Part 2: Rich Cooper versus Andrew Wilson

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All right. So a little I just kinda wanted to shit talk a little bit, tell you guys about my life. Is that cool? This is gonna have nothing to do with the topic. We'll get into the topic. But this has nothing to do with the topic. I like to kinda I like to kind of spitball some thoughts I have. Okay. I like to kinda so the first I really want an N-word pass. Okay. And I think I talked about this last year. I really would like, I'd like to say what's up, my

And I really I'm requesting from the blacks. I'm requesting an N-word. And the reason I want an N-word pass, it's not because in my life, you know, like I joke, but I don't have a real reason to be dropping the N-word. Um, I think I I maybe say the F word a little bit too much. But like it's not like something I crave, you know.

But I just like to feel included. Sue me. I don't like feeling left out. You know, it's kind of like that party that you weren't gonna go to anyway. The invite is nice, you know. I want to say, I want to be able to say N word in Paris without a care. You know? And okay, I'm a little racist, but okay, just because I'm racist, that doesn't mean I hate black people. I think we need to differentiate people that hate black people and racist.

Racists notice a pattern and that pattern is very stark, but I have no hatred. In fact, some of my best friends are black, you know what I mean? But they don't like it when white people say that. They're like, well, you can't, that doesn't, you could still be a racist. And it's like, well, I think I am a racist, but can I be a racist with black friends? I mean, I'll even date interracially. Like, I mean, what racist white girls love black eyes?

So I just think that I just like to feel included, you know? I don't know, I don't like being left out. It's just like you guys get to say it. Why don't why don't I get to say it? You know. I woke up early this morning. I like the crack of Um, I woke up at like five AM and it wasn't because I had anything to go to. I just um Not last night, but the night before. I was on my phone too late. Sometimes I get on Instagram reels and I'll be up till like one or two in the morning.

So it's like it was my own fault, but I fell asleep at like nine. So ten, eleven, twelve, one, two, three, four, five. You know, if I wake up at five, that's eight hours of sleep. And I'm like Um my man, it was his birthday today. I don't know if I'm supposed to. I'll just say I made banana bread this morning and I'm like, okay. So I go to the store. I go to the store and um Sorry. And all the stores are closed. And I'm like, okay. So I I walk to Walgreens.

I get my banana bread ingredients. I make banana bread for breakfast. Some coffee. I know it's not the most healthy, but you know, there were some ripe bananas. What are you gonna do? So um I get my my stuff, I make my banana bread, and I'm walking outside and it's like pitch black. Like the sun is not up. The only people that are up are the homeless people. And I'm like.

Am I better than everybody else? You know, I always would kind of make fun of people that get up early because they just think they think they're so great. They think they're better than everybody else, you know. But I found myself thinking the same thing. I'm like, ha ha, I'm up before all of you guys. Where is everybody? Why aren't the stores open? Get up, everybody. Now, I guess it's situational because the area I was in, it's mostly nine to fivers.

So, you know, but I'm like, you guys don't want to work out before work? But you know what no one tells you about working out before work? If you want to go like, I don't know what your normal life is, but when you start because recently I used to stay up like all night, but recently I I'm not an early riser, but I normally get up at like seven or eight.

And mind you, when I was in London, I used to stay up till like two or three in the morning all the time. Actually, it was worse than that. Sometimes it'd be five or six. It was bad. I would do these shows late at night. You know, it's kind of part of the reason I stopped doing the panel shows is because I just was not that schedule aged me. I'm like, I'm already hitting the wall. I don't need to hit it harder, you know. So I've been on both ends of the spectrum, right?

And the issue if you consistently get up at 5 a.m., because I used to do CrossFit at 5 a.m., is that if you do anything social on the weekends, you're so tired. Like staying up past 10 feels like death. feels like death. So I don't know if anybody has any thoughts on like getting up early or staying up late. I just um I just had the thought yesterday. I was like, I am better than all of you. Or this morning. I just thought I'm better than everybody. I am awesome. I just get up early.

9 p.m. sleep comes for me. Yeah, I think some of you n see, I don't have the pass. Maybe one of these days I'll just, you know. Um, I'm trying to think of any other ideas I wanted to spitball at ya. Um Oh, I kind of had a coffee talk about this, but I don't know if I articulated it right. I'll just say this. Um I was thinking about an argument I've had in the past. And this had to deal with a woman, right? And this woman was mad at me because I didn't include her in something.

But this woman also meticulously bullied me, right? When I was younger. And I was thinking I was thinking about this concept. And I'm like, women will be so mean to you and then play victim when you don't invite them that's invite them to things. Isn't that kind of incredible? You're like That's kind of incredible.

They say getting up early shows discipline. Does it? I mean, if you get the work done all the same. But you know, I did I did start to have that attitude in the morning. I was like, yeah. Yeah, I'm better than everybody. Yeah, work I don't know. When I worked a nine to five, I did 5 a.m. for six months and I utterly hated it. But back then I had a lot less discipline with my phone. Lot less discipline. So You know.

You know, guys, if you start saying, you know, if you're trolling in the chat, my mod's not here yet because I'm I'm kind of early. He's got a he's got a day job. Um, but I will just ban you. I will just like it's not that difficult for me to ban you. All of you! Really, I felt like that. I that's how I felt.

All right, all right. We're gonna watch this Andrew Wilson. I gotta first go to my last debate and uh my net last stream on it and just see where I left off. Let me get the timestamp on the video. 21 minutes. I think I was like 30 minutes in. Let me see. I'm gonna go with like 25 minutes. It's close enough. Okay. Also, congratulations to Rachel Wilson. She was on Joe Rogan this morning. Andrew Wilson. I might, if I get through this, um. I may I may um Okay, let's see. I might react to that too.

Yeah, marriage is worth it if you get the right woman and keep God in your relationship. It's bold of you to assume women have God. That's bold. Okay. Father. Notice I don't say friendly towards fathers, but not hostile towards father where the outcome is a default fifty fifty arrangement. And later we're gonna have a guest come on. Um, and give us a history lesson. So um

Yeah, I will have to take a break to grab the delivery. So I'm concerned with. Yeah. So the outcomes for the kids are obviously better when the parents stay together and you reduce the risk for the mom to leave dad. And Kentucky successfully did that. They lowered the divorce rate by twenty percent by assuming default fifty fifty custody on divorce. She would have to Okay, you're saying godly women are rare.

They don't exist. I've never met one. I hate to say it. Every woman I thought was godly, her life choice is proved otherwise. Godly women. Uh, you're telling me you know better than Paul? He said he met one good man and no good women. Really? Like you're telling me you have met better women than in biblical times. That's how I know it's just simping. It's like the utmost degree.

gangster or something like this where it would warrant her getting custody. But if you live in that state now, they're seeing the divorce rate drop by twenty percent. Well then you've created but then you've created a contradiction. You've created a contradiction here, Rich, because earlier when I asked you, I said Rich. It why is it that if you're in a low risk?

Hey, if you're in a low risk category as a group for getting divorced, shouldn't you do it? And you said, Well, any risk is too high, but now you advise that men go to a state where they still run hang on, hang on, hang on, Rich, hang on, let me finish. Let me finish, bro. Let me I just heard you out. The contradiction here is obvious. If I ask you why shouldn't people who are in already mitigated low risk?

groups for getting divorced shouldn't do it. You say because the risk is high if there's even one No, but they always they always manipulate these statistics. Like it's a low r like none of it's that low. I mean the lowest risk is like Russian roulette. You mean you don't want to play Russian roulette, do you? Anyways.

And I go, Okay, but what should they do then to raise children? You say, Well, they should go to some place where it doesn't assure them not getting divorced. Well that's the only thing I but by the way Okay, if I had to rank like hierarchy of cucked and like divorce, I don't think divorce is the worst thing to happen to a man. In fact, I know a lot of guys, I mean, okay, they

They got some bitchy woman at twenty-two and then they divorced her at 32. Or she divorced him at 32. They didn't see it coming. They were heartbroken. Yada yada. But now they get the date younger and hotter and better in every way. Um, and they did recover financially because they were around thirty two too. Like the worst divorces are the ones where the woman waits like a long time, you know. It's kind of nice to have silence in your old age, you know, as a man.

And hang on. It only helps mitigate the risk. And it's like, but that's my argument. My argument is that these groups are already mitigating risk. Why is it that you shouldn't be gravitating towards the groups which mitigate risk when that's your advice to men now? Great. So what we're saying then is Kentucky. Mitigates the risk better than okay, you cause you can say they have like a lower divorce rate or whatever. Like he's he's basically saying, join my religion, right?

And I mean, you can say that, but it doesn't matter because it still defaults to the state. Like you can say, yeah, you're less likely to get divorced. from a religious woman, but it's like, is she less likely to get fat or I don't know, be a bitch? Like, I mean, most of the conservative women I know beat their husbands to death over the Bible. Like

They just use the Bible as a way to nag men. Like, if anything, I rate them as worse than relig than liberal women because they just use their theology to tell men they're not good enough. So I don't and there's so much more per performance. My God, there's nothing more performative performative than the marriage of an e-girl. And um or even a religious woman in church. It's like they'll be the devil behind closed doors, but in church, oh, I love the kids and my husband.

And this is always the cope. They don't, whenever someone's not perfect and they do what people do, right? Which is sin, all people sin, they say, well, they don't count. They're not real Christians. I'm the moral one. I'm I'm moral. You're not moral. I'm super moral. Look at me. And then half the time it's like Elijah Schaefer banging some e-girl. You know what I mean? Like it's it's just incredible. Then they just try to differentiate themselves and tell you how great of people they are.

And then they're like, why don't people want to join my church? And I'm like, well, because you guys are insufferable. Insufferable. Um yeah. So, and then whenever their leader that says the right things gets caught um doing what everyone else is doing, they say, Oh, well, we gotta make sure we don't judge and forgive. It's like, I'm gonna kill myself. Yeah, here we go. Christianity isn't about being perfect. But anybody that's not perfect, you say they're not real Christians.

It just never ends. It never it's like it um it just never it like never it's like a circle of logic. Gets caught doing the bad thing, then they say and then They say they're not, it's just it never ends. I mean, pastors are more likely to have emotional affairs, emotional and physical affairs. Which would make sense because they're on the stage. Women love banging men with microphones. I mean, there's nothing that gets a woman wetter than a microphone.

Including me, you know. It's like the guy's in the has the microphone and you're like Christianity. No, it doesn't. Apparently. No, it offers, it assists with a de incentive, but if you were a Christian in Kentucky, then your risk would be mitigated by double.

We're going back to the ought to, you know, in a perfect world for Christian. No, descriptive is right this second, if it's the case that it's lower than the national average, overwhelmingly, which it is, and then you combine that with this incentives. Okay, but there's a couple problems with the statistics that they cite. One Um, the overtly religious tend to be over a certain age. So like what they'll do is they'll do a survey saying like people go that go to church this many days a week.

are they more likely or less likely to divorce, right? And so it's like three times a week. But you don't know who started going to church, you know, two or three whatever it is, the like bar for counting is their religion. And then the wife said, I don't want to go anymore. Now they're not counted, right? It also so it's already like a bad sample. Like it's a bad way to calculate it. It also doesn't count in um

I mean, social media is gonna be detrimental to young women's mental health, right? Like a quarter of women are in SSRI. So how can we predict what women are gonna do in the future? Um, like you're marrying women that are addicted to their phones, you know? So how does that translate into the future of marriage? Um

So there's just a lot of way like even I think they s I don't know if he's citing it now, but they cited an Amish statistic. They don't include the people that left the Amish. They don't count as Amish. So if you have like a hundred people and half leave the Amish. I wonder what percent leave actually women from the state. It sounds like it's a very low risk endeavor, right, Rich? It's it's it's a high enough risk well what do you c and also what do you consider low risk?

Uh it's not worth any man to live in a way that looks like marriage to the government. I mean, like even You just had to move to a place where you gotta let me talk sometimes too, okay? I've been letting you talk. Heavy Orthoda like Eastern Orthodox countries like Russia, the narrative is still women get eighty percent of custody orders, right? This is So across the world. This isn't just in North America. This is how we see family courts and religion. apply to men and women's lives.

And the whole point of a marriage sorry, the whole point of of of marriage and children, you would say what? To pass on your name, pass on your DNA, to name your sons that leave a legacy behind? What would you say it is? Well it depends on the world view. From the Christian worldview, we feel that there's a commandment to do so to women don't care about God.

And it's every time, whether it's me or a different woman, I I'll even, you know, I'll be the scapegoat. It's like, yeah, women can say I don't say I'm religious, but every woman that I I okay, I'm gonna just list. The all the women that said they feared God are either divorced, one has nudes on the internet. It's like

All the ones that say they fear God, it's like none of your life choices suggest that you fear him. And it's not to insult you because, you know, I also have life choices that don't suggest I fear God either. But It's there's just no evidence that shows women fear God in any way. Multiply and to get and for the most part for most men to get married, not every man's called to do that, but generally speaking, most of them seem to be. They seem to want to be with a woman. I'm pro surrogate.

That's the only true patriarchy is surrogacy. They seem to want to have child children with her with that woman and they're commanded to do this from a Secularist perspective or non Christian or non religious person, it seems to vary based on things like you mentioned, perhaps legacy, uh perhaps they have different incentives for why it is that they want to do that.

Uh I couldn't I couldn't begin to tell you all of them because secular marriage to me is bizarre. It makes no sense. I I don't know. Yeah, there's a a lot of church fearing women. The problem is they're f or God fearing women. The problem is they're like fifty, they're pretty close to death. Not many women fear God when they're young. I I don't even understand it. But I do want to make much sense in general.

I think marriage does make sense in general. No really it fails most of the time. It doesn't fail most of the time. That's a lie. It doesn't. It's it doesn't you look at the data around the people that show me the data that marriage fails first. Let's start with that. What with what? Sorry. The data that marriage fails most of the time. Yeah. So when you look Well, I don't need data, I need my eyes.

I can think of five couples from back home where on paper their marriage didn't fail, but one of'em, the wife's got completely obese, right? I mean, sure, the dad's chubby, but the wife is like a whale. Right. Another one, um The wife is complete bitch. She undermines him all the and so like again, what the religious people want to do um is they wanna say, look at my data and don't believe your eyes. And I'm like

Like even Lauren Chen, why aren't you your husband's b of religion? Why don't you have his last name? And that's so common. Like I just don't know many women that do marriage in the traditional set. It's like pick and choose marriage. It's like Like in all honesty. Yeah. I wish there was a higher barrier to entry to marriage because I don't think most women deserve the title of a wife. I don't. I don't think most women are wise.

And unfortunately, any simp that gives a woman a title, now she can brag on the internet and say I'm married and now is an authority figure, right? Um Anyways, it's just I like I just I only would say I know one woman, maybe two I could think of that actually submit to their husbands and all things. Look at the data on people that live in a way that looks like marriage. So Uh there was a study done, uh Aaron and a civido covered this um

The effects of uh love on long-term relationships. And they found that less than thirteen percent of people in the study, and I can't remember the count, I think I wrote it down over here. Hold on a second Thank you. Six it was six thousand something people, six thousand seventy people over a span of eight point eight four years.

And again, the title of the study is Does Long Term Relationship Kill Romantic Love? Twelve percent are in love and three percent are in a state of obsession or bliss. I think that's why most guys would want to get married, is they think that they're gonna be in a state of obsession or bliss with their wife in a perpetuity and

be granted access to uh lots of enthusiastic sex whenever they want it. And that's not the reality that most men experience when they get into it. And some of that data supports that. suggesting that most people that are still together over eight point eight four years don't even like each So you're saying that yeah, the divorce rate is I don't know, forty something percent or whatever it happens to be.

Then you gotta look at the people that are staying together, that are staying together out of maybe convenience, cause they're too cowardly to leave, they're not good enough looking to leave, they might be poor, they might have other anchors sort of tying them down. But there's a lot of people that stay in long term relationships that don't even like each other. Like the chances of you being in love with your spouse is very low. So why? Two

Yeah, so what? So the the question here that I'm asking you is Well the point is in long term relationships'cause you're saying it's worth it. Great, but let's live in a way that look like marriage and I'm telling you the data suggests that that's not reflective of what Here here's the problem with the argument where where it holds no muster and it doesn't even contend with what I'm asking.

What I'm asking you is if you wanna have kids, you wanna have children Well the well and you want good outcomes for the children. Yeah, and the other thing, we are not going to be able to predict, like, we're not going to really have data on the new forms of marriage that come to be. Oh, two dollar super chat. Thank you very much, Phil.

Um, like a lot of people are gonna come up with ways around getting married. And we're not gonna really see the outcomes for the kids for like 20 years. I I think that um I think in the future male surrogate are going to produce some of the like Einsteins of the world. But I'll be almost dead by the time I really get that data. Oh my God, a$50 super chat.

You didn't have to do that. Keep up the good work, Pearl. Looking good. Love your channel. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Made my day. Thank you. You guys are so nice. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. What is what other than marriage? from a r especially from a religious perspective, is going to create better outcomes for the children, Rich. That's the question. Now you keep defaulting to what about me, the father?

What about me? The pr the the this guy. I I get hang on, I get that. This is the angle, this is the prompt. Yeah, but the thing is is like kids. And so they want their kids to have good outcomes. And so right, but they want like their own kids. Um and the only way that they own their children is through surrogacy. Um, you cannot like the ol the only way you can be a patriarch. Like, cause you can't be a patriarch if the only way you're a patriarch is if the woman decides. Like she has to decide.

You have to be able to fire her. There has to be an enforcement. And there's just no way a man can enforce it. Yeah, assets are not even the biggest issue. Losing the children is. And unfortunately, I don't see any prenup in that case. And it's not even just um, like even if the man gets 50-50 custody, the wife undermines him constantly. Like there's so many times where like the kid doesn't like the father because the mom's always in the kid's ear. I saw this happen in my hometown. Um

for with like kids with married parents. That happens in the same house. So until until there's an enforcement, if you're an employer, you don't have authority until you can fire the person. Uh, without losing the kids, right? Because most men aren't gonna wanna fire somebody with the kids in the house. Oh, how are men gonna have their kids have good outcomes? Yeah, okay. How?

You have kids with a woman, you don't live together, and you parent them together in separate homes. What's the difference? That looks the same as divorce. That looks the same as a divorce arrangement to me. How is that different? And that's the unfortunate reality of the world that we live in today. What? So your solution is If you get so your here's your idea. Your idea is the man who's if you get divorced hang on, here's what you just said. If you get divorced, one of the

Am I allowed to respond? Is that the men are still the head of the household when they run the relationship that way versus the house? Do you know what? Another$50. Thank you guys. Thank you. Okay, I really l I actually like the living separately idea. But there has to be once the kids hit a certain age, they should live with the dot.

Um, maybe like the mom takes care of them till they're five. I was actually thinking about this the other day. I think age gap relationships are ideal. Like, um, you you know the speaker at like Trump's White House press secretary or whatever? You married that dude that was like 30 years older or 20. Hear me out. You marry a 50 year old as a woman. You're 25. You marry a guy that's 50.

Um, you can actually go work. Now, you might say, Pearl, Pearl, Pearl. I thought we don't want women in the workforce. Well, we're in 2026, right? Hear me out. Uh the mother's only gonna destroy the kid, right? That's all we do. I we're not too good on like so okay, you have her watch it the first three years. After that, the dad, I mean, it's better for the child if the dad takes the kid. And the dad's gonna be damn near retired. So he he, I don't know, what's retirement age? Sixty-five?

But a lot of the time by 50, they can work part-time. They could, I don't know. I mean, you guys tell me more about your careers. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm just, it's just a thought exercise. Um, the woman, she doesn't want to be a mom anyway. The mothers today they don't like about their kids. They don't care about their kids. So it's like send her to work to do something she cares about.

Yeah, uh women mothers aren't good at teaching women children responsibility speaking in general, not absolute. Yeah, so I thought about it and I'm like, she can go cheat at work. Who cares? He's got his kid, right? I mean, she won't, you could just like let her like cheat at work. Just let her and just pretend you don't know. Just pretend you don't know, you know. Pearl, one day you're gonna regret all this this woman hating content.

You sound like a simp. I hope your balls drop one day. You know. The husband is supposed to keep the mom in check if she's effing up the kid. Men should not be the one to raise. No man signs up for being cheated. Yeah, but it's gonna happen anyway, so you might as well adapt, right? Oh no, I don't want to get cheated on. Well, it's 2026.

2026. You're probably gonna get cheated on. I don't know why you don't just accept it. Oh, Pearl, I don't want to accept that. It's like, well, it's probably gonna happen anyway. You might as well adapt you might as well help her find the guy she's gonna cheat with. You know what I mean? And then you could even work it out with the side dude, right? You could if you put your emotions aside, right?

You could say, hey, side dude. She's been an absolute cunt. Can you take her for a week? And then you could get a side chick too, right? Yeah, because it's like you don't want her to leave and take the kids, you know? Yeah, the husband's supposed to keep the wife in. I agree with that, but um what authority do they have to do that? So So I'm just I'm just saying. Oh hell no. Well it's gonna happen anyway.

Similar still sorry? How are they ahead of the household if you're not even living together? There is no household. You're paying for everything. Yeah. So your solution is have two separate houses. So you're paying double for two separate houses and then split parenting time. Split parenting time with the woman? What's that? Your your I Okay, I wanna see something. Average Mortgage cost?

All right, the average mortgage cost is two thousand. Okay, average apartment cost. It's gotta be higher than that. It says two thousand to three uh two thousand to two thousand three hundred. And the average apartment is thirteen to thir okay. This seems low to me, but okay.

Yeah, I'm I'm just saying you could like cause it would be kind of nice when she's acting up, you could banish her. Like you could just you could send the woman to an the other house and say you're banished till you come back with a nice attitude. And then she's like, Oh, I don't want to and then you just take the kid and leave. But then she'll call the cops. You see it's the same problem. Oh no, I'm gonna call Tyrone. Well she's gonna call Tyrone anyway.

Pay for two different domiciles and then split parenting time with the woman. Now, if we had a divorced relationship, you would be living in two domiciles and splitting the parent time with the woman. So if the hang on, so if the risk of divorce is, well, you may not be able You gotta grow up, dude.

Do you think she's get a ring camera, it's gonna happen anyway. Women, when they wanna cheat, they'll find a way. Oh no, she might bring someone over to the hook, then she might get banged out in her car. Oh no, that would never happen to me. Are we gonna grow up yet? Can we just like can we just be adults here? Well, we gotta be reasonable here. Women uh marriage is just gonna be for the upper class anyway.

I don't think this is the and plus she could get like a teaching gig. Or if he's fifty, he could be almost retired, you know. Well see your kids. And you may have to be paying for your thing. I don't think that men are needed to be gonna let me let me finish the parenting when children are small. Let me finish. my point. Yeah let me finish my point and then respond to it. Then respond to it after I after I finish it. There your worldview just showed that there's no distinct If I get a divorce

I have to pay for my wife's new living or ex-wife's new living arrangement in a new domicile through child support. And then I have to take care of the kids. Under your view, you're just saying go ahead and cut get cut right to the end and go ahead and begin paying for her domicile and support. It's liberty you're just asking men to live like they're divorced. No, that's not what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't think it would be living like you were divorced. I think I said this last time. Um, because

Like you guys could hang out, okay. Let's say he he works nine to five. He comes over two or three nights a week for dinner, puts the kids to bed, maybe spends the night two days a week. And then on the weekends, the whole family spends it together. Yeah. Like I don't really think that's the same thing. It's more like living like you have a baby mama.

Yeah, it's like living like and baby mamas and baby daddies, they can't stay away from each other. I mean, if you want to see a love that lasts a lifetime, you look at baby mamas and baby daddies, they'll have whole new marriages and still be banging. You know what I mean? That's a love that lasts a lifetime. That's something that lasts a lifetime. There's no difference. Yeah, there is a difference because the court.

Well, hear me out. I'll explain it to you. All right. The court is running the show when you get divorced. Women run the show when you get divorced. They they leverage family law for their benefit. They're getting eighty percent of the custody orders. Uh whenever there's child support that's required, it flows from the father to the mother. If there's alimony that's arranged, ninety seven percent of the time it goes from the father to the mother.

And she controls most of the outcomes in a un unilateral fashion when it comes to the family court. But if you're with a woman and she says, Hey, I love you, and you say, I I love you too, sort of thing, and she says, You know, let's have a family, I like to have kids, you say fine.

But here's my boundary. I can't live in a way that looks like marriage to the government. So I'm gonna pay for a house, I'll rent a house, I'll look after you, I'll come and visit you and the kids. Um, but we can't live in a way that looks like marriage to the government. Now, Rich, what prevents the woman? Can someone do the math on how much you would have to make for that to make sense? Am I gonna react to Rachel being on Joe Rogan? Maybe, maybe.

Maybe later or tomorrow. Maybe I'll do it tomorrow. Since since there's children involved. What prevents that woman from going and pursuing child support anyway and just breaking up with you? She can, but she doesn't get any. These does this doesn't mitigate anything. Yes, it does. No You don't have to lose half your shit. You're already paying for half of their shit. You're paying for all their shit. No, you don't lose half of your assets, Andrew.

Plus, maybe find a bitch with some family money or with like a decent job. I mean, you need four hundred and fifty K to make that work. Okay. I mean, do kids need a house? I just feel like there's gotta be other options, you know. Yes, you do. You're already paying half your assets so this woman can live apart from You're not you're not you're not living in a way that looks like marriage to the government.

You're not married, you're not living in a way that looks like marriage to the government. You you understand the difference. No, see I would want to ask Rich what the logistics that like, how would that look? The people that I he yeah, see here's the thing. Andrew doesn't know what he doesn't know, right? So like how does he know that that is a bad idea?

Like again, we're not really gonna see how this plays out for an number 10, another 10, 20 years. Maybe you tell the woman, hey, if you're still here when the kid's seven, we can get a house, but I need a seven year. I think that would be reasonable, right? You say seven-year investment of your time. And when the kids eight and they need a backyard to like run and stuff, uh, we will get a house.

When okay, the parents in the chat, what age do you think? Cause like if a baby's in an apartment, is it really going to remember it? Like, I mean, I don't remember anything from before I was like four. How necessary is the house? Like, how many square feet? How many square feet at what age does the kid need? I mean there's like parks outside, you know. In Japan they all live in apartments. Those kids seem well behaved, you know. You can even get like

A townhouse, like in a city, you know, in an apartment next door. Like you could live on the same road. Anybody? Anybody any comment on the house, apartment? Trailer kids live in a four by four and they call it legal. I just I'm honestly asking the parents' observations for how much space the kids need. You know, I'm no, I'm just thinking like uh what an apartment's like a thousand eight hundred to a thousand square feet. You can get like a two-bedroom apartment.

Yeah. Under five, are they gonna remember it? I that's what I'm asking. What age? I'm not a parent. I don't know. So What small kids need a lot of space. Kids from one to twelve just need a bedroom? Thirteen to eighteen own room. Okay, because we're having one to two kids anyway. So odds are you're getting one kid. I'm so tired of the cope of um of people saying, oh I'm gonna have a lot of kids. No, you're not above statistics. You're getting one, maybe two.

Um oh, but I'll find a girl. I bet you will. Do I think the child's environment in the first five years of life is not important? Well, I didn't say it wasn't important. I just want to know how much space you guys need. Like, didn't people used to live in one bedroom houses? Like, am I tripping? I grew up in a three bedroom. Mom had one bedroom. The other two were with me and two brothers.

Shared with me. I mean, did you feel traumatized by that? You know, I'm just asking. Because there's three bedroom apartments. So you could get you could get two apartments in the same building. I mean, is that is that is that absurd? Like you get two two bedroom apartments. I don't know. I'm just thinking. And here's why. For family law to to force a man to compel a man to pay alimony.

It has to like you have to be married or you have to live in a way that looks like marriage to the government. So if you want to go about it a certain way, like, you know, we're talking about a strategy here now at this point. Yeah. If you want to apply a strategy to the game to sort of

circumvent some of the uh risk profiles, then that's one way to do it. That's just one way to do it. I mean there's other ways that we can Yeah, but let's focus on this one real quick because it to me it's incoherent.

The idea here is A the woman can still be incoherent because it doesn't align with your worldview with Christianity. No, it's incoherent because when it's applied to what it is that you're trying to avoid, you're just skipping to the thing you were trying to avoid in the first place. The idea here is that if you get a divorce, you're going to split assets. The idea and and be paying towards your wife's new life ex-wife's new life. That's what you're trying to avoid. Under your view, though.

You're just doing the same thing. You're just paying for her assets in the same hang on. Well, at least she can't take a house if you're renting. Hang on, in the same exact way. And she can still pursue legal action through the kids. That doesn't stop her from doing that at all. Yes and you have taken out the risk mitigation now. Yeah, Japan's already doing it. You know, I I I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna make a I'm gonna make a decision.

Um, if that gives the man more leverage, I think it's better for the kids to have less space and more leverage for the man. I'm gonna take that. Yeah. Of religion. So there actually seems like there's an incentive for her to do that. The the remedy that she can apply for will be child support.

Right. Yeah. She can't apply for alimony. She can't apply for half of his shit because they're not living a way that looks like marriage. The state will always make sure the children are looked after. That's that's what they do. So there's no avoiding the state third well let's just agree on something. Like some of the big Okay, I shared a bedroom until I moved out at eighteen. Five kids in two bedrooms early on and homeschooled. Okay, did you think that were you traumatized by that?

Be honest, if if if you were, let me know. But I don't know. I thought people used to and and this is complete this is rich coming from me. I grew up in a giant house. Giant. So I I I would not know. I don't know. But risks for men are are what child support alimony and the loss of half half of their ass assets yeah Yeah. So you just eliminate two of those risks.

And the only thing that you'd have to deal with is child support versus marriage where she can take half of your shit, alimony, and child support. You you have you hang on. You haven't done that exactly. So no, you haven't eliminated this risk. So here's here's why you haven't eliminated it. You're still paying out, just like you were divorced.

You're still paying out just as though you were divorced for this woman to be taking care of your kids for half of her assets, and you're living apart from her. And what this does is this also creates a a massive problem. Which is that

the outcomes for the children are still not going to be as good as if they were at home with mommy and daddy to get hang on together because we have all the data in the world to provide for this. That do that in split households how much how much data model that I just described to you. As a as a solution to the That would be that would be your burden, not mine. Well it's one version. It's one version Yeah,'cause it Rich is I know people said Andrew won the debate.

But it's just these are two types of conversations. That's why they can't have it. Andrew is talking about idealism. Rich works with guys to minimize risks. Rich is gonna know more about the best way to minimize your risk than Andrew because Andrew doesn't, he does debate. So he wants to be right. Rich wants a step-by-step plan. Um no no no, but that would be your burden. You would be y you would need to show me the proof that that works better.

than uh than the model of being heavily religious and in marriage for mitigation. That wouldn't be on me to prove to you. It'd be on you to prove to me. Well, they're not going to study something like that, but I can tell you from evidence that I've seen that it works quite well. What evidence? People that I know that do it. That's anecdotal. That's no place in a debate. You can appeal to anecdotal. Yeah, it but I I think you should accept deb um I think I w wish

that we could accept anecdotes from subject matter experts. Because again, you're gonna know more from boots on the ground than you're ever gonna get from like a stupid study. You're like you realize this is that's anecdotal. Right. But you understand that that that men are having to uh become creative when it comes to the notion of having children without losing their shit. One of the other things you see guys trying to

trying to use to solve this uh problem is surrogacy, which is another bizarre one, right? Then you don't have the mom involved at all. Yeah, but that's only going to be available to men who have wealth. Uh I did the math. I did the math. Sixty grand, you get you a kid. Sixty grand for a kid, that's about the cost of a divorce and child support. It's cheaper. You're just paying up front. If you can save sixty grand to get you a kid. I am for surrogacy.

I'm for it. I think more men should do it. So become wealthy. It's well Yeah, well, but that's that but you see what I'm saying? Like this creates a massive problem. Most men are not going to become wealthy. Most people are not going to become wealthy. If you're not successful, then then you have to follow the masses. This is this is why so many guys get destroyed, because the because the game is rigged against them.

The the population has no real fair way to navigate relationships and children consecutively. Yeah, but you create here's the problem that you have here with this analogy. The first is when you appeal to an anecdote, if I were to give you a similar anecdote, oh, I know a lot of guys who do that and it doesn't work out for them, you wouldn't believe me because that doesn't tell us anything. That's why. No, but I would ask for more specific examples. I would say, okay, who?

Because liars like people that say no a person like okay. If you said to me, I said, marriage is a bad deal deal for men, right? And I said one of the worst divorces I ever saw was at the same church as Michael Knowles. And they said, That's an anecdote. You're no you're lying and I would say no. This was a guy who was in his mid thirties. He met a girl at an Orthodox church.

or in a traditional Latin mass church and she was from Eastern Europe and she stole his kid, brought it back to Europe. Like I could go into detail about this couple. Um even if I wanted to be a little bit more broad, I could still offer specific detail. more like people that are lying, they tend to be more broad, right? They can't come up with I mean, there's some psychopaths out there. And the second problem here is One thing about marriage that's useful for us is being able to track divorce.

That's really easy'cause it all goes. Yeah, we got lots of data on divorce and and the statistics around it. Yeah. And the problem that you have here is that you're saying Well, men are getting destroyed because of how many of these uh, you know, marriages end in divorce. But that's actually only true of some groups.

Some groups the your risk of of divorce is very, very small. It's very tiny. It's a tiny d it's it's well well within what I would consider again. What is the difference in risk for divorce for people that are Christians versus non Christians. It depends on which type of Christian we're talking about. These stats aren't good. I mean I can't remember the ifs ands or buts of why they're not good because God I I don't know how these people like remember every little detail. But um

Oh my god, I can't even remember. I did a video on it though. It's like I'll do a video on it and I'll still forget why because it's just not that interesting to me. You know, it's just not par with the national average. If you're a devout Catholic or devout orthodox, it's down to twelve percent to eighteen percent versus forty percent. Twelve birth I mean, that's still like one in ten.

Twelve versus forty. That's a huge like we're talking about now well within acceptable risk. If it's the case that five to ten peop percent of people who ever have a drink are gonna be But I would have to ask what's what do they dictate as a failure? Because Do they include the men that don't get laid? You know. become alcoholics, right, you wouldn't say that that's so much risk that you should never have a drink.

Like that's within what I would consider acceptable barriers of risk. You're now part of an eighty to ninety percent of success rates rather than you only view it as ten to twelve percent failure rate, I view it as an eighty to ninety percent success rate. No, but just because you're together, that doesn't mean it's a successful marriage. And I I just know them personally, so I'm like, how do you guys not see this?

I mean we we we've talked about how many and I'm not maybe I don't know, but like I'm like about personally people we know that like like brother cooked. It doesn't even matter if they're still like, okay, I have a friend. Her mom completely turned the kids against the dad. They figured that out when they're older, but She's like psychotic and fat. I mean, is that successful? They're still married, you know. When it comes to the churches. What pastors that you're dealing with?

who she is, you know, as far as a woman before you marry her, the fact that women always reserve the right to change their mind at any given time about you later on down the road. We've seen many, many religious people get divorced and get absolutely fucking cleaned out. Sure, but why don't the numbers then reflect it within the individualistic I don't know, I haven't collected the data, but I mean you've just gave some of the data as well that I've talked about.

You can look at you can look at the data. Yeah, yeah, but we but hang on. There's a big difference between people producing warming models. which are uh vastly hypothetical and predictive versus gathering data which is established because we just have raw numbers of how many people are divorced.

within which category which group. I mean the vast majority of climate models you try to point to statistics that are as accurate as possible. But well I mean we have we have accurate records of how many Islamists have been divorced. That's not hard to get. That's not hard data to figure out. And so if that's the case. I agree. Yeah, yeah. Actually, I agree. What I'm looking for is what is the things inside

Well that's keeping the divorce rate so low compared to the average. And I think that that's what's left out of the nuance of the discussion. Well, here's what's going on. And again, well studied phenomenon. Is that But it's just, I don't know. I wish Andrew, there's some things that just are not in your depth. Like, and they're not in my depth either, right? Like I don't really care how many studies and how many debates I win.

I will never be as knowledgeable as the people on the ground and the experts in the field. I just won't. I won't. I will never be able to talk about men's issues the way that a man. I mean, it's why I openly acknowledge that there's a lot of men that know the material better than me. And I point you guys to them because um Like it's just true, you know? And the men that like work with and coach men.

They just have way better insights. You know, whenever I want to know about a trend in the dating marketplace, I literally go to my friend. Who's just bang like he's just a professional woman banger. Like he just b and I just ask him, have you seen SSRIs and women's like Things? Do you see this? Do you see that? And he can give me such good insights into the marketplace that's way better than a study. Subject matter experts are better than studies.

And in my opinion You cannot become a subject matter expert. Um like worse like like Andrew is a subject matter expert on debating, right? And maybe like on on certain parts of history, you know, but you're just never gonna compare to the boots on the ground ever. You know. Uh religion operates on a support net. So you end up having people who have shared like minded value structures, especially for your wife.

Well that's a big thing because If uh if if women are hanging out with like divorcees and they're hanging out with promiscuous women and things like that, they tend to o often follow suit. based on those social pressures. Men actually do do this too. Yeah, but uh again, social pressures, um

I I just don't like that language because and I mean I'm I'm sure I use language people don't like either. I don't like that language because it it is insinuates women don't want to divorce their husband and take the kids. They're just like influence. too to a lesser degree, but they do do it too, depending on the friend and in-group they have, they tend to do more or less degenerate behavior depending on how those groups play out.

When it comes to women, they do the same exact thing. But now if you have a support group and a support network that's like minded and is focusing specifically on the same value structures, which is Yeah, but you guys push Sarah stock, enough said. Yet women can say anything. I mean, Sarah was, I mean, she's friends with your wife, and she like, who's a better person to tell her to not fuck Elijah than Rachel? You know, who's better than her?

Like, I bet if Sarah went to Rachel and she said, Should I bang Elijah Schaefer? Rachel would have been like, yeah, don't do that. Well, yeah, so anyways, um, yeah, it doesn't really matter because women's and women's friend groups, that's the other thing. Women could have religious friends at 20 and find a new friend group at 30. Do you know how many like that?

cycles of friend groups women go through, it's like incredible. Stay married, here's what the role of the woman is, et cetera, et cetera. It creates a reinforcement in those communities which mitigates against divorce and it gives a support network to people who are having marital trouble. That seems to be what's going on. And that's not accessible to the general population outside of that. So why are there still issues within the churches?

Well yeah again issues in fact you're not going to you're you're asking the other thing that I would raise as well too, Andrew is like, you know, we talk about Christianity and I'm for it, man. Like, you know, my mom's family is Christian Orthodox. I grew up in that space, you know, like I understand it well. America, you know, where you live, is mostly a Christian country, wouldn't you say so? No. It's mostly a nominal Christian country.

Uh what's the difference between nominal Christian and Christian? Yeah. So a nominal Christian, so you know the the trans debate. The trans debate. A per uh I a person could say, I'm a woman. They're not actually a woman, you would agree, right? So you're saying that they're calling themselves Christians, but they're not real Christian. Yeah. And so and the reason they're nominal, and we can make that distinguishment between nominal and non-nominal.

Hang on. We can make the distinction between nominal and non nominal Yeah, but it's that now it's gonna go where you get to be the judge of morality. You get to pick who's moral. And that's what makes Christians so unlikable. It's like the audacity. You think you have the You get to pick who's moral, really. Like I mean I you can criminal based on how much they involve themselves in their church.

How many people do you think? I just disagree with that. I disagree with that heavily because most of the men that I know that act in a religious manner do not go to church because they don't like the politics associated with church. Because Women tend to overtake the church, um, and then they have to do all this bullshit when like the most moral people I know don't go to church. I mean like

And and and then the I always get gaslit by people in church about this. They're like, oh, it's just the church you go to. And I'm like, yeah, I'm I'm the same religion as you. I grew up, and then they're like, well, it's just that it's just where you grew up. And I'm like, huh. Yeah.

So now and now we're saying, okay, the people that ha so this is what essentially happens. The people that are involved in the church, they're the real Christians. And I'm like, so the people with the most free time? The people like the people with nothing to do. I mean, that's why pastors kind of suck. These are just half the time, these are guys that don't want to work, you know. So.

many sacraments they partake in and how often they actually participate in that community. This is broken down by Pew for divorce stats and other organizations as well. Which shows the reason like traditional uh Catholics have such a low divorce rate in comparison to the national average is because many of them partake in the church functions and the sacraments, which helps reinforce the ideology. But it also Okay, you can have traditional Catholics, but it doesn't guarantee their kids will be.

So, like, okay, they might have a lower divorce rate, but it doesn't mean their kids will stay traditional Latin Catholic or whatever. Yeah. of the family that they're supposed to work through marital issues rather than get divorced. And it's just a different society. Like people don't I mean again, I know somebody that's from that m type of math. And like all of the kids moved away. You're not in these like tight knit communities anymore. It's just not the same thing. They all move to the city.

Including for the sake of the kids. That's why so when people say America's mostly a Christian country. It's actually not factually true. It's mostly a nominal Christian country. It is true that like sixty five percent or seventy percent of people will identify as being a Christian.

But when you look at their behaviors in society, they act no different than a secularist non Christian. They don't go to church. They don't participate in sacraments. They don't take their religion very seriously. It's called like cultural Christianity, but nominal Christianity is fine too. All right. Well, uh I mean, since Jake invited me to do this uh conversation slash debate with you, I was listening to uh any YouTube uh conversation you had with anybody, you know, James Sexton, uh

Coach Greg Adams. There's been a few other ones where you've had these conversations and you've changed your story in some of those conversations. I don't know if you've updated your beliefs, but I've heard you say in the past that the vast majority of America is Christian. But now you're but now you're saying that they're not nominal, nominal.

Okay. So this is new. So now this is a new model. You're saying Well, it's not a n it's not a new model. What we're doing so well I mean there's recordings out there of you. When we're talking about specificity, and by the way, I reserve the right to update my worldview based on new information at all times, right? So whether or not before you said before today, Andrew. Yeah. So if I've never if I've ever said before

Uh, you know, the United States is mostly a Christian nation, but didn't put in the caveat, but didn't put in the caveat of nominal. It's actually irrelevant. Right. It is the case that most people identify, the majority of people identify as being Christian, but I'm trying to figure out what that means, right? So Yeah. So what I was gonna get to is this. I mean, you know, if America is a Christian country or nominal Christian country, you know, let's call it

It's passed laws and legislation that aren't aligned with the religion. And it's created an environment that's hostile to its Christian, you know, participants. Agreed. So what's the solution to that, Andrew? Well, the solution to this from a political standpoint is going to be likely the push for mass marriage reform. Which would look like now well it would look like exactly what you're talking about in Kentucky.

where you start with grounding localized laws, which will do things like immediate custody disbursement between both couples, things like this. The groundswell of traditionalism, which is moving back into the mainstream. uh especially from the right wing is now beginning to make more demands like this, and they have more access to the legislators to do this. That's step one.

But in the interim time we have we have to have some way in which children are still being produced and men don't lose hope because all hope is lost and you're gonna be part of Yeah, but I don't sell hope. Like I don't think it's a bad thing to lose hope. It's kinda freeing now. Like I've just kind of it's it's I don't know how to put it. There's this freedom that just happens when you lose hope.

There's a freedom. Like it you just feel so free. It's like, yep, the world's going to shit. Let's let's party, everybody. Pearl calls going church Christians self righteous, pious, unlikable, hipp I mean, I didn't say that, but I guess if you're gonna take the least charitable way to say it, yet they have lower dis divorce rates. Well, again But that doesn't mean they have better marriages. Baby mamas and baby daddies, they have a lifelong bond, a bond stronger than most husbands and wives.

You know um Yeah, because it's kind of like you know, like if you accept my wife is probably gonna cheat on me. If you accept that, then now you don't have to worry about it. You know, and just know women aren't women aren't that good of liars, so yeah, hold on. I'm gonna go get the delivery I was talking to you about, but I'm gonna make the screen I'm gonna make the screen full and play it for a little bit. Part of this forty percent statistic or fifty percent statistic and you're screwed.

That's actually not the case. The case is is that Individually, if we break down various groupings, of the types of people who are getting divorced, some groups are at way higher risk than other groups. And that's factually true. And if you're a part of a group that has a very low risk of of divorce, It suddenly becomes much more attractive to men to do and they're less likely actually to get destroyed in a divorce because they're not even likely to get one in the first place.

So if we examine the change that's required, we realistically need to say no more to women, yeah? Would you agree? Um yeah. How what's the plan for that given the environment that we live in, not the environment that we ought to live in? You mean the descriptive is? Like what do you what do we want to do about it right this second? Because nobody's able to say no to women today. What do you mean by that?

Everything everything that happen well, the vast majority of things that happen in culture and politics is all to support a female first primary social order. It's all to g um It's all to make men less and make women more. It's yeah, I don't disagree with that. It's not about equality anymore. It's about destroying men. Well, it's about removal of the of the patriots. Yeah, it's about the rule of man from the household and making the state and women the head of the household.

So that so that dynamic is shift completely. It's it's put everything on its head. Mm-hmm. So Christianity as you idealize it, you know, the ought to version of Christianity is not is not supporting. I don't get why you keep saying that this is an odd. When it's descriptively true right now as we speak, it is the case. That these groups exist right this second as we speak. Or your risk is of getting divorced is greatly mitigated by just being part of these groups because they do tell women no.

The traditional churches the traditional churches tell women it's not perfectly idealized. It's a case right this second, right now. What do you mean? In a in a perfect idealized church system, but the church system is not like that. Yes, it is. Let me ask you a question. Can the Orthodox or Catholic Church have female deacons?

I don't know. I'm not I'm not Christ. No. Can they have priests who are female? No. Can they have uh women who are in positions of leadership? No. They're being told no all the time. They're being told no.

You can't be in here. You're not allowed. You're not allowed to be a deacon. You're not allowed to be a priest. You're not allowed to do any of that. They're being told no. And that's why you see the mitigation rate for like Orthodox Christians especially hang on, hang on, hang on. Orthodox Christians especially. The mitigation is so low.

Right, that your chance of getting a divorce if you're getting married inside the church and participating inside the church, it's abysmal. It's abysmally low. And so it's like, yeah, there are organizations which tell women no. And they do it all the time. And they won't let'em in any position of leadership. And they do it all the time. And it's that's not in the future that that's gonna happen. That's right now, that's happening.

There's Orthodox churches that are pro LGBTQ. They're messaging, allowing for divorces in their churches today. Yeah, they allow for divorce, but the chance they allow for divorce under a certain extremities, same as cat. So if there's abandonment I got bored, not those, not those no. There's only there's only there's very few. Adultery, abandonment, addiction. Those are really the only three in which you have any grounds to even petition the church for a divorce.

And so that helps mitigate in a huge way. Uh, divorces inside of these churches. Because you're right. Most of the time women sue for divorce, it's for irreconcilable differences, not because of abuse. Not because of abandonment, not because of cheating. They're not pr mostly not pursuing divorces under those grounds. So you're these churches only allow it under certain circumstances. Wait, say that again?

So your recommendation is everybody become devout Christians will lower the divorce rate to a level that's not risky and everybody. No, I'm not first of all, what I'm giving is a descriptor for if marriage is good in the West right now. Not even a prescrip not even a prescription yet. Just a distinction, just a descriptor. And the descriptor is

Obviously, for some groups, it's fine. And for other groups, which are groups who are not part of the devout infrastructure of religion, it seems to be really bad. Okay. For you guys. Really good. You still have a twelve percent divorce rate where men will get That's really low, dude. Still that is really low, really low. Can I just hang us just quickly?

Um, the I think that you're kind of talking past each other a little bit in certain ways. So, Andrew, you're coming from the religious aspect. Rich, you're coming from an aspect where your mitigations for these problems rely on you being a little bit more wealthy.

So if you are looking at a guy, for example, who is between twenty five and thirty, maybe living paycheck to paycheck, doesn't have a deep spiritual life in any way, what what do you think is the is the best thing for that sort of guy to do? You're asking me? Oh, both of you are.

Yeah, if the average Joe just doesn't have uh deep spiritual life or if the average Joe is living paycheck to paycheck. I know Andrew would say get a deep spiritual life, that'll solve your problems. What do you think is the best for this for this guy to do? Well, I mean that's a difficult one because he's he's gotta enter into a conventional marriage. And that's what most of them try to do, they get them destroyed.

Um, sorry, I'm just looking at the data for uh the devout Christian is that what they're called? Devout Christians? Um, no. So it depend yeah. What we would be looking at we'd be looking at denomination and then practice within denomination in order to How many different denominations are there for Christians? A lot. Like how many? What I would do, maybe the easiest way to parse it out would be to look at Catholics, Orthodox, and then Protestants.

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for his business and the fiction said this kind of mindset might cost because that does not seem like a happy, healthy, fruitful, productive life. One woman who Oh, I guess I guess she was cooking Myron and me. So let's see. From Fresh and Fit. Obviously. response and he posted yes choose to go to a singles dating event versus just going fact that men aren't showing up isn't suit all that women and feminism helped cause this like I am not disputing that women effed around they broke hearts

This like how is this new? Anyway, I digress. Moving on. Somebody else said Floyd's paying cash to meet men. Men still don't care to show up. Truly the dark ages, and it's all women's fault. I have no sympathy for anyone involved except the bros. And again, like I am not Disputing at all that women and feminism helped cause this. Like I am not disputing that women effed around, they broke hearts. Not feminism. Women, women.

They spent decades telling men that they are worthless, that masculinity is toxic, that they like that obviously I don't I think the average woman just would rather do anything else than date men. I don't always know if it's intentionally malicious or whatever. But like women would just just like, you know, when you were 18 to like 23, you'd rather do a talk show than get married, you know, go to college. Threw it back at UCLA. It just is what it is, you know?

I threw it back too we all threw it back, you know? Just is what it is. You know, take the L. How did it be? On male, female relations, on the modern dating landscape. But I would also argue, just as an aside, again, hopefully I don't piss people off, the dating events are naturally a bit more up women's alley. So, like the fact that men aren't showing up isn't super Now she's coping, right? Hold on, hold on. I'm gonna make this full screen for one second.

surprising to me, like especially because women often travel in groups. I feel like that's a joke in rom coms that like they travel in a pack like becomes a social event. They go with a bunch of girlfriends, they make a night out of it. And like I highly doubt that their male counterpart peers are doing the same thing. Like I highly doubt that they would choose to go to a singles dating event versus just going and grabbing a beer and watching

Kinda get what I'm saying? If you wanna be smug Yeah, but about all of this and point to feminism and say that it's all women's fault, like uh that's fine. Like again, that makes sense. But this can't be victory. This can't be the end of the road, and we're gonna get to that. Myron Gaines from Fresh and Fit, obviously.

response and he posted, Yep, I predicted this six years ago. Female desperation is rising and I'm here for sure. There's accounts dedicated for women approaching men. Uh because um Now, first of all, before we get into the rest of his reaction, I feel like Myron is intentionally slanting this like women are showing up in droves and freaking out. So anxious and in anguish, but I don't know if a daily You intentionally tried to not flirt with um tried to slant you flirting with clavicular.

event with fifteen women and five men is really a great representation. And those are the actual numbers from the event that the New York Times reporter went to. Fifteen women. Like that is what we're dealing with here. And I also think that women Yeah, but this is all over the country. She didn't even look into this. So young. Hold on. Let me get our dog in. Okay, dog. Come on in. Okay. Mm All right. She could have did like two minutes of research.

I know I reacted to a girl in Atlanta that's happened to. I don't know, Doug MPA if you know it, put it in the signal chat. I know a few months ago. Is my Wi-Fi not going? God doesn't want me to be right right now. Man. This is here we go. Here we go. Different one. Stop. Welcome back to Ulfa Central. I'm your host. You're supposed to make up boys who are like I don't chase women. Okay. Dallas women shocked after zero men showed up to their singles event. See. Happens all the time.

Uh uh D I mean it's I found it, Doug, it's fine. Um Yeah, like it's it's happening everywhere. Um I'm on the pulse. I this is why I should get the N-word pass, because I am that, I'm on the pulse with all the trends. I never stop working. Look, I every time I talk to someone, I'm looking for the trends in their life. Every, you know. She is not on the poll.

Which is date, and people have been calling women desperate for an eternity. Again, this is not some new phenomenon. Like a desperate woman is an age old trope. Like there were desperate women in Jane Austen novels that were made fun of. Like again, not new. However, I will concede that maybe this desperation is taking

Like they are now feeling men's salads at sweet It's not the same. I mean what was that though? You're just gonna nag? You're right, but not like All right, Doug's gotta Let's see. Uh Single men to come to a party. I have a restaurant in Brooklyn and I want to throw a singles mixer for Valentine's Day. And all of the women in my DMs are very enthused, but no men. Yeah.

For crying out loud. Just watch this TikTok. Guys, the dating scene is getting so bad in New York City that I am seeing on TikTok there are girls going into Midtown during the week and stealing Finance Bros salads for And then looking their name up from the salad order on LinkedIn and then

messaging them through there and being like, Hey, oh my God, so sorry. Grab your salad. Like, let me just make it up to you and buy you a new one. And that's how they're like sliding it, which honestly, smart. Why are we stealing men's salads? Like that

Why can't they just come up to us at a bar? Like Okay, well they're not coming up to you at a bar because number one, rejection is awful, but also they don't want to be me too'd and for the last however many years every Wait, what was this bullshit? So okay, so you just nagged him for no reason? Which is why I think that good men Okay, let me keep going. Now apparently oh wait here, let me all right. Like play the games, sleep around, talk about culture, all of that. So Alex Cooper

No, I mean Brett, I mean we could go into your life. Okay, let's just be honest here. I don't know who the hell you gave it up to before. I don't really care, right? I don't I don't spend my life wondering who you banged before you met your husband. But I'm not stupid. And I know bitch that's been on her own since sixteen. She's banging somebody, right? You can play the innocent card your your husband or whatever. I'm not stupid.

husband he might be stupid i don't know you know i'd say you've banged at least five other dudes at least i'm gonna be i'm gonna be so kind you've only banged five other dudes we count head here I don't think it was one or two. I think it was at least five. We count the gluck luck 9,000. We count getting finger blasted. I would say at least five dudes. Okay. So

Were you brainwashed? No. It was just you wanted to do it, right? You got horny. It's normal. Like we're adults here. You get horno horny, you want to throw it back, you know. We all been there. Um, she'll pretend she's never been there. But every woman's been there, you know. It's like it is what it is. Not judging, you know. But

I don't really like this rhetoric that feminism convinced. It's like women didn't uh you were in a sorority. Okay. What frat guy did you bang? Like if I really wanted to do a deep dive on s I would never do this. I would never uh it's like I would just ask people in your sorority, right? Women talk too much. You probably told some bitch that hates you now, like

You know, there's some frat guy, you know, probably the hottest, maybe not the hottest, but like top five you know,'cause she's like a mid and a sorority she'd probably be pretty ugly, actually. Sorority girls at like hot, you know, at big schools. Not like she's better looking than normal, but like you know what I mean, a big schools. You're just not gonna anyways, so okay.

Yeah, so I'll just anyway. He goes on and he says now they're done. They'd rather grind video games, stack cash, hit the gym, or just live free than blow thousands chasing entitled unappreciative women in loud bars. Men are fed up with the disrespect, the hypergamy, the attitude. The men going their own way, red fill trend isn't slowing down, it's accelerating. Year after year, more men will opt out. Women ignored the warning signs, now they're living with the consequences.

I talk about this extensively in my second book, Why Women Deserve Even Less, which is a sequel to my first book, Why Women Deserve Less, link below, which is just comical. But like okay, again, seriously, I

On why this happened. I sympathize with that. I get it. I can point to it. But like, are we really seeing this as a victory? That this is like a good thing? It seems totally backwards and completely unhealthy to claim that the consequence is actually the positive way forward. And thankfully, thank B bruh, did you just say that a consequence is not the positive way forward?

So you're saying women shouldn't have concept? This is incredible. I mean, e-girls, please, I just this is my plea to you. Please don't ever stop saying dumb stuff on podcasts. I would never Look, I say dumb stuff too at times and I make a lot of people's careers. Like one guy said, You say this as if it is a good thing, congratulations on doing your part to drive a wedge between men and women. Another person said six years later and the master plan is opt out and play video games, revolution.

If your grand solution to modern dating is retreat and resentment, that is not power, that is avoidance with. I loved that comment. And let's be honest, it is branding because this is his business. What is happening now is profitable for his business and the messages that he espouses. This comment was just wild. She has gone full feminist since getting married. This is incredible. Please don't stop.

remarkable, so I had to read it. But this person said, You have correctly diagnosed the rig game, but the men going their own way movement is a fatal prescription. Well, some of the men going their own way don't have a choice. They're ugly, chopped, right? And You know, it's like two percent of women are marriageable. And even if you get a marriageable one, like Brett Cooper would be in the marriageable statistic, assuming she doesn't have an incurable S T D, right? Um

And I'm assuming she paid off her college debt with the money she's made at the Daily Wire. So but uh Brett, we've got to be real here. All the men have to deal with that marry women like you, you looking at clavicular the way you did, you know? That's a lot of men just don't want to do it. So Opting out to grind video games. It's like okay, are we gonna nag you about the pound of makeup that you were wearing? Shut up.

By withdrawing. You avoid the pain and friction of the modern dating market, but you abdicate the throne entirely. A true king doesn't surrender to the chaos or hide. Comfort, he burns the false map, masters the laws of the territory, and builds an unbreakable frame. Do not mistake a comfortable cage for a kingdom. I love that. Take that comma to heart.

The problem is, in my opinion, is that I think that these commenters and myself, people like us, and these red pill bros are operating from completely different premises. Like the commenter that just left that reply, he still believes in conquering challenges. society better and getting married and building strong families. It's just the audacity that you think you can tell men what to do. You're not traditional or feminine in any way because

You think that you have, and neither am I, right? We suck. We're women, you know. But like you don't have the right to tell men what to do. So you don't know anything about the male experience, and you're gonna tell men they're weak if they give up. Fuck you, they're doing Hard jobs. You're talking into a microphone. Like I just think that like it's unfortunate that when you talk into a microphone, you become higher status in society because I really think we should be the lowest status people.

People hate us, but we're still considered like high status people. Maybe not me, right? But like a lot of these people in these prestigious, you know, companies, da-da-da-da-da. So It's just like we should be the lowest because we don't do anything. And this whole red pill movement, the men going their own way, they just seem concerned with tearing it all down. I need to comment. Did I comment? Oh, I said never change e girls. And essentially getting revenge. Like they're angry and obviously.

We can all understand why. I think all of us get it, but their solution is to burn it all down and opt out. That, to them, is success. But at what cost? Yeah. So again, you're a high status woman. with the money for servants, right? So you ever I was I'm making a show I'm gonna do soon. I'm doing a lot of research for it, so I I'm not ready yet, but It's gonna talk about high status women, how they've actually never cooked and cleaned.

They've always had servants, right? And when you think about it, we've n it's not really changing. The only difference is that women are becoming high status through debt now. So like young women at 18 get a bunch of debt and now they have servants at college, right? They have, you know, people catering to their they have a the the meal, you know, the meal services at college. Then they graduate, they get Uber Eats. So they're not cooking, they're not cleaning like Um

I don't know if that makes sense. So Women enter the servant or the high status, like they're basically living the lives of queens. You know, most women in all of history didn't get to travel like that. Now women are getting to live that, but they're getting to live it through credit card debt. Or useless jobs like me and Brett have, you know. So she as like essentially is in the position of a queen, right? And she's saying, oh, well, you peasants keep working.

Peasants, work, work for me, peasants, peasants, peasants. It's like, well And then they they always cope the conservative oh I work so hard. No, you don't. If you don't work like twelve hour days um uber eating and doing this bullshit, you don't work that hard. Okay. I mean some of these jobs suck. They suck ass. I I wouldn't want to do'em. I'm gonna be honest. I would if I had to, but like I wouldn't, you know. That does not seem to be a good thing. I could be HR.

But it's not like you know, it's not like we're changing society here. Like a happy, healthy, fruitful, productive life. One woman who was brave enough to jump into his comment section said this kind of mindset might feel empowering in the short term, but it is built on resentment more than reality. Now, yes, some men feel overlooked, but turning that into women deserve less just keeps everyone stuck in a cycle of blame instead of growth. Opting out is a choice.

So it's self- Yeah, so now women are freaking out because they are not gonna have slaves. They essentially want like they need men to Uber eat them, they need ma you know, they need men to um Deliver them food and do all this stuff. And men are saying, you know, eff it. I'm not gonna live like a slave if I don't get anything in return. Why would I be a slave for nothing? You know? So And now high, like essentially queens in society, high status women.

Uh, they're nagging the slaves and the peasants, right? Like essentially we've just kind of redistributed society to where most women live like queens until they're like thirty-five. And then women enter the servant class. Like if you look at the nail techs, they're all usually older hairstylists, whatever. But like when they're young, they live like queens. Um, and then enter the servant class later. Some women like Brett, um and that's why women don't value I was thinking about this.

I'm gonna do a more in depth show. But I was thinking about what like all the rich guys I know don't care about cooking. They do not care. Sorry like okay, sorry. I should say rich and high status because women when they go, they don't just want money, they want status. So like the ideal for women is like Brad Pitt, right? Do you think Brad Pitt really cares if his wife cooks? Like he probably he's like 50. He's probably either learned to cook on his own and has meals he likes.

Or like he can afford a a like someone a meal prep or whatever. Like they they don't really care. And I was really thinking about this and I'm like, women prioritize events. And going out because they're more likely to meet the high status men and the cooking skills, like they just don't really like need the. Sometimes there's high income men that like they don't participate in the status game. So like my dad maybe would be one of them where like he doesn't care about the events, he doesn't like

That stuff just wasn't appealing. Like you didn't play in that game of like status. Does that make sense? So they tend to care more about money, but the the men that women are gunning for, they really don't care about cooking. Well, when I think of the servant class, like I think of Uber Eats, hair s hair salons, nail salons, like cause I was thinking about it's just a new equivalent. Back in the day, like women would have um Like Queens would have people to help them get ready in the morning.

And women basically have that now with like people to cut their hair, people to dye their hair, people to do their nails. Like it's just women are in the sir, like they graduate into the servant class. Brad Pitt is sixty two. Um status makes you richer. Yeah, I know it does in some industries. Um, not all though. Not all. Like my dad doesn't really I mean I guess he'd be high status in his company growing up, but like he I don't know, the the games in the cities. Um Yeah, so

Of improvement. So is learning how to build healthier dynamics without framing half the population as the enemy. And also, this is such an important lesson to learn, even outside of dating in this whole issue that we're going through. Like as humans, it is much easier. to just shut down and walk away and avoid things when they are hard or when things are painful. It is easy.

Like, do you understand why you saying this as a commentator? Like, even let's even take a woman with an easier job, like a hairstylist who has to cut hair for 12 hours straight. Or a trucker being told by you to do things when they're hard. The actress turned commentator. No. Don't see the irony to drop out of that course that you're worried about flunking in college. It is easier to close yourself off.

So that you don't get hurt. It is easier to 1970s, women were in the US were still cooking family dishes. Yeah, like middle class women, right? Middle class women have cooked and cleaned. Lower class women have cooked and cleaned. Upper class have managed service. You think Melania knows how to cook? You think Trump cares? Because upper class women, their job was

um reputation management. So like they would host part like I was looking up the average day in an upper class woman and it was like the servants come help her get ready. She might have two or three out outfit changes. She does breakfast. Hosts, dinner parties. It's like, I don't know. I'm like, that is a completely

Yeah. Lift harder at the gym because it's painful. Like whatever that might be in your life. But as human beings, and I often have to remind myself of this, we only grow and get this straight. They want you want them to listen to you. When you have to be reminded to do hard things as a commentator. A commentator. Like I just want to show the equivalent. This is like a queen saying to the peasant, guys, make sure you do things. Make sure you do things that are hard.

And they're looking at you like You're the que you're a queen. You're a queen. Now I know I'm a queen too, right? I I mean I don't want it to sound like but the way I live, right? It's better than a lot of women have lived in all of history. I was really lucky with the family I'm born into. It doesn't mean you don't work hard at certain things, but it's just not gonna compare to the grueling labor of being a peasant. It's not.

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Brett again that is preborn.com slash Brett to get involved today. Again, that is preborn.com slash Brett to get involved today. So back to the story, the point I'm trying to make here is that yes, we get it. Be smug all you want. Be happy about this, but this is Brett Cooper and Pearl are part of a human if I get dragged into this human trafficking thing.

I am gonna if Candace Owen, I I don't think she would. I've made like a million streams on her, she's never responded. But I swear to God, if I get pulled into this, I if I get put into this conspiracy theory. We're gonna have beef, okay? It is not a victory for society. It is not a victory for anything other than you and your business and your brand. And interest Bruh, did you j let me get this straight? She j I think I hate her more every day.

I hate her more every day. I I went from a fan to pure hatred, I think now. So let me get this straight. She is saying it builds your brand when you just used God to sell an ad. entire dating landscape. For example, take this TikTok. The rules of gr of grifting always use God and then play the victim. You're a pretty successful woman trying to date New York City, you might genuinely be cooked. People talk about how it's the greatest city in the world for dating. For guys. Yeah.

There's a 70-30 split. Everyone here has a college degree. Women are smarter than men these days. For being one of the most diverse, beautiful cities in the world, a lot of the guys here are very bland. You want a finance bro, you want a traditional like five foot seven douchebag, go for it. But then the dude's. How do you you just covered Murray Hill, who got like a thousand matches as a woman on a dating app when he okay. Bruh.

To do well here with women have all the options in the world and have massive egos. And there can be a paradox where as a successful attractive woman you have all the options, but how many of those options do you really want and do you want to commit and would want to commit to you? And I think this is samping.

A lot of women really want guys to be respectful and be confident and go up to them in person, but it's not happening. And because so much of dating is online dating, you get in this cycle of all the options in the world. No options at all. So similarly, he is arguing that men, especially that top percentage of men, hold all the power in New York City, that they have all of the options and Yeah, but women are choosing to chase chat.

And there's still I bet if okay, if it's thirty seventy split men to women, then women are fucking ten of'em and leaving twenty out. Like women are gonna women. the caveat women in the comments did not agree that they were totally cooked. Like one woman said, It's just as amazing for women, what do you mean? Another woman said, I don't know, personally I've had a great time dating here and I don't think I'm wildly attractive L O L and most of it has

was only on the apps for a few months prevaccine, you just have to leave the house. But that's the hard thing. People don't want to leave the house. They want to be on their phones when not re and new okay. The thing is when you're in small cities, I think you can just like meet people in person more. Um yeah. Another person said, Really? I've had three NYC boyfriends and they all wanted to get married and I didn't want. Would rather be single, she says. But of course, older women.

Yeah, where is she gonna say my dating around, who are girl bossing in their New York City cubicles, who are getting micro bangs, I don't know, whatever you guys are doing, then yeah, they will probably opt out or they will move and just But the point is what I'm trying to say here is that

I feel like I say this in every single dating episode, but it's not a black and white issue. Some men and women in different dating markets are still thriving, but it is a hard market regardless. It's just like the real estate market in 2026. It is complicated and it is complex. But what does How dare you? How dare you? Uh just white women. I see why they hate us. Just like liberal f Because it's just like how dare you complain to the men about anything that they decide to do.

W in the position you're in. Shut up. Shut like shut up. Feminist women, all they do is complain and desire to hate the opposite sex. But you don't even know what red pill is. You actually there's forums called the married red pill. With men that have been married like twenty plus years, she doesn't even know what the red pill is.

what we do, they will find a reason to be upset. They are even complaining over Eevee magazine trying to teach women how to have better sex and better please their he Oh my God, she's not gonna do it Oh my God. Okay, so Eevee Mag okay, hold on. Literally. Now in case you missed that entire controversy happening on X right now, Evie magazine's newest print issue. They do a couple of print issues every single year. This next issue is going to be all on sex for married women.

Okay. So now Brett Cooper is gonna defend A quote unquote. So they're gonna use conservatism, which is supposed to be conserving like traditional values, right? Modesty, like modesty, like when you think of conservatism is one of those values. So, women want to be naked really bad because it gives them more attention. So, and it draws more attention to whatever they want. So, they just want to get naked.

And um conservative women are now gonna defend the right of women to get naked so they can get naked. Cause Brooke kinda or not Brooke, Brett got naked in her photo shoot. Not completely naked, but you know, she's doing a sexy photo shoot too. And now she's gonna defend it because they want the right to be whores but not be called whores. And I'm like, look, we're all whores. Just admit it. Just admit it, you know. It's fine. Just say, just say whore. I'm a whore.

I'm a slut ho whore. Big whore. Yeah. Just yeah, I mean just. You know, it's okay, you know. And here's the cover right here, obviously. fired up in many ways, but in a recent post they explained why they're doing this. So I want to read this to you and then show you the response to just show you how ridiculous and hypocritical it really is. So this was a letter from Brittany Hugo Boom, who is the editor in chief and the founder.

And she said, Dear readers, this is the first of many themed issues, and it is the most ambitious thing we have ever done. For years a recurring plea has shown up in our DMs, our emails, and our survey they realize traditionalism means there's a natural order in the world. So you get instruction from Your husband, right? God talks to your husband. The husband talks to the wife, right? So if you have questions about sex, you're supposed to go to your husband, not a magazine.

It's actually pretty liberal to go to a random woman on the internet. It's conservative to go to your husband, right? You could be like, Daddy, how do I gluck gluck nine thousand better for you? You know what I mean? So it's like the responses. Young married women are actu For real, honest, and detailed guidance on sex. A reader once wrote to us and said: progressives own sex positivity, but abandon marriage and monogamy.

Conservatives own marriage, but can't bring themselves to be sex positive. That's stuck with us because it's true. And it perfectly describes the gap. Many young women, especially from traditional religious families, have come into womanhood without learning any They remained. That the culture that told them to wait had absolutely nothing to say about what comes after the altar. They grew up with negative associations to

But we're expected to become uninhibited the moment that they said I do. We believe that sex is one of the most important foundations to a thriving marriage. You cannot call something sacred and then refuse. Take it seriously. Now she goes on, there were other parts of it that were also controversial to the detractors online.

Like to me, what Evie is doing, it sounds like a good and healthy thing. Because for years, young women have been bombarded with sex positive content. However, it was not positive in the slightest. It was not beautiful or healthy at all, in my opinion. it and gross advice from Caller Daddy and Teen Vogue who encouraged women to sleep around like men and play the dating game. Okay, but you're encouraging women to do a sexual photo shoot while married. How are you any better?

If anything, I like Caller Daddy. I mean, they give Gluck Gluck nine thousand advice. I mean, it's very practical if you really listen to the original. I mean, that could that could save a marriage right there, you know. And find your perfect non binary queer vibrator, which was a literal article that was released on Teen Vogue. Meanwhile, on the right, and for girls from more

traditional families or who are more traditional, the advice is always a little bit more than a little bit of a traditional woman. You're y you guys are all the we're all the same and you prove it. So you know say if you're thank you for that. Helps me, you know. With my career, so keep going. Embrace traditionalism, embrace purity. But again, what happens when you get married? None of you bitches are pure. Uh you can you can sell that to your husband. You're not selling that to me.

Still looking for pointers. Maybe you don't really know what you're doing. So where do you look? Where do you go for that advice? Certainly not Cosmo or Teen Vogue or Free. Husband. That's that would be traditional. Your husband. Alex Cooper, hopefully it's not porn or smut, even though that has become far more than husband wives that you know, not the internet.

Unfortunately. So this is a niche that should be filled. This should make a lot of Yeah, like you know what should and shouldn't be. You're like twenty two, you know. Now, some people will respond to this and said, you know, this is weird, mass media should not be talking about this. Go talk to your mentors or your friends, older women. But this is also just such a personal and intimate thing. people are not comfortable having those conversations they might not have

Individuals who could help them. Mary Morgan, for example, wrote a hilarious and painfully accurate response to that. And she said, instead of clapping back with they should go to older women for advice, not a magazine, first ask yourself why young couples do not have trusted older In the first place. The average boomer has shitty advice on pretty much every topic. And you're telling me E V magazine is gonna have good advice, really. That's gonna be better.

But they are especially hopeless when it comes to dating sex marriage. After all. The average boomer lady is going to tell a younger woman to marry her vibrator. It is that Bad. Now moving on from that and going into the other detractors, I'm looking at the landscape of the internet. My for you paid for my algorithm on X, and I'm like, aren't you online all

Complaining about marriages these days? You spend half your show complaining. It's like the audacity. Marriages are loveless and sexless. So why would men even get involved in that? Why would they engage in something that is so terrible and barren? And this magazine, this issue, is here to help. But no guys, because it is still a problem. And I guess as I'm doing this episode, I should have also included the red

Because of course Pearl was one of the first people to jump Yup in Eevee's comment section. She said ha ha ha ha ha oh please keep going. And then she said, I love how hard trad e-girls fight to be more and more naked and like I But how is that like a response to the very valid argument because there is a naked woman on the cover. I mean are you are you playing are you stupid or are you playing dumb? Playing dumb would make playing dumb would be I I think that

I really don't wanna think you're stupid. I don't wanna think that you're dumb. I don't uh but here's the thing, as a as an e-girl, people tell you you're smart all the time. Are you uh are you are you stupid or playing dumb? Why why am I talking about e girls fighting to be naked when there's a woman in laundry you just showed on the screen? Are you... Are you dumb or dumb or playing stupid? I don't Which one? She's gotta go live, okay?

I don't like this we need reasoning that Evie laid out. Do you guys mean what she say? Like part of being trad, I would assume, I would hope, is married and having a healthy, happy sex life with your husband. And I think that is what Evie is trying to encourage No such thing. You cannot be traditional and beyond social media bitches.

That's so that's so incredible. It's like, oh, well, I need this magazine to be trad. It's like, well, you can do you want to delete social media to be trad? Well, I don't want to do that. Okay, why don't we just say that you why don't we just get back to the whore? Just say I like getting offers from other men in case I want to leave my husband. I mean that makes sense, right? That made I mean that makes perfect sense.

That at least is logical to me. I like wearing a black dress, showcasing it for the world, because I like other offers, you know. I like the attention. At least, at least we're being like honest here. I'm trying to just encourage a little bit of honesty. Just a little bit, not a lot, just a little, right? Um

Is that too much to ask? And help young women do. Another commenter said, spoiler, there are no traditional women, they are all just whores like us men. Let's stop the charade. Okay, women are whores because they want to have better sex with their husbands. Because Were you a virgin on your wedding night?

Were you a virgin on your wedding night? No? Whore. We're all whores, right? Um, and even the women that are virgins on their wedding night, it's usually just because a hot enough Chad didn't ask. A hot enough Chad just did not ask. But notice how she's become more man hating after the kid. Now she's got power. This is a woman drunk on power. I know an unchecked ego.

their husbands and be comfortable and understand their bodies like okay you all genuinely just want to be mad about everything that is what i've taken away from this entire situation doesn't matter if somebody's trying to fix the problem

No, because you don't know what the red pill is. The red pill actually is completely dedicated to fixing the problems. You don't have an answer to any of the problems because all of your um your solutions are either you either don't have a solution or it's very abstract. Um yeah, and nobody Nobody made you throw it back for other dudes before your husband. Nobody made you do that. So I mean, hoes are gonna hoe, including you, Brad. It's all right. Don't it's okay.

It's okay, you know, sometimes hoin just calls your name and you gotta hoe, you know. That you've laid out, that you yell about online twenty four seven, you just want to be pissed off. On and on again. I mean, but you just you you were just pissed off at the red pill. It's just like the hypocrisy. Like if you're gonna be a hypocrite, just don't do it in the same video. Just do it in different, like di like two di two separate videos would be ideal.

Because then it's like, well, she probably forgot she said that, you know. But y I mean you couldn't have forgot Because the one, the naked picture was right there. And two, um Uh two, you just complained, you know. On about how sexless, loveless marriages are a problem in America. That they lead to divorce, and divorce is bad, and divorce makes men resent women. And why should men get married in the first place? Everything is terrible. Oh my gosh, if only somebody, if only somebody was off.

and try it. Great social media, Brett. That would that would fix your sex life. I'm sorry, whoever you you had sex with in college is better sex than your husband. Um, he was probably sexually inexperienced. To allow you to act this way as a married woman, which it is what it is, right? Don't take it with a grain of salt, you know. But yeah, I mean, just cause you threw it back more than him, it just is what I mean. That's like the conservative marriage.

to make things better and healthier. Like you people, you commenters, you offer no solution. Except retreating into a resentful, lonely isolation where men and women continue to hate each other. She's so mad that we all know she because this is the thing, red pillar, there's behaviors she just can't hide. that we all know indicate that you hold a bit. You can't hide'em.

You can pretend you can gaslight for eternity, but we all know a hoe when we've seen one. We all know a UCLA whore. You know what I mean? It just it is what it is, right? Just like Candace Owens, like she tries to not be ghetto, but we can all kind of see you're kind of ghetto, right? You can't really, you can't hide. And that pisses her off. She doesn't like being found out because she made her brand on like being super innocent, you know. Anyways. Anyways um she's now.

Sh you know, she's not holding this L too well with the clavicular thing. I hope she gets it back though. Look at, I don't judge you for hoeing, but you're not gonna, you're not gonna hoe and fool me. You're not gonna hoe and then pretend you're not hoeing. I don't I don't like the gaslighting. Hoes are fine. We love the hoees, you know. Anyways. All right, guys. Th hoes are gonna hoe. All right, guys. We're at the two hour mark. So

Candice admits she used to par I'm sure she did, but I bet she didn't admit that till after she had a few kids, you know. That's when you admit it after you built the brand, after you got the kids. Wait, what the heck? Sorry, one second. How's it gone? Thank you, everybody. Thank you. That song. That song was from the bottom of my heart, you know. You know, I um again I get music offers all the time and I just turn them down, you know. Super busy, super busy.

Girls gotta go. And be a hoe, you know, we gotta hoe. So three-o foes are gonna three-o foe. Yeah, I know. Laugh, laugh, laugh. Does Doug can Doug Doug can you freestyle? I'll I'll put I'll I'll hold the show if Doug can add a verse. Ten dollars, thank you guys. Ten dollars. I can sing, but I can't rap. Well, I mean, yeah, I'm then I gotta take away your n word pass. I gotta take it away. You don't deserve an N-word pass. Well, I mean, I was...

Time you should write a few verses for the black fatigue song, and I can just play it, and you could like come, you know. All right. Well I gotta go anyways, guys. If you can like the video and subscribe. Um, let me know if you want, send send this to the music officials. Um Yeah, because I think I deserve an album, you know. So I mean I I turn it down all the time, ha ha. But yeah, you know, you never know. Anyways, like the video. I'll see you next time.