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Phishy Business

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Ready to change how you think about cybersecurity? Every other week, Mimecast’s Brian Pinnock and Alice Jeffrey are joined by a special guest for tales of risk, reward and just a dash of ridiculousness. Whether it’s a tech expert who is not your average CIO or an expert from a field you wouldn’t expect, we’ll be exploring the lesser seen side of cybersecurity – to learn how we can all improve in the fight to stay safe.
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Episodes

Exposing Shortcomings in Cybersecurity Leadership and why we need more Dana Scullys

In this episode of Phishy Business, we talk about the improper mindset of not thinking about security until after you have been breached, and some of the major problems this can cause. We do this through the lens of SIEM, ethical hacking, and a focus on the need for leadership in teaching organizations how to be secure. We also discuss how some IT leaders try to keep the results of pen testing quiet. Our special guest is Dez Rock, CEO of SIEMonster. After dropping out of law school, Dez became a...

Aug 29, 202334 min

Built-In Bias: Existing Real-World Inequality in AI and Other Technology

In this episode of Phishy Business, we talk about various important discussions around AI, including the concerning issue of built-in bias and stereotypes. Imagine AI thinking that all doctors must be male, and all nurses must be female? Well, according to ChatGPT, they are. Our special guest is Ivana Bartoletti, Global Privacy Officer at Wipro. Ivana has a human rights background and is an internationally recognized thought leader in privacy, data protection, and responsible technology. She’s a...

Aug 15, 202335 min

Protecting Shoes: Balancing Cybersecurity Strategy and Business Success at Dr Martens

In this episode of Phishy Business, we talk about how today's cybersecurity strategy needs to focus on risk while still allowing smooth operation of the business. We also discuss how cybersecurity must involve the board so that business goals and cyber strategy align. Our special guest is Theo Botha, Global Information Security Officer at Dr. Martens. Theo is responsible for protecting the Dr. Martens brand, one of the most iconic in the world. Theo began his career in physical security which ev...

Aug 01, 202332 min

CIS Roundtable – Keeping the Public Sector Secure

In this episode of Phishy Business, we feature a roundtable discussion with three members from the Center for Internet Security . Mimecast CMO Norman Guadagno hosts this wide-ranging discussion that covers many topics including cybersecurity trends in the public sector and why information sharing is essential to keeping our connected world safe. Our special guests are Sean Atkinson, CISO, Randy Rose, CIS Sr. Director of Security Operations and Intelligence & Karen Sorady, VP of MS-ISAC Membe...

Jul 18, 202336 min

What has ESG got to do with Cybersecurity?

In this episode of Phishy Business, we talk about environmental, social, and governance, commonly known throughout the corporate world as ESG, and how cybersecurity fits into corporate sustainability. Our special guest is Garyn Rapson who is a partner and the head of ESG at African law firm Webber Wentzel. Garyn manages a team of nine lawyers that advise clients on how to be more sustainable organizations. While ESG is complicated and always evolving, Garyn helps clients break through the comple...

Jul 04, 202335 min

CIOs Should think like Entrepreneurs on Dragon’s Den

In this episode of Phishy Business, we talk about some of the cybersecurity trends and worries facing today’s global CIOs. Our special guest is Martin Wallgren who is the CIO of global logistics and shipping company, Gulf Agency Company, headquartered in Dubai. Martin says he is an entrepreneurial tech nerd with a business mindset who does business development with a touch of technology. He likes to emphasize the CIO’s business role even though he is passionate about both business and technology...

Jun 20, 202333 min

Proud Hackers: Understanding Criminal Minds

In this episode of Phishy Business, we talk about the psychology behind crime, particularly cybercrime and white-collar crime. We delve into the reasons why most cybercriminals are roaming free and don’t get caught, yet deep down, really want to tell their story. Our special guest is Mark T. Hoffmann , a crime and intelligence analyst and business psychologist. Mark specializes in behavioral and cyber profiling and has conducted interviews with criminals, psychopaths, and hackers to understand t...

Jun 06, 202334 min

Keeping Threats ‘At-Bay’ – Normalizing Cyber Insurance as Part of Business

In this episode of Phishy Business, we bring you a special recording from the show floor at RSA Conference. Hosted by Mimecast’s CMO Norman Guadagno, this episode delves into cyber insurance and how managing risk has had to adapt to the modern digital economy. You’ll learn exactly what cyber insurance is, why it’s important and how insurers should be trusted partners to organizations looking to better protect themselves from cyberattacks. Our special guests are Tara Bodden, Head of Claims and Ge...

May 23, 202327 min

RSAC Part 2: CISO trends + thinking differently about tradeshows

In part two of this special RSA episode Mimecast CMO, Norman Guadagno, interviews another four guests live from the conference show floor. We talk about how cybersecurity has changed over the years, bringing more diversity to the industry and how exactly one becomes a CISO. Our guests for part two: Julian Waits, SVP business development at Rapid7 (:54 – 11:44), Kayla Williams, CISO at Devo (12:02 – 23:22), Tyler Warren, deputy CISO at Prologis (23:39 – 33:52) and Josh Copeland, cybersecurity dir...

May 11, 202344 min

ChatGPT buzz + much more from the RSAC show floor

In this episode of Phishy Business, Mimecast CMO and guest host Norman Guadagno, chats to four different people at this year’s RSA Conference in San Francisco. Our guests were interviewed in our very own podcast recording studio at the Mimecast booth. In part one of this two-part episode, we learn more about our guests' roles, their companies, and the cool things they're working on. We also discuss what was trending at this year’s show and how the conference has evolved over the years. Did we me...

May 09, 202352 min

Using Criminal Skills for Good - a Memoir of a Burglar for Hire

In this episode of Phishy Business, we discuss social engineering, the professional con game of burglary for hire, and different aspects of how this very specialized skill can impact organizations and individuals. Our special guest is Jenny Radcliffe, who was our very first interview on the podcast and made a return appearance in our episode on job hacking . Jenny is well known for being able to get in anywhere and past anyone. She has turned a schooling in the art of breaking and entering durin...

Apr 25, 202334 min

It’s Time to Retire the Risk Management Profession

In this episode of Phishy Business, we discuss some important ways to think about and look at risk and how its more about making decisions than assessing threats. Our special guest is Stefan Gershater, Director of Risk at Burberry. Stefan is a risk management expert, a biochemist, and a navy veteran. Stefan says that as a risk expert, he tries to make sense of uncertainty, which means he thinks a lot about how everyday decisions impact people and organizations. Stefan feels that when defining “r...

Apr 11, 202335 minSeason 5Ep. 3

Why Security Professionals Should Consider Career Coaching

In this episode of Phishy Business, we discuss career coaching, looking at what it is, and how it can benefit all professionals, including those in the cybersecurity space. We delve into the differences between coaching and mentoring and discuss what to expect when working with a career coach. Our special guests are executive coach and mentor Fiona Anderson, and Dr. Kiri Addison, Senior Product Manager at Mimecast. Fiona is a change catalyst who works with professionals from all sectors with a p...

Mar 28, 202332 minSeason 5Ep. 2

Scary Smart AI? Or the Potential to Be a Force for Good?

In this episode of Phishy Business, we discuss what can be a very scary side of AI – when bots start thinking for themselves. We delve into some examples of this actually happening, but also look at the good AI is providing humankind. Our special guest is Mo Gawdat, former chief business officer at Google X and bestselling author of the books Solve for Happy and Scary Smart . Mo describes himself as having two lives – a first life as a “maker” who coded, built robots, and developed technology, a...

Mar 14, 202345 minSeason 5Ep. 1

Work Inspired – What’s Possible in Shaping Corporate Culture

In this episode of Phishy Business, we discuss the idea of Work Inspired, a corporate culture where employees all love to work because it turns out that happy employees are very good for business. Our special guest is Aron Ain, award-winning, retired CEO of UKG, formerly known as Kronos. Aron now serves as Executive Chair of the UKG Board of Directors and is also the author of Work Inspired , a book that depicts an inspiring example of what’s possible in shaping corporate culture. Aron transform...

Feb 21, 202325 minSeason 4Ep. 12

Cyber Extortion – The Next Evolution of Ransomware

In this episode of Phishy Business, we discuss the very definition of ransomware and how it can be an overused and underdefined concept. We also take a closer look at the world of threat research. Our special guest is former professional hacker Charl van der Walt, Head of Security Research at Orange CyberDefense, who now spends his time asking and answering the important questions around cybersecurity, specifically those that pertain to ransomware. Charl believes we need to move beyond the term ...

Feb 07, 202334 minSeason 4Ep. 11

Marketing as Customer Experience – Be an Active Listener

In this episode of Phishy Business, we discuss how cybersecurity marketing, sales, and support are for the most part inadequate, and how there can be a big disconnect between how marketers market and how technology professionals buy. We talk more about how marketing should consider the customer experience and how marketing departments should not only market their products and services but should also be active listeners and understand what their buyers need and want. Our special guest is cyberse...

Jan 24, 202333 minSeason 4Ep. 10

Cybermindz - Bonus Episode

In this bonus episode of Phishy Business, we continue to recognize the value of the work of cybersecurity professionals. Join us as Peter Coroneos, Founder and Executive Chairman of Cybermindz.org, takes us through a 10-minute meditation aimed at lowering stress. This is a just a taste of the whole Cybermindz protocol, and worth a try!

Jan 16, 202312 minSeason 4Ep. 9

Cybermindz – Hope in a Burnt-Out Sector

In this episode of Phishy Business, we honor and recognize the value of the work of those professionals who spend their days defending people and organizations from cyberattacks by taking a close look at one of the biggest problems the industry faces today: worker burnout and the associated mental health issues. Join us as we discuss how while many of us say we are simply “fine” when someone asks how we are, we may, in fact, actually be suffering silently from stress and burn out. Our special gu...

Jan 10, 202330 minSeason 4Ep. 9

Criminals are like water, adapting to new circumstances

In this episode of Phishy Business, we discuss how criminals are like water because of how they flow, and adapt around obstacles and security measures, always looking for a way in no matter what security professionals put in their way. You’ll learn more about how well-thought-out cybersecurity strategies, tools, and responses can be, especially in the military vs. the private sector, and, why this needs to be the case when protecting users from very fluid criminals. Our special guest is threat i...

Dec 13, 202235 minSeason 4Ep. 8

Risk, Risk, Risk…and Beer: What Keeps the Cyber C-Suite Up at Night

In this episode of Phishy Business, we find out everything you may have wanted to ask your CISO or CIO but were too afraid to ask. Two very experienced information technology leaders delve deeper into the roles they play in keeping their organizations safe while balancing the nos and yesses they deal in every day. You’ll learn a lot more about that it is like to be CISO or CIO and the challenges they face in their roles. Our special guests are Magnus Carling, CISO at Swedish shipping company Ste...

Nov 29, 202236 minSeason 4Ep. 7

Is Data the new Uranium?

In this episode of Phishy Business, we take a look at data, which some have called the new gold or the new oil and discuss why it really is something more like the new uranium because it has such a huge potential to impact society, just like uranium did in the 20th century. And just like uranium, data can be used for good, and for bad. Join us as we delve further into all things data – how it is collected, used, and what the consequences are when it is leaked. Our special guest is Glenn Wilkinso...

Nov 15, 202222 minSeason 4Ep. 6

Supercharging the AI tortoise

In this episode of Phishy Business, we take a look at AI. We talk on the fact that the stigma of AI running amok in Terminator-fashion is a myth we must dispel in the face of all the good AI can do in protecting the world - from cyberattacks to helping with climate change. We also talk about the other major challenges that AI can be used to solve globally in the next decade. Our special guests are Vilas S. Dhar, President of the Patrick J. McGovern Foundation, who was named a young global leader...

Nov 01, 202231 minSeason 4Ep. 5

Beyond Awareness Training: How to Improve User Behavior

In this episode of Phishy Business, we take a look at how cybersecurity awareness training needs to go beyond just having users sit through training, but in fact, has to work to change user behavior. Listen in to learn more about the importance of cybersecurity awareness training at organizations of all sizes across the globe and how, with today’s diverse and threatening security landscape, cybersecurity is the responsibility of everyone in the organization, not just security professionals. Our ...

Oct 04, 202234 minSeason 4Ep. 3

Shining a Light on Bots: The Good and the Bad

In this episode of Phishy Business, we take a look at bots. Listen in to learn more about what bots are, and what they do. Also, learn what can make them good…and what can make them bad. It would seem the answer lies within the intent of the person deploying them. Our special guests are Cyril Noel-Tagoe, Principal Security Researcher at Netacea, and our own Dr. Kiri Addison, Senior Product Manager at Mimecast. Cyril works to understand automated attacks to discover their aim and how to stop them...

Sep 20, 202230 minSeason 4Ep. 2

The Billion Dollar Cryptocurrency Scam

In this episode of Phishy Business, we take a look at what has been called the smartest and biggest scam of the 21st century, OneCoin, a cryptocurrency that brought in $4 billion in investments via multi-level marketing and proved to be nothing but a scheme that made one woman who is still on the run very rich. This wasn’t a backroom con, but in fact, was perpetrated by a woman whose adoring fans filled an arena two years after OneCoin’s founding, and whose con took money from millions of people...

Sep 06, 202231 minSeason 4Ep. 1

Closing the cybersecurity skills gap through education and opportunity

In this episode of Phishy Business, we take a look at the skills shortage being faced by IT departments when it comes to hiring cybersecurity experts and how the Absa Cybersecurity Academy is working with its partner, the Maharishi Institute, to assist in helping marginalized South African youth to become certified cybersecurity experts. Together, Absa and the Maharishi Institute are consistently working to develop a sustainable means to give youth the training they need to maintain careers and ...

Aug 09, 202233 minSeason 3Ep. 12

Actors, tabletop exercises, and insider threats

In this episode of Phishy Business, we take a look at cyber crisis exercises and insider threats. Our special guest is Lisa Forte, an expert on running cyber crisis exercises and training high-risk staff on insider threats and social engineering, who was named one of the top 30 female cybersecurity leaders by SC Magazine. Lisa works hard to simulate cybersecurity disasters for organizations in order to train them in how to deal with real-world cyberattacks. Lisa shares her insights on cyber cris...

Jul 26, 202231 minSeason 3Ep. 11

The Internet Tattoo Effect and common sense online safety

In this episode of Phishy Business, we take a look at ways for children and teens to stay safe while online. Our special guest is Emma Sadleir, a leading expert in social media law who educates individuals and organizations about the legal, disciplinary, and reputational risks of social media. Emma is also the co-author of Selfies, Sex, and Smartphones: A Teenager’s Online Survival Guide, which explains the legal pitfalls, hidden dangers, and future implications of what teens do, see, and post o...

Jul 12, 202234 minSeason 3Ep. 10

Advanced Persistent Threat Groups: Preparing Instead of Hoping

In this episode of Phishy Business, we take a look at advanced persistent threat groups, also known as APT Groups. Special guest Krijn de Mik, Incident Response and Intelligence Lead at Hunt & Hackett, where he specializes in investigations, forensic analysis, and tracking threat actors and threat actor groups, gives his insight on how organizations can protect themselves from APT Groups and their advanced cyberattacks. In ‘Advanced Persistent Threat Groups: Preparing Instead of Hoping’, we ...

Jun 28, 202225 minSeason 3Ep. 9
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