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#586: Final explicado de True Detective

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En este segundo episodio platicamos sobre el final de la serie True Detective, estelarizada por Jodi Foster.

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And Daniel Villamil. If he gets to talk about something else, we' ll wait and see what' s up. But first we' re gonna go with that. And well, then, as we always begin, you are hearing involuntary permanence, with fausto ponce as they are. Or well, thanks to the people who are with us. Share transmission, put like, spread the word and, above all, have the notifications. Please, I

mean, it' s super important. It looks like a fool, but it' s not if they activate the notifications and everyone else, right now, we' re going to spread all the information. Carlos Andrés Mendio put it on Instagram and put it on several sides. Then we' ll put it there so it gets you here to get there. But, well, help us and go supporting us with that, please, we' ll thank

you very much. Put like, share and activate notifications. Please, Hey was enabled to content Carlos Andrés Mendiola and Paco that Hello how we are. Find them Andés Mandela, how you are Hello, Faus very well and you what is here, because already ready very well, as said faus danle like, comment, share, follow us there on Instagram that we are also sharing just the transmission. I got you super sloppy, Carlos, we' re

all set. How are you? He had a good night, all right, and you guys are fine, look at that very well, but I was telling you that I haven' t seen cocainberg how funny it is. It' s hot, it' s a drag. It' s good. It has its moments, but I don' t think it' s a cult story, I mean, if you tell me this one you' re gonna see Zombies, Streepers or Coke Berbes, they' re both the same. No. All of a sudden don' t do any again, I mean, I don' t mean, they' re not really movies.

It' s that you want to remember or that you' re going to remember. Not really, not at all definitely. So, then for once, if Zombies, Strippers and Catch In Berstan the same way, what I do have to tell you is that I' m really stuck in the music part. I don' t know about you guys musically, but I was recommended people there on the Internet, people who follow me a long time

ago. I was recommended to a group called he Warning, which is a group of Mexican girls from Monterrey. If anyone here knows him or has seen him, he' s very good. I mean, no. I' d been excited about rock again and warny' s The truth is, the girls in Monterrey. They' re super good, they' re very virtuous and if they play like a metal, but it' s very close. Suddenly it' s like new metal. Suddenly. Don' t remember Vanessa other times to lin king back, other times to Garbage, one has some

touches. Over there, sometimes half punks. So, if it feels fresh, it' s good. I haven' t been so excited since I heard who the strorcks are. I could be exaggerating a little bit about the stroks, but come on, they' re great. I mean, maybe in one of those and they' ll tell me if they give a guy who lives with the strocks, they could be the Mexicans. They can be

more virtuous than strakes. But I really like your music anyway. I don ' t have so much at the level of the first Straks album, for example, I go even with some spring songs, but so that same effect generated me as well asórales rock if it still exists, as they say, if we can keep rocking Forever Forevers with the warning. Listen to him, listen to him. Warning flames are some girls from Monterrey. They are three sisters and the truth is very, very good. It' s worth

it. They played at the Metropolitan a little while ago and they did super well. So, there' s the session on the YouTube channel. There ' s the whole Metropolitan concert session. His name is Daniel, the Pauline and Alejandra Villarreal are the sisters and his dad is sound engineer. Then he

fixes them all up and they sound great. The truth. If you see someone' s hand when I heard, when I heard the music and I said this sounds very stylized, they sound great, it' s like very well taken care of, I mean it' s not like a rock group to win. No. And if they get him in, they put his distoras chas super well. And the drummer' s amazing, too. And the bass player' s fine, too. But the drummer is visually very interesting. The drummer makes a lot of gesture and is in the drums,

that is to say if she has touches complex things. And the guitar player also seems very good to me. Then see the warning. There are songs I like more, I like a lot and evol are the ones I like the most. Then listen. I already gave them a picture. I' m going to give you another picture. The Warner of the Sisters, as

I told you, is called Sisters Villarreal. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That' no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

s what I thought at some point. They' ll be relatives to decide because I don' t know, but they do very well. They do it pretty well and I kept thinking because I didn' t. They would also need collaboration, as it is a matter for everyone. Everyone is collaborating with someone on the issues of I don' t know, for example, in the reggaeton and in the urban. Everyone collaborates with someone, because the

rockers are there, too. I feel like the rockers are dying here, in Mexico, where we' re good, but like here we' re already, I mean, except for The Warning, the rest aren' t bad, we' re nothing anymore and they should do something, a little collaboration and I don' t know who with spring would be good. Warning with the spring would be super good. I don' t know if the band that listens to us is already here incorporating Catalina Cevedo, there' s

Andrew Broa. Greetings, Greetings to all who are here. Good night, Carlos Paco, good night, good night, Andres, Catalina, I' m going to get you. All right, win, you' re doing good, and I' m talking to see what' s up, see what' s up? You think so. I don' t know if they' re fans of metal tell us, open the comments tell us, if they' re fans of heavy metal rock, what kind of or, just pen weight or what' s going on. Yeah, maybe I just

weigh feathers what rhymes in their lives I say and nothing happens. No, not this one, I wouldn' t judge them I' d say we don' t judge anyone here. Maybe we don' t judge anyone, but yes for their jobs, do we? We judge that we do not judge their people, or we morally try not to judge, but by their jobs, and that is part of this project. Well, we' re

more now, since we' re more here. We have the star system on Facebook, we have the sticker system on YouTube' s super chat, and you can also punch them whenever you want in high fidelity, in the chest a world, as they carry the trafivity of magacin. It is also part of that project that we want this project to grow for everyone who is here and we want to be able to begin to reverse that look Carlos Andres

Mendola or hearing aids has to see it. I think the most invested is because it is in another world, live, in the first worlds, Cristina Chrissis, and if it already has a super microphone and has its hearing aids, but yes, we want to grow there, then we want it to be sustainable. And everyone here wants me to be sustainable, so, come on, come on, come on, come on? Let' s keep doing a little bit more often, not just good ones. I don'

t know if the streamics, because everybody' s gonna say there. Yeah, it' s not inchutu, but I' m saying what I' m gonna do is, I mean, let' s talk a little more poop. This is to make it grow and thanks to the people who have been supporting us, to continue to support us forever. Thank you very much. And I was about to put it there. I put a pen here chatting with you to put on Twitter that you come to watch the broadcast. He' s already posted a post and it' s all wrong. I

mean, I told him. I didn' t even write anything and already tells him they tell him I don' t want to, no, I want him right now. It wasn' t enough to stand up to the enemy paus and for people to say what' s going on. And now you go with him. Güey' s past, because exactly what' s going on. Well, what' s going on we started with we' re going to talk to you Detective and Paco had seen ferrari and how you ' re holding on and we' re going to start holding up. I

think we should do it out there. We must do it in that order. Tell us a little more today. That' s a Michael Man movie, which is a director who has some movies son of Michael Mars. Yeah, I mean, as a hit, as a collateral, of course you have yes there, I mean I' m really not the most suddenly fan of many of those things, I mean, like, yeah, I think you' re either doing really well or you' re doing really badly.

Not because I forget it with the collateral tena. It' s good, well, it' s got several, but yeah, yeah, it' s good collateral, yeah, yeah, yeah, it' s got it there like its things. So, then, does Ahorita Ferrari just like it focuses on the bankruptcy stage of Enzo Ferrari' s company and Ferrari' s cars and then how do they really try to lift it through the car races and the way they wanted to also like change a little bit the way they

were manufacturing their cars? And so I also see with Enzo Ferrari' s personal life and this movie, because then I had that as just that premise. And so has Adam Driver, who is Enzo Ferrari, and hardly Lope Crust who is Enzo' s wife, and Shilind Goodley, who is loved to overwhelm. And at that moment, then I think that the film as such doesn' t really ever get off and knows what it wants to tell, nor does it really get too involved. Even Shilinkbuty can' t commit

to his accent, which is terrible. Yeah, I think there' s a lot of casting mistakes starting with her, and I like her as an actress. Yeah, she thinks she does, she does well. I mean, she' s a good actress, I think she has, she' s had good roles, but here she' s definitely not at all right

for her nor at any time can she give like the width. I' m telling you how he wants to make an accent all the time, which made me laugh a lot, because he' s committed to him for five minutes and then he forgets it. And it' s terrible, because how much unemployment you want to remember and when you realize that kind of thing,

you can stop paying attention to it. And if it deviates enough, and neither is it that the film does much to keep you attentive to something in particular because, as I tell you, it is very uneven what it wants to tell, as it does not decide if it wants to be like a reflection of the life of suffering at that moment or wants to tell a little more about the crash so intense that there was just that year, in the

fifty- seven in the race. I do not remember which of these great Peks there is in Europe, which is where there is a very strong Ferrari accident, which also takes them as a reference to certain decisions, so as not to decide between what to count Good and Adam Driver, because it is

just right for the moment to have it. Pecus is also a lot left over in what makes a couple of good sequences, which has its sound out there is also has there some sequences of cars that to me, in particular, I feel that after I saw by Fort against Ferrari a few years ago, this Bible with Christian Dance and with Christian Bale, comes out with itself, Matt Damon, it is not Mat Damon, it is not until now I tell you, but yes it is this, there is an artist da

and it is not more cute shop nor yes super that is really a great, great car movie. I really think she' s one of the best I' ve seen in a long time, apart from not only from the way she combines the story very well along with the part of the mobiles, but the way they edit and make that also bring you at once to this

emotion. Then I think that part here fails them a lot. Try to put in sequences of races that nothing, that is sadly compare them to this type of fur that you say no, because it does not reach even the

men the truth in this sense. So, I see it as a very failed film really everywhere, although even if I don' t want to rescue something I think it doesn' t happen and see that Adam Dreden seems to me like a great actor and I don' t think he does it at all wrong because I don' t miss it, because I love it, of course, but here too I think that he doesn' t look and overacted. No, then I tell you to miss it a little bit, his work as an actress is badly neglected, because he is very, very

because apart it cures quite a bit. Then, yes, I invite you to miss it again. How sad that we have these kinds of situations on the billboard that, for example, this weekend was very loose. But the one who comes is so much. Then we will be recommending more things to

them so that now they do see more things in movies and billboards. But don' t spend this time to watch the next week, for two or three films in the cinema And today this FIP, because save the films that come to the race this time, oppose the day they missed last week. Exactly. Well, that' s fine. Otherwise, I wouldn' t want to see the truth. After what you say, after what you say low, I don' t want to see her. I don' t want to see ferrari because there' s a big disappointment. We can throw

it away no, but it' s not hot. Then don' t see her. I take this opportunity to tell you that you can follow Paco Marín Empaco ML Opaco bass screenplay on Twitter and Paco ML seven on Instagram. Paco ML screenplay on Twitter and Paco ML on Instagram. Follow him also to Carlos Andrés Mendiola on Carlos Andrés Mendiola on Facebook, Carlos a Mendiola on Instagram

and Tiktok. Carlos Andrés Mendiola on Facebook and Carlos Amen Hello on Instagram and tiktok, and there you can follow it thanks to the people who are with us, thanks to Ricardo Reyes Hi, Ricardo Reyce Ay Silvia Rosas, how you are alone. Matt Damon, Ricardo ray said Yes, it' s Mat Damon, it' s against the impossible and he told us about Daniel Villamir that he' s already with us raising his hand. That' s how they put me in the court and we' re there, so we

warm him up and we don' t listen to him. But we' ll listen to him now. Daniel villa vile Hostal, as you' re all seeing your Detective. Then everyone wants to participate in your detective. I want to tell you, this fourth season was so good for you. He ' s got 12 5 million viewers. She' s the one who' s done the best four seasons. She' s a Mexican to the show runner and sa Lopez really proud and already told her you' re going to do the fifth season. I already told you hbo then it' s fine.

I want to start by saying that I' m very excited. There was a little spell that I tell you why. But, but I feel like it' s finally pretty. I mean, it' s healing, poor Paco ending you' re gonna suffer him, but good. I think I' ll be like this, like the warning, like the song. No. No, no, no, no, no, that' s how it' s gonna be. There' s a song from the Warning.

The warning is all like that for me is what I hear all the ways, after going to the kids and pling plim and this I everything that today in them I don' t know how Zenon' s farm, what more all the children' s songs, this Jorge Villarreal with the zombies.

Anyway, that' s all the warning. I hear the warning, so I feel like I' m listening to something more adult, more adult, a little bit, because well, if you' re adults but you' re sick, you' re in your twenties, I mean, we' re already, yeah, I' m on the other side, but well, me feel young. At the same time, notice that yes, as in it makes me feel I' m listening to adult music and it makes

those of twenty you identify with those of twenty Stads. No, no, no, I mean, if not, no, maybe the thirty I don ' t know. Someone once told me that maybe the thirty. When someone on account said the twenty, he didn' t say no the twenty. It' s because you don' t have money in your twenties. You ' re not just starting from heaven and in the thirties you already have a career and even, I mean, you' re more done and you still

have energy and it' s clear, it' s true. He was right about that man, that good man who knows how he' ll be. I don' t know if he' s still alive, but, well, I hope so. Well, all right. Then that' s what I mean about your detective. We' ve already talked about this, this series. That' s the end. It' s already in the end because it' s six episodes, the fifth and the fifteenth, especially the fifth A number of critics didn' t love it and the sixth certainly

not because I am right now. I talk to them because I want to listen to my colleagues. Then quick for those who don' t know. Your detective is an anthological series, I mean, every season he tries something different. He' s a murderer, a murder to be solved. I had the impression that they were killer cereals. But, well, here he breaks the rule a little bit, or spoiler, but well, we all know he paid I think he already knows right now, but he' s

known it before. But, well, then, in your detective this fourth season happens in Alaska, in a fictional town called is Alaska, which surely exists somewhere in Alaska, that is, there' s some similar town, a town that suddenly falls into the night. You can spend several days in a couple of weeks or even a month at night because because of the position that this time does not give you the sun, the sun hides and vampires arrive. No, that' s another movie, but then he can be

down a few days without the sun. And it' s something very crazy and it' s something that, yes, it' s like it' s in a state as a dream medium and the characters in some way, everyone in town knows that ghosts are there. Then it' s something very nice the way you handle Salópez. The story' s from two cops. Chaddy Foster is the head of the investigation police and she is fond of the police, but mainly they are in charge of research poetry and they are.

I forgot the name Navarro, but to see the name of the man, of his Aska, of his tribe to see Chipitikk, I don' t know. In the end, well, evangelisingel Navarro, who was also part of the investigation police. We don' t know what happened to her, but they already took her out and put her there on patrol and I didn

' t put Foster on patrol like they' re from another rank. They don' t pay much attention to them, and they encounter a murder of six investigators or what if it' s six investigators who die and there' s one who' s lost. There' s not one that' s lost out there and they don' t know what happened. But they die mysteriously. So frozen in the je. So, what happened to them, we don' t know, and suddenly they find at the crime scene, well, not the crime scene, but near the crime scene, that at

the investigating station. They' re in the middle of the ice. There, in the middle of nowhere. Practically and in your investigative headquarters let' s say you find the language of a girl who was a case that they were several years ago, a murder case. Not then, because there, more or less we see that we are talking about an important issue, which is the part of misogyny and violence against women, but that these subjects have

to see. And that' s where we' re going to start to see what' s in this town, what' s behind these characters and what' s behind it, yeah, that' s right now, who killed them. But it' s interesting. It is interesting how isá López addresses the drama that all people live. I don' t remember. I saw her a long time ago and the other two I didn' t see the truth, but I don' t remember it taking so long in one

to approach the characters. You guys remember me already. It' d be great if we didn' t, so we' d talk about it later. But anyway, I liked López' s treatment and now I do, guys, Paco first and if you want to already, then you can go. And for or in spoiler at the end how, I mean, it ' s up to you right now, you haven' t finished it. You' re missing half a chapter. You' re liking me, I mean, I mean, the truth is, I really liked the first season.

I really liked what you said. Yeah, I think it' s very different what' s going on right now in this one here, because it was much more focused on a criminal case. There was little real approach to the characters as long as they had a real background of them. We had brush strokes, of course, in that season. I think they' re very, very good at how that season of active treit works. But not like this one and I saw the second one, which is pretty badass

and that made me not see the third one. I went back to the fourth right now for Isa López, who I like quite a lot later, after I saw them come back and that I saw just his comedies also that he has here Mexicans that are not bad, they are really entertaining. It ' s a comic film here in Mexico, but no, but I' m sorry, no more parentheses. If you watch those shows, you' re good at it, but you don' t think it can develop a potential like your detective. Yeah, I am, then they come back,

yeah, they' re coming back. It' s a great Mexican horror movie that has a lot. If you see them come back and then you see to study Techtive like you do a lot, so it' s the same person who' s behind them both by the way in the supernatural just,

the way, in the horror cap, how it builds attention. I think all this is there in your detective and I like that he hasn' t given up on that style, which gives a very different haro to this kind of police series that suddenly I feel he needs it as well as this thread, because mystical no, that I think I think very well too or very wisely at the time of choosing this town of Alaska and putting in like all this animal wave from the beginning, how they are putting it in the

wave also as of the people the local that lives there, the islation also that has with mysticism and with death, that is clear from the first chapters, how it establishes it. I think that gives a very different touch to this season and that it is very much of her as director and author and I like her to appear this season. I think jedie foster loves it here, I like to see her enjoy this role. It looks like he enjoyed

me quite a bit. Yes, I suddenly like these subjects that are half more, because we could tell them sloppy and sensitive, all of a sudden they come to appear as in this question of we are seen by a resolution much more attached to a question so emotional. All of a sudden, what other things that can suddenly happen in a police series, although it' s not a police show, but I think you know how to use it very

well in the series. I' ve enjoyed it quite a bit. The truth is that and now I am dying to finish it, so regret the chapter in which you comment so that you spoil it at ease. We' ll be a few minutes away. But yes, because I think it' s a series that fortunately made a lot of noise on social networks and that people knew how to love it. And so, good thing you guys knew

how to believe he already has a fifth season. So, how good for Isa López, who is doing this work in great measure and who is staying right now. There, as hbo' s show corner I say it' s not what I want that wasn' t practically unknown Mexican, really because, at the end of the day, I had here in Mexico two comedies and a horror movie that sadly had to share refectory with coconut at the time. That was two thousand sixteen. Probably the year it premiered because it was

with coconut. I remember very well that when I went to see her I had already seen coconut right at the Festival of Morelia and I came back here to see back that it was the premiere and all the people were formed to see coconut and I and almost went late to the function of returning because I could not pass from the box office already entered and the room empty. It wasn' t like only watching the movie because, sadly, people didn' t see it, because, because we all wanted to watch coconut at that

time over and over again. And so, that half darkened Isa' s work a little bit. But I think that now he knew how to take advantage of his great break through that too, because he was a little covered by Guillermo del N who had a lot of faith to Isa López and he surely put it in very good what a good eye. Also, it does happen, and well it made it as well, to be there and then make the most of it right now, because it has the talent And it ' s good that people are knowing it will cry that way. It'

s, yeah, it' s not great. I' ll share some with you. The subject of that bump that you feel in the fifth episode is why you were criticizing it. And that bump consists of, because it tells you, the thing goes around here in something very complicated, very mystical, very twisted and suddenly you realize that it' s something like three times simpler, even as you can think one that policely and perversely you say is

not so complex. However, I think it has the virtue that the emotional theme, as Paco says well is something so strong and so interesting and the characters want them so much and you say now it goes you know me bank and I stay with you and finally we go the sixth. You also get all the time how it' s going to work out, how it' s going to work out you' re hooked. It' s very good.

It hooks you up if you find a way to hook up, that is, with the editing, with the way the Cliphangers are telling you about the drama. This uff is great. I say I loved sorry Danielito Villamil, you didn' t mean it Paco. If you want this one, I' ll get something. I promise, if you don' t just shovel them all. Good night, everyone. Eating this detection and seeing it, that is, I recommend it. I also say I didn' t finish seeing him, but I doubt anything will happen right now in what I

lack time to see the chapter he makes me, not recommend it. So what happens see come back from there sá López also if you haven' t seen her, run to see her, because it' s a great, great movie of my Mexican favorites of recent years. So, good night, everyone. Okay very well, well there' s super paid this very well, well and all. So the theme here is Daniel Villamil. That' s the thing. Yeah, what else, tell me how you' ve been living them. Just like Paco mentions, I started seeing her because I

saw them come back. I really liked it. That' s right. In the movies, I don' t think anyone saw her. I didn ' t actually see her. I saw her in the movies. I don ' t remember if cousin was suddenly in prime they took it off. She came back, I think she was in big now, too. I mean, he' s become half a cult and he' s half- fought with not- so- big stream services, but he' s tiny and

then he goes to another one. So it' s not that easy to catch but it' s worth it a lot and I think from there you realize if you saw the first movie and then you see the series, that there' s the same map, because there it' s playing with the supernatural part again, but it' s not exactly a detective part, but they' re investigating something to the kids, because that' s a kid movie and in and then it' s very interesting that it explodes here.

But you notice that you already have experience, that it is not your first show, if it is your first series of this level, but you notice all the practice that already brings back and then makes a great series. For me the bump in the series more than the fifth. For me it' s the fourth and in fact I think the fourth episode is bad, but because there are many writers, almost all of them she writes alone, you

write it with I don' t remember good with another person. And the fourth is where I think it' s four or five people who write it, and then you can tell that every writer brought his subject and, as they can stick it, it' s not quite achieved. In fact, it kind of ends that episode twice and does go a little bit down to the series, but then comes the fifth, which for me has a great scene. If you haven' t seen her, no more will I tell

you what prior is I think the best character outside of the protagonists. He ' s the son of another cop who is and is the right hand of this one, Johnny Fons, Lenny Foster, and then we' re also getting to know his family, that his dad is a jerk and wanted the position of boss. But since he' s useless, they don' t give it to him. They give it to Joddy Fuster and the guy' s a good- hearted. They tell us why his wife fell in love

with him, how he helped someone who just died his father. So a great person and what happens to him in the fifth episode I had a lot that there wasn' t a series where I felt ugly for a character is like what big scene he' s well prepared for, not pulled out of the sleeve. I' m not going to tell you what, but I think that goes to the show on another level and that the end keeps it playing with that mystical part ghosts again, as we want to see it,

even a little bit, with a little cosmic horror. I' d say there' s like certain away from a little. Yeah, there' s a Lovecraft cover, I mean the thing or John Carpenter' s, that adaptation of one novel after the other, but it' s Prafian mela that novel. Yes, and we see it at the beginning of the episode of

the series. In fact, scientists have their film collection. Obviously, they have zinc and in the final episode it pays a great tribute to the poster that the well for those who do not know it is a guy in the north pole brings his super jacket, brings the cap, but you see a light instead of the face of the character and they, when they are investigating the level bring a lamp on the forehead. And then it' s a great tribute that for fans of this kind of issues, because we know why

he' s doing it and if not, nothing happens. It' s just a scene that looks pretty. But there you realize again how she' s been spinning everything she likes, everything she' s been learning, everything she' s put into practice and manages to pass this series that closes very well and that aside they come back if they give you an explanation, whether or not it' s this, whether or not there' s better said a mystical, magical musical element, and here it leaves it very open,

because during the same series Dambers tells you, which is the character of Jety Foster. Not all the questions are going to have an answer and not or you' re not asking the right question then in the end it' s very good, but it leaves you with not open in what there is.

I don' t know what he ended up in. If they give you an end, if they give you a resolution, but they let you, as a spectator, choose what you want or what is the conclusion you come to as a detective, so to speak and I was really excited to watch the series. I mean, don' t insist, it' s been a long time since you' ve felt so much about a character and the one from the end. If I got a few screams of emotion, I mean, it wasn' t scary, but they did or this happened then.

If he catches you in the show, yeah, sure, sure, sure now that' s interesting. The Navarrese has a very strong connection with the dead and see people, yes people and but many people in the village and it is a game there psychological and symbolic with the theme of the night,

because you are like in constant dreaminess. Then you might think that you ' re out of your mind power by the cold and that there' s a psychological condition, but you can also think that ghosts are really there and that this tradition of the tribes that once inhabited Alaska and that there are still remnants of those Eskimos tribes, because that mystical tradition permeates the whole town.

Not then is it suddenly become something of a shamanic theme there and that' s why everyone has that ability to see other deaths and other people who are no longer there. But it' s true, in the end, like it kind of leaves it open and kind of doesn' t, because finally, if there are times when Navarrero sees people and everyone sees and happens things related to those people they see, that is, scientists, they' re

initially found, because there' s a ghost that appears. That ghost, moreover, is the father of the character who makes mcconagy more in the first season. So it is true, that the end is open, but at

some point it is. I think she does believe in that leaves it open, because to make it more interesting for people, for people to decide or for a lack of commitment, I don' t know, but I feel that there are too many clues as to whether ghosts are present and if they are taken as true, even though there are characters who don' t believe them at all who don' t believe in them and the whole not like

me as a foster. In fact, for me there is that good element, yes there is, obviously in history, but I think it does give you enough to say yes. There are ghosts in this town, because the actress who is the character of the earth tun in Carter just forgot her name. She' s the one who says it and who sees Matte' s father' s ghost who was his lover. She doesn' t think so

exactly, but again they have this part of the narrator. Untrustworthy, because they' re telling you one thing, but they' re showing it to you and it' s not totally how they tell you. So you' re open as to whether she really was the one who killed the dad. Then the way it connects to that first season is very good, because if

you saw the season you get more excited. If you didn' t see her, you don' t feel that you lack something just like ah well, they mention another character, they mention the Turu family for those who saw the first season. And it' s how it doesn' t matter. If you didn' t see her, it won' t affect you. He' s very well armed. I mean, you don' t need more than what they' re showing you. And I remember a week or two ago I read that Isa had actually presented this project as just Niket Country.

And when Pizzolo said that Pilate pitzalato, yes, yes, the runner show of the first three was already seeing to work with another with creator of the series. Yes, the creator of the series was already watching work with another television set. So Cheveo says good. Yeah, but another detective is ours, and the pitch that this Isa gives them decides what. Yeah,

we' re gonna throw it, but make it another detective. So, that' s why it' s like that mirror to that first season where instead of two men, they' re two women and they have that connection to the cult, to the Spiral symbol. But I insist it is also armed that who I do not see the first season does not matter. I mean, it' s like the beginning of Marvel movies. If you saw Iron Man, you were excited to see Tony at the end of Holk' s, but if you hadn' t seen her. Oh, well,

Robert down came out and June was mique. No, and they' re not even in your Face on the show, because they' re just, I insist, name mentions. What we do see a lot is the Spiral. But the Spiral has its own explanation in this series. So it works really well, I mean, it' s really a great product. I ' m in the fourth episode, if you haven' t seen it when we see it saying it like it' s gone here and I think it is, but I still insist, like too many writers and they don'

t know how to tie up all the plots well. But the fifth one rises again, especially with the end that it gives and has a very satisfying ending, because it closes what should close. There' s one or two things they leave on the air, but it doesn' t bother because you say it' s okay, it doesn' t affect me because you locked up what you had to shut me down. Yeah, I feel like the prayer ending was a little lame, so I kind of need to see more

of it, so you see a really good character. He' s a character who has an i e per bajo, prier, pardon, priyer, works with jodie foos three as his right arm and she functions as a kind of maternal figure is super brought by Pani whatever you want and the bread is over Yes, as it is, as it is. So the poor guy is losing, he' s about to lose the marriage because the other one doesn' t leave him alone, that is, he' s calling him at night all the time. Then the other can' t have life and

has a very interesting conflict there with the dad. His dad' s a cop, but he' s also a cop who' s already lost his way, lost his faith. This one doesn' t want Jodie Foster, but it' s weird, and it kind of doesn' t act in an ethical or congruent way. And the poor guy also just paid a Ukrainian girl, pays a wife or baby to come. So that' s the kind of character we' re seeing in this cop, that then we' re going to see the fate that has quite tragic and his son is involved

in it. That prior journey is very good, that is, the confrontation with his father and, above all, that we will later have to see him with his son. It' s strong. It' s like a son, and now it' s his turn to deal with the son what ' s going to happen. No, and because some strange reason has nothing to do with it. I' m not saying it has anything to do with Nis Lopez, but I started finding clips. You know on Facebook that

you suddenly get magical. Sometimes things happen to you there that you see on TV and clips of Zeus and cronos and chronos begin to come out devouring the children and then seust has his dad crono to banish him and take control. So that Priers character is very strong and it hurts him. It hurts what it does and it hurts what it' s going to have to face. And well, women are there an important point of this father. See it from a point where they touch and finally, there is a very nice soriety

there and it is very healing Carlos Andrés Mendiola. All right, well, I liked the show. I' m from the group who hadn' t seen any of the other seasons. So look I' m learning and they ' re also commenting on the chat just these connections that Dani was making. It caught my attention in principle by Jodie Foster. It seems to me that, in addition, the series has very clear this guiding thread because we are

going to solve this mystery that, yes, is very unusual. Not what ' s up with these men out there frozen in the middle of nowhere, half- naked in very rare positions. And so all this is like very, very unusual. But what I like most about the series that goes on

one side, they solve that mystery well. I mean, it didn' t seem like something out of my hair and in the end, yes, to see that we made up and tied the threads of what we were telling, but I think that a great virtue of the series, and that in part of what you have been commenting on, is how throughout the episodes these characters are unfolding to us. Not then do we learn who this character of

Jodi Mostter is, who Evangelie Navarro is. We know where they come from, what they' re doing with their families, what their interests are.

We see that these characters I believe as few characters suddenly have the opportunity to see in series, in s and in the films that are very human characters, that is, that you see them in all these motivations, you see that they have failures, you see that they have then, for example, we discover that they have their little things out there in the closet, that they are not so cool, so positive, but you understand that I think

that also is a great virture of the series. Not that we can, for example, right now, that they were talking about the father of prior we can say children, yes, what a nefarious guy. But, on the other hand, you are very sorry, that it is this gentleman who is hoping to have a wife again and then I already pay for her and I go horror. Yes, this is not spoiler, because it happens in

the first episodes, but and the woman never arrives. For example, right now that you were also talking about this whole issue that happens all at night, everything happens in the northern village. It' s the last days of the year. In all these matters. Sure. Sure, sure, sure,

they' re super symbolic. They pay a lot to this idea of this game between what is real, what has to do with ghosts, what has to do with it as with its own imagination or with its own desire or need for characters, because there is also a lot of this question of some characters of what they made happen or some issues that are not prepared to leave, for example, with the Navarrese people, which is a very harsh

story. Not because we see this good both see them as these empowered women, intelligent and so on, but who have emotional, emotional sexual needs. We see in her case the whole question that has to do with her brother, with her mother, this psychological background that is also a great weight also before her and that, in a way, can connect a little with what

we see there. In the end, also that I' m not going to say anyone cares, but that I think he' s very father, not because he also gets us a little bit into this game in between and that' s how he says, it opens there too. That kind of thing has other circumstances that make you think it' s backed up with ghosts with various facts and doesn' t have these details that' s good.

Then yes, not that. It' s Evangelin' s crazy, she ' s got this evil gene that' s going to drive her crazy or she sees exact ghost, yeah, if she doesn' t get into the game. No, because I think we are in this same situation of certainties as the characters, but we also have other aspects that we could have different intrans clear, totally agreed. And these are the parts of the fabric of history. I mean, how the plot is going to be, how it ' s going to bend to make us, to make us look interesting.

But here it is funny, that is, the man of men. There they are as a secondary medium, except for a brief hour, and there is a narrative in which women are the main protagonists, i e, and the man, because there is a medium, there is half a second and, in fact, I believe that men are the ones who have the ones. I mean, I think men' s conversations in general are about good, not all, but prier because the whole guy is in the conversions he has, he' s about his wife or other women. It' s

interesting this twist that Isa does. But, well, the characters, I mean, all the characters, they' re already alone. They' re deeply alone. Yeah, all the personals. Also, with this environment in the middle, in the middle of the night, in the middle of the ice, the moment you go to sleep, you are alone with your thoughts

and suddenly you can be harassed by ghosts of the past. And all of a sudden it' s your own loneliness and all of a sudden it' s your sins too and you have nothing to hug you from and the sun doesn' t come up that' s strong and that' s nice? That' s nice nice? And find a way for characters to hug in some way at the end, and that' s great. It' s tragically poetic. Yeah, it' s not a real one. I think he' s gonna win everything, the semis and the prizes coming up.

I feel because it has, I mean, it has a good edition, the music is great, the performances, the script is really cool, you can even see it as a western, because it' s the two sherefs, so to speak. They have to deal with the Indians, it' s worth the expression of the people, they have to dictate the law and in the end they have to go as good or the hero. In the end, you can' t stay The violence is over. He has to leave because the not- good hero in the western hero is not the typical

hero, but this one who doesn' t like violence. He has to go back, he has to solve and in the end, since he leaves the town well if he has to go towards the horizon that ends like this, because, as Carlos says well, everything is in the night and when it ends the sun returns. Then let' s say the heroes go to

the horizon with the sunlight. I think you have a point I' m not, I mean, you don' t have a thing or two for the Western structure, but you have an interesting point, I mean, I don' t think I' m seeing this already making a rather adventurous assumption, but I think it' s the female vision of what a Western could be, I mean, there aren' t these women who don' t have an agreed hour to meet the other to mourn and kill themselves, which

is the violent world of men who kill you or die, you kill women in this in this series is not necessary, it shouldn' t be necessary. Then that element is missing. But, on the other hand, it is yes, there is a time when you are right, at the moment when they are the shefs who are going to put order in a world where there is no order and they are fighting or they are facing these Indians who are forces that they do not understand or that they do not, of which

they are not part. Then it' s true. I mean, the other age is very well handled in this series. It' s interesting. I remember a lot. I insist it is a test reading of the country of the long leaves, that speaks about the tribes of Eskimos and there are different tribos of Eskimos to see I will not tell them all we are that I read it, but there are some Eskimos that were all the time being nomads. They are all the time on the ice well traveling in one place

to another. And there are other types of Eskimos that are a little more settled, and I think there are others that are very good. And it ' s the novel. It happens at a time when colonization is already taking place. Then there are many Eskimos who are already Christians and are beginning to change their traditions. And it' s interesting to see this, because there are tribes that keep old traditions and I don' t know how to say

Christians. I don' t believe it or I don' t know what you think, but surely many of your beliefs are still rooted in how Eskimos tribes behaved hundreds of years ago. The theme of walking in the snow. According to the country of the long shadows, when someone was already old they didn' t die there in the iglup, what do you do with him, that is, they gave him a little wood and gave him their ace

towards their little ones. It was going in the middle of the ice, the fire was going on and when the fire was over it would die there on the ice. That' s one thing and the characters we' re going to see there have a tendency to go on the ice and walk and

get lost. And I say I don' t know if López studied it this way, but somehow it' s symbolic the fact that as ice calls you not like you go out and get in and already told you the eternal dream, as you lose yes, in fact, of the ice and the snow that at the end of the day, is water, because water also has an important element in Prior' s story and if it has like this game of water transforms, the water can change things and in this case,

well, it transforms into ice in the snow, which also has to do with up to here the story of someone and certain ghosts that are seen are seen as coming out of the water. Then you also have that part of symbology with this one that is very interesting, very small, very hemanic. It is very Hamanic, because exact water transforms yes, just as it is

a good observation hear forgiveness nothing more quickly from this spriure. Ah no, so, right now, I' m putting you to Prior, detective prier who this is talking to Dani the first we' re going to buy it I' m going to put it on for you to see. I say if you' re hearing it, you can' t see it, but it' s one. The character is the one we' re talking about. It' s Jodie Foster' s deadline, in fact, and he ' s a young man, even though he' s married to a girl

of origin. Eskimo and I' m saying it. I don' t know if and if that' s the name, but well, if they ' re what they were, Eskimos and he has a son, no, and it' s this, well, he' s got his strong and interesting bow. There for tragic and painful and Ahorita will also make it the

same if you are listening, well. Daniel Villamil commented that the thing has a poster where we see a character who is in his snow suit, in his snow suit, his pachancita suit, he brought a little peace of mind and in his face, his face is not seen, but a light is

seen. No. Then it is also true there is a moment in the last episode, if it is the last episode, nothing more, it is not in the six more, where they are in Navarro and the character of Jodie Foster, Kyle Ree is called there the actress of Navarro who plays going to Jay Navarro, who in the end you find. Excuse me Well, he' s not here, but he finds. That is, they all have a tribal name or a man of their ancestors, because of the Eskimo

origin. And then, Evangelin, in the end finds that name and finds it a sleeve very for and also a lot of man and has very magic. But, well, then, these two people, these two cops, are investigating the ifscuia and the snow and they bring son, Vaniel, is showing them one need on their head in the letter is a great boy. Ass yes, because apart the two of you are wearing the hood are in the snow and nothing else is seen the little bit and the father is that

it is a little bit. They' ve been using it since the first episode. So it' s not like ay ay ahorita, because since it happened to me not to the little bit. They' ve always been a good lamp better said, they' ve been using. But there it is

already open to do the wink altogether. The homage to Carpetter' s film, which I insist on seeing it, is another one of those, another of those cult films that I think didn' t last two weeks in the cinema, but thanks to BETA and the VHS became a cult film and we all love it and it' s worth it and you can see the influence it had on this film and right now with what you were saying about Navarro

' s name. I like that a lot, because both of you could do better if you see her, let' s say a little cold. They could both have a simpler life. But she can' t because she

doesn' t know who she is. She doesn' t know her name and feels like she' s missing something, and Yodi is left with the character of Dumbers being broken by something that happens to her son and her husband who ends up hating the viruses that separates that, she feels so flawless about vittles I feel like it resonates with me very much how she hates and freaks out when she hears twist an chaut if I don' t remember, but as they tell you the story of both of them you understand why and in

the end they make the passes with that part and that' s why they can make that leap, that step to the next level and has that final superiors, Camarita, which is the same thing we saw in the first season. part with an interview as a closing of the court case, there are two So again it' s those parallels that if you saw the first one, you get it right and you say ah look, that' s a good wink. Thank you And if you don' t, then it'

s a right way. If you' ve seen any other cop shows that you know that when there' s something they have to investigate internally, they record the cops for testimony, then it works really well in any way. I insist on the room, if you' re just going to see her, she' s going to yell at the room if it' s regular, but one out of six, I think it' s a very good percentage. Of course it' s fine. Carlos ads begs something to close

see you see the worth much, much worth good series. If you want to marvel at something, look at how Paco said you wouldn' t go to see a lot of things in the movies, because you can take the opportunity to see your detective there in hbo very well, because hey Yeman Snows, you entered Snows. This was the maple entering detective. But there are manifes here that are about eleven at night. Left hand' s cool with

you. There' s forgiveness, sorry, sorry I' m late for Dimon Slayer' s show and as soon as I got out, I tried to get there scratching, but look, yeah, I got here fine, no, I didn' t, I did, but I did, but I didn' t. We' re not going to talk about demon Laws. It' s already eleven o' clock at night, not and other days. I don' t bring you any more The thing is, I don' t arm it. If we stay talking about Mons Leyer, that ' s the thing. I say if not, another time we can hang

ourselves a little bit more and maybe. The program would have to last longer, but we' re not going to make it by hand. Excuse me for a public apology. Look in front of us, yes, hearing we are going to run away, but we are not going to make it better. Down or come by to say goodbye. Ah, see avatar live action. It' s really good. Yes, Carlos Andrés already to the so,

whether he is or not you had his doubts. You' re asking him hears that I don' t know what position it is that I don ' t have the reference of the animated version, but these carry two episodes of the live action version and well, I' m already seeing that more do have the reference. I really liked the first episode. I thought it was even very good approach, super emotional. In addition, it is well

acted, has good visual effects. It' s long, it' s almost a little peliculite, we could say that first episode took the second, which I also liked. And so, speaking of maratone, you know that I' m probably going to be seeing tomorrow and Saturday. Yeah, well, all right, listen, because I' m not leaving you, I guess not. Yeah, that' s it. I agree with Carlos that it' s worth seeing anyway. There are going to be elements that are

going to add to expand the series. Yes, for anyone who saw the animated series, it is like reference points, but also like adapting certain things that in the same series did not. And yes, Netflix is really learning how to have to make an adaptation, how to respect characters, environments, understand what it takes to tell a story. Yeah, move it from what ' s already cheered up, but also take it to liaps a live action. I think they' re doing well and it' s worth seeing him

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