So Abner, Google Photos, is now 10. It's a small child in app circles. Yeah, Damien, yeah, it's... But anyway, we were kind of talking about it last week in the context of just basic gallery apps. But what Google is celebrating is Google Photos was announced 10 years ago at IO 2015. I saw Sundar had a post about how it was an early example of being researched into reality, which is a theme of this IO.
specifically, I think, deep neural networks and how it improves search, which is still, to me, the underrated feature. You can just type in. It's hardly do I... is it hard for me to find anything in Google Photos these days with the natural language queries? But yeah, 10 years of it. I guess, well, technically, some people used Google Plus Photos before it.
And that was, of course, Picasa, but that was before my time. I never used Picasa, but I definitely used Google Plus Photos for a little bit in the early days of using Android phones. But I think... In a post Google Photos world, it's amazing to think that most devices now come with a cloud-based storage approach to things. Every device, absolutely. And I feel like...
It's probably underplayed at how important Google Photos has been to the smartphone era, like in an age when we're carrying around incredible cameras in our pockets and they've only evolved over time. I feel like with Google Photos, it is genuinely one of the most understated applications on any phone. I mean, I complained about it a little bit last week that I think it's starting to get, in my opinion, a little bit bloated.
What it does, it does incredibly well. And once you tie it into the whole drive and cloud storage ecosystem. It's a given these days. It's understated because... I don't think most people have to worry about backups if they enable just a default one on their phone. That is a reliable sync experience for most people with storage.
getting them to actually buy storage being the main thing but yeah the app um i feel like we're due for an upgrade well we we got a look of the redesign photo editor which is heavy emphasis on AI tools but even before getting into that they showed So the Google Vans button in the full screen photo viewer, that appears to be switching to add to. So they can quickly add things to.
albums and such that was an interesting small tweak but yeah the actual editor itself it's pretty it looks like they've cleaned it up they've gotten rid of the well the double carousel fact is probably still there but it feels like they put more I think it's a more full screen UI in that you're placing some things in the top. It's more compact without being too overcrowded. So I think there's definitely a simplification.
going towards the editor. But here's a question I have for you. How often do you edit photos? Because honestly, I was just looking at the stuff I took at I.O., the team and the event and stuff. I rarely edit photos. I kind of like... the well I don't really share photos that much but still even stuff I sent to friends I don't think I maybe I crop it maybe not but I kind of like the
pure untouched image these days maybe that's a sign of my age you know it could be i feel like yeah i'm kind of the same in that i don't i don't very often i well here's how i'd describe it I don't want to make edits in post. I would rather it be almost perfect to begin with. Like I think that's like a videographer style thing where I don't like the terminology sometimes fix it in post because you will take an image, a bad image, and you'll try your best to fix it.
But I feel like if you get the shot initially without having to worry about it, the framing being wrong, somebody being in the shot that you don't want to be there. Maybe younger people don't care because these tools have existed the entire time they've been using devices. Yeah, like Instagram era, they used a lot of filters, but I rarely do that ever.
now maybe filters filters are a strange one i'm not a huge fan of filters in general um because i think they're showing they start to break down images right yeah but i think maybe maybe with the modern camera system I mean, obviously I'm using the S25 Ultra at the moment and most of the photos that come out that are fantastic to begin with. I don't really want to make too many tweaks. I think...
It's a good thing that Photos has these, but I do actually... You raised another question. This is much more broadly rhetorical a little bit. If Google made some of these features a little bit more desktop friendly, I wonder where they would go. I would love to see a Google Photos plugin for Photoshop, for instance.
That would have been fantastic. I maybe would, well, I'd maybe be more tempted to edit my images in Photoshop if I had direct access to a repo or a cloud plugin for Photoshop. And I do wonder if... if that might be something that Google eventually does. But yeah, as for tweaking things, I think the tool set's pretty good. I'm just not a huge fan of making edits using my finger.
I think with the S Pen, I'm more inclined to do it. But even then, I just think, like you say, you take the image and it's kind of done. Like, that's how it is. I feel like that's kind of a cool way to do it. Yeah, like, I used to be such a big Snapseed user because... The UI was so intuitive. You slide up and down to access the tool and you go left and right to edit the value. And to me, that's still ingrained to me.
In editing, I still have Snapseed installed on my phone. And I personally don't think Google... I feel like Google probably wants to kill it and just bring all people into photos. But at this point, I don't think it's worth the hassle.
for them to do it because it's it's totally on device there's no real there's i'm sure there's zero cloud components so it doesn't matter they can keep it running um but yeah i think they'll they'll stay around for continue to stay around because people just love that intuitive interface and it probably doesn't make sense for them to do any more updates like just through getting a Google Photos editor redesign but
Just food for thought, I guess. I do think, though, that all of these things are good to have in Google Photos. I think because, like I say, it's 10 years since... I mean, it actually feels longer, if I'm being completely honest. But I think if you have a huge library of backed up images, I'm really intrigued to see what happens with some of the AI tools. Like I know we've had the image on blur and all that kind of stuff. And I know some of them were behind a paywall.
It would be really cool if you could have access to, say, bulk image processing almost within Google Photos. I would love to see what that could do because sometimes I'll go through and see some of my oldest images.
And I'm like, they're actually pretty good still. Like, I mean, I don't mean in terms of like how as a photo, I mean, as in like the quality's passable. I would love to see something like... uh, Google photos or either on your phone or maybe on the, on the website where you can kind of like, it will give you more suggestions or maybe give you a non-destructive edits where you can be like, Hey, sharpen all of these clean and see what they see, what the end results like, because.
I think if AI is going to be integrated, I'm not going to do it, like you say, with a brand new phone. It's the older images I'm going to make the changes to to give them a new lease of life. Yeah, it's AI. That's the thing. That's the other big thing about this editor. You can circle a part of a photo, tap it, and then you get a list of relevant AI tools that can make changes.
I think just going forward in the future, it's AI. We already have reimagined with where you select part of the photo and describe what you want it to happen. I don't think that's taken off in the Pixel 9. I know that was like a flagship push, but I don't think, nor do I, I kind of don't want to see those photos.
it's not real or it didn't accurately depict whatever happened. Pixel 8, actually. Maybe it's Pixel 8. Yeah, there was Pixel 8, I think. Again, it feels like a long time ago since I started adding these AI features already. Yeah, well, I guess I'm less interested in that kind of stuff and like changing the background versus like natural conversational editing where you can like...
I know you can ask it to crop, you can make it brighter by just saying it versus manually going in there yourself. So maybe that's the kind of AI stuff I'm curious in in Google Photos. But yeah, it's Google Photos at 10. Again, like with Google+, which is kind of amusing that that's what survived the social network. Probably a bit longer, but it's 10.
Yeah, 10. Let's hope we get 10 more years out of it. I think we will. I think the fact that everyone is so deeply ingrained within it, and I think if you're like me and you have a Nest Hub, and I know you have several Nest Hubs and Pixel tablets, I think one of the most underrated features of the Pixel...
pixel in well pixel any android that is and google photos the integration with them is just amazing to have images appear on your in your home and i think that that to me has been the biggest thing for google photos in the last I guess it's five years, isn't it? Five years since the Nest Hub. Was it 2018, 2019? Maybe a bit longer that that first became a thing. So no, seven years. I'm talking rubbish. It's basically, yeah, if you...
If you feel like you're not getting enough out of Google Photos, go pick up a used or a cheap Nest Hub, Home Hub. and it'll bring those photos to life for you and you have a library of images that maybe you don't look at you backed up hundreds of thousands whatever you've backed up And I think, yeah, that's something that nobody else is really doing apart from, I think, Amazon at this point in time. Or even like putting the photos gallery widget on your home screen, one of your home screens.
Fun way to every time, not on the main one, obviously, but on the secondary home screen. It's kind of nice. Yeah, 10 years. That was IO. 10 years ago and we've now had a week to live for the last one um how are you feeling um as you can probably tell i sound a little bit
bedraggled i sound a bit i managed to pick something up on the way home but apart from that a lot of things have percolated in my brain and there has been obviously there's some incredible announcements i'm sure everyone out there has listened and and seen the um the insane VO3 compilations and how... I mean, I guess there are a few tells in it at this point in time, and I don't want to...
It's almost like I don't want to say what's wrong with AI video because that gives the next iteration where they need to fix it, if that makes sense. Agreed. But yeah, there's a few things about that. I'm kind of on the fence about it. It is impressive, but at the same time, it's like I'm not sure the true applications. Yeah, that's, I think, one knock of this.
this and like google ai pro and its current uh well ai alter in its current iteration i have personally have no interest in the the generative media side of it um the vo imaging i i just don't have a use case for that in my life um so that's the thing that i'm that's why i'm not too enthused about ai pro ai ultra right now
But yeah, people do have access to it, to Google's credit. And to what you're saying, people are sharing these examples. They're making these examples. It is something to talk about. And that's, I guess, it's... a good io or good keynote rather has something that people can play with immediately and share and talk about and i think we got that um last week but but i guess for my personal cup of tea it's not it's not really
Not the kind of thing I want to play around with, but yeah. Yeah, I guess my takeaway is that it was a pretty good IO in terms of... It was one of the better IOs in recent history in terms of the announcements, in terms of how futuristic. I guess that's always my...
My benchmark, my yearly benchmark is how futuristic the announcements are from the IO. And I think we got more applied applications of AI versus like holding new products. It's AI moving into... more AI moving to Gmail to Google Meet I wish I had a reason to try the voice the speech to translate the interpreter really But yeah, it's Google Meet, Gmail, Gemini got some upgrades. But yeah, it's...
It was one of the better IOs. It's futuristic. It's Google. Definitely better than Rasty in terms of products that are meat we were able to try. So much stuff is coming in the summer in terms of search. So yeah, I think that was a... one of google's beta ios i feel like last year we were kind of coming off the back of io and and there was a whole how would i describe it it was more of a um there was a bit more
I don't want to say knee-jerk, but that's the only way to describe it. There's a bit more of a knee-jerk reaction to, oh, the internet's going to die, AI overviews are going to kill everything. AI overviews is a slop era of AI. Don't get me wrong, there's still a lot of slop era and AI overviews does need a lot of work. But you can already see that Gemini as a platform, because I guess it is a platform, not a product, is...
Probably in a really good position in terms of like, and I would probably count myself as a bit of an AI hater. I've started to integrate certain things into my workflows because, hey, you can't let things get. away from you if that makes sense if someone else if you don't do it somebody else will and um i i what i what i found with with um so many announcements were that they feel more obvious this time around as opposed to
oh, we're just going to put out as much information as humanly possible and hope that something sticks. I think it was less abstract, right? Yeah, it's less abstract this year because there is tangible things off the back of Gemini. And I think having used Gemini a lot more in the intervening 11 months or 12 months, whatever the hell it was, I'm finding certain things genuinely useful. Some things are still, I don't understand them, but maybe it's just not for me.
Maybe AI is not this, and I think a lot of people have maybe touted it as this catch-all thing. And obviously AI, the terminology, is strange because obviously we have LLMs and we have like, I mean, it's...
Yeah, the application of AI is very different from product to product. And I think that's maybe where we were last year, we were kind of like, well, how's this going to... operate how's this going to work we didn't have a frame of reference really in your daily life and i think yeah yeah and i think yeah you need to use ai it's like i said ai is the hardest thing to market in the world the hardest product
And the use cases that work for you, work for you, they don't really translate to other people. It's such a hard marketing problem. But once you, like the best thing for Google was to... have people just use this stuff and to get just get a feel for it and talk and i think that the takeaway you got was uh from gemini life in the car or gemini in general in the car
Yeah, I think that is genuinely, that will change the way that I navigate the world. That sounds ridiculous. It sounds hyperbolic. But the idea of having, I think a lot of this is...
There's a few things that have led to this point. I think most modern vehicles as a driver have moved away from the traditional buttons and dials and you can almost use them without taking your eyes off the road. I think we reached a point a few years ago where tech... tech companies got involved with with cars more readily and then we ended up in a situation and android automotive is partially to blame for this is they started to put a tech stack in the vehicle
which was distracting, and I'm going to, dare I say it, dangerous. I think having huge touchscreen devices in the middle of your dashboard is genuinely quite dangerous because you take your eyes off the road to interact with it rather than just touch a button and...
increase the temperature in the room or in the vehicle, sorry, or increase the volume, you might get that on your steering wheel and be a few buttons, but then you're overawed with the amount of choice and what each function does. I think the Google Assistant was a temp. an attempt at almost curbing that. And yeah, the Google Assistant's fine. The Google Assistant, I think, has reached its almost natural end. I think we reached that point probably a few years ago when...
The rigid command system of the Google Assistant in a vehicle is so stressful to use when you're trying to drive because obviously you are genuinely, in a lot of cases, you could have a two, three, four ton vehicle. traveling at 60, 70 miles an hour, the last thing you want to do is get the, you're not concentrating on what the exact wording of the prompt is. And then you get frustrated and road rage if Google Assistant doesn't apply that correctly from what you said.
Yeah, there's a lot of problems with it, but the way that I saw Gemini, specifically in Android Auto, because that was where it's going to roll out first, and having access to all of your on-device files is genuinely phenomenal. I genuinely cannot believe how well it rolled with the punches. We threw a lot of things. We tried to throw in some curveballs because it was on a bit of an on-rails demo, but like even little things.
asking for a song on the radio and you don't know the name of the artist, I don't need to look at my phone. I don't need to look anywhere. I just ask Gemini. It's conversational. It tells me it's going to play it. Then even... It did genuinely, it's one of the few things in the last few years, I don't want to say blow my mind, but it's done what I actually wanted from a service. Yeah, it's...
It sounds simple. We've had Gemini on our phones and translating it over the car seems like, okay, is that really that difficult? Is that really that impressive? Is that really that different? But I think it speaks to how context matters. The form factors really matters. The way you're using it. I think the antidote that... Anecdote, sorry.
that the executives are giving out. Like, instead of, they're talking to Gemini Live on their commutes, which there's some American car culture, etc., etc. during their morning commutes and they found like they talk instead of let's say calling somebody they have a conversation with Gemini Live which I mean you can't always line up calls with your commutes etc but
It's interesting. It's people talking to it, getting a dedicated space, get dedicated time rather. I don't know if it's just 10, 15 minutes a day of you.
talking to Gemini Live instead of, say, listening to a podcast or whatever. I think that's like such a hidden thing, a hidden time, space that Google can monopolize. It's... I think it's again like once people once it rolls out people will try it but I don't know next time you're taking a walk see what happens when you talk to Gemini live it's it's really it's a natural fit this time in the car where
Yeah, you can listen to music or podcasts or you can try having this conversation. And I think that could be promising, really promising. Yeah, I think as well, and this is going to sound weird. the way i explain it but it works in my it works in my head that's the main thing i think being in a car is almost like a closed ecosystem yes and i think
If you have some, say you have another person in the vehicle, it opens up that ecosystem slightly wider, doesn't it? You can talk to someone in the vehicle. You can interact with them. I think I do a lot of solo driving. And sometimes when, for instance, So just seeing how Gemini worked with directional navigation, sorry, not directional, you can ask things that are contextual to where you're going to. So for instance, you might ask it,
And then obviously some of the demos were like, oh, I need to add this to the shopping list. You may be going to the supermarket or the grocery store. And you find a recipe and then you can add something to your shopping list instantaneously. So for instance, you can ask Gemini to say, oh, I forgot about these three ingredients. Can you add them to the shopping list? The only downside was we didn't get to see the test device, seeing that person's keep notes list to see if it actually did work.
I can only assume that it did, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt in that regard. That could be insane because you could jump off a call with somebody in the vehicle. Oh, we forgot to pick up eggs. Could you pick up some eggs?
you ask Gemini to do it, you say, oh, what recipe are you working on? Oh, we only need three eggs, but we're going to buy six. What can I do with the extra three eggs? That sounds far like... that's futurism that's that futurism that i think i want from from technology and this is probably like i mean i'm definitely showing my age here and i've never even watched it to be honest with you but night ride i've been able to talk to your vehicle and get
Is it kit the car? Yeah, you can kind of talk to your car and get all of that feedback. If it develops the way I think it's going to develop, and I do think what will happen is they start integrating Astra into your in-car dash cameras. That'd be wild. This could make some genuine strides because I don't think we've had a quantum leap in car entertainment since Bluetooth has added.
And then maybe in-car Wi-Fi and data signals being able to kind of pull Google Maps from your dash. This could be that step forward. Apple won't be able to do it. Apple cannot do this. There was only one, there's only one company on the planet that can do this. And without kind of glazing Google a little bit there, that they are the only company that can and the only company that will, unless somebody partners with chat GPT, like.
ChatGPT doesn't have anywhere near as many integrations as Google to your personal life and to your Gmail, your KeepNotes, your Maps, save spaces. Like, yeah, I was really, really impressed. The only thing I did want to see is we got a demo of...
There's a brand new feature being developed for Android Auto called Spotify Jam, I think it is. I don't know when that was announced. Getting to see that was cool, but we now need to see the equivalent with YouTube Music, and nobody could kind of tell me I understand that the YouTube team and the... The Android Auto team probably worked siloed about this. But yeah, if you could start adding other little integrations, then Android Auto, hey, it's going to be perfect. I think it could.
It could be one of Google's most powerful products in the next few years without even realizing it. Yeah, Gemini Live. I'm personally waiting for the keep integrations, the calendar, the tasks, the maps to come to Gemini Live on the phone. I'm looking forward to that experience being more actionable. So let's say other Gemini stuff. Gemini in Chrome is something I'm surprisingly using.
So it exists in the corner. They move the tab search button so that the Gemini Sparkle could go in the very top right corner. And I... What I'm using it for is less to explain what's on my page, but just as like one button access to Gemini wherever I am instead of going to a tab. I think that's a bit underrated. This version of Gemini and Chrome cannot open, cannot navigate the web for you yet. That's probably coming this year. But in the meantime, the utility I found from it is just...
having one tap floating window access to Gemini. And that's pretty good. Just saves you from switching to the browser tab and losing the context of what you're asking. on the current page so that's a nice small thing um let's see other gemini stuff yeah it's it's I think it's an interesting roadmap for the rest of the year. We'll see what they do when the next pixel comes out. But yeah, it's Gemini.
I think that's the big takeaway. I think I want to touch upon Android a little bit in terms of the keynote. Again, I'll just say this again. If everything they announced at the Android show a week previously, the Material Tree Expressive stuff, the Wear OS 6 stuff, if that was announced during last week's keynote,
I think that would have been so impressive. One of the best Android showings in years. Keeping it time on the big stage, all that. I feel like they could, I know the keynote was like bordering two hours already. But I feel like they could have condensed that to 10 minutes, put it in front of the wireless glass out of the Android XR glasses. And I think that would have been a really good showing that showed how Android was...
on the same scale as Gemini, on the same scale as search. So food for thought for Google. Yeah, no, I think it's a good point. I kind of like the idea of... the android show breaking off though and being its own thing i think um there's a lot of people i don't understand that android and and gemini are intrinsically linked now and they're going to be one and the same at some point i'd imagine um
I feel like having a separate Android show is kind of good for those that maybe don't necessarily care too much about the intricacies of AI. I think you get your kind of your top level stuff that you care about and you might utilize.
I wonder how that forms the strategy around Pixel, Android being its own thing, the Android show effectively. Or like you say, it could have just been a scheduling thing. I'm intrigued to see how it all... pans out in the long term but I mean from from anyone out there listening I think you can probably tell us that what you think do you think that
that Android should be back at IO. I feel like it feels weird and it's not there, but I think in terms of like workload and all of the stuff that you want to cover, I think having a bit of separation is kind of nice. And I think that probably comes across a bit more readily than that.
You can kind of prepare for these things. I think if it was a three-hour keynote and we had all that stuff, it'd be like, oh, wow, what the hell? How the hell? We're going to have to get Gemini to summarize this for us. And then, yeah, I don't know. I'm really... pleasantly surprised, I think. Getting that QPR beta as well at IO was huge. I think we've speculated about it for ages and I think I said I could see them.
potentially launching the full release. But I do think, okay, I'm going to try and score a dodgy win here because we kind of agree, I guess, that QPR One is the real Android 16. And I think... Anyone else out there probably agrees. So getting to see that at IO, although it was a long, stressful event, was nice. I think a lot of people have been very happy with it, and I think it's the update that everybody wants.
I guess it kind of links with something that happened in the last couple of days is that Samsung have just released their version of their Android 16 preview. To me, that probably screams that... Everyone else is on board now. If Google's helping Samsung fire that out the door after the delays of One UI 7, which is fantastic, then it's going to be sooner than later that we get that.
first taste, I guess, the vanilla Android 16. I'm going to call it Android 15.5, Android 15.5 before the big dog QPR one. Yeah, we'll probably see that in the next couple of weeks, right, I guess, based upon that. I haven't really had the chance to dive into One UI 8 and it's not available on my phone, but what's the...
Design the same? Design is the same, yeah. Some app updates. It's just more of the good stuff of One UI 7, which I've championed for a while now. I think it's fantastic. There's a few little things that I think you've... will improve certain things like routines. There's quite a few powerful features in there. Will I, will I utilize all of them? Probably not.
It kind of is what it is. I feel like we're all awaiting a bigger update and Samsung have done theirs already. They got ahead of Google with Android 15 and done a big change in visuals. Same with One UI. Same with OxygenOS, sorry. And I think it's now Google's turn, I guess, to have the limelight later on in the year when that QPR One update comes up. I'm really excited to see how that runs on Pixel 10. I mean, I guess we're all excited for Pixel 10, right?
Yeah, One UI 8, more of the good stuff, more of the same. They've just really killed it last few years, Samsung, I think. Their updates, they've really listened, I think. And I'm glad that Google is doing something similar this time around. hey, if they're going to do big updates like this every four years and really, really go for it, then I'm all for it, to be honest. I'm all for it. So I think just to round out the show, any of you asked, any new things you found that Android 16 QPR won?
I think my quick settings have settled down. I've customized that. I decreased the size of the default clock on the lock screen. Yeah, I think I like that I can fit, let's see, three more quick settings when I swipe down on the notification shade. I like that. Definitely getting the most out of that. But yeah, I think my customization stuff has stabilized in the past week.
How about you? What's your phone looking like? I have been used, I think my favorite, this is going to sound really, really good, really lame. I really like the fact that I can tap Bluetooth and turn it off. When I was flying, when I flew back, I had my SIM in the 9 Pro.
Watching films on the, not 9 Pro, 9 Pro Fold, sorry. Watching a few films and stuff and having stuff side by side and then being able to turn off Bluetooth when somebody came to talk to me and then turn it back on was like, that sounds ridiculous, but.
Having not had that for a while, you forget how useful it is. I love the utility of the new quick settings. I am definitely a proponent of a separate... notifications and settings i quite i kind of like the idea of the split yeah i like the split nature of it i think i think it's good i want to see that now
That's madness. I've become accustomed to it with OxygenOS and One UI again, so yeah. First thing I turned off. This is the first time, I think, in a while. And this is why I'm glad that Google's gone this route, is... I was so, I think I've, and this, this is almost like therapy to get a big update. I think I was getting so bored a little bit with.
with what Google was doing with their previous updates that I wanted these big changes. So even just seeing visual differences is ace. I like, I kind of hated the battery widget, battery pill in the state of spicy battery pill. I absolutely hated it at first, but now I've got to be... I'm kind of on board with it. I'm just whatever about ambivalent. I've gotten used to all the changes so that if that's a week after updating, everything feels normal. That's how long it takes.
I want to ask you what you think of the system font before we kind of shoot off, because I think I was critical of it. I was very Comic Sansy, and I know that any designers out there will be like, that is like heresy. You can't say that, but... That's what I thought initially. I'm sorry. Yeah, it's fine. I feel like there's some bugs in terms of like color that they need to handle. That's my big thing about like as the beta one and I guess in the grand scheme.
If those are your biggest issues, the beta one could be worse. There's no performance issues for me. Again, this has been my daily driver, my 9A. I usually hold off on putting anything stable, anything beta on my daily driver, but this has been perfectly fine. Google Wallet works, et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, I'm ready. I can't wait for the bug fixes. I can't wait for the optimizations in the coming months, two months, three months. But yeah, I think that's it so far.
I think they've done a fantastic job so far already, and you don't normally see that with an initial beta, especially with a QPR like this. We're not used to these big changes in a QPR release. We're used to those like minor. refinements and this is uh this is a refinement of a major it's a major refinement isn't it so these things have no meaning anymore but whatever no meaning and i think that kind of sums it up i think uh
We've had a busy couple of weeks and it's only going to get busier if we'd see that initial Android 16 release. So yeah, stick around. It's been a pleasure to have... uh, our time with you. And it's a shame we're not in the same room again this time. Maybe, uh, maybe we can sort that out in time for me by Google. Um, but yeah, thanks guys for listening. And, uh, yeah, we'll, we'll catch you in the next one. Bye.