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And welcome to Play Comics, where once again, we are here looking at a video game based on a comic property and how well it represents that source material. And today we are here not really going to the circus, but we're going to have some Peanuts anyway, even though the circus doesn't have animals anymore from what I hear. But I'm old and I haven't been for a while, so I don't know for sure. But today I have Bill Pepper here from It's a podcast, Charlie Brown. Because I mean, really, if I'm going to be looking at a Snoopy related game, can you think of anyone better for me besides one of the characters? And they're not real, so, you know, I'll take the best actual real person I can get. Bill, how are you doing today?
I'm great. Thank you for having me. I can assure you you probably could have found somebody better than me, but I'm what you got, so thanks for having me.
Well, I'll take what I can get then. Because listening to your show, I mean, just so informative with things, so much fun to listen to. And I realized that Peanuts has somewhere over 50 because that's the biggest number I'm willing to give it right now. Years of history. Anything bigger than that makes me feel like an old man and I don't want to do that. It's impossible to know everything, but you know a lot, or at least cheat. Make it sound like you know a lot.
That's more accurate. Yeah, I mean, the, the strip, Peanut strip has been around for now 75 years and then all the other stuff that goes with it. Yeah, it's impossible. I've met people who seem to know everything there is to know about Peanuts, and I've managed to pick up a lot and it's been fun. What was it that got you so interested in Peanuts that you just needed to start creating your own little product around it?
Well, I mean, I'm not a cartoonist, I'm not an artist. I write a little, but I don't draw none of that. I was a kid who liked the Peanuts comic strip and I had a lot of the Fawcett Crest collections of the Strips that I would sit and read as a kid, and that kind of stuff. Then that just kind of lingered in the back of my mind. I like Peanuts, and I'd read the strips occasionally and stuff. 10 years ago or so, I started listening to podcasts, and I thought, well, what kind of things do I like? You know, what kind of podcast should I listen to? And I thought, well, Peanuts. Yeah, I like Peanuts. I bet there's a lot of Snoopy podcasts out there. I'm going to go find some of those. And I started looking around, and there were none. There were shows that would talk about the TV special, Charlie Brown Christmas, that kind of thing, a little bit at the holidays, but that was it. And I thought, well, that's not right. This is an iconic part of popular culture. Somebody should be talking about this. All right, I guess I'll do it. Which was dumb because, frankly, because I had just started podcasting a few months before that with my other show, Atari Bytes by T E S Bytes, which I had started because I had an old Atari 2600 that was kind of fun. And I was a writer. So I started a show where I talked about Atari games and present a short story every week. And I was still learning how to do that and how to be a podcaster. And suddenly I started a second podcast called. It's a podcast. Charlie Brown having real. No, really no qualifications, but. But it's been fun learning to podcast and learning more about these things that I liked as a kid. Atari for the one show, Charlie Brown and Peanuts for the other show. And I've been doing it now since. Well, since 2016, I guess. So it's been a good time.
And it seems like that's a couple of good things to learn on, because they were pretty early in their own medium's history. I mean, obviously, comics had been around for a long time before the 50s when peanuts started. But newspaper comics in the form we know of today, pretty much from my understanding, Peanuts really helped solidify that Peanuts.
Remade what the newspaper comic strip was. Suddenly you had characters with depth. Really, it wasn't just jokes, although there was a fair amount of that, too. But Schulz's comics would talk about current events, people in the news depress. As a concept. You had Lucy, you know, in fact, having her own psychiatric booth, and characters would come and talk to her about their problems. A lot of times her answer would be a joke. But Charlie Brown in particular would talk about how he was depressed at times. Up until that time, he just didn't do that. But Schultz did and continued to do it for 50 years until 2000 when he passed away. And that's the only reason it stopped, because he passed away. He made it very clear he didn't want anyone else to continue on. And I don't think anybody else could have done it the way he did it for so many years.
Out of all the characters that exist, which there are a ton. Which ones do you think you connect with the most?
I've been forced to think about this a lot during the show that I do, and I still don't know. I guess I'm going to answer the way Charles Schulz would answer. You're kind of expected to. He was expected anyway to say Charlie Brown. And he did. He would say that sometimes. But he also would say, you know what, There's a part of all these characters in him, in me. For me, I probably would say Linus, you know, just because he is the kid who's growing up. He's got a big heart, but he's got all these conflicting views on the world and he's got, he's got a philosophy and he's got an understanding that maybe is just a little bit offbeat, but he's trying to understand who he is and what's. What the world is. And I was kind of that kid and Now I'm that 50 something year old kid still trying to figure out who I am and what the world is around me. So probably Linus is how I would answer.
I really want to say Snoopy for me, just because like Snoopy, I don't care, is the main character of the show and just so much fun with everything, so imaginative with everything. But just Linus sitting there yelling that if it can be destroyed by the truth that it deserves to be, just rings so well in my heart that I can't get away from that either.
Absolutely. As a caveat, I will say that my favorite character though, and I've said this many times, is Woodstock. I love Woodstock. He's so great. He's just a slow character. He doesn't get a lot to do necessarily, but when he does, he's hilarious. And you can tell that there's a whole lot going on in that little bird head that he just can't express, you know, And I just really like Woodstock a lot.
I think Woodstock in the earlier Snoopy stuff, where he isn't really talking as much, that just rings a whole lot of like the thoughts that you're having that you can't manage to get out the the way that you're seeing the world a different way from everybody else. And you get a little bit of that with the children too, but especially those characters. I feel like that is a really good thing to be able to go back and look at because all of this has gotten to be so popular, so long lasting. Like those early strips are never going to be hard to find at all.
No, not at all. Well, in fact, Fantagraphics Publishing Company did a really nice set of hardcover. You can get them in paperback too. Collection of the strips. Suddenly I'm doing an ad for Phantographics. They're not paying me, I promise. I think it's two years in each volume for the entire run of the strip. So you can get them, you can get them for free on Go Comics now too. I'm doing an ad for them apparently now too, so. So, yeah, to your point, they're everywhere and they should be. Especially for the young folks. You know, they can't pick up a newspaper. Not that anybody picks up newspapers anymore, but you can't just pick up the paper and read a peanut strip. You gotta go look for it because there's a lot there.
You've got a nice chunk of people now too, that probably weren't growing up with a newspaper handy. And so these are essentially new to them, even though they're like 18, 20 years old. Like the humans, not the comics. Comics, yeah, they're kind of old and they have that timelessness about them where they stayed in the time that they were in. But they don't feel really antiquated to me at all, which I think is a big plus.
And that's part of the magic of what Schultz did. He made these things that didn't just, oh, that was kind of funny. And then you throw it away and forget about it. He made stuff that sticks in the back of your mind as a kid reading it. And as you get older and have your friends and your siblings and your own kids, maybe eventually you remember this stuff and you want to share it with them. My kids, I'm pretty sure, even though I do a podcast, my kids are teenagers. I'm pretty sure they have never read a Peanuts comic strip. But at the holidays they will ask to watch the anime made specials. Halloween or Christmas, not so much Thanksgiving, although I really like the Thanksgiving one. But they know that stuff and Peanuts lives in their brain because of that. And I think that's great too.
Yeah, I know. For me, it was my dad. We went up to his mom's house, got some stuff out of there because she just needed to get some stuff out of her house. And some of the things we got out were some of those old 50s, 60s paperback collections of the newspaper strips. And that's how we read most of the really early stuff.
Sure. And I think that's great. And you'll probably share them on with. With other people, and hopefully they will share it on. And as the generations pass, there's a real worry, there's a real concern that Peanuts is going to fade as we know it. But I think there's always going to be T shirts and greeting cards, and Peanuts will exist in some form and mean something to future generations in some way. And I think that's great.
And luckily, a lot of people I know that are younger like that, they like going back and digging up the history of things. So even if it's something that they have to work for a little bit, that probably will make it a little bit better for them because they put in the work and see, oh, here's this comic that it's about. Here's everything that was going on. Here's Franklin getting introduced after Martin Luther King Jr. Got assassinated because so many people were asking for an African American character, here's character that they visited that had cancer, and just so many real life things in this strip that a lot of newspaper comics either wouldn't touch at all, or it would be, hi, here they are for one panel, and then you'd never see them again.
Well, yeah, the Franklin thing. Schulz himself was reluctant to do it only because he was worried about being able to do it the right way. But when he decided, yes, this is a thing that's right to do, he got pushback from other news, from newspapers, especially in the south, that we don't want. We don't want this. And Schultz, even though he was kind of at the height of his power there in the 1960s, said, you know what? Maybe I'll quit then. You don't want to run it the way I drew it. I guess I'm done making a comic strip. He felt it was that important at that time. So it's another way. The Peanuts comic strip, this little newspaper strip that he made by his own. By his own mind, just as a tool to sell newspapers. He didn't think he was making art. He thought he was making, you know, a way to bring people to the newspaper. But he saw an opportunity to do, to make some social change, and he thought he could do it, and he did. And I think Peanuts is just amazing. For all those reasons.
And without this little strip, you don't have this is America Charlie Brown. You don't have any of the other ones that are actually like, let's look at a historical thing. Yeah, you maybe eventually could have gotten what is essentially the sports storylines or something, but there's just something that hits home with Peanuts related historical stuff to me.
Absolutely. This is America Charlie Brown was great. There's new stuff on Apple TV Plus I'll do an ad for Apple TV plus too, man. I'm doing lots of free ads today. They are putting out new Peanuts content. They, they, they now have all of the animated peanut stuff from the past. They're the only ones running it, which has gotten a little bit of criticism because you can't just turn on network TV anymore and watch A Charlie Brown Christmas and that kind of thing. But they have all that stuff. But they are also making new content and they have made some really nice, not so much historical stuff or anything. They've made some really nice little character pieces for Lucy and Marcy and Sally just. And Franklin also as well, focusing on them as people and real emotions and real stuff. It's not quite traditional Peanuts. It's a little bit different, but it's also the 2000s now. It's not the 1960s. So the world is different. So there are people who are still worried about making good Peanuts content, be it historical or a character study or whatever. And it makes me feel like, okay, this is a thing that's going to continue on for generations to come. And I'm very happy about that.
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Those are some great shows to check out, but first, let's finish up here. So, Bill, what we're looking at here is a Game Boy color game from 2001. It was made by Mermaid Studios, published by Infogrames, and I mean, it's a tennis game. Let's just be straight upfront about that. That's really all there is to say about it. Gameplay wise, it's a decent tennis game.
I agree. I know it's a good tennis game because I was as bad at this game as I am at real tennis. So that says a lot. And it does. It feels like a real tennis game. Sounds like it's got the racket noise and whatever and, and the characters move like tennis players. But you can tell. Yes, they made a tennis game. And then they said, okay, let's make everybody look like Snoopy and Charlie Brown and all of that. There's nothing in here that screams peanuts to me other than that. But that's not a criticism necessarily. If you want a good tennis game, I think you're going to get that from playing this game.
You do have a bunch of different characters in here, eight of them that you can play as. Obviously you can be Snoopy. Charlie Brown's going to be in everything. Lucy and Linus are in here. And it feels really weird for me to say them in that order because the song is Linus and Lucy. So, yeah, can't believe I did that. It does feel weird. Yes.
And you have Franklin, Sally, Schroeder, and Peppermint Patty. So I mean, yeah, there's other people I would have wanted to see in here, but again, it's Game Boy Color. How much more space do you have on the game that you can fit in? I don't think anybody in here is a bad choice. No, and I don't know. Did you say Woodstock? Did you mention Woodstock? Woodstock is not a fully playable character.
He is not, but he appears in the game, and it's weird because he's really big. He's like Snoopy sized. And when I was making notes about this game, which, by the way, I'd never heard of this game, frankly, until you told me about it, I had to go looking for it and figure out what this game is and so forth, which I'm happy I did because I like the game, but Woodstock is huge. And I made some notes and I'm like, this is a writer. You know, I'm a Peanuts fan. I'm like, I have to criticize things. I don't like this. And then I started reading more about and realized, well, okay, they couldn't really make Woodstock tiny because of the practicalities of he's got to move, he's got to hold a racket, all of that. So. So I get it. But it does look kind of weird.
And they do make the characters so that they have different attributes. You know, they're. There's running and forehand and backhand shots and serving and stuff. And like, they're better and worse at different things in different combinations. And as far as I can tell, there's nothing that that's really like, Charlie Brown would be this way. So these are his attributes kind of stuff.
Yeah. And another note that I was making was kind of that what you're saying. And I said, well, you know, Snoopy could be the world famous tennis player, which is a. Which is a recurring character in the script. Maybe at some point he throws his racket or something. And I did read, actually, that in the. When they redid this for the European market, they did put some of that kind of stuff in some of those attributes. Not a lot, but they put in a few things to kind of make it more Peanuts. Ish. But unfortunately, it's not in the version that we have here in America.
I don't remember if Game Boy games you could, like, cross the markets like you can with Super Nintendo stuff. I don't know. That's something I'll have to check out later. Yeah, yeah. I'll be honest. I'm not an expert on Nintendo. I barely know anything about Atari, frankly, even though I hosted an atari podcast for 330 episodes. So that was another crazy thought I had that I could talk about this. This team system. But I did, and Peanuts is the same way.
I mean, I barely know about some of the things that I Talk about. That's why I keep good guests on.
That's the key to podcast. Anybody out there who wants to start a podcast, just get good guests and let them talk. Absolutely. I never had. I'll just add here. I never had a Game Boy color. I had Game Boy, but I never had a color one. So I've never gotten to experience that. I played this. I found an emulator and played this that way. I assume it feels a little different if you play it on an actual Game Boy. I don't know if you've had the opportunity to do that.
I had to do it with an emulator, too, but I have controllers, so I wasn't doing it on my keyboard.
Yeah. And I. And I. I was. And that makes it harder, obviously. So maybe it would feel a little different if I had that. The other opportunity. I'm looking at my notes here. There are a number of Peanuts and Snoopy games, which I'm realizing that I know nothing about really any of them other than Snoopy and the Red Baron, which is a great game, actually, for the Atari. And that's another game where they. They did a really nice job of. Of making a Snoopy game. Peanuts Worldwide. Charles M. Schultz Creative Associates has a heavy hand in any of this stuff, including Snoopy Tennis. They weighed in here when the game was being developed, and they didn't. My understanding is they didn't actually complain a whole lot, which maybe is understandable because there really isn't a whole lot of Peanuts in this game to complain about. There was a level, I guess, that originally was called Sudden Death, and they asked him to change that to Sudden Win. There was a skull imagery, I assume on the same level there was a skull. And they said, nah, Peanuts game. Let's take that out. And that's about it. But again, it's understandable because there's not. The Peanuts characters aren't doing a whole lot of Peanuts stuff. They just happen to look like Snoopy in Woodstock and whatever.
I'm thinking maybe the skull would have been in. They have a power mode where there's power ups that show up. And so the skull could have been, like, losing the point immediately. That makes sense. That could be. But, yeah, the Peanuts folks said, yeah, maybe that's not a great thing for a Peanuts game.
The locations of the courts, though, that is where I think you get more into the Peanuts side of things, because you can play at the school bus. You can play in Snoopy's backyard, which I appreciate that it's his backyard and not Charlie Brown's. Because we all know who really owns the yard when there's a dog in the house. Absolutely. I mean, the other ones are just. They're there. They're not bad. But those two especially.
Yeah. You know, you can just be Snoopy smacking the ball at your own doghouse. Absolutely. And, you know, it's a backyard, of course, because the doghouse is in the background there. Yeah. I think. What there was a beach, I think is one of the options. And I forget what the other ones were, but, yeah, I think at one point you can be in the forest. I thought it was odd. Yeah.
Okay. So, yeah, if it's me, I'm probably going to choose the backyard because you got the doghouse in the background. It makes me feel happy that I'm in Snoop. His backyard. You could have had the baseball field. You could have had somewhere up in the Arctic trying to think of some other Peanuts iconic locations. You could have had a ton of stuff. I don't remember them ever being in a forest. I'm sure they were at a beach at some point.
Although I will. The forest thing, I will say when I watch the. Sort of a side note, I guess, when I watch a lot of the animated peanuts, like the Peanuts by Schultz short episodes and that kind of thing, when they're on a bus, I feel like they spend a lot of time driving through the forest because the bus frequently is going through these areas where it's just full of trees. Is it very weird? I don't know. So maybe they do spend a lot of time in the forest.
That's right. They do have to get to their summer camp.
That's true. Maybe that's what it is. You know, I don't know. My understanding, and I'm getting a little bit out of my area here because I don't know anything about game development really. But my understanding is that this game was made by two guys, which even I can agree is probably pretty remarkable that only two guys designed this game. Intro Grams happened to have a license with peanuts to make it a Peanuts game, or else we wouldn't have Snoopy Peanuts. We probably just have a tennis game. And I think I may be wrong. I think the game came together and was published in a fairly short amount of time. Am I right about that?
That's the way I'm understanding all of it. Mermaid Studios was the two guys on there. I don't know how long they had been working on the initial tennis game because it was something that they were going to be making anyway. And by the time I actually get this episode out, I'll have a link in the show notes somehow, or at least a note in the show notes for what that original tennis game was. Because I'm sure you can find at least video of it online. But from the time that infogram said, hey, let's make this a Snoopy game. Yeah, that's pretty quick turnaround.
Yeah. Which makes it all the more impressive. But it is a good game, and we keep having to reemphasize the point. It is a good tennis game, I think. Not that I played a lot of tennis games, but when I was playing this one, I felt like, okay, you know, I'm getting it. The guys, you know, I think I read they very carefully, were trying not to make Pong right. They wanted to make it feel like a legit tennis game with forehands and backhands and all that, and it does. So they made a quality product, I think.
As we start to wrap things up on this one, what do you think this really gets right? Comparing it to the Peanuts franchise?
The look of the characters is great. They look really good. The title card has an image of Snoopy lying on a baseball. They took that directly from the COVID of a book called Snoopy's Tennis Book, which came out in 1979. It's a collection of tennis themed strips, like, say, the look of the characters. I have not seen the additions that they made for the European versions, but it sounds like they did very explicitly try to put a little bit more Peanuts animation in there as they could. So although when you look at the American version, there's not a whole lot of Peanuts stuff to see, other than the look of the characters, I do feel like, despite that, they were trying very hard to make a good Peanuts product, and I respect that. So if you want to play a game where Snoopy has Snoopy adventures, this probably isn't it. But if you want to play a good tennis game and looking at Snoopy makes you smile, this is probably a good game.
Yeah. In addition to all that, I don't know if you had a chance to find the instruction manual. It is full of. It's just full of illustrations on there. And some of them are colors, some of them are not. Some of them are pulled straight from strips on things. It's all nice and colorful. Like, if you just want a good looking piece of Peanuts media. I mean, the instruction manual by itself is a good example of that.
Well, I have not seen it, but that doesn't surprise me. Again, I'm guessing that's probably the work of creative associates coming in. I'm pretty sure that they very specifically said, you can use this and this and this. You can't use that because they are very protective of Peanuts and where their images go. So I have no doubt that that looks very nice. What, if anything, do you think this one gets specifically wrong about Peanuts?
Like I mentioned, making Woodstock huge is just frightening, actually, like Frankenstein, Woodstock or something. But, yeah, I don't feel that was an intentional error. I think it was a practicality of programming, so I'm gonna let that go. But other than that, I don't know if there's anything really wrong, Peanuts wise. I'm with you. Like, there's plenty that's missing, but nothing really wrong. Yeah.
And especially on a Game Boy color game. I don't know if I can hold that against them too much. Well, and that's the other thing, too. It was the early 2000s. It was a Game Boy game. Certainly there are some limitations there.
I probably don't need to ask you this, but if you had somebody, if you somehow magically found somebody who had no idea what Peanuts was at all. So, first off, that's an imaginary situation right there. But would you give them this game as part of a primer course for getting them into Peanuts?
No, I wouldn't. But, you know, as we've been saying, that's not a criticism of the game. That's just the reality of there's nothing really all that peanutsy, if I can use Peanuts E as a word about it. So, no, I probably wouldn't. I probably would look at some of these other games that I'm not as familiar with. I'm sure some of those are more would be a better primer.
This one, I think, is going to be my new prime example for a game that's really good, but is horrible for actually representing the comic source material. Yeah, absolutely. Outside of those sprites they have on there and Snoopy's Doghouse, like, there's nothing overtly Peanuts about anything.
No, I think it was just a situation where Infogrames received this really good tennis game and just happened to have just gotten the license to do a Snoopy thing and hadn't really come up with an idea yet, but they wanted to use this new thing that they had, so they married the two, and this was the result.
So in the spirit of this not even being Peanuts, let's just break all of the walls down between every franchise on everything. If you could have one Muppet come and Be the final boss player that you have to beat in this game. Who do you think that Muppet is going to be?
Well, my first thought was Miss Piggy because of course she's very aggressive and I could see her being just a. Just a dynamo. I don't know why I said dynamo, but that's the word that came to mind on the court. But maybe Animal is a better choice because I don't know if you turn an animal loose with a tennis racket, what he's going to do if he. He's certainly not going to follow the rules of tennis. So I think he might be a better final boss. So, yeah, I'm going to go with Animal.
Oh, I was thinking either Elmo or Grover, just because I can see both of them in all the exercise gear and that makes sense. But just Animal being crazy. Animal, I think, might actually be a final boss material. Maybe if we're going more Sesame street theme, maybe Cookie Monster. Right. And maybe the ball, it suddenly. Balls suddenly are cookies. Something like that. That might be good, too.
That would be good. Well, Bill, it has been great talking to you about all of this. If people want to hear more from you, where else can they find you? Around the Internet?
The website is carnivalofglycreations.com. there's information about both my podcasts. Atari Bytes is on hiatus. It's been a hiatus for a while, but all 300 plus episodes are still there. I heartily encourage people to go listen to that. It's a podcast. Charlie Brown is still going on twice a month. Both those podcasts are available wherever you like to get podcasts. The website has information about all of that as well as books that I've written. I've written a few books. You can find out more about those on the website. I'm on all sorts of social media, usually as Carnival of Glee. It's a podcast. Charlie Brown also has some social media, separately has some social media places as well. But yeah, Carnival of Glee for the most part is who I am on social media. I'd be thrilled to listen, thrilled to hear from everybody. It's been awesome to be here. It was nice to meet you and I'm a fan of the show now.
Well, thank you. And as always, we'll have links to all that stuff down in the show notes. Because clicking links is so much easier than trying to remember how to spell things. Absolutely.
As always, the best place to find me is over@playcomics.com where there's links to all the social media things, which is mostly Blue sky. So, yeah, I should make sure there's actually a link there because I think I might have taken it off when I got the website completely redesigned, mostly. So, yeah, by the time this comes out, I'm going to have that checked and I'm going to sound really dumb, but I don't feel like taking this out because I don't really care that much. You all know that with some things, I'm just an idiot. If you want to be on the show and prove how much I'm an idiot because you know more about something than I do, then there's a link down in the show notes or a page on the website, which is where that link goes to, that has a list of what I'm looking to get booked the soonest. So, you know, come on and come talk about things like Buck Rogers or Digimon or any of the other wonderful things that I have on this list because, you know, I need people to be a guest. I can't make an episode by myself. Y'all really don't want to hear that. It would be really, really bad. So, like, if you want to hear that, go listen to the first few episodes where I did it by myself. And I mean, understand that I would probably be a little bit better than that now, but not much. So be a guest, find a guest and send them my way. If you don't think you could do it but you know somebody else who could, that kind of thing, yeah, that would be great. You should really do that. If you want to help support the show. Then you can be like Dan McMahon or. Oh, no, look, class. Give the show money. You. They're doing it via Patreon. You can do it via some other places. There's a link on the website for that. Or you can just ask me and I'll tell you. But Patreon's the one that I'm going to say, because that's kind of the easiest one for me to say. It's kind of built into my brain that that's what people use. So it's just the way my brain works. Don't forget that Play Comics is a part of the Gunageek.com network, home to such wonderful shows as Legends of Shield where we are continuing to see where Matt Murdock is heading as we look at Daredevil Born Again. I can't see where it's going. Can you see where it's going? How many times am I going to make that stupid joke? You can't tell because you can't see into the future. I did it again. If you want to hear me take a deep dive into the media that we watched as children and have Carrington Martin along for the ride with me. And check out all those lessons that were really important for us to learn way back then, but all of a sudden now we're not kids anymore, and so those lessons aren't important and we should just forget about them because capitalism, yay. Excuse me while I go throw up for having said that. The capitalism, yay part. You know, you can actually listen to me on a show like that pretty soon anyway, because me and Karenson haven't started releasing it yet. But it's going to be called Sugar Spite and everything is fine because, you know, Dog on Fire and Everything is Fine and all that sugar and spite because, I don't know, I was really into the Powerpuff Girls, but who wasn't? It was a good show. Still is a good show. If you like the music that I'm really talking on top of right now, head on over to BackingTrack GG and check out all the great music they have over there. Maybe grab some for your own project, because guess what? It's really good. And they know what they're doing. There's nothing to go along with that. They just know what they're doing and they make good stuff. So, you know, go grab it, make your own stuff. It's really cool. Most of all, just grab a game, grab a stack of comics, and go find yourself a new favorite character. But today we have Bill Pepper here. I'm completely blanking on the name of your podcast.
It's. It's called. It's a podcast. Charlie Brown. Oh, gosh, you'd think I'd remember that.