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People I (Mostly) Admire

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Freakonomics co-author Steve Levitt tracks down other high achievers for surprising, revealing conversations about their lives and obsessions. Join Levitt as he goes through the most interesting midlife crisis you’ve ever heard — and learn how a renegade sheriff is transforming Chicago's jail, how a biologist is finding the secrets of evolution in the Arctic tundra, and how a trivia champion memorized 160,000 flashcards. To get every show in the Freakonomics Radio Network without ads and a monthly bonus episode of Freakonomics Radio, start a free trial for SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.
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130. Is Our Concept of Freedom All Wrong?

The economist Joseph Stiglitz has devoted his life to exposing the limits of markets. He tells Steve about winning an argument with fellow Nobel laureate Milton Friedman, why small governments don’t lead to more freedom, and why he’s not afraid to be an advocate. SOURCE: Joseph Stiglitz , professor at Columbia University and chief economist at the Roosevelt Institute. RESOURCES : The Road to Freedom: Economics and the Good Society , by Joseph Stiglitz (2024). " Equilibrium in Competitive Insuran...

Apr 27, 202456 minEp. 130

129. How to Fix Medical Research

Monica Bertagnolli went from a childhood on a cattle ranch to a career as a surgeon to a top post in the Biden administration. As director of the National Institutes of Health, she’s working to improve the way we find new treatments — despite regulatory constraints and tight budgets. SOURCE : Monica Bertagnolli , director of the National Institutes of Health. RESOURCES: " Steven Levitt and John Donohue Defend a Finding Made Famous by 'Freakonomics' ," by Steven Levitt and John Donohue ( The Econ...

Apr 13, 202456 minEp. 129

EXTRA: Remembering Daniel Kahneman

Nobel laureate, bestselling author, and groundbreaking psychologist Daniel Kahneman died in March. In 2021 he talked with Steve Levitt — his friend and former business partner — about his book Noise: A Flaw in Human Judgment (cowritten with Olivier Sibony and Cass Sunstein) and much more. SOURCES: Daniel Kahneman , professor emeritus of psychology and public affairs at Princeton University. RESOURCES: Noise: A Flaw in Human Judgment , by Olivier Sibony, Daniel Kahneman, and Cass R. Sunstein (202...

Apr 06, 202442 minEp. 27

128. Are Our Tools Becoming Part of Us?

Google researcher Blaise Agüera y Arcas spends his work days developing artificial intelligence models and his free time conducting surveys for fun. He tells Steve how he designed an algorithm for the U.S. Navy at 14, how he discovered the truth about printing-press pioneer Johannes Gutenberg, and when A.I. first blew his mind. SOURCE: Blaise Agüera y Arcas , fellow at Google Research. RESOURCES: Who Are We Now? , by Blaise Agüera y Arcas (2023). " Artificial General Intelligence Is Already Here...

Mar 30, 202456 minEp. 128

127. Rajiv Shah Never Wastes a Crisis

After Haiti’s devastating earthquake, Rajiv Shah headed the largest humanitarian effort in U.S. history. As chief economist of the Gates Foundation he tried to immunize almost a billion children. He tells Steve why it’s important to take big gambles, follow the data, and own up to your mistakes. SOURCE : Rajiv Shah , president of the Rockefeller Foundation. RESOURCES: Big Bets: How Large-Scale Change Really Happens , by Rajiv Shah (2023). " The Root of Haiti’s Misery: Reparations to Enslavers ,"...

Mar 16, 202457 minEp. 127

126. How to Have Great Conversations

The Power of Habit author Charles Duhigg wrote his new book in an attempt to learn how to communicate better. Steve shares how the book helped him understand his own conversational weaknesses. SOURCES: Charles Duhigg , journalist and author. RESOURCES : Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection , by Charles Duhigg (2024). " 2023 Word of the Year Is 'Enshittification ,'" by the American Dialect Association (2024). " When Someone You Love Is Upset, Ask This One Question ,...

Mar 02, 202448 minEp. 126

125. Is Gynecology the Best Innovation Ever?

Cat Bohannon’s new book puts female anatomy at the center of human evolution. She tells Steve why it takes us so long to give birth, what breast milk is really for, and why the human reproductive system is a flaming pile of garbage. SOURCE: Cat Bohannon , researcher and author. RESOURCES: Eve: How the Female Body Drove 200 Million Years of Human Evolution , by Cat Bohannon (2023). “ Genomic Inference of a Severe Human Bottleneck During the Early to Middle Pleistocene Transition ,” by Wangjie Hu,...

Feb 17, 202449 minEp. 125

124. Daron Acemoglu on Economics, Politics, and Power

Economist Daron Acemoglu likes to tackle big questions. He tells Steve how colonialism still affects us today, who benefits from new technology, and why democracy wasn’t always a sure thing. SOURCE: Daron Acemoglu , professor of economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. RESOURCES: Power and Progress: Our Thousand-Year Struggle Over Technology and Prosperity , by Daron Acemoglu and Simon Johnson (2023). " Economists Pin More Blame on Tech for Rising Inequality ," by Steve Lohr ( The...

Feb 03, 202445 minEp. 124

123. Walt Hickey Wants to Track Your Eyeballs

Journalist Walt Hickey uses data to understand how culture works. He and Steve talk about why China hasn’t produced any hit movies yet and how he got his own avatar in the Madden NFL video game. SOURCE: Walter Hickey , author, journalist, and data expert. RESOURCES: You Are What You Watch: How Movies and TV Affect Everything , by Walter Hickey (2023). " France Gave Teenagers $350 for Culture. They’re Buying Comic Books ," by Aurelien Breeden ( The New York Times, 2021). " How I Escaped a Chinese...

Jan 20, 202451 minEp. 123

122. Arnold Schwarzenegger Has Some Advice for You

Arnold Schwarzenegger has been a bodybuilder, an actor, a governor, and, now, an author. He tells Steve how he’s managed to succeed in so many fields — and what to do when people throw eggs at you. SOURCE: Arnold Schwarzenegger , professional bodybuilder, actor, and former governor of California. RESOURCES: Be Useful: Seven Tools for Life , by Arnold Schwarzenegger (2023). " Arnold Schwarzenegger: Environmentalists Are Behind the Times. And Need to Catch Up Fast ," by Arnold Schwarzenegger ( USA...

Jan 06, 202440 minEp. 122

121. Exploring Physics, from Eggshells to Oceans

Physicist Helen Czerski loves to explain how the world works. She talks with Steve about studying bubbles, setting off explosives, and how ocean waves have changed the course of history. SOURCE: Helen Czerski , physicist and oceanographer at University College London. RESOURCES: The Blue Machine: How the Ocean Works , by Helen Czerski (2023). " Ocean Bubbles Under High Wind Conditions – Part 1: Bubble Distribution and Development ," by Helen Czerski, Ian M. Brooks, Steve Gunn, Robin Pascal, Adri...

Dec 23, 202345 minEp. 121

120. Werner Herzog Thinks His Films Are a Distraction

The filmmaker doesn’t want to be known only for his movies. He tells Steve why he considers himself a writer first, how it feels to be recognized for his role in The Mandalorian , and why he once worked as a rodeo clown. SOURCE: Werner Herzog , filmmaker, author, and actor. RESOURCES: Every Man for Himself and God Against All , by Werner Herzog (2023). The Mandalorian , TV show (2019-2023). The Twilight World , by Werner Herzog (2021). Family Romance, LLC , film by Werner Herzog (2019). Fitzcarr...

Dec 09, 202351 minEp. 120

119. Higher Education Is Broken. Can It Be Fixed?

Economist Michael D. Smith says universities are scrambling to protect a status quo that deserves to die. He tells Steve why the current system is unsustainable, and what’s at stake if nothing changes. RESOURCES: The Abundant University: Remaking Higher Education for a Digital World , by Michael D. Smith (2023). " Diversifying Society’s Leaders? The Determinants and Causal Effects of Admission to Highly Selective Private Colleges ," by Raj Chetty, David J. Deming, and John N. Friedman ( NBER Wor...

Nov 25, 202347 minEp. 119

118. “My God, This Is a Transformative Power”

Computer scientist Fei-Fei Li had a wild idea: download one billion images from the internet and teach a computer to recognize them. She ended up advancing the state of artificial intelligence — and she hopes that will turn out to be a good thing for humanity. RESOURCES: The Worlds I See: Curiosity, Exploration, and Discovery at the Dawn of A.I. , by Fei-Fei Li (2023). " Fei-Fei Li's Quest to Make AI Better for Humanity ," by Jessi Hempel ( Wired, 2018). " ImageNet Large Scale Visual Recognition...

Nov 11, 202344 minEp. 118

117. Nate Silver Says We're Bad at Making Predictions

Data scientist Nate Silver gained attention for his election predictions. But even the best prognosticators get it wrong sometimes. He talks to Steve about making good decisions with data, why he’d rather write a newsletter than an academic paper, and how online poker led him to the world of politics. RESOURCES " Not Everyone Who Disagrees With You Is a Closet Right-Winger ," by Nate Silver ( Silver Bulletin, 2023). " The 2 Key Facts About U.S. Covid Policy That Everyone Should Know ," by Nate S...

Oct 28, 202343 minEp. 117

116. Abraham Verghese Thinks Medicine Can Do Better

Abraham Verghese is a physician and a best-selling author — in that order, he says. He explains the difference between curing and healing, and tells Steve why doctors should spend more time with patients and less with electronic health records. RESOURCES: The Covenant of Water , by Abraham Verghese (2023). " Abraham Verghese’s Sweeping New Fable of Family and Medicine ,” by Andrew Solomon ( The New York Times, 2023). “ Watch Oprah’s Emotional Conversation with Abraham Verghese, Author of the 101...

Oct 14, 202349 minEp. 116

EXTRA: Nobel Laureate Claudia Goldin on "Greedy Work" and the Wage Gap

Claudia Goldin is the newest winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics. Steve spoke to her in 2021 about how inflexible jobs and family responsibilities make it harder for women to earn wages equal to their male counterparts. SOURCES: Claudia Goldin , professor of economics at Harvard University. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising....

Oct 09, 202343 min

115. The Future of Therapy Is Psychedelic

For 37 years, Rick Doblin has been pushing the F.D.A. to approve treating post-traumatic stress disorder with MDMA, better known as Ecstasy. He tells Steve why he persisted for so long, why he doesn’t like calling drug use “recreational,” and what he learned from his pet wolf. RESOURCES: " MDMA-Assisted Therapy for Moderate to Severe PTSD: A Randomized, Placebo-Controlled Phase 3 Trial ," by Jennifer M. Mitchell, Marcela Ot’alora G., Bessel van der Kolk, Scott Shannon, Michael Bogenschutz, Rick ...

Sep 30, 202353 minEp. 115

114. Is Perfectionism Ruining Your Life?

Psychologist Thomas Curran argues that perfectionism isn’t about high standards — it’s about never being enough. He explains how the drive to be perfect is harming education, the economy, and our mental health. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 16, 202359 minEp. 114

113. Do We Have Evidence of Alien Life?

Avi Loeb is a Harvard astronomer who argues that we’ve already encountered extraterrestrial technology. His approach to the search for interstellar objects is scientific, but how plausible is his argument? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 02, 202350 minEp. 113

112. Reading Dostoevsky Behind Bars

Reginald Dwayne Betts spent more than eight years in prison. Today he's a Yale Law graduate, a MacArthur Fellow, and a poet. His nonprofit works to build libraries in prisons so that more incarcerated people can find hope. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 19, 202354 minEp. 112

111. Can a Moonshot Approach to Mental Health Work?

Obi Felten used to launch projects for X, Google’s innovation lab, but she’s now tackling mental health. She explains why Steve’s dream job was soul-destroying for her, and how peer support could transform the therapeutic industry. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 05, 202356 minEp. 111

110. Drawing from Life (and Death)

Artist Wendy MacNaughton knows the difficulty of sitting in silence and the power of having fun. She explains to Steve the lessons she’s gleaned from drawing hospice residents, working in Rwanda, and reporting from Guantanamo Bay. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 22, 20231 hr 2 minEp. 110

Extra: An Update on the Khan World School

Sal Khan returns to discuss his innovative online high school’s first year — and Steve grills a member of the school’s class of 2026 about what it’s really like. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 15, 202325 min

109. David Simon Is On Strike. Here’s Why.

The creator of "The Wire", "The Deuce", and other shows is leading the Writers Guild on the picket lines. He and Steve break down the economics of TV writing, how A.I. could change television, and why he’s taking a stand even though he’s at the top of the game. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 08, 202358 minEp. 109

The Economics of Everyday Things: T. rex Skeletons

In the newest show from the Freakonomics Radio Network, host Zachary Crockett explores the hidden side of the things around us. This week: How do dinosaur bones emerge from the Upper Cretaceous period to end up in natural-history museums and private collections? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 01, 202319 min

108. Ninety-Eight Years of Economic Wisdom

Robert Solow is 98 years old and a giant among economists. He tells Steve about cracking German codes in World War II, why it’s so hard to reduce inequality, and how his field lost its way. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jun 24, 202354 minEp. 108

107. Bringing Data to Life

Talithia Williams thinks you should rigorously track your body's data. She and Steve Levitt trade birth stories and bemoan the state of STEM education. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jun 10, 202359 minEp. 107

106. Will A.I. Make Us Smarter?

Kevin Kelly believes A.I. will create more problems for humanity — and help us solve them. He talks to Steve about embracing complexity, staying enthusiastic, and taking the 10,000-year view. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 27, 202357 minEp. 106

105. Can Data Keep People Out of Prison?

Clementine Jacoby went from performing in a circus to founding a nonprofit that works to shrink the prison population. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 13, 202351 minEp. 105
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