so much stuff they packed in here. I don't mind the The broccoli boys and the vegetables like I could say I could stand the vegetables hang around sure I'm not mad I'm I would be interested to see all of them. I just wonder did I think the tomatoes look cute? Yeah, I agree beautiful eyelashes The mano looks a little beautiful. Yeah, man sexy if you really want to be honest you feel free I I was complimenting I said you know like I'm talking about like you know weird tomato porn stuff

That's what I'm thinking automatically. I don't know Jason. Is there a tomato? You're being weird here I'm normal I just said that her eyes sparkle Now here you are talking about tomato. I knew what you meant. I was reading your signals now the pumpkin Now the pumpkin and I don't the pumpkin seems like a real meanie. Oh, yeah, yeah, this Stirred must have the pumpkin a little foreclosure house on you The Disney characters that get featured in this parade The three little pigs are in there sure

Uh Clara clock. I feel like is a barn. Yeah, she's in a barn in like the top of the barn. Yeah I did double check that name when I was watching the parade. I was like we chicken From old Disney car. Okay, Clara clock and I believe one website about her refer to her as an old friend of Mickey's Okay, so I guess I

Was in some old shorts famous I keep around I gotta be nice girl. You know the people you came up We have like Nicholson May we date a And then they just start bringing live animals down mainstero boy Two there are like these big pens or cribs that I think there's a cow and there's a maybe a sheep in there

There's a maybe a pig in one of these, but I think there's a cow. There's these weird I don't know how you've even described these I guess pens like fancy kind of fancy cages Fancy cages that are being dragged down Main Street with like sleeping animal real-life animals in them and then

Like more animals like Dopey is in a car being pulled by a mule Whoa like a real-life mule It'll be behind the animal husband your eggs right and there's there's like a human being like making sure the mule doesn't go out of control and run into the audience But then there's a goat just being like pulled down Main Street and horses and What are these?

like oxen like Oxen are coming down Main Street I didn't make it to the animal These are notoriously can't tanker his animals to be surrounded by people There's a bunch of them and we're six minutes into a 12-minute parade at this point So I like I was just like this is wild and this is where Justin tells us that he was attacked by a three ox Spirit he had to recover for many years and this podcast is very serious turned right they would let you pet the animals

Like they were like close by yeah, like they were encouraging it right and then we get to the part where you get an anthropomorphic box of sugar You get like a sugar box here and then like I think this is a milk bottle with eyes walking down I completely missed all these characters. Where did they get all these these are the elements of the pie right? These are the pie ingredients walking down Main Street. What's that one? What's the bottle?

Vanilla extract bottle of vanilla extract with a big bowl and gloves Now this Jason you have to admit turns you on all this feels like Jason's pie This is it this for all of pair this is for private times This is just wild we're seven minutes in now and we have the ingredients for pies walking down

Well, Jason doesn't want to hook up with any of them. He wants them all getting a big pile Because it went because when these guys get in a poly cool, they made delicious That's what you refer to in baking it's a molecule of ingredients Jason starting his own poly cool that's all anthropomorphic pie ingredients makes a lot of sense So yeah, okay, so yeah, we're going down and there's is there a butter stick?

I don't hold on this is I don't know who that one was who I'm gonna ran by he looked to mischievous There's a little kid though like in the itching scratchy prey with this a little cute axe That's what that looked like yeah Screeing flower that's milk that's vanilla and then what is this salt or like the sugar was over here It's too far away and it's overexposed

Maybe a dish of some kind. Yeah, so I don't I'm just Yeah, and then there's a country bear representation here in like big like floats And then I'm trying to see if there's any other real like Donald shows up and I don't know this is wow And then like full like like marching band style like performers are coming down with and they perform with I don't know What you would call this people to perform the sticks in a marching band or you call those performers Yeah, they got those marching sticks

Then there's flag performers I like this is more ambitious than any parade even like paint the night Paint the night as like I feel like 10 performers in it and impressive floats This is like 200 performers And like that's a big reason why these events felt special like all the performers like it was kind of overwhelming Well, so like yeah, I was I didn't know the grandeur of this I'd always heard they did a state fair thing the end Yeah, I didn't know the scale

We we've only briefly mentioned the pig races. Oh, we got to get that we got That's the name of it. I think that is I mean we can get the week believe me we can get there We can do that right now because yes back in big thunder ranch They were having an event called pig mania When I Told my mom that I was coming on the show to talk about the state fair. She immediately said oh the pig races I loved the pig races

Like my family loved the pig races. Yeah, and was another thing that I remember openly wondering like why is this not just here all the time? Because there was nothing else going on back there. This is before the barbecue restaurant right Big center whatever was called before whatever is there now. What's that thing called? I don't remember galaxy's edge

Something like that. Something like that. We're the ghosts back there. We're the bad thing. Okay Like this is the first time I ever remember going back there was for the pig races

It's possible. No, you didn't go to this if you didn't if you're a kid and you don't go on big thunder Maybe you don't go back to that part of the park at all exactly Yeah, because we would do fantasy land and then sky way over to tomorrow land So I don't know if I ever went back there the pigs lured you to this zone Four pigs at a time seemingly yes four pigs at a time and then they would do of

Like a he-ha type show. Yeah, it was another like big production show where you had like another MC Just like at the lumberjack show and you had another full band Yes, and they were doing bits and they were also doing crowd work and you're gonna make us do a second gate about he-ha Justins the expert on he-ha. No, really he loves he-ha Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll do it. Yeah, that just seems like a Mike campaign of the future. I love Hill Billy nonsense

I love it. I love it more every year. I love it more every year I'm like a hundred you love Hill Billy nonsense more every year. This isn't a fact. I knew about you Yeah, well when I was a kid I was very much only space I didn't like the past I was not interested in the past in any way I didn't care about that type of thing like Fiddles or Banjo's I wanted like I was already a huge country bear fan at this point

Yes, country bears was my favorite attraction at the park. He's a long time Hill Billy nonsense fans. Oh, yeah From their way back. Okay, so this was like a live version of the country bears. Yes, which was great Right. Wow. So yeah, no, I'm in the last decade. I'm much more into this this genre You know, it's the mute little Jimmy dick. We talk about the old time country music

I'm into after in the wake of Bob wills little Jimmy Dickens. This is definitely another episode But if several times I went to the country music awards at Universal they did it Well, they would do the awards in the amphitheater But then they would sprinkle the acts throughout the park So it would be like live from jaws Brooks and done in the song and we should come jaws In the performance really was wild

I mean, I meant to bring it up earlier, but your father had a hit song in the 70s. Yes, Billy. Don't be a hero He if he was here he would tell you three hit songs. He would correct. Oh, I'm sorry. He is not a one-hit wonder He would be mad. You're on the foot side of the buffet. 43 the 20 songs that all Jimmy buffet that all regular people know At a sane person would refer to him as a one-hit wonder Hang on I'm a three hit wait, yeah, Bo Donelson and the

Bo Donelson and the Haywoods. Yeah, so you were around a lot of the old old music not the old time like Jimmy Dickens But the old well eventually I was because so my dad had a pop hit in the 70s right and then His band broke up in the early 80s Actually the toward the end he was playing a lot at the Disney parks right like they were One of the regular bands on both coasts cheese well And I actually I've been searching for footage of them playing at the parks my whole life and

And finally someone uploaded footage just a couple of months ago really I'm playing on the tomorrow land stage. Oh cool on the terror. They're up the rising Yeah, exactly that's cool That was also a thing as a kid is like since my dad Played there all the time he knew about like the behind the scenes of the park So my dad was always telling me about like the underground

Cordolas and stuff like that when I was a little kid. Oh, so it maybe sparked the interest and the yeah Yeah, and then my mom would also like tell me the history of the park Like she would always be like oh, this is where the flying saucers used to be and this is where the house of tomorrow Well like right so I was getting both like sides. I feel like so really making me like a Disney

Right junky at a very young age. Yeah, I feel like I talked to your dad was that about Michael iceberg Yes, like last time I saw the keyboard guy Tomorrow and my dad said that he was one of the best musicians He's ever seen life Wow, they there was there was a bar at one of the hotels in Florida that like all of the musicians would hang out at And my dad would hang out with him Wow, yeah, I talked to an iceberg. That's amazing. Yeah, he loved him

Wow, it's the guy who like there'd be mirrors on stage. You can watch what his hands are doing Yeah, we should do more we should go more in depth in this real quick because we had just we're talking about him recently

You went in your dad with tour did he tour with Bobby Boris picket? Oh, yeah, well this was not in like the monster mash guy So in the late 80s early 90s my dad's band reunited right the Morning LA morning disc jockey's Mark and Brian Re-united my dad's band wow I and I think like 91 or 92 and once he was back together he was like

We're hidden the road like we're oh wow. He meant that okay, so he was really into country music at the time so he put together a country band and Because like my my mom was really into country dancing Which we would also do like line dancing or yes line dancing like she taught line dancing and actually We spent so many nights at the neon Uncactus at the Disneyland hotel. Oh, I was one of them. I'm so that that sign really takes me back

I feel like it old pictures. We spend so much time there I was one of the only all-age line dance places in In orange city in orange so my mom could bring me while she was line dancing So it was during that time that my dad started a country band and we go to the country music awards and stuff like that And this is right this is in prime Billy Ray Prime Billy Ray my mom you find any room in the line dancing club my mom made me cut my hair into a mallet because of Billy Ray

Like we were all in to this early 90s country. Oh, you're a molleted kid. Oh my god But when that didn't work out my dad You know decided to go back playing the hits from the 70s So he went on the road in the mid 90s with a bunch of other acts from the 60s and 70s and I went with him First just like help out and then I became their road manager

At 14. Oh my god So I went into like a school work program where I would just take my school work with me and we were just on the road For my teenage years and one of the acts that we were on the road with was Bobby Boris picket who did the monster mash

And I remember meeting him for the first time in Boston when I was very very young and he was just a very Reserved nice private man I remember we'd all go to like a cracker barrel and he would ask for a different booth So he could just like quietly read his book

Just like I'm not me with them. Yeah, I just like did not feel like a showbiz guy at all And then he would come out every night just to do the monster mash and he would turn it on And he did all the faces with the voices and he had a lab code with a fake spider on it sure And

He was reserved the horror cc Dracula's Frankenstein's wolf men, you know And Bobby's uh my favorite thing about Bobby is that his rate went up the closer it got to Halloween So he had a set rate From November through August and then September it would start climbing It's like Homer Simpson investing in pumpkins and There was there was a theme park that he had a standing Halloween date at

Um that like booked him out for like years. Wow. I don't remember when I got contracts. Huh Um, yeah, Bobby was a super super nice dude Well, that's nice. I'm glad we do Disney lands got state fair. How do we compete? We've got picket We've locked in picket for 20 years. It's iron clad. We have three minutes of entertainment every Halloween Bring people out No one else can do the voice no one can perform this song It's an impossible impossible no one does an impression

Uh, what's his name? Uh, well, we got to do more like to old time tomorrow in like rock band stage stuff I feel like uh, and if you your dad has more stories or anything Also, I have mentioned on the show before that you put me on speaker You put me on a three-way call with your mom to talk about Randy runny in a k chuckle of the clown

Because she remembered him from the old days. She remembered the show Yeah, my mom grew up in Hollywood uh And like spend a lot of time just like being in the audiences of Shows like that right and your grandfather was a performer Yeah, my grandfather was on a variety show

Uh, called the western variety hour The ktla western variety hour Um, and he was around like during the days of like ktla almost becoming a national network I went stuff like that um And yeah, so my mom like grew up in Hollywood around the entertainment industry

And like went to a lot of those tapings Right Yeah, yeah, local kid things Yeah, it was just like what you did after school Sure, so she knew all the locals She knew all the most famous clowns in the Los Angeles ktla almost becoming a national network reminds me of thing Overthink that fascinates me

A lot of it is lost media at this point But the Dumont network One of the first television networks And it's just like it's gone Like all that stuff is like hardly preserved It's in every night at home Where is Dumont stuff?

Dumont uh Siri download Dumont Plus Um, so let's go back to pigman yet Real quick Maybe not real quick maybe long Uh So the uh the character the barley boys were the band Yes, yes, in the host And some of the performers would go on to be Bill Hill and the Hillbilly Who played at Disneyland for years

And then they got fired right before Star Wars land Yeah, I think this is kind of the lasting thing of From the state fair is that the band that was Over with the lumberjacks They would go on to be the house band at the neon armadillo at Pleasure Island Oh wait because Eisner saw them performing

Yes, I did a fair he did a full like that guy like yeah, this is special You got to be performing it in my own clubs The band at the pig races became Bill Hill and the Hillbilly's Yeah, who played it for years at Disneyland And then that was the beginning of that like with more comedy a larger band

Right, and then they were hired I don't know if they're still at knots but they were hired by knots after that Pretty quick, yeah, but I don't know I don't know what their status is right now if they're still going or not But yes, they would have they would do a whole like he-hawish routine with jokes They would play swanney uh, but they would play it with They would say it's swiney instead there would be a lot of uh pun Puns style pig jokes and much like the movie posters that we would

get it eventually at Muppet Vision There were like fake Movie and posters with pigs in them Yeah, so like this is a picture of like a jaws parody with the like award hogs Throat uh and undersight like and it says chops instead of jaws And there was like a Rambo parody and like a Frankenstein parody

Pig, Kaso, Albert, Einstein So that was all in the queue to get into the tent where the race is Hambo, Rambo first, Hambo Pretty good, like this is like Chuck E. Cheese style Like animal parody stuff Huh And there was a big like kind of circus tent where the show would take place Yeah

And it's interesting I'm kind of confused by the geography of it I remember the barbecue restaurant but It's pretty much exactly where the barbecue restaurant was So yeah, I'm just interested to see what because it feels so big

It's feels so this feels so much bigger than the area around big thunder ranch My memory of the car is it all fit in there Because I know there would be like would open up certain things for events even 10 years ago and race and we're going when we were all going a good amount

Yeah, like um crazy Kirk and the hillbillies Oh yeah, their new name still seem to be performing regularly at knots That's good I do Disney hold on to that bill hill in the hillbillies trademark with an iron grip Oh yeah, I don't know

They wouldn't let them they wouldn't let them take that name to knots There's some lawyer That's like pro wrestling like oh you can't leave you can't be teddy outside at wwe I know but you can be Ted Sure sure I just think they should have allowed it that's all I'm saying

But I guess yeah if you want somebody you know you want the option to do the show again It's precious IP But I don't you know what I don't feel like they're going to ever really bring back full hillbillie nonsense to Disneyland They're saying ever sort of not in that

No idea what a vendetta this was for you Well now I don't I don't think I would have ascribed you you as being interested in the hillbillie nonsense at all No I have a country bears and like Tang whenever they kind of reignited my like I like

Well I probably what's probably happened is that I've put up a wall when you talk about you know who I've been listening to is Yeah little little little little little wizzy bigons Like all right can I make a face the show as I don't want to hear any more about little wizzy bigons

I know you don't know you're busy died of collar on 1990 It was the first noted case in America in 100 years Well Jimmy little Jimmy Dickens has a song called hillbilly fever and that it's he talks about how it's going around Did you encounter about you this in Illinois?

No okay I didn't care about it when I was a kid This is all mostly an adult thing when you were so when you were a seven-year-old child you weren't interested in hillbilly music from the 1910 No I was gonna shout it as this I just meant more as you got further into the sticks or like I get the Wisconsin When I would be seven and be driving into the sticks to go to like an old like a creek Look, Pension with a spancho player

If you would sing has some sticks I think maybe I encountered that a little more If I had seen pigmania but I think as an eight-year-old whatever I was No, I was being younger than that And I went to Disneyland and it's like okay, there's a there's pig races over here or star tours

I have a feeling I would still have been like star tours is awesome And I'm confused by this it was a maybe it's too sophisticated I was too kind of a dumb little child to understand the sophistication of the the hillbilly humor I'm glad you're putting down your child so I was a dumbass you see now

I understand that hillbilly nonsense is where it's that I mean good why go to space when you can roll a log You know what if I'm really analyzing myself if I really if I think when I really start to get into country music Or the start of it is getting into Wilcoe in college

Alt country early Wilcoe is all considered which is an annoying title alt country And there's a lot of no depression music no depression Yeah, yeah, and Uncle Tupelo Jeff Tuy's original band so that that's maybe a straight line to me listening

20 years later to see get into the get you will go eventually leads you to like oh I got hillbilly fever is right on your team Yeah listening to Bob Will's I know I live in a pig pan It's something like Picon pie like this is definitely a connection between the two

Piece of Picon yeah, and but forget the flowers on being like there's plenty of little like a country Shuffle type music songs from the early Wilcoe so that leads yet to me listening to like I'm trying to think what the Y'all come by little Jimmy Dickens It's a song about everybody coming over having a little my wife and me got one tooth between us I like the idea was song about Everyone come over now yeah Yeah, that's all it's about So come and then like that comes back to the country bears

Yeah, I get it I understand and you you're a big country bears guys and you're very pro new show from what I remember

I think it's great. I do. I think it's great like it When I was a kid, you know The country bear attraction felt like it was always changing because we had the summer overlay and we had the holiday overlay So like I don't think it's like necessarily wrong to there's precedent there is precedence search change The things that bothered me were very very small, but they bothered me a lot Just like removing the stove top hat from Henry from Henry right like to me he doesn't look like Henry

He's like a different jacket. Yeah, the jacket's fine like but why Lose the hat well cuz Sammy would be in the stove. Yes That's the whole game you can wear it. There's not a skunk in it

Still puzzle that bothers me the name change. I feel like it's a little clunky. Yeah But the actual show itself like I think like I have the same kind of feeling about that that I have with uh Tiana's which was like splash mountain was so broken down and a shell of what it was Yeah, and the last time I went to country bears like it it felt the same way So like I'd rather see these rides be updated like this whatever juice then just Rock your way. Yeah. Yeah

Can I name the pigs that would take place in the race? Yes first race featured chop suey pig. Oh my heart Four squeal drive and pig foot I like four squeal drive the best I think of all of them a name wise I think you're just you're just laughing at all the second It was done like uh medieval times too where it would be like this section is for this pig For that pig Names the pigs up on a board and would you get anything if you're pick one just the pride sticker. Oh, okay

So was anyone gambling on these races? Oh, I'm sure it had a guy to do it on the slide because these are real pigs So it wasn't like they could rig. Yeah, I guess we should have clarified

Yeah, these are real pigs. Yeah, I'm a triumph. It's not soon though They would do a fake out Uh before the final race where they would build up that the final race was happening and then instead of the real pigs coming out Right the three little pigs And the outfits would come out and do the race Uh, sometimes chased by the big bad wolf

Yeah, and then they would do the final race. Right and so there's wait well first of all let me go back second race was borewinkle piggy su pig Piggyus and the curl next store Uh, which I guess the curl is the tail I suppose that's the joke there and then third race features three little pigs

You'll limp pigs 1998 and this is followed by a race of four very hefty black pot belly pigs who fall and crash into each other a great deal The show ends with the band and the three pigs singing and marching into a rousing version of the battle him of the republic Well, now that they need in galaxy's edge We need some the battle him of the republic. Yeah, we need to see all the characters singing that Mm-hmm, uh, and yeah, this is like a 20 I think 20-minute show

Uh, that you would get and it had like a full set. I did you see that you watched the videos and everything or saw a picture of it I didn't watch the full pig No, I'm not asking for the full. I'm just saying you saw the set and like you know that they had a little set uh here and Yeah, so I will I'm I was trying to figure out I think I would have liked this maybe blasphemous to say after I was talking about Hillbilly music, but I think I might have even liked the parade

Better than the pig races, but I wasn't there. I wasn't feeling the thrill. Yeah, you weren't feeling the thrill of the live pigs Racing and it was a mixture of everything like it was the atmosphere It was the excitement. Uh, you got to meet the pigs after Sure, yeah Yeah, just I remember just absolutely loving this as a kid and everyone in my family family loving it as well And being very excited that it was coming back the next year

Um, I believe these are the lyrics to their new version of battle him in the Republic. Yeah. Yeah. Sui Sui Hallelujah No one loves you like we do we Raise our banner and salute the our pigs go racing on our pigs go racing on Sui So you would all like do a sing along at the end there. Yep. They would bring that banner out and you would read the lyrics Is that disrespectful to the United States of America?

To rewrite the lyrics I feel like somebody I made like a parody of the Pledge of Allegiance one some adult told me that that was like a very disrespectful thing to do And I did does that extend to all the allegiance to the far right And like does that extend to all the different sort of America songs like this? I don't know It feels like Walt wouldn't have liked it if it wasn't I don't know they would have disrespected his legacy like the whole thing was a salute to America at the end of the day

Well, of course. Yes, but yeah, so I guess I guess they approved it. They approved it with Ronald Reagan And I'm sure he signed off on it Ultimately, it's his country at that time. I mean his his mind was gone. Nancy was running the country Sure. Yeah. Yeah But Yeah, I just I don't know there's probably stuff we're even forgetting or Leaving out here, but I just I feel like I'm so worried that you're gonna find more pig names more lyrics to these songs

I'm around every year and I'm like what's left the change? They probably change names. Yeah No, I don't have anything really. I mean I was just looking through like there was a like a blimp that had state fair on it I don't know if this was just for an ad or if this would do you remember watch out for this is gonna hit those space mountains buyers He did not as far as I know there was not it's and there was a cause of two pop

Oh, oh, and we're not everybody likes pop stuff. So but some people really like pop really into the pop stuff So yeah, this is just one where I just I again I get sad I get upset that we'll never get some dumb thing like this On this scale ever again things that cause your depression on this show Yeah, I don't get to go see Quacky town

There's a parade with three big Donald butts walking around. I don't get to go Pixar Fest if I had to do Donald's Quacky duck city or state fair I would want them to bring back state fair Hands down and I liked a lot of obviously I really liked a lot of the Quacky duck city stuff

But the idea that you would have so much new Stump stuff to see at Disneyland is would be very exciting to me I don't know I guess we should end the episode should we just stop I am finding that you're enthusiasm Oddly I Is your way for us I think to go hell yeah I'm not expecting you to do that. I'm expecting this guy Yeah, I'm just quietly pleased I guess Are you thinking about balloon stuff?

I know I'm thinking about turn of the century set musical then thinking about the music man and L.O. Dolls. Oh, that's why we said the names of the songs two hours ago And now they're just spinning about it Yeah I'm not saying about chili pots and pies He's thinking about chili pots and pies and I'm Polycules of anthropomorphic ingredients. What is what is a recipe but a polycule?

Perfect You know Perfect to yes, I do really in the way that you thought I was going to be into back blast to the past Mm-hmm into this yes, wow the true and it's not you'd rather You'd forego your beloved rock and roll in favor of Hilbaly nonsense. I guess we've learned a lot about you here. Yeah, yeah, you would have loved the western stunt show at Universal on the upper lot

Oh, yeah, yeah, I've seen some yeah, I've watched some of that. Yeah, yeah, that sounds good too Like you put dynamite in your pants Yeah, more hillbilly fun it blows your penis I'm live real penis is a very show. I also like seeing I didn't realize that dazing land did um grocery store promotions like Obviously, I saw that a lot with six flags growing up But I feel like Disney World it was not there was Disney World promotions at McDonald's because you had the anniversary

Right, right, you had different events and stuff, but you're excited by the idea that you would go into Albert's since yeah I'd go into rouse spend it off money get a free coupon right coupon is you have to do this to activate the coupon Which is very much dc land now like Well, well if you buy ticket you have to make a reservation All right, well that is something about now that we're talking about excitement over Disneyland market

Promotions, I think suddenly I'm feeling like the I think I'm relating to the way David Sims has been feeling at the end of every blank checkup So lately, I think I'm simsing. Okay, this is a reference not for everyone sure But similar snorers overlap of course, you know, you've heard it. You know, I'm saying I get with that look. I'm calling it just a Donaldson you sir by podcast the right Thank you

May my current feelings notwithstanding. Thank you for bringing us this this stuff. I can all this stuff I'm gonna give shop anything you'd like to plug I if you're here in LA uh At dynasty typewriter you can see tournament of nerds Uh, we've been doing the show now for 16 years

Wow, we did it for 13 years at UCB and now we're at dynasty Uh, so come check us out um, you can watch uh uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, yeah, I web series I wrote and directed for all elite wrestling called Johnny loves tia Uh, new season of that is coming out soon Isn't our isn't hillbilly nonsense boy and some of that stuff? I mean, yeah, I don't know if I'm in season two But I'm in season one my oh we the we that we're we're right now. Okay, good. Yeah

Uh, yeah, Mike plays the dog's agent and uh in the show Johnny's highest dogs. Oh, it's about time We got him taken more bumps Yeah, I need me to do I claim that it's professional wrestling is first romantic comedy I don't know if that's true, but uh, that's what I like to say when I'm on these sounds good. Yeah To get tagged uh

Yeah, I think that's about it for now. Great. Great. Well, yeah. Thank you for joining us Thanks for these memories and spotlighting these seasonal events that were more meaningful than I realized Uh, for us for three bonus episodes every month check out podcast thread the second gate

We'll get one more bonus episode on our VIP tier club three You'll find all of that at patreon.com slash podcast the ride Uh, new $20 tier where you get customized podcast the ride inflatable stuff if you want to see us grow if you want to see us pop

That's your place to do it. We do demand a little more money for that. It's worth it But I realized I just found a button you get when he says my pig one at Disneyland So I'm assuming you got a button that said your pig one Look at that you don't say huh, which now if I hit the red button down there that would stop the recording But I just reached down and that would just that would it's actually it says extend the recording on hour

That's actually you have to talk about this new button. You got to talk about the button. You can do it This has been a forever dog production executive produced by Mike Carlson Jason Sheridan Scott Gardner Brett Bomm Joe Silio and Alex Ramsey

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