Pivot Podcast

Over the past few years, church leaders have been forced to respond to several global crises in the blink of an eye. In a moment with little information and lots of uncertainty, churches reinvented nearly every aspect of church. Season 5 of the Pivot podcast explores the changing landscape of the church. Our co-hosts will dig into difficult questions that faith leaders are asking now, and provide an understanding of the deeper cultural shifts that account for the unraveling of inherited models of church. What are the four key pivots that today's church must make? New episodes post weekly on Thursdays.

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Episodes

Episode 14: Leading in Liminal Space

Tending the mission and vision of a congregation is still important during a pandemic. How do we do that? Pastor Mike Carlson, of St. Andrew's Lutheran Church, joins Louise and Terri to explore this and more in today's episode. Join the conversation with the hosts by joining this free community space in the Faith+Lead Learning Lab Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision...

Feb 15, 2021•28 min

Episode 13: Embracing What's New

Welcome to season 2. Join Terri Elton from Luther Seminary and Louise Johnson from LEAD as they discuss where we find ourselves now. We continue to live in a liminal space, but even amidst the uncertainty, new possibilities and connections are happening. Join the conversation with the hosts by joining this free community space in the Faith+Lead Learning Lab Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision...

Feb 08, 2021•21 min

Episode 12: Reflections and Learning

As church leaders, the pandemic has been and is causing us to rethink so much. Reflect with us on these changes, specifically around community, capacity, and competency. Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision

Sep 02, 2020•44 min

Episode 11: Promising Innovation

Christian innovation is different than secular innovation, but what makes it unique? Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision

Aug 25, 2020•35 min

Episode 10: Creating Conditions

Like the times our GPS isn't able to reroute us, the things we were doing before are no longer working. Where is the church going now? For more, listen to this conversation about creating conditions. Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision

Aug 18, 2020•38 min

Episode 9: Permanent Whitewater

Leading right now is like navigating through relentless whitewater rapids. If you are questioning everything right now, you are not alone. Today's episode features this resource: Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps: How to Thrive in Complexity by Jennifer Garvey Berger. Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision

Aug 04, 2020•31 min

Episode 8: Our New Home

It's time to begin to build sustainable patterns for this time we are living in. Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision

Jul 28, 2020•25 min

Episode 7: Exhausted in the Wilderness

Pastors and church leaders are experiencing fatigue and exhaustion. Join us for a conversation on the realities facing pastors now. Resources Journeying in the Wilderness The Sabbath Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision...

Jul 21, 2020•21 min

Episode 6: Love Your Neighbor Part 2

A continuing conversation about loving our neighbors in online community. Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision

Jul 17, 2020•33 min

Episode 5: Love Your Neighbor Part 1

Who is your neighbor on Zoom? When community includes online spaces, we are called to love our neighbors in both familiar and new ways. Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision

Jun 30, 2020•25 min

Episode 4: Community

Episode Resource Beyond the Screen by Andrew Zirschky https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Screen-Ministry-Connected-Generation/dp/1501810073#ace-g3379618840 Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision

Jun 16, 2020•24 min

Episode 3: Lament

Lament is a language that changes how we communicate with God. Lament powerfully expresses complex feelings and situations. Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision

Jun 09, 2020•24 min

Episode 2a: Loss and George Floyd

Links: Jesus Wept — Online Worship Slideshow Teesha Hadra and John Hambrick Black & White: Disrupting Racism One Relationship at a Time (Abingdon, 2018) An interview with Teesha & John An article-length summary of Teesha's and John's book Andre Henry Interview on Systemic Racism Article on "Making the Invisible Visible" Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision...

Jun 06, 2020•26 min

Episode 2: Loss

The basic contours of what it means to do ministry are gone. Our congregations miss much of community life. How do we engage the various layers of loss. Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision

Jun 02, 2020•24 min

Episode 1: Pivot

What does it mean to pivot? How can Christian leaders help their congregations and organizations respond to times of chaos and crisis–faithfully and effectively? Mentioned in this episode: Stepping Up to Supervision

May 27, 2020•22 min

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