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#603: Paco Stanley, Bridgerton, Amigos imaginarios

May 26, 202443 minSeason 6Ep. 603
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En este episodio platicamos sobre la serie de Paco Stanley de Amazon Prime, Bridgerton, Amigos imaginarios.

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How welcome you are to involuntary permanence. It is a special of voluntary permanence or not a special without a surprising chapter. No one knew he was coming, not even we knew he was coming. But we' re here. Thanks for being here. The people who download it, they' re gonna download it. Well, all right, then. Now they already know it. The day we' re going to talk about Paco Stan' s new series We' re going to talk about Bridgerton and the imaginary friend movie.

And well, either we start or you' re hearing involuntary permanence with Fausto Ponce. How are you? Good Friday, thank you for being here. I' m with Carlos Before Mendiola, How are you Carlos Andrés, Manuela Hello Paus very well and I, because here also surprised on Friday to be here with you and everything we' ve been seeing and discovering. Yeah, and I called Carlos Andés Mendola because I don' t know what I think. It was an intuition. I said he' s gonna be able to

do that for now. Not that much you' re seeing a lot. That' s seeing a lot can work and it turns out that we both saw the new Paco series is in the idea of Amazon Prime. I didn ' t put it in the titles because then the platforms are already too strawberry and that certain words are no longer used and that if I don' t know what the algorithm punishes you and that you don' t monetize. And then she' s the new one to put him to bed with Amazon Prime.

By now and I saw her I saw her. Carlos Andrés Mendiola, surely saw her even to Daniel and more people staying. But, well, I told Carlos Andres I' m sorry. Guys, I' m sorry because of the people who are with us, which is a typical day for permanence. But well there now yes, that we put it there on streaming by whoever wants to look after it will be available on other platforms in audio

version also how it always happens. Okay. But, but, but, I was very intrigued because Carlos Andres was a Bridgerton fan and then I' ve been watching memes, Facebook pages dedicated to bridger Ton and how Carlos Andés Medio was very happy and told him we' re going to talk about it. Nor have we talked about then what happens to bris to Carlos Andrés Medella, why this Whatsoul the Fast abaut is that it is like our soap opera. You see we had our ex- men novel, well exact richard or

novel. Third season in Netflix, Third season, Third season that has obviously already three seasons. It has a spin off series that also had a season that focuses on the queen. It' s based on these novels. Her name is Julia, Julia Queen, and it' s the story of a family with eight children. And well, every time he tells us the love story of one of these creatures, of one of these Little Ones are a

wealthy family and Bridgeton of all life, bridger Ton of all life. If they are very well- off, very much if we say coveted there socially they move very well in all this And, moreover, the seasons occur during the season of debutantes, which was like this moment of the year, where the young married women were presented so that, because it was just known that they were already at this moment and then, they would find the right man

to marry. And so on, and besides, it' s like the queen' s venia that can choose one of these young girls and say it ' s like a diamond and then it' s like a woman, because it' s very special, that all men should have there as well as look at the look, okay hear, and then to see this third season, not that it' s really hot, this third season, how you

' re feeling it' s really good. The truth is you have right now here on screen, right to the leading couple on this occasion, which is Collin, the third of the children Bridgerton and Penelope Feathrrington, who is their neighbor. These two characters had already introduced them. Of course, we knew before that they were, then, as very good friends, that there was chemistry among them. But they didn' t dare, let' s say they did more than friends. They were just friends, and nothing else

until this season. And I think it' ll work very well. And something that the series is doing, that I think they are correcting their old mistakes, because although, as I said, every book is about a son, because it is the history of the family. But then one challenge you have is to change the protagonists each season, because it is clear, yes, yes, yes, and that is a challenge because it goes down a

bit, because the interest is no longer like the same protagonists. No, so here what they did was jump in a book, because they hadn' t adapted the books in order. Here we skip to the third book to get to the room. And what they started doing in the previous season was to go prefiling this couple. This couple, also, Penélope, who is the actress who appears there, is not like the typical protagonist. Not because the chaparrite has a figure, because a little more filly, let' s

say. But she is also one of the most attractive characters in the series, because she is this girl who, well, obviously is already super single, because she is already twenty- seven, twenty- eight years old. So that' s like tragedy and what' s going to happen now. Besides, the poor girl is kind of in a mix this season, because the mother already says, because mexica don' t worry. If I don ' t know you, thank you for taking care of me and she'

s not God. No. The other two sisters are already married, but they don' t have children yet, and that' s putting them a little at risk because they need a new heir, because you know these mechanisms of those times where I needed to see heirs, where men are who were the property and so on. Then it' s also like that pressure there running good. And besides, this character is Lady Wiseld Hum. Who'

s Lady Wisel Down. She' s the narrator, let' s say from the series and the voice is from Julians and this character has a kind of social newspaper that gossips throughout the debutante season and puts a lot of flavor in the broth. Of course, not then is this character. Besides, no, then. These first four episodes solve a part of the story. They won' t tell us if these characters, because they' re finally going to take a step beyond being friends, just friends and nothing else.

That is settled there and they leave us for the second part. What' s going to happen when he finds out she' s from Wise to Down, who' s said she hates and wants to destroy, why she makes these terrible comments from all over the world and includes her family. So, you' ll see that it' s like quite tasty enough I understand how where it' s going And besides, it' s the nobility that a pink story becomes attractive. Yeah, I can' t ping you in such

a way that I feed you the excitement you' ve made them. Mendio, I' m sorry, but good. Yeah, but we had to talk about Bridgecton, because it' s one of Netflix' s most important series. The truth and this season. Besides, obviously we have them, but they' re starting very cleverly to parade the brothers who follow not enough for the next season. Obviously, because we' re so close and so smart because we' re gonna want to, I could see that story.

Not then, of course, many more of the season premiered. We took the four episodes he' s giving for a lot of conversation on these strategies, as new ones from Bridgers, from Bridgerton of Netflix. Yeah, yeah, well, you see it doesn' t give us the full season, they give it to us in two parts so that, because I think it ' s a strategy that would give a little more life to the content of leaving it a little more there on the agenda. This is weird for me.

The two- part theme of the season in two parts. But, well, they' re just other strategies there for visualization. I guess you get hooked the same way, but people at least finish watching the series completely, i e, if on a weekend I put you through the whole season, the best thing you get in half and you don' t finish the

rest anymore. Or you' re missing a couple of chapters. And in this way, they already make sure that at least one weekend you throw the whole marathon, it' s the whole first part and then you match up with the rest. I don' t suppose that dosed like that, they have more scope, they can have better metrics. I guess, I think they have more reach, because I think what happens when they release something complete is that a lot of people who are a little addictive, let' s

say fallict to the content, we throw it over that weekend. And I think the phenomenon is like thinking that you turn on a cer and I and it goes off, logo, switch off, then, then. And what they want is for the game to last a little longer than you' re talking about it, because even cobra hush they said they' re going to release it in three parts. What he wants to give. This strategy works. Yeah, well, yeah. Netflix continues with that yet other platforms like

Apples, every week, at least in several in several series. Sometimes I prefer it, sometimes going back to the weekly format is comfortable. The truth see other times you want to give it all to you, not cho, I wish I' d prefer it all at once and then forget it when it' s weekly. You know, then ah yes, maybe I' ll expect two of them to come together and I' m gonna be funny, because if I don' t know if I' m going down, that' s to say, if he had a certain relief when it'

s weekly and I' m seeing her there every week. Sometimes if I wake up and I want to know what' s going on, not that

it' s going to end all like getting ahead of me. But well, there' s bridgeton then to try out this third season, touring this super approved third season and if you already see the previous ones and like them, because the love stories that have, because you already know a lot of sexual attention, flirting sex scenes also a lot of eye plug, that is, it is very well done in that sense, not of moon to the protagonists and frame them in such a way that, then, they become very

very attractive. Yes, of course, it' s a telenovela that you enjoy a lot. Of course that' s interesting, not the subject of eye taco does pull and it makes the series or the movies have certain something morbid there and hook you up. It' s not obviously a resource, you say," Oh, what gachos" But if you end up watching Turkish soap operas, for example, they' re all eggs, that is,

you are, they' re all handsome, beautiful and handsome. Everything is like in the golden age of Hollywood and they keep doing it, not anymore, obviously, with seeing a lot of content and working on this you realize this is the moment of the eye cue. I remember very much about the cat on the hot roof with Elizabeth Taylor and Polneuman, and it was like the way they take her out and we' re going to see her

pianos. No And then that' s just what it' s like to be selling the actor to the actress and then ending Poul Newman without a call. And then they made these fantastic frames to see the face of her face. That' s it, and this series does it, too, very well. You don' t have the protagonist, who' s a pretty cool guy who also looks like Jim was sent and then they take him out, because he starts showing this hair on his chest. And it begins is,

then, to be selling the rooster. Sure, sure, you understand. All right? All right? There' s good, yes, quality Carlos Andrés Pindula is in Bridtherton. If you like, then there' s nothing to do with it. Hey, I want us to change the subject, too. Let' s go to the movie that we couldn' t talk about, because it' s last week. But, well, it ' s one of the kids' movies of the season and it' s called imaginary friends. I don' t know about monse. We had mixed

opinions about the people we went to see her with. Yeah, let' s go see her with Gabriel and some friends. These were the parents of Gabriel' s little friends and Mons and I didn' t love it. But they do, but the parents do, the children, I' m not so sure. They got bored and in half a movie they already loved each other, but there the point is that there Lucia is angry and, I mean, you hear it all the way home. A lot that none of Gabriel Lucy participated in the show. He' s angry or crying the

movie. Yeah, so they wanted to get out like half. In the end they asked them how they heard how you see and yes, we all liked it, but I think they didn' t really enjoy it that much. Anyway, it doesn' t matter, well, folks, imagining is a stellar movie by Ryan Raynold with cras Maybe I forgot the first name Crasinsky. What' s His Name Thank you John Crassins, who also does not direct and he is the screenwriter and in fact, the story arises from him.

The story arises at the beginning of the film. You' ll remember that we see him and they' re like playing tea and he just says that, like, it really caught his eye watching his kids play and that they were playing tea or whatever and that the kids have these moments in which they kind of disconnect from reality and dive into these games where they' re living together with beings that we can' t see, but that they, then, for them they' re there and that they' re like these

friends, imaginary. And then the intention of the film comes from there. I mean, I find the premise of the film pretty, the idea of the film very pretty to me. I agree. With you To me, I really didn' t like it either. It' s just that if that' s the thing too, that' s the premise. I found it almost at the end, I mean, then well, what' s going on? Where' s the movie going? No, because he' s got a lot of detours. Suddenly he' s on the side.

Suddenly they' re telling you something else. Suddenly something else is happening. And it' s like that to see what the movie is about, so what is the character conflict or what is the block or what does it have to overcome where it' s going? Well, in the end, yes, you understand, and there' s an exact one. In the end, the premise is pretty and you have your thing and you say ah look

how cute. Still we could even discuss it, because I don' t know if the issue of having imaginary megoes in that comfort, of being alone and having imaginary friends, I say I don' t know how much I love it, right, but the way they present it in the end, because it' s beautiful, not that we give that chance to imagine adults, although you' re no longer a child, because you need that fantasy

exercise. But I also insist I don' t know how much I love it, but well, there' s Linda, she doesn' t have her thing and she moves, but that Carlos Andrés I like how they took me. It didn' t seem like a sad movie to me either. I mean, to see the first act. It' s very sad It

' s very crude It' s depressing. I didn' t get to connect Look, I was going with the best will to watch this movie because I had heard interviews by John Crassinsk talking about not that I did my research and imaginary friends have this function and so on and here we' ve turned them into this vehicle, like in this capsule that keeps the projection of what the kids that I said then, well, everyone, sounds like really weird. I was really going with my clnxs I said this is going to be

super emotional. I in all the best way and I never connected to the

movie. I agree, with you, I think it' s in his hands what he really means between the fact that the girl is struggling with the possibility of her dad dying, between which he is now charged with the mission that he has to help these imaginary friends who have been orphaned, because obviously, when the children grow up, because they forget imaginary friends and all this then yes, I think that he had a lot of ideas and that in causing them, not because in the end, as he has beautiful moments and

he has a cast. In addition, it is spectacular, i e the vocal cast. It' s but well, I mean name it and here it' s not and name it in the sense that they' re superstars. No, I mean George Plune and Radley Cooper, Emily Blond exactly that was making me super cute, because I said what a father to have the chance that John crassins Key, Emily Blond, Rian Reynolds and Blake Liveley would make this movie that they' re devoting to their children. Not because all

four of them are here. All four have children of similar age and have not had and perhaps their children cannot watch their films. Not then, the whole line seemed so lame to me. But the movie seemed to me like you didn' t see it, like I saw it and I felt it even as old. I don' t know if that happened to you like this seemed like the' 90s to me like something we' d seen. Yeah, you haven' t noticed that, but it might be if it ' s a good point. I think the point is this is several ideas.

They start with an idea, then it changes, it changes. What Mons said is that probably someone from the studio, some producer or some studio execution, started to see the development of the film and said no better to change the best. Let' s move him and start moving him. And that shows in the script is very scattered, as you say, that' s the movie for those who don' t know, starts with a little girl who' s twelve years old who' s fighting between now. I ' m not a child, but if I' m a child, it

' s not fair, it' s an exact decision. It must be as an adult exactly and as Jo says, I remembered José at the market, as he says when he sold them, as Carlos Andrés Mendiola says, that is, he has to deal with the fact that his dad is in the hospital and that he can probably die. We don' t know what he' s got. They say he' s heartbroken, but dad' s like doing it. You spell him all the time. So very much to life is beautiful, very to the straw there and trying to protect it,

let' s say not as accurate. Not exactly the grown- up, and she' s staying with Grandma. I tell you this that what I' m going to say to montse says that he doesn' t have it, that he has it carelessly that, but to me it' s not to say the girl stays with the grandmother, but there she comes to the hospital as if she were an adult, because where the hospital is in New York it' s not a dangerous city and the girl moves as she wants in the city that she says, she' s getting there very quickly

everywhere. She' s alone. There' s a moment I thought she was even crazy or had a mental illness, because it didn' t make any sense, I mean, she didn' t know. Suddenly who' s real and who I didn' t say tall is imagining it. But anyway, at her grandmother' s house, she suddenly starts finding treasure, as well as giving me the granny keychain and showing me your clothes, but she doesn' t find that she' s starting to find treasures there that

you haven' t just seen yet. When you start to see that there are some things that move a few shadows or some characters that are there around you, pa swinging around and hiding and running. So, she goes out of the apartment, looking for them to know what' s up with them, goes up some floors and on the top, because she finds that they get into an apartment, she looks out and because the moment is interrupted because there is a neighbor who has an old lady who says that it is already

too night to be there playing. Then it' s over there that tells me I got out. The camera doesn' t come back, pau comes back. Yeah, I don' t know what happened anymore. But, well, right now there' s the one. What did you do, I don' t know what I did. Ah I think you closed your camera can be how weird yaye, and then she, well she' s already going home her grandmother and the next day? Yeah, it comes out the next day, the kisses. Again he follows these weird entities that we

don' t know what they are. I mean, because we don' t know if they' re human and they' re monster and they'

re moppets and they' re ghosts. They are but when we see them, because they are there people, they are the imaginary friends who are there leaving the apartment and there goes a lord with them who bring total Reynos go to the house of someone of a child because one to look for other imaginary friends who got there, because, since they are no longer imaginary friends who no longer have their child, because they are looking for some child with whom

to stay. Then they go and rescue the imaginary friend who ends up being this purple character who is called Blue, who is purple, because his name is Blue, they rescue him and suddenly, because they inevitably meet our per the girl, with our main character and because they begin to reveal to him who they are and after that, tell me they will say an inconsistency.

Forgive me for interrupting you. But to see these, these, these imaginary friends are not supposed to be the projection of the wishes of the child they were exactly accompanying to accompany another child how we are going to do it, because they would have to find a child who has the same projection No yes, I believe it too. It' s like, then, because what ' s the rule of this universe. They can move everywhere, they' re imagining everything. She does or does not really exist in her friends when

it is, she actually becomes when one imagines them. It' s all in her mind what' s going on. That' s not clear until the end and I' m sorry spoiler to read, because in the end you' re going to wink there already. Indeed, if these are the imaginary ones have, they are anchored in reality somehow, is that there is a mistake in the film. Of course, imaginary people wouldn' t have to be looking to connect with another child. They' d have to be

connecting with their original owner. Well, I think, although that' s accurate, that' s not clear, not good, and then suddenly, she doesn' t know what they' re doing there. He doesn' t know what he' s doing. Mr Ryan Reynalds there, no one knows either. I thought I was even the ghost of some grandfather of hers. No or something, because you don' t know what' s going on there. He' s already all the time with a Mr Major,

super- suspicious at this time. And so after that meeting it turns out that they tell her that, please, there is a kind of retirement home of imaginary friends and that everyone is looking for another child and that she can help how to manage those needs and connect to these years you imagine with other children. Why she can do it, because nothing else, because she lives there, because it kind of seems that when Chiquita was there, imaginary friends

knew her, but she doesn' t remember. And after he goes to the house he' s retired, because I already have those other characters and it seems like it' s another story. I mean, it seems rather structured as a television series. No And after this, there' s another story, and then there' s the story of the dad who doesn' t know what' s going to close. Then the history of the hostel, that of the child hospitas the grandmother also that has another story and then

the mission that she has, because it changes several times as direction. So it' s all confusing and it' s weird. And until the end says ah Look at this it' s about that he doesn' t have a spine, he doesn' t have a central idea for which he contributes the main story, of course, but also the secondary stories. So, that' s why it becomes confusing, it' s scattered. Yeah, that' s too bad, yeah, yeah, totally, well, there

it is. I give him a session Carlos Andrés, I agree with you, I would actually tell them, because look at the experience that some platform arrives when they have a little bit of sight if they want to and if not, because they can save it. I mean, it' s not like they' re missing anything either. Very special, not good. Now

yes, then let' s go to the next. Let' s go with the Amazon Prime Pacostanle series that has just premiered today, where they tell how it was the last day in Paco Stanley' s life through the views of the characters around Pacostanley, as Mario Besar is, Jorge Gil Paula during and surely Paco himself will also have his chapter. I guess you don' t have, yeah, but it' s a little bit. We saw.

Jorge Gill and Mario Maria are the first two hello. The next week we' re going to see Benito which of Chiquito already leave us every end of episode shaping you the next. Not sure, the next one is going to be Benito, then there will be Brenda bren the wife of Mario, the wife of Mario then it will be Paola, during and after the wife of Jorge gill No and the attorney ah Samuel of the Villa O good to see. Besides, we' re talking about this and I' m talking

about the names of the real- life characters. In other words, it should be noted that in the series they were all changed so that there were no problems of lawsuits. All that s orbs go to san change and change things like that, to get them. In fact, in order to talk about all this that happened without anyone offending, without anyone getting angry, without anyone saying, They have no right to spend my life and I will sue

them. Mario Besares is suing them. Probably Well, he' s already threatened that if they' re finished, they won' t be sued. He' s probably gonna sue them because they don' t have a right to his image. Because even though they say it' s fiction, even though they changed everything so that they didn' t know that zeal, so that yes, so that people don' t directly relate it and change its

name and they don' t look like the characters. For it is inevitable to see the character of Luis Gerard Méndez playing Mario Besares and think Mira has his gestures that if he does May you know in real life, one two looks at the best. Mario be know did this maybe if he' s a bad person, maybe he' s such, such, such? Tal?

Tal? It is inevitable to think about it, because the series yes, it is very well done, yes, the truth is that I think it is a surprise because it has been a very very controversial series, very commented that was announced in the beginning, because obviously, the Mario and Paola themselves wanted to be their own series, they wanted to tell now yes, that it is their belity and not this truth that they are with us good, it is true in quotation marks, because they are not telling us the

truth and they are very clear in that. No. Then, obviously, when we begin to see the first images, that the photographs and all these criticisms are similar, if not, if the hair and so on, and since we see it, we realize that it is intentional that they want to recreate the time, that they want, because they also show us a period and a dynamic of doing things that was very different from what we see today. Something that hit me a little bit at first is the dynamics I had

for Costanley, to cause laughter, was based on humiliation, bullying. Yeah, I' ll say a quote first, before I follow the style. Monse also told me it was just that they' re recreating the time. But I say yes, but you see wigs, that is, with everything they' re creating the time. It feels a little exaggerated, if it has a tone of farce and is on purpose, that is to say in

the desire to recreate the time. There is a tone of farce where the characters have these exaggerated features, where they see the peucotas, where Diego de Diego Neta' s character plays Jorge Gill, because it looks almost like he has protesis I don' t know if he gained weight for the role, but it seems like the chistoncillos. It' s very made- up and suddenly the hair is like in a certain way looks fake everything, but I think it is on purpose good. I insist, it' s a tone

that means it' s a mix of farce, crime and melodrama. Even the cuts forgiveness, not the cuts, the auctions, in the dialogues, because they are very telenoveleques, are half cutres and also the aesthetic is a little bit or cuut if it is from the nineties, but it is seen in the middle with the broken grain, it looks like chafón. The music, not the music of the singles that pass, but the score, that

is, the incidental music, since also estere novelesca. It' s all made to generate morbidness and they do it very well and if you feel like following it. Seeing. And the thing that it' s like in a pharsic tone is that the characters become monstrous. Don' t women notice that Jorge gin' s wife doesn' t or clothes them don' t, but they do suck, you say what monsters this one is laughing at. You mean either, he' s a horrible being. The mayobs ances character.

This is also a traitor. It' s almost like if a dead fly, Jorge Hill' s character ends up hating him. It' s so miserable, what a mean guy the series has. And I understand why Mario you know when watching the trailer, because he said if I' m going to sue, I don' t know if he saw anything else or just the trailer in the trailer doesn' t look that much. But now that you' re watching the show. If so, of children, if I think that they are horrible beings and that it is a very horrible world

in which they were, because each of the episodes let us see. This is going like in layers. We don' t start with Jorge Gill' s version and we' re joined by Mario Besares, and each episode also raises a little bit about who this character is, where it comes from, what they' ve done. They tell us, for example, that Jorge Gill had a bachelor' s degree, that he was looking more like an investigative journalist, that Mario Besares wanted to be a theater actor and so on.

So they have that, they then have this part of the relationship with Pacostanley, what that was like, and then the part as such of Pacostanle ' s death and everything that happens and everything that goes around the chapters have a certain structure in that sense, more or less similar, because in addition, we are seeing each of these characters telling us their version of how the facts happened. But nothing else is limited to that day, not but it

gives us background. He tells us what' s going on next and tells us just how Jorge Gill' s attention is moving to Mario Besares, and I imagine we' re going to go with the rest of the characters and how all these characters have things to hide. Yeah, everybody' s hiding

something. If that' s interesting, I think there might be a twist there if you can focus that the bad guy is another and not like the story many times you think he can be Mario It' s not like the ideal villain of this story for people in general, even though I know that everyone is court and didn' t do anything, He' s already pleaded

innocent, but people still take him as the villain. And in the series, because there is also another villain right now, Jorge Gill, almost that if we put back and because Jorge is hiding nothing at best is pure resentment but he is hiding Mario, because we don' t know, as you say maybe someone else' s ball happens in the next episode. I think they' re going to go a lot, because obviously they won' t

give us the answer. No one has it, not exactly, but it ' s this working out who it might be, why it might be, and then we' re seeing how, because Jorge Gil incriminates Mario. Let ' s say no or pay attention to him or the chauffeur and we' re also seeing even how, for example, when they' re doing the

recreation. He makes some comments about the driver and the solicitor. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I mean, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, they didn' t happen that way. Things really have elements that happened in reality, but they don' t. The interaction of the characters did not happen this way because of the motivations either, probably not what they felt either. But it' s inevitable. It' s very well done. One two. It is inevitable that they will soon be linked to the characters

of real life and that is devastating. I say poor of the people who are seeing again poor Mario' s release of his wife, poor family, Jorge Gill, who more he disappeared, the one who disappeared from the middle, that is to say how terrible Paula during also is vote. I' ll relive this again that I have to be at an event that maybe I want to go back to public life and there' s gonna be some slugs with a tape recorder, like that with iPhone, now with a little microphone.

And they started asking the same thing as always what I think about the series, what happened, what horror it' s going to be interesting to see what' s going on with the demands and so on, because the series, obviously, the first thing they do is put a disclaimer, not where they just tell us is inspired by real events, places and characters have been taken to fiction, so, they put it there. This is fiction.

Then they tell you that, for the purpose of representing one of the most controversial cases, but it says to represent, that is, words are very key, very careful. Yes, very careful. They just say also that to present a dramatized version. And the part that catches my attention the most is that they put you in the end. The legal truth of this story is recorded in the official records and the respective judicial decisions, not in

the series. Of course they do, they protect themselves, but anyway, well, Mario' s lawyers said that because it' s So I finally know, So it' s being referenced, So, even though they say it' s fiction, etcéte, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera? Well, yes, it' s clear they' re talking about Mario Betanz and yes, it' s inevitable to think about it, it'

s inevitable to tie him up, even to say he hears what. If yes, because one gets carried away by the tab, then it should not be easy and to see what judges resolve, to see how the series is

doing. I feel that it can generate a lot, a lot of conversation in networks and it is okay that it does so as long as we have a good premise, that is, closing a premise, be good the truth of this premise, be good at the end, I think what we were saying is that it is just a pretext to pack it to tell us a sordid world of television, of how desires move, desires of power, passions, etcetera. The low passions, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera? No, I think you can go that way Let' s see how

they work out. Yeah, because this is entertainment, it' s morbid going around right now I think Mario' s possibility and now there' s no lawyer here. It' ll be nice to ask some lawyer, because I don' t think they can leave about whether they' re telling the truth or not. But I think they could go about that realitymis and yes, today I was listening to Brenda b Sares and it' s just what you' re mentioning and she was saying is that again. And now it

must be fiant. It was horrible, now it must be worse, because now we have social networks. No and then we have people writing and accusing us and telling us a series of things I think that there is the core of the complicated, because, as you well say, although here is Mario Rodríguez, for example, if I remember correctly, it is like Lec Mario Rodríguez, because we all know who they refer to, because it is not even there, if we think of the Gloria Trevi series that Way had many

elements of many characters that were very clear. There were so many others that, as you said, it may be this one for this, but it may be this one. That' s why they were mixed up with the solicitor only here, because the solicitor, if the solicitor comes, is also a little bit. The Head of Government is also a little bit more responsible for the investigation. In other words, they cover their backs even more, so that they do not touch calluses in certain areas that would be more delicate.

No, but yes, I mean that part, of course I understand them. It must be awful that you want to leave this episode of your life behind and go on and on because it' s been twenty- five years, this was the ninety- nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, twenty- five years and you can' t get it off his back. He' s strong and yes, the media won' t let him and I say I work there. I could say we didn' t let him

either that I grabbed the subject and took it out whenever I could. But yes, he is spoken of. It' s media and we' re all involved there. Yeah, it' s not easy, it' s not easy for them anymore they didn' t want to talk about this. But well, so life or chie life, because it returns it over and over again is that same scenario. Maybe they shouldn' t talk about it if they didn' t think so, because they' re taking some of

the game away from us. Sure. The other question is Mario kissing It ' s going to enter the house of the celebrities, so son him there also helps him a little to negotiate. That' s right, that' s right. I' ve been saying that too, mons That' s how it can be. Maybe it helps him negotiate one two I don' t know carlos before. I don' t know if he' s gonna

be able to congratulate people. I mean, I don' t know, I mean, I liked him on the show with Pacco and that Joker and everything and he just never saw him on a show, just when he had him on his show, because I didn' t see him anymore and he didn' t really track him. I mean, everything you remember when I was with Paco and I liked him, he was funny, but I don ' t know the real- life mario that' s out there exposing at

the celebrity house anymore. I don' t know if being labeled unfairly as you want on social networks like the villain, well, yeah, let' s just not say. The truth is that the house of celebrities is a double- edged weapon yes, we do not know what will come out of the person, whether a demon or an angel, whether it will benefit them or harm them, regardless of whether they charge right or wrong, or good and better, because, then, they pay them well and they have that

exposure. But woe therefore, yes, yes, yes, as it is, we have seen many entering into the house of the famous; for this is that the fame already knows what they speak of you, even if it is evil, for today. I think it' s a little relative. Well, you' d better talk about IT than not talk about IT. But I don' t know if you want them to talk about you that

way later. No, I don' t. No. Anyway, how complicated, very complicated, let' s see what wave we' ll see in the series and we' ll be talking about the series of the next two episodes. Well, all right, then. Hey, thanks for being here. Carlos, thank you so much for participating in this show. Thank

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