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Paul Murray Live | 9 June

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Liberal Party considers legal action over Gisele Kapterian’s narrow Bradfield loss, Aussies faking sick days cost billions. Plus, immigration raids in LA ignite mass protests.

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Speaker 1

From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Sherry, thank you to James Morrow for holding the fort for a couple of days. I had that extra long weekend, all right, the days off finish.

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Now.

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I tried to run and take one week off post election, and you know there's a big run before that, a couple of sneaky Thursdays, the odds Sunday. Anyway, back on deck and all guns blazing. All right, let's get into a lot tonight, including Yeah, I'll get all the stuff you expect me to talk about, including some stuff you haven't heard that's taken place over the past few days. But breaking news is cold in winter, but it's particularly

cold at the start of this winter. Now, yes, everyone else can run off and say why they think it's the case, and why everyone needs to have more renewable power whatever, boring the stuff that's been beautiful to have a lookout, and I hope nobody's been caught up in this in the negative side. If you're watching us in the central west of New South Wales, remember we did an outown from Orange a few weeks ago. Well, the

snow is falling there. All it's good if like mine, my kids have never seen snow, so if you get a bit of pre warning of this stuff, go and check out regional parts of Australia which might at little dusting here or there. However, there were some other issues including what about it in and around Mount Howtham. Wow, not just cold but a snow dump. People who ended up well, hikers got caught and a whole bunch of people ended up spending last night in that weather in

their cars. Well done to the Victorian Sees, the Nissowales Police and all of the local officials in and around places like Hawtham, Threadbow and all the rest of it that had to go and get people in the middle of those snowstorms. Not stuff we expect in Australia, but it is something that becomes very usual. And now there's more cameraphones than ever before, so we know about every little thing that happened, including what a way to spend part of the King's Birthday long weekend.

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The road was actually closed and there were signs and barricades up, but the physical gate hadn't been locked yet for the winter that was due to happen this Thursday.

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And we did what we could have had weekend which was putting out the signage, not defying people. But that process to formally close the road takes a number of days. We've got to get the agreement of vic pol Parksvick and Deeca. They've got to basically satisfy themselves that we're not locking people into the park.

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So, as always, the paperwork's fault. Now, the weather did extend pretty cold morning in the southeast of Queensland all the way through to parts of Victoria again start of winter, surprise, surprise, but still it's worth learning exactly why this little snap is happening right now. And of course Sky News I say, twenty four hour Weather Service.

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It's been very cold throughout the southeast over the past few days and of course rather windy with plenty of wet weather all floating about.

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Now.

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That's on account of this low which is continuing to hover off the east coast of New South Wales, really stirring up a little bit of trouble.

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Now, little bit of good news, not enough to say that it is a drought broken. But where it wasn't snow, there was rain, and there was a lot of rain that made it into regional Victoria in the past couple of days, like thirty mils in some parts. I was noticing some people on social media saying that it was even a whole lot more than that. So thankfully some just some of the areas that have been drought affected of recent times, and we know that they have not

been getting the support that they needed. The local communities have been blowing up about that. We're going to keep talking about it. But a little bit of rain again, sky On is weather with some good news of follow up again. This never happens on the news, does it. They tell you what's going wrong with they never tell you the follow up with. He's a follow up, a little bit of rain to those who need it most.

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Into South Australia and this is a location that has had some pretty decent totals over the past week or so, and that's of course much welcome given all the drought effective regions that have been just missing out constantly for the past few months.

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All right to politics now, and the final seat was awarded of the federal election. Yes, many weeks ago. It feels like months ago, but it of course was just weeks ago. And it's the teal who gets the final seat, winning by just a bare few eyes and she going to love her time on Radio National. The Teal wins Bradfield won that the Liberal Party at held for the best part of seventy years. She didn't win it buy

a lot. It had required a recount and a lot of pushing back and forth on how those votes were being encountered, but the margin was about as fin as you can get.

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The electorate of Bradfield came down to just twenty six votes. The Electoral Commission declared Independent Nicola Buller the winner by just twenty six votes.

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Now, as for the Liberal Party, despite the fact that the person who was in front at one point in time and then ended up losing the seat was actually named in the Shadow Ministry, that was a silly call. There's a chance this might go off to court. Most likely nothing will change. Teal wins the seat. Why am I talking about this week's after the election, because there's two groups of people who just deserve a real thank

you for delivering us another Teal. We thought that we were one down when it came to Zoe Daniel, while we get one back now in the case of this new person representing the seat of Bradfield. This is the votes and in terms of the first preference votes, the person who has been elected to Parliament as the Member for Bradfield got, as you can see, about a quarter

of the vote. A quarter of the vote. Yet the way the preference system works, and of course generally speaking, when you're running against a Liberal, all bar one or two are preferencing against you. Hence why we get where we were going. But there are two groups in particular that the teal should be there very thankful for, and we should never forget the extra teal that will be brought to Australian politics with a margin of twenty six votes,

was preferenced by the trumpet of patriots. Remember the people who said we've got to have trumpier politics. While they decided to preference the teal before the Liberal, they got the best part of a one thousand votes in the seat. So even if twenty six people decided to follow that how to Vote card, thank you so much. So every time we get the teal and we see this ticular teal on television and we'll be told how to live our lives by this teal, thank you so much to

the how to Vote card. Of the trumpet of patriots. Also, a guy that not many people even in the electorate have heard of, played quite a significant role. This bloke apparently was a former Liberal member, as in a paid up and proud member of the Liberal Party, and he decided to run as it independent, resigning from the party. On the day or day before or think of the election being called, he put out his how to vote card where guess what the number one person who got

his preferences was the Labor Party. Labor Party at number two, the former Liberal member who was a Liberal member apparently the start of this year, handed in his gun and badge who run as it independent and hand four thousand votes, some of them when it comes to preferences, first to Labor and then eventually to the Teal. His explanation as to why we will now have another teal, remember up and proud member of the Liberal Party, was this.

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Pointing Labor number two is a strong sign that I'm not going to support Peter Dunnet in the leadership. But the reason I've put at Labor second is to send a strong message criticism on the current leader of the Liberal Party, which is Peter Dutton. So a lot of Chinese Australians have been let down and disappointed by the remarks that Peter Dutton.

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Has made in the past.

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He served as the Minister of Defense during twenty twenty one and he was someone that emphasized that Australia should prepare for war and he wasn't able to depreciate between China, which is Beijing CCP and the local Chinese community, and that has unfortunately disappointed a lot of Chinese Australians who have been running small businesses here for a very long time, who raise a family here, who have been paying taxes.

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Nothing to see between them about five thousand votes. The preferences of the trumpeter patriots and the bloke who would paid up in proud form a Liberal member is why we now have thank you so much to both of you. Honestly, thank you so much. Australia forever be thankful now, as

we know an awful lot of people are well. Many may be working a second job with us blaring away on the TV or Sky News radio in the background, or maybe check us out on sky News dot com and all of the other ways that there are to watch this program, both live, the apps and all the rest of it. Well, today we learn about just how many people are working more than one job. Now, let me translate six and a half percent of people into

how many people in Australia more than one job? Basically a million people, nine hundred and sixty three thousand people in Australia have more than one job. Well, of course, Paul, that's just young people that might have one or two jobs so they can make their way through university. Not really, there is a big difference between men and women in terms of who has a second job. This is the cast of characters, and by that I mean people with more than one job. It's been playing out since March

twenty twenty. Basically, the darker red line is female workers. There are more of them that have more than one job. Now, interestingly, when it comes to age groups, yes there are more young people and those are the blue lines, regardless of whether we're talking about June, September, December or March. Quarters that basically, from left to right, the left is the light blue all the way through to gray, which is

the oldest of workers. But you can see consistently what that picture is, and certainly a big spike of it in and around September of last year. But again, oh well, Paul, isn't this just people that are working your two jobs? Maybe mackers and they've got a side hustle. Well, No, of the nine hundred and sixty three thousand people who have more than one job, guess what the number one industry is that those people have more than one job in. It is not fast food retail, It is not delivering meals.

It is in actual fact, health care, healthcare and social assistance. One hundred and ninety one thousand of the nine hundred and sixty thousand are in that particular area. Again, multiple jobs. It's double the amount, give or take, that are there in the retail sector. So more women those particular jobs. Yes, younger, but still plenty of people all the way through too close to retirement age working more than one job to make their way through what, of course, is an economy

that's turned a corner. Amazingly the election result that didn't seem to matter, that people were working two jobs in highly professionalized areas in order to make ends meet, And there were many fascinating things. As always, when you get a couple of days off, you get the chance to read and listen to when you're not having to prepare the daily show, which of course central joy of my

professional life. But Nick cat, who's of course the boss of the Mensies Research Center, he wrote an absolutely fascinating argument trying to get him on the show in the next couple of days in The Australian Today. Because you know how we always talking about the generational divide and generation wars and all the rest of it. Well, in part, he's wanting us to focus on the youngest of voters

because they have grown up in pretty terrible times. In fact, many people who might be on the center or setter right of Australian politics believe that regardless of what side of politics is in power, we're sort of managing the decline. And some people believe the difference between Team Red and Team Blue is just how slow we go down the hill. Well, this is something that Nick expands a little more on. And for those who want to just dismiss all issues

of young people, who cares? Isn't that triple j isn't that a thing for TikTok? Guess what they vote and they will replace the people who will no longer vote. That's just the way life works, Okay, let's read what Nick had to say. Entery adult is no longer a wonderful moment as it once was, the gateway to independence,

charged with the thrill of possibility. It's easy to mock Generation z's TikTok videos and Instagram loops as they stare into their front facing camera of history and lament the hardship of growing up amid historic prosperity in an exceptionally peaceful and affluent country. But here's where it gets to the big point. Today's young adults grew up under a cloud of catastrophism and the normalization of decline. So think

about that in terms of the catastrophism right now. Easy part to say is, well, that's the climate change climate catastrophism right well. Also, as he makes the point in the article, don't forget these were the people who may well have either been pulled out of the final years of school, or the first years of university, or the first years of working, all to do with the overreaction when it came to matters to do with, let alone,

the catastrophization. You will never own a house, You will never earn enough money to be able to build a life for yourself. On top of seeing, yes, the country that any of us that were lucky enough to be alive in the early two thousands, the nineties, the eighties, or previous decades before that, when in many ways you could fight your way from the bottom to the middle, and if you're particularly lucky, you could make it all

the way towards the tippy top. But that is harder than ever before for a whole bunch of reasons, fair and unfair, which gets to the final point that Nick makes. This is the reason I want to interview him on the show in the next couple of days. Right, this is how economic and moral declinism begins. Self reliance is no longer a virtue but a fiscal inconvenience. He's talking about how our modern politics now is all about the government.

Remember that triangle of dependency I've talked about lot, where you're either working for the government or you've got to hand out from the government or your business, your beaus

client as the government. What he goes on to say, we are passed beyond the Nani state to something far more insidious, their helicopter state, where the government hovers, micromanagers and intervenes not just to protect but to preempt and infantilizes Generation Z has grown up in a world of regulated choices, apparently incapable of navigating life without ministerial intervention.

Well said Nick, again, I know if he's in lots of different places, and I won't take him away from any other the commitments that he has two other programs. But I look forward to a conversation about this because

this is big boy pad stuff. This is a serious conversation about the future of our country, about how the center right can reach out to say there is a different way, There is a different way where you can be in charge of your future, where you if you back yourself, if you take risk, then the reward can be way bigger than what you are risking, because we

all know that is missing. But also we can't pretend that there's not a whole bunch of young people who've got lots of great ideas about how they want to build a future for themselves. And yes, that might be an app on a device which you and I might not be using, but they're going to make a huge chunk of change out of it. Equally, so kids in year ten right now should be actively told that there

are two doors you can go through. Yes, you can go to university and all the rest of it and become a good little Greens believer, but you can also go through this door and become a tradee and in more money than any philosophy degree will ever get you. That's part of talking about that self reliance, because yes, it's a long hard road if you're an apprentice to then to be able to stand on your own two food. But anyone who knows anyone I was talking to a

chippy this weekend. Their plan is to eventually get the ABN to be able to go off, have a few blokes and the sheelers working for them all right, and to be able to go often build a business. That's the path. So there is a role for all of us to play in inspiring not shitcanning, but inspiring the

next generation of voters because it currently sits. There is no way that they're going to be voting the way that we do, and the way not to have the conversation so they vote that way, but just to have the conversation so everyone can start understanding each other, so you can show them the story of your own life or your parent's life. Because again I was thinking a lot about this over the weekend, where I am of that generation that still is impressed by what their parents did,

who is impressed by what their grandparents did. And that's not to say that somebody who's thirty or twenty five doesn't admire their parents or grandparents. But I admire the war service of my grandparents. I admire the home front of their families left behind. I admire the open fields that turned into quartuacre blocks and suburbia that organized itself around a sense of values and to have a country that many many people have joined since. But people who

buy into how good is this joint? Not how good is this joint? Now, let's turn it into some other joint. And for Gen X's we're sort of court sometimes between what we keep being told is the fashionable future and the honoring of our parents who work so hard, of course in the seventies and eighties and nineties, So that's

where I'm coming from. Had this whole thing planned about whether I get into the meaning of what I try to bring to the show each and every night, but maybe we'll tease that out over the next few days. But part of that conversation is going to be a chat with Nick, because I think there's something in this for all of us, not just political, but about an understanding, because I'm done with the generation wars, right, I'm done with young people blaming old people and old people just

ignoring young people. Okay, I get it. Sometimes both are

going to annoy each other. And as Grandpa Simpson so spectacularly said, when Homer Simpson was coming to the Forge and he was starting to be the one in the family that was more culturally, you know, right on man, which is I used to be cool, and then they changed what cool was, and now what's cool is weird and scary, as it was for grandparents parents in my case, gen X and many of the wonderful, inspirational young people who we work with on this show each and every day.

And I know many young people watching us, including two very beautiful little one was barely a teenager when he's going to be a teenager in a couple of years. Lots of young people come up to me when we do the shows, particularly in regional areas, and there are literally people as have said, Hey, we've watched you every day of our lives. We've been around for fifteen years. You guys matter the most, right because it's really important that we keep living our lives and getting involved in

the conversations. But you're the ones they're going to take the joint, hopefully in a better direction than any of us could dream of. So if you are a young person watching us for the first time or for the seven thousandth time, thank you. I really appreciate it, honestly

I do. And to the parents who made them watch all right, now, let's talk about the honors system because guess what I'm going to say exactly what I say around the Australia Day Honors, around the Queen's Birthday honors, and every time this stuff happens, right, congratulations to everyone who got one. But the system is broken. Why because people like the former boss of the Business Lobby Group they got one, as you know, broadcasters like the guy who used to wear black on the ABC, he got one.

And even the person in charge of the Australian Electoral Commission got one. Now I am not having a crack at anyone who is like a volunteer organization. You deserve this moment in the sun. But the boss of the AEC, and yes, Scott Morrison, is the most recent former prime minister to receive the recognition, exactly the same as Kevin Right, exactly the same as Julie Gillard, exactly the same as

every prime minister has ever thus got. But of course, because it's Scott Morrison, well we all know some of the reaction that was going to be to all of this. Firstly, here is the former prime minister speaking about being honored by his country on this day.

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I'm very humbled by the recognition and thankful to the Australian people who gave me the opportunity to serve as Prime Minister during one of the most difficult periods in Australia's history.

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I like him, always have, always will, regardless of electoral results, and regardless of how culture moves with or against you. I think he's a very decent man, and all the best to his wife Jenny, and these beautiful girls as well. It's a wonderful honor, but of course because it's Scott Morrison, Oh, the left will not accept it. The entire system needs to be changed. And somebody decided to write this little piece in the Channel on newspapers today, Jenna Price honoring

Scott Morrison makes a mockery of our award Fifthdom. News of Grison's honor devastated me. I've been writing about the honors blah blah blah since a long time, when she was a young reporter. I've written about the good ones, the bad ones. I've endlessly written about the disproportionate number of men, the disproportionate number from wealthy postcodes, the fact that some of our most brilliant First nation citizens are

left off the list. I've berated the number of people that get these awards, but the award to Scott Morrison is absolutely takes the cake for poor judgment and bad timing. Well, it is twelve months since perhaps the worst example of somebody getting a little gold medal for their time in public service was first announced, the former Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews, particularly insulting he got it fought services to public health.

This is despite the fact that how many bits of evidence do you need about the over the top lockdowns. You get it, the kids that suffered, the community that suffered. But I noticed she had nothing to say when Daniel Andrews got this. The point of these honest is that I think they should only be like one hundred of them given out every year. They should obviously go to the non famous people who are the volunteers who walk amongst us, the people who do incredible work on top

of their work. Maybe we could extend it out to the people who make the country a better place because of say scientific in Depth, something like that. But the gravy train includes all of the former politicians. The ones we voted for are the ones we despise. No one's going to be changing that system because of course all the people that are currently in charge of the system

all want the little gold badge as well. Now, every time I talk about this, I'll get some angry email from someone somewhere saying, hey, how dare you attack everyone who's received one of these? No, to those who have received them, congratulations. Moving forward, my suggestion is to make these things even more valuable to people. They shouldn't be for your preferretional service. They should be for your community service. If your profession is dealing with the community service, well

then you've already been recognized. But if you're somebody who's been doing incredible work in a volunteer capacity, then yes, I'll be the first in line to cheer you on. Many non famous people received honors today to will of them in particular congratulations. So the people who will write me the same emails, please my point, listen to it. Don't just all for the headline that's going to be around.

Jennifer Westercott's not an example of one of the non famous. Particularly, let's not talk about what's happening in the United States, particularly Los Angeles, particularly in and around California. Now, there's a whole cadre of people who have been waiting, and I mean waiting with baited breath from the moment that Donald Trump put his hand up, took the oath, and became president for the second time forty five and forty seven.

They hate every moment he's in the Oval Office, and they've been trying to pretend that we are on the absolute verge of a third world country where orange chase and nuclear weapons. Yeah, this is what fascism looks like.

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Similarities to what happened in Germany and what's happening now in America are just undeniable. It's particularly chilling because in nineteen thirty nine, more than twenty thousand supporters of a different fascist leader, Adolf Hitler, packed the garden for a so called pro America rally.

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If you don't want to be compared to the folks who held rallies like that in nineteen thirty nine.

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Don't hold rallies like that.

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If you don't want to be called a fascist, stop constantly acting out the dictionary definition of fascist.

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Every American that is supporting Trump right now needs to understand that they are absolutely supporting fascism if they vote for Trump.

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That a former president is a fascist and a danger to this country is just inconceivable.

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Well, and then they proved it.

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To quote a friend Nudu Farage boring. But they've got their mind now because the evil president is ordering troops to shoot a innocent people on the streets of Los Angeles, because the millions of people that have entered the country illegally are now slowly, maturely being held to account saying do you have the paperwork? Are you a legitimate American citizen? Then guess what it's about? Time to leave. Ah, But these protesters, they're playing four day chess. They're on a

huge moral high compared to Orange Man. Bad oh, oh, just such bravery, such bravery. Now, of course, when we see evidence, and if there is any evidence of innocence being hauled off the streets, then I'll be the first to call it, because you know what, I can recognize good Trump, bad Trump, Meanta, and at times a man on an island. Because of course, unless you say everything's amazing or everything's terrible, then nobody's gonna talk to you.

Don't care. Still proud of the photo, right, Okay, But he's got every right to do what the American people absolutely hired him to do, which is, if you're an illegal in the country, see you later, no question. All right, start with the bad onbres as they say, and work your way through. But there are tens of millions of people that are in the country illegally, something that we should not tolerate in this country, that New Zealand, Tuvalu,

or anywhere else. Because a country without borders is basically not a country at all. And I love so many of the lefties that are out there and winging on the Behalf of those, of course, would either live in a gated community or lock their own doors at night. It's a metaphor for how you run the country. As for Trump, unsurprisingly, he's going to roll on with this because of course it makes we don't talk about it elon if you.

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Have violent people, and we're not going to let him get away with it.

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If we see danger to our country and to our citizens, and we'll be very, very strong in terms of law and order. It's about law and order. As for the local ladies, they now have their opportunity to turn around and say, look, Orange Man bad, We warned you, we warned you. This is the fourth Rock.

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There was no need to federalize troops and so to have this here is really just a provocation and something that was not needed in our city.

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Donald Trump has created the conditions you see on your TV tonight. He's exacerbated the conditions. He's lit the Brobbial match. He's putting fuel on this fire ever since he announced he was taking over the National Guard in a legal act and a moral act, an unconstitutional act, and we're going to test that theory with a lawsuit tomorrow.

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Unbelievable. Right. These are the people that are, of course, are just desperately trying to get on the right side of public opinion. After that, they were the ones, including the lady at the start, the LA mayor who was so bad in the fires. May how terrible her and Nuisance were in the fires. Well, now it's the chance to light the emotional one and then this is the bit that is going to get me in the most trouble.

But I sadly think it needs to be said, why do people bring national flags of anything other than the nation that they are in when they're involved in a dispute like this that in and of itself could take many hours for us to discuss. But it's a perfect example of what can be wrong in many of our countries, countries like Australia, where we have protests where people are waving around a flag of the country that they don't live in. Why now, you can simultaneously be a proud

Australian and a citizen of the world. You can be a proud American and a citizen of the world. But why are you waving the flag of the country that apparently you either wanted to leave or you're not a citizen of, or you don't living Again, I said, I'll get into trouble, so I mon't stop it there quick breakpack with more plenty to talk about here this evening. Thank you so much for watching. Paul Murray Live. Nice to be back this Monday night after a couple of

nights off again. Thank you so much to James Morrow, who is in the man cave next here on Paul Murray Live. Now he was in the host share and just kicked kicked backside being polite as possible here on Thursday and Sunday night, the Great James Morrow, on top of all of his other commitments, started Sunday's Friday Nights Telegraph all the rest of it. Did you have fun hosting? Had a great time? Good, isn't it? It's a lot of fun. Is the best seat in Australia's house? Yeah,

and it ain't moving. But to book him anytime, You're work them anytime, all right, Henry Parke. Of course there is an l MP MP and he joins us now from Queensland. Love you to see you too, mate. So before we get to the gretta of everything and we talk about what's going on in LA because your column today was absolutely nailing the nonsense that's happening there and what really is about apparently part of the trade negotiations to maybe get rid of the ten percent global tariff

which the Trump administration has placed on Australia. There's a chance that we might be changing some of the rules when it comes to the importation of beef, particularly American beef. Now what's really interesting about this is that generally speaking, we're not into that. Why because we want to try

to protect our own farmers in our own industry. But on top of all of that, you need to know that Brazilian beef, which it previously had it's mad cow issues and all the rest of it in a long time ago, is now starting to be welcomed back into the global frame. And of course, because they pay their people Brazilian wages not Australian, it ends up being cheaper. So is the Australian beef industry going to be under some sort of attack either to get a deal done

or it's all global? And of course all of these people sit in seats of the Labour Party were willing to flush down the tut James, Look, where's the beef and where's it going to go?

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Well, it's a really interod question here because you know, we make fantastic beef Heuropes, I mean, some of the best beef in the world. America also, though raises some of the best beef in the world too, as you would know. And there's a big difference, you know. Here we're born to the sort of the grass fed. There they have that beautiful, great finished with the barbling and like god, you love a USDA Prime steak, you know when they do that, think the steakhouses and it's all

crusty on the top. How good is that?

Speaker 1

You gotta Smith and Wilenski's, Yes, sparks, ah Marks, sparks to day, I've got to say, and cans all sorts of fantastic steakhouses.

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You don't go to Chapel twenty twenty in Merckville. Yes, he's a great steak there.

Speaker 1

By the way, when people used to mention restaurants on Tebo, they used to get stuff for free. Now now him full price.

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Right, So it's just actually in say this, but what we're talking about here though, But yeah, but we do love our Chapel twenty in America. They are great people.

Speaker 1

But this is a reallyation because I think if you tried.

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To bring Australian American beef into Australia, I don't think it would have a lot of pickup, no, you know, I think. But then there's also another thing that we have to acknowledge here, and that is and you sort of hinted at it just there, Paul, when Donald Trump came out and said, hey, we're gonna do these tariffs, We're gonna start protecting our own stuff, well, it kind of brought out that, you know, the EU and Australia and a lot of other countries have been tariffing and

in fact just blocking things. Now. You know, biosecurity mayor bay not be the reason, but there's an awful lot of you know, protection as well as for our beef farmers. And you know, I love our beef farmers. I love all of our Limary producers are great and you know, and we just do fantastic beef here. And I don't know that would be you know, much cheaper. I don't think you'd get that sort of you know, I don't think the mark would would take it.

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Up position, which is, well, no, I didn't say I'm taking the free treatment. No no, no, no, no no no no no, no, sorry, I have taken it. I just put my hand on the grill a.

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Little bit because because actually, no, no, no, I am a modified free trader, you know, and I actually just think that, you know, when do you start to attack Donald Trump or tabs, you have to acknowledge that we all do and that it is fair for countries to protect their industry.

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Fair point, Henry, We had lots of plugs and lots of things in there, so we apologize for keeping you waiting, but important things needed to be our good people by the way, So again, do you think this is something that the government should go anywhere near being willing to trade.

Speaker 4

I don't think we should be compromising biosecurity standards at all. I think James makes a lot of good points. I don't think there's going to be a strong market for American beef here. But I think the most important thing is we set these rules for a reason. It's not necessarily against American beef. We actually allow American beef imports here, but we just don't allow them if they are from cows that have come from elsewhere or have the risk

of coming from elsewhere. We want to ensure that we've got eyes on all the you know, from the from the start of their lives through to when they finished. We want to ensure that we have the proper biosecurity measures and Unfortunately we don't have those in other areas of the American continent, so we have to make sure that nothing is going to compromise our beef industry here. And I think the government should be sending a really strong message to the Americans that we're not willing to

compromise on that. We're happy to talk, happy to get around the table, but in terms of austray and biosecurity, that's the line that we have never crossed in the past and we shouldn't cross now.

Speaker 1

Can I also give a shout out to Mumu in Brisbane and the Gold Coast and on reader's behalf or to Francois in Melbourne. She loves us taken the middle of the night. All right, Now, let's get to something you'll see, which is one of the things the Labour Party put on the table at the last election was trying to increase the amount of subsidies for people to

have solo on their roof batteries at home. Now, Henry, to me, this seems like another version of something that frankly worked previously, which is when Tony Abbott was talking about things like direct action right able to essentially bring your power bills down by getting off the grid is a good idea. But of course, as soon as you start to put free money on, here come the cowboys. How do you think this is going to go in the next couple of years?

Speaker 4

What we've seen similar schemes rolled out in South Australia and Victoria and they haven't really had the level of take up that those governments are anticipating.

Speaker 1

The fear that.

Speaker 4

I've got, Paul, is that ultimately, when you go down the path with these schemes, you're ultimately taking away from those who can least afford it and giving it to those who actually can afford to put on a battery or a solar system within their home. So I've got

concerns about the inequity of this. I look at the constituents of mine who are struggling to put food on the table, struggling to make ends meat, and I just worry about the costs that we're imposing on them in order to subsidize those who can probably afford to put on these sort of systems.

Speaker 1

Yeah, what do you think you're too, because look self off the grid, lots of people I'm doing well.

Speaker 10

It makes sense in certain circumstances, you know, like it may it makes sense if you've got a country place, you know, you gotta have a solar battery and when the power goes out, the battery kicks in.

Speaker 1

That sort of thing.

Speaker 10

But dive into this program, you know, you're talking about two point three billion dollars. Two point three billion dollars, you know, on top of everything else. Here's the thing that struck because this article that was in The Australian about this the company there's these five different kinds of batteries that you can have and you can sign up for it and they'll manage the power and maybe you get some money back, and it's it was very sort of whiz bang and cool. But two point three billion

dollars to get a battery. Now, I looked at the companies that made these batteries and almost all of them guess where they make their batteries.

Speaker 1

Uh, China, China, that's correct, China.

Speaker 10

And and and here's the thing, you know, this is the this is not you know, the Albanezi government talks about the future Made in Australia program, but it's giving all of this money to these future Made in China programs, which is exactly what everything renewable, the solar, the batteries and all of that is. I have an idea for a power system. It's revolutionary. You come home, you flick a switch, the lights go on, You pay a pretty reasonable price for it, and everything just works. We used

to have that in this country. We used to have it. Yeah, take me back to this next by.

Speaker 1

Yeah, all right, all right, Well, thankfully our time machine will not be solid power. We've got a diesel generator hooked up to it. So I'll see you after the show. All right, quick break back with more back with these lads. James, get ready because you're about to fire up about rubber bullets, Los Angeles and a lot of fruitcakes trying to pretend Orange man bad. Thanks very much for watching a little TV update in the moment or two is time my

thoughts on the end of the project. Henry Pike, the LNP member, joins us now from beautiful Coins and kiss the ground on the way out of the studio for me mate, and none other than the one for James Morrow. Well, you can kiss anywhere you want the man cave, you know, to know what else you could say this skuy? After that? Yeah, let's talk. Let's talk about what's happening in Los Angeles. Now.

Obviously an awful lot of attention today was on a member of the free press copying the rubber bullet, that being the Channel nine reporter who was standing between where the police were and where the police were firing. If you haven't seen it here, it.

Speaker 5

Is rubber bullets of protesters moving them on through the heart of lak.

Speaker 1

All right, but as for what all this is about illegal immigration tens of millions of people. Trump set it up perfectly as a way of changing the subject, perhaps, but still, which is to go after the most left wing state with the silliest of things, knowing that the craziest of protesters will turn up. How long does that last before people start to saying a week of this?

Speaker 10

Well, you see, here's the real danger here, Paul, because you know this whole thing. The approximate cause is that ICE, the immigration Custrians supports people. They went and they were doing a bunch of raids to pick people up, and a lot of these people, according to the White House, were people who were gang members, sex criminals, people like that who were still there illegally, and they want them out of the country. Most Americans support getting illegals out

of the country. There's been ten or eleven million. You know, we reckon you know, how you do that? I don't know, It's complicated, but you got to undo what Biden did. Biden really messed the country up. But do it in La well, of course you've got all I mean, the place is blasically one by communist Karen Bass. You know, there's all these activist groups, radicals. The place loves the riot. They're almost like the French, you know, but you know the uh. But then you get these sorts of scenes here.

I mean, these protesters are nuts. You know, they're trying to you know, throw bricks through cars and you know, throwing stuff off over pass the point shutting it out. Something my mail is, my male is that they get Triumph shut down LAX tomorrow overnight, is what I'm hearing.

Speaker 1

We'll see if protests the protesters.

Speaker 10

Are going to try and do some sort of action in lex Now, this is sort of a bit like what they're trying to do is rekindle the Black Lives Matter thing in twenty twenty, you know, and they want to get that rolling in cities across the country. Now, I actually don't know whether or not this is going to catch fire in the same way BLM did, because you know, you're talking about this thing. We've got these scenes here, Paul where people are demonstrating, waving Mexican flags

around and burning cars. Now, you know, I'm sorry, as you said, and I think I wrote this in my column today too. If you are protesting, like because you want to stay in this country and be part of the American dream, that ain't it, son, That is not a way, you know, And I was thinking about this, like, but you go back to the Civil Rights movement in the sixties, black Americans marching with dignity with American flags because they wanted part of the American dream. These people

don't want part of the American dream. They want to basically bring Mexico or wherever they come from into America. Separatism, it's Balkanization, it's levity, civil war territory. And this is actually really the endpoint of the failure of multiculturalism.

Speaker 1

Well, sir Henry to that point, I mean, let's localize this, right. It always does my head in and it has for decades when people are waving around flags of the country they are not in. Yes, at times the thing they may be protesting may be relevant to the place of which they are from, or have relatives all the rest of it. But again, in this case, waving around a Mexican flag because the United States is saying, well, you've got to be a citizen to be here, doesn't feel

like a moral eye ground. But you've seen plenty of protests, even in places like Brisbane where plenty of flags are being flown around and aren't the Australian flag. It's not in service of anything to do with Australia.

Speaker 4

You're dead right, Paul. I always find that strange when you see a protest, and often they'll be flags totally you know this is associated from the protest. You'll see Palestinian flags being flown at an Indigenous protest or vice versa. It makes no sense to me why people want to surround themselves with flags that don't belong to them or you, that aren't associated with the cause that they're after. But

those scenes in la have just been shocking. It's terrible to see in Australia and caught in the crossfire there, But we wouldn't tolerate that in our country, you know, And I think that it's important for us to look at it through the prism of many US presidents have caught out in the National Guard before to deal with crises like this, and both Republican and Democrats presidents have

done it. I think it's really laughable to see a guy like Gavenusom, who's been so much part of the problem in California for so long, trying to wag the finger now at Donald Trump for trying to actually step in and try to restore peace in the cities of Los in the streets of Los Angeles, it's quite laughable, perhaps not more laughable than individuals flying Mexican flags when they want to stay in the United States, apparent.

Speaker 1

But also the LA mayor is just trying to put it back in the horse after her behavior and around the fires of a few months.

Speaker 10

Well, Karen Bass is a big part of the problems. You know, she's incompetent, she's incredibly hard left, you know, and the l A government, the LA City government, and the California Steak government fund an awful lot of these radical organizing groups that are then going out and creating the protests.

Speaker 1

Can you believe that the debautally families in the news at the moment now as you know on Drinker. So I have no preference in this matter, but I imagine there may be some other opinions on the panel's evening Apparently they're pulling back from some of the red wine production, suggesting the youngest people don't particularly like it. Obviously they still sell it, but hence was the story around there today, Henry red White, is this an Is this a serious

matter that you'll be raising in the Federation Chamber? Please don't.

Speaker 4

Well, I think our wine industry is of national significance and I've been part of an inquiry in the last Parliament into market access into India and I'm sure there's heaps of Indian middle class. I'm sure there's millions of them who want to enjoy good Australian red wine. And I think it's a disgrace that we're pulling out old bonds like that. That's that should be very concerning, and I think the government needs to do harder to try to get Australian market access into India.

Speaker 10

Well, you know, there's one thing, Paully that the government could do to help the wide industry, and that would be to cut the insane taxi that we have on wine, spirits, beer. Oh and just kind of also put a little plug in for tobacco, which of course created the all vap shop mess in all of our cities. You know, like

we don't need to go in substize and industry. And aside from the failure of parenting that this shows generationally that young people aren't necessarily taking up red wine the way they should.

Speaker 1

Well yeah, okay, wrong, no, yeah, I just know when you introduced the secret, but will you give them a little you know, okay, you know, a little fit to be all right.

Speaker 10

So but the point is is that, you know, like if we're concerned about the wine industry, well let's stop belting it with all.

Speaker 1

Of his tax yep, correct, don't forget that bottle of Bundy rummers. I always say's sixty three percent tax. Thanks, thank you, ladies to appreciate it. See you were get in a moment or two. Is time plenty to talk about, including is t has MANI going to have an election or not? Or are they going to get a new premier without an election? Some news tonight, mon a sec. I'm sparing a thought for our mates in Tasmania tonight because we don't know if there will or won't be

an election. You know the story most of no confidence moved by the Labor Party, supported by the Green supported by Independence, means that either the premier has to go or he presses the big red button and we are off to an election. Now he's planning to go off to an election. In fact, he was talking with Bridget Archer and is now suggesting that she will be running for him in the seat a Bass, basically running in the state version of what she had held in the

federal Elament for multiple elections. However, some people in and around the Tazzi political scene, including a rather prominent former Liberal, is suggesting, no, you don't have to go to an election, you can just change the premier.

Speaker 11

An old saying in politics, the worst day in government, the worst day, worst day is better than the best day in opposition. And I think sadly in six weeks times or so, the few members of the Liberal p Orp who don't lose their seats the election are going to find that out the hard way.

Speaker 1

So a large, a last ditch effort is being suggested by some not suggesting that this is the majority of the party rum or it's going to happen tomorrow. But I'd like to tell you what might be on its way, which is that the former federal senator and a local Liberal legend, Eric Abbetts, is being suggested as a potential replacement for the existing premier. Now, of course that would mean you'd have to get the existing premier to try to stay in the Parliament for a while to keep

the numbers up, or go after a by election. You get how all that works. So who knows where all of this is going to end up. But if it ends up at an election, the suggestion is that because Labour's got everything federally and the tides out on the limbs at the moment, then they could potentially end up in a worse situation, particularly in the north in and

around things to do with the stadium. But but I stay what I said last week, which is you can't be pushed around by an opposition, an opposition that yes, was able to make the most of the numbers that they had. But honestly, who knows whether the people of Tasmania will be annoyed at the reason for the election and therefore the result may will not be as obvious as is seemingly the case. But there is one way to avoid the election that is going to be to

change the premiere. The premiere and I don't often get along, but I back him in on what he's had to say about the wrecking that is the Greens and the Independence and the Labor Party. Now, finally, you will have heard by now that the project is going to go off the air at the end of this month. This would be the moment in time where you would expect a person who has been often pilloried by that program, or I rolled by that program, to go ding Don

the Witch is dead. Guess what I'm not, Because any show to be on as long as they have has a certain amount of success. I've disagreed with almost every piece of content that they're put to wear, but are there are plenty of talented people that are behind it, and I don't like the idea of people working in Telly having fewer opportunities to work in Telly. I also think that we should keep as many news programs around

for as long as possible. Why because we want people to be getting information, even the stuff that we disagree with, from as many potential sources as possible. Now again, I am hearing the words of one of my radio mentors suggesting, do not show mercy to those that will never show you mercy. Well guess what I am going to. So the people who have lost their job, I'm sorry to the people who work at the technical side, the production side, and yes, some of the people who appear on camera.

I'm sorry. Of course if it was in reverse, you know exactly how they treat it. But that's why we're different. So do tomorrow up

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