From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Life. Well, said Dylan, We're going to Monday night. Lots to get to. Let's get straight to the news that I am sad to say that the person police believe responsible for that horrific attack on little Luca, the little Bubba we told you about a couple of weeks ago. Well, they now believe that this bloke has actually fled the country. Thankfully, Luca is up and walking, smiling, cuddling with mum and dad.
His scarring will be lifelong. He is an in and out of hospital over the next few weeks with a collection of skin grafts. But we were told there was going to be a major announcement today from the police in Queensland and this is what they told us. It's not what any of us wanted to hear. We wanted to hear that this person apparently had been found, identified and arrested, but Alas apparently got out of the country pretty quick.
Subsequent inquiries have identified that a person has left Australia and the QPS are working closely with our partner, both national and international law enforcement agency to get this to progress, this investigation further.
So Okay, now we go from the Queensland focus to an international one. How does that work.
It's still very much alive investigation and any information provided to where that person may be will jeopardize the further inquiries we're making.
Now we're in a strange moment here because we are not actually supposed to know the name of the baby, because it is a victim of crime, and a victim of crime under the age of eighteen. Therefore, you are the theory is you don't identify the victim because that will will follow them for the rest of their life. But you're also not supposed to identify the apparent perpetrator
because that too may well end up identifying the victim. Now, clearly we're in a scenario now where the parents have made it very clear what the name of their baby is, and Luca's name has been out on social media as released by the family. Clearly, the images that we have seen in the moments after the attack, and frankly for the past few weeks it's just been this one or
two photos. Now, the police seemed very obvious that the person who they've been showing in and around their photos, well, it started off for somebody to help with inquiries, and now it seems to be the main focus of the inquiry.
The police need to name who this person is. We need to know the details because pretty obviously the technology exists to be able to take a face of somebody and run it through all of the different computers that the world has to be able to work out if he was a tourist, Well, did he come here via a passport? The passport image will have been captured somewhere
because you can't get into the country without scanning your passport. Now, if the law is so dense that it can't be changed, then I am asking the Queensland Government to find a way through the Parliament to be able to even if we need to pass an individual piece of legislation to identify this one single person, Let's do it. Because I want to know this bloke's name. I want to tell you this bloke's name. I want everyone in Queensland who may not know the image but know the name, to
know this bloke's name. Now again, I am being responsible because I know there's all sorts of speculation that will exist on social media. I'm not going to echo that here because our own legal advice is the rules of Queensland and is the rules generally speaking about the identification of both alleged perpetrator and obvious victim. Now, it is a disgrace that this bloke has been able to leave the country. As I say, if he was a resident of Queen's Land, then there should be a greater digital
footprint for us to have greater information. If he was a tourist in the country and therefore was always planning to leave, again, the entry and exit information should be made public. Now. Police today were going to some lengths to pretend to say that they couldn't tell us what was going on because they didn't want this person to know that they were on the tail. Bugger that it is time for the world to know this man's name. It must be done legally and if that requires a
special Act of the Parliament, do it. There's still a few days before the Parliament will rise and then we start to turn our attention towards the election. This is more important than the run to the election, is to know who this person is. Strength and love to Luca as always and Luca's family. We will continue to update because all of us want the person responsible for this to be caught. And if that means that his name is known and social media is able to use correct
language from official sources, good fine by me. Now let's take a little bit of time to actually go through the report that came out today, the Royal Commission report, which you've been going for some years into veteran suicide. Now, you know, as long term viewers of the program, we've been talking about this for as long as we've had access to a television camera or microphone. I spoke about it a lot on radio, written about in the paper.
You know that I share your love of everyone who defends the country, and I share the tragedy of those who end up taking their own lives after serving their country. In fact, it was years ago, now, I believe it or not, when the women who were brave enough to stand up and ask for a form of accountability out of governments, the Department of Veterans Affairs and so many others.
Way back twenty nineteen is when we had all those mums around the table talking about their boys, talking about the system that broke their boys, and talking about a system that broke their boys even after they had left the service. Today, one of the Royal Commissioners Nick CAWLSS, a man who should have been a police commissioner but thankfully was not, so his work was able to be
in this area. He has presented a massive report, six different volumes, incredible detail in all of it, and he is in part what he had to say about that massive volume of effort. This is where I've been spending most of my day to day, not all the way through it, and I'll bring him more tomorrow, but this is why he reflects on the importance of this report and why it's one of those moments where the nation has to stand still pay attention.
Well, when there's been dozens of inquiries and hundreds of recommendations, I'd say that's a failure and leadership. What is clear from some of the horrible stories that we've heard is that many people simply turn the blind eye over many years and felt that it was too hard. We feel that unless there is an entity with enough power and resources to tackle the problems, they're simply going to persist.
You can't keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect the result to come out different.
The report concludes that there have been twelve hundred suicides in the lead up to the Royal Commission. There are other stats in there again, I'll bring them to you tomorrow night. But amazingly, again, one of the co commissioners told us that the majority of people that have taken their own lives didn't actually end up going to war, which means they've been traumatized while being in the service and in the country.
It certainly is a misconception. People associate suicide with the experience of PTSD alone coming from combat experiences. That's not actually what we're finding. What we're finding is there is a lot of trauma and a lot of exposure to trauma, but it's trauma through the cumulative effects of what they experienced day in and day out through service and into their post service life.
So it's not.
Combat related, but it is trauma related.
That's really important. Now, there are all sorts of findings here that are more than one hundred and twenty of them. I think all of them seem incredibly reasonable to me, and they should be already being adopted by the government. But I'll get to that in a second. But again, rather than just brush over it and then move on to the next subject and get into the red meat
of the team red, team blue. Let's actually pay respect to those that have taken their own lives, respect to the mothers who made this Royal Commission happen, and respect to the need and the work of this Royal Commission to actually have a look at what it has recommended. Now, I'm not going to sit here and read under twenty recommendations to you, but there are going to be a few, so have a look here. Believe the Defense should take
steps to mitigate adverse impacts of posting. So when you move families around all the time, what are the difficulties that appear for the families? What precious does that put on the soldiers? Great recommendation recommendation five support serving members is to decompress, rest and regenerate, especially after high risk experiences. These high risk experiences could be everything from live fire
training exercises all the way through to war. Excellent recommendation seven is to increase the employment opportunities of members of the Defense Force in other parts of the Defense Force. So if you go from being a soldier, then there should be an opportunity for you to find work within the Defense Force rather than just being forced to choose between being an active service member and somebody who is working in service of other service members. That is an
excellent recommendation. Recommendation eleven, it assesses of the Australian Defense Force leadership has to start hearing about their role in culture, health and well being. And importantly they have to start listening to the people below them, and the people below them should have greater power in helping to decide who moves up the ranks. So rather than just people moving up the ranks because they're good politicians inside the organization, are they good people? Are they good leaders of men
and women? Recommendation twelve, consider the emotional intelligence of people as they move up through the organization. Again, you know, just hire the person who's going to follow the rule book and implement the policy from the current level of brass or do what the government wants. You promote people who have the support of the people below them, who have the caring and the understanding and the emotional capacity
to continue to move up the leadership ranks. Nineteen. Protect victims of sexual misconduct inside the service and make sure that there are absolutely no consequences to their career for speaking up. Now there are plenty of examples of people who don't speak up because they're afraid that that will effectively in their career and they will stay at the
rank that they currently are. We need to have a scenario where the person who tells the truth about what is happening to them or has been happening to them and whom did it is given the capacity to move up. And rather than the old network protecting itself and making sure that people who complain are trouble makers and pushed out the side door, know that shouldn't be the case.
That should be written into the law. Recommendation twenty two is to adopt a policy of mandatory discharge for any member of the Australian Defense Force who is convicted of sexual or related offenses, no second chances, no other ways around. I'm not talking about minor stuff. We're talking about making sure that once it is proven that you have done wrong by your fellow member of the Defense Force in
those areas, out the door goodbye. Of course, obviously, whoever goes out the door, they should also have the levels of emotional support to make sure that they too don't end up in a scenario where they go from sort of rooster to feather duster in a day, and everyone doesn't look the take care of them. But you get my point. Recommendation thirty nine this is important because I want to respect the work of the Royal Commission. I know you care about it. I know you can follow
the detail. Thank you for being patient as I go through this, but it really matters. Recommendation thirty nine is to address the risk factors of suicide and suicideality and report progress as part of this in and around the Defense Force. So suicide and awareness of it, awareness of what the warning signs might be, and the process of make sure that we can capture people before they go down a very dark path. Excellent Idea forty two ensure that future inspector generals of the ADF are not from
the ADF. Obviously, I don't want a bunch of identitarians and lifetime public servants trying to turn the Defense Force into a woke version of the Tax Office with guns. I get it. But if part of the problem is the culture, the way to break the culture is you've got to bring somebody in from outside on top of the process, so that regardless of whose mates with who and who owes who a favor that the right thing is done. The Inspector General should automatically be able to
investigate the deaths of by suicide of serving members. So again this doesn't just go off automatically, and it still goes to a coronial process, but the ADF doesn't get to say, sorry, wipe our hands, not our problem anymore. Now it's a state police matter because someone did something
under a bridge. Excellent. Excellent idea forty eight. When a memberdize by suicide, legal officers to represent the interests of that person and their family are appointed by the ADF, so it's not just your family that's fighting the bureaucracy.
You essentially have sort of a lawyer on your behalf, a legal aid paid for by the taxpayer person to help traverse the process because normal people obviously are not equipped to be able to go up against the giant bureaucracies and the cultures in and around the Defense Force. I think that's very close to the best of all
of the recommendations. There also should be the establishment of a brain injury program because the reality is that, as we know, there are consequences when people play high contact sport and may well go on to have issues with their brains that may well result in mental illness and a noise and a frustration that means they eventually end up taking their own life. The same should be there
for the members of the Defense Force. They need to improve the access and timelines of quality mental health screening. So this stuff needs to be as important to the Defense Force as the physical preparedness of the Defense Force. Your mental health matters. The Department of Veters Affairs should be able to fund a program to support well being in the transition from your time in the Defense Force
to civilian life. Now, I am a little surprised that in many of the recommendations there is no plan to blow up and restart the Department of Veterans Affairs. In my view, the Department of Veterans Affairs has shown itself to be like a private insurance company. Do its best to delay as long as possible, do its best to deny no even if you've served the country for a day. I say role gold treatment for every single one of the brave men and women who decide to put the
uniform on another one. Increase the opportunities for members to gain civilian qualifications from defense training and education. So rather than just saying on your CV X number of years in the ADF, here are the things that I've done, start to put a qualification next to it, so I
know that you can do your service and do extra education. Well, why not the stuff you learn in the Defense Force counts as the the same sorts of things that would result with you getting a trade certificate or a university degree. Again excellent eighty five develop employment pathways for ex servicemen
and women in the public sector. What a great idea. Again, once you go from being an active service member, if there's not a job for you somewhere inside the ADF, then why not try to find a way to use these skills in the wider public service. Excellent idea because it's all about creating pathways to quote unquote normal life after serving. You have to establish a brand new agency, and normally I hate bureaucracy. But if a brand new agency is exclusively focused full time job of people to
be on veterans well being, great. You can't fund it enough, you can't have enough enough people in it. Because people need to be taken care of. You need to improve support communication with those defense families, not wait for them to dig through to find the answers, give them the answers when they ask. Finally, one oh six establish a suicide database for serving an ex serving members. Because this is the point, the numbers still are vague. We are
still in a gray zone about numbers. The numbers that are in this Royal Commission are clear about what happened prior to the Royal Commission, and then it gets a little vague from when this thing started. And it started of course in and around twenty nineteen, so it's been going for a couple of years. You would think by now there would be an absolute clarity of any and everyone who has worn the uniform is wearing the uniform and takes their own life, that we count that as
a suicide of an ex service person. One of the many mothers that has been fighting for this, they spoke today to the newspapers. The transition from the ADF back to civilian life is something that needs to be implemented as soon as possible. When mental health issues often caused within the ADF are the reason for the discharge, they shouldn't be medically discharged immediately like my son. You see, that's an important point. You don't just get discharged off there,
she pensioned nothing else to see. If the problems occur because of what happened in the workplace, and this of course is a very unique workplace, then the workplace has a responsibility and yes, that means in many ways financial to follow you, in my view, for the rest of your life. Colleen Pillen, again whose son took her own life, says ongoing support even after discharge is also important to ensure the well being of all members. The veterans should
be retrained, retrained for other suitable roles. Well. Again, that is part of what is in this report. Great to see Jackie Lamby. I have my problems with her. I disagree with her most of the time. She has worn the uniform and she has led the charge. She has led the charge for this to become the Royal Commission. It is to her credit that that has now happened. Her belief and again at this point I can't see
anything and in the Royal Commission. But she thinks the problem is the Defense Force Academy itself, that there is a problem with the way that we train, and that there's a problem with the way that we promote and there's a problem with the people who go into certain levels of Defense Force training. She says, blow it all up, start again, and.
You can wonder why those families and those mothers that have been out there for years and everybody else is saying, don't join until it's fixed. I do not want to have to get on that bandwagon, but if they don't change their ways over the next three to six months.
I will, and that is going to hurt.
If you want to fix the culture of leadership in defense, I suggest that today you make a decision as a government to shut down the Australian Defense Force Academy. Okay, shut it down because running getting a lot of little rich kids there with no life experience, and they're the ones that end up in charge.
Which takes us back to the things about emotional intelligence, about the people beneath you having a role in who ends up moving up, making sure that the people who complain about those who move up are not kept at a certain level and then eventually pushed out the side door. Again. I disagree with so much, and I've talked about it, but I have to give credit where it's due, and she deserves the credit on this particular issue. I hope that she uses her many media platforms to follow through
with what these recommendations are. Now, both the Prime Minister and Peter Dudden have thanked the commissioners for the report. They've said all the right things about the service people. But then the Prime Minister today amazingly turned around and has not told us how many of these how many of these recommendations that is willing to accept and when,
if ever they will actually be put in place. Now this matters because the government didn't get the report today like the rest of us, and it's had to try to read six volumes of hundreds and hundreds of pages. They've had it presumably for a little period of time. That's always what happens, which is they get a heads up to be able to read, to be able to look through, to be able to go through. The Prime Minister tomorrow needs to walk in and say that he
will support all of the recommendations. Peter Duton should do the same thing too.
And this is where the Government will thoroughly consider every recommendation. We will work across the Parliament on those issues and do what we can to ensure that just as our veterans and defense personnel step up for our country where you have an obligation to step up.
For them, So do it. Do it, prioritize it. You've got Parliament. If there's any need to change laws in the next week, you've got a chance to do it. It comes back a couple of weeks after that. Front and center, front and center. You will have no doubt by partisan support on all of this stuff. If I am missing some little detail, that might be a hiccup here. But all of those things that I've just shown you, all of the extreme majority of one hundred and twenty things
that I have shown you are all pretty easy. They're all to be done, and I don't care how much it costs. Australians need to know that their Defense Force takes care of people who are willing to put their lives on the line to take care of us. To any current member of the Australian Defense Force, thank you for what you do. To every former member of the Defense Force, thank you for what you have done. Thank
you for your service. If you are the CEO, a chairman, a middle manager of any company in any part of the country, when a person who has served this country applies for a job, give it to them because they need to be known that they are loved. And finally, to the families of those that are currently serving or those that have served in the past, strength and love. It is a tough life, it is a hard life. And I know how proud you are of the men and women who serve, so again on the behalf of
a very grateful nation. Thank you for what you do to prop them up. It is now the job of twenty seven million other people in the country to prop you up and to prop them up now. I don't know why Australia is having yet again another example about
drug shortages. We are a country that supposedly is well connected, supposedly sits around amongst the highest leadership levels, that a G eight or a G twenty, that has a front row seat at the United Nations, that has first name basis relationships with the President of the United States, the Prime Minister of the UK, the Prime Minister of India, and supposedly a good relationship at the moment with China.
Could somebody please explain to me why Australia is running out of the drugs that will either keep people alive or keep people safe while they are going through a medical process. This is a massive failure, meager failure. And I'm tired of people saying they care about the health system and trust us because we're better than the other guy, when the reality is that this is the litany of
failure under this government. When it comes to the drugs available to people when they're having elective or non elective surgery, Australia ran out of IV drips for a period of time. Patients were being told to drink water so they could ration be amount of IV drips. That also started to lead to vets having to think twice about how to use them, meaning their beautiful animals that we all loved
were passing away. We've also had an issue when it comes to morphine supplies, desperately vital in things like palliative care and pain management. Thousands of people have a drug that they can take that will guarantee that they do not end up with HIV. Why is there not enough of it in the country right now? And we learn today there's another drug shortage. This one is in and
around obstetrics women about to have babies. Critical obstetrics medicine shortages in Australia are putting pregnant women at risk of serious complications. Top doctors have revealed, with some hospitalized after missing treatment. This is a disgrace. This is an absolute disgrace. Some of the countries leading sorry obstetricians have put their name behind an urgent core for the federal government to get involved. Do it now. Because Australia cannot rely on
pharmaceutical companies to supply cheap but critical medicines. The Raw Women's Hospital Maternity services boss told the Herald Son that the supply of several blood pressure medicines have been stopped or interrupted. This is a disgrace. This must be fixed tomorrow. Any and everyone with access to a microphone and a camera who calls themselves a journalist, a reporter, hit up your local health minister, hit up the federal health minister.
Where is the action, Why is this happening and why is it only after it gets into the media that someone gets off their ars and actually does something about it. Meantime, again, don't fall for the Labor Party's spin and lies about healthcare now. Traditionally in Australia, things like defense and immigration and economic strength normally goes to the conservative side of politics. Things like education and health generally speaking, goes to the
progressive side of politics. But the progressive side of politics lets you down. Remember before the last Victorian election, thirty three people had died because the triplo system under Daniel Andrews and Labour's watch had become so bad that they were handing around posted notes. Yet they won an election anyway. Now, this one again is a relation to the federal government
and particularly the state government of Victoria. Now, these people, they travel around hospitals, they point at people, they love, the unionized workforce, then they simply move on. Well, what about this. Victoria is now auctioning off health equipment because of how bad their budget is. Imagine if the Libs did this, could you imagine the freak out and rightly so. Gloves, gown's protective eye where surgical masks, syringes, and cleaning consumables are among the items to be sold in the first
of two public auctions, which opened last week. Now, if they have too much of it, because obviously we panic ordered during the pandemic. If we have an access, try and push it around the other states and what we don't need, try to move it on to people like our Pacific Island neighbors. Why is this being sold for a buck? Why is the Victorian taxpayer so skint that we are flogging off Ppe to try to make the budget look better. Details of the auction have been obtained
by the Herald Son. They show three hundred pallets of Ppe is off to be sold. That's Victoria. Now let's go to Queensland. The idiot Stephen Miles is doing any in everything he can to desperately hold on before, hopefully the people of Queensland flush him and his government. May they lose all of their seats at the upcoming election.
Amongst them hopefully will be Shannon Fentman. But Shannon Fentaman, of course, she tried to be the person who took over, but Miles had to deal with the unions, so he became the premier. She's had the weight well, she's a terrible health minister, but she's already's starting to measure the drapes on becoming the Labor leader should they lose the election in October. Talk about a lack of focus? What
about this? Stephen Miles and Shannon Fentaman are running around the Sunshine Coast, the beautiful Sunshine Coast because they were able to scare particularly older voters of the last election to the Sunshine Coast voting Labor for the first time in a while. So they're out and about bsing that they're about to drop a brand new hospital on the Sunshine Coast. They claim they've got the money fully funded, seventy eight million dollars it's going to turn up. But
guess what, they can't tell you where. So does anyone actually believe it's going to be built. Of course, it won't be built between now and the election, and they won't be thereafter the election. So if you're on the Sunny Coast and you think, oh, how good is this Labour's going to build me a new hospital, guess what they can't tell you where it's going to be built. Labour has promised to build seventy eight million dollar satellite hospital but has not confirmed the suburb in which it
will be built. Fair dincome, unbelievable and speaking of how the Labor Party has polluted the electoral politics of Queensland and in my view created jerrymanderin which is a very polite word for rigging. Remember I lost my top about the funding measure which means that all political parties are limited about the amount of money that they can spend in any one seat, but third parties are allowed to also spend as much as any one political party in
a seat. And guess who counts as a third party in Queensland unions, which means that unions, and there are many of them, they could affect actively outspend every other party in your seat ten to one. It is a disgrace that this system was allowed to happen, but there's no Upper House in Queensland, so if you have a majority, you change the rules and that's exactly what they did.
Fifteen million dollars is the expectation. Well doneder the reporting in the Australian on this Queensland's Union movement is readying a potential war chairs of up to fifteen million dollars in a bid to secure an unlikely victory for Stephen Miles. It'll be dwarfing the people that are backing the Liberal National Party. It's the first election since the strict donation laws are put in place about spending caps where total is eight and a bit almost nine million, ninety five
thousand per electorate. The Register of Third Parties now says unions and lobby groups. Now, despite the fact unions of course are the ALP, they are magically apparently independent of the twenty nine third party is registered. Fifteen of them a unions. So in any one seat, fifteen to one Labor over the Greens, fifteen to one, Labor over the LNP, fifteen to one Labor over one nation, catdter UAP. It's
a disgrace. May they be rewarded with losing their seats at the upcoming election and a new government making it a genuine open playing field. Now, as you know, Australians don't use cash anymore. There are many of us that would like to keep it going. So you keep a little in your pocket if you can. You try to pay in cash where you can, but most people now
tap and go, they pay with cards. Now, as you know, about four billion b four billion dollars is now being raised by the financial institutions, the banks of this country because of the fees. The fees do you to be able to access your own money. Now there is a push on here to get these things banned. A parliamentary inquiry is looking at it as we speak. The first party that comes out and says they'll ban this crap or they'll have to effectively limit it like the private
Hill Health Insurance rebate. Well, they're going to do pretty well at the upcoming federal election. Also, there's some breaking news tonight in and around social media. Now, as you know, in social media, there is a plan in South Australia to limit the age of people before they can establish a social media account. This thing's great now. Basically, social media in terms of its consequences on young people is as bad I believe, as bad as tobacco or alcohol
or drugs. Since smartphones have been increased, the amount of mental health problems with our kids has exploded. This is a great idea. The South Australian Premier is first cab off the rank, followed by the Victorian premiere.
Here in South Australia, we are seeking to adopt a position of leadership. To put it simply, the proposed legslive framework from the report suggests this model that state government would legislate to put in effect a positive obligation and duty on social media companies themselves to ensure that children are under the age of fourteen are getting access to those platforms.
So it's time to give parents the power to push back, not against kids, but against the tech giants. That's why we're going to put age limits on social media. These rules won't target parents or kids, but they'll target the tech giants because they're the ones we need to hold to account.
Now, the breaking news tonight is the federal government is going to introduce a national band, so all this state stuff's not going to matter. We don't know. The age range could be anywhere from thirteen to sixteen. I say, let's bring it down to twelve. Let's make it teen. Let's absolutely push this stuff as low as we possibly can. More details on that as it comes through tomorrow about exactly the age group, but no doubt the opposition would
back this in as well. And finally, a reminder, the debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump will be here on Sky News Wednesday morning, Australian time at eleven am. It's Tuesday night in the United States and the latest polling it shows Trump leading now not just in the key swing states. That is happening in a lot of poles. Not just leading with the bookies. We've shown you that many times before, not just leading when it comes to
the prediction markets. We've again shown you that before, but the New York Times the a grade pole, certainly for the media. It shows Trump is up by one point in the two horse race. He's up two points once you start to add in everyone else. Interestingly, sixty percent of the country say it's headed in the wrong direction and fifty something percent of people I think it's fifty five, so that Kamala Harris represents more of the same. So
that's good numbers going into the debate. Now, of course, post debate, all of these changes, but have a look at this when you start to break down the different regions where Harris is beating Trump, well, she is only doing it in the northeast, New York, the West, California. He's winning in the Midwest and the South where guess what all the swing states are. Meantime, there's a huge split here between men and women when it comes to blokes, fifty six percent of them of pro Trump, thirty nine
percent Harris. It's almost the other way around, but not as intense. In fact, Trump has more support with women than Harris has with men. Watch this space, it's going to be a fascinating debate. Eleven am here on Sky News. You don't have to go anywhere else. We'll be showing the ABC debate from the United States. Here myself and the wonderful read of Pane. He will be doing our sort of political goggle box thing that'll pop up in the afternoon at skynews dot com dot a quick breakback.
We have more lots to talk about, including the Keep the Sheep movement, well, the man who is absolutely going to rip the Labour Party a new one. He'll join us in a moment or two. Time the debate about the day's news team Red Team Blue next in a second. Thank you very much for watching, A huge, huge, wonderful
thanks to Sam Crosby. Because Sam Crosby quite correctly pointed out while I was rattling on about all things to do with social media, you don't want the limit as low as possible, and want as high as possible, So of course I say as high as possible. Let's get it sixteen seven eight eight, en, don't care, all right, as high as possible, I truly, truly, truly believe, and all the evidence is there that the exposure of this stuff it is as bad and all of our attitudes
to drugs, alcohol, smoking. The same should be about social media when it comes to kids. I know that will make me unpopular with teenagers, but alas, that's why we're adults. Matt Canavan joins us as well from Canberra. Sam's in the room right now. Thank you for saving my backside, Sam, appreciate it. Here. So let's talk about the opinion polling. I went into a great detail last night, which was that Australians have never bought the garbage of the government,
that it's the RBA. They know that it's the government that's the one who's driving the economy, that it's the government who needs to accept responsibility around inflation and as a result the farnus that have led to twelve interest rate rises on this government's watch, thirteen overall since things started just before the last election. Matt, I know it doesn't surprise you, but it is good to see some data backing in well, certainly my sizeable gut about how people feel on this stuff. Yeah.
Look, I'm not surprised by Paul. I think the more the government has sought to blame others, the more people get very skeptical and cynical about our government trying to blame shift to other people, and they're more likely to not believe what the government says. They tend to not to believe what politicians say, So the more a politician says it's someone else's fault, people are probably by default hardwired to believe the opposite is actually is your fault.
And anybody who's looked at this closely, along with almost every major economist out there, has pointed out that this government has presided over a massive expansion of government spending on their own figures in the budget papers, they have increased spending based on their own policy decisions by forty billion dollars in two years. It's the fastest increase we've seen on those measures outside of COVID since the Kevin
Rada government. At least Kevin raud was responding to a global financial crisis and had some reason to try and pump prime their economy, try and put some fuel into the economy. But all this fuel has done of government spending the last couple of years has fueled inflation, and I'm not surprised that people are blaming the government for that. I think the beef I was to provide advice to labor.
I'm not the business of doing that. But instead of winging about it, do something about it, actually take responsibility and come up with a plan to get inflation down. Stop trying to blame other people.
Susan Lane and Jim Charmers, they went back and forth on this today, Treasure. Why does the alb and Easy Labor government thinks it's acceptable to bully the independent RBA in this way when all they're doing is cleaning up labour's economic mess.
First of all, the governor of the Reserve Bank doesn't consider it the way that the Deputy leader has said.
Also, Jim Chalmers out there today Sam pretending that he didn't say what he said last week, pretending, Oh I didn't attack her. We're not different, We're not, We're in completely the same place. Come on, do we all need to play the tapes from last week? Yeah?
I mean, look, in terms of the poll today, I think the MAT's right. There is a perception problem here and they do need to get their arms around it and start dealing with it. You know, I think I think they're in the process of doing this. I mean, the reality is, and this is where Matt and I will disagree. The reality is that when you look at the RBA saying what is the underlying drivers of this?
They're saying between fifty to seventy five percent of this is the Ukraine for energy and is actually COVID for housing because we stop building houses for so long and now we're in this mad rush to catch up. They're the underlying drivers according to the Reserve Bank of Australia. But to Matt's point and to the poll's point, I don't think people actually care at the end of the day when they're seeing their growth through bills go up six seven eight percent every quarter.
Well, and let's be honest too. The reality, and this is not letting the government of thought, but the reality
is that no company puts down their prices ever. Absolutely so if we've gone through this massive up, it's going to stay at this massive up, right, which means that the political python effect of all of that becomes even worse for labor because it's not so even though you know Leo's imagine, everything goes the way they want it to and we start to see interest rates come down, Matt, the cost of everything that has cost more, from insurance
to a dairy and everything else in between. It's way up since they took over and they promised to not have that result.
Well, the answer to that, Paul, is to grow the economy. If we can become wealthier and more productive than what seemed expensive today, won't be as expensive tomorrow because we'll all be earning more and be better off. And I think that it's not an easy answer for people to get through. It's not a quick hit, a sugar hit for people. But I do think the Australian people are
crying out for some leadership. I do think they'd be open to a government who could level with people and say we need to make some hard choices around government spending, but you do some hard things to get economic reform going and stimulate our economy, lower regulation on business. Now, all those things will take time to flow through, but you look at previous labor governments, like their core Keating government, they had an economic reform agenda, they had a long
term plan for the Australian economy. It's very hard to pinpoint such a plan from this government. Accept some pretty shallow slogans about a future made in Australia and a housing plan that's not building houses that it doesn't it all's too good. It sounds too good to be true, and people, I think get the fact that it is too good to be true. You can't get something good by just making easy decisions. You've got to make some
tough decisions in life to get a good outcome. And I think there's a real vacuum in leadership across Australia and most state governments right now that people are looking for some of the feel well.
And also you've got a whole bunch of state governments who have worked out that if you promise some mega train project it'll take six years to build, you get the political hit out of here's the plan, and you get whenever you're in trouble. You can announce the graphics of what it's going to be, but the reality is all a lot of that building stuff that's happening at the state level is in part what is pushing some of this inflation as well. All right, let's turn to America,
because keep the sheep. We're going to have a chat in a moment or two about that. I know you're all in on that, Matt, no doubt will be out there tomorrow when plenty of people are there for the big protest. But this pile. Obviously everything gets reset when it comes to the debate. But Sam Trump nationally to points up, not one point, because it's not a two horse race, there's multiple other candidates. The places where he's up as well, Look, surprise, surprise, coasts love her and
everywhere else, he's got a massive gap. And literally he has a stronger vote with women than she has with men.
Yeah, the interesting part for me in that poll because I think you talk to a lot of Americans and it's reflected back to the interesting part for me from that pole. You go down a few questions and thirty percent of Americans say they don't know enough about Carmlala Harris to make their minds up. Which when you think through a normal presidential cycle, you've been through twenty different
presidential debates, you've been you're a national figure. She's been the vice president, and people inside the bubble know her very very well. People outside of the bubble, they are saying loud and clear they do. Like forty percent of Hispanics, forty percent of Blacks say they don't know anything about her. They're remarkable numbers. So you know, the debate coming up really is an opportunity for her to educate the public and introduce herself to the public about who she is.
There's also Matt Again. My suggestion, not that I have anything other than the seat that I have many thousands of kilometers away, is that the rules are great for Trump because the mic on Mike Off stuff just forces him into a level of discipline. It also denies her that moment of you know, I'm speaking, I'm speaking all of that, so he can kind of mogadon through this.
He doesn't need to knock her out because the reality is if it's tending his way, she words salads a little bit, but more importantly, he doesn't monster her in the political sense. Then we go back to where we were the day before the debate, which was when he's winning. Yeah.
Well, Trump's a big boxing fan, of course, so I think knowing that he probably won't try and throw a lot of haymakers in the final round if he's ahead on points, you're probably right there.
I look.
I think mostly when you look back at elections, debates actually aren't that definitive. Obviously the last debate was an exception to that rule. But we're probably going to just have something like a status quoi. As I've been saying on your program for months here, Karmla is not a good candidate for the Midwest, and this poll shows that, and this election will be decided in the Midwest.
Well important to note too, again super nerdy point. Inside this poll, sixty percent Americans say the country's head in the wrong direction. Fifty five percent of people say Harris is more of the same. So if you've got that, if you've got that crossover, and Trump represents change, I know there's other polls that say that he represents extreme change. Again, this is the whole fundamental thing Ye've been building for four years.
No, I hear what you're saying. I genuinely think that I would take that question with the grain of salt. When you're trying to poll the likely the likely electorate that's turning out to vote, questions like that are extremely difficult. I mean, Karma Harris's whole strategy is the same that Obama's was, that she wants to enlarge it with first time vote as young voters, people that are traditionally report
the poles. It's not like in Australia where we know what the college is that's turning up it's the same election to elect.
And also important to note to here abortion in terms of ranked issues now is equal. In fact, I think it's a little ahead of immigration at this election. But of course economy double or everything. Thank you lads, do appreciate it longer next work, I promise, because we've got Tony Seabrook. Tony Seabrook is the man who is life, the spiritual godfather, will to keep the sheep movement, three
thousand farmers on their way to Camber tomorrow. He's fired up and he's promising to make labor pay for the decision to kill off the live export industry n a SEC. Tomorrow is going to be a huge day in Canberra.
I don't care how the press gallery covers it, because the reality is they are going to have to come face to face with some very annoyed people, particularly from Western Australia, whose businesses is going to be killed off by this government, by the cabal of the Greens, Teals and all the rest of the live sheep exports should industry should be turned off by twenty twenty eight. Now. Tony Seabrook is of course from the Parcelor's Association. We spoke to him for a couple of minutes when we're
in Wa a couple of weeks ago. But I wanted to get him front and center because he is right in the middle of this one. Keep the sheep. I want to get this thing to one hundred thousand people. He's already there in Canberra. Trucks have been coming across from Western Australia. Do you feel like you're going to have a big one to morrow.
Mate, Paul. I think we're going to have a huge one. And it's not just West Australian. They're coming from the Northern Territory, Queensland and South Australia, Victoria. The support has been fantastic and it's not just about live sheep. It's about what agriculture has been, the way it's being treated by this current government.
And as you said when we spoke in port Headland, they've already made their decisions. They seemingly are immovable. But when you are faced with a group of workers who literally have to give up their own time and money to come and protest, I'm not talking a bunch of sort of professional students here. It carries more weights. This is not professional protesters. These are pissed off people, Paul.
Everybody coming across represents a business, a very large business. They employ people, not just a rowdy crowd. These are very very stable, very sensible people, and they are dead angry. But most of all, as I said earlier on, it's about keep the sheep, but it's about keep the cattle exports. It's about getting the government off our back. It's getting them to listen to what we want to say to them,
because at the moment they're not listening. And I'd be very surprised if any of the labor people that should be there will be there tomorrow.
So what is the plan for what you're going to present tomorrow? Obviously you want to keep some level of surprise, but what's the plan for the program? What are we going to see tomorrow?
Look, I think what's going to come out of this is the only decision that we are able to take, and that is that to get the government to reverse the decisions not possible. So we just need to make certain the government does not get elected next time. This is eminently doable, and they're making one one serious mistake after another, sort of that demonstrates that the total lack of ability they have to understand how an economy should run.
They throw on WS sheep producers under the bus, but they've also thrown almost every prom producer in the cut under the bus, and the cattle guys are well aware that they're going.
To be next. So let's be clear. You want one hundred thousand signatures by eleven am tomorrow. I'm looking at your website now ninety two, four hundred and fifty four. There's more than eight thousand people watching the show right now. So you go to Keep the Sheep dot com dot au. Keepths Sheep dot com dot au, name, email details, back these people in on it at one hundred thousand by midnight tonight, bugger by eleven am tomorrow. Do it right now. Why should they sign up Keep the Sheep dot com
dot au. If you love this show, you love this cause you love this bloke Tony, sign the petition. Why should they sign them?
Sign sign the petition? Do this because ultimately the future is traded. It sits on the prosperity of small business and agriculture. And at the moment we are copying our builting, inflation is being compensated for to a lot of way journeys. They do get wage increases, not as much as inflation, but they are being compensated for inflation. Prome producers are not. They're copying every part of what Infa she's doing to us and paying for the wage increases of everybody else.
The current situation we're see in right now, it's utterly untenable and a government needs to recognize that if they don't look after us, food security in Australia will ultimately come under risk, because we're not insecure now, but we may well in truly come to that point if our government doesn't recognize the fact that we're in town to tell them that they're doing the wrong thing and they need to brush their brains up and actually turn it around,
because where we are right now this is not tenable in the long term.
Greens came out today's surprise surprise against diesel fuel rebate. What would happen if the diesel fuel realbate was to disappear from your industry?
Well, this is a rotten thing that they're doing. The diesel fuel exercise was designed to provide the government money to repair the roads. You burn diesel on the road and you pay the excise and that's for the roads. It's never meant to be consolidated revenue. There's a lot of diesel being burned on farms and in mining, and it is outrageous to think that any government would consider
for one second to actually do this. The long term ramifications of that it will decrease the profitability of a north loot of mines and a huge number of farmers. As I said, it was designed to fix up the roads, and we're not doing down mister roads where we're burning diesel on our farms. This just shows how totally out of touch they are with the reality of running an economy, and especially an export economy.
You're a king, Thank you mate. Good on you for your passion, your laser like focus. May the efforts all go the way they should. All the best tomorrow Mane, Well we're gonna have a good day tomorrow.
Thank you very much.
Bluddy. Oh, I'll be cheering your Tony Sabrook. Keep the sheep dot com dot AU. Let's get it up over one hundred thousand so they don't have to worry about it by tomorrow morning. There's plenty of people watching. You've got the access, you've got the second screen. Use it right now. Keep the sheep dot com dot that's our show tonight. Thank you very much for watching Nigel Farage on the show tomorrow, and plenty more ahead as we get ready for that debate on Wednesday. Here's the Lake Debate