Perth Today with Simon Beaumont Podcast - Tuesday, 10 June 2025

You can everyone here until one o'clock today with Perth Today, I'm Simon Beaumont. Thanks to my mate and Colie Golly Peterson for filling in so admirably yesterday. The yes no went off yesterday. Do you think's got Morrison should hand back in his AC and I think it was overwhelmingly yes, or he shouldn't have received one in the first place. I guess to ours answered in a slightly different way. Thanks for listening in today. I'll have a yes no

Oh good morning, signmon lovely to be here with you.

Can we confirm that we've got some terminite action on the secret giant.

Look, we can look unfortunately did this hit her. Our much loved Lake Clifton giant is legless at the moment, and I know that sounds terrible, but look, it's actually a lovely story of community partnership that we have down here. But with the city of Manager working with our local mentioned group who conduct fortnightly checks in on our giants to see how they're going. And obviously, as the listeners, with no recycled wood out in our bush land, he

Sad, it's unsurprising. I mean, it's recycled wood, it's soft wood, it's something that a term might would be keen on.

I reckon absolutely, I'd say they would be loving that. But look, the men Shed were fantastic in identifying that. And so she's had her legs removed and she is closed at the moment, but we will have her back back in time for school holidays in about two weeks times, and the men Shed are helping with that work. So, you know, really lovely to have that partnership.

Yeah, that's good, well done to them, and I know. I think she was booked in for a SPA treatment about a month ago, but she has been closed for longer than expected. So how long until she's got her legs back and he's back in action.

We're hoping two weeks, so by school holidays is the plan. We're just giving her a really good pedicure. She's going to look beautiful when she's back there and be ready to welcome. And as you know she's been have all been so incredibly popular with community. I think in the first year we I think it's about over eighty six thousand visitors from outside the region in just the first year alone.

Yeah, that is they are fantastic. I think I read somewhere that maybe twenty twenty six, somehow or other, the schedule winds up. What does that actually mean? Do they get removed or do you are they handed over to you? What happens in twenty six.

Well, Thomas, so the life expectancy is about three to five years. And Thomas Danbo is very much of the view that they were made of recycled material and nature will take its course and you know, they will decay, and so you know, when we're doing maintenance to keep them going for as long as we can, but when they get to a point where they're no longer structurally found, we'll have.

To remove them.

Yeah, okay, so they do.

We're trying to keep that because they are so popular, Oh of course.

Yeah. Yeah, And I know there's a big volunteer sort of construction team that have been involved right from the start. And when that one was vandalized and burned, I know everyone was all hands to the wheel. So what will you do? Will you try and maintain them yourselves? There are an amazing attraction. What will you do if they do start to fall apart?

Yeah, the city has an ongoing maintenance plan and you know we're doing that all the time, just keeping them going as long as we can. But obviously, you know, when they do reach end of life, which was Thomas Dambo's desire, they will be no more. So that's you know, we'll keep that going for as long as we can.

And that's why that.

Partnership with the Menship is so so lovely, that the fact that they go out there every two weeks and check out and so we can treat things like turn nights.

Yeah, any concern for any of the other giants Caroline.

Noel.

I think that the men shared are out there fortnightly, so they're checking regularly, so you know, we are alerted early and that's the most important.

Thing part of the appeal of this. And Danbo himself is a recycler and a forager. We all know that. We will know that about him. Can you change the type of wood you use? Because I spoke to one of my carbon to makes about this and he said that type of wood is ice cream for termites.

Yes, I know it's too much. Look, that was that was Thomas Dambo's desire. I mean, he's the artist. Obviously he's aware of that. Are these guiants, he does have them across across the world. You know, he chose to use that because it was discarded, recycled good, knowing full well that they are vulnerable, and you know, there's an incredible amount of time that goes into building them and just random fact, I think it's over seven hundred and fifty.

Hours to make each one, yep, yep.

But you know he chooses to use recycled material and we have to respect that.

Yeah, So they do have a shelf life. That's that's part of the Thomas Dambo deal, isn't it. Thank you for talking to us today, Thank you for confirming and good luck. Hopefully she's back up and running and a viewable soon.

Thank you, Simon Lovely to stop here.

The mayor of the City of Mandra, Caroline Night there confirming that the Secret Giants has termites and well spotted by the men shed and look that I hadn't thought about that. That's news to me. Maybe I've completely missed that. But though the Mandra Giants after twenty twenty six will be no more, so get down and see them even during the winter months. I don't know how to pronounce this giant's name. I think it's I'm not it's the

Good a theo ah, good morning, sitement.

Good to talk to you. So this type of wood would be very attractive for the manager termite community, I would imagine.

So I'm not one hundred percent sure of the wood species.

Is it pine?

I think it's recycled pine.

I think yes, so it's very few pines have evolved resistance to terminio attacks because most pines is growing in cold, wet climates, so there's no urmit I think called wet climates,

And these.

Giants which I saw not long after the exhibition opened, and that's fantastic. Everyone should go see them. That particular one is placed in a forest. Us is highter, I think is how you say the name and is a name and heighter means hut or cavern, and so it's in forest which is stilled with termites, so there would be a lot of termites around and it would only just be a matter of time till they find the wood, and because there's no resistance, it would be eaten quite happily.

It is highter a lot that theo thank you things for helping us out there, and would they be would the termites in that forest where she is, would they be more active in the cooler months or you're saying the summer months, are you?

Yes?

So they rely on like all insects, they rely on the weather, the temperature around them. They're not cold blooded creatures. They can generate heat in their own nest when there's lots of them all together, but when they leave the nest and go foraging, they rely on the external temperatures and so it's cold, they get cold. They can't move very much. So you tend to get a peak in urmide activity through the warmer months and are much lower

Are pretty high well, and a number of questions coming through from our listeners on our talk back line on our text line for you is and it's news to me that the giants might not be around in twenty twenty seven. I didn't know that. I hope we can do something. Is it possible to use another type of wood that will be more resistant to termites? I mean the city of Mandre will probably have to strike a

So you can use hardwoods that come from areas where there's a lot of termite activity, So famously in Australia, in Southwest Australia, there's jarra which has higher levels of termite resistance, but even more one do and turret has higher levels of resistance than jarra. But there's a variety of tropical hardwoods that could be used. But there's another issue that comes along, and that's wood rot fungus. So most people have heard about wood rot fungi. They can

For the termites.

The first issue perfect still going to be how to stop the moisture, and then once you can do that, then you can go on to think about how you stop the termites up.

All right, as you say, probably not unexpected down there in the Lake Clifton forest that she has been has been a target. But yeah, Nanca, so I didn't I didn't realize they were you know, they had a shelf life the comprehensive. Thank you for talking to us at six PR. Good on you.

It's my please assignment. Have a good day.

Yeah you too, Associate Professor Theo Evans. I've got a mate who is buying a house at the moment, and still you know you have to get a termini inspection. It's still it's part of our it's part of our vernacular, it's part of our lifestyle, it's part of our construction industry. You still need to get a termite inspection before you buy a house, right, so it is all part of it. Wonderuble three eight two. Yeah, happy to talk to about

Yeah, yeah, I do a little bit. So we're using a new product that's coming from the Netherlands. It's initially a sustainable pine which has been treated. It's called a koya, which has been treated with a non toxic natural product which is kept very secret. No one seems to know what it is. But it's used a lot for decking, for joinery, staircases and at the moment because it's a.

Substitute for jara.

You know, you used to get a lot of boardwalks and that made out of jarra. Now this product's used. We've machine a lot of it and it has a lifespan of guarantee of a lifespan of wood rot terms for fifty years. So that's that's the new product that's we tend to be using at the moment.

So and what is it is it? Is it like if you went down and down to mand r could you could you paint it on the giant's feet? What does it look like? Yeah, yeah, yeah you could.

Yeah you could use it. Yeah, I definitely could use it to make Yeah, you definitely could use it for that and the last fifty years. Being that it's a pine. Here in Australia, Western Australia we use the arsenic and lo osp treated pine, which is really a non non environmental product. But with this new product coming from the Netherlands, the treatment is guaranteed.

To be not.

Just not destroyed for for the environment, for trees, for animals, animals constew it and nothing will happen. So yeah, okay, can I just can I just say just one quick simon if you mate, we put we put timber out on our verge just a bit of a serious now, we put timber out on our verge for a lot of pensioners and down and out people for their firewood. That's the last couple of weeks I've had someone pinching out crates and bags, just taking them more, And I

Yeah, all right, thanks mate. Yeah, so that these are the containers that Jeff Jeff's business put timber out for people to grab. One double three two is the phone number. Yeah, Bob from Bill bullwinklekodo Bob, Sorry, Simon, but I'm a no watching the deterioration of traditional values is sad. These values with a cornerstone in society. It's a worry. So Bob,

Simon's I ever thought you were joking when you said you were a years person.

I am not.

You, and I agree on just about almost everything when you've come out with that thought as joking. But I don't like being a negative person at all. But I was brought up in Australia, Western Australia when it was fabulous. My parents never ever locked our doors and that was that was in victim. You know, somebody has has their doors unlocked now that they've got to be a damn good fighter or have some something good behind the front door.

That's so, that's a that's a good KPI, Bill, you know, having a lock our cars and our houses, that's a I understand that. I think there's probably still some place in the country we don't have to do it, Bill. But yeah, well mate, keep listening and hopefully we can continue to agree and disagree on stuff. How old are you, Bill?

A young eighty two?

All right, so you've seen a bit of seen a bit of action.

I'm still yeah, well i've I've don't know. You played sport more often than not. And it wasn't long ago that I still water skiing.

Yep.

One of my friends dragged me. He started off slowly and dragged me along slowly, and I got worn out. He's not a friend anymore.

But you don't sound a spot.

No.

Well, your show is really good, and they say it's I pay a lot of attention to it, and that's what I'm saying. It's for a pom. You a really good guy. It's just amazing. I met an irishman yesterday and h he's a really he's a really really interesting guy. And I might have some really good news for you in another six months time. Yeah right, yeah, and which will be really interesting for you.

Yeah, let me know. Bill. You know where we are. Bill always you can always ring And I am up, mate, hang in.

I'm all right.

And I just feel sorry for the kids these days, and and the girls. There's too many girls now and we need more more males born. I've got five granddaughters and I think crops are no good males around it.

All right, matey, good to talk to you Bill. Thanks mate. Billy's Bill's not not optimistic about the Australia's future because we have to lock our doors. And you know, I know what he means. That's a sense of a sense of loss of security, loss, you know, some lawlessness. But it's probably I'm not meaning to be glib here, but that's a worldwide thing, isn't it. That's part of a part of what we see worldwide. But Bill's not optimistic. Habit to take your calls one double three eight to

I would just let you know there's a police cars smashed into civilians car on a corner of Patterson and Reid Road in Rockingham. Oh no, yeah, so there's behind this behold, there's police on the scene. But it looks like everyone's out of the cars. But the front of the cop cars pretty smashed up. They've planned right in the middle of the B pillar on the on the driver's side.

Yeah, okay, anybody anybody hurt? Turning from what you can see.

I just drove. Looked like everyone's down the vehicles, so I don't think anyone's heart But yeah, I did.

A pretty good job.

Yeah. That's a busy intersection too, mate, isn't it this time of road, this time of day. Thanks Tony, thank you for letting us know. He's hoping everyone's all right. One double three aged two will come back. Craig, stay there, mate, we'll have a chat to you in just a second. We want to talk about the Water Corporation. I know Olie spoke about the overflowing sewerage issues in some of

Absolutely optimistic. I couldn't be more optimistic, Simon fantastic.

And why why so.

Is the best country in the world and I feel blessed to be here.

That's all right, thank you, Veronica. She's an emphatic Yes. We'll put you in the yes column. You heard Oli yesterday, feel it. He was well, he was more than filling in. He was just came in off the bench in magnificent for Molly yesterday on this show and he spoke about the sewerage leaks through the southern suburb. Shane Lover has just put out a statement saying this water, apparently this sewerage water has gone into the Swan River. It's contaminated

Yeah, my son sent me a message last night about five pm to say that the water is off in Port Dennison and Dongra and all the surrounding suburbs Bonnyfield and Springfield. According to the Great Vine up there, the main pipe water supply pipe to the town has burst and watercopper in the process of fixing it. Estimated about midday to day to be repaired.

So where to in the absence of ning Kraige, where do dong Report, Dennison and those places get their water from? Is it dam water?

I know it's a boarfield, okay, I get it from a ball field. It's not part of the I don't think it's connected to the metro area supply to a separate, separate supply okay.

And went off at three o'clock yesterday's and still not back on as.

Of a couple of minutes ago. Yes, still not back on.

Yeah, okay, And it's definitely and there's definitely you know you do in some of those country towns like busso there's bustles and water and these kind of authorities. Is it definitely Watercourt Craig.

Yes, there's definitely Watercorp up there.

Yeah. All right mate, thanks letting us know. We'll follow it up, Thank you, Craig. Yes, so Shane, yeah, I mean different issue obviously, sewage and waste all are different to water supply. I think Shane Love is making the point today.

You know, we've.

Got in a pretty healthy situation budget wise here in w A, and critical infrastructure like sewerage is shouldn't be leaking into the Swan River, shouldn't be made in suburban streets and in houses, and Shane saying the government and Water Court must provide answers. It's a serious public health and environmental risk, says Shane Love by a correspondence today. One of our listeners from Peters is Tony Tuckknott won the w A speed Card Championship with Clermont's Speedway. I

So i'mon all well made. I'm a big yes. I don't know what's wrong with these people.

I thought you would be.

May we've been through maybe we've been through two World wars. Appearents have been through a depression.

Off.

The stadium's packed every week in, the cricket's packed every week. In You get in a vehicle and drive from here to Kratha and you'll see billions of dollars of full and boats and there not all gray and omads, and the pubs are pretty well packed. So I really can't I really can't see where these people are coming from. I agree with the numpty, but you people have voted for him.

Well mate, I as I say to Jacko each three weeks. You can still buy three bags of ice for twelve bucks when you've got.

I used to try and I try to make me ownst and I forgot the recipe.

All right, mate, let's get serious now. You, as I mentioned in the in the intro, you've been a lot, You've done a lot of security and dignatory protection. Pope John Paul, the second Queen Elizabeth roy or the royal family. Who are some of the others, mate.

But I think I mentioned me in Paisley Friando Touchman, President of Croatia, President of Ireland, Mary Robinson. Well, I shouldn't say this, but I really fell in love with that lady. What an absolutely terrific person. And for those who don't know, are google her and she's probably one

And then I think I remember the acronym party, I suspect, then hippie and transit. I do remember that back back in the day, one of the you mentioned Frojoe Tujum and the president of Croatia, and that that was one of your really big ones, wasn't it.

That was very very scary. That was very very scary because we'd had the first of the Balkan which affected a significant number of people here in Western Australia. You mentioned Jacko before you know, we got very very proactive and used to go to all the Spearweddal Maddanak and all the Croats and then the clubs and and try to get in and establish a rapport. And one incident you wouldn't believe this. I've only just remembered this as

First ball to prove vest his main bodyguard.

Yeah. And I don't want your listeners to laugh. Don't think of what you see on the television.

Now.

This was actually think of a three piece suit. This was an actual vest and you couldn't move in it. It was like like you breake in a leg and they put plaster of Paris on you. So I was like, I was like a turtle, mate. I just had to head in two arms sticking out and but and I looked like Herman Munster and at the top half of

Wow.

And there was a circle, circle of men at the table. One bloke was incredibly distraught and they took me and or John and I into the room with him. And several months before his wife and three children had been executed and beheaded in front of him over in the Balkans. And I'll tell.

You what, I think, that's the that's the issue for me. It wasn't that. It wasn't that long ago, was it parking? And I guess you know, here we are living over here in our part of the world, and that was happening in modern society. The atrocities were horrific, weren't they.

Oh Gore terrible, And I mean there's been a number of movies and documentaries made, and I think there was one more criminal serving, more criminal charged. I think we're talking nineteen nineties, just off the top of the head. And to see what people could do to each other. There was ethnic cleansing, there was whatever. And here we had the enemy of a number of people in our community coming into our midst and it was very, very volatile and very very scary. It was probably he was

I didn't I can't remember this. It's not often, you know, when you and I talk, I've either missed something or can't remember. But the French Consulate in Perth was five mon party. I didn't realize that.

It was made. It was an honor console. It up in West Perth. The tuturemen was coming in about two pm and about half past three in the morning my phone home phone pager went off and urgent, so I rung the headquarters duty officer and they said there's a fire bombing. I took a boy myself to go up there.

Such was the intensity. Parky will come back in just a moment. We saw a news reporter hit by rubber bullet yesterday in struck by a rubber bullet inadvertently, I think as part of the riots in LA will come back, Parky. I'll talk to you about that because I think I reckon. I had a fair bit to do it with some of those non lethal means that I were used and deployed by the police back in the day. Stay listening Dave Parkinson's with us. This is true Detective our fortnightly segment.

My daughter went on it yesterday. And the best thing is, Simon, you can actually move in Carlisle Heights now, You've actually got a streak that you can actually drive on. But it is absolutely tremendous. It is really, really tremendous what has been done.

Yeah, right, yesterday yesterday we saw one of the nine reporters in the Thicker Things in la and are struck by a rubber bullet. I'm not quite sure how to explain it either way, struck in the leg by a rubber bullet. Laurence to Mazzy, you had a bit to do with some of those non lethal options when they introduced the WA police back in the day.

It was interesting, Simon, the taser, the pepper spray, the bean bag round beyond netgun, it didn't work too well. I was the project owner of when they decided to introduce pepper spray. I was called up and they said can we trial it? So my inspector Dennis Collinson from the Tactical Response Group. Dennis took control of that, but I was the project owner. The tases were very, very interesting.

Did it work on new party? I have heard you over the over the time that I've been here. Some some people tasers simply don't work on them, do they?

Yes? But not often. I was dropped, mate, I went down and there's a couple of SAS soldiers with me and they went down one incident of oh yeah, I will There was a horrendous attack on a nurse in Swan District's hospital quite a few years ago and she suffered horrendous injuries and whatever. The offender that attacked her was a massive, massive, massive big man, and my guys hitt him about three or four times with the taser

Do we still have main backgrounds and rubber bullets here in per party.

I'm not sure about the rubber bullets and you know me, I won't comment on anything that I'm not sure of, but bean bag rounds they were certainly using him at one time and they are a tremendous asset to you know, you'd rather get hit with one of them than the

Yeah, this is related and talking to day Parkings and everybody. Former Superintendent Dignitary Protection detective street copy. He's done at all. This is true detective our segment. For the people who are corresponding with who haven't heard with it before. We talked to part every fortnight. We've talked to Forbid in

It is Simon.

And look, I can go right back to before I joined the job, and that was stood in November seventy five, and then out of Academy seventy six. I look at Lockridge. Now, I had families, a couple of sisters living there back probably nineteen seventy four or whatever, and I was quite horrified at the concept. Then there was Lockridge, Brownly Towers, Giruine,

Well.

Between her and myself, we'd made nearly over one hundred calls to his near Department of Communities on that And I remember on the morning show on six hour, I rang in and I was just bloody rapable. I had to talk to someone because I really was in a killing mood, and Troy Buzzwell. I called him out and give Buzzwell his due. He came out to our house and he said, well, what do we do? So I sat down in about five minutes flat and drew up what I thought was a good document, the three strikes

Yeah right, Parky, as you always could talk to you all day. The Alien, one of our listeners, says Parky is a great rack on tour and has experienced some pretty incredible and interesting stuff in his time. If he remains optimistic about Australia's future, then week as it can as well thanks, Hailey. We'll leave it at that. Hey Parky, it's we're going alright, I think.

Yeah, Well I hope so, mate. I mean if people have had enough, they'll get on there and say it. And I've always learned many many years you can only play some of the people some you and know I've got to be aware of that.

Yeah, it's too right, Thank you mate, Thanks for the chat.

Have a good nut.

Thanks Simon, See you mate. Dave Parkinson true detective. He'll be back in a couple of weeks time. We are taking a poll today. Are you optimistic about Australia's future? The yeses are forty five and the nose eighty will come back in just a Moment's twenty seven and a half minutes to eleven o'clock. Hope you enjoyed that.

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Are you optimistic about Australia's future? As we sit here and look at the monitors here in our studio at six PR, the Prime Minister of Australia is addressing the National Press Club and he is outlining his plan for this term of government for his team, the labor team. So we're asking the question are you optimistic? Yes, the forty five and the NOSA eighty. Steve has texted us I'm going to say yes, even though I just paid eleven dollars fifty for a beef and gravy role in

Simon, Well, I'm certainly pessimistic about a linter gas. I don't know if other your listeners are aware, but I've just had notification they found seven different ways to increase charges. The supply charge has gone up, the usage charge has gone up. The account service fees have gone up from a daily charge of eight cents to twenty two cents, that's eight to twenty two cents. Overdue payments are going

Well we so some of those are just just planned out overheads, fixed overheads.

Yeah.

And the paper well a paper bill that's going to cost you a dollar seventy five. So a lot of years ago they said our pensioners were exempt from a paperless bill charge. But it seems as if that's somehow that's crept in and they're going to charge it out. But the killer there was the account service fees going up. My eight cents to twenty two cents a day.

Yeah, that's a lot. That is a lot.

I've never worked out. I've never worked out what the account service fees are. Is that an administration fee?

I guess does somebody just look.

At that every day? No, the bill gets spat out by the computer. So I'm going to have lost to know what that account service fee. You'd be interesting for them to say to justify one an account service fee is and why it's gone up from eight cents to twenty two cents a day.

Yeah, Richard, I don't know. And I think you can draw a comparison with Telstra as well, orbeit not a government utility. Telstra' fees have gone up heaps in the last five or six years, absolutely heaps. And again they're fixed overhead, so I can only assume people's wages are going up. Richard, it costs more to provide the service. I don't know. Are you a pinsioner, Richard? Do you receive concessions?

Yeah?

I do, Yeah, which is good.

I mean, I've got no complaint about the government, the fact that the government to help us out with water and things like that, which is good. I don't understand when we get all these platitudes about the recognizing we are all doing it tough, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. How they can justify going from eight cents to twenty two cents today, it's incredulous.

Yeah, all right, mate, thanks for calling in. You know I've said this before on the show. Particularly under this government this term and previous terms, they are a lot more forgiving of late payments and working out payment plans. Is no doubt about that. I know Liam, my friend and predecessor of Liam, was never happy about it. He thought that was you know, that was held as a debt on government books. I remember him doing the stories

I was.

I was listening to you earlier. Earlier, Carla was talking about President tuch Man when he came here in the nineties, and it reminded me of this story. My mom was actually a MC on the event where he taught where he had this speech, you know, the in nineteen ninety five, and this was the whole this whole tension was going on, and my mom was going through the four dancers, to singers, through drama people that were there, the whole program, and at the end she forgot to announce him. At the end,

You say that though, that ideology and that enmity does get passed from generation to generation a tony one.

Hundred percent, And he just it does not only go with flaws, he goes with every community around the world, every community. Somebody has to put a stop to it. If I'm an alcoholic, why am I my son should be putting a stop to it? I said, I'm not going to be an alcoholic. But generationally goes and the cycle continues, abuses and hatreds and all these negative aspects of our generation continues. It has to stop somewhere. Yeah, thanks to somebody has to stop. Yeah, I don't know,

We spoke about this earlier in the program. Across the globe and particularly in Australia, forty seven percent of Australians are profoundly pessimistic, believing that the country is in decline our society is broken? Is that an individual choice? Is it something we absorb from our environment? Is it to do with what we read? Seeing here is about the chats we had with our mates? And can you and pessimism around as an individual? Moneylishman is a psychologist, joins us.

Yeah?

You know, I think it is something that is a good habit to get into. But I also think when we're pessimistic, that's telling us something about our environment, isn't it? And the way the brain is perceiving what's going on in the context of our life. So if we're angry, or we're upset, or we're fearful, all those emotions do

Doesn't it.

So it is worth acknowledging what's going on, but making sure that you put the effort into train your brain to have a bit of more of a balanced perspective in life.

Well, you know, my lay perspective is is I'm aware that if you do have negative thoughts on an ongoing basis and we do get them, we can have an impact on your health and it releases at least a certain hormones. What about this notion, Mary, that do worrying about things you can't control? So you know, if you watch the TV and you watch what happened was happening in la overnight, you can't really control that, but that can have an impact, I suppose.

Well, exactly because we're absorbing, aren't we everything that's happening in the world. And yeah, certainly what we hear and what we're watching on the news, we're taking that in and then our brain responds to that. And again, rightly, so your brain is supposed to detect threats in the environment, But worrying does nothing unless you can do something about it.

You know, we're getting We're running a poll today. Are you're optimistic about Australia's future? The yeses are fifteen in the noser eighty five. I'm one of the yeses. But I sort of tend to see things through my kid's eyes and that they're going all right, so that makes me happy. It is there. We got any practical tips today, MANI for people at a sort of a granular practical level about how they might be able to retrain themselves or look at things a bit differently.

Yeah, yeah, well, I actually say to people, just remember that your brain is awesome and it's there protect to protect you. So it's always going to err on the side of course and make you worry about things. And we do have a negativity bias, so we're born to tune in so survival reasons to the negative. So have some self compassion for yourself first and foremost, don't judge yourself harshly if you get a bit grumpy now and again.

Yeah, for sure, Marnie. Thanks for talking to me and to our listeners today. You have a good day.

Thanks Simon.

Thank you. Marty Lishman, psychologist. Yeah, the pessimists have the running at the moment. They are eighty five of those and the yes fifty And look, you know, some very intelligent reason responses coming on people from you know, and looking about Australia's future, about the government, about the cost of living, about housing. Kathy says, go and spend some time in the UK. You'll come back optimistic. We got back Saturday, four days in Watford. Coming back is heaven,

Evon, hey Boe, how are you going?

What can you tell us today? What's the latest?

So the latest is that I'm not sure if you've been up to date with what's been going on, but basically a sewer pipe sewer pipe first in beer Wood that was on Friday, and because of that, that's caused kind of mayhem in all of the all of the sewage systems. So they've had to switch off some of the pipes there and that's then caused another pipes are first in Beaconsfield, So that's where I am at the moment.

So I heard Ollie talk about this yesterday Evon and Bruce Lee Oval. I hope one of our listeners who lives near they've had to move house does and they were putting sand on it. I think, does it smell where you are?

It doesn't smell at the moment, And to be honest, Bruce Lely, Reserved isn't the stinkiest of places we've visited. It definitely does smell, and I definitely feel for the residence now. But the one that was probably the stinkiest was one of the ponds quite close to the spear would burst, so a number of the ponds in the area had the sewage overflow into those ponds, and really the water therea is just sitting there stagnant, and their houses right you know, right there on the water, really

What's the water corporation saying today?

They have owned this. I think they are responding quite well. They have apologized, and they've said, you know, they understand this is a really awful thing for people to be experiencing. They have stressed this is an extremely rare event. These sorts of things don't happen very often, and just unfortunately this has been a perfect out of bad circumstances with you know, where this pipe burst, in the fact it's

Yeah, all right, well, we'll look for your stories Asavo Yvonne. If anything else you can read myself or Oli about later in the day. Please do let our let our listeners know if you if you hear any new developments. But thanks, I hope you're yeah, I hope the throat's okay, and I hope you get a nicer job sometime.

Soon, hopefully tomorrow. Thanks Bowie, Thank you.

Yvonne Aardley from nine News. Not really good enough, is it? Yeah? I heard Oli talking to the water court guy yesterday. He said like a really nice guy, Ernest well meaning yeah, so Beaconsfield Spear would And now there have been other leaks in apple Cross, parts of freoh and through those areas. If you if you've seen or heard anything, please let

Is there right?

All of them? That's right? Megabyte? I believe it was megabytes? Yeah, yeah, all right, thank you mate. Well done, Jimmy the genius on our keys today. One double three A eighty two is the is the phone number. We're asking the question are you optimistic or pessimistic about Australia's future? The yes is are optimistic and the nose are pessimistic. Yes, says Veronica, Thank you Veronica, No, says Peter, and Alan rays a really good point about the Water Corporation and home insurance

Simonte calling up in regards to your previous caller about the gas charges in regards to a sixty percent plus increase to pay your bill at the post office, taking the two dollars, charging the pensioners two dollars for their paper bill and the obscene one hundred and eighty percent

Yeah, all right, we'll do mate. I take your point. What we charges go up because of admin charges go up, That was my point. So you know it costs more and more to run these institutions, but we can probably ask the question, particularly in regards to pensioners. Mate, thank you for your call today, Phil, could they.

Charles, good morning, Simon. Look, I just wanted to bring attention to your listeners. In April of this year, I was given a parking infringement by a company called PMS. It's Traffic monitoring Services. Now these people are based based in Queensland and New South Wales. Now, as I understand it, no infringement companies or finance enforcement agencies outside of this state can they shoe parking fines? Okay? I looked up the legislation and also I looked up the Consumer Protection Acts.

And Charles, where was the fine was? It on private property. Was it in the shopping center car park?

It was in the shopping complex sort of like a fitness center and a chemist warehouse and the doctor surgery there somewhere around there. Even if these people hired these people outside, it is illegal.

They have to hire.

People from within the state to monitor the fine infringement.

So you haven't heard it back and you haven't had to pay the fine. How much was the fine?

Seventy seven dollars?

All right, so you've overstayed and you haven't heard back, so you're going to pay the fine.

No, never heard from them again? Never? Yeah, okay, So I suggest any listeners who are listening to your program, the company is TMS Traffic Monitoring Services. They have a base. They are based in Queensland and New South Wales only not in Western Australia.

Yeah, all right, well I'll tell you what Charles. Thank you mate, thanks for letting us know. I appreciate the call. We'll bring our man Andrew Marouchick right now, sorry, Nick marroucheck right now and see what Nick says, because that may will be the case. You can't be issued to find from a company that is not domiciled in w a can I Scotty.

Simon, how are you mate?

Good?

Thank you, that's good, that's good. Very optimistic yep, to.

Send a texture.

But the guys that wrong me up.

They want when you hear my accent.

On on the radio.

I don't know if you can still hear it.

Be here for forty years.

No, it's still there, mate.

Yeah yeah, tell my cousins that.

Yeah. So they're so you're optimistic because of where you've come from and what you're seeing here and enjoy is that right?

Absolutely?

Mat, It's a great life over here. I've been back to Scotland a few times and it's just beautiful place.

But just so sad.

It's just just you, mate.

Are still doing the same thing they were doing forty years ago. They just they go to the shops and they buy seven meals so they've got a meal every night.

And oh mate, yeah yeah, that's not about point. The fresh produce and the food's pretty good over here, isn't it. Mate. That's yeah.

I mean I don't get into the side of things, but you know, just this place as a wholes no better place, mate.

Thanks mate, Thanks for your call. Thanks Scotty. Scotty from Scottland from Scotland fourteen parcel. Then we might need to take a break, Sean, and we'll come back. We'll talk to Andrew from the he's the president of the w A branch of the Pharmacy Guild of Australia. Up against the clock a little bit here and you stay there, mate, get to you in just a moment. If you are a pharmacist with a master's degree, there's a push out of Charles Darwin University that you get called a doctor.

Yees.

So the announcement was made by the Federal government last November.

Yeah.

So, based on the Australian Qualifications Framework, any university delivering a Level nine master's degree in pharmacy, all their graduates will be able will be able to use the title of doctor.

Yeah right, What does that mean for you? For Andrew aired.

For me?

Because I haven't done that yet. You need to do that or would have to do that, but we'll have to fill in the gap in the degree in the master's degree place. I've only got a bachelor's degree, so I'd have to do the level nine master's course.

Yeah, okay, and do you need that? Does the masters need to come out of Charles Darwin? Could you get a master's here in w A.

Not at this very second, but all all the universities are working with the AQF as to what are the requirements around that degree yep, so that they can actually offer that course.

Yeah okay, So what do you I mean pharmacists, You know, that's a that's a tough qualification. I know talking to you and Andrew and other pharmacists, you do do refresher courses and update and upgrade your professional calls as you go. Do you think farmacists will take this up?

Yeah, so the demand is actually hard to tell, but generally, the anecdotal feed that we've had from a lot of people is that they're really excited by this. It's finally the recognition that I think farms have actually well, I think they're finally getting the recognition that they deserve for the place that they hold within the broader healthcare framework.

Yeah. Well, yeah, as you know, I've long been a supporter, and that's it's important to have a good pharmacist in your life, is it your small business owners as well as well as been you know, as well as having the Quarrells and perhaps running a little team of people and all of that. Will it come down to an individual decision, do you think, Andrew?

So?

I think to the future, the base degree will basically have a doctorate title attached for so, I think the base degree will end up being a Level nine Masters. But there will obviously be a lot of people like myself who do need to do the let's say that the retrofitting based on their base degree.

Yeah, completely understand, Andrew. Thank you for having a chat to us today. Good on, thanks you time. Thanks Simon good Andrew Niaw the president of the w A branch of the Pharmacy Guild of Australia. Whatever can listeners, there will be there will be pharmacists who do have a master's and they can be called because their little name on there. Now they have those little lanyard, the little plat what do they call badges, They sorry have those

I'm in Cupertino, California, at Apple's headquarters for event this week.

Very nice? Well, I won't still OLI stun because, no doubt he want to chat to you about that. But do you still wreck? Do you think? Do you see people still using floppy disk?

Trev No, you don't because it's always behind the scenes. So it's either a nerd like me who has a computer from the old days that he wants to play some game that's literally only for that computer and only on that floppy disc. Or it's an institution an organization with a system that is so ingrained in what they do that it's simply never been replicated in modern systems, and or the cost to move on to a modern system would be phenomenal and never made it past any business case, And.

That would be the same as Windows ninety five.

Would it spot on you know the thing about Windows ninety five, right, people will go and look. Windows ten I think goes out of support at the end of this year, which means that Microsoft won't support it as an operating system, and even after that, at some point it'll be to the point where they won't even make security updates. But here's the thing about Windows ninety five.

I know my dad who use a lot of photo programs, trev and he was always frustrated that he just couldn't you know, we just couldn't use the same one year after year after year. So his generation wanted a computer to work in the same way forever.

And with no change. Like, I get calls so often from people, whether it's on Oli show, on my podcast wherever, that they're frustrated by the way something changed. You know, software changes every year now and that like that's what Apple's doing this week. It's people don't like change. They don't love change. And when you've got processes that especially running aviation, running air traffic control, you don't want to have to educate every single person on a change in

Yeah, as long as they can play solitaire. Hey Trevan, thanks to the chat. What are you on with Oli next?

I should be on Thursday afternoon?

All right? Do you like him?

He's a goodbye imean. I'll give him that, all right, Okay, damned by fat check you know my address?

Hit, damn by faint praise. Hey, good to talk to you, mate. I'm sure you'll bring Olie's listeners up to date with Cooper, Tino and all everything there or thanks trev See you mate, Trevor Long. So yeah, I'd love to hear from you. Do you is that you do? You hang on to your old computer, your old kits, your old operating systems because it works for you. You might be running solitaire and you know an email system. I love to hear

The port in Fremantle for sure.

Yeah, still working in the in the caper, I see.

Still working, still loving it absolutely all right.

Yeah, really nice to see you. Joe's from APT State Sales for WA, South Australia and the NT. We've got a nice little offer for our listeners today. We're going to talk river cruising today, aren't we.

We are. We've got some beautiful news ships that have just launched in Europe, so we thought we'd to allow our listeners about that and also offer an exclusive discount with bict and Travel as well for the next week for six PR listeners.

Yeah, all right, we'll tell us about that first start. Then let's not bury the lead. What do we got So.

We are any APT Booking, Travel APT and Travel buble. We're given two hundred and fifty dollars off any booking at the moment perposon.

Yes, well that's good.

Yes, that's a really good discount at the moment too. And that's on top of any other offer that they're currently offering to.

All Right, so if you book within this week, so cruises of seven days or longer mentioned six PR, and you speak to when you speak to Dave or anybody down at Bigton or any of the CCT consultants, turn fifty dollars off per person and Bigton Travel and claimont Cruse and Travel are of course the same crew, right.

That's right. Yeah, So we a couple of years now we've been one company, so yeah, we're doing really well.

Yeah, So, Joe, when was your last trip?

About four months ago to beautiful Vietnam and Cambodia, which was absolutely stunning. We did the Mekon Cruise on one of the new ships with only about eighty eight guests, so it was gorgeous see the big cities of Saigon. The direct flight was amazing as well, going from Perth stright into Hope him In and then doing the river cruise ending up in seam Reap which is absolutely fabulous, and then flying out back sailing back to Perth, back to work and back to reality.

How long, Joe was that We actually.

Did a seven night river crew. We did a few nights also in Hoyan, which is just a beautiful, beautiful city in central Vietnam, and also three nights in cm Reap as well.

Really popular Vietnam. My kids have been and my mates go once every couple of years. That's really boomy, isn't it.

Yeah.

It's one of the biggest popular most places in Asia at the moment, especially now we've got two airlines find there directly.

Why's that day? So why is Vietnam so big?

I don't know, It's just I think someone people want new, they want different from Bali, all things like that. So it and it's got great culture, great food, history, It's got everything. Great beaches.

Yeah, yeah, what vessel on the Mekong were you on, Joe.

We're on the Mekong Serenity, which is one of the new APT ships. Absolutely gorgeous, fabulous food, so kind of forget the diets. It had that beautiful fusion of Asian and Western sort of cuisine. All the drinks, all the cocktails included a beautiful pool on the sun deck as well.

Yeah, okay, just a reminder, you can say two hundred fift dollars per person if you bought Big t and Travel and Clamont Cruise and Travel CECT book within the week and it's tours or cruise of seven days or longer. And the great thing about you, guys, and we mentioned this time and time again, it's the it's the experience. It's customizing things for people. It's just a one stop shop for everything you need, your visas, working out little variations on your travel plans exactly.

Yeah, so we know Australians don't ever just go for a seven day trip, so we can customize everything from hotels to car hire, trains everything.

Yeah all right, yeah, no worries, Well done, you've always done it so well. Big can travel as personally and travel agency and as I said, customize luxury travel and cruise holidays. So the team down there will always look after you. Twenty five years yeah, twenty six I think, yeah, how long have you work therefore?

Coming up to fourteen years now?

Right?

A young man first?

I do it?

Yeah, can you see me? Agent?

Not really? I reckon you're going okay, So you Joe, if you like to ring in, you can one double three eight two talk to me about the new APT vessels Joe and what's on offer in Europe at the moment.

Yeah, we're excited. We actually launched the Salara, which is basically bring a new dawn for river cruising into the Australian marketplace on the twenty fifth of April, and what we actually did was reimagined how river cruising should be for the Australian passengers. So we really change it up because quite often most of our passengers do the amps Pest and they do basically this fantastic fifteen night cruise, but they do forty one meals on board the ship.

Yeah, well E Bikes as well. That's the voice of Joe Ellie's folks. She's from ap T, state sales manager for US South Australian Inte. And if you want to call the guys, you can one double three eight to eighty two marx Is a few years ago. But I did a cruise from I'm gonna mispronounce this, I reckon Joe cem reaped a ho Chi minh you about you?

Yes?

Absolutely, yeah, yeah, incredibly popular.

Yeah it is. It's one of the really popular river cruisers. The absolutely stunning because you get to see a bit of everything absolute and like with apt everything's included so you don't have to You've got no bill at the end of the day of the yeah, and you get to say stunning highlights and history and all sorts.

Dave and Joe. When we first started doing Big Can Travel segments on this show years and years ago, it was about packing once and unpacking once, just having to do it once and that that's what people love. But also this this notion of hopping off when you wanted to going to have a stroll on Terror Firm or if you want a tour, staying on the vessel. That's that's still very much an Australian thing to do, isn't it that choice? Day by day?

Yeah, definitely, Like there's nothing stopping you, so like you can do all the tools that are include, or you can wander around the town or get on the e bikes yourself if you want to go. If the ship's there later at night, go have dinner off the ship as well. So's there's plenty of flexibility to be able to do anything you want.

Really like the sound that bar Joe in the Garunava how good one level three eight eighty two a river cruise with apt what's this point of difference, Joe, I think.

The fact that we are an Australian company. We actually got Hicica Gruthri, which is based out of the East Coast to design the ships, so it's actually designed for the Australian passenger and that's what we do for all of our products, whereas a lot of the companies now internationally based so they're really focus on other tastes. But I find traveling with like minded individuals is really good.

Yeah, so really easy, well explained. If like's ring and you can one double three eight E two, have a chat to Joe Elis from APT or Dave Armstrong from Victim Travel and just you remind he can save two hundred and fifty dollars per person for a bigden or CCT travel. It's got to be a seven day or longer tour or cruise. Just mentioned six pr when you ring in and two hundred and fifty dollars a head can be taken off the bill. So that's the idea

They've got the dim for that. But yeah, you can take them around that. They give you a little guides or give you maps on every town that you're in and basically you can take off or you can do your own thing and follow the guide and stop at a pub if you wanted to, or right along the vineyards as well, Like, that's a few obstions that you can do.

I think there's a stretch about thirty k's between Milk and Durnstein which has got heaps of wineries between and some guests I'm going to grab an e bike and off they go, and we have a guide at the back. Because people do stop at the breweries, they stop at the wineries, AND's like we've got to keep going to meet the ship at the other end. They really enjoy it too.

Yeah, how good is that? It's great if the vessel keeps going and you catch up with it.

Correct. They give us away from the top deck. Generally the people that say I'm going to stay on board and enjoy lunch, and we often just cruise around and find a brewery and have maybe a kranski and a beer or whatever, and then continue on that journey.

Fantastic if you want to find in any of your travel questions anything you like folks one, double three, add two, hab a chat Todave. He's very very user friendly and helpful, as is Joe. Anything you like, anything, any tour itinery you may be considering around the world. Will come back. We'll talk more with a cruising with Joe and Dave in just a moment a big Can Travel segment today if you'd like to speak to Joe Ellie's the veteran of APT and of the WA travel industry. And Dave

Ready and waiting for you.

Yeah, how good to fifty off? Hien, how are you?

I'm well, thanks Simon, I'm John Dave listen. I've got a question. I've been looking at the river cruisers in Europe roughly around Christmas time, possibly around Christmas time for the markets.

How do these river.

Cruisers accommodate somebody with a mobility issue that uses a four will walker because some of the itineraries have got a lot of walking tours or guides or bits and purses in them, So how does that shape up? And also the accommodation on the.

Boat for sure, great question.

Ian.

We certainly get quite a few clients who have mobility issues, and what we find that the challenges is, I think mainly in the tw because it is a lot of

Okay, then, thank you very much.

You've asked my question.

Jeez, thank you, Thanks you, Corleen, thank you. Good lucky day, Allen. Good ay, how are you yeah going well mate?

Yeah, Look, my query is the premium for single travelers. What's been done, particularly for cruising to provide more access for single people traveling without the sort of single premium. I've just recently moved into a lifestyle village and just talking to the other residents, the number of people that would travel more or would like to travel, but the single premium is what kills them. It just seems that they cutting out a lot of potential travelers.

Absolutely. I think we hear that feedback quite a bit, Ellen, So thank you, thank you for calling. We do have a single Traveler club which quite often we do have some great single deals available, so I'd recommend probably giving Bigden Traveler call that can sign you up to the newsletter. Quite often these maybe you know, three, four, five months in advance, but at least they are a really good deal and quite often have no single supplement attached to those.

Also on larger cruise ships on the more the ocean ships that are now building dedicated single cabins, even on some river ships now they're starting to pop up, so they're a bit of a smaller cabin but perfect for one person and they don't really attract any kind of surcharge on the middle.

Yeah.

I remember it's changing a few years ago. Didn't that there's a big move towards single travel. Ye, definitely, and maybe sign up for one of the one of the clubs what's according in Joe.

Are the Solo Traveler Club.

Solo Travel Club. Have a look at that.

OL.

Good to hear from you, mate, Thank you hi Brad. How are you Brad? We got you?

Hey?

J Bowie, how are you?

Yeah, well, Brad, where are you today? What are you driving? Where are you going?

Full of my road train on my Marvel road.

Well, the middle of nowhere.

That's the story of Okay, that's middle yet, go on.

Okay, So.

Your guests you have in there looking at traveling the Meat Kong on a river cruise just after what time of year? And probably you know which are the lines to look for and the ones to steer away from.

Well, the one is a lot of experience.

Well, yeah, I assume that, sorry, and.

I can I can go out. I can vouch for Brad's character and personnality. He'd be he'd be good.

Traveler, absolutely, Brad. I think there's a couple of choices if if you get a chance when you're when you're one of the truck stops, have a look on the other a p touring dot com dot au or travel Marvel dot com dot au. And they don't have all these really great deals, especially with we're just talking in the break actually about Vietnam and Cambodian how much great value it is. The accommodation is incredible and it's really

Would probably say the same thing, yeah, because after that you start get the wet season come through and you get really humid and sticky and absolutely perfect time to travel.

How's that, Brad?

Yeah, March is out on the year. We go every year in March we go somewhere for our anniversary, so that's perfect.

Let us know it's your anniversary as well. Make sure we make a bit of a fuss for you as well. On the day.

You'll save my wife, would you make it fast anyway? She's amazing.

I love it a little something for everyone from me today. Hey mate, drive carefully, Brad Hay, Yeah, well take care. So Brad's on the Marble Bar Road, which for years and years was an unsealed road and it's now sealed, So that's I think marble bars three hundred caves from human and another gone's two cased for humans, so that is really right in the middle of the pilbro there. There's there's some are bodies around, but yeah, bra Brad's

You'll be great ambassador in the outback.

He'll be an ambassador two and fifty brothers per person for Bigton Travel and claimont Cruz for travel book within the week, so within that, you know, over the next seven days needs to be a seven day cruise or longer. You're a big rap for this meek On thing, having done it four months ago, aren't you.

Yeah?

Love it.

I've actually done it a couple of times. I loved it so much I said to my partner we've got to go back and do it out of work. So he loved it, and then we did the hoy Ron stop as well. But I just love the people. I think they're just so welcoming right product, it's got fantastic food and great service and an amazing price as well, so it's really got everything and it's so handy from birth.

Yeah. Dave Armstrong's with us as well. That's the voice of Joe Ellis. You can hear from apt Dave. Anything that's taking off at the moment that you know, we've talked about Vietnam, but anything else that's flying along.

Japan is always a big one at the moment because we're coming up to probably starting of the ski season. Kind of bookings. Canada's going absolutely nice, yeah, which is really surprising. Yeah, and of course Europe is always popular, but more we've seen more Scandinavia and things like that, which is great. So in Iceland and that kind of place as well.

So I know it's Japan taking off ten or fifteen years ago, and it is people skiing, isn't it. So some of my Surfy mates during the winter go ahead up there too.

There's more Australians and Japanese. I'm pretty sure in some of the locations.

Yeah, I hadn't listened to the station yesterday. She might have run Milsey. I think she had a big birthday coming up. She was taking the whole family to Japan. So what are people doing in Canada? They're skiing as well.

No more like tours like especially like with jos Has apt has great tours through there, but Rocky Mountain now cruising through the inside passage. Oh yeah, all that kind of thing as well. So yeah, yeah, lots of that. But skin is well, we don't do so much skin in Canada as much.

Yeah, all right, and Joe anything that's as well. It took me on we talked this new vessel that you have, the Selara, but the apt Or Stars coming within the month as well, isn't it?

Absolutely so? The sister ship of the Solara. So we're going to have obviously the same situation with a six different experience as far as dining. Only one hundred and fifty four guests, so we're gonna have two beautiful new ships and you're really setting a new standard for the cruising market in Europe for sure. We've had actually a lot of inquiry for New Zealand talking about skiing and they've just had a huge amount of snow, so I hopefully have a really great ski season in New Zealand.

The Solara was launched on twenty fifth of April, so you know, a month or a month and a bit ago, and the stars saw the yes. So both of these and where are people mainly flying? Two?

They tend to go Amsterdam to Budapest and they add on a Paris and Prague stop. Quite often we have found people, as Dave said, are doing you know, three four weeks in Europe. So they may combine may be a magnificent Europe cruise with Bordapest with maybe Croatia Cruise which is absolutely stunning beautiful to swim through there and enjoy, or just do a little bit more like a villa stay,

But always been the way, isn't it to phone in it and use the expertise. If what's the best number to ring victim Dave.

Zero eight nine double three nine zero two seven seven.

All right, and what's the best number to ring and not get Byron?

That one's the recepttions number, and don't ask for him.

Hello Byron. If it hasn't really changed either has he Joe Barron.

He's a Treasures.

Thoughts of nature, no doubt. Joe. Really nice to see you. Thank you for coming in. I'm glad you're up and about still. Joe is the yet state sales manager for APT in w A, South Australia and the Northern Territory. And Dave Strong, our friend from Victim Travel. You've just been on a Kimberly cruise, haven't you?

Days through the Kimberly Quest, which was absolutely amazing. Yeah, sixteen other people.

I've been on that to it. That isn't it incredible? Incredible bit of kid, isn't it.

Yeah?

Getting see places like I'll never see like and fishing and getting landing the helicopter on top of the boat, and.

The staff to staff knows so much about about you know that destination Dad.

If you've cut on lending them, they will talk for hours and hours and hours.

Yeah.

The skipper is always telling them off to get back on the boat so we can move on.

Good food too, the food is great. Yeah, yeah, mate, Nice to see you both, Joe, don't Joe, don't be a stranger. I hope to see you again sometime soon. Let's not make it another ten years before we catch up. Let's see. Thanks Joe, good on you and Dave. Thank you mate, Thank you giving all a cuddle down there at Bigdim Travel. Bigden Travel and Clermont Cruise and Travel are the same company. Folks. Give him a ring. I'll

You've had a need a pick a page.

So that was the first time they saw the giant fingo pass I think it was thirty feet whatever it was, it's that ten meter shark. And then of course the famous William score, the theme song Chase that became the sound of the Shark, didn't it. That was the Noise of the Shark and has been for fifty years. I reckon. So movies that may have scarred you for life? One double three ad two Love to hear from you Today.

I have to say bad boy Bobby. Yes, horrible, horrible, Yeah, absolutely horrible.

Did you see it on d v D video streaming?

No dB, I think streaming?

Yeah?

Yeah, yeah, what did you go and do that to yourself? For Yeah, you've listened to this show before. We always talk about it. Yeah, I'm putting I'm putting you down as a yes in the optimism colum, aren't I.

Yes, yes, definitely, definitely, yeah, yeah.

You're an optimist. Chantelle. Hey, Yeah, good to hear from you.

Thank you.

Movies that scarred you, yea, Chantelle. Bad boy Bubby saw that at the movies. I saw that at the movies with the guy the big head with partlet, and that was what did they say? What Steve Steve Wizard said, just another quiet day Madelaide, bad boy, Bobby. Don't see it Jaws, see it, don't see you should see Jaws. Jaws is a Steven Spielberg field masterful bit of storytelling. And my kids aren't scared by Jaws, but I was. You know, I overlooked the mechanical and special effects shortcomings.

Correct the phobia? Good time still.

Oh it's a PG movie.

But I don't know how we got through it in the cinema.

I was watching it in the street cinemas. Then.

Yeah, I was laying vertical and in the steep.

With my head over live.

My mate stole my hat and threw it up into the crowd and then they threw it back and I screamed.

Like a girl and yeahs terrified.

How are were you? Twenty seven? Yeah? Okay, so young?

All right?

Yeah, cheers mate. Thanks just a arachlophobia PG obviously about the fear of spiders. Movies that are scared you for scarred, scared and scarred you for life?

Could I?

Christy?

Hi?

How are you?

Yeah?

Good? Thanks?

Ku Jo?

My mum used to bang the side of the car when those kids at the back seat.

And ye, Kujo is coming and we were petrified.

Your mom used to do what bang the stide?

She would be in the back seat of the car and she would put her hand out the window and brag on the side of the car and drew Joe's coming and we would.

Be absolutely screaming the car down.

Your mom did, Yes, Christy, that's funny, Thanks Christy. Q Joe a Stephen King novel, wasn't it there? It is about it. I don't know what sort of dog. Was it? A bull Terrier or a Saint Bernard? Do you remember Jimmy st Bernard. It's a sat Bernard, that's right. Yeah, normally who rescue people? The little little tubs of whiskey. Thanks, that's funny movies that scarred you for life. Get a Alan, how a.

Good mine?

Good appening are we?

Yeah?

You have to be Clockwork Orange and told my hearty staying here and think singing in the rain.

They get their visions of the going.

Left and right, and I think if you know the scene, you'll know what I'm talking about.

Yeah, very really violent, wasn't it very violent?

Then? Also with umbrellas and that sort of thing and sort of the old white sort of safety suits. Then you've got to bear it now sort of. It gives me a bit of a sheer rough the spy.

Did you see Jaws out at the time?

Yeah?

I did, mate, Yes I did. I actually was working out a drive and cinema at the time and when it was when we were showing it, and yeah, amount of people are actually driving out of the drivings was quite amazing. Couldn't handle it.

So, I mean, Clockwork, Clockwork Orange is rated R. I think Jaws was mature. I don't think it was even.

Sure, Yeah it was. I think it's sixteen plus eighteen plus back then.

Yeah, what about the Yeah, what about the underwater diving scene with the head and anyway, it's yeah, it's a monster film. Thanks ol. Clockwork Orange, Yeah, are hyperviolent. I think was described as back in the day futuristic dystopian thing good. I David, you talked about George earlier.

I just released the Pinborn was saying, now's.

Very good my movie, my movie that cringe? Or is the shining red Rum on the mirror twins the dining Room theme?

Ye, so much, Jack Nicholson, that's a that's a cracker two. That's another Stephen King novel. Isn't it that Geezy was good? He took that to another level, didn't he? Jack Nicholson?

What an't actor?

Are you still?

Probably?

Today?

One more thing, although I haven't seen any.

Of the movies.

It'scarsy for Life. Thanks, no need for that day, Counterbars twelve. Yeah, the Shining that's so I think that's Stanley Kubrick as well directed that. Like Clockwork Orange, the Shining still holds up really well. And he's no good Jack. Jack Nicholson plays that character Torrance. I think Jack Torrance from Memory and he's got a super twist at the end of it. And it's yeh's a cracking film. Lots of lots of malevolence and human dysfunction in the shining Thank you, Dave.

Good I Rod, Yeah, yeah, I look back in the seventies they used to have movies called creature features, and the creature feature movie was called The Creature from the Black Lagoon. And after watching that, that was the first time my brother allowed me to sleep in his bed after watching that, that was.

Yeah.

We used to say that was interesting.

We used to stay up late, didn't we to watch him?

We did day, yes, yes, all those wondering thanks And actually I did watch it just recently and with with my family. We all had a bit of a laugh and all that sort of but yeah, that was it. That was the one that we stayed awake all night just watching it.

Yeah, I remember those. There was Yeah, Edgar all and Poe One's murders in the Room, Morgue, the Raven, all those things. They're all black and white, Hay and they.

Were jared, they were.

Free to wear.

The Man with X ray Eyes, all those sorts of things.

Yeah, all right, cheers, Rod, thank you mate. Yeah, the Man with X ray Eyes. Yeah. Horror film films that have scarred you for life one Double three, eight eighty two is the phone number, Matthew, Alex, Tony stay there. We'll talk to you guys in just a second. Running a poll today, are you optimistic about Australia's future? That yes is a sixty one on one of them, and the nose are one hundred and two. Thanks for being

Hi, Matthew, Yeah, good O, Simon, love your show.

Good to see you back.

Thanks mate, undoubtedly as a tough local. So I thought, madam and I went to the cinema, so he said, oh, this more cricket could be okay to watch. Been to Northwest, worked there many times. I just about jumped into his lap and had told him it was that scary and it was graphic. It was the noise, the intent everything, and that laugh with the knife.

I don't think he'll.

Ever leave me.

Yeah, and the former play school presenter as well, Matthew, just to add to the menace.

What more can you say?

And I don't want to give away the end made or any spoilers. But it didn't get any better, did it. You thought there might be some redemption, but it didn't get any better.

Well, it's just a cold shiver.

And I don't think I slept.

We went camping a couple of times after.

I don't think that's properly afterwards.

Still a little bit nervous on a on a windy night. Then someone's gonna be at your tenth door knocking.

Yeah, yeah, that's right, and I reckon. Yeah, if you pull up to a crater in the northwest of w A and your car won't work, be afraid. Thanks.

When you need to stop you, mate, Sorry, mate.

Yeah, there's been a couple of them, hasn't there Wolf Creeks. I'm just trying to think what's his name? The actor? Oh, John Jarrett, John Jarrett, John Jarrett, Mick Mix, thank you, Jimmy good A, Alex.

Yeah, there's one movie that really put me in the back feet at the droll. Was the Exodust that really disturbed me?

Terrifying?

Terrifying, wasn't it was?

Mate?

I was looking looking over your shoulders. Yeah, I didn't expect yeah, first thing to be that bad.

Yeah, yeah, I saw that. The little girl, Yeah, the little girl in the playble in the Blair. I think they're not around a little bit same ere made as Jaws. I reckon, wasn't it? Yeah, mid seventies, I reckon, thanks mate, all seeing at the Melody driving in rocking Ham Slash Granana, good Tony, good day, fun and hello mate, Not me.

It's my one of my twin sisters. I have twin sisters, or twelve years younger than one of them.

Was always didn't like.

Clown, never liked clown. Of course we took her to see it right to this day and she's in her forty. She's terrified of clown and to this day, the other sister myself still leave red balloons around our house.

That's not good, mate.

Hey they all flood done?

Yea, they flowed down here, Thanks Tony. It's me and another Stephen King novel, wasn't it the Clown. Some kids are scared of clowns, some kids for obvious reasons. Some kids scared of Father Christmas as well. I remember, I've got mate whose kids wouldn't go to the shops and Father Christmas. Is there?

Good a, Jenny, Oh good ay, Simon, love your show, Thank you Jenny. Growing up I always I enjoyed scary movies, horror movies.

I just enjoyed them.

It was just one of those things.

But only recently I saw a black mirror one of the black mirror movies called metal Head. It's all done in black and white. It's post apocalyptic UK, and it features those headless robotic dogs. I had never been more scared in all. I kept looking at the clock, thinking when the hell is this going to? And I couldn't. I couldn't leave it. I couldn't leave the heroine in the state she was in. I had to watch it to the end.

It is just horrible.

If you really want good scare, watch that.

Yeah all right, Hey, and when you say those headless robotic dogs like I should know what they are or like that, well you know, well.

You know how they show them now quite often whenever they're showing robots, and they have those robotic type dogs that go and do know, bomb disposed. I think it features those very heavily.

And it is rendered and.

As part of the Black Mirror series, is it?

Yeah?

Yeah yeah, and it's called metal Head and it looks it's very very scary.

It's scarred for life. Thanks Jenny, cheers, Thank you. The fiftieth anniversary of Jaws approaching Scarred for Life. A lot of us who saw it in the mood in the cinema unless so, I mean, my kids watch it now and just think it's hilarious because the special effects aren't. Aren't they good? But still still a monster film.

I would have thought, Mike, yeah, goodo Bowie, I've got one that's very similar to Jaws came out not long after, called Grizzly Yeah right that.

It was about a grizzly a.

Big giant grizzly bear going around a national.

Park in America, killing all the campers and all that sort of stuff.

Yeah, that's that Rings a Bill was it? Was it something to do with some sort of toxic lake and toxic poisoning or am I imagining that?

No, no, no, you're thinking of cocaine and beer.

I didn't realize that that was one.

That was the one that just came out recently that.

Carl Aingen was talking about.

And yeah, yeah, that's a very much a Carl sort of film. Thanks mate, Grizzly rings rings a Bell, Good on you. Thanks for calling Anthony today. Hello, Hello, Anthony. Scarred for Life.

Co came there. I'm going to have to put that on the historic It was seven Yeah, Brad, I think the ending of that was that was a brilliant baby full stop, but the ending was harrowing at the time of the baby.

Yeah, amazing film. Yeah, Kevin, Kevin Spacey and Brad, wasn't it?

Yeah?

Yeah, seven thins I reckon. I'm guilty of all of them. Actually, I've been a bit of strike and Kevin, who.

Was Brad if it was a maybe going to help yeah yeah nice, yeah, yeah, nice mate. Yeah, we won't spoil the ending, but yeah, sevens seven is a ripper scarful life. Thank you mate, well done. Hi Vic, you're there, Vic, Yeah mate, there you go going very well. Yeah yeah, that was the Spielberg film too, wasn't that?

Oh I couldn't tell you. I remember watching it the bloody living cod share of me, and when I left to drive in where I was, I kept looking in the real rigimal for this semi driver. Yeah yeah, yeah, you never told the drive round he at the end when he crashed and there was blood Goodman on the steering wheel.

Yeah, yeah, that's true. You never Sorry mate, it's so fat again another monster film I reckon from the Spielboo film. Thanks Vick, Yeah, Jewel, I think I'm trying to think who started in that? Which bloke started in that? Anyway, it'll come to me, Thanks Vic, Dennis Weaver, thank you Anne? Did i? Hillary?

Oh?

Good ays to you, Simon. I just wanted to give you the classic, one of all classics. I think it's Alfred Hitchcock cycle, the shower scene with Anthony Perkins and Janetly. I think that was I mean, the music was so haunting.

Oh yeah, really scary.

Hey yeah, yeah, for sure a lot of people they did not take showers for a long long time after that, you know, quite.

Sort of raunchy too, wasn't had had a few adult themes in a well, yes, Hilary brilliant. One of the Yeah, one of the scarf life films Forever Hi Joanne, Hi.

Mime was Psycho.

But my brothers I went to the movie and then a few months after, one would turn the light out and the other would bang on the bathroom window. And I was just about died. And my brother did it recently. He watched it, and then I was having a shower and he come up to visit. Next thing, his banging on the window and not my god. Yeah, I'm husually afraid of anything.

Did you did you, Joe? Did you see it in the in the movies?

Yes?

Yes, so that was sixties. Wasn't it only sixties?

Oh yeah, yeah, I'm old, I'm older.

Thanks, thank you, Joan. I don't I don't know if this is true, but I heard someone tell me it might have been. My old man said that. On the night that it was released in London, Anthony Perkins sat outside some of the cinema, sitting under an under a blanket, very malevolent scary looking bloke. You know, that skeletal frame and those those hollow eyes. Yeah, nasty, nasty bit of work. Not just a shower scene either, the whole concept. Great twist. Thanks Joane, could I Peter?

Okay?

Good mate.

So I got invited to a swimmer party as a ten year old primary school kid, and the young Bloak who was having the birthday he was allowed to choose a horror movie. Oh dear me, American Wealth in London as a ten year old is I've never forgotten that movie. I just about know it line for line. When the twenty fifth anniversary special came out, I bought that, Yeah I did, Yeah, I actually it is actually one of

Great effects for memory in American Will for Liner.

That was a fantastic movie. George Landers did a bang up job with what he had. I mean I watched the special effects and I watched the making of the movie and everything like that. And yeah, and there was one raunchy scene in that one as well, Simon.

I don't mind a bit of that between you and me. Thank you mate. Twenty nine minutes to one. Have you got a movie that scarred you for life? Brooks? A scary film which will met George today.

Oh, scary film has to be scary because I'm going to say cars because doc Doc had from the old Racer has been smashed and left on a scrappy and bamby they killed baby.

It's getting see Europe. There's softy answer.

Hey, goody, Simon had a game, good mate. Yeah, this is a bit of a psycho Spriller goes back about thirty years. Kathy Bates with.

Uh yeah, yeah, another Stephen King film, wasn't it.

Yeah that's right.

Yeah, she's got a lot of class.

She loved him way too much, so you know, bad we love. That's the way to love someone. So just strap him too a bit and hid him with a hammer. Thanks, you know, thanks for you coll mate. Yeah, that was a scarp life film as well. Won double three A eighty two. It's twenty eight minutes to one. Thanks for your thoughts, everybody. I wanted to ask you about in the financial year in just a moment, because are you

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At one, Thanks John, John. Any movies that scared you and potentially scared you for light for your entire life? Pretty much?

She ever wondered where the title of the Tears for Fears album songs from the Big Chair came from.

No, I never have, but where, Well, let me enlighten you.

There was a movie called Sybil back in the late seventies, and that's about yeah, Sally Field, not the Flying Nun anymore.

And she was its long way from Gidget exactly.

She played a woman who had associative identity disorder. We used to call it multiple personalities. She only felt safe when she was sitting in her analyst's big chair. Anyway, the movie I decided to take my girlfriend to go and see that in seventy eight because it was a TV movie in America. It came out in the cinemas in Australia in seventy eight, and it was at Uni. It was an electure theater, theater at Uni. I think it was probably the middle of summer. It was a bit warm, it's a bit smelly.

Yeah. Yeah.

And there's a scene at the end of the movie where you see what Sybil's mum allegedly did to her on the kitchen table. Yeah right, Never going to see that movie again. Yeah, Wow, it's a bit shocking. Anyway. I fainted.

Did you first a hot time?

It was a bit hot year, Yes, maybe my dinner didn't agree with me.

Wow, Sybil, I had forgotten about that one. Brilliantly done, John. Thank you. If you catch up tomorrow with Nichols Niche, Yes, yes, thank you John. Poltergeist is Murray. Most of the casts have died suspiciously. I think that's right, Murray. I think four people died again, it's a Spielberg film, and I think four people died after the film with Poltergeist. In really unrelated ways. The duel act was Dennis Weaver. Thank you, says Laurie. Appreciate that. Lourie. I think I've got your

Hello, Simon? What It's been a three day break for the share market and I think it was an eight day break for me, and I'm very pleased to report to celebrate my return. The share market is a fair bit stronger today, which is a pretty amazing effort given all of those horrible images of rioting on the streets of Los Angeles over the weekend. Nevertheless, all of the major banks here have improved today, and the resource companies are stronger as well. The spotlight or price is hovering

Simon, all right, oh you well done mate. Well I look forward to chatting to you tomorrow. Thanks so much. Yez O Nclair from a short end partners. Yeah, Monash in Troubler game. We spoke about this a month ago and they've done it a game, it would seem allegedly. Jason from Alfred Cove says Bowie was Jaws for me, and then I saw Piranha and Orca that I had to go to school swimming lessons at Couji Beach. It used to be close from time to time because the

Sal So?

The big sales landmarks in our currndar year have traditionally been Boxing Day and the Black Friday sales, which have really emerged, particularly in the electronics market. But the end of financial year, sal So, I reckon eight point one million of US Australians will planned to shopping in the and EO FY sales and we could be spending over two thousand bucks each. Chris Jacob joins us now from Finder. Hello, Chris, hey, Barry, thanks having me, Yeah you too, thanks for chatting to us.

Yeah, I've already snapped up a bunch of stuff. Actually, I recently moved house, so we had a few things we needed and I saved about forty percent which wasn't bad.

Yeah, all right, Yeah, that's good, isn't it. It is becoming, you know, it's really emerged, hasn't it. And I guess there's reasons for it. You know, big retailers whatever, they are trying to offload stock as they go into the new financi a year. Can you legitimately get a sale?

Chris, Absolutely. I think it's it's a bit of a black horse and a financial year's sales. Like we tend to think of Boxing Day and Black Friday as the big sales events, but I think and the financial year is equally as good in terms of the discounts you can get.

Yeah, all right, it's across the board.

I know.

And our producer here is.

Too.

She's got to work couple of websites that she follows, and a lot of them can be around around clothing, women's clothing, women's accessories, but it does include electronic goods, home and living, family and lifestyle fashion that you can get it. You can get a bit of a bargain anywhere.

That's That's exactly right. It's pretty much like every single retailer imaginable is jumping on the bandwagon. Like even things like utilities like you can save on your energy bill or your phone plan. You can get up to fifty percent off at the moment. So there's some really great bargains around and it's not just electronics like it.

Is to be.

And are we presenting to the bricks and mortar store, Chris, or going online? What are we doing?

Well?

I think you should definitely start online, just because it's a lot easier to compare the prices between different stores. And obviously there's a lot more variety as well. If you're looking online, well at the brick and moltor stores, you're like kind of like, it's just what they have in stores, what you can buy.

So I would start online.

And if you don't see what you want, then it might be worth just ducking around to your local Westfield or whatever it might be.

And I genuine in the absence of knowing, Chris, I genuinely don't know this. It's on now through to the in the financial year. Is it is it one day, two days or can you go in there?

Every year it seems to go longer and longer, So I think the sales a lot of them actually started in May and they'll keep going through right up till thirtieth of June, and some of them will even go beyond that, so you might be still be able to get some deals in July as well.

Yeah, all right, good to talk to you mate. Thanks for talking to our listeners at six pr Ye're welcome. Thanks Chris Chris Jaga from find Out What do you reckon? Listeners? Have you have you or are you going to take part in the end of financial Year sales? Love to hear from you. Have you got a bargain? Give us some advice and all of this one double three A to eighty two movies that have scared you for life? Brian Reckons. The Psycho House is displayed at Disneyland in

Do you know that?

Stephen King as well? No, I've stayed away from that one. Yeah, everyone tells me to Yeah, yeah, all right, thanks mate? One double three add two. Love to hear from you today. Are you buying up big during the end of financial year sale? Have you done it already? What of your purchase? Give us? Give us a tip? Just another another one? Isn't it so? Boxing Day? Black Friday? And now the end of financial year sales and eight point one a median Australians will take part of it on on average

How are you Silomon?

Yeah?

Good mate? What's our code word mati rivalry? Yes, excellent mate? Going on next Wednesday, mate to to watch Origin live? Obviously great getting the second game, isn't it so? New South Wales? Big winners in the first? Who are you on? Which jump are you're wearing?

I don't really have a favorite, but I'd just like it to be a nice close and good game and a biff here and there?

The Billy Ollie joins you now, okaday Olie? Hello boy? Hello? What on yesterday? Thank you mate? And I thought you were you were a fine fine job. Who wins Origin too? I've got Wayne on the line. He's got our code word correct.

Queensland wins?

Do they?

Billy Slater's sacked huge as a player as a captain. Yeah both, he's done.

That's his career.

He's over. Wow.

Cameron Munster the new skipper.

Whiz the Maroon? Yeah yeah all right, he may waite enjoy that. Who are you going with?

You might take my son in law maybe?

Yeah?

Yeah, I newly newly appointed someone law from not long ago.

Yeah, father in law of the year. Enjoy that, mate, Thanks thanks for listing the six pur thanks mate for you Yeah, so yeah, I bring this up with so I love rugby league. Yes, you grew up with it. I came to love it later in my life. I don't want to mention your team and the Dolphins, but that was awful. The Dolphins running fifty six points. The world was melting down. Don't avert your eyes.

The world was melting down on Friday night.

I did not bother watching.

The second half of the match, and me and West Coast some of the Soviet Organs yesterday poor so she was. You could barely consult her well.

Her and I chatted after the Eagles girme on Saturday, and I wasn't here yesterday to talk about it. But both her and I are wondering if that's rock bottom. Yeah, I know you mentioned yesterday. But it's hard, isn't it? The Keeper of Faith? Oh yeah, and it's hard, like Sophie biased merch, I know memberships one hundred percent.

And for the Dragons on Friday, this was probably one of their worst losses of all time. But I turn it off at halftime. I decide I wouldn't get angry this week and I just put it down as an anomaly. So if they repeat that this week against the Sharks, then the warning signs.

Of the Loveeld. We've had three years of it. Three years.

I bought that jersey of Saint George in twenty ten and it hangs in our house, signed by all the players when we won the premiership, and I spent a lot of money on it. People think I'm crazy, but in my lifetime that might be the only time that they ever winner premiership because they're so bad.

Well, they were a mighty clubs as Yeah, you happened to bond it yesterday. The sewerage yeah in the suburbs going, yeah, still going.

Still going. Issues in the Swan now and after we had that fatburg out of the rac Arena de Barklay only a few months ago, have we got some major maintenance issues. And sure it's incumbent on us to put the right things into the toilet, but this is really bad that the maintenance might not be up to standard. Now we've got a state budget next week. So Simone McGirk, the Water Minister, is she knocking on Reta Safioti's door every day and saying give me more, give me more, give me more.

Yeah, you'd hope so, and I reckon a couple of years ago Olie Caroline Spencer came out and gave Water corporate whack over leaking, leaking Pikes different system couse. Yeah, but yeah that's And did only you flirting with Trevor Long a bit earlier? Yes, yeah, he asked him if he liked you, and he said yes, but he did give me much. He didn't give you much. I think it was that phone to legs. He was overseas, but I have been.

I've been on the Western Union and transferre to a couple of dollars his way, so you know, until there's a draft, he may stay on Perth Live not Perth today.

It was hard going back to the X would give you never quite works that. It's a good idea principle. What do you got for us today? So good nor blowing. This is up today.

So our lawyers in the studio is answering your questions. The Consumer Protectors along and Anthony albit Easy, has decided that the treasure Or will organize an immediate roundtable about how to boost productivity?

What is it?

How do you do it. Everybody's got to have an idea.

Is it unpopular as it may sound, the fact we need the unemployment rate to go up, so people need to lose their jobs to value the job that they have.

Yeah, so you have a yep, good point, Oliver. I give you the final say if you will. Are you optimistic about Australia's future? Elbows Press Club A genus speech today and there's a national survey out saying we are pessimistic? What say our listeners?

I add the last vote to the yes column saying sixty six I'm optimistic in the noser one hundred night You've got it, like Simon, Let's give context for a moment. We live in Perth, Western Australia, Australia say no more, got to be optimistic about our future here.

It's so good we live in that so good? How good is su McDougall?

Good?

Na have you're back? Bowie cheese mate, well done yesterday chess mating for pleasure for a mighty mighty job. You can hear Alliver, this st affnoon two one on five is in career best form. Four and a half minutes to one o'clock Are you optimistic about Australia's future. Yes, sixty six. The knows A one hundred and nine will come back and let you know who's going to see Blind in the Wind movies that Scarred You for Life, Jane says when a stranger calls, have you checked the children?