Doing More Won’t Fix It: The Hidden Side of Personal Growth with Ryan Gottfredson

In this episode of the People Warriors Podcast, Heather sits down with Ryan Gottfredson—leadership professor, researcher, and bestselling author—to explore the hidden “being side” of personal and leadership growth. Together, they unpack the difference between horizontal and vertical development, the mental blocks that quietly hold us back, and why true transformation starts from the inside out. Along the way, Ryan flips the script and coaches Heather through his process live, bringing these ideas to life in a personal and practical way. If you’ve been working hard to grow but still feel stuck… this episode will help you see what might really be in the way and how to move forward differently.