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We have put microphones in dirt. So say a quick prayer for Muppet Vision 3D, then dive into our 2024 D23 Parks Panel Recap on Podcast The Ride. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, currently recording in a quadruple steel reinforced bunker to make sure Deadpool doesn't get in. I'm Scott Gardener, Mike Carlson's hiding here with me. I'm here and I'm scared. Scared of quips, scared of snide remarks. Some of his ideas are a bit unorthodox. I might not work for our show Jason Sherd.
I'm so sorry, misunderstood the directive. I left the door wide open so Deadpool could get in. Ding Dong motherfuckers! Wow, I hate to pitch so early in this episode, but what if they kept a great movie right around, but Deadpool was the one who hijacked the trams? Oh, shit. They would have done that. Oh, that's great. That's pretty good. Then you get a current movie instead of the general idea of 40s crime movies, apologies, Jason. That boring old crap, dude.
Yeah, not that old black and white snooze fest. New guy. Replace the tour guides with Deadpool and all the actor robots with Muppets. Well, now we're getting really wild here. Take a movie, take one actor, keep him the rest of Muppets. Now take that one actor. He's gone. Now it's dead. Yeah, that's for that prompt is going to go so viral I can't wait. Yep. Hey, well, everybody, happy Sunday as you're hearing this, I think. We're trying to turn this around pretty quickly.
Yesterday, we all experienced horizons, a Disney D23 experiences thing, and just as that event itself was upgraded to primetime in a big arena, we are upgrading the D23 recap. We've been tending to do here to the main feed and getting it up a couple days early. Yeah. So here's your main feed for the week about all of the exciting stuff that is actively happening, that is happening, barring any pandemics or end of our country in theory, these things. Right.
Well, not all of the announcements are for our countries, those we find. Yeah. And this is just the general work anyone doing work in America is disrupted, but mostly shovels in the ground anywhere from 20, 20, 22, 20, 20, sex, for a restriction of the likes. And yeah, and sometimes maybe not even those particular dates. Yeah, okay. I mean, it's, all right. We've done, we've been through a number of these.
And I think we've seen cynicism levels ramp up to the point where there was a lot of, you know, we did an episode where we bet on stuff and there was a lot of the betting. So sometimes successful betting was on no announcement of this. I pulled the audience on still calling a Twitter and there was a lot of like, all right, where do you think we're getting such and such? Here, here or not happening. The not happenings were huge. Yeah. There was so, this is where everybody is calibrated.
And I will say, from last night's event, that was not nothing. It was not, it was not, no, definitely was not nothing. Oh, no. You really, if you like stack up the list and especially now you can go on the Disney Parks blog and see kind of like thumbnails of a lot of it and you're like, well, that's a lot. That is a lot of stuff. Yeah. So I want to say that right off the, right off the bat. And also I will say, because the time frame, yes, anything can happen.
Supposedly according to Disney people, all of the stuff they announced yesterday will be, I think, completed in five years. That's what they're kind of guaranteeing. But I don't think any date was said about like a lot of the big one at the end or, yeah, a lot of things did not have dates on them. Yeah. No dates and also know this is the, this is where it's going. Well, yeah, well, sometimes missing. Yeah. Well, there were some, there was a lot of slight of hand going on for various reasons.
Sometimes, the, for instance, I mean, we're going to say we're going to talk about all this, but of course the big thing is the monster zinc land. Where is it going? We don't know. There's two pieces of concept art and one of them shows something different than the other piece. So it's arranged differently. Right. The monster zinc factory where the door coaster is going. So I don't know if that's just like they found, they thought those were two splashy pieces of art.
Because also the Lion King land going in France, they said it's animated, but the promo art shows the live action. Live action. But they did say animated dull tan characters ever conceived. Right. But the, but the model does have animated symbol on Pride Rock. Oh, so that I think is confirmed we get animated Lion King at that land, which is good.
So I don't know if some of this is accidental, like slight of hand or it's like, they're not, there's not saying the date yet because they don't want to commit to. Something very specific and they get made fun of later. They want to show cool art and sometimes they're contradicts, but we're sort of, you know, they say what we're finding out is not blue sky, but sometimes the art. You don't want it the art to be so like, well, don't do that because that's not going to work for the space.
Like you want it to be visualized. Yeah, yeah, however, but I guess what I'm saying is like, I will give them credit for saying that five year thing. That is a pretty, they have not committed to things like that in the past. So I guess there's a chance that in five years, villains land is done and ever like all this stuff is done and we're on to another round of stuff. I don't, I don't believe it. It seems hard to believe.
I was optimistic about all the stuff that I heard and now this new thing you're telling me I don't believe for one second. It's saying, saying it out loud, I don't know that I believe it. I'm just saying that is what I believe unless they were saying, well, in five years, everything will start. Uh-huh. And I miss it heard because I have a couple different people have said this.
I've seen people say it and I was talking to somebody about it and that's they're interpreting it like it will be done in five years. But some of the timelines just feel so far out. Well, what do you mean? Like in terms of like, and this is going to start construction next year or 20, 20, say, I don't think anything is starting this year. Like nothing is starting this year. Stuff will start like no, no, no, um, I think it is tropical America starts this year.
Well, that starts this year and then the Walt robot stuff is already started. But yeah, as far as there's like, they announced 20, 26 is when a lot of stuff or Coco was starting in Disneyland, I think, like starting construction. So I don't so therefore and the way that they build, I think what you're saying about this five years, I think they should have said that should have been like the number five should have been up on the screens.
If they meant that they would have said that would have been a huge part or like the finale would have been and this is all done in five years. I don't I think if they meant it, they would have underlined it more. Well, I don't I do not if we're if we're opening bets up again. Sure. And this is not a bit. This will be a better. I'm going to take you up on this bed. I'm not Disney. I'm not saying no. I'm just saying this is what I've heard from multiple sources.
So remember the Harry Anderson Disney decade. Like you remember all of it. I wake up in the middle of the night. Sweaty thinking about it and remember the D23 where they brought out Dick Van Dyke and said that there's a very poppin. Right. Yeah. Remember the play pavilion. I mean, that's the Paul of of cynicism that I think has to. Oh, but Eric, I was I was the one trying to say we got a bunch of good stuff and look how quickly we've all rained on my parade.
I just my new spectacular nighttime parade. I was trying to actually give a little more optimism. I guess you were. I guess you were. I remember that five and it made me mad. Yeah. I was not in a rain in your brain. I I was trying out cynicism with this one because the last few I went in so optimistic and I was just like. Jason has been experimenting with cynicism lately. Never encountered it before. Wait, it's really wild stuff. That's progress for you. I guess.
I feel like I was getting hit for being like this like wide eyed optimist when I was betting about D23. But then I went back to what I actually had said and really all it was is that I thought tomorrow and was going to happen and it did not. But everything else I said was not anything wild. So like my I feel like I was actually being pretty reserved in my optimism for this. But contrast is you too and contrast to the last couple of these people just like this fucking lunatic. Good luck, pal.
Keep dreaming, buddy. And I was like, well, maybe we'll get a new tomorrow and then like people are like shut the fuck up. You don't know what you're talking about. I did kind of fight and say that in there, but I think yes, some people felt it. Now, you know, I don't want to do this whole episode through the prism of the betting that we did.
But if you're if you're only on main feed and you're on second gate, then you should know the last week on the second gate, which is our Patreon, we did an episode where we made bets about what these announcements would be at this panel. And assuredly, this is going to come up through the episode and we'll do a tally and we'll figure out who won the night. If you want to check that out, that's at patreon.com slash podcast, the ride.
But you know, we'll explain what our bets were and refer to them as we go. But if we're sort of going in order of how we experience this thing, I feel like a brief nod needs to be given to the high difficulty of watching it. When in the past, Disney is just provided a stream and then we set up all this stuff. We're going to do a couple episodes based on it and then it became, huh, okay, something for the cast members.
And then it's going to wait. Is it going to be on fortnight? No, only some of it is going to be on fortnight. How do we do fortnight? Jason says he can do fortnight. I have a fortnight log in and I forgot about the apple epic games feud where fortnight is not in the app store. So now you have to download either Xbox live or download Amazon Luna and you kind of have to. The hell is Amazon Luna? It's like it's a gaming platform.
Some of it is free with your with a prime membership. So you literally add it like do the thing where you add a website to your homepage, which makes or add it to your home screen on the iPad. That makes an app launcher and from there you can get in a fortnight. It's within it's an app within an app with it. There's like three or four ways to like load fortnight without the fortnight app. Were you playing fortnight on Luna? What were you playing it on? I have I played I have it on my switch.
I was playing it on the switch, but I don't have the online switch. You don't have a switch. Oh, you don't. Okay. Yeah. I say you found a switch that doesn't have the online ability. No, no, I just canceled it after the three months. I got dial up switch. Yeah. Yeah. You found a third party switch on the black market. Yeah. It doesn't have online play. It says Game Boy Advance on it. I don't quite understand. Oh, you're playing fortnight on Game Boy Advance. Oh, okay. Now I see what's happening.
Yeah, I really enjoyed the watch in the panel that way. And I thought the little dots that comprise a Josh tomorrow were quite insolable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Eight handsome pixels. No, I was going back and forth between two YouTube. I think we all were multiple YouTube live streams. The ticked out collage stream was pretty consistent. Yeah. I was doing that one. And then I was doing one where my there was like a streamer watching it along.
And it had a pretty decent stream. And then I would just kind of get oh, oh, ah, like I would get reactions from this person. And then they would get confused. They think they were about to announce something like really cool. And then they go, whoa, whoa, what? What? And then it would be nothing.
It would just be like they played a little like part of the horizons theme where they played like kitchen cabaret. Like they played some reference to some old. Oh, what are we getting? What are we getting? And then it'll be nothing. And they just like be quiet further. Well, I kind of did that when the stream got choppy at one point because I didn't I couldn't tell it was Billy Crystal walking out.
Like, who is that one of the songwriter? One of the song writers. Was it really new in the songwriter for us? No, no, who was the one who did like the D23 in Japan where everyone was sobbing? Oh, Mankin, Ella Mankin. Yeah, I was like, is that Mankin? I can't make it. And then Mankin, one of those songwriters. So you didn't always monsters. Okay, I couldn't tell it was monster zinc. And I was like, oh, is he bringing out right? Yeah, it was a white haired man.
Yes, I recognize Billy Crystal from a mile away. Why it's Mr. Saturday night himself. That's how I recognize we've all been primed to know what he would look like older because we all saw him what he would look like older when he was younger. We all know Mr. Saturday night so I mostly know him now as the gift with the tissue box that very cruel people on Twitter. Like tweet Rando's tweet is someone's complaining about like injustice in the world.
People use Billy. People use the Billy Crystal from I think it's when Harry met Sally. And he has a really like. Drill look on it. All right, don't be sending me any Billy Crystal. This sounds like the cruelest punishment. You're getting it. If I express disappointment about these announcements and I get in and I see any Billy crystals in our feet. We say blocked forever. Yeah, I guess I have to ultimately think so. Cal Hansen parks. Thank you for your stamina for holding the phone up. I know.
You're a very long presentation. Yeah, this is this went so so long. And some of what added to the length I feel like deserves a little bit of time. Which is that if you tuned in at 7 p.m. the announced start time and you hooked up to some guy's phone as did like 10,000 people. Imagine being one of the three people streaming and then you start realizing you got 10,000 people watching what you're filming.
Yeah, again, I'm not sure what is the what was the Disney rationale? Why would they not do it? You had to log in with the Disney VPN. And then your stream was watermarked with your name. If you're an employee. If you're an employee. What your name on it? What is the why? What is the reason here?
People's I don't know is for sure the rationale people have made online is that this is the first time they've had two separate tickets for D23 one for the actual convention center stuff and then one for the Honda center stuff. So people are acting like they're thinking that Disney is trying to make this thing such a spectacle that you need to be there in person and you need to keep paying us extra 100 200 whatever it is $300 to go do it. That's the only thing anyone can think makes sense.
And that is the only thing I can think that makes sense and then they can put it up like a well other than yeah Jason was saying like maybe I have to pay musicians if it's streamed or something. The union musician. I don't think so. There was a orchestra here in terms of spectacle. There was definitely spectacle. Yeah. I mean this was a pretty elevated. It was it felt like more than an up fronts.
Right. Yes for sure. They made it very theatrical. If you were there, it would make sense that they are in a hockey arena. Sure. That said, did anyone want that? Are you the do you go and you're like, oh, and I also get a musical salute to all of my favorite Disney moments or because I feel like so much of the audience watching this at least ourselves.
And then people we know who are writers and journalists and stuff are just like, please tell me some names. Tell me some things. I have articles do. I got deadlines to meet. Why am I sitting through? Why am I watching Shibuzie? I was told from people in the room that everyone liked it a lot and it was fun to be there. So for some people it was fun. I think if we wanted to and we're not going to do this is go through the whole performance.
And I think we could all cut out for the three of us at least cut out half the music. Yes. And still be like, okay. Because like some of the music felt right where it's like, oh, they're playing the horizons theme. It's an orchestra. You're like, oh, this is nice. When you get to hear the horizons theme in the Honda Center with an orchestra. And then it's like, oh, we're going to do like song from a lion king or something.
You're like, I've heard this song. Sure. Here the lion. Like, there were some things that felt more kind of appropriate to me or something that was like, oh, my God, I'll never hear this song in a venue like this. It has never occurred to me to want to hear trust in me. A song called, a song covered by Rita Ora. It seems like a big get for this. That's Rita. That seems. I mean, there was some surprise about music that we liked, I think, but still it was confusing. Why are there?
I definitely had no sense there would be this much. Yeah, which I guess is good if you're in person. But yeah, if you are the type of person who is just like, please tell me some details. Tell me some names of rides. Tell me some locations of rides. In terms of being there, I did get a message from Neil from the band Kuku and happy play some forum vintage or collector. Neil, he was like, you can get drunk at this present. They are often sessions open. Great.
Yeah. So maybe people were drunk, I guess everyone was drunk there. I will also say to you, both there's a meaty. You could have a drink and not be drunk. What? What would he mean? Because a happy medium that could be reached. It's just funny. We reached to. So you could be black out. You know, you could be there and then forget it all. That was too far. Just asking the last time. Can you get hammered? Yeah, yeah. I wanted to be.
Hammered. Hammered. Very good. Looking at Josh and then like heckling him during the show. You call that an announcement, pal. Where's Deadpool? He's coming up later. You're going to get so much of him. So, so I don't know. Some of some of the music I liked, but also yeah, I'm watching on like a weird like stream and like doing three things at
one. So I'm like, all right. When the announcement coming, you know more things. I don't know if they made the calculation that the audience there wouldn't want more like hyper specific details about things. You almost felt like they were like, all right, here's two pictures. You've heard it. Now we're on into a song. And I don't know if they were like we don't want them to get bored or upset. But you're like, I think this is the room where they want you to talk about like the paint that you're going to use to paint these rides. Like, yeah, that feels like the audience. I could be wrong. But I almost felt like they were like partly.
Partly hesitant because they didn't want to commit to certain things or reveal that they're destroying a beloved ride. And then in other half, I felt like they were like, well, with this show's got to keep moving and we got to get to a song. That's what all these people are here for a song. You're like, I don't think that's right either.
Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't. Yeah, how do you calculate? I mean, I guess if you're at, I don't know, T23 is like, you know, broad Disney fans. Right. So maybe like a bit. I mean, I'm a big or get presentation. But I also feel like the same people.
Would want a little more in terms of my new detail. Yes. And they got a couple of the segments. They did a little more. But a lot of it was like, here it is. Take five seconds to look at this picture because now we're onto a song. We're onto five more songs. Shockingly fast moving through stuff that is like what made me a get like. Yeah, yeah. I would say precisely two things in it that had me just like grinning like an idiot.
And none of it was meditated on for too long. I'll say what those were as we go. But let's give a little time, a little time to what happened. Oh, you tuned in at seven p.m. Yeah. Which is the opening act. And the opening act turned out to be the band from the Mad Tea Party. Yes. Which was this limited time California adventure. Alice in Wonderland. Not rave necessarily. Well, it's party. Yeah. If I follow the musical celebration.
It's over in the Hollywood Land area of California adventure. And if I like the year previous, it was the Tron or years previously electronic. Electronic. They're like G rated rave. And then I feel like some of the spirit of it carried over into like a very allot like what would you call jigs Johnny Depp, era Alice in Wonderland aesthetic, which ended up being mostly covers of popular songs from 25 years or or later. Yes. And then a DJ would do like a g rated rate DJ white rabbit.
A g rated kind of rave over in that area. But this is the this was the band from the from those music festivities. And this is something we talked about on the Patreon Patreon.com slash pockets the red a couple years ago. And I was surprised to be confronted by it on this big platform to suddenly be have the Mad Tea Party to talk about and boy did it give us all a lot to talk about before the panel itself kicked it. Yes. A couple things happened. One Jason said is this the Mad Tea Party band.
Mike responded. I don't think so. They're not the right vibe for this event. And I was really confused by that response because I'm looking at it. And I'm like, wait, so we're saying it's a different band that has Alice in the mad hat or in it.
Right. There's another band. And then you explained I was first of all, I was doing three things at once. I'm watching my daughter. I'm mostly listening. But I'm also on at this point or whatever stream I was watching was far away. I could not see the band.
So I'm kind of listening the background. I will that comment was a joke. Obviously the bad the vibe is right for the Alice band to open at the 20s. I didn't know if you were criticizing the music you were hearing or if you were saying that the Alice band is not the right.
It wasn't even that I should have if to punch up the joke I would have been like that band is too hard core for this audience. Oh yeah, aggressive. Yes, it would rock these staggy journalists too far out of their chairs. Right. Yes, exactly. But yes. So I was hearing it. And also I know I think part of it was that they were doing a mashup that I'd never heard before. So I was like, well, this isn't them. I've this isn't the song. This is what I like about you and happy. Happy.
Happy by for. Now what'd you think of it not knowing what band you as a blind taste test. What do you think of the mashup? I like happy because it's playing in universal studios a lot. So I do like it. I don't listen to I don't choose to listen to it ever. But I like it when I hear it. What I like about you. I think is one of the like 30 songs I never need to hear again in my life. Yeah, we're pretty covered on that also a very theme park. I felt like that's in that's very far.
Oh, yeah, yeah. So I niche maybe that's part of it. They're playing what I like about you. And I was like, oh, I need to hear what I like about you ever again. Wow. You hear this because if we had fed and say properly the battle lines of the argument about that mad tea party band. This is something that at least in the Patreon episode Mike loved.
I love the man on and I never understood or got on board Jason feels more that you round up to my side. I was there with me in the air brother in the pit. We're in the pit. We were hanging out. I used to say all the time. Go, you know what? We're in the pitch. You guys get in. Yeah, you guys are gone a lot of elbows around the house. 9 year old when I got spooked. Yeah, you can't approach me from the sides of behind. I'm like a worse.
I can't deserve that is what I said at the time. I didn't know. I didn't know it's just unconscious. But I yeah, around six or seven or eight when we would be hanging out at the park in the old days. I would say, you know, we could do that. We get mad. And sometimes we would and I get a little grin on my face. And then we would walk over there for 30 minutes, 45 minutes. You look at the way times everything's bad.
You have a car to say large. You hand you walk over to the back lot area. You get mad. You get mad. Yeah, you hear Alison. Well, I do think I would have gotten mad. That's true. If I never joined you for this. This is what you do. This is the cell that you were doing. And I saw videos then. But now I'm watching them play the Honda center. And so I I'm coming out a little testy just reminding ever so remember this is the thing the mic was for 90 minutes was trying to tell me how great this was.
Then it goes on and they do covers of separate ways and call me. And and I was made for loving you by kiss. If I heard them do that before that's new. They they've been learning new songs. Well, this was your argument when I was kind of having some qualms about the quality. You said, well, the set list is different. I know in the old day and the old days they never would have done call me. They might have done call me.
These are the other nothing as planned. They've sold out. It's never would they have done a call me. Yeah, they would have been too busy doing rapture. Never would they have done a call me. They've changed it up a lot. But they have been it not for the last couple of years or at least for a year. I don't know if they've been there the last year or two. Okay. What are they called there? We've said this five times on the show and I can never remember what it is.
Because once they're not in the outfits, you know, I just can't remember the name. Plasum. Yeah, you're good. I don't want to insult them. But they finished a song and then they said. All right, we just got a couple more songs and again, the panel is late. They said 7 p.m. Now it's 7.20 and we're watching the ball. It was party band. In your feed, you heard a woman growl very loudly. Yeah. And she said we got a couple more songs.
Like a really like pained noise they made. Multiple people were messaging me. I said, Matt, because a lot of people were watching on bad streams and people were texting me about it. Well, we were all texting with Griffin Newman. And at some point, deep into their set, we lost Griffin. Oh, he officially said, Mike, I do not like this. You were again arguing set list and all things. This is not their venue. This is not their venue.
I'm not sure if it's a text in which I like to see them. I have to see them at Disney's California venture with all the weird furniture and the two big guys playing tweedle D and tweedle dumb with the accents. Sure. Well, because they didn't just fall out of coconut tree. They exist in the context of all that's come before.
Look, that's never been more true. The context. Sometimes it's true. Maybe all the time. It's true. It's all these true. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no. And I said, well, of course, rock bands famously don't really work in the middle of arenas. That's not never really where they shine. And then you see, you're making this argument Griffin is being firm. And then I get a text from another person who will go on name for our purposes, who was in the room and texted me and said, why does Mike like this?
This was this was started as a night of tragedy for me. I got hammer all night in different ways and not the good hammered not the hammered get in the Honda Center hammered all night. I did get one and a message of encouragement from someone. Well, I guess maybe I'm revealing who it is, but he said as a person in a cover band. I approve of this. Okay. So it was a gentleman who was showing support for me. Well, this is what you just like cover bands. This is what it boils down to it is. Yeah. And you get a lot of like I feel like.
Like I feel like it's these are just this is just a difference between you and I you hear a song being played on instruments in front of you and you go, yeah, it's not quite enough for me. Right. It's a very good cover than wonderful. But you're in no matter what does not matter. I like the music moves me so much. It can be like last good quality music.
So I'm so sense I'm so hyper sensitive to music. He's music sense my brain is so music sensitive. It's kind of like superpower. Yes. So like you can put except for a couple songs. Like what I like about you. And then maybe like those three wedding songs we talk about all the time, poncho V or whatever. Yeah, I can you band come in here right now. And I will just like like Jason when he smiles a pie on a window still.
I will float toward the cover band. Yeah, I was going to say Mike's music sensitive and I'm at the corner in the corner pick it up. They cool down the order. It's like. That's how you guys manage a party. Yeah. Yeah. But everyone seeing them there makes me upset because that's not how they should be viewed. You weren't there. I thousands of people with Jason and I they didn't give them all of their extra stuff that makes them as people.
It was like your rec room your brump is right you could sit in a big plastic chair and view the stage from there. And that makes it a different viewing experience than this. They've taken a completely like they're on a little stage there. No dressing where we're tweedle d and tweedle dumb. They weren't there. So I'm just saying everybody was upset. And what do they do? What do they add to how are they going to say? They are the tall issues. They were so big.
They found the biggest man I've ever seen. They were big boys. We love our big boy. It was beautiful. Big boy season at a man tea party. These two guys playing tweedle d and tweedle dumb would walk around a kind of like lightly hassle people. And it was interesting and kind of scary. But it added to the atmosphere of it. So if I was so I would understand it if I was in a different type of chair and a big man was harassing me.
That would be that I would understand the music of music. And there was like six with tall playing clubs like you haven't lived since you had a you wouldn't live until you had a pre made cocktail next to a six with tall jacket clubs and a large man is bothering you. That's right. Jason gets it. He was there. He lived there. What's an example of their bothering.
Hey mate. Hey mate. All right. I feel like there's some cockney voices. Yeah. No. I think they were like legit. I don't even think they were. No, they weren't. So I'm the heaviest goons you've ever seen to play tweedle d and tweedle dumb. I'm trying to put myself there. Okay. Alice is dressed like Mulan Rouge the movie from 24 years ago. The mad hatters hat is taller than most hats. Yeah. I'm listening. I hear them singing. Wake me up and wake me up.
I can't wake up. And then and now I make it get out of my way mate. You're a piece of crud on my shoe. Well, you're right. I do get it. Like a Vinnie Jones type. Yeah. Yeah. Vinnie Jones. And then they switch into shake it off, which was still pretty new at the time. There was all the kids were jumping up and down. You know that thing where kids don't quite know how to dance. So they jump up and down because they're so excited.
And you have your half way through like a neon pink drink and there's like a little alcohol in it. But maybe you had a better drink a car. Say an hour prior. So it's like just like helping to keep the buzz going. Yeah. I have to rope in my one of my favorite places to drink in order to make this work. And let's not forget you're in your late 20s. Everything is possible now.
You're never going to die. You're never going to die. That's the most important part of the mad tea party. You're in your 20s when you're seeing them so far. This thing only made me mad. But the first time it's made me sad. Why? What? I don't know. I look at you. You could put. I'll just listen back to that later today. I don't know what could be wrong with it. Maybe something about what you might what you said might make you a little sad.
No, I'm just saying that's part of it. Part of it is being in your 20s. Well, look, things are still possible now that we are in our. It is that's true. What are you again, Mike? Whatever it is. Whatever the number is. I don't know. Uh, uh, but what does this mean mad tea party potentially could come back somewhere? They didn't say it didn't say it. Honestly, the first part of the D23 panel was like fan service.
But, but not, uh, I don't mean that in um, shitty way. I mean, like, oh, it's the soren video recreation. Well, you mean the intro stuff? Yeah. You mean the 25 minute intro where they didn't get to an announcement. Oh, please. My clothes at least 45. Yeah. That what a bunch of bullshit. Anyway, let's do more mad tea party material. Let's give the people what they want right at the top.
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No, I, uh, yeah, hey, so I think as far as like turning this into a little Oscars. First of all, we didn't know it at the beginning, but the Billy crystals in the house. And then that they do. I mean, a cold open that's a, uh, like a parody or a recreation of Soren with the man himself, patty or books. Amazing. That was great. I really enjoyed that. And I think they as someone who has analyzed that video and thought about it a lot. I'm like the edits are the same.
They could have done this a lot grudder and it could have been knocked out by a team that didn't have love for the original thing, but it was like it was pretty pitch perfect. I'm guessing they did it because they, like whenever they had that other Soren video a couple of months ago with Patrick, they probably all did it at the same time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of PR call, right, which were a little what a clever little thing that they got a couple pieces of content out of it.
And then I think the big the surprise I thought when they aren't cutting to the guy with these little beauties and then we're going to cut to the mouse. I thought that was going to be a cameo from Iger or tomorrow or somebody. I thought that's what they were building to, but I was not disappointed if anything was maybe better to realize it was the same guy on the video the first time around. Yeah,
I don't know who that actor is. I don't know if he works there and thus it was easy to grab him again or if they track down this person again just for that, but I it was nice to see him. That was really fun. Yeah, I feel like the audience really popped for that. And then they were all hammered. So of course they're going to pop. They were in the right and they were riled up from rock and roll.
You got to think about if you were there besides the person who texted me, why does Mike like this? Everybody. Besides that's cynic everybody else is so amped. I honestly they're probably laughing more because of the rock and roll then because of the rock and roll in the one and a half ballast point IPA's in them, you know. You're describing precisely what I can drink in a night now. I can drink a half. It's good. I like the session ones for many years because there are a lot weaker.
What do you think about the grapefruit? I still don't give a shit about the. Wow. The ball goes back. Jason still doesn't give a shit about the grapefruit. And now I've bought enough medications where they're like you do whatever you want. Tony grapefruit on this. What do you great grapefruit? Apparently interacts with a lot of medications.
It's a pretty common thing. I believe. Yes. Yeah. All right. Jason don't get pregnant. Stay away from the grapefruit. Yeah. Keep not giving you shit. Be careful. But then the real big opener live is that we realize there is an orchestra there and then a lot of build up to a piano man center stage. Will it be Alton John? Will it be Josh Groban? No better way better.
John Stamos show kickoff by Stamos in a leather jacket reminiscent of perhaps even literally the same one he wore when Jesse and the rippers blew the turrets off of Cinderella castle. And then the last episode many years ago they are at this point in the show I'm like well they're going for us having just done a big full house episode. Yeah. And warburton and like a tea party and Matt Tea party and they're going for some of us with that.
So that was fun. It was nice to see Stamos get to perform for a big crowd without having to sit through Mike love applying that he fucked his mom. It was a nice ball like a nice break for him. And then he seemed like sincerely emotional about being there in his fandom is very clear he got some jokes off about owning the sign that used to be a harbor ball of art. He got some joke about Disney adults.
Yeah. Yeah. There were a lot of singers tonight. There were singers. Yeah. Between Stamos and Deadpool. There was a lot of singers. I agree. I will say general I will be the first to groan about the comedy content of something I did not do a lot of groaning. No I didn't mean that.
Yeah. I think I actually think that like whoever was writing this if it was individual was different groups for the different bits or one team for all that. I thought like it was you know nothing I thought was corny cringey like inside jokes enough that and like a lit for them a little bit biting at times with Deadpool. Yeah. But I actually did like it comedically now do I think that it needed two separate comedy song and dance numbers from okay what Darren Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know that felt like I don't know that always fine but I think Mike you're saying it felt a little redundant like okay we're now at our like third opener right I yeah I was like steam was always okay so
okay so I'm going to show the song yeah I guess now we're here the announcements and it's like no there's another host of the show you know like okay there's another musical bit yes that's where it started to feel like that's when I said there's going to be 20 songs to every one announcement for every one announcement and I bet you wish you would put money on that I certainly do that is that was true statement of the evening yes so yeah no it was at that point I was like that
I was worried yeah because I went oh shit they don't have anything to say yeah there's nothing I started getting fearful at that point because I go they've burned 15 to 20 minutes on the main part of this presentation with just songs they most in these two guys yeah yeah I don't know why I thought this was going to be an hour or maybe 90 minutes to they said it was going to be 90 minutes I think the
the list that is just shy I think of three hours yeah yeah but they had listed it I think is 90 on the schedule yeah I was pretty exhausted I felt worn out the way I do if you actually sitting and watching an entire Oscar I was started fall asleep then they did the big final announcement I woke up and then I could not get this like I slept weird last night like well
and I look I don't want to spoil I don't want to spoil well I understand why you'd be ramy because you knew you were getting something big due to that announcement but I'll hold it to the end yeah but then we start getting stuff and let's let's talk about stuff that we that we get I mean avatar right away right and here we start getting into our bets because mine ended up correct on this one that it is avatar for DCA with no special no area name more specifically than that
right and and we get some concept art you know kind of like relieve the here DCA relieve that they didn't say where yet and we're still sort of left to wonder but I guess before that speculation this art looks great oh yeah yeah yeah yeah because we're not it is not the animal kingdom Pandora we are on it we're in a whole different biome this has been a great couple days
for for those of us who are blue pill because you get all this stuff and then the day before part three is called fire and ash yeah I think maybe some people had grown fond of the seed bearer if anything years ago before I'd made my switch and you were kind of carrying the avatar torch mic I heard the seed bearer and I'm like well this seems like a tedious franchise to me and now years later we arrive at fire and ash
yeah what a fucking metal that's good kind of this rules great I can't wait for fire in it oh yeah number two was water number three is fire let's go yeah yeah the real element or hit them all they're not doing like floating mountains in this but it's because it's more water based it's more like land water base but they have this like I don't even know how to describe it this like half circle sort of pattern that the rocks have taken like the shape this kind of crazy you see something like that
you can describe it yeah it's like like a crescent moon almost yeah sort of on its like on its side and like pointed up and then it kind of like shrinks in size as it goes that's a bad way to describe it but it's very cool looking and doesn't I don't immediately go there not building the mountains because that that would be my concern if they they're like oh we're not doing the mountains I go well that's kind of the big part of it also also I think
there are still maybe a couple floating mountains oh you think so maybe a miss concept art seems to be if you look closely oh cool it's just not like the main deal of it is the lot of man's but I think we I think we got a couple little spots of floating mountain wow yeah so so that just the idea that we'll get to go to that
we want as long as we're still living California that's awesome yes and the ride is boat ride they showed a little bit of it before but it looks like Shanghai pirates that's what people are saying and it really reminds me of just because I know it better than I don't I'm not too familiar with the outside of the Shanghai vehicle but I'm looking at it like this looks very like
Jurassic Park the ride oh yeah maybe yeah gold like kind of you know yeah not not a little calm Disney boat ride but a big something that something equipped for adventure yeah concept art is cool when they when it gets dark the darkness that like yeah all of those creepy fang creatures crawling around I you know it still is so hard to pass really what
ride system is exactly but it implies to me that it's indoor outdoor both yes they show it in the like overview of the land are yeah yeah so it looks like that goes outdoors at a point that that's really cool you think maybe just one ride at this rate they didn't say I don't know I heard someone say they think maybe one smaller ride but I don't know I'm not sure you can't tell from there somebody said so to Lee can teen some kind of it some version of it because in the like the bottom right
it looks like it maybe at least something like that resembling the service in Florida which is good and we still we still don't know where I'll say this I'm kind of coming around to this is my B Hollywood land really what makes it well here so they didn't say anything about Disneyland forward I wonder if they'll ever say anything about the phrase
Disneyland forward again because all that was was trying to get the anaheim city council to agree to let them build anything anywhere on their own land that's almost like the name of the mission and never what they're going to call the land anyway so I'm still of the mind that when they say it's coming to California adventure it could be for that land that was achieved with the Disneyland
forward program right so so it could it could be the Disneyland forward area which is next to the Disneyland hotel like that's that sort of what the Disneyland forward art was now it doesn't necessarily have to be there they could just build a third park on the Toy Story Park and let we don't really know 100% what they're going to do I don't know that they know that but I kind of suspect if this is far enough along for them to announce it and then suggest that
it'll be done in five years it might be in a place that they know for sure they can build on and I've heard enough people say Hollywood land now for months and just looking at Hollywood land like the pathway in the concept art looks like a long like kind of like the entrance to Hollywood like you're looking at I'm showing them a Google map right now you're looking at like all this real estate that is a ton of space I think
and you think in this version we lose a Hyperion theater absolutely that I think it's I think it's everything here up until Carth like right at Carthay it basically starts feels like they're not like pumping a lot of life into Hyperion theaters so maybe we're like getting us ready to get right and I've heard people say that's going away as well and not even in relation to Avatar going here now you say there's no transition this has been your argument yes and I this is I can get I'm
wrapping my head around this in that like well there's not now and then the first thing is going to be Carthay into this but I don't know if you if you lose all the rest of Hollywood would if you lose that main drag and marvels far enough away as a world where this where this works and you just need to like build some jungle right to
lead you past Carthay I mean you put a pot of water will do a lot for transitioning you can put up a big it just thematically almost doesn't feel right to transition that hard from old Hollywood into Pandora but if all of you're saying you mean Boinevista street yes yes whereas Boinevista street into Hollywood feels pretty natural Boinevista street into whatever
underflets is called now the yeah soren and all that feels very natural into like Napa why all feels very natural and so Pandora would be the strangest thing to come out of you just been in 30's Hollywood the Hollywood of yesterday and in the Hollywood of the future the made real you know the thing about story is that it means so much to all of us well that's true he can he got out of that one he wriggled his way out of that yeah that's like a that's
trump card that's a flash bomb to any argument there's a reason they call me little tomorrow tomorrow junior they do call you little tomorrow in the bar of junior so that's the only reason I'm like more thinking that that's where it's going is just because like they have if they're committing to it and it's going to be five years I feel like they would want it to go in a place that they are sure they're building and if they've planned it out and plan what it's going to look like and what the
what the building is like I guess they could just plug it anywhere in a toy story scenario where these toy story lot did they give a date on when they are putting the shovel and ground on this well then what's this five years I don't know I think you're holding in this five years no timeline provided says Carly was all and her is to a crime so what did this five you got to get this five years out my hey I'm just going by what with what they said when did they say five years
this was people talking to PR people that's not in the panel that's not anything yeah well I'm just saying that's what is said in the bed in the bed and up a so you said they have to they have to do tomorrow at why this have to and then they are I'm upset I know well I'm just this is my theory this I
might could be wrong obviously I was wrong about the D 20 to panel I'm just saying that enough people have said Hollywood land now and there's enough room there for it that I'm starting to believe it I'm not going to bet I'm not going to bet on it I'm just going to say I'm starting to believe
that this could go here sure sure the only reason that I'm arguing against the possibility is that I just want as much land as possible for this I do not agree constricted but what you're showing me is a lot of land if we get rid of the theater that is a lot of land you know one suspicious thing is that if you look at the vague mysterious map of what the kinds of structures that might be in the Disney Land Forward Zone it looks very much like this
concept for it they're showing us it doesn't mean anything all right because that's not official right but that is like but it is art made by Disney that sure looks like what this picture looks like they definitely could change their minds I don't know they'd be able to lose a word weener see there oh man chase kids got to eat hot dog and you love the fries at award weener I like the fries I'm more concerned about corn dog castle I don't think is long for this world really I think
that's fine right what are we talking about putting there well I think the next thing at a announced was cocoa hmm where where and the I don't think you have doesn't corn dog castle essentially back right up to like backstage might keep the map where's corn dog castle isn't it by either the questions everyone's been asking is is corn dog castle safe I look I just like that spicy corn dog corn dog castle is right here
which is next to that little gift shop and then in between the gift shop and goofy sky school it's behind corn dogs it's the hotel you're fine all right relax relax yeah yeah there will always be you know I don't remember Walt's quote but isn't it something like Disneyland will never be done as long as there's corn dogs in the world that's right that's what he said that's right so we're for yeah maybe it's
something the robot here the robot it's this is how great out of the robots now but yeah if we're going in this is where I was I will say my two big grins in this was like I think this Pandora stuff looks fantastic yeah and right after that another boat ride a boat ride you've never heard of
this didn't come up in the bedding we talked about the possibility of something cocoa but with no genre of ride announced and that was more that was something I said about magic kingdom never saw coming California adventure cocoa that was a big guest for me this is one of my favorite parts of
the yeah yeah I have never heard it discuss I guess somebody I was talking to somebody else after this and they were saying they had heard it maybe Disneyland but I'd only heard it in kind and like the idea of a going magic kingdom in Florida so yeah I was not I was like oh okay that's cool like
that was surprised by that yeah that they announced this was a kind of a big gasp at the panel I feel because they just sort of showed concept art before explaining it and you quickly see there's a boat there and then they went on to say that it's sort of inspired by the old school that it's kind
of a pirate yeah parts of Caribbean reminiscent attraction slow movie I love I love the boat situation yeah I love that were two new boat rides in California if at California adventure is going to be stacked if all this gets yeah and yeah look as a as a fan of slow moving boat rides
besides one notable exception I am really happy that in this day and age we get a new one in the parks based on a film I think is delightful and really um technologically advanced audio animatronics oh sure yeah oh yeah see how these skeleton yeah that's gonna look awesome if
if we have to guess where that's going and if it's not Disneyland forward I do have a guess I think it's going behind in credit coaster because there is so much real estate here behind in credit coaster what is the building you're showing is that I mean there's a bunch of
buildings uh Toy Story made way many actually is over here no no no it's over where is it sorry Toy Story is here I think is in this Toy Story oh maybe yeah okay I believe and then so so there's a good amount of room here there's a lot more room there than there is when we're
talking about the like paradise paradise garden it's part there it's kind of at least say the full name but there's there's like no room over here oh you're right that's what I threw out because they've been doing kind of like some cocoa festival correct like a good yeah yeah over there
this thing uh but yeah you're right there's not really ride room now that I see it on on on an overhead but if it's a slow moving boat ride it doesn't maybe need so much real estate and I feel like you could maybe put it in it's lot of in here but it could be and you're thinking that
because it's Pixar it's Pixar here yeah and yeah I don't know what you would they would do the entrance to it I sort of don't like it for because I think the vibe of this will not be at all like the the carnival entry point yeah and I'd love for this to have some exterior place setting that
you know be I would hate that it's like right the carnival exterior and then you're not in the world of cocoa until you're in the building yeah that's a good point I mean I think that's the only place to put it unless it's Disneyland Ford and you go over the road and you go over Disneyland
drive which it might be maybe I mean maybe that is maybe avatars goes there maybe cocoa's next to it but they didn't say cocoa land also that's right so they just said cocoa ride so that makes me more think that it hey but listener if you're if you're over by Paradise Gardens Park uh check out
the bathroom over there has a very elaborate root 66 tile work in it that really doesn't quite make any sense anymore I think we have an episode in the can that hasn't come out in which you talked about the bathroom so you're getting ahead of the bathroom we got a lot of content about
this I just want to remind people to go see it in case god forbid it should disappear yeah that's the big there's a lot of talk about like I will chain myself to this building if it doesn't Jason's chain himself to those bathrooms right yeah I think you can fit like a pirates of the Caribbean's
like size building over the main dincredicoster yeah yeah if they wanted to do that uh yeah but I I hear what you're saying the facade should look kind of cool and weird and inviting and because they're yeah I think there's a chance to like the vibe should be more cocoa-ish not
just like appear there yeah I want a lot of time I want a lobby that for that's me marinating that in that vibe uh do we think there's any possibility that any of what we've just said maybe particularly avatar goes into uh grizzly peak and the grizzly peak I have heard no
talk of that I here's what I I sort of don't believe it as soon as it's out of my mouth the part of that is because does that not permanently change the fabric and the view of and the views of the Grand Californian yeah zone right and I don't think you want to do if you're paying for that
hotel I don't think you want a lot of construction for a long time and while avatar could sort of that's picturesque and water yeah I don't know I it's not it's not what I would do if I were in charge of them yeah I don't think that's happening I also think it's like I don't know I feel like
I feel like they're gonna put an IP on grizzly peak on the grizzly river rapids one of these days hmm when they find like I don't know I guess I don't know I guess they could just demolish the whole thing it seems like a lot of work it seems like a lot of work and it also seems like you're losing
something and then the hotel is not themed anymore to the area and those trees are finally it took 20 years but those trees grew in nicely for sure and also I don't want it I love that area I don't like that area I really like it yeah I um I tried looking up the for like around
my birthday in October like how much is it to rent vacation club points at the grand california because you always see or like oh try random vacation club points for a cheaper stay and I believe it was $752 a night yeah well you better start saving well it's only 650 or so the new dizzy
lid tower now I didn't know that you can rent points but I also didn't want to ask more questions about this I knew exactly what was going on you didn't you clocked at my silence you watch me doing a character he doesn't know what Jason's quite talking about it didn't know you could do it he doesn't
want but I also we're ready going way along on this episode we know this is gonna be a five hour episode um so no I saw it I saw it happened okay all right so yeah so we moved on I now I'll I'll say just in order of things one of my bets was that there will be a music performance by a
performer that I have never heard of I wish I declared that I get five dollars every time it happens yeah yeah it's started to get set now I was getting worried because there were plenty that I had heard of but then we start getting into Rachel Potter I still don't know who the uh
acapella group was pentatonic yeah I would have assumed but I yeah I missed the ID on that one um I I and then this is much later but boy do I not know what Shabuzy is and uh now that I now that I know I gotta keep going that would an electric performance so again a good night for my
musically you got a life as a highway I got a life as a highway for a shirt of Shabuzy actually I don't know him very well um but that I was a lot I was not paying so I forget what I was doing I was giving my daughter dinner or something at this point so I want to go back and watch I hope they
I do hope they put the send Disney plus so I can go back and see Shabuzy do life highway yeah Shabuzy I knew out cuz Jane and I were watching some performances from the BET awards because the musical performances they always go really really all out at the BET awards and Shabuzy I believe um
kind of had a big hit with kind of a country-fied cover of the Jay Kwan song tipsy and then at the end of the performance let's let the record reflect Jason check his notes that was not in his head Jason looked at I think you could hear it you get listen back to listen
to the note check well just a Google I just did one again the song tips I knew it has everyone in the club get tips I remember the Jay Kwan song of course um but in the BET the so he does his performance tons of actors on the stage there's a bar set and then at the end Jay Kwan comes out
from behind the bar and everyone cheers and it was pretty fun so when everyone does a rousing cheer a real thing they say for Jay Kwan we buddy in the club getting get a hammer hammer everybody in the club that being the Honda Center when they opened up the bad
wall and and like meter was saying my friend I thought it was gonna be lightning queen and so I wasn't disappointed to see Shabuzy but I was like you were disappointed to see Shabuzy you were hoping to see a car a talking car I mean I think Shabuzy should have come out
with that writing on lightning queen but that would have really made sense why was he animated and then he's like but my friend here and then my friend here and then lightning queen comes out I just didn't even really know made our new Shabuzy that well you're saying more you're surprised
you gotta follow their socials oh they've been oh they're always you know like greased together they're bomb us yeah um that's I mean let's why don't we jump around a little bit sure yeah that's something I don't think every like you know what we kind of landed on it
right before it it happened and this was this this was a mic bit I believe was some version of radiator springs that was not exactly they describe it as something where you leave radiator springs and it becomes more of a picturesque pastoral almost European uh car race I don't know
this this to me seems like this suggests to me frontier land is going away in magic kingdom this is in the frontier and like it doesn't I just feel like we're changing we're changing that as a certain point I think a magic kingdom I'm guessing because I'm like where are they at
what is this now we're in this weird you know we're talking about behind big thunder and actually specifically the bet was behind big thunder yeah money might have to be returned to people if it turns out that these things are not meant for behind big thunder I think they're going behind big
them okay okay I think this in villains land is going there okay but then what's what does any because what what goes away with cars because not not country bearers surely now that there's a new show what we're talking about getting rid of the river boat in Florida
the real soy island Jason that is the rumor that chain yourself to it the rumor is time for my land again I don't know anything this is just what people say but people are saying today that the river boat and Tom sorry island and I don't know if any water like I don't know if any water remains
but that's what that's what the word is and you're hearing it more and more hearing it more and more I do you've been sitting here thinking the same thing that Mike San and a guy and I talked to a guy and you're hearing it and there's a lot of this and a lot of I've heard very politician speak
coming out of me today yeah yeah yeah I this is kind of part for the course I feel like with any theme park rumors so I don't think it's specific to Mike but I know what he's doing sure he's doing a lot of it I feel he's doing a ton of it I mean there's got to hedge your
beds I see there's a couple like live streams I watched in anticipation of this app doing this episode and then there were people on the ground and then there were other people I was just talking too speculating I'm trying to keep everyone's I'm trying to keep it anonymous I'm trying to keep it
I'm not trying to say which streamers I watched or what other videos I watched so we're keeping it I don't because I don't want to get even trouble necessarily either that's true but if you name a name I name a name yeah but I've been so calm and wrong so far which I do watch live streams pretty
regularly and they will go to like six flags and not sing one night and keep the live stream going for the drive do it and it is very true they have like a little tripod in the car and they just talk about what's on the radio and say hi to the chat wow yeah so it seems like a lot of work yeah
well I think they're gonna read I don't know country bears and Tiana and everything I think they're gonna call it something different in that area Peko's bills is gonna go away probably people people in the last couple weeks really oh maybe country bear barbecue jamboree but then I think
it's probably more Tiana's is gonna go in there like a Tiana's restaurant okay I don't know what they're gonna call the whole thing they we'll get to it but they renamed our sort of richer country area yeah we're by you country now I didn't know that yeah that was quick it was
during it I went to the bathroom months or twice it was 30 hours yeah I know it was very long yeah I think I went to the bathroom once during a medley and then one time I went to the bathroom and I came back and they're talking about spider man rollercoaster so I just scrolled back and everything
mm-hmm think it's the god like where is that going the gesture you just did the gesture you just did for scrolling back was like what a dog would do while swimming yeah it feeds what I felt I had to handle back I had all my devices research where it was in full of that
oh right now research for it was humming I like to think you had stuffed animal assistance the apple watch was vibrating so much for the group text blowing up you know oh yeah now guys I might work Jason's wrists is like this shattered now because of the vibrations it destroyed his
bones from the apple watch just purple like when Walter white oh yeah the plastic off the uh well uh there'll be a poop era episode coming out of podcasts the ride soon but we talk about Criter Country there so obviously that's been recorded already hmm will forgive us when we're
talking about Criter Country but it is a good like I guess they could call I don't know Stubbed Criter Country now Criter Country now but like you could call that part in Magic Kingdom by you country I don't know not sure what I don't know I can't picture enough what it butts up
again yeah I'd have to I'll have to look at the map uh we're by you country but we're by you country now poo is in by you country that doesn't make any sense that is weird yeah but that's weird I don't know if they're gonna I don't think they're gonna change poo out or anything but
that's even weirder because I on this upcoming episode I'll spoil our alert say I had a problem calling uh a place where poo is Criter Country because poo's not a critter to me he's an English bear from a English boys imagination not Criter Criter's a down south kind of an animal that gets
up to mischief or whatever certain kind of mischief yeah different kids do a different kind of mischief yeah I polished state the kind of mischief right Mike every few episodes Mike starts pining for the empire you know is it was not the same when the British released all their
colonies yes and that ties directly into me not wanting poo to be in a place called Criter Country yeah uh so so that I don't know if that's gonna have to be sorted out but yeah we are by you country now which is fine but not it doesn't mean anything but I know I would say the day to day
in our lives it affects not gonna affect a lot but I do I do I like the word critter I do too yeah the only thing yeah yeah the alliteration of it as long as we're allowed to still refer to critters yeah that this is an area but by you countries full of critters then yeah I'm good to go
tons of critters on that ride there's a lot of great and there's I think river countries is still and I want to get that hot sauce I want to get the momo odi hot sauce um sure where will you be able to get the momo odi is that a restaurant uh it's a glass bottle you get it at the shop
and the tiana shop all right cool great and get it and that's November uh November 15th November 15th great uh pushed back a little bit because the the one in Florida is having so many problems it barely runs apparently like it shuts down a lot the robots are broken well good
work out the kinks there right and I think the team then the team all had to move to to California to finish setting this one up but there's so many problems that are not being fixed in Florida and I think people I've heard like they're not quite sure what's going on exactly I mean the
bones of it splashed mountain was not in super hot shape the last few years yeah but I think this is like robot stuff oh I think this is robot stuff and again I don't know what I'm still people are saying uh but people like I think the way that the robots I think when you go by in the boats
like something triggers the actions and stuff okay I think there's some problem with that sometimes but I think there's also like a hundred other problems though right uh I think that's why that has been pushed more to November I hear people saying maybe it'll be next year but November
they've announced the number they said yeah um I now also elsewhere in the splash mountain genre of attraction uh we're getting uh splashed lion kings splashed lion kings uh huh happening because there is not a splash mountain in France no I never did it um but now in disney adventure world
this soon to be the name of that other park right of the second park uh we are and because it's we've been shuffling around what are the expansion zones there and now it's starting to seem less and less like there's some iteration of galaxy's edge the way they announced frozen for their correct yeah
with the date for that with the date for that okay that one's got date and then we are getting uh uh king mountain what do you try to think of a better simple ride rock oh yeah I guess I know I really am water Simba mountain I want it to be Simba mountain yeah I know um I mean it you look at it
and there's no question of what you're looking at it is just so obviously a splash mountain inspired yeah so go ahead I was just I I this is sort of I mean it is tangential but I was also think I'm like what else could you re-themed splash mountain to and it's like I guess you could do like a cave
of wonders and have water spewing out of the cave's mouth and have a film coming out of it yeah yeah yeah it's kind of fun yeah but then to sort of to a rabie and eyes while we're located yeah it's where it helps that this is going to be from the ground up right um but it makes that I like it I
like this concept art everybody kind of ood at this sure yeah it feels sort of like I mean it is like not halfway around the world but it's very far away so I don't feel like it's not super urgent news to me but I like this as a genre of ride and it also made me think oh maybe this is like
something that would motivate the change over in Tokyo because Tokyo oh maybe we're legally quietly just is staying splash mountain just no kind of nobody's talking about it but maybe this will open be well received be enticing enough that maybe Tokyo votes to do this I don't know
do they do this in animal kingdom maybe that'd be fun they could it's just then they have another splash mountain I guess they do but there was a time where there was star tours and body wars yeah that's essentially the same I think that was a wonderful time and if the cars and if the
casting beyond big thunder is is radiator springs basically with just new stuff it's the same ride system right so it's test track I mean uh so yeah that's not unprecedented in Disney yeah yeah yeah I bet the exterior of that will look different than the radiator springs out here sure and that these are both look like splash mountain these both look like like Tiana's looks like splash mountain and Lion King would look like splash mountain sure sure yeah maybe that's the only thing that would
prevent it but maybe now who knows yeah uh I don't care I will give them credit because it does feel like at least this time and imagining they are conscious of not just making the exact same ride in on a different coast like they are at the very least dressing things up like even if
radiator springs is the exact same layout uh uh it's going to be a different ride in a different location and it feels like that's common across the board it's not just going to be an indie from Japan or indie from California they're going to do a new thing yeah even if it's the same track
layout and it's a lot of the same basic stuff I wonder what the the internal feeling ended up being about uh galaxy's edge because it is yeah it's odd and what they would have if the two were slightly different and not yes in in this kind of singular case in park's history exactly
eerily the same um yeah because yeah at the very least you would like change up the restaurants in galaxy's edge or something like change like a couple of things could be different obviously prop is the same it's so it's so exact yeah and I bet they feel like that was a little bit of
this yeah it's very exact hey while we're talking galaxy's edge there was a galaxy's edge mention in the middle of the fortnight oh yeah if you went deep into the fortnight forest there was an actual announcement yeah so that there was a weird like tune in on fortnight at 830 and then
but it was way later than that by the time it happened yeah and boy was there a lot of fortnight time a lot of this was what occupied that slot the the brine Cornell target like the arranged in a boardroom like clear this was the thing that was the most like well this has to be done we are
going to do 15 minutes or more but fortnight uh what I was shocked by was that all of the biggest power players in hollywood or in foot like you're giving me Pete doctor and Feige and Folloni all at the same time and it's for this yeah the fortnight tie in very strange and chromio uh
roll I go that popped me big chromio I was gonna say I like them but you say pop and I don't want to support anything that gets the aren't you guys creeped out every time you say popping or they pop I talk so wrestling tournament very comfortable with it I know but if you take it out imagine
if you're me aren't you weirded out do you understand why I find it so creepy if you're not used to the weirdness on this show after so many years I don't know what to tell you yeah you're gonna have to get another job yeah I'm sorry that's all I have to say my best to say I applaud spring
I get if I get if I'm pop I'm I'm popping out a new phrase but that's it we've been saying that for years at this point it's never it no part of it is diminished for me I almost any out I almost it popped me hard which I guess that's a little closer to being like a dirty and you went
I would say it is 100% absolutely something you would say about big sex yes pop to me big that's usually just me and John Cena showed up yeah for the Undertaker whatever and who wouldn't pop big and hard but yeah no we got a big chromio performance there's this is the first of all the
kind of music that they pull from is always so confusing to me but I really like chromio I've seen them live yeah it was I would say a lesser experience to watch them doing grim grinning goes yeah saying y'all heard of fortnight yeah I heard of it but still fine I don't know like yeah
that was that was funny um my kids on to row bucks now row box I have to get row bucks for spurtay every year row bucks row bucks is the currency I believe that what it is I thought you meant the juice the juice store oh no no do much sugar uh no but then yeah deep within that like if
you were that was really like barely holding on there until buried deep in it was a well wait oh they're saying a right thing okay and uh and that's hey this is actually quietly big one this awesome one of the biggest galaxies edge complaints that we have not had any other missions on
Millennium Falcon smugglers run and we're getting it and it is Mandalorian and Grogu the mic what's this face I'm mad no no no no no no no no no you think that we think that we think that we think aren't you proud of the thing have a move what you think okay I'm upset with myself ah when we were making the bets yeah there were two things I was thinking about galaxy's edge what could I bet on yeah number one old characters in the land or number two a new level for the Millennium Falcon
saying it and I thought about both of them but then I said one is much more expensive than the other I bet they're not going to do it and I bet there won't be an announcement I'm kicking myself for that reason oh not because it's not my old friend okay okay now I'm upset I was where that was
a grouchy I was really mad at myself last night for not going with the other well if we're checking in on the betting here and there yeah that was one of your biggest mistakes it was a big bet on that we are opening up the floodgates and we're meeting all the characters I still think that's
happening but it didn't say it was not an announcement it didn't say it there and it was a bigger bed and I think both Jason and I benefited from it yes well Jason though had that no mention of galaxy's edge at all bet so I lost that so we that canceled itself out he said that we're
going to even mention it all but certainly you know what who this changes my calculations if you took a snack break during the poor night segment you would think they had a mention galaxy that's true if you didn't hear it then yes Jason won but that mean if it was a $10 bet does that mean
I get the $10 because of the three statements I was the only correct one what did you say about it so there would be no none of any it Jason would be incorrect if he said there's no galaxy's edge mention I was correct in saying no new characters added yeah but then you also said you thought there
was going to be a hotel mention I think what yeah Star Cruise has a different bet different bet okay maha I counted for that is okay but am I right because can we make this ruling do I get $10 in this category I guess if you didn't make the bet although I guess Jason's is a separate bet so
in a way it is a separate bet okay yeah okay but then doesn't his bet imply sorry listener this is an interesting at all yes the bet was no mention of got or galaxy's edge characters Mike said yes I said no and Jason said there will not be galaxy's edge at all is that his bet in this
category or I really good question yeah it's probably in the category but then your bet is almost the same as Jason's but you're just abstaining from even betting at all no I know I specifically bet that there would be no characters added all right we all made three statements and only mine was
correct we did a lot of betting this is right yeah this changes that changes yeah sure sure yeah oh actually oh shit yeah another much of money yeah I mean not not radically but something but I am mad at myself because I that was absolutely I was gonna pick one of the two to make a bet on
and I picked the wrong one I like when I'm heading into something and fielding need to apologize for to the list yeah yeah yeah but anyway here we go this is buried in the show but a big old galaxy's edge this correction so much yeah and and if it goes well and then they keep doing it well
that would be amazing yeah then we're yeah and they the tie-in was that it uses unreal engine as will short night stuff so cool whatever and I like and in the artwork they show Mandalorian kind of like zoom in by a on a Jess hack character in the actual I think that's right part of that's
really good yeah yeah because it's a I don't like that there's things that Star Tours can do that Falcon can't and now we're sort of getting away from right we're getting closer you know yes because there we've yes all the same come all the complaints we've had is Star Tours there's like these moments you remember on the actual ride that you don't get a Millennium Falcon because it's a game and they just didn't put stuff like that in there you don't get actual characters in the video part
of the Millennium Falcon ride like you do on Star Tours but feels like maybe they can address all of it they could truly fix the ride yeah they could fix it I mean maybe the controls are still going to be a problem because I find those annoying still but they could do something to those but if
if we're not if it's not that you like get to be in a place that you maybe have worshiped and thought about since you were a kid like and you see an incredible animatronic and then you go and then the aftermath is that you go and deal with coaxium if instead you go on an adventure with
currently relevant popular heroes that's a pretty big that's a big shift in just like what are the acts of that experience so this one's kind of quietly yes I completely agree but you might be helping the Mandalorian and Grogu score some coaxial I hadn't thought about that
the only one pulling the back still go I don't hate that I don't think that yeah that's fine they can go after coaxing yeah sure that's not like that's the pro it's the right yeah yeah if you're in it through their lens don't eat that we need to get coaxial so here's here's something to maybe devote a little bit of time to is this monster zinc yeah situation so undeniably good news monster zinc land and tire monstropolis coming nothing much said about the specific details of that although there
was concept art where people have kooky gugly ice cream cones that seems like fun but like you know seems like a pleasant little as monstropolis is when they're taking a walk to work here like what a pleasant town and it's cool you get to be there then big piece of this the door coaster and I
saw a lot of I'm ripping off this observation from online but this is a big this is a big year for things that have been rumored for 20 years right yeah we're going back to some old internet rumors with a door coaster yeah and I remember always wondering okay but what are we are we a
door how's this going to work and then the concept art is pretty jaw dropping where no you're not a door you're next to a boo and Mike and Sully and they're on a door and you are on some souped up suspended vehicle that is powered by the canisters of screams or laughs I don't know where we are
on the timeline right presumably screams because you'll be screaming on the ride makes sense so like big old the big tanks at the top and your vehicle is the same color as the tank this is cool design this is like a way to get into that world which I continue to love and my son likes
very much all for this this ride seems great yeah first suspended coaster first is this yeah I know isn't that I mean it is true I the more I thought about like yeah I guess they're right um but yeah this rumor is certainly like this rumor is old enough to get a driver's license yeah no it's
to have longer goes there yeah I mean there's pictures of the the balloons like that whatever they call them that trial balloons but like what do they call the high balloons I might be trial balloon yeah test balloons but here in does he California venture in the area with monsters in the
holiday with the man tea party area of course yeah but there are like pictures people have of like oh here's they're trying to see how high a show building would be for a monster's in door coaster like I remember this over a decade ago crazy over in that area so this has been
floating around so long yeah and it's finally happening in fire and we get it with uh with Billy crystals uh blessing yes um and uh which is fun he's fun I I but let's I don't want to get distracted by a Billy crystal material because I think what we really have to talk about is kind of
not jokie it's the most serious thing we have to talk about because this is of course great news great news for disney's Hollywood studios which despite having all these blockbuster attractions still feels odd and incomplete so this is great however as I was looking at it online it's seen
peep there seem to be a almost definitive group think that this is replacing muppet vision 3D and maybe even star tours I don't like this one bit I it's very it's selfish I just I like I don't buy any uh even with a new experience I don't buy that millennium falcon somehow makes star tours
irrelevant love star tours yeah why would you get rid of star tours and then muppets come on that's the last place we got it did they ever put it back in kill for him I genuinely don't know uh still her is it still is it even open oh it's still a lot better yeah god I forgot I just
never read part of town um so uh I just I just think why why do you kill two attractions when in my mind there is a real dead zone in this park and that is star wars launch bay former animation courtyard you know that it's a dead zone because oh my god taking this animation tour when I was a
kid the heart of the park changed my life I was I ate up that tour uh and and it's so sad that it's been nothing for a long time but it has been nothing for a long time I feel like how do you not fill in that dead zone why do you evict the star wars and muppet universes I don't know I
will say this I didn't see a consent I saw people very sure they knew what they were talking about and say it was star wars and muppets but then there are people that were sure it was not and was what you were saying okay then there were people I don't know what she landed on it I saw like
Alicia Stella saying rock and roll or coaster and I was like oh I don't think it's that that up as a possibility but it could be it could be I mean I felt like there were three or four places people thought it could be and I couldn't find like I couldn't find a consensus among everyone
everyone seemed confused and like I said earlier the the art seemed to suggest different things the different pieces of art suggested different places I pulled our audience and this is just people's like feeling yeah maybe I mean maybe some people voting know something but when I say
whereas monster zinc going 65% as of this record say animation slash launch bay yeah 20 one percent roughly say rock and roll or only 13 say muppets it doesn't this at least shows you like this is more about like common sense yeah yeah yeah I'm so shocking if it turned out to be
muppets I feel like they put so much time in money into making that baseline tap house buy them up it's knowing that Star Wars was going to be a mess they had to have a pocket that was pleasant to be in and it kind of in the same way of thinking pack by rock and roll or coaster that lightning
McQueen show is not that old true so to bulldoze either of those does seem a little out of left field as opposed to the animation courtyard and Star Wars launch bay which is kind of nothing I guess that little girl is getting redone soon that's the biggest issue yeah that is new but is
is there a way to I don't know the space well enough is there a way to sort of leave that it's own thing I yeah that's a good question I I have to enter turn the entrance around like make you you come in from a different part of the right this is just difficult I don't know I'm looking I'm
mean I'm looking at it that's some animation courtyard right here and launch bay right here I just don't know what the site it's a land which makes me think they need more space then the animation courtyard and launch bay but then you go over here by star tours I'm like I don't really know how
it fits in like I don't know what what is it take out like does it need a Jones stunt show is over here those that a possibility as well I it's possible I guess I just I don't know it's really what I'm saying it like I look at it and it looks difficult to put it it looks difficult to slot a
land in in both of these places to me it's all strange I'm not sure I really not sure I didn't think about Indiana Jones but with a ride going in animal kingdom yeah this is a justification for no two indies but they all Lucas fell now yeah and if that's still eating people if that's
still getting the crowd it takes people off the board you know it takes people out of the walkways and rides and restaurants it's for a long time yeah I just think in that park where the real problem with that park is like little experiences which this isn't gonna rectify because that's gonna be
another like two hour line kind of it's all great right there's just we're missing like we need a lot of D tickets here that we don't have yeah I mean like the problem so don't get rid of muppets I know that's yes or start tours they're both in that category I think but like you look at the
just this is toy story land right here and maybe it's not gonna be as big as toy story land but that coaster needs a lot of real estate but do you not just like kill offices what's behind animation courtyard that we can't get maybe that's what it is maybe that's what it is yeah I think
if you look at a theme park map like you can give you in the park not the overheads but what they give you in the park and it's green in the map green means go away that means anything that is yeah can go away I mean yeah maybe you're right maybe you just take out all these office buildings
here and you go in through where animation courtyard was thanks so I mean that's that's the most room this is what I want why do you hopefully you punish these good characters yeah and love hopefully hopefully that's what it is yeah because yeah I feel like it butts up against like the perimeter
of the park if you put it over by start tours there's also very few they're running out of room for just like kind of chill area I guess around the lake and then sunset boulevard back at that opening or food court there there aren't a lot of places to just chill while everything's like
a 90 minute wait you know yeah and you're saying that muppet zones a little mellow so why yeah because no one's going in anymore mom and I don't like it I just feel like that might be the case I mean yeah yeah I mean wait to say like they they cannot possibly get rid of pizza riso can they
a pizza pizza risolas Disney world why even before we do our episode we have to yeah we got a lot of next time we go we got about long episodes yeah yeah um I love muppets I'm not I'm not saying that because I don't like it I'm just wondering I just funny that you said like oh you've
got to chill out at a place with not a lot of people and you said muppets is that area yeah yeah well he means the time means a good kind of chill like the yeah no I have for you the tap house sure uh I don't think I'm dirty if I head to bed I don't think it's going away I think it's
this other but I think you're right okay that's my guess but sure I've been wrong many times I saw someone online going like well they build an animation court or they can connect it to toy story land that feels copus said I can't do it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah they're going to
each other yeah if anyone from Disney is that because I you just knew there's no way even if it is true and his muppets they're not gonna if they say it in that arena somehow if they say we're saying goodbye to the muppets and everybody takes the many many drinks in which they're
getting hammered in the Honda Center and those are all on Josh Demarrow's head yeah that's food is a new ranger's yeah they're going right no yeah that would have been bad news yeah for sure did they is there a timetable on this did they say I don't think so but maybe I'm wrong
it's a whole thing cart because it's hardly laid it out with oh yes you had a hole with the dates and the food there I don't think so but I could be wrong so well I guess I only asked that construction begins 2025 oh they did say that okay 20 so well no soon I mean we'll know soon
mm-hmm because they'll start dismalishing those buildings behind animation courtyard if that case yeah yeah yeah um what else I feel like that's a lot of the the biggest animal kingdom oh yeah yeah that's that's the bigger we haven't hit yeah tropical mergers yeah so Indiana Jones no Harrison
no Harrison they got show round though yeah he's up there he's great so nice to see him that was on the ride yeah is he on the ride no I said I wish he was on the ride she was on the refund but yeah no Harrison thus a little loss from like that's right we're tracking it this
was the Harrison spot for this but like they they thought about it I was getting there was nervous the whole time I was oh you mean they like prepared it in case he did well I think the guest conductor joke mm-hmm and it turns around and it's him that could have been Harrison could have
Harrison yeah yeah but it was happy see key you think he's gonna you think he's gonna wave his arms around to the degree a conductor does you gotta put you gotta put $10,000 in his pocket and make it up it comic gun his arms were what going flailing wildly I guess that's true um maybe got
10 grand more it you might yeah yeah possibly just saying you got you better at that trader Joe's peanut butter pretzel nuggets have you're getting me to orange can you are you just say what you need to get to Orange County in a here's a little bit of wrestle nuggets and about that wolf
that wolf bottle of short nay trader Joe's that he brings to a Halloween party yeah he brings to me I think he could go nicer than the wolf for the stomping grape yeah hopefully I like the stomping grape uh but we're getting yeah Indiana Jones where dinosaurs being re-themed yes
confirmed this is another one I got right confirmed but no name yes I said name right I think I thought we were gonna name I think you stayed out of it oh good good thank god show uh I was thinking we might get a name though uh yeah no they kind of they well yeah well some names some
no names uh but this is starting soon too the construction is happening so it's interesting they didn't get in the year yeah they didn't give a name um the they aren't sure yet but the they're they're closing dino land in phases so that they're giving they're giving us all the
opportunity to say goodbye yes to dinosaur I don't think I'm gonna take them up on that opportunity I'm not gonna get screamed at by the uh-huh Alessorist one more time or what I'm scared of the ride apparently so yeah yeah I don't need to do it maybe it'll be while it'll be a calmer experience
for you maybe uh but this should be fun good I mean all of this is just like home run to me and then in Conto I mean that's just the in Conto house is something like that there's an iconic structure that absolutely has to be represented in the parks and then I feel like they boy they
just barely show you they show you enough of the ride vehicle to show you that it's the the people will be close together but other than that I don't know it feels like I'm a mover or I don't know I don't know it's not a big boxy checklist thing it it seems like more of a ride you
can send a lot of people through all at once which sounds great they need more stuff like that yeah but I don't know they don't really show you the ride vehicle on this this is one of those where I was like this is so close to actually being built give us another two minutes I don't don't give
us spoilers I guess big spoilers on the ride but I'm like you could give this room two more minutes sure of info I mean I guess they did it kind of they did say a lot it's uh you know it's it's it's the rain forest room they talked about restaurants they talked about the the carousel which
is like lovingly handcrafted yeah I don't know all sounds very it sounds good I just mean like because it's so close and I'm sure details are finalized the carousel looks very good it looks very cool but I did immediately think of a joke of oh thank god animal kingdom finally has a carousel
like because they opened it with such like this isn't the normal kind of feet bar oh and now the dino land was always like a final though it was pretty yeah kitchen oh it makes you know there's precedent is all I'm saying are we supposed is the theme park fan
lot party lines supposed to be that your sum up set that dino lands going away that I am or what I'm we are supposed to yeah what it one is what are we yes the general week there is a little ground swell I feel like for like dino land is good but I don't sense it's so strong mm-hmm I think it's a little half-hearted I certainly people a few years younger than us look on a very fun you grew up with it sure yeah but I don't sense it I don't sense it's gonna be like if they close
them up it's or something I don't think it's right I don't think that level but there's a little I've heard there's rumblings of like dino land is good um do you think they'll let me personally take a wrecking ball to ala dore will you drive the thing you'll drive the yeah yeah yeah it's all
learned about the whole mission all apply for a construction job just in time you put on a dead boot lalfa maybe we'll be able to get away with anything well that's true for life for being in life uh so yeah I don't know this all seems pretty good and yeah and a good like
as classy uh way to shove IP into animal kingdom as you're gonna get like it's like they're doing they're they're treating it with care they're not just they're shoving it with care they're shoving it in with care I saw a picture of Joe Rody taking a photo of the model this morning
if from animal kingdom what if it was for his uh shitting on oh it says burn both he's gonna take it and yeah print it out and burn a big poster of it when he gets home some sort of ritual that he learned somewhere in a different country uh yeah so so yeah no it all looks cool and it will fit
thematically with uh animal king the look of it I think will fit with some of the animal kingdom stuff yeah let's move back to uh California and California adventure adventure stuff a lot of Avengers stuff yes I will say the thing that popped me the hardest that was that didn't uh
live up to the popping that I was experiencing was when they said it would say it's a ruined pop I don't know if it was a ruined pop it was I was not pretty mature pop no no no not pretty mature it was the right time it happened at the right moment I'm perfectly I'm perfectly it was
just that I popped for what I thought was gonna be a bigger deal because they said fourth ride and Avengers campus oh get and I got excited and then it was like cool but it wasn't I wasn't I didn't think it was gonna be X-Men ride I disagree with you and well this is but here we're
gonna meet your friends situation I'm not friends with any of these people yeah yeah so I just look at the vehicle and I think the vehicle seems oh no I think it'll be fun it's really fun yeah it will be really fun I just wait what's what's the name of it what are we uh uh star star something
flight like flight lab flight lab which is your honor your honor kukka arm kind of thing uh so you're able to like swing around rotate a lot and it seems and you are testing the variety of like it's your you can fly seemingly in different ways yeah you pick like you're pulling the flight
patterns of different characters or suits depending on which vehicle you get on yeah I'm guessing like it'll be like yeah you fly like Iron Man you fly you like Spider-Man yeah I think they're gonna do like I'm trying to think who else kept the marvel who else flies war machine war machine
yeah it's gonna be similar nightmare though yeah I guess um it looks very similar to the uh some of all thrills some of all thrills yeah some of all thrills back yeah yeah yeah yeah interventions some of all thrills you would program a roller coaster and then ride it basically but it was
that one too okay I'm I get confused with some of all thrills it's on a big arm like it's on a kukka but it looks like yeah you strap it's like a strapped over but there's no car you're inside yeah can I ask is this stark thing in indoors around it's outdoors it is it looks to be outdoors but like
under like a big awning like basically they're gonna open up that wall that's right by the future avengers ride so like you'll walk down and on the left is where you'll enter for the new multiverse whatever ride but then it looks like infinity defense thank you and then the ride is like
right next to the the stark flight lab is right next to the e-ticket ride yeah it's and it looks to be kind of outside almost like there's like a like you'll it'll be open air essentially but you're like kind of under a covering or something of the actual e-ticket show building and they say this
will all like double the footprint of the avengers campus which yes they did say that I don't know if I'm into it I like it yeah sure I but it's a good I don't know if I I like a avengers campus as it is I think it's really gonna ruin the purity of the one thing in the restaurant I wanted
smaller he's yeah yeah downside actually yeah smaller cut guardians that rides a little showy for me uh-huh I mean the bar has a lot of variety and it's a pretty pleasant place to sit so for a second I was like no we're just finally like we got a land now and also just as I mean I was maybe I
know I consider California adventure my park in a way sure and uh just because I've like as we all did we've like gotten to be around it as it got good yeah yeah and as it got mad you know it was the place we went to get mad when we were young so young were we yeah and uh but I'm like
we got four right we got four right announcements this is this park is but does it does all this not if it's not already true to the four rides not get us to the point of that DCAs maybe in the top three theme parks in the country top to number one number one is it making number one I don't
know that I would say one but if if avat if avatari is slotted in there that is a massive upgrade if the marvel ride what is number one if not is it islands of adventure or one of those right now individual park yeah individual park I mean a lot of people still make will it be a
universe the question is the people will still claim and I don't know maybe I'm one of the Disneyland is still the best of all the parks just just park itself not resort I think after all this California adventure is better than Disneyland that's I could see that argument for an adult
I different for kids right right I could see that argument I mean yeah again avatar blows everyone away like it looks like it will that we did a just Disneyland do we did a just California adventure rather yeah with our then three year olds uh didn't go into Disneyland at all
is great kick ass day worked for him too yeah well that yeah there no I wouldn't argue with that I would have to think about I would have to if I was really going to debate against Disneyland sacrilegious and yeah I'm not a bad guy I think but I I get the Disneyland is the best arguments as far as this parks and Disneyland is so many rides in it in the end of the day there's like something there's something for everyone there but as far as like feeling like big cool new stuff
the California adventure is gonna we're really gonna be somewhere in five years brush your fingers yes yes but again do we get timeline on all this no that specifically or no Avengers no Avengers will uh start break ground in 2025 yeah okay so I had two or three years then probably for it and it
seems like they'll be building these at the same time because they're connected okay to each other so I'm guessing 2027 or 28 so then infinity defense yes Avengers infinity defense which looks which is funny because Scott Trollbridge Mr. Islands of Adventure Spider-Man right making a new
uh like screen ride with superheroes yeah which is funny but yes it's called uh infinity defense which is not my favorite title hmm it's fine I guess not my not so dynamic but okay it's I look at that and I'm like well that's the way Marvel things are named that sure is the way they name and Fendi
war is cool yeah secret wars is cool that is all cool yeah the defense is less fun but okay fine it doesn't have to bring us down but yeah they showed a little bit of that and yeah it's I mean we've kind of covered this in some ways like it's gonna be a mostly screen
ride I think there's some practical set elements yeah I don't know about robots uh but it's probably that Peter Pan system that they have in Tokyo Disney and I don't know I'm excited to do it yeah it's not I don't know that it's gonna be like a revolutionary new ride or anything but
that's not worried about that it'll feel a little bit like yep this is what rides have been yeah well and maybe that's if they're the overall of all the stuff we've got I don't know that there's anything that's going to like physically blow me away like Velocicoster or Guardians
sure Florida well it's also not really what Disney does true sure yeah but yeah that's that was the only thought I have but yes this one and I know I'm just mourning the loss of the much more ambitious ride they had planned that I don't even really know fully what it was but it looked a lot
more ambitious so I think I might have had elements of this flight impossible yes possible yeah that you were in little kukka arms or something that might have been the way they did it yeah but yeah I don't know I'm I'm excited to see what it looks like and my friends will be on the ride um and
there were I mean there were more exciting Marvel announcements in other countries I would say yeah overall yes those are those are what again there it is that um uh Hong Kong is getting what looks like a drop tower yes tower of terror spider man who
which looks awesome and looks like this art that we've talked about many times in the show that was going to be this Dubai Marvel Park and to me there was a piece of art that looked like it was a tower of terror with spider man and his web catching the big what a elevator or whatever big
box that the people were in yeah and I always that's haunted me for many many years now if you can find that um and now this they're doing it in a different way and they're doing it finally with like a spider man villain which has been a complaint of mine about the other spider man
ride that we've got and it's like where are the villains these got the almost fun villains but what's the villain in the doc oh okay doctor octopus attacking what looks to be like an elevator car and spider man catching you with his web and pulling you back up and dropping you down while he's
fighting with doc ock sounds really good it sounds great and it looks like I'm if I'm guessing how it works I'm guessing there's a screen in the top of the like tower based or the via party on top of your that's what I'm guessing yes you see doc outcars and you so so yeah so basically I'm
again this is just guess but uh guardians tower style you go up and you see different screens of action that's happening and maybe robot who knows you could have one doc ock robot or something but then yeah you have a screen above you or spider man keeps like catching you and jumping on
the top of the car fights with doc ock on the top in the front I'm guessing that's what it'll be and it sounds awesome if that's what it is that's that is much more exciting to me because like that's a legit thrill ride and they figured out a way to sort of have dynamic action happening happening
at the same time that's a good reframing of this type of ride they've done a few times with all of the but every iterations great yes then uh shanghai is a spidey coaster also really good art great yeah um I mean that I think that'll be really fun but I don't know how much like actual like
spider man you'll get because it goes outside and I see there's like they showed a piece of art that's got spider man above you and then I think you like take off or something but I think you might lose characters through that's what I'm guessing I'm sure it'll be cool and fun but it seems like that one will be less like full story you're watching the whole time yeah and it's hard to do that in a coaster as it is when I guess one big downside is that several weeks ago jakeese Neil essentially
confirmed that I will never go to shanghai does he he gave me I walked out of that episode like well cross-off list I'm a maybe some day but not that I'm going any time terrible if you some of it seemed unpleasant but if you pick up cigarettes you know you start smoking start smoking up 40
we can finally start smoking on rides though we've talked about this for years now and oh yeah I know we talk about it like only but yeah shanghai anywhere I guess um but yeah I was like oh shit this spider man coaster or tower of terror man I know a little bit cooler and I'd start
demanding that here except guardians is pretty great so yeah garbage great so so right I understand why they're not gonna make it but who may be they end up doing that over in the adventure world the Paris because that's close to marvel they got a they got a re-themed though and if it's like a new
I don't know how much new technologies on it so you might oh that's true yeah I don't know maybe too hard to do that I'm assuming it's it maybe it's not it's something they can overlay I mean I mean if I don't I don't know how that any of the technology works but if you could build a tower
of terror vehicle that is probably the same thing where it's suspended with the what cables or whatever but you could tilt the actual seats inside as well to that right so you could more comfortably look up and see what the screen is showing you yeah and I'm guessing you could do it where
there's like almost like two layers that makes the screen look a little more like real yeah this is just having it be like a LCD screen above your head yeah um but yeah if you could tilt it up as well to sort of see things I don't know if that's what they're doing but I don't know if there's
anything yeah they couldn't do uh easily in a re-themed that's a pretty big upgrade from hard uh metal benches yes oh yeah and again I don't know what they're doing it I was just trying to think of a way to comfortably make people be able to look up while they're dropping in the marvel neck
of the woods let's talk about Deadpool Deadpool yes we completely called this in general yeah that the that of Deadpool appearing on stage and boy we had no idea that it would just become Deadpool for a long time and let me say this we've snarked about Deadpool we've said Shimi
Changa derisively it's not really my deal I even rushed out to see this uh film all that said I enjoyed all of this it was good I thought it was funny I thought it was the best musical performance yeah this big performance of like a prayer which is apparently Deadpool's song now
but this conceit that he had made all of this concept art for rides that he wants to do and that he did like for this kind of thing cutting jokes like he joked about broken yeti he joked about several times about phantasmic dragon lighting on fire these were like there's a different type of
Disney company that does not like any sass about any of this stuff and I was pretty impressed I think I liked the comedic tenor and the aesthetics of this Deadpool appearance very much did you think a little joke about like Josh go backstage find yourself a new sweater well this is a debate what
the there's here's let's go to where from the second gate episode uh but we all agreed the Deadpool would appear so that's the base um so that was a good about something my bet was uh well here let me say it's better to go in this order uh Jason's bet was that he would roast the
underwhelming nature of previous d23s Mike's bet was that he would joke about the attractiveness of Josh tomorrow I said he would appear but he would not make any of these jokes now I was getting ready to say that I was correct on this Jason unfortunately was incorrect uh Mike this
we I think you and I have to sign off on this and turn the keys Jason I think that referring to why don't you go find yourself another tight knit sweater though it's about the clothes and not the physical appearance I am willing to say that this is a joke about Josh tomorrow's uh being daddy
I will give it to Mike okay thank you also called him a dime store something and I forget what it was dime store igger I don't know I forget what it was but there and then he did make it come in about stamos being attractive too oh right um but I feel like all that adds up to I was right yeah no
you're right so that all right that's a win for you so yeah good job and you know what it was later in the segment too he actually came back and that was a later thing he did so I put that as a I put that as a win for me but we're putting it in the column for you so congratulations I
love that we're all right about that pool yeah yeah that's really I think I saw some reaction of like geez they really had we had no idea how much it would be Deadpool at down to where let me say I think if they did a ride with this tenor I think it'd be good I think yeah imagine
something that Deadpool has set up that is like a parody of rides yeah something that with if we lose the Simpsons ride there won't really be that anywhere right so if Deadpool has set up some sort of thing to shit on Disney and rides and theme park tropes in general but then and maybe the
ride itself is cruddy and like does bad impressions of the kind of moves that we know ride can do but then there is a sincere threat halfway through and the you know he has to commit more fully and save us from something but does that not seem like if I would not complain about a ride that's
all set up all shitty it kind of makes good on the promise of remember that there's that idea of like a a muck at ride oh yeah that's or I mean I'm not complaining the movie in the yeah there was a movie where the budget got slashed that she was a muck movie or made but so like I don't know
that is a ride premise I think it could be kind of cool yeah well a couple weeks ago I said Deadpool ride after this thing makes a billion dollars and it just crossed a billion dollars and the story time is a big hit big hit in the park making body jokes I'll say this wait to see it I think
most characters at this point in time are technically Avengers in the Marvel Universe at some point or another oh he's in the Avengers movies no put well obviously I'm saying put Deadpool in the Avengers ride oh I think he will pop up yeah cuz he is latest movie I haven't seen it either but
there's a multivirt verse element the rides a multi-first story yeah get him in there but yes I didn't jackman yes I I hopefully they will do something like this because Deadpool being in the parks and this is it's embarrassing to say something where you're like Deadpool gives an energy to
the parks that is good and light into the panel I did to the panel and Deadpool the guy whoever they have playing are probably multiple people but whoever they have playing Deadpool is doing a good job I have on this show said that I prefer a certain characterization of Deadpool versus the Reynolds characterization but you got to give Ryan some credit for making it work and making Deadpool like the book's bunny of the modern era which is what Deadpool is yeah um and it's certainly a type of like
as not a marvel person it does I just from the outside a lot of parts of it just seem like a piss could be taken out of it right sure that's what he's doing then neat well that's that that's I mean it's it speaks more to how like uptight the Disney company is the more than oh crazy Deadpool is
I think but Deadpool watching these story times with Deadpool or I'm just like oh wow he went there I'm like a look like an older like oh my goodness what is he saying and like this is how watching your girl yeah yeah but I go well I maybe I like this maybe I like a little bit of a
body or entertainment in Disney my god I thought I I thought I was offended but here I am and I think that I'm popping right I'm popping I'm popping hard is what I said uh but yeah I know you're right and uh I don't everything seems like it takes forever a Disney and like because all
these ideas finally 20 years later they're getting built so maybe in 20 years I'll do Deadpool but ah there's so much stuff there's so much Marvel stuff that would make incredible rides and this is absolutely one of them and it's got the money to out to back it up what if you did a ride that
what I was saying about it he set it up all shitty what if it felt like a at the beginning like a janky carnival like an awful haunted house yeah like like a you know the kind of the just like skeletons popping out like and where it's it does feel like rusty dangerous barely dressed at times
and then it opens up and turns into and you think that the vehicle can't actually do anything awesome yeah yeah yeah yeah I'll give Ryan Reynolds credit for this too he was saying that he pitched an idea for the movie that was just an indie budget road trip Deadpool movie with no fighting
something about this and I'm like this idea that'd be great like yeah with I forget the character's name who's like the cab driver or whatever from the first two movies and I'm like yeah why don't they do that like I've argued for this for years now but it's just like the house style it seems very
oppressive that's what I mean it's like yeah like I don't know do a movie were like the costs five million dollars that's a talky movie yeah and that looks different but yeah I that's a great idea I I said we should all blue sky our own Deadpool rides and maybe we do that soon oh okay yeah
yeah there's a lot of Deadpool buzz after his but stunning appearance it's really blew the crowd away yeah but yeah he's he made a joke about Logan's run there was there was some there was a Wolverine thing because Wolverine's name is Logan but then that that that results in a Logan's run reference
while you're after my heart did I think it was when it's not run dancing uh run Disney oh right oh that was the that was the yeah all right that's his in action running experience okay okay uh um wall robot I feel like I'm speed-rounding oh yeah wall robot we did another one mic was right about
wall robot and this was wall robot yeah and this one I will say this I by betting the way I bet this year was was I was trying not to just go with the conservative this was the closest to a conservative bet I made hmm I was trying to not just go okay this is what the you got in strong
tubers but yeah so so this was the most sure thing bet I made yeah because it just seemed like well what else is going in there everyone is saying it's some sort of Walt show and yes they confirmed it Walt Disney in his office you will get to see a little show that he does
will there be a Meghan Trainor feed the birds audio track playing during it I don't know hopefully the original will be playing that was yeah so yeah we got because they tired you know they get into emotion when Walt comes up and they get into Sherman brothers and that he just the
kind of imagine just sitting in his office and hearing a song that was then you get the full performance of feed the birds he did all the trainer yeah yeah which I what I don't like about as of noted Meghan Trainor fan yeah I feel like they kind of zapped the personality out of her and
made her just do it all right all right serious and that's not what Meghan's about and I feel like they should have done they should have let her go Megan with it you know do it like a bubblegum pop song from 1960 with really tinny drums you know it why was it not more like a feda bus
a tap and stuff that you got to feed a buzz got a got to feed a buzz a la la the Megan me yeah I got high jack the show again yeah feed the birds but is she serving the birds you know what I'm saying haha she serving the birds up and so bag but is it a Gucci bag is our good from a Gucci
girl a bag la la la oh man you should have been I mean I wouldn't come true but you should have been I didn't I bet I'm Megan trainer that's a sure I swear that's another thought I had I go when is Megan trainer show I guess it was not when we ruined the betting but when the thing started and
I saw how many musical performances there was I was like Megan trainer's got to be coming yeah he's got to be here well and then we got the kind of a tenuous connection of all for one is here to announce oh well new cruise ships yeah all right yeah bunch of cruise ships stuff uh in that
yeah like in their name but they don't explain that you just get a full performance of icewear and the unexplained and then they say but why are their names very appropriate for this because we're we're opening one two three four four new ships but the ships are not going to be all four
one no there there's not going to be one price that gets you access to all four of the ships so if anything I'd say their name is absolutely inappropriate this was one of those confusing things I'm never mad when I see all for one by the way not their problem with that no but I was
like whoa this was this was like tenuous at best this connection yeah yeah um and I and I actually I feel like they're you know there's more cruise ships stuff to talk about before we do it I just like to do a brief performance of the entire song I love you always forever by Donna Lewis is that
okay I love you always forever new it's as you know because I will love going on ships always forever on that ship front here's a bet I started to stop watch on this but this one of the bets was how many minutes this is my proposal was how many minutes they will do on cruise yeah
Mike's bet was five I was eight Jason went with 12 but I did say price is right rules closest yeah going over and actually either way even without that because it nudged up to 10 minutes and I'd say 15 seconds thus getting it and now but my cat my cat appointed debate well right and my
question was do the musical performances then count in our bet because we said how much talk I do think we said talk specifically how much cruise ship talk would there be talk so obviously that all for one thing was part of the cruise ship announcement but it was not talk it was sing we didn't
say how much cruise ship sing will there be I there's there was so much music I think it would be impossible to I also take days to figure out how much talk if this is also the template this whole show is a template going forward for these I think all of our bets will be different now because
as soon as a show like the show felt different immediately from years past and I was like I would bet differently on a few things maybe as soon as the cruise ship segment started I went I should have said 10 you got to grade with 12 but then I don't know I actually I felt the opposite as soon as it
started I tweeted smart money's on Jason here the way these have been paced I think they say ships and they finish talking about ships and if they fill that with two entire songs then they do I'm I'm giving it to Jason all right you can have it I just I was upset with oh I'm thinking
after this yeah I was like oh this music padded out because really they didn't talk that much about ships I think there was a world where we were thinking they would you were thinking they would talk I think it's you right yes I was technically more correct because they did they oftentimes go on
and I'm about these ships I feel like of these things and this was a quick one by the way we're tripling the fleet or doubling the fleet whatever it is for or yeah I don't know and it's just like we're continuing we're gonna we're gonna have about 10 million people at sea every moment of
every day for the rest of our life not to suddenly bring up environmental concerns but I've seen a lot of cruise ship companies go like we're building more ships and I was like oh do we need do we need that do we need that many ships in the ocean not five any thoughts about what that does
it's probably yeah yeah so prices right rules wouldn't that be you one that bad no closes without going over I get that's right but what did Jason say it was I said 12 oh but we all win over then oh wait you said it was like 10 and change it does it I thought it meant that it doesn't go
oh you could go over the fit oh god what is the price sorry let's sorry sorry so if you bet so somebody says a dollar on prices right then the next person says 99 cents anything under 99 cents wins basically right isn't that how it works because you undercut the person oh so why
don't I know this before I say it well welcome to podcast if I think at eight you are not going over it it's 10 and change but I went over with 12 oh okay so I'm being honest here oh yeah if if the if the calculation for music and talking was 10 15 then Scott win okay Jason went over
yeah oh all right yeah thank you catch I was I mean I think I understand the rules and I even catch that we were talking about it oh okay geez this will be driving prices rate contest here and my wife crazy I still got a I still technically one but you win you go you went over wow
wow I thought yeah I thought I went over anyway sorry boring okay what I mean what do we think about this wall show though the wall show here's what here we make a lot of fun of Walt there's a lot of bad things about Walt will I like cry during the show I've maybe I feel like they're gonna like get
you they're gonna get you on some like kid level of like I'll be with my parents or something in my daughter and then it'll be like they'll play the original feed the bird or something like I feel like it's gonna be good is what I'm saying I feel like they're gonna get you and all the jokes
over the years of all it's the wall show I read I think it was in the LA times and top Martins article that it's maybe it was theme park insider attractions but I've read so many roundups I've lost track that it will have an initial run yes and after that it's gonna play in conjunction with Lincoln
right so it's not I think what people were thinking before was oh the wall tool introduced Lincoln but that's I don't think what it is it's gonna be just a full wall show it'll run through the 70th and then they'll alternate the wall show and Lincoln during the day going forward and I think it's
so funny that with any Lincoln chain and they've done this before it's always like they want to do something else in there like it keeps being like well do think about think about who thought of this Lincoln show is well it's well so if we put a wall thing in there that basically is a Lincoln
thing well basically is Abraham Lincoln so you don't get to be mad to you actually you should be very happy to I feel like those meetings boil down to someone going fine you take a sledgehammer to Abraham Lincoln then this is like a sneaky way to get a different show in there though in the
way where you're like did it nobody can you argue with Walt you can't argue with Walt he's in there and then like because I think it's a rotating stage now where you just rotate the show okay you do the Lincoln show you do the wall show uh so yeah I guess you could like in the middle
of the night in like 2028 you just somebody like goes in there and just removes Lincoln and it's like and then you don't have to worry about the empty seats in the Lincoln theater uh now do we think it's Walt at a desk like talking to you about his ideas or is there any chance that it's uh uh
him needing a little bit of extra nursing of that polo injury uh I also builds a robot of his uh nurse or helper or whatever uh yes I had the same thought will we see the office that Walt would go into with his nurse to get his polo injury worked on yeah which we determined had to
be some sex thing so was it going to be possibly uh yeah it a weird set whatever it was it was weird I believe like she would put a glove on and like just stimulate him over his pant like something was odd about it I was very odd like I see how to love I just he's on my head I don't know if
there's a glove that's what I'm saying I think there's some some version of it we're not even imagining that made whatever the sexual encounter was that he would have yeah odd but it was no doubt odd that's what I believe yeah well then then the question is will it be like real audio of him
and like well never forget it all started with the my order is it a lot is it mostly like oh oh right there right there actually actually a different part needs to be so shing at the moment maybe it's not on my back right now we what is this woman's name we've
talked about it I know I know I remember it look her up somebody look her up I think it'll be like carousel progress where they can like light that area of the room I was sure and then you could see through his office and the nurses in there like waiting for him all right Google Walt Scotch
missed glove lady Walt Scotch missed glove lady massage but sex I'm not it's not coming together no they're drink easy on the other you're a New York nurse Hazel George that's right that's right done an episode who get it would then like spend a lot of time with Michael Jackson yes yes well that's
a second get episode if you haven't heard go back and listen to is that's fascinating yeah yeah Michael sought out Walt's nurse Hazel George and asked her a bunch of questions about Walt like did Walt I think any like did Walt swear yes you're also a glove enthusiast can I bring up Michael real
quick the night before the panel with all the movies where they just like everything was a sequel and stuff it felt to me in a similar way when Michael Jackson announced those like 50 concerts and both like in England and here where you're like oh they need money they're looking for money here
yeah yeah yeah like there was a similar feeling I had where it was like oh they they need the money okay got the famous announced tour Michael Jackson's this will happen now right I remember staring at that schedule going oh whoa no no oh Michael needs money and oh I don't think this is going to
happen and it did not happen for one very apparently the real name this is it which proved uh eerily correct yes they just made it meant the press conference not the right to the shows when Michael Jackson died did any police detective go like your woman was involved with Walt Disney and
Michael did was she a person of interest is what did Hazel George give him the purple fall oh she gives him like I just saying they both pass not too long after Jason's a Michael Jackson truth are in the sense that he thinks that Hazel George gave him the purple not Dr. Conrad Murray wow I've never heard this before this is a new one okay look there's been a lot of bit smirching of my godfather Dr. Conrad well I'd say and then you go like well we did a forensic search which led us
to discover that Hazel George died in 1996 but other than that I don't see why mr. Sheridan's theory couldn't be partially true I would like I would like to see him do with Jesse Ventura style conspiracy theory show where he talks about so I'm gonna find the culprit in the block black doll yoke he's
thinking of find the zodiac killer a nurse or so she says what does that even mean really so what have we missed I mean I don't think we have to name check everything in any particular but are we missing a big area before we kind of like wrap up yeah I mean there's no before we end with
the big thing is this there's no tomorrow no tomorrow in announcement I was I I will tell you my confidence level of tomorrow and announcement happening during the whole whole ceremony or whatever it's called show was high really it was high because in a kept getting higher and higher and higher
they they teased tomorrow land they played some space mount early on obviously they played other things too but there was a like tomorrow land they did a little space mountain and then as it's going on I go okay they did it have it our first that's Disneyland a California venture but okay
then they do wall to the middle and we're going along and I'm like they haven't announced one big Disneyland thing yet I mean for Disneyland nothing for Disneyland other than Walt robot that is crazy right which is crazy so we're going along and I'm like they're saving it for the end what else could
they end I'm like I was so sure that we were getting it at the end because I was like they have to do one big thing for Disneyland it would be wild not to do one big announcement for Disneyland as far as a new rider and overlay or something they went wild and they went wild they ended with you know
a thing that was obviously very exciting to see for an American park but this is my confidence was high during the ceremony as opposed to here's here's our audience a poll right before the show what do you think we get tonight tomorrow land plus people we were tomorrow I know people mover neither one neither one seventy percent well that's always the easy bet when you're talking to Disney and just a thing like this so
I understand why they say that's where our audience sits what they what they felt though they were also wrong then on on the nothing yet for behind big thunder where we do some stuff obviously but yeah tomorrow and after it's also funny that just because we've had this tomorrow land plan for a while and we're going to like parse we're going to step through these big things about tomorrow land and talk about the decay and new tomorrow land and rocket rods and then culminate in the fixing tomorrow
land episode that just came out and Mike started putting the heat on us about that like we got to do that fixing my we scutches we got to do that fixing because it's coming up and we're going to get it we're getting it this year so make sure that we do it and we got to do it we got nothing we got
nothing a prominent a prominent source that was correct about other things said that this was happening and it did not happen so yes that source was wrong I don't know there were there was a lot of talk about a lot of stuff came out of this as well like pull was pulled out not obviously
they were going to pull tomorrow into big thing if it was really ready to go and they were going to put shovels in the ground immediately but I'm sure they're working on something but will it ever happen I don't know I'm still holding out hope there's a destination D next year the D 23 and two
years I think we get it before it isn't there for it I still believe that and I still think I'm still holding out hope even though it did not happen here and I'm glad we did the episode because also there's a chance that Friday morning they were ready to go with big tomorrow land plans
somebody threw their phone on the desk with an Apple podcast app open and they said listen to this and they heard our pitches for tomorrow land and they said this is so much better than what we have planned we got to scrap the whole thing we got to go or they or they heard they're on to us about the
sod or stole it from them well they don't want a sodgate on our hands possible that well maybe they didn't even think about sod maybe they said you know what we should put new sod in this we don't have put this into the actual presentation people are going to riot and they pulled it out and they
decided to go with villains land is the end the little one was kind of prickly about the Ant man ride we need to remove it right or that could be yeah last minute so we had to do adjusting case we through a grenade into their entire I appreciate your optimism in this area but since I've been
it like since I first came to L.I. for school in 2006 they have been talking people have been talking about like they got to do something with tomorrow land oh there's something coming for in Marley and it's just do we want to go double or nothing for another tomorrow land bet sure
okay I would love to get that easy easy money money okay I would love to take the easy money from you okay Jason Sam double or not I also by the way think that we should keep bets going yeah a friend of the show Van Robeshow was proposing a bet I think if you're if any guest who comes
on the show we're open for business on the bets I think this is a part of the show now it is a part of the show now and I'm trying to determine what my bet is I first of all would you let's let's just take a temperature here do you think we will get a tomorrow land before some sort of Disneyland
forward stuff starts being built no no you think like people will retract is there forever or at least I don't think because I think all that's all except here's here's this is a big this hasn't been said and I think this is the real reason why tomorrow ends didn't happen in addition to what
would be cool for the parks there's also a broader Disney company need to service the buckets of what are the big IP and areas and things that we own and you do have to think about these presentations as that we got to service a lot of marvel we got to service a lot of star wars which is where I
realized was maybe the food the the national say foolishness in your thinking you weren't so far up you know you're right but the but in galaxies edge like the reason to say galaxies edge is because we these is also for shareholders and we got to sure everybody we're doing stuff with star wars
all time to some extent right so they're gonna say something I think tomorrow land is not something that anybody's got eyes on there's no like masters to serve there yeah so that's what and and and avatar is clearly one of those two yeah I think they have to show activity in these IP buckets
and tomorrow land is not attached enough to one of those yeah other than that tron is maybe part of it and that's that's sort of it if the tomorrow in movie had hit well that's a big big tomorrow land would have been fixed by now yeah I think incredible three now I think I'm
not saying it's gonna be a crazy over I think they will I think the people over track will be gone by the time Disneyland forward starts whatever it is I boy but I guess that's that's gonna be hard because we have to parse what that means if Disneyland forward is avatar Mike do you want to bet that
there is an actual bunny who delivers eggs to your backyard yeah he comes every time this one yeah that's a different argument I think we will get a tomorrow lands announced one of some kind in the next two years no that's what I bet no okay Jason how do you feel are you including the next D 23 yes
give me destination D it could be during the 70th anniversary of Disneyland it could be the next D 23 I believe there will be a tomorrow and in and I don't feel big enough I feel like next D 23 maybe let him make a bet about destiny let him think destination D's anything they say things
that just need yeah what they say last year they had they were that they were thinking about things oh yeah yeah but it's a whole new company now Jason what do you think it was two years ago and the mad the mad tea party settlers are way different and when I say
announce announcement about tomorrow land it means they could just be pulling the people move or track out and re-thieving Buzz Lightyear and painting everything yeah it could be that it's not like an amazing sort of I think because of serving the IP I look here's the thing I
think they're gonna get really excited about all the new stuff they've announced and then I think they're gonna get really excited about the Disneyland Forward expansion by the hotels and I think with tomorrow land they're gonna go that is Space Mountain and Star Tours and that's good
enough yeah so you're with Scott there will not be an announcement you don't believe us in a amount I wanted this enough time I want to be wrong this let this one was 10 you were gonna get five if it was at the end you guys are making you you were actually making it even more extreme
because I'm saying I think it would be an announcement in the next two years and you're saying they're not gonna pull that people over track out in the next 10 years what was the last 10 years before yeah how is this so insane no I'm just I'm just trying to get on the same page here I grew
up here these are my streets I've watched them decay I live through every bit of it each year it got worse and worse you want to tell me about my land problem I mean I guess if Tron Aries is a hit which I don't know if that's possible it's cool nine inch nails is doing it but
I don't know the other ones have been well the charisma of Jared Lado can fill any number of computer main phrase I've seen people say a fantastic four is a hit well now there we go oh aesthetically speaking that's perfect because it's like a it's an elseworlds 60s aesthetic
in fantastic four maybe that could do it yeah that's interesting if you turn tomorrow land into a world fair if you turn into the first 90 seconds of the tomorrow land movie you know sure I still okay my bet is two and two year within two years there will be a tomorrow in an
announcement of some new version so the two years include the next D23 yes okay all right that seems like I yeah what's the number what did we bet last time 10 10 well double or nothing you put any and you put five it was gonna be an extra five if there was people who were there all
right well double it both double in both 20 and 10 that's right okay uh nothing and then I'll double or thing again in two years I'll say well two more years that's what it'll be and we'll keep the battle keep going yeah yeah and just and what and it's hard to count with interest
rates by then and the value of the dollar what that 20 or 10 will mean by then right so that'll be a whole other world uh anything else like news wise to cover should I get into the the bedding stuff and where we landed well wait okay well here okay we'll say so the big and out because it
was seeming kind of done they actually did get me and then it was not done there was a scary music queue and then the the face in the mirror uh admonished Josh tomorrow for withholding something and we got a big final announcement of what there is no name for it but we're just for now calling
it villains land yeah going in magic kingdom so let's talk about it first and then we'll talk about what it means for us yeah it is great great concept art this is another one of those rumored forever exciting way to present it we got a little bit of specifics we got uh two attractions
restaurants shops yeah basically just one piece of concept are that kind of implies a coaster but we don't really know what villains we're dealing with the left is in coaster in the art because the dragon's sort of buy it all right so that's what people in like it's like thorny and
uh that's what people assume I don't know that to be a fact but yes so that looks like if if that art is accurate like an outdoor coaster it's kind of this I don't know what the actual other ride is um but it's it is sort of like epic universes monsters layer yet it's got a coaster and
it's got some other looks a lot like epic universe very similar to epic universes yeah um yeah I don't I mean it's great it was all the way it was all the way to close it the concern maybe is no timeline five years yeah keep dreaming you want to put money on that five years we're not
gonna get that money for five years but well I don't need I don't care about that uh I don't need to do that this at least six years with the the face in the mirror this was the most professional rassling thing of the night where it's like well that's the end of the show thanks for coming and
then he pops up and that was very fun yeah but I think you know so look there's not much to say about it it's cool concept art and it sounds great and I'm I think it'll be really fantastic uh but let's talk about the ramifications for us because um well actually okay actually a couple
things uh uh one it right before we get to that let's get to our our bets one of the bets was Disney words set out loud recurring Disney words yeah Mike went with imagination I went with magic Jason went with dream now this tally get got a little wonky for me I tried to keep track
but this is a long long panel however there was an early lead taken early in the panel this was a big one I threw this out and said it's for twenty dollars why not make this like the big bonus and uh here's my calculation on this um I think there was an insurmountable lead gained very very
early on by dream which is Jason's word uh my count is eleven uh if you if I missed part of this if I left if I went to the bathroom during if Shibu if I missed Shibuzy doing a rapid fire imagination imagination imagination many many times uh then I did but I think count is eleven dream
magic for I'm not sure I heard I don't even once in the panel which but speaking of that means no journey into imagination yeah the horizons name didn't really lead to anything nothing except for the spaceship earth lounge the former semen's lounge to know everybody can go to this lounge
sounds good and pirates lounge at magic bottom uh but yeah no upcott nothing no uh upcott will build the K yeah yeah yeah which is that's what I'm telling you Mike the Disney is okay with decay and I don't just mean in the villainous villains world two years okay Marley all right uh uh anyway uh
then I had another question because we got really thrown by that or the first number of the show is John Stan was performing a dream is a wish your heart makes they made me wish I'd bet on wish but then I had a question does music count I asked the audience does music count they said yes it
was a close margin but they said yes if we're counting music imagination still zero magic six dream twenty one becomes a crush by Jason but even if you take music out of it it's still Jason uh so congratulations to Jason on the big bed of the night twenty dollars go into your pocket on that one
now if we're talking purely financially if if we were to take that one oh and also by the way if story if anybody grabbed story yeah they would have ran away that would have so much that we're all against to not tell story uh so let me say what happens if that uh that one's out is uh okay if
not for that final bet then I'm up twenty two dollars and fifty cents this is the high sticks that we're dealing with here yeah uh Jason is down nine and Mike is down thirteen fifty with the final bet this brings us to oh wait a minute and you actually this is kind of crazy with the
little nudging that has happened during this episode and evaluate and I'll let you guys check the math on this but just what I'm seeing at this point in time uh Jason up eleven dollars me up twelve dollars fifty cents Mike down twenty three dollars and fifty cents yeah
yeah Mike down a lot I think the key it was those tens you lost a lot of tens I know now when I came when I sat down with you guys before I made some changes Jason was up and I was exactly even I was at literally zero dollars thanks to some changes I have one financially however however
and this is how it was starting to feel until the big reveal oh my god they aren't done oh my god villains land magic kingdom oh my god Jason gets a double scoop of bascon robins flavors of his choice and due to them saying location yeah maybe they didn't clarify behind
big Thunder I said location I didn't say there magic kingdom equals Jason also gets sprinkles wow and therefore because I only beat you in terms of numbers by a dollar fifty once you have calculated the split price between Mike and I of a double scoop at bascon robins Jason is the winner of the
2024 D23 Wow wow congratulations and not to mention I think even if the numbers didn't add up the joy that came from the ice cream would surmount any financial uh right loss so it's Jason no matter what uh Jason congratulations Mike thank you so much when the first ever round of
PTR betting I mean I mean you I don't want to get into the weeds here but were you talking about those salt and straw prices Scott are we talking more reasonable prices like a dryer uh oh god we didn't get into a salsa maybe if it had been an ample hills it would have
been a different situation oh man rest in peace rest in peace uh but thankfully you chose uh reasonably priced and I'm glad and it was something we can go to very soon do we want to go right now I want to go to bed right you want to go to bed right now we will take a rain check on
the okay well you're right it has been a long episode so we will not we will you will have to wait for photos of Jason and the ice cream and the grin on his face from the ice cream will you wait as long as we will wait for tomorrow land news hopefully not Jason hold us to it this is not
blue sky we're putting shovels as I call spoons into cream into dirt which is a dirt by that I mean uh the dirt that's ground up Oreo rocky we're putting little shovels into dirt and putting it is one of the scoops oh yeah well let's go with blue sky here do you want to do you want to
make your choices cup or cone flavors and type of sprinkle do you want to go with cone right uh uh probably sugar cone the chewy one okay more expensive the chewy one sugar cone or cake cone are usually the default codes okay so we're saying that's a cheaper one yeah yeah okay
all right my apologies um wild food cone is usually a little too overwhelming for me okay all right well you got to know yourself and what flavors are we thinking I don't know the second one yet okay oh wow think about going a wild card like p-counting pray lean okay whenever you say that
you're you're dreaming up some you're starting to think about the kinds of flavors yeah I don't have shovels in the dirt yet so okay sprinkles just rainbow maybe chuglay jimmies oh right I forgot it was Jason we're dealing with and it could be chocolate jimmies just don't say that
to the California teens at the bascon robins they will not know what you're talking well I've got some stories for that you know on the other side of the country there's a you know about one hundred years ago well we will make good on this the only dark side to this
great ice cream news is this is gonna be it this is gonna help his problem is he's got a problem with the penny slots and this is only gonna encourage further oh yeah a real problem for gambling Joe over here oh well let's take you to the casino after this oh after the nap after the nap
oh yeah you can nap in the car as we go to put you down put the seat down and you'll nap in the cars we go to put you know good all right this luck all the way to to make you look all right but for now I guess we'll wrap it up boy supersized episode boy hey we
still shorter than the panel but we do the three of us love to talk about this shit even on a set Sunday when we're rushing it out here we are could have done more too all right yeah I know it became a lot and there will be way now it'll we'll we'll start picking
a part to parts of the and you know what we will you know what we'll have to do what it'll motivate is like as they start saying attractions that are closing we will have to start seeing a guy to those and in fact if we missed anything in dino land or do we do all of dino land I don't
remember I don't I don't believe we have yeah forget how we broke that up if it was Chester and Hester all I don't do we do Chester and we just do the roller coaster boy oh we did primeval world yeah we haven't done we haven't done just done just done all right well the that
list will grow but for now I mean a man boy that's a blue blue sky with Chester and Hester yeah as a ptr listener but for now you survived podcast the ride jammed out a episode sort of hey this is this week's main feed so we won't be back here on friday but for three bonus episodes every
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