From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you Shary. What a big notting is we have for you tonight.
But let's pause because World War II was the turning point of modern Western civilization. The capacity to defeat the Nazis in Europe and to defeat Imperial Japan in the Pacific set us up for the freedoms that we enjoy today. The generation that fought that war is the greatest that has walked amongst us. They were the people who went to parts of the world some had never heard of, to of course take on the most difficult of challenges, and way too many of them did not come back.
As we speak right now, it is nine o'clock in Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra and Brisbane. It is one pm right now in France, where the commemorations are taking place. This is the epicenter of a day of commemorations because it is eighty years ago today that the world was saved by the greatest generation of Australians, people from the UK, people from Canada, people from Australia, New Zealand, the United States, and so
many more. I live in eternal admiration for this generation to have been able to know them, love them, and be loved by them is one of the great privileges of all of our lives, if, of course, you have that family connection to World War II, like I assume almost everyone does. The D Day landings were, of course, the only way that the Allied forces had decided that it was to push back upon the Nazis who had
captured France. The excellent commentator at Sky News in the UK, who often provides the most exquisite detail during a royal parade or a coronation, has Linty's talents to explaining this moment in history eighty years ago.
Operation had been planned for months and thousands of troops gathered along the south coast of England waiting for the optimum conditions to launch the invasion. To ensure success, the Allies deployed a series of deception campaigns to fool the Nazis and deflect German resources from the real target, with
bombing raids carried out right across northern France. After a day's delay due to unfavorable weather conditions, Operation Neptune, the naval aspect of the invasion, began around midnight of the sixth of June an hour later, and the first British and American planes flew over, normally dropping around thirteen thousand paratroopers behind enemy lines and attacking key strategic German positions
from above. D Day had begun. Various problems in including navigation, communication and heavy enemy fire, meant that many of the paratroopers landed off course, leaving scores dead or missing. Attention then turned to the beach assaults. German military leaders were expecting an invasion, but they believe the attacks from the air were only an attempt to divert their attention before
an attack further up the coast near to Calais. The element of surprise helped tens of thousands of British troops to establish a foothold on beaches code named Gold and Sword. The Canadian forces themselves had another beach called Juno, and seventy three thousand Americans arrived in small landing craft on the westernmost beaches of Omaha and Utah.
It is an extraordinary moment in time, one that to MENI of us take for granted that it happened, that we've commemorated it, that we've marked it in the past, but we must ask ourselves about what future generations will know in detail of this time. I will never pretend to be a war historian. I, like many, learn what
we do from documentaries and reading this and that. But we still have amongst us the people who were there, including this man eighty years on, remembering what had happened to him and his fellow men, the last.
Thirty two of the Queen. They didn't make it hold.
And so I'm prefelling a promise to my love are going back and pan homage.
For his part, King Charles has spoken at the events which have been taking place this morning, their time, tonight, our time. Here is what the King had to say in respect of this greatest generation.
Those who gathered here in Portsmouth would never forget the sight. It was by far the largest military fleet the world has ever known. Yet all knew that both victory and failure were possible, and none could know their fate.
Of course, events on both sides of the English Channel for the most obvious reasons. Now today we learn of the role of an Australian. An Australian who was part of what happened eighty years ago and is part of what is happening today. His name is Jim and he was a World War II Veterani. He's a member of the Sandgate RSL in Bruceban and he's one of a very small number of World War II veterans that aged between ninety nine and one hundred and six that have
been invited to Normandy. His nephew, Robert Bass said that it was a fantastic thing to see him being given the recognition that he deserves. Though it's not known widely, around three thousand Australians participated in the D Day Landing, which of course took place in Normandy, France, on this day eighty years ago.
We are indebted for their service.
We are forever mournful for those who lost their lives, and we are for ever grateful for the country that they built when they came home, when they came home after defeating the Nazis and the Imperial Japanese. The countries that they built of Australia, New Zealand, the United States, the UK, Canada.
And so many more.
These are, in my view, some of the most special people that have ever walked the earth, and way too many of them left way too soon. As we would say in Australia. Less we forget an age will not weary them. But the reality is, of course, their number
things by the day, their service is extraordinary. Now, let's pair of the steel in the spine of that generation, of what they did during World War Two, and in the country that they built, that produced so many wonderful things, a modern safe country, a country that did not have to worry about the ravages of war, and a country that has now become so spoilt in its own safety and a times self indulgence and arrogance that the types of people who now rule our country are some of
the people that I want to talk about tonight. But I'm not going to talk about the Prime Minister, the Federal Parliament, the Premier, or the State Parliament. I'm going to talk about a local council. There's a local council that SIDY called the Inner West Council. It is one of the OsO Woke councils representing an OsO work area.
But that's not what I wanted to talk about. What I wanted to talk about was just how far from reality many of the things that we debate or obsess ourselves about, and compare that within a couple of generations to what is being spoken of right now in Normandy and on the other side of the channel in the UK, there was a motion last night at the Inner West Council for all people who are on the council and all people who are significant people who work at the
council to use their real names, not aliases when they post on official websites of the council. That's how far far we're fallham that firstly, this is what we debate in our chambers, but more importantly that it is needed to that people are so cowardly that they do not use their own name when arguing their point on the internet. And these are the people who are elected to lead us.
The bloke that you've just seen is the councilor who suggested everyone should be not hiding behind anonymous titles on the internet. He tried to pass a rule that specifies that counselors should not use aliases when they are administrators or commenting on community Facebook groups.
Oh how far we have fallen. But guess what.
It was defeated almost unanimously. So not only do we have the stupidity of that, that was what was being debated in a Council Chamber in Australia that the group of people who also were on that council did not agree that you should not be anonymous when you are commenting on community Facebook pages. Now, I know that to compare anything to what we opened the show with is unfair, but jeez, what an example of how far we have fallen as a people and our priorities and the way
we carry ourselves in public. Everyone on that council should be ashamed of themselves, firstly for voting it down. Secondly, if they are hiding behind anonymity, they have no courage whatsoever.
Yet they rule like kings and queens.
Getting off on telling us what they do each and every day, getting off on the power of how many bins you can have and.
What day they get picked up.
Committed to decolonizing the world, as if there was no Second World War, as if there was no imperial Japan that would have invaded Australia and did with Darwin, as if there was not the Nazis who took Europe and almost the United Kingdom. There are so many people that are just not serious. That's not a common ond whether people are smart or not. Because I don't pretend to be some professor of anything. I'm a bloke with a reasonable vocabulary who's able to remember quite a few things
and put them to you each and every night. I pretend to be nothing other than what I am. But the people who seek to rule us, compared to those that have gone before, they are nothing. Yet they have seemingly more power than ever before. And another example about governments that aren't serious, and yeah, we're going to the
federal level here. Yesterday I'm in arm everyone United, pointing at the Greens about how crazy they had gone in part in the support of protests, which, let's be honest, many of them actually mask themselves as being pro the innocent Palestinians. But scratch not too far under the surface and we start getting to people like that one that was expelled today from the Australian National University, who was all in on Hamas.
Again.
Yesterday arm in arm was the Prime Minister in Peter Dutton admonishing the Greens.
It is unacceptable that misinformation has been consciously and deliberately spread by some Green senators and mpce. He have engaged in this in demonstrations outside offices and online.
We stand as one in this chamber, or we should stand as one to make sure that we condemned the unacceptable levels of antisemitism that we see playing out on our streets.
It has no place, and we.
Will take everything, every action we need as a chamber to make sure that we condemn those acts of antisemitism in our country. And the Greens political party today is properly and rightly condemned.
Now in part one of the ways that the Greens have been able to or at least the supporters of the Greens, we should say, have been showing their muscle or lack thereof, is in the process which had been taking place at universities. Remember we've shown you plenty of times, which does not show that the Greens are automatically evolved.
But remember the one in Brisbane particular, when they were using the core flutes from the Greens the election posters, and on the other side was where they were writing some of the things they were saying at the protests. Well, of course, these university protests, this is all the sort of you know, anti Vietnam style thing wrapped up in a twenty first century bunch of people who you know, have no courage in the world. Instead, they're just doing
it for the clicks. Their hunger stripe in the US lasted what.
Half a day? Anyway, you know the stuff they say, thank you, it's Chris Kenny.
You're the name, right, But there's no need to call me a creep.
The Antacs played a major role in the violence that establish British mandate Palestine.
Back to the stuff we were mentioning before, that's this weird new left right now, there are very good and very decent people who understand the extremes of what is taking place, who understand that to criticize the Israeli government is not to criticize the state of Israel, who believe that things have gone too far in Gaza. But none of those people are involved in these protests. None of these people are the ones who turn on students who
again are Jewish in Australia. They're not the Prime Minister of Israel, They're not part of any government anywhere. They are people amongst us who deserve to be free to practice their religion, and yes, in a world of free speech,
believe what they believe. But when it starts turning to where it has of recent months, well we all know what's going on here, But literally twenty four hours ago the Prime Minister was all waving fingers and carrying on about the Greens and about their role in things, and about how important it was to make sure that any
sort of racial or religious discrimination was not acceptable in Australia. Well, when it comes to the question of the Greens and their obvious views that are not in the mainstream, there was an opportunity to have an inquiry. It was quite an inquiry into the madness on campus. But Labour turned around and voted it down. So yesterday, look at us, let's go after the real problem that in part is directly funded by the Australian government. No, those people are
going to vote Green and they preference Labor. They're going to vote Labor. Need them to stay in power. Also interesting too, when the Labor Party was asked directly today, will you now put the Greens where they deserve to go, which is last on the ballot paper?
Here's the question, will the Prime mister commit to preferencing Grand candidates last in every elector of the next election.
Prime Minister's answer.
You've hinted in your ruling there what my answer will be, mister Speaker, which is that those matters are all matters for the organization of the party.
This is that we went through.
But we won't be We won't certainly won't be taking elections lectures from the mob who want to preference one nation.
Now, I'm sure that somebody will take three days write a thousand words in the Guardian to this question, but do you really think that one nation is worse than the Greens?
Now?
I understand that there are political parties that they would not want to give their preferences to. So okay, let's go Green's last, one nation, second last, all the other way around.
But let's not, in terms of Labor.
Send preferences to the very people who are going to take Australian politics to the far left. Before paul In and everyone else gets annoyed with me. I'm not suggesting you should put one nation last. I'm talking about to the bosses of the Labor Party. And then, of course, after this next election, if the polls are right, we're going to be in a minority scenario. So can the government right now say they will not play any games post minority with the Greens.
My question is to the Prime Minister, Prime Minister. Given the anti submitted conduct of the Greens political party and the Prime Minister's justified condemnation of them yesterday, will the Prime Minister rule out governing with the support of the Greens.
Are your reckon happens now?
I'm reminded of their Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and what the meaning of life is in this case, the meaning of life is seventy eight, which is how many members that we have.
Over this side.
We seek majority government, I said very clearly and consistently. Safe consists oh.
A bloke who claims to hate the Greens but needs them to exist in order to get anywhere near seventy six, which is the majority, let alone seventy eight, which is.
What they have.
Seventy seats that Labor hold in the Parliament come with Green preferences, so spare me any garbage. And it was proven within twenty four hours when they had a chance to have an inquiry into what's been happening in the university campus say oh no, no, this is all just a pantomime. It wouldn't actually want to expose the behavior.
For his part, Adam Bant was running around threatening to call in the lawyers because of things that had been said, which of course has a chilling effect on anyone criticizing the Greens madness. Now, obviously, last year we spend four hundred and fifty million dollars to go yes or no about whether there should be a change to the Constitution.
The polls went from sixty forty yes to sixty forty hell no. And there were many big companies who decided to go all in because of course they're morally better than you. They're morally better than the majority of people in Western Australia, South Australia, Tasmania, the New South Wales, Victoria, the Northern Territory, Queensland. They are the moral equal of people in the Act who, by the way, this week of poll came and said seventy seven percent of them said that immigration was too high.
But whatever, they're better than us.
But there was obviously a moment where the companies were over here, but the public was over there, something noticed by the No campaign, who of course was able to win the public over with much less money and much less corporate support.
And this whole process lately with the corporates, for instance, like what the hell have the corporates got to do with what we want to do as Aboriginal people and what we want to do and celebrate in that.
So have companies learned their lesson answer no at a conference today, an ESG conference, So of course it's all the yeah man's. The companies have said that they are undeterred by the failure of the Voice referend and put simply that they will continue to use their capital to keep pushing political causes. And when the money's gone woke, it's hard to defeat it, which is why you're not given the opportunity of a plebiscite or a referendum that regularly.
Instead you get your vote every three years if the Prime Minister had his way every four years. And the issue that they completely screwed you over two years ago you've completely forgotten about because look over here, look over here, Well there was a fascinating little thing that happened in the new South Wales Parliament and be under parliamentary privilege,
I can play this for you. But a National MP for Parks, Mark Coulton is his name, has come forward and made an allegation that somebody who should otherwise be working and an organization working helping indigenous people and that part of New South Wales has had their funding cup and they are no longer part of the efforts in that part of New South Wales. Why because they didn't come out and support the yes case again Parliamentary privilege, Mark Colton Parks MP have a look at this.
Clearly Ready has a mindset of local solutions driven by local people and they were not supportive of a Canberra based group of people that they felt would not represent their issues. Mind you, eighty percent of my electorate felt the same way, including many of the people that Ready helps.
Now my apologies, Federal Parliament got to be going on tonight. He goes on to.
Talk about how he believes that this organization has been essentially sidelined again because of the politics and the fallout of the Voice.
I feel that the Regional Enterprise Development Institute and all the people that they support are going to be victimized.
Because of a position that they took in a democratic country where we have freedom of choice, where the Aboriginal people in that organization decided they would rather manage their issues more locally and did not support that.
It's his allegation that people there's a bit of revenge being played here by the industry against those who were not with the vibe of the industry. Instead, they were with the extreme majority of people in the seat of Parks and with the majority of people in the majority of states. In fact, everywhere bar the Act.
Oh, I've got some good news for you.
Stephen Miles, the Queensland premier, seen here trying to rustle up votes and people just walking.
Straight past him.
Well, a union spent a fair amount of money trying to put an opinion poll out this week. We mentioned it to make it seem like, Oh, things are not as bad as they seem when it comes to the polling for the upcoming Queensland election. Well, reality has now struck because Channel nine last night had an exclusive new polling, and this one shows Queensland is ready to get rid of this horrific government.
Nine News has obtained exclusive new polling showing the Stephen Miles governments facing a wipeout at the state election. The polling is the worst result for Labor since it came to power in twenty fifteen, with their primary vote and support for Stephen Miles plunging plunging.
I wish I could do that news rhythm. The Miles government is in a serious amount of trouble.
Okay, just talk, but fair enough anyway, Please let's get to the poll.
How bad are they doing.
LNP now in front fifty seven to forty three on a two party preferred basis.
As for the premier.
Voters are also backing in David christ Iphoollyer's leader, with a net favorability rating of plus fourteen compared to the current premier, who rates negative eleven.
Oh, that would be really unfair. That said, you got to maintain the rage, you got to maintain the focus.
You've got to tell.
Yourself neighbors, friends, family, doesn't matter how much money they offer you. They're trying to buy you off with the power bill thing and the trains thing. They'll come up with a whole bunch of other ones. They'll try to come up with every scare between now and then. But thankfully the people of Queensland, when they turn you off.
You're done. That's why I love Queenslanders. Their BS detector finally tuned.
It hasn't been great with this government, I must be honest. They should have gone last time. But I'm pleased to say that it's the detector is in the right direction. Let's make sure that it keeps going that way all the way till the end of the year. About October, looking forward to it. Oh, let's talk about Channel nine and their boss, Peter Costello.
Well, as you.
Know, there's been a few stories over the past few weeks about her rather full on and bloky culture. That's the polite way of putting things. The former Treasurer of Australia has been sitting pretty as the chairman of nine for a long period of time. Powerful man knows how to pick up a phone and make things happen.
All the rest of it. Well, of course he's decided to back in a CEO.
Who, by his own admission, has presided over not the best of working conditions for many women inside that organization. Of course, it all links back to the former news boss. You know the story, you know the details. Well, Petter Costello has not spoken about the role of the chairman about which member of the board knew about things that
were going on. So, as you may will have heard by now, a reporter from the Australian newspaper went to Canberra Airport to try to ask him the questions he was ignored.
And then this happened.
Well, you've got to answer the questions, mister Costello.
What now?
This is serious because there is a reporter who has been injured, the equipment has been damaged. But this is the guy who used to be the Treasurer of Australia. This is the bloke who is the tippy top of an organization which has got its problems right now. And a bloke who didn't stop after the reporter got bowled over.
After the state of Origin style leaning. He didn't stop.
He just kept going why because it's just News Corp Road killed behind him.
Presumably he even laughed.
Thankfully, there were some people who had seen with their own eyes what had happened, because inevitably there was going to be a whole collection of people in the media that were going to turn around and say that nothing happened here, There was no contact whatsoever. Something magically tripped the bloke over instead with their own words what they saw with their own eyes.
On me, because I'm trying to So you saw you saw that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
He like pitting about here. I don't know, wats your fall over there?
I was just said, I'm going to spoke on the phone.
Okay, yeah, yeah, I just saw it'd been shacking up.
What was that about?
Oh sorry, so obviously said something that I'm.
Just asking questions about the Mike Sneezebe thing.
So I'm on from the Australian and yeah, I thought like he's trying to he was trying to say that I walked into there, but.
I don't know. Yeah, yeah, so I saw that. Yeah, Earth, we saw it.
Now, no doubt somebody is going to be studying CCTV footage like the Zabruta film in the next twenty four hours is away of somehow pretending that it was the reporter's fault. But come on, you saw what you saw. You saw the obvious contact. You saw no attempt to get out of the way, you saw no attempt to pull back. Instead, of course, you saw the moving forward. For his part, Petter Costello knows he's in a world
of pain. So he was in Canberra tonight to open up a new facility that his company has at Parliament House, and while he was there, a collection of reporters decided to confront him. Notice the very careful language he uses here.
When I came through Camberra Airport.
There was a reporter walking backwards with his phone filming. As I walked past him, he walked back into an advertising play card and he fell over. I did not strike him. If he's upset about that, I'm sorry, but I did not strike him.
Nobody said strike.
I can't wait to see somebody produced the four hundred thousand words to say nothing to see here. Your lion eyes have been lying to you yet again now. Also, it was interesting that when he made those comments in Canberra, not one person actually asked the question that were being asked of him at the airport about who knew what and when and what responsibility will or won't be taken. Now again, if you don't want to answer questions, you
don't have to win Australia. But the idea that you just ignore the person answer asking you the questions rather than you said, look, man, i'm not going to say anything.
Okay, sorry, I'm not going to say anything.
And then if you see something that's getting close to some level of a confrontation, either.
The bloke backing in or you leaning in, then you get out of the way. But that didn't happen, did it.
But of course I guarantee by the time this is dissected, it'll be.
Your eyes that were lying, as opposed to.
Some of the things that may will be said about this incident in the coming days.
All right. And finally, Nigel Farajau dear friend.
We are going to talk to him at some point in time when he's back in London, but he's actually going to is all over the country.
Of course, as the new leader of the Reform Party.
Now, his idea here is to basically take existing Tory seats and turn them into Reform seats. This is essentially the right wing, the Boris Johnson wing, and a little further of the Conservative Party, dropping Team Blue and picking up Team Teal, which ironically is the color of Nigel Faraja's Reform Party. There Well, Pole comes out last night that this is getting close. Now, remember they have a first past the post system in the UK, so labor Well at forty percent wins a whole bunch of seats.
The Conservatives obviously would be higher than nineteen percent in certain places, but Reform is right on their heels at seventeen percent. In response, Niger Ferras Sa is just getting started now, I'll be honest, I was not going to pay too much attention to the UK election because it's
a foregone conclusion that Labour's going to win. But now it's interesting, will people say, bugger the Tories, I'm going with Nigel and then that is what becomes the opposition or the first part of the post system means it's Nigel and a couple of others that make it through to the part. We'll all wait, we'll all see, we'll all learn together. Thanks for watching big one here tonight.
Let's get into it.
Tell me who do you think the winner and loser of the week. I think the chairman of a certain company might make the list tonight BNU sec Ah how Good's Thursday Ladies Night, this evening and two are the best Join us, of course, none other than one for Christy McSweeney joining us from Melbourne and the equally lovely Lisa god Are joining us from Brisbane.
All right, ladies.
The incident of utter blokiness, that is the former treasurer, the chairman of the Nine network ignoring doing it, trying to be passive aggressive and then seemingly outright aggressive when it comes to questioning from the Australians Reporter in Canberra.
Lisa, again, it is.
Everyone's right to not answer questions, and it's a public space, which means it's every reporter's right to go and ask the questions. But wouldn't you either just stop and say, mate, I'm not going to talk about this, or if you saw the reporter getting anywhere near like if his version of events is to be believed and I don't, which is the he tripped over even after it happened, wouldn't you go maybe you okay?
Instead Bank kept going with a little giggle.
As well, Yeah, look, he knows completely how the media cycle works. And look, when you're doing media training, it's the one to oh one of teaching executives and anyone who's in the public eye. How do you manage what is called a doorstopol I worked for a current affair, I worked for Today tonight. That what you saw tonight a doorstop, bounced the unscheduled and bushed interview. Politicians, especially if Peter Costello's vintage, are absolutely aware of how they
should manage that sort of situation. You're right, it was a public space. The journalists had every right to be asking the questions, and he should have managed it much better. And now to turn around now and think that what you're seeing in that vision isn't exactly what happened, Well, I think this has a long way.
To play out.
And as you say, the stories and the headlines that have been coming out about Channel nine in the past week or so, it does nothing to stand for the culture and the way that you should be treating people. It's got a long way to run.
I think again, as I said, I understand the adversarial nature of a lot of different things and all the currents and subcurrents and all the rest of it. Right, but even if somebody was coming at me, who I wasn't a particular fan of, if I saw that they had been in any level of physical pain, you'd stop and so made a uoka instead keep going. That's the issue to me, that's sort of you know, where we start to get into what's really underlying a lot of what we've been seeing tonight.
Well, it's not great footage. Certainly, it's not great footage for Channel nine to have this enter the media cycle as well. On top of the fact that they are fighting, there's media cycle around what are they going to do with their CEO? And that is They've got two stories out there now, almost guaranteeing mass coverage for nine on two separate issues. The Treasurer, the former Treasurer of Australia. How many do we have to talk about this week? Is Well knows what it's like to go to Canberra
Airport and b doorstop by journalists. He has done that, probably more times than he could count. I think it sounds like a lapse of judgment from him. He's forgotten where he perhaps is for a moment. This is Cambra. You're the chairman of Channel nine and your companies under siege. Of course there are going to be journalists said to
ask you questions. You're attending a well publicized event, and it doesn't take a lot to figure out that he may be on a flight from Melbourne coming into Camber this evening.
Well, we're on our way to what twenty one minutes away from ten o'clock at night in the East Coast. Current headline on the CIDY Morning Held's website is quote you assaulted me nine check Costello appears to shove journalists to the ground with video of the particular incident. Let's see how long that headline stays the way that it currently does, or whether it gets a little bit.
Of in how shimmy, we'll all see and learn.
To All right, let's talk about companies and again on the other side of what that company was doing today, which was that the Financial Review with its ZSG conference and basically a whole bunch of big companies double down and say no lesson learned from the voice Christy again, we've got to this place now where capital has gone woke, where money has gone woke, where the banks, where the big financial institutions have now flipped basically from the center
right to now. I would argue the center left, maybe at times a little further out. And of course once the money flips, well or a power comes with that. Do you think that even at an ESG conference, that some of these companies should be aware that part of their advocacy actually sort of annoyed people rather than told us what the company cared about.
Well, they certainly doubled down, didn't they. There was some quite a nuance language, I thought from the superannuation funds, which was very very interesting given that super fun largely industry superfunds and largely union controlled. They said, we're only going to weigh into issues that affect our operations, which is people's decisions around financial services and superanuation. Whereas Westpac doubled down and said we're not going to stop and
in fact gave everybody a lecture on reconciliation. It's not a public policy forum, it's an ESG forum and attended by non academics or not indigenous organizations certainly, but people from banks. So I thought that was best inappropriate, at worst wildly off topic.
Yeah, it's this thing, Lisa Aware.
I constantly think about this when we go to regional Australia, right, is that I would like to see if major companies want to care about what's happening in indigenous communities, go to them, like have your big conferences and your team building meetings and all the rest of it. And I'm not talking about inviting you know, one local person in
for the smoking ceremony. I'm saying about, Okay, go and interact, go and help, Go and donate time, Go and donate part of the proceeds of your business to something happening on the front lines. Instead, it all sort of happens inside, you know, the shiny towers of Sydney Melbourne and Brisbane,
where it's all about advocacy, advocacy, advocacy. I'd like to go to Alice Springs one night, see what's going on and then work out how their business can do the one percent thing that might make things one percent better than Alice Springs.
Look, I think corporate Australia do do their part as far as donating into local communities and trying to buy local and support local. But what I sort of the rub for me in reading this tonight was looking at the Westpac boss sitting there, as you saying, in an ivory tower at a very elite conference and saying, well, what is happening with the Indigenousustralians?
So you know, for so long we saw.
Them lecturing us and pushing the voice. But where are they now? What are they doing now to actually try and change that dollar rather than just sit there and try and gain sort of ESG points for it. So that's I think where most of the strains will look at that and look back, Paul, when we were talking about this in October last year and the months and months before that, everybody was looking what was happening in
the Northern Territory, What was happening indigenous communities. When was the last time you saw it on the front page of any publication?
Great point, very good point, very good point.
All right, Bill Shorten. So apparently the riumor running around is not only are we headed towards this reshuffle where losers like the Immigration Minister get moved around, but apparently there is a plan to try to make him Bill Shorten, the former Labor leader and of course therefore thorn in the side of albow, to try to get him out of the Parliament and send him off to the embassy
in France. Now we know that politicians have done this before, but generally speaking, the dynamic has not been one where the person that's being removed is still sort of the head of a certain section of the caucus, the Cabinet and all the rest of it. It's about as subtle as a sledgehammer. But that's the way this Prime Minister can be at times.
Christie.
Of course everyone will deny it, everyone will say there's nothing to see here. But didn't they say that about Kevin Rudd.
The difference is, I think Kevin Brad desperately wanted that job. I think there's one job that Bill Shorten wants and it is exceedingly clear his performance this week on the NDS issues. He is out ranking the Prime Minister and Jim Chalmers, another right faction upcomer a one hundred to one on performance and being across his brief and actually
giving some gravitas and credibility to the Labor cabinet. And I think of all the cabinet ministers, he is perhaps the only one who has identified areas of economic reform, which is to reduce the spending of the NDS and get it down to a percentage that's manageable, it will still be too high, go to war with the States and try and bring a balance in public policy but also economically to the n DIS. I can't think of another Labor cabinet minister who has actually done that in
their portfolio. Does he want to leave the front bench at this point? If I was looking at the Prime Minister's performance, I would think maybe it's not time for me to go.
Yet the Labor Party.
Look, I think the way the Labor Party works now it's way more to the left. He's had two elections. I don't think he gets another shot at it. Ever, one of us will the tape will prove us right or wrong a little further down the future, Lisa, your thoughts.
I think it's a rewir to a very nasty media cycle talking about the six hundred thousand dollars thunders.
Of speech writer. Thank you.
I think it was a very smart moviea strategy to start putting that rumor back out there again. It certainly shifted the headlines.
Yeah, of course, surprise, surprise.
It's almost like that's the whole point of what they do, rather than actually focusing in taking care of the real issues.
All right, quick break back with more.
Can you find out from the ladies who they think is the wwitter and loser of the week. Your thoughts jump on the Facebook page or of course send me an email. Paul at skynews dot com dot Au Late debate fifteen from now. So much to talk about here this Thursday, and I don't forget it. Of course we're
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extra stuff behind the Josh Fridenberg documentary. It's although at skynies dot com dot au. So Lisa got he with Christy McSweeney. Let's get into a couple of things, including, oh, the idea that a council in the twenty first century is dealing with something.
As ridiculous as this, because obviously it's an.
Issue where a council was asked to vote on a rule to make sure that the councilors and the key people who work for the council don't hide behind their computers and pretend to be anonymous on community Facebook groups. The council voted against it, So firstly the motion seems weird, but then when they vote against the motion, that's even weirder. Now again, Rhodes rates rubbish, all the rest of them,
we're all going to agree on it. But Lisa, what does that say about that particular council that you wouldn't just completely agree. No one's hiding behind fake profiles on the Internet.
Do you let me think you don't need to be Sherlock Holmes, I don't need to figure out there's just the odd one or two, you know, fake accounts out. They're putting out comments into community groups and pushing personal agendas that they don't want their names associated with. Look, we are so against the keyboard corwards who sit there and troll people in communities and aren't brave enough to put their face and their proper name out on these accounts.
You would expect that counselors wouldn't have to hide behind some pretend account to go out there and push their political agenda. I just think, yeah, it should not have been voted down. Good only for offering it up.
Well, and that's it. And Christy but they would freely agree, yeah, of course, yeah.
Cool, cold, no, no, no, no, just talking about hiding and plain sight when everyone but and it's interesting about the way.
That hyper local news works.
Right, So we have big national conversations in state and all the rest of it, right, but these sort of the community Facebook group really is where a lot of things get fought out, and often if you're in those things.
I'm not, But if you're in those things.
You can get a real taste of where the politics is going to go, but also how people are trying to agitate for your area to be exactly the opposite of what it is, or to go go back to the eighties and why can't I be the way it used to be? Those things get a bit wild. Are you in any Christie under a non deplume?
No?
Look, Paul, once you run for federal parliament, you have no reason to hide anymore because your whole life and everything you believe in and everything you've ever said is on the Internet. So I'm very happy to put my name and my face to any opinions.
That I have.
I am on a community Facebook group in a small town of four thousand people where I grew up in Western Australia, and one day I will write the Great Australian Novel from the transcripts of it, because it is incredible. Who would disagree that if you are representing constituents on a community Facebook board or site or group, that you would not declare yourselves as a representative of those constituents. Don't We call that cat fishing?
Very good point now, Christine, feel free. I give you full an absolute authority to say no comment.
Paul, what's the weirdest question that you get asked while you're going.
Through the application process of running for federal parliament, when.
They're trying to weed out people who've got something in their history or something that's a bit controversial, or what's the one question you went you're really going to like, there's no problem here, but you're really going to ask me that?
Well, they ask if you've been jailed, and I'm thinking, well, if you're nominating for pre selection of a major party, if you have to ask me that question by the time I'm at the point of filling out the form, there's something going wrong here with our processes. But of course both major parties have demonstrated that there probably is a lot wrong with their vetting processes, so on one hand, perhaps people couldn't be surprised that question is actually asked.
Well again, Lisa, question without notice? You know with a dony media, wonderful organization, do you.
Have a question without notices?
Yeah, you know.
Nothing else, it's only live on telling you what can possibly be cut out of context on the internet. Here is there is there a filtering process when you go looking for employees where you sort of ask some weird question, a little a little special personality test question about their past.
We have a very interesting picture in our office where it's a clock on the wall and the clock of the hands and the clock have stopped. And it's quite interesting to ask the future interns or young staff members what does that mean to you? Because it's interesting that some of them are like, you know, I'm a clock watch, or I have to be a clock watch, or ho do you It's an interesting little psychological ortry.
Clever.
I like that, that's very clever. Or they just go, what's the little hand for you know, which.
Is probably what many you reativity And there's the door. It's like we have lad, I'm done, all right, Let's go to witness and Losers of the week. Christy, who stands out for you.
A merely a Haimer clear winner of this week. The former treasurer out of Australia, the former member for Kuyong, has scuttled off yet again for the third time, into the background, allowing Amelia to do the job for which she is pre selecting for until at least October.
Yeah, I'm with you, but as I said to Josh Sam, it's fine, go make the money. Come back in a couple of years, there'll be a spot for you at some point. But let's see what happens at MKU on which that redistribution has made it slightly more liberal.
All right for you, Lisa.
I think loser would have to be the Jewish community. They would have watched what happened in Parliament today and just felt like they've just been hit again. And you know, yeah, they're the losers of the week. And I have to say a winner. Well, today is queenslanda I'm wearing the wrong color, but it is Queensland Day, one hundred and sixty five years since we gained independence from Juday.
I want to become a Queensland Okay. I don't know what I'm going to do. What the tests? Can you figure this out? This has to be the project, all right. I will do anything to do it, all right, Oh that's dangerous, almost anything to do it. Thank you, mate, appreciated. That's actually not just for tonight, but for the week. Have a great weekend, Go Tigers, Go Yankees, and we'll see you again on Sunday night.
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