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#598: Baby Reno parte 1

May 04, 202436 minSeason 5Ep. 598
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En este episodio platicamos sobre Baby Reno parte 1. 

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How welcome you are to stay and volunteer and we owe you to talk about the Baby series. Reno is also Harry Potter' s and Dan Los Snyder ' s producer, who was very famous in the 1990s for Nickelodeon' s series and who Ahorita is speaking to everyone because he is being accused of toxicity. Good to be a character who favored toxicity on the set where kids worked. Well, now he' s defending himself against those accusations. And then there are other things that we can think of. Let' s talk here

on your involuntary stay program and start. You' re hearing involuntary stay with Fausto Ponce how grateful you are for being here. With part the planning lining can support us with stars with the super chat on YouTube and whatever you want and put the like on it, please and share the transmission. And I ' m going to put here, well, yes, to put in some way to invite to this space Carlos Dás Medio l How are you Carlos Andas, how are you Fause I here already putting my like to the video.

And so this week he' s been with a lot of news, a lot of news, a lot of premiere, I don' t know anymore. He' s not going to give us life, he never gives us life, but, well, let' s go ahead with some things. I think so. I hope you hear it' s Harry Potter' s day. So, today is Harry Potter' s day. Today I was

finding out there on Instagram. Just that well, because he' s celebrating the famous little maguito that I think many of us got to read the novels to watch the movies that he has become, because already he' s been a classic of contemporary fantasy that has detonated other stories, which is going to come back now in a series. It is already a group of novels and because they are essential, I would say of popular culture. Yeah, totally, and it' s interesting that the actors in the movie, at least

Germany and this Daniel Ratcliff and probably Ron forgets. What the character' s name is the actor he has embodied is super En, no ruper Greent, no ruper Ever is what' s the name of another actor here at work, as a team. I said the name to the fauto is the last name. Everything. Yes, yes, yes, yes, we did, we did, but they do diverge from JK Rowling' s comments. And

there' s a fight. There is interesting that fight then because it makes them morbid, that is, it gives us porvo is from outside in reality, because it is a sample of the different generations and the different perspectives in relation to, since these topics. And of course, against Car Rowling, yes, independently that it is of another generation, because it is not as

if very open perhaps to other ideas and to break their own paradigms. I don' t think so, that' s generational, that' s what we see from the outside, but I actually think there' s a lot of people in that generation and young people and they have other points of view, but sometimes you want to believe that what you should be is what finally ends up rifling or ending up being the standard. And I don' t think there' s a lot of young people who don' t think the

same, I think it' s a lot more than you think. But we have ah sure boomer, but I don' t know. I' m not so sure that before. Way. Sometimes I' m not so sure we' re in a world as open as they say. That is, yes, yes, obviously, compared to fifty years ago, but not as much as we would like to believe. And you know I also think he has to see where we' re moving. And not because now I ' m not going to sell your family here. I don' t need

that either. But a few years ago it happened to me right at some family event that, when I saw certain family dynamics, I realized and I said I had not realized that these practices of a guy that only referred to I don' t know, there were women in the conversation and it only referred to men and that was like ah yes, yes, yes, yes, so for me it was little, because not to be revealing of the dynamics in which I grew up and that now, because I move in another

environment, under other dynamics, with another perspective and I understand things differently, because it was like from a face No and then there were other details that I said Holy God, And yes, I think you are very right. I don' t think it' s the same and where we move, what we do, but it makes us think that maybe inside this, because bubble that maybe is ours, because that would happen. Yes, no, yes, then many times ah such feminist thinks differently or ester is not translucent,

and that because it is of another generation. It may be, but it may also be that other women of other generations think just like her. The matter is as complex as it is. But, well, they' re finally in there stripped of JK Rolling. But Jacking Rolly Jake Roin keeps billing and his character, well, he' s famous and people won' t let him. Fans may hate the creator, but they still love the

person. Yes, I certainly agree. I may not agree with j K Rowling' s opinions, but that I love Harry Potter, you certainly see there. Yeah, it' s funny. There are characters you want to toast to from his person and there are others you don' t. I mean, it' s hard for me, for example, Michael Jackson, which means it costs me a little bit, and that they could finally tell me they never found him guilty. All right, yeah or, but I still can' t get out of Onda good and someone costs me a little

bit. It may be the best thing where the difference is that in the case, for example, of Michael Jackson or Woody Allen we mean, or what has come to light has to do with their actions and I leave har Rowling is just a saying and then there is a difference between what you did and what you say, that of course, that can also be part of all of it. No, yes, yes, but well, congratulations Harry Potter on the subject. We want Harry Potter. Yes, yes, yes,

we do. We love him, even though last time he was watching. You know those clips, those real clips that come out on YouTube and YouTube, well, all of them. It could be Twitter, I mean, yeah, it could be Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and this one ' s making fun of Harry Potter that he doesn' t do anything. And yes, it' s true. I had already thought about it all of a sudden like not long ago or like the magic and it comes out to you in other words, they all help you in general, that is

to say they end up helping everything. No. No, you don' t, because I don' t know. You' ve got me thinking because I read the novels, I saw the movies. He' s got time I don' t check them, let' s just say go. I hadn' t thought of it as a character maybe not so active, that very passive. This one is accurate, but I don' t know. I wouldn' t make him stop wanting it. Anyway, I don ' t know, I know, I know. I' m not gonna be honest with you and that with Chris and he said I talked to him.

I mean, it' s not my favorite characters, literature or tab. Well, in fact, see, I' m going to be much more narrowed down in this It' s not my magicians' uriz either of fantasy and fiction. Andale Faus, you' re here with everything against Harry Potter. What' s going on? Yeah, Harry Potter' s far from being one, so I mean, I like him, because he'

s far from being a character that I love, very far away. I don' t know why it will be, because it' s mobile and there' s racist, horrible, exactly what horror a mughal is, no, no, but yes no. No more I don' t love it and you see him thinking that Criscy so told him, as how dare you compare Harry Potter with tolguing horrible things, because no, I don' t company them and I don' t understand that there is a point of comparison, but this one, I mean, no, I don' t think

good, is that I would also have to read the novels again already in a plan, a little more serious, that is, with those eyes not exa. I don' t know, for example, who has a level, because everyone who, I mean, can buy it with who, with usulacka le Ging, for example, with George RR. Martin, I mean, I can mean, it sounds like they' re playing in the same league. Harry Potter, I' m not so sure. I would think

here you know that all who is more adult is more mature. Harry Potter has to be, because it' s a more youthful, lighter fantasy story. Also maybe it has its depth, but well I don' t know, I mean, I would tell you that reading them I' m insisting, I mean, yeah, I read the first and the last and I can' t finish them, I mean, Harry Potter' s. I

didn' t make it. Oh Faust, as I imagined that I read the first four in a week look at you, if I was very addicted and everyone else was me when they came out, I was there, I had already made my pre- sale of the book that came to me in English and I read it in English and almost that it was nobody' s talk to me, please, because I have to finish reading Harry Potter.

And then, on some occasion we even got visitors and I as well, either they leave or they want to read Harry Potter by themselves, because I need to know what' s going to happen. It was already like book six or seven, but yes, I mean, I agree as much as I already think it is too, but if we get very academic or more to analyze, then I do believe that it is not necessarily at the level of the super great masters of fantastic literature. I don' t think so. I don' t think so. Or two as a magician, as

I do, leaves much to be desired. I think I prefer gier Mayony, that is, I think she' s much more effective, more interesting. Oh, well, then it had to be a party. Who are we going to invite, Gandalf, Saruman, Head. I don' t know, tell me more magicians than you can think of. I don' t know about Berlin, Germany and Harry Potter. Not that, I don ' t know, not because of course because Harry Potter is a more relaxed

after. Let' s say her interest is not in being the best magician, but she has to beat Volde Humor and Germaonis and she' s a magician, a much more engaged witch. No, then, yes, yes, it has to do with itself, already with the character pole. Yeah, me too, but good. Anyway, happy come on. I recognize Harry Potter' s influence on the world. Happy Harry Potter Day. I know everyone, I just recognize him. That' s my stance. I

mean, sorry, sorry, it' s not gonna be okay. Fauste, we forgive you because it' s not your favorite, but you' re congratulating him. That' s for the best. Yes, yes, yes, of course, and sun was to all children, I mean good and to you a lot of people, because I was a faso child obviously favos. Why are you doubting it. Yes, says Ricardo Ray Sarchenca and magician Frank exact to Doctor Clairvoyant Inter Dr Strenge, Chenka and Wizard Frank if

totally, and Harry Potter not. I mean, first of all, I invite everyone Chenke, fran Abeto, the Germiony apothecary, but not Harry, he pauses like that from Germione, says Oya, he' s here, Harry, ah well, bring him to you. The camera keeps telling me this arcade. Yeah, I' m hitting the table a lot. I ' m very angry with Harry Potter, Harry No, if I' m not going to move so many, well and then exactly. So things,

congratulations. Harry for the next few years, I don' t know It ' s a good question to see Let me see if it' s in your hand. The Dandin already has his 90s and something, yes no. The first novel seems to me to be from ninety- seven. If I ' m giving, I mean, he' s turning twenty- four, twenty- seven. You can see Harry Potter, Page no, Harry Potter, Harry Potter Publication of good nineties. So much to see, but I ' m in. I don' t know where. Yes, she was

on the 20th. Yeah, there it is, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it, you got it. Then it' s 27 years. No, yes, exactly. If the calculations, if Jordi and Jordin ' s spirit doesn' t play us, pimps are and wouldn' t be as a psychologist, but mathematics does see three points. I capl out. Greetings, Andrés Broa, Greetings Jorge Luis Rodríguez. Good night, good night, good night, everybody. The people who are with us no longer tremble the House Derrican Reyes tell me, please tell me what it is that

in it knows better characters than the Harry Digarcardo Reyes. Yeah, that' s what I' m holding. Don' t make me less fir from the apothecary. It says Jorge Luis Urisa, yes, not because Mexican. Yeah, well, no. In any case, it is. I don ' t know she would see another Mexican magician, but I see the apothecary I put it there that either it was invits so that ameni sei exact, no, but good. Anyway, listen quickly before I think we' re

talking about Baby reindeer, that is, mostly dangerous profession was. It' s a movie right now in Remake with Ryan Reynolds. Who' s the woman' s lead, Emily blond Ay, Emily bron Well, that would be. I saw her being called a dangerous profession with who she was. It wasn' t for Raynolds, or if it wasn' t the original series, the original series, with whom it was ah it' s like

that no, I didn' t see it the original series. I found out there' s this original series that' s been going on for a little while now and I' ll give you the tip, that' s small. I remember the chapters no longer, it was the Demayers, it was Alimayers, it was the nuclear man, if it was Thomas Lemayr' s ge, yes, just a series of the eighty that ran from eighty - one to eighty- six and just with Lima Jors, Douglas bar and Hear Thomas, yes, son, I tell you that I don' t

remember any chapter anymore. I remember the images of them and I forgot that I was the oldest and I' ll even tell you that it was pul Rayns. Okay. I told you it was for transpa, but not good. It' s obviously Lee Majors, we' ve seen it, we ' ve already corroborated it. But Heder Thomas also appeared there that it was like the attractive and sun was the pretty runaway, and it was at the time that the Duks of Hassa were on television. It was so funny,

that' s the moment on TV. The caricatures were over and all of these started at night because all of these six were there and I was watching them. I didn' t have to do it because of the Duxes of Hastarts. Obviously, if you do that if you saw her, not or not. See how many you have Carlos Andrés Mendi don' t ask those things just to take. No, not because because maybe I' m thinking he' s younger, I' m younger than me. I' ve

never asked you. I think he' s younger than you. We' re not going to pregurobar we' re going to do yes, sure yes, but well, anyway, sorry and why I said of profession danger. Ah maybe we weren' t going to talk, we weren' t going to talk about me. I sent that Catherine says thirty- two, yes Catherine. We can leave it there very well. Don' t worry. Let him bring. He said to quit. Good night, my faus says Maria de Jesús Martínez. Thank you, merejas matres, thank you very much.

Well, why did I say danger by profession. Well, we' re not going to talk about that one, but half too curious to watch or this week we have a lot of premieres. Well, I think striking profession danger with Emily Blond and Ryan Gosming in the movie they were producing in

my Oscar. We have the idea of you a movie with Anhathe that comes to prime Video, which has caused as much interest Garfield arrives out of the house as well and that' s a movie that is called love lies and blood with Christian Stewart, which has also been very controversial because it has sexual cutting scenes. He told them then, so we were mentioning a bit of danger profession. Oh, right, yeah, yeah, well, I got

off track because I was gonna tell you we talked fast. Dannis Nedel is demanding Quatton' s production of the documentary series that we talked about and which is available on Max. Then it seems very particular to me the demand, very particular, very mesa and very rare, because what it says dan is nage and we talk about it you and me. That' s why in the series, because they' re saying that he, in a good way, somehow relates him to sexual abusers and children, to pedophiles. Exactly,

so he says yes. I admit that I did things, that is, that I was wrong, but by no means How you say it, I mean, because it did not in any way favor sexual abuse, that he did not know that there was such abuse with children and that, because he is not at the level of pedophiles. And it' s weird because I didn' t keep that idea in the show, that is, in the

documentary we talked about it. Neither do I, that is because I was reading just what it says in the lawsuit and the demand indicates that the way in which the elements are put in the series, as they associate it with these abusers, with these paedophiles, imply that they use as good the translation

of the word that they use. They would be like they imply Schneider is exactly that, but I think he would have no. No, I think they have to watch the show again because it seems to me that they don ' t involve it and as I said, hey, he told me about the I mean, it' s like when someone blames themselves for something, for example, you have the money there on the table. You' re not with your roots and listen here. Someone saw the money on the table. No. I didn' t take it. I didn' t steal

it. If you get stressed out, how you say explanation, no, Dahadlack there' s an undemanded explanation. He won' t exactly ask for guilt accepted one thing that yes, something like that with this one, that is, then he won' t. No. It wasn' t me. I didn' t make it easy. I didn' t know. No one said what you knew or I did, I didn' t say. No, no, because you remember that chapter one deals with daungh Naider.

Everything that happens is established for him. The nineties present it say where it came from, how it started to work in the industry as an actor, how it has its first opportunities as a producer, as a screenwriter and so on, and how does it actually get to Nickelodeon and how does it start doing all these shows and so on? And I really think what the series makes very clear is that Danshnyder is if he has to be guilty of something and for that excuse, I would say, is to generate a toxic

environment. And in that toxic environment was he who, because obviously, paid less to the clear screenwriters, the one who asked them to massage him, the one who suddenly had perhaps a mood or a character that was somewhat changing, the one who made inappropriate comments of sexual cutting in front of less age and perhaps something else that escaped me, not that there was a toxic environment.

There was a toxic environment from there to being a sexual abuser. I believe that the chapter neither the chapter nor the series say it not as if they uncheck it in that sense, and it seems to me that what they do establish is that this very environment, because it made it easier for other things to happen. It' s normal, because if you have such a horrible environment, because there wouldn' t be any more horrible things going on, not yet, that is, in the middle of all that mess.

Well, there it is. That' s what we wanted to talk about just briefly. According to me, I don' t know if you have anything else to say about it, Carlos, if we don' t go to Baby Rein, or that' s the show of the moment. It ' s the show of the moment you' ve seen faus. It' s already crazy. It' s very well written. I love editing, I love rhythm, I love performances. I mean, it' s a great series. I think it' s the best I' ve ever seen. Yes, I agree it cost me, I liked it, but I

listened today to other people who said that they marveled at it. I couldn ' t. I needed to see chapter one two as well. Take a break, see something else. Tomorrow you see the other chapter, because I think it' s psychologically charged. So, let' s say, it ' s a lot that happens to the characters. But I agree with you, we hadn' t had a series. Thus, she sees well worked in terms of the depth to which she leads these characters, the conflict they

have and they are very very real characters. Thanks to all these contradictions you have and so, how the conflict is unleashed, because if you didn' t see it, we drew it, I don' t know if we ' re going to spoil it or not. But the size will say no today, but tomorrow. I say no today, but I still don' t know if tomorrow, but then, in another episode, yes, we have to spoil. I think it' s worth talking about in depth and there we' ll find more meat. But, well, I' m

sorry I interrupted you. The only thing I was going to say is that the anecdote goes from this, this man, the main character who works in a bar that is a comedian who is, well, just looking to highlight that he is Dony Dun And we see the first thing we see is we see him coming to this police station and saying that he wants to file a complaint for harassment and from there, because they are going to lead us to why, because they ask him from whom and why he hasn' t denounced

it before and how long he has this. And so that we can, then, understand all that, because we have seven episodes and memories well, not seven episodes that, well, they' re going to give to delve deeply into this character. Why did she take, what happened to her, what she wants and many things that we didn' t imagine of him and Marta, who is the stalker who if anything I think makes us a little embarrassed. The series is perhaps to tell us some more of Marta' s

things that are left out there in the air. But, well, yeah, yeah, you' re right, but, well, the series is a jewel, and then that' s the context, that' s the plot of the story, that is, what we' re going to see is the spiral of horror, in which the character of Donny Don, who is played by Richard Gade, of the Scottish comedian, who is telling his story is a real story, is based on a real story. Then let ' s see in the spiral of terror in which the poor one enters this

little by little. First we think that just because of the stalker' s issue of getting involved in a relationship with this woman because she lowers her hand, gets involved and she' s not curious and goes in and goes in and gives her the opportunity for a lot of things to happen. There, right now, I' m going to something interesting, but well, this looks like it first. But then we find out that it comes from another

situation of abuse. So the guy has an important history of abuse and it ' s all these questions that you ask yourself, that you think you might have avoided. Then it was my fault, because I went to that party

at 6

00 in the morning. It' s not what we' re talking about again here on the show. It' s my fault that such a thing happened to me. If it hadn' t gone from me or skirts, if it hadn' t taken too much, but I don ' t know if I had stayed in my house and he started to have those reflections. It interests me and seems very revealing to me that it is a man who is having all these kinds of reflections. We' re very

used to seeing it. This part of the abuse and the two in women, and now we see a man who falls, because he falls into abuses first of a man and then of an exact woman, because I think that is something that does very well the series in the sense of allowing us to understand one why this character enters into this dynamic. Not because in the end this relationship detonates. He' s working at the bar. She comes to

see her as sad and she' s kind to her. And simply he be kind to her for the needs and the situation she has, for she is implied by something that is not that. She feels that kindness is because we' ve seen this in many people anyway. I think we all know at least one person, but several who already because they said ah and hello this good morning and they came out wants me. You know, they'

re already thinking they want something else. I think that, on the one hand and, on the other, that the part that' s super interesting is we' re going to understand what are the lacks or needs of gift and doon that make it fall into that dynamic, into that codependency with her that he says it himself. At some point I don' t know if I needed to be on the line, I mean, I knew I shouldn ' t have made it clear, but there' s an emotional need that

he has to feel that attention also unclear exact. And she, for her part, is not a monster, that is, she has some strong, horrifying, monstrous facets, but she has other facets that are cute. She gets to see him and I mean, she realizes that he' s exactly broken, yeah, that that' s without revealing any more details than necessary.

But in the end, when she, because the series is called baby re no and she tells him her way of calling him fondly is to drink reindeer, when she reveals to us why she says so, independently let her know that we think she' s crazy or half crazy or completely crazy, and that we' re all yelling at the man who runs away. Hence, you cannot help but feel compassion for her and that being a tapachurre a bit of the heart. Yeah, sure, he' s a character,

he' s a great character. She too and it is what Richard Ga says about the creator of the series and protagonist, the same one he interprets himself is what he says. He didn' t want to make her a monster, because he was having a hard time and he also has his problems and it was very important to him. Between that and disguise the character so they wouldn' t sue him. But well, and I think the person already. Well, I don' t believe the character on which Marta mafiol

Harvy is based, because she' s already appeared. And if you want to claim that she is not the stalker, that the stalker is him, that she, because what put her overweight and that she is very pretty, then yes, because here she is angry, because finally it is that being is complicated, not in the sense of this she says based on real facts or inspired by real facts, which means they are not real facts. In

principle, I don' t enter the series. You accept and say there are things that aren' t real, that is, that didn' t happen this way and are in the series. They are put in the series for dramatic effects and for the purposes of telling the story. If it didn ' t work, the story would be clear. The other complicated part. I think a lot of people would have to reevaluate, because if they'

re not turning into a marten. In a way, it is this need of the ah people as I was told, that it was based or inspired by actual fact. Who' s the real- life marten and then people find it and start writing and saying things to her and they' re insulting her more. It' s true, yes, yes, because I think that' s also part of the core of why she wants to clear her name, by calling it something. And so I mean, it' s in this people' s need to find the culprit and then go and now

they' re all going against this woman. And not to understand that there is this difference between fiction and reality, because even if they say it is based on a real story and that we know it is biographical, it is fictionalized because it has to be functionalized. He can' t. Real life isn' t as interesting as a story. He' s got to become a fan. Yeah, not clear exactly. Things have to be done to

make some changes to make it work dramatically. Moving in my chamber, I ' m sorry, I saw a little dark Sorry, it moved a little, a little much, as rca kings say, but yes, you have to make modifications to history. But everyone immedia also takes it personally and how not or if it has good. In this case it doesn' t have

your name. But, for example, I don' t know in the series who killed him to sleep with me who killed him was the series, because they' re talking about Pack Stanley, that' s not him. But at the same time, it' s hard not to take, not to be able to take a distance if you' re the relative, you

' re the son of Pap Stanley. And you want it, because it ' s very difficult to distance yourself from a character who' s called your dad, who tells a story, looks like your dad and you say inside ah sure, but he' s not my dad, because it' s crazy that it' s hard. And if it happens for the relatives of those involved, then because it' s not going to happen for those of us who watch a series. But you know that producers save themselves very well

by making us take some liberties as good as good. So, I mean, if there are things that happened, but there are others that don' t, that' s real and that' s not, because you know, of course. But, well, all the stories are based on someone, that is, and if not, as they say, as Tomy Darid ' s creator said, and if we don' t steal the stories, then where we' re going to get them, because otherwise they wouldn' t have the truth as well and wouldn' t connect with us emotionally not

exactly. Yeah, well, I mean, if you need everything, it has an inspiration there in someone. And I already think that when you' re studying the topic already literary, not academically, if I don' t mean studying, rather researching, making articles, how he built this or that author his work. No, you always get the question. Ok what character or who is inspired by this story, this novel. Not to cut which of his characters forgiveness, which people real life inspires such or such character García

Márquez. The characters in the village where he grew up are the ones who are a hundred years of loneliness and we are always looking for him and you

never give royalties to those people. The truth isn' t, well, not obvious, not just boys to inspiration so that there is, because besides, you know it doesn' t. Whenever you' re in some kind of script or writing, write from something you know not and then, of course, you' re inspired by your anecdotes, from your family' s and already from there you move them to other contexts, to other worlds more or less real or more or less fantastic, and go What will ultimately make

us interested in stories and get excited about them, is that there is an element in which we empathize with these stories that become universal. And that' s what has us there interested in seeing them again, reading them or so on. Sure, I totally agree. Well, I don' t know who else to add to Baby Reindeer Carlos Andrés, so see her so we

can spoil her later. Yeah, let' s blow. The next one is spoiler spoiler alert at all then, as just be on the lookout hear you we will finish here and thank you for being here with us everyone. Really, thank you very much. Follow Carlos Andrés Mendiola, please, on Carlos Amen Diola on Instagram and Tiktok. Please follow him on Instagram and Tiktok.

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