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Payments on Fire™

Glenbrook Partners, LLCglenbrook.com
Podcasts from Glenbrook Partners on the latest developments in payments and fintech. Featuring interviews with opinion leaders, Glenbrook's own take on emerging technologies and industry trends, other news and views on this dynamic industry.
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Episodes

Episode 238 - Will Pay by Bank Really Compete with Cards? Trevor Nies, Adyen

The process of accepting payments is a labyrinth of complexity, and payment service providers are the guiding lights that help merchants navigate this maze. They assist in deciding which payments to accept, how to connect to networks, and, most crucially, how to optimize revenues and reduce risk. But what about the providers themselves? Is their work getting more or less complicated? We sat down with Trevor Nies (SVP, Global Head of Digital) who leads Adyen’s digital payments organization, to ex...

May 08, 202437 min

Episode 237 - Is Orchestration the New Normal In Payment Operations? A conversation with John Lunn, Gr4vy

In Episode 231 , Samantha Gordon and Simon Skinner discussed the orchestration framework they developed to help our clients decipher a somewhat overused term in the industry. It was a great discussion, and if you missed it, I recommend you give it a listen. We covered a lot of ground in that episode that sets up this conversation with John Lunn , CEO and Founder of Gr4vy . While preparing for this podcast, John observed that “every merchant has an orchestration platform; they just don’t call it ...

Apr 24, 202453 min

Episode 236 - How to Make Money in Payments with Russ Jones, Glenbrook Partners

Glenbrook's Russ Jones often chats with professionals working for companies inside the payments industry who are providing payments and services to end users such as businesses, enterprises, governments, and individuals. Or they may be working at an enterprise, a merchant, or a biller. And they’re all trying to figure out how to save money in payments. In this episode, Russ joins Yvette to talk through 8 simple ideas about how you make money in payments.

Apr 10, 202435 min

Episode 235 - Taking Stock in Fast Payments with Gregor Dobbie, CEO of TFPA and former CEO of Vocalink

Acquired by Mastercard in 2017, the UK’s Vocalink manages the UK’s Bacs payment system, ATM LINK switching platform, and the Faster Payments System, FPS. To make this more tangible, consider these statistics: Vocalink processes over 90% of UK salaries, more than 70% of household bills, 98% of state benefits, and powers 60,000 ATMs. Vocalink’s influence goes beyond the UK, with technology that powers fast payments infrastructure in countries such as the US, Thailand, Sweden, the Philippines, Peru...

Mar 27, 202451 min

Episode 234 - Partnerships in the Payments Industry - Insights, Musings, and Hard-Won Wisdom with Steve Klebe

Have you ever wished for a “payments sherpa”? Someone who would share their experiences, opinions, and advice about this industry - the uncut, “real real” of what can happen and what to remember as you move along your payments journey. In this episode, we sit down with one of our favorite payments industry sherpas - Steve Klebe. No stranger to our podcasts, this time Steve talks about payments partnerships. This is a topic Steve is passionate about - and for good reasons. Partnerships - the succ...

Mar 13, 202458 min

Episode 233 - How unexpected technology combinations can lead to practical payment solutions with Glendy Kam, Tassat

As humans, our brains like to organize things - classify them, put them in silos. This thinking often works to our advantage - enabling deep analysis and understanding. Sometimes, though, it can work against us. We can be bound to a siloed thought process - a “this or that” false choice that causes us to miss the greater value inherent in doing both. In searching for guests who will inspire us to eschew false choices in favor of unexpected combinations, we met Glendy Kam, Chief Product Officer a...

Feb 29, 202441 min

Episode 232 - Talking Payments and Fraud with Julie Fergerson, Merchant Risk Council

In this episode, Glenbrook Partners Yvette Bohanan, Russ Jones, and Chris Uriarte sat down with Julie Fergerson - a long-time payments professional who co-founded the Merchant Risk Council in 2000 and returned a few years ago to take on the role of CEO for what is now an industry-leading, global non-profit. We talk with Julie about how the payments industry has changed over the last two decades, with both the professionalization of payments and of fraud, and why she is now spearheading a certifi...

Feb 14, 202440 min

Episode 231 - Fanning the Flames: Payments Orchestration

In this episode, we are exploring one of the “buzziest” buzz words in payments today - orchestration. If you have been in the payments space for a long time, your reaction to hearing about orchestration might be “What’s all the fuss about? We’ve been evolving these capabilities for decades.” If you are new to the industry, you may think this is some kind of high-performance jet fuel that is painfully needed to improve a rather opaque transaction processing environment. Joining Yvette Bohanan are...

Feb 01, 202435 min

Episode 230 - Talking Central Bank Digital Currencies with Jim Cunha, Former EVP, Federal Reserve Bank of Boston

Launching a payment product requires big moonshot thinking alongside a lot of agonizing over the details. Understanding the market, the customer journey, and the technology - from every angle requires patience, persistence, and a beginner’s mindset to learn from every success and failure. Thinking about launching a new form of currency, however, is on another level altogether. There’s an entire population of a country to consider - what does each segment of the population require to be able to u...

Jan 17, 202454 min

Episode 229: What Glenbrook is Watching in Payments in 2024

It is a rare occurrence when we get to have ALL the Glenbrook partners in one episode of Payments on Fire! Glenbrook is kicking off the new year with a (lengthy) conversation on what payments industry trends and developments we think are the most interesting, compelling, and controversial at the moment, and what to watch as we move into 2024.

Jan 03, 202455 min

Episode 228 - Fanning the Flames: 2023 Payments News in Review

Debbie Bartoo, the editor of Glenbrook’s daily Payments News , guest hosts this Fanning the Flames episode of Payments on Fire alongside colleagues Justin Pituch and Will Eisler. Listen in as they discuss some of the top payments headlines of the year - fast payments, rising interest rates, BNPL, mobile wallets, identity, CBDCs, and (just a bit of) regulation. If you want to stay on top of the rapidly evolving payments world with all the headlines delivered each day to your inbox, subscribe to P...

Dec 13, 202336 min

Episode 227 - EMVCo: A Textbook Example of Collaboration with Oliver Manahan, EMVCo

What if every time you went to pay for something at a store, the clerk behind the counter had a different terminal for each card network - one for Visa, another for American Express, and a few others for local domestic networks? That was what much of the world was like decades ago - and it still is a bit like that in some countries today. But in 1999, collaboration entered the picture when Europay, Visa, and Mastercard came together to create a common specification for Chip and PIN so that any c...

Nov 29, 20231 hr 2 min

Episode 226 - From the Vault: Talking EMV in the USA (Episode 16)

Debit routing - once again, all the rage. On July 1, 2023, the US Federal Reserve’s clarification on Reg II went into effect. The clarification confirms that Reg II - which required unaffiliated debit network routing as part of the Durbin Amendment - also applies to CNP environments. What were we thinking in 2015 when debit routing at POS, contactless payments, and chip and PIN were “of the moment”? What lessons can we glean from a conversation then that apply now? We’ve pulled Episode 16 from o...

Nov 15, 202339 min

Episode 225 - Fanning the Flames: Money 20/20 Recap

Glenbrook's Bryan Derman, Chris Uriarte, and Drew Edmond are back from a few days of learning, networking, and speaking (including a live broadcast from the Money Pot) at this year's Money 20/20 conference in Las Vegas. Chris and Drew talk with Yvette Bohanan about the noteworthy payments trends they observed at the show and what related themes our team is paying attention to.

Nov 01, 202330 min

Episode 224 - Creating Best-in-Class Payment Experiences at Scale with Luda Sokolov and Aarti Bharathan, Google

Creating a great purchase experience may start with a frictionless checkout process, but it doesn’t end there. In fact, it takes a lot of effort to create a well-functioning payment platform and a cross-functional operations environment to keep a business running smoothly and customers happy. Like most things in life, it’s easier to talk about doing this than to do it. So it helps to learn from someone else’s experience about what has worked or hasn’t worked for them. In this episode, we go big ...

Oct 18, 202353 min

Episode 223 - Fanning the Flames: Merchant Fees and Surcharging

“So, have fees gone up?” Yvette Bohanan starts with the tough question in this Fanning the Flames episode. In our August Payments Post, Chris Uriarte and Justin Pituch observed an underlying theme of broad downward pressure on the cost of merchant processing as well as fee backlash directed towards card networks. Tune in to hear our thoughts on these fees and the impact on stakeholders across the industry.

Oct 04, 202324 min

Episode 222 - Fanning the Flames: Involuntary Churn

We get the opportunity to work with many different types of merchants in our Merchant Practice at Glenbrook: Global omnichannel retailers, marketplaces, commerce platforms, utilities, you name it. One of the major categories that we work with is subscription merchants, and they come with their own unique needs and perspectives. Subscription merchants and merchants that have recurring payments as part of their business model rely on the ability to charge their customers on an ongoing basis. In th...

Sep 27, 202345 min

Episode 220 - Stay Ahead of the Game: Understanding and Countering Policy Abuse with Eyal Elazar, Riskified

Policy abuse, a form of first-party fraud, occurs when a customer - whether legitimate or a professional posing as a legitimate customer - manipulates a business’s policies for financial gain. In this episode, Yvette Bohanan and Chris Uriarte sit down with Eyal Elazar, Head of Product Marketing at Riskified, to discuss policy abuse trends and the implications of consumers and professional criminals increasingly engaging in these schemes.

Sep 13, 202355 min

Episode 219 - Smart Takes on Cross-border Payments - Ryan Zagone, Head of Americas, Wise for Banks, and Joanna Wisniecka, Glenbrook

Government leaders, policymakers, and a host of incumbent and new providers are focusing on cross-border payments. Innovating to increase transparency, lower cost, and make funds available in near real-time is showing up on agendas and roadmaps across the globe. Money and resources are being thrown at this problem from every possible angle. Yet friction points persist. Money does not get to beneficiaries with equal speed. Costs remain high and hidden. Compliance screening and due diligence creat...

Sep 06, 202350 min

Episode 218 - The Technologies, Policies, and Realities of Cross-border Payments

Globally, cross-border payments represent $156 trillion annually - roughly 25% of global GDP - and are projected to reach nearly $250 trillion by 2027. From a payments industry perspective, these transactions account for approximately $40 billion of $2.1 trillion in fee-generated revenues, excluding foreign exchange ( 2022 McKinsey Global Payments Report ). These attention-grabbing numbers have been in the line of sight of regulators, innovators, and incumbents with increasing urgency. Improveme...

Aug 30, 202346 min

Episode 217 - Talking Moonshots with Jared Isaacman, Founder and CEO, Shift4

The payment provider space is a complex and crowded field in the payments universe, particularly when it comes to supporting merchants. Independent Sales Organizations, Payment Facilitators, and Commerce Enablers all work to simplify payment acceptance for merchants, yet they each craft specific go-to-market strategies and differentiated value propositions. The diversity of these stakeholders underscores the diversity of merchants' payment acceptance requirements. In this episode, we had the opp...

Aug 23, 202343 min

Episode 216 – Fanning the Flames: Payments Post #5

Each month, Justin Pituch recaps the news that got Glenbrook talking in his Payments Post. In a "double feature" for June and July, Justin covered two major themes: 1) organizations responding to greenfield opportunity in fast payments and 2) organizations recalibrating their post-COVID fintech bets. In this Fanning the Flames episode, Justin and Yvette Bohanan discuss these developments, as well as Justin's recent Payments Views posts on the pain of B2B and how ISO 20022 could help solve B2B da...

Aug 16, 202324 min

Episode 215 - From the Vault: On Faster Payments in the U.S. (Episode 10)

We find ourselves pondering many questions since the FedNow® launch, the third fast payments network introduced in the US. To gain perspective on the questions that have been asked and answered, and those that remain, we’re giving a second listen to Episode 10 - when George Peabody sat down with Carol Coye Benson to discuss The Clearing House’s announced plans for a multi-year effort that resulted in their fast payments network, RTP®.

Aug 09, 202318 min

Episode 214 - We Just Can’t Stop Talking About Tokenization

Issuer tokens, network tokens, EMV tokens - whatever you call them - continue to be a hot topic for merchants, payment service providers, issuing banks, processors, and the networks themselves. This “sleight of hand” substitution of a payment account number with an indistinguishable alternative carries with it a robust set of capabilities that have promised to reduce the value of breached payment account information, lower the cost of card replacement, and enable unique account numbers for the e...

Aug 02, 202350 min

Episode 213 - From the Vault: Payment Tokenization Continues to Roll (Episode 21)

Payments on Fire Episode 21, originally aired: June 15, 2015 Network tokenization - the promised land of payments. Like most promised lands, the journey there is epic and, well, hard. One question we hear from our clients, workshop participants, and the folks in our Merchant Round Table is: Are we there yet? We dug into our vault to understand the journey - where we started and how far we’ve come. We found Episode 21, when George Peabody and Russ Jones discussed network tokenization (aka issuer ...

Jul 26, 202324 minEp. 213

Episode 212 - Creating Customer Success in the Age of Embedded Finance with Ashley Isenberg, VP Revenue & Strategic Partnerships at Finix

While payment facilitation has opened up a new segment of service providers within the payments industry, embedded finance is opening up the world of payments to every company. The allure of embedded finance is rooted in the deepening of the customer relationship through offering meaningful financial products. This deeper relationship comes in the form of increased customer loyalty - or “stickiness” - and new revenue streams accretive to the company’s core business. This is all well and good, bu...

Jul 19, 202344 minEp. 212

Episode 211 - AI Unleashed: Exploring Fresh Horizons in Payments with Frank Young and Russ Jones

With all its associated technologies (neural networks, symbolic reasoning, search algorithms, probabilistic reasoning, expert systems, and more), AI has been evolving in universities, the government, and corporations for decades. But only those with a keen interest in this technology have been paying close attention to its progress. Meanwhile, a chatbot helped you when you contacted support. Or you used Alexa or Siri to answer a question, play some music, turn on your lights, buy something onlin...

Jul 12, 202351 minEp. 211

Episode 210 – From the Vault: Bitcoin Discussion with Scott Loftesness (Episode 1)

Payments on Fire Episode 1, originally aired: September 7, 2014 Innovation in the payments industry is a funny thing. Sometimes payments lead. Sometimes technology leads. Increasingly around the world, regulators lead. In preparing for an upcoming podcast on AI, Yvette thought about Glenbrook’s first Payments on Fire podcast episode - in 2014 - on Bitcoin. So we’re pulling it from the vault to share. If you have ever wanted to be a fly on the wall while industry thought leaders contemplated the ...

Jul 05, 202326 min

Episode 209 - Part 2 of What’s Hot, What’s Not, and What We’re Watching: Checking in at 2023’s Halfway Point with Glenbrook

In Part 2, Yvette Bohanan continues the conversation from Episode 206 with the commercial practice team at Glenbrook. We cover some new topic areas, including banks, risk and fraudsters, and the investment community in this macroeconomic environment. Listen in to see what we're watching, where we might see some blind spots, or where the next set of curveballs will be coming as we get into the back half of 2023.

Jun 28, 202325 min
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