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Plodding Through The Presidents

Howard & Jessica Dorrewww.ploddingthroughthepresidents.com
Join history blogger Howard Dorre and his wife Jessica Dorre for a deep irreverent dive into lesser-known stories of the early American presidents. They dig into the myths, mysteries, scandals, and drama of the founders and their families, with a dash of marital banter.
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Dirty Rotten Scoundrels with David Head & Timothy Hemmis

The Burr Conspiracy and the most notorious early American scoundrels are the focus of our chat with historians David Head and Timothy Hemmis, co-editors of the new book “A Republic of Scoundrels: The Schemers, Intriguers and Adventurers Who Created a New American Nation.” But first, we look at an anonymous letter sent to John Adams in 1798 warning him that the most dangerous scoundrel in the nation was right under his nose. Find out more at plodpod.com Consider joining our Patreon family at http...

Jun 04, 202439 minSeason 5Ep. 9

Presidential Grave Hunter with Kurt Deion

We dig into the story of Attorney General and one-time presidential candidate William Wirt's missing skull, followed by a conversation with historian and author Kurt Deion whose unique journey is chronicled in the book "Presidential Grave Hunter: One Kid's Quest to Visit the Tombs of Every President and Vice President." Find out more at plodpod.com. Learn more about Kurt Deion at presidentialgravehunter.com and kurtshistoricsites.com Consider joining our Patreon family at https://www.patreon.com...

May 21, 202450 minSeason 5Ep. 8

The Undeniable Rizz of Aaron Burr

We dig into the powerful, hypnotic charisma—the rizz—of Vice President Aaron Burr, specifically two events in March 1805 that showed his mesmerizing effect on those around him. Find out more at plodpod.com. Consider joining our Patreon family at https://www.patreon.com/ploddingthroughthepresidents Check out our merch store! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/plodding-through-the-presidents?ref_id=24294 Special thanks to Gwen Fries, author of The Beehive blog post Sympathy for the Devil: John Quinc...

May 07, 202444 minSeason 5Ep. 7

Adapting Franklin & John Adams with Kirk Ellis

We welcome Emmy and Peabody award winning screenwriter and producer Kirk Ellis to the show to talk about his work adapting Apple's new series Franklin as well as HBO's John Adams series. We dig into the rich characters and settings of Franklin, what Michael Douglas brings to the role of Benjamin Franklin, and what it was like adapting David McCullough’s book John Adams and Stacy Schiff’s book A Great Improvisation—including the scenes Ellis and the authors disagreed about. Find out more at plodp...

Apr 23, 20241 hrSeason 5Ep. 6

Mount Vernon's Stone of Secrets

We dig into the centuries-old mystery of a cornerstone in Mount Vernon’s cellar that inspired a pivotal prop in the film National Treasure: Book of Secrets. Then we hunt for the truth behind that prop’s role in a battle between Hollywood and historical accuracy. Along the way we explore The War of Jenkins’ Ear, what the War of 1812 smelled like, and what happened when air conditioning came to Mount Vernon. Find out more at plodpod.com. Consider joining our Patreon family at https://www.patreon.c...

Apr 09, 202443 minSeason 5Ep. 5

Joe versus Mount Vernon

This is the story of one man with big dreams who wanted to turn George Washington's Mount Vernon into a stop on his massive proposed theme park—a Disneyland on the Potomac named "The Spirit of America." In the 1960s and 70s, Joseph I. Goldstein was called the greatest threat to Mount Vernon since the British navy, and we dig into his wild plot and how the Mount Vernon Ladies Association, his neighbors, the government, and all the elements of nature joined forces to stop him. Find out more at plo...

Mar 26, 202442 minSeason 5Ep. 4

Saving Mount Vernon and Everything the Light Touches

We explore two women responsible for preserving George Washington’s Mount Vernon: the "Southern Matron" Ann Pamela Cunningham, who dedicated her life to saving the mansion from ruin in the 1850s, and the eccentric Congressperson Frances Payne Bolton who used her wealth and power to save Mount Vernon's pristine view from becoming an industrial wasteland in the 1950s. It's a story of perseverance, partnership, and different kinds of power—economic, political, and even psychic. Visit plodpod.com fo...

Mar 12, 202443 minSeason 5Ep. 3

Party Time with H. W. Brands

We welcome historian and author H. W. Brands to the show to talk about the subjects of his new book, Founding Partisans: Hamilton, Madison, Jefferson, Adams and the Brawling Birth of American Politics. Topics include why everybody hated Hamilton, James Madison's political metamorphosis, and the founders' fear of election-stealing demagogues. Show notes and sources at plodpod.com Enter to win a copy of "Founding Partisans" at https://basicfront.easypromosapp.com/p/971239 You can subscribe to H. W...

Feb 27, 202452 minSeason 5Ep. 2

The John Adams Diet

We bring you The John Adams Diet, a revolutionary new lifestyle based on the documented personal habits and diet of America's second president. From chocolate for breakfast to hard cider and long walks, the John Adams Diet can unlock the big sassy founder within you. (Results not typical or likely.) Visit JohnAdamsDiet.com for more details. Consider joining our Patreon family at https://www.patreon.com/ploddingthroughthepresidents Check out our merch store! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/plodd...

Feb 13, 202439 minSeason 5Ep. 1

Season 5 Trailer

Plodding Through The Presidents returns Tuesday, February 13th as an ongoing biweekly podcast! Visit our website at www.plodpod.com Check out our merch store at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/plodding-through-the-presidents?ref_id=24294 Join our Patreon community at https://www.patreon.com/ploddingthroughthepresidents Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 06, 20241 min

Friendsgiving Spectacular 2023

In a special bonus episode, Howard joins Kenny Ryan from [Abridged] Presidential Histories, Jerry Landry from The Presidencies of the United States, and Alycia from Civics & Coffee for a fascinating Friendsgiving conversation about their podcasts and shared passion for history. We'll be back soon! Find more info and sign up for our mailing list at plodpod.com Consider joining our Patreon family at https://www.patreon.com/ploddingthroughthepresidents for bonus content and fun perks! Check out...

Nov 20, 202359 minSeason 4Ep. 16

The Shipwrecked Ring of John C. Calhoun

This episode's deep dive takes us to the bottom of the Pacific where a relic belonging to the family of John C. Calhoun was discovered 61 years after it was lost. We explore how it was lost during the tragic Honda Point Disaster and the story of the man who discovered it—and the target it put on his back. And it all starts with a little street in the Sherman Oaks neighborhood of Los Angeles named Calhoun Avenue. Find show notes, sources, and more at plodpod.com Consider joining our Patreon famil...

Jul 11, 202356 minSeason 4Ep. 15

Living Monuments of the Lost Cause with Karen L. Cox

We explore the Lost Cause narrative—the myth that the South didn't actually secede from the Union and fight the Civil War over slavery. First, we focus on Confederate Vice President Alexander H. Stephens' chilling "Cornerstone Speech" defining the cause of the Confederacy, and then Howard talks with Dr. Karen L. Cox about her fascinating book "No Common Ground: Confederate Monuments and the Ongoing Fight for Racial Justice." Please note: the interview with Dr. Cox was recorded in October 2022 an...

Jul 04, 20231 hr 5 minSeason 4Ep. 14

Assassinating Andrew Jackson

In 1835 a man ambushed Andrew Jackson outside the Capitol and fired at him with two different pistols from less than 10 feet away—yet Jackson was unharmed. We dig into this failed assassination attempt, the wild trial of would-be assassin Richard Lawrence, and the conspiracy theories that started circulating immediately. Then we welcome guest David S. Brown, author of The First Populist: The Defiant Life of Andrew Jackson, for a chat about Jackson's image, personality, and his crusades against t...

Jun 20, 20231 hr 11 minSeason 4Ep. 13

Washington & Madison's Founding Fracture

How did James Madison go from being one of George Washington's best friends to someone Washington went to his grave despising? We look at the rise and fall of Washington and Madison's friendship, from their partnership to create the Constitution to their bitter breakup amidst the birth of America’s two-party system. Of all the rifts, rivalries, and betrayals that shaped the nation, this one might be the most personal. After digging into Madison's ratlike behavior, we read some listener responses...

Jun 13, 20231 hr 6 minSeason 4Ep. 12

Populism in The Wizard of Oz

We go on a bimetal-curious adventure over the rainbow to dig into the history of L. Frank Baum's American fairy tale The Wizard of Oz and its alleged connections to William Jennings Bryan and the Populist movement of the 1890s. Then, Howard talks with author Peter Shea about Bryan and other presidential candidates who never made it to the presidency—including Aaron Burr and John C. Calhoun—all featured in Shea's book "In The Arena: A History of American Presidential Hopefuls." Special thanks to ...

May 23, 20231 hr 10 minSeason 4Ep. 11

John Quincy vs. The Sun, The South & The Mole People

Guest Bob Crawford tells us about his new podcast "Founding Son: John Quincy's America" and John Quincy Adams's epic post-presidential battle against the Southern slavocracy and the Gag Rule. Before that, we dig into JQA's battle with solar eclipses and cover some exciting updates about JQA and the mole people—a myth we first discussed in our Season 1 episode "John Quincy Adams vs. The Internet." Find show notes and more at plodpod.com Consider joining our Patreon family at https://www.patreon.c...

May 16, 20231 hr 2 minSeason 4Ep. 10

The Rise and Fall of Billy Possum

Fearing the Teddy Bear was just a fad, some folks started looking for a successor toy. They settled on the Billy Possum. We dig into the birth of Billy Possum at a lavish Atlanta banquet for William Howard Taft in 1909, the innovative and disturbing promotional efforts of Susie W. Allgood to make Billy Possum happen, and the series of unfortunate events that led to the stuffed marsupial's downfall. Show notes and more at plodpod.com Check out our brand new "Hello Billy Possum!" shirt at our TeeP...

May 09, 20231 hr 6 minSeason 4Ep. 9

Teddy Bear's Creation Myths

We dig into the truth behind the chaotic 1902 Mississippi bear hunt that forever linked Teddy Roosevelt to a cute little bear and we explore the competing versions of the teddy bear's origin—and the clear winner. Then we look at the bizarre religious backlash against the teddy bear craze in 1907. Show notes and sources at plodpod.com—special thanks to "Holt Collier: His Life, His Roosevelt Hunts, and the Origin of the Teddy Bear" by Minor Ferris Buchanan and "Margarete Steiff, Morris Michtom and...

Dec 20, 20221 hr 4 minSeason 4Ep. 8

Treasures of Healthcare History with Tegan Kehoe

Guest Tegan Kehoe—medical historian and author of the fascinating new book "Exploring American Healthcare Through 50 Historic Treasures"—joins Howard for an enlightening and personal discussion about George Washington's dentures, Vitamin D beer, the tragic story of the Kennedy baby, and our firsthand experiences with lifesaving advancements in preemie care. But first, Howard and Jess talk about a medical treatment gone wrong with Thomas Jefferson's nightmarish trip to Warm Springs, Virginia in 1...

Dec 06, 20221 hr 6 minSeason 4Ep. 7

The Passion of Benjamin Franklin

We dig into the stories behind Benjamin Franklin's notoriously naughty reputation on a quest to determine whether he was a flirt, a feminist, or the philandering father of dozens of children. And we dive into a letter of Franklin's that was considered too obscene to print until 150 years after his death. Show notes and sources at plodpod.com Consider joining our Patreon family at https://www.patreon.com/ploddingthroughthepresidents Check out our merch store! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/plod...

Nov 29, 202243 minSeason 4Ep. 6

Friendsgiving Spectacular

It's a Thanksgiving supergroup of history podcasters when Howard joins Kenny Ryan of [Abridged] Presidential Histories, Alycia from Civics & Coffee, and Jerry Landry from Presidencies of the United States for a special Friendsgiving spectacular to talk about some of their favorite things. Check them out: [Abridged] Presidential Histories Civics & Coffee Presidencies of the United States Consider joining our Patreon family at https://www.patreon.com/ploddingthroughthepresidents where you ...

Nov 21, 20221 hr 2 minSeason 4Ep. 5

Why John Adams Hated Benjamin Franklin

We delve into the reasons behind John Adams's intense loathing of Benjamin Franklin, from their time as strange bedfellows in the Second Continental Congress to their time in France as diplomats with wildly different methods and work ethics. Even long after Franklin's death, Adams held a grudge against the man he considered a phony, glory-stealing sloth. Visit plodpod.com for more information. Key source: Evans, William B. “John Adams’ Opinion of Benjamin Franklin.” The Pennsylvania Magazine of ...

Nov 15, 202245 minSeason 4Ep. 4

The Resounding Will of Benjamin Franklin

We look at the haunting sounds and even more haunting history of Benjamin Franklin's favorite invention: the glass armonica. Then we welcome author Michael Meyer to discuss his new book Benjamin Franklin's Last Bet. The conversation brings Franklin to life and covers his unique bequests to the cities of Philadelphia and Boston and his rocky relationship with his son (hereby known as William Franklin, Patriot Hunter). We also touch on what Elon Musk and modern politicians could learn from Frankli...

Nov 08, 20221 hr 14 minSeason 4Ep. 3

A Perfect Monster: Burr, Hamilton, and the Manhattan Company

In 1799, New York City needed clean water to prevent the spread of Yellow Fever and Aaron Burr needed a friendly bank to fund his election efforts. We dig into how the brilliant, scheming Burr addressed both problems at once with the "perfect monster" known as The Manhattan Company, and how he duped Alexander Hamilton into being his greatest champion. Show notes and sources at plodpod.com Consider joining our Patreon family at https://www.patreon.com/ploddingthroughthepresidents Check out our me...

Nov 01, 202259 minSeason 4Ep. 2

Hamilton, Burr, and the Murder of Elma Sands

In our fourth season premiere we dig into the 1799 murder of Elma Sands, a young woman whose body was found in the Manhattan Well. With a boardinghouse full of suspects—none of whom can be trusted—the trial was always going to be a sensation. But with the accused killer Levi Weeks being defended by the dream team of rivals Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr, it became a truly dramatic event. Listen to the podcast Fresh Hell at https://freshhellpodcast.com/ Consider joining our Patreon family at h...

Oct 25, 20221 hr 2 minSeason 4Ep. 1

Season 4 Trailer

Season 4 premieres Tuesday, October 25th! Enter to win our 3-book giveaway of fascinating historical books from our first three guests this season: https://kingsumo.com/g/k3clkv/3-book-giveaway-plodding-through-the-presidents-season-4 These are the books: 1. Benjamin Franklin's Last Bet: The Favorite Founder's Divisive Death, Enduring Afterlife, and Blueprint for American Prosperity by Michael Meyer 2. Exploring American Healthcare through 50 Historic Treasures by Tegan Kehoe 3. In the Arena: A ...

Oct 18, 20221 min

Benjamin Rush To Judgment

In our third season finale, we look at confounding founder Benjamin Rush—his outstanding humanitarian accomplishments, his controversial bleeding and purging treatments during the Yellow Fever epidemics, and the dramatic trial where he sued newspaper publisher William Cobbett for accusing him of killing his patients. Sources and more at plodpod.com but a special shoutout to the extremely helpful Law and Medicine in Revolutionary America: Dissecting the Rush v. Cobbett Trial, 1799 by Linda Myrsia...

Nov 16, 20211 hr 12 minSeason 3Ep. 11

Mary Hellen's Petticoat Magic

We explore the tragic stories of John Quincy Adams’s sons—George Washington Adams, John Adams II, and Charles Francis Adams—through the structure of their cousin Mary Hellen playing a real life game of "F*ck Marry Kill" with them. Show notes, photos, and sources at plodpod.com Consider joining our Patreon family (and our Season 3 patron party on November 14th) at https://www.patreon.com/ploddingthroughthepresidents for bonus content and perks! Check out our merch store at https://www.teepublic.c...

Nov 09, 20211 hr 4 minSeason 3Ep. 10

Ghosts of the White House & New England with Jeff Belanger

We dig into the dubious story of Winston Churchill's naked encounter with the ghost of Abraham Lincoln. Then we welcome author, paranormal investigator, and New England Legends host Jeff Belanger for a fascinating conversation about the long history of reported hauntings in the White House, why New England has so many legends, and the value of ghost stories in teaching history. Show notes, photos, and sources at plodpod.com We'll be back November 9th! Consider joining our Patreon family at https...

Oct 26, 20211 hr 10 minSeason 3Ep. 9
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