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Paul Murray Live | 8 December

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Anthony Albanese slumps in the latest news polling yet again, and Syria in chaos as the president flees the country. Plus, what does the future hold for Australia following a terror attack on a Melbourne synagogue?

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Speaker 1

From the Sky News Center. This is Paul Murray Live, Goodday, good Evening, Happy Sunday. Lots to get to and what will be our final week on the air for twenty twenty four. Next year is of course an election year, and that is when we are firing on all cylinders everywhere here at Sky News, and no more so than writing each and every night.

Speaker 2

Now.

Speaker 1

Obviously this week there's a lot of cricket, sport, lots of other things that are around in the world. So do me a favor. If you can't watch us live, make sure that your series link or of course you get the highlights at skynews dot com dot au. I want you to be across what they are doing to try to well put some of the garbage out before the end of the year, and also at times to

be able to pull the wall over our eyes. But for obvious reasons, I want to get to a couple of things, including a very deep dive into some data. You know, when it comes to this show, let's all say it together. The data are the bricks the opinion, well, that is of course the mortar that builds the wall, the wall of which that we have against the madness, particularly of the left. Now, I've got to start with the obvious here, which is of course what took place

on Friday, the fire bombing of the synagogue in Melbourne. Now, there's not much more I can add to people who are more directly affected by it. But there are moments in any country at any one time, there are moments that are big or small where we know instantly whether the person who is leading, either our organization or in

this case the country is up to it. And unsurprisingly, when the rising tide of anti Semitism that has been building since October more than a year ago now has essentially been fifty to fiftied by the Prime Minister, fifty to fifty by the industrial left turning around and saying that it's just as important as we go after Islamophobia as antisemitism. Police. All right, any attack on any place of worship, be it Muslim, je Hindu, Christian, whatever, is

of course a disgrace. The idea that people didn't die, so therefore was is it really as big as part? Yes? The whole point is that we are able to have the conversation about the places in our community that are important to us, but thankfully not having to deal with the horrible situations like of course that Moss shouting which took place in New Zealand. Now this Prime minister because

he is caught. He's not just caught in terms of left and right, he's not just blind to right and wrong, but he is so in his DNA, a person who has come up and kissed the ring all the way through of the left, from education to staffer, all the way through to becoming an MP, a minister, a shadow minister, an Opposition leader and then a Prime minister. But of course, unlike people on television, unlike the people who write or storm your office, you are the person who is the

representative of the country. And every time they turn around and tell us, regardless of whether it's Team redal team Blue, I will govern for all Australians. Well, how many times have we seen over the past two in a bit almost three years that that, of course, like so many other things, is a lie. They have a certain hierarchy of Australians, a certain set of people who are their priorities, who are their focus, And when it comes to matters to do with the Middle East, there is a numbers

game here. Apart from philosophically and everything else. And there are more labor seats that have got significant Islamic populations, and there are labor seats with Jewish populations, just like there are more labor party seats in the city or the suburb than there are in regional Australia. So when they have their choice about a policy like say neewable energy, they go great, this is amazing. Everyone in the city loves it. Not a single person will be inconvenienced at

the local doggy park in a teal seat. Instead, all those people who don't vote for us already, you're going to get twenty thousand solar panels Ada between now and twenty thirty Why because we want to say that we have cut forty three percent of one percent of the world's emissions. While China, of course, as we all know, under the Paris Agreement that Australia signs, they refer to themselves as a developing nation despite the fact that they

have a space station. We don't. They've held two Olympic Games this century. We haven't yet. God love you Brisbane in twenty thirty two, however, because they have a scenario where they keep people in poverty they're able to refer to themselves as a developing nation. So you end up in this scenario where the hierarchy of things becomes directly linked to what will impress or annoy enough people to get us to seventy six seats in the Parliament. If

we get to seventy six, that's a majority. Bang, we're fine. Everyone who disagrees whether us, you can go jump. And that's why you got the response that you got out of this Prime minister. Now, I just like everything about his public utterances. You clearly know I wouldn't vote for him, But I do not think he's a nasty or evil man.

I just think that in his worldview, there are these moments when the little light goes off and the emotional response is proportionate too, just how bright or how frequent or how loud the siren is that's going off. And I want to show you why this Prime Minister was in two places on one issue. Now you saw the fire bombing, you saw how serious it was. It is a line that has now been crossed that someone was wanting to destroy a holy site to another group of Australians.

If Australians were in that building, there may well have been serious injuries or of course death. This was the Prime Minister when talking about it first, when it wasn't quite clear to him how to respond. This is what he said.

Speaker 3

There's no place in Australia for an outrage such as this. To attack a place of worship is an attack on Australian values. To attack a synagogue is an act of anti Semitism.

Speaker 1

Correct, but it's also an act of terrorism. Now, we don't have to get complicated about what does terrorism mean, because it's very obvious when somebody commits an act of violence that is about attempting to stop someone following their faith or their political freedoms, or being able to carry out their freedoms in a country. That's terrorism. It would be exactly the same if it was an attack on a mosque. But it isn't an attack on a mosque. It was an attack on a synagogue. So let's stop

the fifty to fifties. Understandably, people believe that the Prime minister's first response did not match the moment that yet again he failed that leadership test of being somebody who gets it, who knows how to muster all of the words that they've learnt put them in the right combination to connect with the people who most importantly at the

absolute nucleus of it. But also a message which is sent from Cape York to Lonceston, from Broom to Darwin Ki and everything else in between, that he gets it, which is why he copped it and rightly so. After that first statement, the.

Speaker 4

First thing the Prime Minister needs to do is he and his government need to declare yesterday's attack at the Adas Synagogue a terrorist event, totally unacceptable in our country, and the Prime Minister needs to stand up for our values.

Speaker 5

And there's a hate crime that has been committed, and one that is designed to intimidate people, a one that is designed to destroy property and attack people on the basis of their religion. When the crime is designed to strike fear into the hearts of Laura Biding Australians, it is an act of terrorism.

Speaker 1

Now, wherever the Prime Minister was on Friday, where he should have been today is Melbourne. Where he should have been in Melbourne today was of course at the synagogue. He should have been looking people in the eye and he should have been responding to their emotional need right now, But of course he was nowhere near Melbourne today. Oh, the Prime Minister. The bloke's got his own plane. We all know that he's got his own plate, all right.

He's even got a nickname which is named after his puppy, all right. So if he wanted to Toto one could have turned around, shump straight off. The Melbourne doesn't have to do a red eye like people that are booking the Virgin or anything else. So he could have made it back, but he didn't. Instead he stayed in Perth because he had really important work to do today. Today he announced one point five million dollars of taxpayers money for the federal bailout of Sculpture by the Sea in

Western Australia. Oh what a priority I mean. He couldn't have done this in a press release. He couldn't have waited until next week. He couldn't possibly have held off until the next time that he's there. No, no, no, no. It was more important that he was the savior of Sculpture by the Sea than he was going to a site of an event that showed that Australia had crossed

a new line. But he wanted to send a message and one that was He even noted today by normally the scribes for the TV news who often give him the benefit of the doubt, but didn't this time, where they noted and they even said it in their six pm news. These comments were stronger. But they weren't in Melbourne, they weren't in Victoria. They were in Perth, in part as he was saving sculpture by the sea.

Speaker 3

If you want my personal view, Quite clearly, terrorism is something that is aimed at creating fear in the community, and the atrocities that occurred at the synagogue in Melbourne clearly were designed to create fear in the community and therefore, from my personal perspective, certainly fulfill that definition of terrorism.

Speaker 1

Now you've seen this blow, you've seen him look pissed off. Remember when he couldn't get the housing bill through the first time, the second time whatever, Right, he was annoyed. Something had happened, and he was despite the fact I'm the Prime Minister. I can't fix this. I'd love to

be able to magic want I can't. Instead, not stable monotone because again the flashing red light didn't go off for him to show that this was But if it was an attack somewhere else, we all know what the response would be he'd be there as soon as the fire trucks had left. Now I don't know whether the community would even want him there. But the point is, as the Prime Minister of this country, he should be

able to walk anywhere in this country. As the leader of our nation, he should have the stones to be able to look anyone in the eye, even the people who vehemently disagree with him, and have the confidence that he is the representative of the nation. Instead, he's three thousand kilometers away and dragged to saying the right thing with the giant eye roll that could be heard on

the East Coast. I want you to compare and contrast you to Peter Dutton, the alternative Prime Minister, and I want you to imagine if he was the Prime minister, what set of values would be triggering for him to react to this moment that Australia should not be living in Rolton.

Speaker 4

This is an act of terrorism, pure and simple, and I think the Prime Minister's deliberate decision to seek political advantage over the course of last twelve months on this issue and play to a domestic audience of Green voters, I think has been deplorable and one of the worst things I've ever seen in public life.

Speaker 1

Prime Minister took a.

Speaker 4

Deliberate decision thirteen months ago to play down the level of anti Semitism in the community, and the government's policies right up to this very day have made it less safe for people of Jewish faith in our country.

Speaker 1

And before you think, oh there he is paulled as Team Blue, team read what about an example of someone with the stones and the conviction and the heart and the capacity to focus from Team Red. He's the new so Wales Premier Chris Mins. This didn't happen in his state, but he is responding on the behalf of those that are afraid. One day.

Speaker 6

It may whether it's a synagogue, whether it's a church, whether it's a mosque in the state. We cannot have a situation where it's lawfully protected to exercise your religion, to practice your religion, but somebody else has decided to stop that from happening.

Speaker 1

Albot, there is a way to do it, but either you don't want to or you're not up to it. Either way, we're all watching, we all see, and we all see yet another failure. Now it does seem like a very long time doesn't it. And of course it's only two in a bit years ago since this prime minister came to power, and of course it wasn't swept to power. It was the lowest primary vote the Labor Party had since what nineteen oh something. They got what

a one two seat majority. That's the sort of stuff you get when you're going for term three, not term one.

Speaker 2

What it?

Speaker 1

Because we know Tony Abbott ninety plus seats, Kevin Rudd big back bench to burn this bloke again turnbull like in terms of just how little margin there actually was, and ever since he it's gone backwards. Yeah, okay, the first few months you're able to blame Scott Morrison for everything, and let's have an inquiry that confirms, yeah, Scott Morrison's to blame for everything. And then slowly, maturely, the promises that you make, like we're going to do something about

cost of living and it all gets worse. People turn around and they start marking you harshly. Then, of course, the absolutely most important thing the country had to do, because he wanted the little update in his Wikipedia about how amazing he is as a leader, is that we had to have a national conversation about whether or not we were going to change the constitution now again on day one. If he wanted to, he could have put the voice in place. He could have passed it as his first

piece of legislation if that was his priority. But instead, no, don't know. Four hundred and fifty million bucks and the bloke's all over the shop at the same time as cost of living is getting worse, and at the same time that his own government took fifteen one hundred dollars of ten million workers. Oh, but we're still in it for you, please. Well, at the end of the second full year of the Aarbanezi government, on the lead up to a federal election, there is another pole and it

is terrible for the Prime Minister. Now, he thinks as he swaggers around the office. Oh, I'm fine as long as the teals stick around. And I've been peddling in the pockets of the cross bench for years and years, so don't worry. I'll be fine. Even if we're a minority. It'll be sweet. How look at this, the Labour Party's primary vote, according to the Resolve Pole in the Channel Line papers, right, hardly hardcore right wing stuff. It's down to twenty seven percent. At the last federal election it

was about one in thirty three. The Liberal Party now very close to forty. Remember, if there's a four in front of it, they're going to win an election. At thirty eight, you start to look at the ability of things like so the one nation seven percent, most of those preferences most likely would go against Albanezi for the LNP, and then depending on what the United Australian Party do.

So you can see just that the grafts there again on the right hand side of your screen of the Blue which had fallen away post election and now is starting to absolutely get on top of the Labor Party. But let's dig into this because twelve months ago, so right now it's twenty seven thirty eight, twelve months ago, thirty five thirty four. Just in case anyone's wondering, look at a scoreboard. Look at it. Yeah, that's the scoreboard. A tied game is now turning into one where they

are losing. And yes, everyone can come back, and nothing's inevitable, and all the caveats and all the rest of it, and the asterisks and all of that don't run off to the ghost to complain. But they're in a world of pain. But have a look at this. We've got a bit more data, and I really appreciate this. That is publicly available data. It's breakdown data from the resolved Political Monitor. Part of again that Channel nine thing. Do the two party preferred thing, because that might mean they

are held accountable for what happens at an election. But still, let's look at the data. Okay, now, okay, a little bit of movement here, a little bit of movement there. But have a look at this. The Labour party's national vote at twenty seven percent, as I said, the best part of five points down on the federal election, thirty eight percent up for the coalition. The question and the big draw card is independent other. Other can be United

Australian Party. Other can be Teals, other can be dily right. So I don't know exactly whether that means left or right, but obviously other Greens, Labor you get to fifty percent, but other is not all of that. Have a look in New South Wales twenty seven percent, thirty eight percent. Have a look in Victoria. The Labor vote is lower in Victoria tonight than it is in New South Wales. That is extraordinary for a place that's got what a

full time government. Look at those numbers there are incredible about what has changed. And this is only compared to the most recent surveys. Have a look at Queensland where the Labour Party's vote again is down one but how strong thirty eight National thirty eight, New South Wales thirty eight, Victoria thirty eight Queensland for the LNP Labor down down,

prices are down all over the shop. Now remember, of course, when the Labour Party vote falls, then they're into this pitch battle with the Greens because you see, the way it's always worked for them is that they can get their vote to hear the Greens can get their vote to here, and then they can bind their vote to go past fifty percent. But in some parts of Brisbane, now this didn't quite play out at the state election.

At the last federal election, the Greens were able to get themselves just in front of the Labor Party, which meant it was the Labor Party that gave its preferences to the Greens and rocket them past fifty percent to win seats. If they are sitting in a scenario where in Queensland they are just a quarter of the vote there will be seats closer you get to the city that will end up if this is right, propelling more Greens to Parliament outside of Newsiwal's Queensland and Victoria, South Australia,

Western Australia, Tazzi. But where they take this sample, I don't know, a little worse for the coalition. So maybe that's why the Prime Minister is spending more time saving sculpture by the sea than he is the synagogue situation in Victoria. But you can see a pretty bad scenario. Well guess what, kids, the news gets even worse for the Prime minister personally. You see, like all politicians and I've seen this, I've seen it up close, and I've

seen plenty of all stripes for a long time. They think the ultimate solution to all problems is you know what this needs? More me, like more cow bell and the old Saturday Night Live sketch, more me, more Olbow. There's more railbow than everyone will fall back in love with me, will power. It ain't gonna work. Twelve months ago, same Pahl preferred Prime minister thirty five to thirty five, meaning, of course about thirty percent of people are sitting around

going as what that's what it was. Okay, sorry, it was forty two to twenty eight. That's what it used to be. I've got this the wrong way around and I've given away my punchline now thirty five a piece. So the party's going backwards, the leaders going backwards, and people have had enough. These are some of the people who gave comments to the pollsters about why they were saying that they were going to move their vote away from the Prime Minister. Interest rates, high insurance through the roof,

food price is not regulated properly. Now it does seem when you read all of these that everyone watches this show. But I know I'll get the numbers every day. Not everyone watches the show, okay, But the message we are right over the target. So why they hate us, why they want to shut us down misinformation Bill. We are right on top of where things are. I wouldn't vote for Albineasy again. He only cares about himself. Labor are rushing things through without thinking, like the social media band

vote for change. They promise everything, they deliver nothing. The wave of crime that's hitting Australians there are stabbings all the time. Labor is governing from the minorities, Green's dividers further, it's got to stop. I don't think labor for the workers anymore. It's difficult not to feel betrayed. So now I'm going to be paying off somebody else's UNI debt. You're joking. It's always interesting in politics what connects with people Like it's pretty obvious that upgrade albow not good

for him. The four and a bit million dollar house not good for him. But I've got to say, is somebody who talks about this all day every day. I had to just reach a little bit back into the memory recesses to go the UNI thing. Oh that's right, that three billion dollar decision. Do you want to also know another little punchline in all of this, Do you know how much it costs the federal budget to give

ten million workers? They're fifteen hundred dollar automatic tax return, which is what they pull away from us at the height of cost of living last year. The exact amount of money that they're going to be spending on in part paying off of writing off some of the student union student university debt. And remember we worked out at

Scottys dot com. That are you that there's a very significant number of those people that have already bugged off overseas and have no plans whatsoever on paying it back government priorities, you see, because they're in the arm wrestled with the Greens. That's where the money's got to go. That's where the focus has got to go. You in the suburbs, you'll be fine being told that there's a drop in your power prices. You know it ain't happening. And then, of course the Camper Press Gallery, who we

know love left wing governments. Apart from the fact that they play better with the media, they generally speaking, are in the same world. Of course, many and most are way off further out to the left, and they're knowing you the mainstream let alone where you and I sit

here at the front of the fight each and every night. Well, they were very impressed that Anthony Abernezi had come up with a new way to somehow convince Australians that down was up and up was down and left was right and they were apparently going great when it comes to cost of living.

Speaker 3

We've got your back, is our message.

Speaker 1

Fifty six percent of people say, no, you don't this pole.

Speaker 7

This is what a pole punch punch, punch, whack, whack, whack.

Speaker 1

Fifty six percent of people total disagree with the concept of does labor have your back? Fifty nine percent of people are you better or worse off than you were at the last election? Again putting the tails to one side. That's game over. You can't bs your way out of that hole. And that's where they are right now, in a world of trouble that they will say is cyclical and has something to do with wars on the other

side of the world, their own decisions. The United States, which booted Biden, has a lower invation rate than we do in the United States where they booted Biden. They've started dropping interest rates here not going to happen this year, and who knows exactly when it may may happen next year. The Reserve Bank is telling us openly that things like inflation may will still be a problem all the way

through twenty five and into twenty six. And you know how many times you heard cost of living, costs living, cost of all that stuff, right, And the reason I am focused on this is firstly because I know that it's what's really happening in your life. Secondly, there are three million people this goes to homelessness, and it is irresponsible if we do not talk about that as the national emergency that it is. And third, because they promised to do better, which meant they aligned just like on

power prices and about their priorities. Oh but there's money for sculpture by the sea in Western Australia. Now let's go into national for a second. Fabe for me to be a bog and trying to explain how the world works, but let's all try and work it out together. A lot happening in Syria. You've heard and seen a lot of news out of Syria in the past couple of days. Now, essentially the rebels in Syria have pushed out the government. The expectation is that the president Assad has flown out

of the country. His family apparently went yesterday and apparently the suggestion is there somewhere near Russia. Why Because I'll explain in a second. They have been fighting a war, but they've had Russia by their side. He's part of what happened today as the rebels were able to take control of major cities and eventually their country.

Speaker 8

That regime regime which has taken thousands upon thousands of lives, including over the past thirteen years of civil war, appears to be coming to an end today. The latest we have is that those Syrian rebel forces are now in the very heart of Damascus. The speed of their advance has taken almost everyone within the international community by surprise. It is less than two weeks since this current offensive began. Just over a week ago, they took Aleppo, Syria's second city.

Just hours ago, they took the key strategic city of Homes. They are now on the brink of taking Damascus, if they haven't already. President Basha Ala Sad nowhere to be found. The latest we have is that he appears to have bordered a plane to depart Damascus, but his whereabouts not yet known.

Speaker 1

Now this is good that a regime that in the past has dropped chemical whip on its people has now been broken. And again, whenever somebody tries to explain how things are going in the Middle East, you know you're not going to be able to quite nail the goldilocks of all of this. But let's try send your complaints to somebody else. I'm just trying to help normal people going. Why is this in the news? So Syria is a country where it has again been one that ended up

being backed up by Russia and Hezbollah and Iran. Right, we're in the sort of the Sunni Shia stuff. Okay, the rebels backed in by countries like Jordan and Turkey, the United States, A little money here, a little money there. At one point Donald Trump, okay, with a Sad and then Asad again turned on his people, he says, bugger this and then threw it all in with those that were trying to get rid of him. Now we pick

up the story back in the Barrio Obama days. But again you can see here the connections between Iran backing in Assadussia backing in THESSAD, Gulf States, the United States backing in the rebels. The rebels then split in half or a significant section where some of the rebels ended up becoming isis why, because they wanted to fight local Kurts and Syrian Kurts following along with the bouncing wall. The whole point here is that for Assad to have fled the country and gone to Russia is a major

defeat for both Iran and Russia. Doesn't mean whatever is going to replace it's going to be better for human rights all the rest of it. I'll be honest, probably not look at countries like Libya and lots of the rest of it, right, But that's why it's in the news because rather than fighting World War three, there are lots of proxy wars like Ukraine Russia, which of course is the United States backing Ukraine. If the United States doesn't back Ukraine, does Russia just roll over the top?

All right? That's why these things are so important, apart from all of the human lives. And again, anyone connected with family here in Australia and there always is. That's the way that it works these days. Strength and love and I hope that your family is okay in all of this. And that's an attempt to tell you what's

happening there now. For something completely different. Do you like mullets, Well, I can tell you that there was a celebration of one of the great Australian hairstyles, one that I won't lie I've been thinking about for a while and it is as culturally important as say the Sydney Festival, where it's just so wonderful because it's just about confronting people with ideas and challenging norms and the Melbourne Ratist Festival, where they basically are the same people just paid to

say the same thing somewhere else. Well, just as confronting to some people is of course the mullet and today Mullet Fest. How good is this? Well done to everyone organizing it. They're clearly taking on a piece and I love everything about this. I love it. Can we do an outdown from there next year? Put it on, put it on the diary if we can. All right, I want let's the chat, don't pencil pen Mullet Fest. I can't grow it, but I'll gladly judge. Thank you to

the Guardian. Did I say it? Yeah? I did. It's Christmas. Thank you to the Turnbull Times because they decided to send a photographer down to have a look at this. Have every one of these photos I want to frame. Look at this for just.

Speaker 7

Photo after the photo after photo of super Australians, Super Australians rocking the mullet, sending their message that you know what, I don't care what you think.

Speaker 1

I'm up for it. I'm bang up for it. I'm down for it. I am ready to play throw on top a little bit. Some of that's action with people ripping up the tires and you've got a perfect Australian event. Wow, single man, because otherwise top of the chart. Look at this Australia, Australia, Australia. I don't know whether they're taking them anyway, I love it, Mullet Fest. Congratulations through everyone involved. I don't know what you win for it, but look

at just drink it in Australia. Drink it in and a quick reminder compulsory voting part of the system or a quick breakback when more pleasure to talk about including we're just going to talk about winners and losers of the week. We're going to start to move into looking back at twenty twenty four around the corner of the twenty twenty five. Thank you for all your support. You've been amazing this year. Please keep listening to us at skynews dot com dot au. Make sure you get all

the podcasts through the Nova player. But more importantly, sit there. We're not even halfway done. More ness, how going to Sunday Night with the wonderful Linda Scott and the wonderful James Ashby, who of course does not want anyone to know about your pern but it is an amazing place. It is a magnificent spot where he is. All right, let's just talk about some of the reactions to the fire bomb starf. I won't do too much on it because I know you've heard an awful lot in the past.

At the while, Linda, do you think that there is a delayed response, a slightly off response, because there are members of that community that are saying there is all right, so we sort of can't say that down is up and up is down. But is the PM meeting your standard for how to react to this?

Speaker 9

Well, I don't think this is about how people respond. It's about the fact that there was a horrific crime committed and that was at a synagogue, a place of worship and a very special place for all Australians, but particularly for those of Jewish faith or background. And that's just a devastating thing to happen at any time in any place in the world, but to have it, Paul here, happen in Australia, in Victoria is just truly horrific. I mean,

we've talked before. I moved when formerly I was on the City of Sydney to try and get a hate speech, you know, racist graffiti removed from the City of Sydney's streets within an hour or two. The Lord Mayor, Clovern Moore rejected that I think there is more that we can all be doing. But what I don't think we should do is make this a partisan issue. I don't think we want to see our leaders divided. Australians don't want to see Australian political leaders divided over these kinds

of issues. I think we can all universally condemn hate. We can all, of course, universally condemn this crime.

Speaker 1

So James, I'm sure you will agree with parton, disagree with much, but there was one thing I wanted to ask you about, which was Chris Mins. So Chrismans would like in New South Wales there to be Basically, I'm going to get this wrong to some degree, but it is where we are. There are rules around what you can and can't do out in front of an abortion clinic, and there are certain punishments that come with trying to

stop people accessing protesting and something like that. Legislation is being discussed as being able to move around to significant religious sites. How would you feel about that? As the response, He.

Speaker 10

Well, look it's a start, and I commend Chris Means for at least having the gumption to come up with a better solution than our Prime minister has come up with to this point.

Speaker 2

But the problem.

Speaker 10

Remains that we are seeing these protests end up in some iconic landmark locations across our country. It doesn't matter whether it's the Opera House in Sydney or some of the more iconic places across other cities in this country. But I think what Labor have forgotten here is that twelve hundred people were massacred last October on the seventh. Twelve hundred dead, a further two hundred and fifty four abducted and held as hostages.

Speaker 2

There's still over one hundred unaccounted for.

Speaker 10

We presume some of them are still alive, but there's no guarantees. And the issue that we have here the labor government very slow to come out when this terrorism attack occurred.

Speaker 2

At the get go, you did not.

Speaker 10

See Jewish people protesting, rioting, or conducting themselves in any form of inappropriate manner. They weren't fire bombs or threats on mosques. They behave themselves Because I knew that the country of origin where this terrorism attack took place, there would be swift.

Speaker 2

Action, and that action took place.

Speaker 10

The issue that we've allowed here in this country is we have not taken a firm position as a nation on who we back here.

Speaker 2

Israel were the.

Speaker 10

Country that were attacked first, and they've defended the rights of their country to look after their own people. And yes, blood has been spilt on both sides, but it was deserved retaliation and I stand with Israel on that fact. No one can ever take away the action that that country performed. I don't want to see what's happening in this country go any further. I don't want to see if we're seeing the problems we are now with a

certain religious group of his. We don't know who attacked this Mossu, but we do know there is a particular religious group they have been.

Speaker 2

Protesting the most.

Speaker 10

I don't want to end up like England, where the number one name in that country is Muhammad today. I want to remain a country that is not divided on racial or religious grounds, and that is the path we're heading down.

Speaker 2

Unfortunately in this country right now.

Speaker 1

I can add a new poll to the one that I got into great detail during the start of the program, and it is the news poll. At this stage, I can't see what the overalls are about. Two monty preferred all the rest of it year. Again, terrible result for the Prime minister. For strong and decisive leader. It's done in sixty to Albaneze's forty four, and that apparently is the lowest score that a prime minister has ever got in that category since they started asking it. In about

half a dozen different categories. Again, unsurprisingly he's down. And these are all just versions of the same message about where people are right now, James Again, obviously one nation sitting at that seven percent national mark means in other places it's way higher. In some places it's way lower. It means, of course the Senate picture all of those things, and also it means preferences. But we're now getting to the stage where last year was so bad a reset

was needed at the start of this year. This year is worse than last year in terms of the ending. And the reset is an election.

Speaker 2

Yeah yeah. Peter Dutton's got a lot of ground to make up.

Speaker 10

And while he tends to have these bursts where he does well, it's not consistent enough so close to an election, and I really want to see more out of Peter Dutton. I want to see an assertive bloke who I know he is. I know he's capable of it. But we could be weeks or months out from an election. At the rate we're going. There's words to say that we are. You know, there could be an announcement as early as

Australia Day that we're going to an early election. The problem is a coalition of got fifty five seats in the lower House. They've got to get at least seventy six to govern. There's a hell of a long way to go. And labor very good tactically on the ground, and they've also made it very very comfortable for themselves in the lower House with the Teals and the Greens and some of those other cross bench members. Look at

the relationship with Bob Katter and Anthony Albanezi. You just never quite know where people like Bob will go, and certainly the Teals, I don't know.

Speaker 2

Teal is a form.

Speaker 10

Of green, it's just a lighter shade of green, and you've just got to have a look at their voting pattern. Peter Dutton has got to make a very very decisive appeal to the Australian public one nation and made it very clear we're going to put labor on the Greens.

Speaker 2

Last we did it in the state and look at the.

Speaker 10

Result gave the Coalition here in Queensland, gave them majority government in their own right.

Speaker 2

We'll do the same thing in the federal sphere.

Speaker 10

All we asked the Australian people to do is vote for us, definitely in the lower House, but also in the Senate because we can rebalance things the Senate.

Speaker 2

That's the top part, because.

Speaker 10

At the present moment the Greens have got the balance of power and I'd hate to see the Coalition win government but then still have to negotiate with the Greens in the Senate to get anything past.

Speaker 2

That'd be chaotic.

Speaker 1

Linda, I'm just having a looking at the pendulum from the last election. There are ten seats that are four percent or under. Okay, so this is your marginal game. But as James just said, if you're going from fifty five to seventy six, you need a lot more than that, which of course means the hill gets higher and higher. Is that the assumption amongst labor people that it is just that the hill is just I get it. The numbers are terrible. The poles are all for this is

the bad news this and bad that. And you know Paul seems very excited at night, you know, for the hate watchers, but for Labor people is the assumption that the hill is just too high and can't be climbed by opposition.

Speaker 9

No, I don't think Labor or the Prime Minister to take anything for granted. They know that this election will be challenging and that the central question that Australians will be asking themselves is who will be the best leader to take me forward, to help with my cost of living pressures, to help make good policy decisions about the future of Australia. And we know that the Coalition have put out a range of policies nuclear energy, but not really off the ground until twenty fifty. How will that

believe people's cost of living? How will Peter Dutton and the Coalition make a difference to people's price pressures. We don't have any of those answers yet. Whether, of course, Labor's put so many policies on record, cheaper childcare, cheaper medicines, tax breaks, so many things that Labor have done to help ease people's cost of pressure, cost of living pressures, Paul.

So really this is going to be an election about you know, who do you trust to support you, to help you with your household budget and Australians are going to have to really focus hard on that question.

Speaker 1

Because I love you, i'man not hammer home the point. But go back to the star of the show. Everyone fifty nine percent do you agree with just lobor have your back? There's a lot there potentially for a lot of people to work with. I want to talk about it advance Australia, who we know talked a big game but didn't really sort of land the punch in the

Dunky by election. They of course were a little quieter, but had a big game when it came to the voice, got a major result and they've decided to absolutely go the Greens. This is part of a campaign that is up. It's up on their website if you want to go and overlook it. But more importantly I saw an ad for this on television as a pre roll and one of the on demand services earlier today. So it is not just the Internet. It is now breaking out of that and this is their attack on the Greens.

Speaker 4

The Greens Party is a party of hatred of Western civilization, which wants to destroy every tradition we've been built on.

Speaker 3

The Greens are refusing to condemn the vandalism of war memorials.

Speaker 1

Protesting painting is a form of speech. So Linda, I'm in tragued here about what they're trying to do here, right, because obviously the Tals are the ones who are standing in the way of the everyone has a right to do whatever. These are not Liberal owned seats and not one of those people. But mathematically, the Greens are not the problem for the right of politics getting where they want to go. So why is advanced going specifically in on the Greens rather than labor who is the main target.

Speaker 9

Well, look, I don't know what Advants are doing. They're not a group I tend to associated with Signal as

you can imagine. But look, I mean, I think it is correct to say that the Greens are a threat to the coalition, and I you know, again raised on this show last weekend the idea that Peter Dutton is going to have to answer to many Liberal voters who will want to understand why he was opposing the government's creation of an Environmental Protection Agency, why he was standing in the way of more protection for nature, why he's

opposing renewable energy projects. You know these are going to be increasingly difficult for Peter Dutton to answer Christmas week.

Speaker 1

I can't argue there's answers.

Speaker 9

For all of those, right, So I don't think it's correct to say that the Greens are not a threat just to they are a threat to both well, I.

Speaker 1

Was double checking. The Greens actually did win the seat of Brisbane off the Lips, so they didn't even sort of go via. There was a straight change, all right, quick break back with more including when is the losers? Not of the week, not of the month, but of the year? Send me emails pault skuydniws dot com dot A you and this week we're deciding where we're going to go with our town next to you, so putting in a bid for your part of Australia. We've seen

so many wonderful things done, incredible things. I drove a tram, all right, I've driven trams, tricks, you name it, trailers, bring your wife. You know the point, all right, Send me an email to OUTTOWND. It's guydis dot com dot au here with lovely Linda Scott and James Ashby. I will give them time for a little bit of a shout out and all of that in the moment or two's time, as well as their winner and loser of

the year. But firstly, just quickly, I want to get one in the year, which is some people in the restaurant game have turned around and said, look, the reason we've got to keep migration the way that it currently is is because people already in the country don't want to do the jobs that many people who come to the country are willing to do. James, is she right?

Speaker 2

Yeah, she is. I was at a restaurant last night in town here.

Speaker 10

They would be lost without their chefs that have come in from overseas. And as much as I hate saying that, it's just a fact and a reality, we've got farms across this country that will be in the same predicament.

Speaker 2

So yeah, it's a sad fact. Today. Unfortunately, we're at the highest.

Speaker 10

Levels of long term unemployment we've ever seen, and a lot of those people would be more than capable of doing some of these jobs, but they choose not to.

Speaker 1

All right, let us get to winners and losers of the year, lovely living Scott who stands out for you as a winner or loser of the year or both, got a little bit of time for once, it's not a rush.

Speaker 9

I want to put a marker in the ground Paul Murray and say, for twenty twenty five, I think you have the potential to be the winner of the year if you can grow with some mullets. So I want to put that marker off to mullet right in the ground right now, fair enough. But look, I do want to say it's been a tough year.

Speaker 1

I imagine the process of growing it on the one of.

Speaker 9

The lost flowing right be amazing, be amazing. And I do want to say, you know, it's been touching the cost of living. I was drawn knocking on Saturday around Sydney with my local member Tannia bleibisic cost of living very much on the front of people's minds and so I do want to give a shout out to the incredible charities. I do think they are the winners of

the year in my local patch. You know Christmas Day the Wayside Chapel, Reverend Bill Cruz, he's going to be out there again on Christmas, Oz Harvest donating so much food to people. So I want to say, non politically, the winner of the year of the charity and if you've got any little spare couple of dollars this Christmas is someone a gift of support for someone else, which.

Speaker 1

Is exactly the point. Starting tomorrow night, we're going to highlight charities that you might want to give some money to. If you're a person who runs an organization, they may not be nationally famous and might really help from you. The five thousand dollars collective donations we can get out of our audience again. Send me in my portsgunews dot com dot are you any loser for you? Linda, look's I've got one, Kamala Harris.

Speaker 9

Yeah, it's the end of my So I'm just going to be really diplomatic. Can I do one more shout out?

Speaker 1

Though? Don't you give me shape?

Speaker 9

Read Loon Croissant Bakery. She opened two stores in Sydney on a Saturday morning, one in Rosebury wunning mate.

Speaker 1

Well, I'll send me a box.

Speaker 9

Ques around the corner. People were queuing out there since like five point thirty in the morning to get one of her cross send the well done, can't wait to eat them.

Speaker 1

I will give the official pastry tick, but I think it's coming well recommended, all right, James Winter or Loser of the Year, and in a shoutdout if you'd like to give one before we're done.

Speaker 2

Well.

Speaker 10

Sadly, the greatest losers have been in the Australian public because of the financial predicament this government have put them in.

Speaker 2

And it's not just this government. It hasn't happened overnight. This has been both.

Speaker 10

Major parties, but unfortunately labor have to take ownership of the financial predicament.

Speaker 2

But also to those volumes of people that have been left homeless.

Speaker 10

It's been a tragic year to see so many people left without a roof over their head. I think a major shout out should go to my family and my partner for putting up with me throughout this whole election campaign this year.

Speaker 2

I think they're all glad it's done and dusted.

Speaker 10

But in particular a big shout out to the two and a half million small business people who I think have been overlooked this entire year. I think there's been so many other distractions and the small business people who really are the backbone of this country who hire the majority of people.

Speaker 2

They've been overlooked. And I know they're going to go through a.

Speaker 10

Hell of a Christmas period because you know, there isn't that much cash around and they're the ones that go to sleep every night with a lump in their throat wondering how they're going to pay their bills in order to make sure their staff are well paid and have a nice Merry Christmas. So big shout out to small business bloody.

Speaker 1

Oh, thank you guys. I do appreciate it obviously, All back next year. We'll be around for a long time to come. Sorry, haters, but we're going to be around for a long time to come. Thank you to both of you for the debates. Thank you for all the help on and off the ear. You guys are wonderful friends, beautiful people, and yeah, have a wonderful time with those that you love the most this holiday period. Merry Christmas to you, Merry Christmas to you to Linda. We'll see

you both again next year. All right. That's our Shafford and I will see you again tomorrow and night. If you want to send me an email about ourtown outown at sky Neiwes dot com. Dot au general stuff, paulatskynews dot com dot Are you follow me up if you want to be aware of what I'm doing growing the mullet over summer. Maybe Instagram at PM off air, that's our scheffe night. Looking forward to the Royal reports. See you're here tomorrow

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