From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Happy Sunday and Happy King's Birthday anyway, public holidays for all. Enjoy it. Now, we've got lots to get to tonight. These are big shows when we know that you're able to watch the whole thing. Sleep in to morrow. Enjoy yourself. Now, let's start with the obvious. The Paris Climate Meeting was about setting targets for twenty thirty. Many of the Western countries decided to sign up to it as the beginning
of what ultimately became net zero by twenty thirty. Sorry, by twenty fifty. Now, twenty thirty wasn't meant to be that everyone would get everything done by then, but we would begin the process moving towards a reduction in carbon
But of course the deal is deeply flawed. Why because while Australia, say, is one percent of climate emissions, China is able to continue to pollute and say, double every single month the amount of pollution that they put into the atmosphere because they don't even have to register their target till twenty thirty, and that's the number that they
will start reducing by twenty sixty. They produce way more pollution than we do, but because we are of the western nations that must atone for the sins of the past, we had to cut compared to our two thousand and five levels. At the time, I didn't like the idea
of the Paris Accord. At the time, it seemed obvious that if China wasn't going to have to play by the same rules as the rest of the world, and they were creating way more problems the little old Australia, it seemed counterproductive that even if Australia did everything that the lefties won, we would be swamped within what a couple of weeks I think is what the IPA put out there. Within about sixteen days, I think it is that Australia would just be completely replaced in terms of
the emissions by what China is taking place. Now. I've had many elections since then and many positions on what people to believe is the absolute commitment that Australia should make. But the one thing that has changed since Anthony Abernezi became the Prime Minister wasn't just saying that we would have a forty three percent emissions reduction based off our two thousand and five levels. But it actually is the law in Australia. It's not just a vague commitment signed
on a piece of paper. It is something that has a law that has passed the Lower House and the Upper House. The consequences of not meeting those targets I don't know. I haven't read the law in full. But as you will have heard, the lefties are losing their mind because of an interpretation of a quote that Peter Dutton gave to a newspaper yesterday. Here's the outrage version. Dutton to pull Australia out of Paris Agreement if elected.
What he actually said to the Australian newspaper on Saturday is there's no sense in signing up to targets you don't have any prospect of achieving. That does not explicitly say that he wants to pull out of the Paris Accord. But I'll get to why he may be trying to think that that is an option that the Australian public
want to get to in a moment. But all the people who had to come out and support the suggestion at least that Paris may well be negotiable if there was to be a change of government next year was obvious. We begin with the NATS.
That's totally false to think that by us not meeting our twenty thirty target would see us kicked out of it. We are committed to our twenty fifty target. In fact, at the largest KOP meeting in the UAE, most countries will fall short of their twenty thirty target. So what we've said is, let's be honest, let's look at Shans in the eye and say not even this government's going to make their twenty thirty target because they can't get to eighty two percent renewables by twenty thirty.
There's not the supply chain to do it. Now. While the NATS went into the last election with a target on twenty fifty, and I know a lot of people have an opinion on that should be nez zero by twenty fifty, they never really supported the idea of the twenty thirty target, so any potential wiggle room to get out of that is something that they will support. Now, let's see what happens tomorrow when inevitably someone gets a microphone under Peter Duttons nos, so we can find out
exactly what the position is. But let's just continue with the theory that apparently the Libs are going to pull out of the Paris Agreement. Now, I think this is based off one big bet. If they are to pull out, the big bet is that Trump will win in November. Now, if Trump wins in November, there is every expectation that he would pull out of the Paris Climate Accord, as he did when he was president between twenty sixteen and
twenty twenty. Since twenty twenty, there has been an awful lot of targets that have been set by the Americans, but they are not the same legal target that passed our parliament. This is important to know because a president can change the direction of things as opposed to a series of things that have been set into law for
obvious reasons. People who believe that Australia's transition should be on the same timeline as a serious polluter like China, where we're talking more about twenty fifty and twenty sixty, not twenty thirty, would therefore see that a four year change in a presidency, which would go from twenty and twenty five to January twenty and twenty nine, would essentially mean that the twenty thirty target becomes irrelevant because the United States is a big economy, is a big polluter,
would of course be not operating under that system. Now that's what I think the bet is here. But you've already seen what the reaction from the Labor Party is. They are saying that it is a signed, sealed, absolutely announced policy. Now it may well be. I'll wait to hear from Peter Dutton in front of a camera or a microphone to actually hear whether that's their position or not. But Labour think they have already won the next election
based exclusively off this apparent change in policy. They were cockahooped today when talking about the idea.
If you're out of the Paris Accord, you with Libya, Yemen and Iran, and with all due respect to those countries, they are not great investment destinations. That Peter Dutton would put Australia in that company and take Australia away from the table when it comes to investment in renewable energy shows that he would be a worse Prime Minister for Climate and Energy than Tony Abbot and Scott Morrison.
Any Australian who thinks climate change is real would think now that Peter Dutton is a real risk, a risk to investment, a risk to jobs, but just a risk that Australia will do nothing to tackle climate change.
You know, even Tony.
Abbot didn't pull out of a global agreement on climate change and he thinks it's crap. You know, this makes Tony Abbot look like Al Gore.
Now again, this is part of an overall attempt to build a narrative, and I talk often about how it's narrative good guy's, bad guys, good things, bad things, as opposed to news, which is so, what did they say today? The narrative that Labor has been trying to build on Peter Dutton is that he would be the most extreme, the most trump like figure to ever assume the Prime ministership of Australia. Now, of course it's rubbish, and I deeply disagree with many of the narratives that are trying
to be built. But of course the general media ecosystem is more than happy to repeat that narrative because they like either the policies or they like the relationship that they have with the current government. But the question that makes me think, I'm not entirely sure that this is the all in new position of the coalition is that the coalition, of course, if it plans to get anywhere near government, needs to win seventy six seats in the Parliament.
They are nowhere near it. Now. This policy would of course mean that the Teal seats would be assumed to be gone and anything that could be kind of teely again would be traded away to the Teals because the suburbs have had enough of the cost of transition and all of the different policies that the Albanese government has put in place to get us to the twenty thirty target of forty three percent emissions production based off two
thousand and five. Now again, all of these commitments are dwarfed by everything China does, and China's two thousand and five doesn't come until two thousand and thirty. But have a look. These are the ten or so most vulnerable labor seats. Gilmore of course kind of near the south coast of New South Wales, Lions in Tasmania, Lingiari, which is in and around Alice Springs, bent Along, which is
in and around the ride area of Sydney. Higgins, which is currently a labor seat formerly a Liberal seat, may well be a target of the Teals, but that seat may well disappear because of redistribution, Robertson on the Central coast, Tangy in Western Australia, Boothby in South Australia, McEwan in Victoria, and Patterson, which of course is kind of near the
Hunter Valley in New South Wales. Now you could begin to build a picture somewhere that some parts of suburban Australia have said, we've had enough of paying for the transition. Therefore we don't care what the target is. Sure, let's do something in the effective political nevern ever of twenty fifty. But Labour thinks that if the government has as the opposition is going to commit to this change, then they're
probably not going to win any of those seats. In fact, they may will end up losing some of their own territory back to the Teals. Now, regardless of whether you like or don't like Peter Dunton, and I know that, of course most people watching this program would hope for him to be the next Prime Minister of Australia. I certainly support his candidacy. But he's a man who certainly knows politics. He was able to smell the wind on the Voice, and he came out as no when it
was sixty forty in the polls. Of course, the people ended up following his instinct. He was the one who said, I'm not going to go to the job summit. Remember the job Summit, And of course it turned out that the job Summit was just a giant cover for the Labor Party to eventually give unions everything that they wanted. So I'll be fascinated tonight to Nicole Flint. Nicole Flint is a great conservative, a person who probably like me, does not like the Paris Agreement. But she of course
is in one of those target ten. Does she think that it helps or hurts her? We will find out when she joins us in a few minutes time, But I want to wait till tomorrow, or maybe even Tuesday, if that's the back to work day, when we actually hear from Peter Dunton in his own words what the absolute policy is. Now, that's no suggestion that the reporting about it is false. It's not suggesting that he didn't
say what was said in the interviews. But I'm not going to interpret the interview through the lens of labor looking for what they believe is an automatic disqualification for the Coalition at the next election. Let's wait and see what the actual policy is and then we can debate whether it is a good or bad idea. Now Australia has put simply sent too many generations of people to university. They're particularly done so with things like communications or marketing
or arts. And I'm guilty that I'm one of the arts people. Sorry, but we have produced tens thousands of people with university degrees who either go on to not use the degree when it comes to the job, or the degree is not really relevant to a job that's available instead. Anyone who knows if you've asked anyone to come around and fix something at your house, if you really want to make some coin, now you want a tool belt, not the mortar board of which people graduate
at universities with. Because these are very good paying jobs. If you're able to stand yourself up as an ABN and then eventually a business that ends up doing more work. There's an awful lot of money for people who work with their hands, but there aren't enough tradees in Australia.
We have made a moral choice as a country that going to university is better than your kid going to Taife that somehow it's a cop out if your kid wants to look for a life in high views as opposed to backchatting their grandparents about how racist they are because you know boomers right. But there are people who believe that we have not got a problem at the moment with the number of trades around, and that would be the CFMU, who very politely say there's not a
problem with any trade shortage in Australia. Well as anyone knows. You want somebody to retail your bathroom, to fix your roof, to put a top on the house, you're not going to be able to get a tradee available to do it anytime soon. And of course the costs of it are all through the roof for a whole collection of reasons. But you know, inflation, it's not a real thing. Nothing to worry about here. All the stuff that doesn't get made here made in China. You know, nothing to see here.
But another apparent policy that the Coalition is going to take to the next election is a real winner, and it is to try to get back to the Howard era of things, where sure the state will pay for you to go to university and you can pay them back when you earn fifty grand. Good luck to you
if you want to go and study whatever. But by introducing kids at school to the joys of a trade could well be a way to make sure that kids make the choice to work with their hands rather than just to do year thirteen, fourteen and fifteen at school like sadly too many generations have now. Of course, the Left wants everyone to go to UNI because they all end up voting a certain way. There are the odd exceptions to the rule, but you get my point anyway.
The Coalition is apparently moving to revive a Howard Government era at skills in school policy to reverse flatlining trade apprenticeship completions, to encourage thousands of teenagers to attend technical colleges and fast track young Australians into jobs. There was a speech that was given on Friday to the Tertiary Education Council. Wow, what a fun night that would have been.
What a long weekend they've been having with a deputy Liberal leader apparently said on Friday that the new pathways are needed for young Australians outside of universities and TAFEs. Now Susan ly apparently has said that there will be around one point six million secondary students in Australia and only one percent, or some twenty thousand of them are involved in some sort of school based apprenticeship or traineeship.
This clearly should change. She also says about two hundred and forty three thousand students are doing vocational education in schools. The most popular skills are things like tourism, hospitality, sport, fitness and recreation, all things that again are not about
going and doing a university degree. You start to learn some of those skills at school, you learn them at a tafe, and then you get on with your job because of course, part of an apprenticeship is that they'll help pay for you to go to tafe, so you might work one or two days tafe one or two days. You get the idea. It's a smart idea and I hope they do do it because Australia does need many
more things than just more people going to university. Now, again, I will not hired from the fact that I went to university and it was a particularly wonderful intellectual experience, but it has nothing to do with a job I'm doing right now, and many of the people that I went to university with a long time ago now, but still again they didn't use what they learned at university. Many of them, of course, like myself, being able to
pay back the debt so it's all worked out. But Australians need, when we have our career conversations with little kids and with teenagers, to talk with aspiration about doing things with your hands or doing things that aren't necessarily connected to university. I've seen it in many families where you get to that point in time where a kid is sixteen, seventeen or maybe eighteen towards the end of school,
what do you want to do? I don't know. Well, make sure you apply for lots of different things at UNI. Why why should those people have to go into a process of year thirteen, fourteen fifteen at school when they don't have a particular intellectual want to go and study any of those things, and they end up with a
debt that eventually they will have to pay back. Whereas when it comes to a trade, yes there's some debt incurd along the way, but you actually start to earn money during the apprenticeship, let alone more money when you get to the end of it. Now on this program, we always say the Greens should go last. They are
the most destructive force in Australian politics. I disagree with almost everything that they stand for, the way they present themselves, and largely the sanctimity in which they wrap their dismissiveness of anyone who disagrees with them. They believe in things that would change this country, in my belief, for the absolute worst.
Now.
Of course, most recently many people have buckled at their position when it comes to the war in Gaza, the free free Palestine and the rivers of the sea, and the genocide and all the things that they've carried on within Parliament. But more importantly, remember people like Senator Marine Fruki have been photographed with people at protests who are holding up signs suggesting that the best place for the
Jews is the bin. That's not advocacy for the innocent victims of what is happening in Gaza, There's no question about it. That of course, is not a way of suggesting any support for Hamas. It's about a recognition about the civilians that are being killed there as a result of Israel's response to what I Must did in October
of last year. But Adam Dand of course is a man who will not be told no because he knows that the Labor Party needs the Greens and the Greens end up with more power when the Labor Party doesn't do the extreme things that the Greens want. The Greens sit at about ten percent in the polls, but that's enough to consistently get members of the Lower House elected
and consistently add more numbers to their representation in the Senate. Remember, the Labor Party is planning to rig the Senate to have even more senators from the Northern territory and the Act and particularly the Act most likely will result in more left wing MPs and yes, even more Greens senators.
They also know that if Labor goes new a minority, they will have absolute control over the Labor Party in the Lower House and of course the control they currently have in the Upper House because put simply without the Greens only does lay but not exist because of preferences. But of course laws can't pass the Parliament if the coalition says no to the ideas. Adam Bant today turned up at the regular protests which are in the name of the innocent victims of Palestine, but often end up
excusing the actions of hamas latest tactic points. Oh, it's all misinformation. You don't understand what we're actually doing.
Well, i'll tell you this.
People have been paying a lot of attention and people have not seen you do the things that other countries have done. And we are angry, or we are angry, but it's not just this. There's a whole collection of other things where the Greens are the weather. Greens are just too extreme, whether ideas cost too much money, and the idea that well, if you just keep shaking billionaires
eventually it'll pay for everything doesn't actually add up. These are people who want to introduce taxes on turnover, not profit, and anyone who runs a business knows there's a difference between the money that comes into the till and the money you have to take out of the till to pay for everything before you start to have money left over for profit. This weekend, former Prime Minister John Howard agreed with what I said last week, which is the
Greens have to go last. It is now a moral question. Now Labor must put them last, the Coalition must put them last. They are the worst option on the ballot. Now if there are particular extreme, even further extreme examples, well they're okay, you can put them last and then you get to the Greens. But certainly the Labour Party should be handing preferences to the Liberal Party before the Greens, and the Liberal parties should be handing preferences to the
Labor Party before the Greens. There are smart asses inside the Liberal Party who think, oh, give preferences to the Greens and then the Greens will win seats from Labor. Well, who does that help? Again, John Howard Today, he's called for Peter Dundon Anthony Alberneasy to adopt a common purpose and agree for the Liberal and Labour parties to put the Greens last on the how to vote cards because
of their divisive policies. Mister Howard told the Weekend Australian that if the Liberal and Labour Party joined forces to put the Greens last of the next election, they could reject an unacceptable element of Australian politics. The Greens are the real extremists of Australian politics. Now, of course Labor won't do it because, as I've told you, seventy seats of their seventy eight in the Parliament exist because of Green's preferences. But let's see, that's why I never believe
the fake fight. When the Greens pretend, when the Labour Party in this Prime minister pretends to have issues with the Greens, they truly have issues with the Greens. Put them last and wipe them out. There is a term you may have read somewhere. It is called fast fashion. This is stuff that is often sold directly on websites. Now this means it is pretty crappy stuff. It is made with particularly intensive issues when it comes to the environment.
But more importantly, many of these very cheap products that people purchase because yay, look at that on the internet. Bang, you can be here within two hours. Oh yay, let's do that. The problem is some of the stuff that is being sold in some of these places is believed to be being made by slave labor. There's yet another call for people to actually use their shopping dollar, but also governments to turn around and say you can't sell
stuff that's been made with slave labor. Low cost fashion brands are experiencing a boom in business as Australians look for cheaper consumer goods, but international organizations are warning companies may be cutting costs by using forced labor. Anti slavery groups have raised concerns about the practices of fast fashion retailers such as Shihin and Timu, calling for Australians to follow the leader of the United States and the European you need to ban imports of goods manufactured with poor
human rights practices. Well, I completely agree when it comes to fast fashion, But what about the stuff that would help the government achieve its legislative target of forty three percent emissions and a change in our energy grid. The reality is that there is plenty a slave labor that comes out of China. We know specifically about the wigas and what they are made to do. They work in areas of China that produce much of the world's solar panels. Now Australia at some point is going to try to
come up with an industry to make them here. But that's not going to happen at any scale anytime soon. So will anyone actually ask Anthony Albernizi, Adam Bant, Chris Bowen or anyone else who will spend the next couple of days talking about how the Liberal Party is going to tear up the Paris Agreement and say, just while we've got you, will you pass a law to guarantee that Australia will not import things made by slave labor,
principally in China. Now, of course, if we did that, the handsome boy might get a call from the real bosses in Beijing. But it would be an actual statement about what Australia truly stands for and what we're willing to not accept as a way of getting to the targets of forty three percent of one percent of the world's climate emissions, while China can do whatever it wants
between now and twenty thirty. Now, a couple of things I want to mention about cost of living for you tonight, because the Bureau Statistics scaves a very interesting insight into, surprise, surprise, even more money that you have been spending on things in the past twelve months. Now. Of course, the Prime Minister and the treasure had nothing to see here. We're running the economy great, everything's awesome, we get gold stars,
blah blah blah. Well, the ADA shows us that household spending on health in particular is up fifteen percent, i e. The cost of the amount of money that you are spending on health has gone up, not because you're using more of the health system, it's just access to anything that sits into that bracket of health has gone up way more than average inflation. Perfect example of all of this is that as you can see, food has gone up in the past twelve months. Furnishings have gone up
by almost seven percent in the past twelve months. The amount you're spending on transport, that's because of petrol, but they won't cut petrol taxes, and of course things like health, but you can see everything costs more. Yet another example off the government saying one thing while you are forced to do another and shut up and pay now. I meant to get to this last week, but in box does get pretty full with what's going on. So this public holiday Sunday get the chance to recognize a state
government that did something really important. Chrismins gave a formal apology on the behalf of the New South Wales government for ever having laws that criminalized homosexuality. I think this is a really important thing because those laws never should have existed, the people who got punished under them never should have been punished, and there are still people to this day, who of course lived with the trauma of either being directly affected by those laws or knowing people
who were directly affected. So I wanted to give him the moment in the sun here that this is a country that not only is able to be aware of the mistakes that it's made in the past, but push those mistakes out of the way, but also to try to heal some of those mistakes. We do have these little moments of public apologies. This was Chris Men's doing that in the Parliament in New South Wales last week.
Forty years ago, the New South Wales ended the legal criminalization of homosexuality in this state. And here today as a parliament and as a state, as people who want to make good, were he to apologize for every life that was damaged or diminished or destroyed by these unjust laws.
Good, excellent. The reaction to it was pretty obvious.
It's wonderful. I think we're very lucky. We deserve it. It's just a shame we're the last state to have it. But I won't get negative. But yeah, no, it's a great it's very we're very happy.
Now let's talk about Trump and what's been happening. In the United States, because there's plenty to talk about right now, including as we know, Donald Trumps been found guilty thirty four different charges. Will he or when he go to jail. We'll all find out four days before the Republican Convention next month. But if he does go to jail, as I've told you before, he won't have a cell mate. He of course will end up with a secret service on the outside the doors. He won't be like a
normal prisoner. He will be bored, silly, but he will be quite uncole safe from the average prisoner experience. But some lefties would prefer that he had the normal experience behind jail, and I think this is gross.
And luck with all the talk now about Trump possibly going to jail, we've all been doing it.
I mean, come on and start on Trump.
Given the opportunity, it's natural to want to imagine him getting.
Really Now, do I think you should be canceled?
No?
Do I think you show should disappear?
No.
But the idea of that level of Trump arrangement syndrome that even somebody you'd dislike, for what particular political reason, you think they should be sexually assaulted, Come on, that is the ultimate version of this week's expression of Trump derangement syndrome disgraceful. Now this weekend, the former president has held rallies in Arizona and in Nevada too, swing states. He absolutely needs to win. And I'll tell you in
the second how the polls are starting to look. Remember the fifty states, there are only seven that generally change hands, and I'll tell you how he's going with those seven. But there's some surprising people that are coming out and are now endorsing Donald Trump. Rapper fifty cent has decided to come out and say he's going to back Trump. I think she's technically a model, but there's a shir
called Amber Rose Google quite popular apparently. Anyway, she interestingly said this to TMZ because it speaks to many people. Apparently in the African African American community. You have said, you know what, just because I'm black, I don't have to vote for Joe Biden.
Does him getting convicted like change the way you know him?
Not at all?
I mean, do you think you'll all this chance is like getting like re elected or like you'll I think.
It helps him more?
Oh it actually?
Yeah, absolutely, I think people see the injustice and what happened, and they want to work with him more than ever.
I know, I wanted to ask you, so it seems like a lot of celebrities are kind of like voting for Trump.
Now, I mean, why do you think people are kind of like shading their way of Like I think we're just we just did our research and we're just you know, we're not greenwashed anymore by the left.
Don't you love the friend just vaping? Just you know whatever. Continue on meantime, latest poles, let's have a look at this here, So about the swing states that matter. One of those swing states is Florida. Now, Florida's kind of in a red state presidentially for some time. But remember it was a place that I told you before. Some of their abortion laws may end up flipping it back towards the Blue team. Guess what, No not going to happen.
Why because fifty percent of people say that the matter involving him being found guilty doesn't really change their opinion at all when it comes to how they're going to vote, and how they're going to vote is forty seven percent for Trump, forty percent for Biden. And based off every pole that I've seen, if anyone wants to tell you that Robert F. Kennedy Junior takes votes away from Donald Trump.
They're not paying attention currently. It seems they're coming straight off the Democrat Which means, as for those seven states that actually matter, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Nevada, Trump is leading everywhere. Wisconsin, let's call that a statistical tie. Let's say the same about Michigan. Well, if he was able to win everything that's pretty big on this list, like Nevada, North Carolina, Arizona, or Georgia,
he'd win the presidency. He'd be pretty safe once you start to get into places like Pennsylvania. But I don't know whether that's going to be the case or not. Anyway, we follow the data, we have the opinions as well. James Ashby, Nicole Flint for the rest of the hour, Let's continue this Sunday night by chatting to our mates about things that matter and having a giggle along the way. I'm glad you're with us, Thanks so much for watching. How's this for somebodies on a Sunday night? Note other
than our dear friends. James Ashby is running for the seat of Keppel for one Nation in the upcoming Queensland election. Go boy go, and running of course for the seat of boothby double her Israeli flag pins. This evening is none other than the wonderful Nicole Flint. You're all inmate, how are you?
I'm very well.
I thought we should just acknowledge the wonderful news that four hostages have been rescued, which is quite incredible after such a period of time.
Bloody oath, bloody oath. All right, let's talk about the apparent change of the coalition's position when it comes to the Paris Agreement. James, I'll start with you again. I'm going to wait and see. I don't want I'm not going to rely on the Greens interpretation of a couple of lines in an interview. I'm going to wait for whatever an announcement might be. I think that many people watching right now would say, yeah, tear the damn thing up.
But what do you think the political consequence of it is?
Well, Peter Dutton's got the right approach here. Finally I can actually say I can see something that Peter Dutton stands for. He's taken a very strong and principled approach here we know that we're not going to meet these targets that have been set by his predecess of the past. Both Scott, Morrison, Turnbull and Abbott have all played a role, and of course signing us up to the Paris Agreement. The problem that a lot of people at home probably
don't realize every country's Paris Agreement is different. So Australias is completely different in New Zealand, it's completely different to Canada and every other country across the globe. So we've signed up one of the worst. What I wish that Peter Dutton would come out and say in the next few days is he's just completely out of the UN altogether, let alone just the Paris Agreement. Say look, it's a great first move. I think he's on the right path.
He may not have said those words exactly, but I think he's certainly singing the right sound and I can certainly back that. One nation can certainly back it.
Yeah, Nicole, I mentioned you and Boothby is one of the ten seats that are the most vulnerable for labor right now. Would getting out of the Paris Accord help or hurt when you are talking to the people that you need to change their mind to go back to the Liberal Party after they went to the Labor Party at the last one.
Well, the question here is actually how on earth are Labor planning to meet their target because Chris Bowen really can't tell us which industries are going to suffer. Is he going to inflict more pain on farmers? Is he going to shut down manufacturing? Is he going to stop exporting coal to China? We've just seen something like record exports of coal to China which support twenty five thousand
jobs in New South Wales alone. We've seen recently Labor come out and say, oh look no, we acknowledge that actually we're going to need gas into the future if
we want to guarantee baseload power supply. So the people who have the most questions to answer here are the Labor Party, the Coalition, and Peter Dutton and Ted O'Brien, to their great credit, have said we need to have a very serious conversation about nuclear because if we want to meet twenty fifty targets, then nuclear has to be part of that solution to getting to net zero by
twenty fifty. So I think what we're saying and very responsible and very honest statements from Peter Dutton as opposed to the creative fantasies that we keep hearing from people like Chris Bowen as to how they think that they are going to get to these targets by twenty thirty.
See, I'm with you about how there are big questions about how we get twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, those three years which would be the three that are up for debate at the next federal election. How they are going to supercharge now for one of a better thing. The easy options have all been taken, right, But of course emissions aren't just about the electricity grid. It's about everything from transport to you name it, right agriculture, and
this government would clearly start to supercharge after that next election. Now, obviously, James, this is a thing that people in the suburbs. Again, I don't know how. We'll all wait and see how this debate runs and who ends up winning and whether the cost of insert change will be enough for people to change their minds. But labor people were saying today that they basically believe, you know, this thing is settled.
Policy game over once you fiddle with this, you know, it's like trying to cancel a school day or something. It's some sort of great change that the Australian people will not accept. Why would you disagree with their spin?
Well, Peter Dutton has more than just the Labor Party to contend with.
He's also got his state counterparts.
And here in Queensland, David Chris fully who's the state leader of the LMP, here back labor legislation to lock in net zero by twenty fifty and we're still by twenty thirty five, not carbon emissions down by seventy five percent. That's been legislated by someone within his own state Liberal National Party. So Peter's not only got challenges from the Opposition and the Greens when he returns to the Lower House, but he's also got those problems within his own state.
David Christi fully doesn't support nuclear here for Queensland. Again, another challenge that Peter Dutton's got to face.
So he's going to have a bit of competition here from those within his own ranks. But I say to Peter, put on a brave face, have the argument with your own people and have it with the rest of the country, because we can't continue paying three hundred thousand dollars in compensation to farmers per kilometer for these new high transmission cables that have got to go across farms.
Can't happen.
I'm sorry with you, so with you all right. Peter Costello decided to stand down as a boss of Channel nine today or would I stay the nine entertainment group because they have radio and newspapers and lots of other stuff. He says that he was apparently planning to do this, but he was going to wait till the free tickets after the Paris Olympics. He's been around as the boss of the Joy since twenty sixteen, when, of course it was just the TV station. He added radio and the
newspapers as well on top of all of that. But we of course know why it has become what it has become. After the moment at Canberra Airport involving the Australian Reporter on Thursday. Now, remember he said there was nothing to see here. He said there'd be no change to his chairmanship. Well, when you're announcing that you're quitting, as Joe Hildebrand said on a Sunday in the middle
of a three day public holiday, it probably wasn't your choice, Nicole. Again, you know him as a political figure, But does it make obvious sense that the line ran out and he decided to go before he was planning to go if he wasn't pushed.
Look, anytime the media or a METEA organization become the story rather than reporting the stories, clearly some changes need to need.
To be made.
And look, I just think this is all terribly disappointing to see Peter Costello, who is one of the greatest treasurers that our nation has ever seen, an incredible contributor to the Liberal Party. Obviously, to leave his role in such circumstances is really disappointing. And look, I hope they get to the bottom of what happened to the reporter at the airport, because everyone deserves to be safe and
respected when they're doing their job. You know, I'm not suggesting what did or didn't happen, because clearly we weren't there and we don't know. So I hope that is resolved in due course. But I don't see that mister Costello had any choice but to probably step down as he has.
Look, they might lose my bags for saying this, but jeez, Canberra Airport apparently must work public service hours. Has no one got access to the CCTV. They could have pulled it out on Friday and just shown us what was going on, but of course they haven't. And I do find what I found particularly interesting about all of this, James, was you had s pockets of media world who kind of wouldn't really talk about it because there was you know,
people from one newspaper and all of this stuff. Right, But now it's a scenario where clearly it's been ruled the wrong. Look all the rest of the time to get out of the way. What do you think.
I'm just spiwn this didn't happen on Tuesday.
I had it marked in my calendar to buy Channel nine shares on Tuesday because I could see this was coming.
It was just he did it too early. I'm so upset.
I reckon there's a twenty percent jump coming Wednesday, Paul, or at least Tuesday.
Anyway.
Well, look he's been under pressure for a few days. Ever since James Packers sort of called him out. There has been problems at Channel nine. Look what happened at the airport. You could tell he was under immense pressure. He snapped it was always going to wind this way?
Sadly?
Can I ask both of you unrelated to this one, right, but both of you have had the cameras in your face, both of you have had the people chasing you because they didn't like whatever your response was to whatever. I just want to ask, as people, how do you handle that? I mean, how do you handle when they're maybe outside your house, like it's not a press conference, there's sort of nowhere to go again, James, do you give them
what they want because then they go away? Or do you play a different game, like what do you do when they're for whatever reason, you're the story and the people who hate you the most won't leave you alone until you cry tears of sorry.
I'm the worst one to ask here.
I made the same mistake as Peter Costill I did in my in the in the start of my career. I grabbed the journal as fine and through it. So I'm not the one to ask you. I have learned over time, right, Nicole, You've had yeah?
I mean, if you've ever plenty of pressure in certainly political thugs and disgraceful behavior come your way. But but what do you do when for whatever reason, you're the story. Do you do? You do? You just try to jump on the radio as soon as possible so then the hamers don't turn out. But we kind of live in this world now where I always love in Parliament House. So if somebody comes and does like an interview on Sky News in the morning, clearly they've said something. It's
out there. Everyone can take the tape and show it on their news. But because they don't want to show the little logo of the TV station that's not theirs, they all run and talk to you in the hallway outside the studio where you've just given the interview. So what do you do?
Well, stay away from the press gallery, I guess if you're in Parliament House because there are very strict rules about where they are and aren't allowed to film you in Parliament for good reason.
That's right.
But look, Paul, I mean I think this sort of works both ways. Look, I can say during twenty nineteen it was pretty ugly in terms of me being chased around by camera cruise, especially when you've got the full press pack. That can be quite challenging, but they're sh In an ideal world there would be a line, especially when it.
Involves people homes.
But we see it time and time again where the press do turn up where you know, in a perfect world they shouldn't be. Keep it to people's workplaces, keep it to I guess, the public realm.
But I'm with you. I'm with you.
I always try and stay calm and polite and say you give them a few lines and then hope that you're allowed to move on with your day and doing your job.
Bloody aeth. All right, let's talk about a whole bunch of stuff, including bold predictions for the weekend in a moment or tuesd time here on Paul Marriray Life. Thanks so watching us this Sunday night. Of course we'll be here Holiday Monday or not Holiday Monday, of course in the act, because you had reconciliation a couple of weeks ago. And I don't know if it's a pup a holiday in Tasmoni because you had recreation. But that was just for the south of the country, of the state, not
the top, because that's regarded cinema. My two mates are here play to get to including a bold prediction for the week ahead Royal report less than ten minutes away from now James Ashby, of course, who is running for the seat of Keppel in the Queensland Parliament. Get rid of that government. Please get rid of the government. Please get rid of that government. Of course he's there under the one Nation banner and the lovely NI Cooflin is
under liberal banner. Please get rid of the Labor Party. Please. You get the point. And they said that booth me you back them and backed them good and hard between now and their respective elections. So I mentioned before latest polls and more polls showing us that post conviction, nothing's really changed when it comes to Trump. Now, Nicola will start with you, why do you think the needle doesn't move? Now? I understand why Republicans won't move. Like the hard course,
they're all in. It doesn't matter. Literally the Fifth Avenue thing was true, doesn't matter. But we kept being told on you know, the independence they might not back a guy who's been convicted, and suburban women might, but nothing's moved.
Why Because I think the more that the Democrats attack Donald Trump, the more it annoys people. For some reason they seem to be it seems to help him. Every single time they launch another co case or you know, run another nasty story in the media. It seems to just help him and strengthen him further. I don't know why. I can't explain I can't explain it, but it's actually it's backfiring. Whatever the Democrats are trying to do or
anyone else is trying to do, it backfires. Maybe because people love to see a batler and a fighter, and that's certainly what Donald Trump is.
I think there is a boy who Cried Wolf kind of element about it too. I mean, the Democrats have been at eleven since twenty fifteen, right, and they've just they've broken the button trying to get it to twelve and thirteen and threat to democracy. And if you compare this and you compare that, he's hitler, and I just don't think that normal people, certainly in those swing states care.
I think that American politics in particular is about reject the guy who's currently there because nothing ever gets better, and currently that works for Trump as opposed to in twenty twenty when he had to defend a record.
What do you think, James, Well, the other fact is that the president can't hide this election because last time, you know, we were sort of coming out of that COVID period.
They locked him away.
He resolved in the Crepid then, and that was the excuse was COVID might get him and kill him. Well, as president, no COVID anymore. He's out there for the public to judge him every single time he gets in front of a microphone, and some of the things that are coming out of his mouth at the moment just.
Don't make sense.
He's still continuing to trip over, he falls asleep in meetings. More and more people are talking about the fact that when they meet with him, he's not cognitive. So when you've got only two choices, Donald Trump is by far the best choice at this upcoming election.
I do want to get to the predictions, but before then, the Queensland budget is literally going from surplus to deficit as they try to buy their way to another election. The South Australian government has just found a fistful of money to throw at people to help with the cost of living. But it definitely won't be inflation. Ring to both of you, the concept of buying all right, Sometimes
it can seem skillful, sometimes it just seems desperate. Queenslanders must be so burning with rage, James that they are just you're seeing it up against the wall and it won't change anything that's going to happen in late October.
Yeah, Miles is like a lotto winner.
You often hear about these people that win huge amounts of money and within a couple of years they're broke because they've never known how to manage money to start with, they've never made it themselves, so therefore they burn a hole.
In their pocket just spending it.
And see, we've had a huge amount of benefit from increases to stamp duties because property price has gone through the roof. Insurance properties have gone through the roof, so both of those have got massive amounts of stamp duty attached. They've got a living hell out of our mining companies here in Queensland, so they've got fifteen billion dollars to spend their of extra royalties. But what have we got for it, Well, we've got more potholes in the road.
I've got another chip in the winds in over the weekend. And just because he's going to drop twenty percent off the rate of registration means we're also probably going to see a drop in road works that are done to try and improve our states.
So it's not going to work. Of course, people are going.
To take the discounts and the handouts, but at the end of the day, are they going to vote for him?
I hope, like hell they don't.
Yeah, I agree. I got about twenty seconds, Nicole. So your version about what they're doing INESSA, Oh well.
Look it's exactly the same. And giving us a couple of hundred dollars off your power bill. Well, power prices haven't gone down, and so getting back to you know, Chris Bowen's emissions target and things like that, power prices keep going up, they will continue to and giving us hard paid tax dollars back is ridiculous when the actual price of power isn't going down.
I'm with you, perfectly timed. Thank you so much. You can host the show anytime you want to, Goal James, you can co host too, Why not. It's one of those shows. Anyway. My plan is to be back tomorrow night, though, so I'll be hosting All Murray Life. I have a great night, h