Paul Murray Live | 5 February

And how willin put him back in his corner? And the wonderful Meghan Kelly about all things to do in the United States, including some of the big changes that maybe don't make the news here in Australia but are really important to talk about now. As always most important country in the world, ours, let's talk about it. The cleanup operation begins now in Queensland after the floods now not all over, not everyone out of the woods yet, but a little respite with things, meaning that the Premier

was in Ingham today. Ingham, of course, the town that is between Keynes of the north Townsville in the south. All of it right up into the north of our car. Here is what David Crucifoley had to say while inspecting what mother nature has brought over the past few days. And next focus is the power. We've got to get permanent power.

flow of excavations. But more importantly he was there helping our crew tell the story of his mates in that city. So to Joey, to his beautiful daughter and everyone else who is very kind when our reporters, our camera crews go out into real Australia, thank you so much. You help tell the stories better than any reporter can. Lauren and her team thank you, and certainly I thank you and Joey. I look forward to one day finding a

way to meet you. I'll certainly give you a call to morrow to say thank you for everything you did for our team today. Strength and love to everyone who was involved in what has been taking place in our north Now, as we know, the Prime Minister is a handsome little boy when it comes to his very cozy relationship with the Chinese Communist Party leader Xi Jinping. And

we know why because there's votes in it. You see, if you stand up to China, the message goes back and people who might be getting the information through we chat or something else, will they change their vote. In fact, communities who voted in twenty nineteen, twenty sixteen, twenty and thirteen twenty ten liberal all decided in one election, all at the same time for one particular reason.

at the election. All of that affected by a significant amount of people who speak Mandarin and home and they're changing their vote now, as you know, standing up to China, which results in will ban this and will punish you that, and will sort of put metaphorically your head on the spike and we'll make sure that we wave it around the village.

all common sense, started in a lab in China. The consequences nothing, nothing to see here, because you see, China, apart from its financial power, has found a way to get into the hearts and minds of millions of people around the world via the social media app TikTok, a Chinese surveillance app, so much so that the American government has said that they would shut it down unless the American version of it is sold off because their servers

are in China. Of course, they serve nothing but intellectual garbage to the Western world, while the kids having their version of it in China. It's all about being the best student you possibly can. So the Australian government decided to ban TikTok. You can't use it in Parliament House, you can't use it on an MP's computer. Why, you know,

the national security stuff. But because all the kids are on it and they don't care what's happening to their data, and they don't care who's got access to their microphone, their keystrokes or their camera, because isn't thet aren't the cat videos fund?

by the government. But the people who make up the government, they use the device to say garbage like this.

The idea that Peter Dunton has is that if you are in small business and you would like to have a meeting with someone who is one of your suppliers or somebody who helps you out. You would be able to potentially write off, say palm me at the pub off your tax. That's it. But this garbage that anyway, I'll do that another night. But I'm not just stry from the main point here, back to TikTok, back to China,

back to the double standard. And even though the app is banned from use by a phone that an MP owns, they are still posting to the app from inside Parliament House. This is a Cabinet minister doing that.

already been created by other companies, chiefly America about artificial intelligence. Now, for those who have not jumped onto Chat, GPT or all of the other things that are around, we haven't downloaded the latest version of something to your Apple software. So maybe all of this doesn't quite mean much to you. Think of something that is somewhere between Google, where you ask it for information and it goes back and collects some of it for you or writes it up for

you in a little report. And also Facebook where you upload the images and then Facebook is allowed to sell the images to advertisers. They're able to sell your direct messages. None of that's private, by the way, just so you know, if it's free on the Internet, you're the customer. But unlike the American situation where it is the private companies that have the information, the Chinese companies, well, the Chinese government has full access to everything that the data is providing.

So it means they're able to know an awful lot about you in the fine print that nobody reads when you download these apps. Again, that every single keystroke that you make on your mobile phone or your computer, that has this downloaded to it, even if they are not associated with the app at the time you are using it, So say an email or a text or anything you do on these devices is recorded by things like like deep Seek, like TikTok, and it is available to the

Chinese government. If you're call with that, If you think that's a good trade off for dancing videos, good luck to you. I don't. And today our federal government turned around and said that they agree as well, because the announcement was made today that deep Seek is now banned from just like TikTok, all of the government computers in all of Australia, the Defense Force, the tax offers, the Federal Police, an MP's office in your suburb, all the

way through to everything in Parliament House. In part this is why. And guess what.

at a barbecue fifteen minutes earlier. You want to hand that full surveillance power over to the Chinese government in exchange for dancing videos, Well, good luck to you. But both of these technologies of course should be banned. But just like any major company that gets too big, it's going to be ruled too big to take on. So we have a scenario where the federal government knows what the dangers are so much so that the federal government will not allow any access to these devices on anything

that could potentially threaten the federal government. But they're completely cool with the citizens of Australia being exposed to the same security dangers that are deemed too significant and therefore are banned for the Australian government. We would not cop this in any other area. If the federal government knew that there was asbestos in the offices of a federal government department, but they didn't tell the rest of the community that they got rid of all of the asbestos.

But we won't tell you about the asbestos at your house. People would freak out. But because it's too popular, you couldn't possibly shut it down because it will displease a government that has got its hooks into too many people in business, to many people in academia, because it has an ability to distort the news information source of key voters in key electorates. They'll just let you lick the asbestos.

This is not a game. But if the federal government is freaked out about it so much so that it's banned, why not banned for everyone. We have the capacity in Australia to turn around and say that certain URLs are just not available now. As a person who has spoken quite seriously about censoring the Internet before, I'm very aware of the fine line here. But if the back end of a website that is made somewhere else is about hoovering up your data and your information to a potential

adversarial power. You wouldn't let it happen, right, So why are they letting it happen apart from the Chinese sending the message that we always knew that they would stand up to us and will change a government. So the people who claim to be in it for you and I, of course guess what are not in it for you and I. They're in it for covering their own backside. They're willing to do so with their own data, but

they don't care about yours. And even when they ban it from every computer in Parliament House, they still use the Chinese software to upload their cute little videos, hoping that people of a certain age will somehow connect with them because they're on the top and everyone else is not. Which brings me to another little thing that I'm going to keep an eye on here, which is with a couple of weeks to go of parliament. Now, it all

depends on when the election is called. But Parliament is this week, Parliament is next week, then there's a break, then there's another week of Parliament and then presumably we're getting pretty close to when they're going to call an election. Today, the Australian Federal Government decided to make a rather interesting announcement. It follows their announcement that they made a couple of years ago, which was that they were going to find

social media companies for misinformation. Now, remember that legislation was so toxic, so terrible, that I made it very clear that people wouldn't copy it, and we ended up on the right side of history because they decided to abandon it. But guess what, everything old is new again? With the clock now ticking on the final two weeks of parliament, is there a way that vast swathes of what they

plan is about to come back, but under another form? Now, of course, just like I'm suggest about deep Seek, much of the truly offensive material that apparently they're going to be going after and apparently finding people for if it is actually available on the Internet, is garbage that I

would want blocked out the borders, no question. But today, after a review or review of course that they picked knowing what the outcome would be, brand new laws are going to be put in place to go after the very same companies that they wanted to go after for misinformation, but this time they claim they want to go after it for not just things like online hate, but also plenty of things to do with online abuse and sexual assault. Now I hope all of that, all of that gets banned,

no question. But watch this space. It will be fascinating to see that. When the actual bill is presented, I'm going to compare letter by letter, line by line, and sentence by sentence, and let's see just how many of the things that they wanted to introduced but they decided not to, they'll be able to introduce via a backdoor, where of course the headline will be that if the opposition does not vote for this, then somehow they are voting in favor of child pornography. Watch this space. I

certainly know that I am to Virgin Australia. Now I say our mates because I enjoy flying with them. I've never had anything but a wonderful experience with them. They're always very kind to me, and I have never hidden that. I like the idea of the startup, the person who is challenging the company that is the dominant one, and one that of course we all know at times a little too close to government.

in place. Now, again, workers have every right to have an opinion about their boss, but this would be rather unique and weird scenario if the union is going to basically demand that the person who may well end up being the CEO is not going to be the CEO

because they don't like the potential CEO. The powerful Transport Workers Union says it will withdraw support for Virgin Australia's plans to use Qatar Airways planes and its cruz if the private equity controlled airline appoints the former Quantus executive

Paul Jones as a chief executive. But nothing surprising there or why are you talking about it on the telly Because unbelievably a federal government minister is trying to tell a publicly listed company who they should or should not choose to be the CEO of the company, and supposedly free market and open country, this is not okay, Murray, what is doing the bidding of the unions? This, in

part is what he had to say, firing a shot. Now, Remember he represents a government that has the capacity to deny Virgin access to some of the basic things that are their business. It has the capacity to not allow them to grow their business by refusing to let them partner up with overseas airlines, and they of course are

the chief regulator of the industry. For somebody who sits around the cabinet table to be offering a public threat to a company about whether he chooses the CEO of their choosing or not is a ligne too far from me. Think I'm making it up. Here's his own words.

But nice try, Murray wad to pretend that the lo part is always on the side of the worker and always standing up to Quantas. You do know that I'm able to show you the image of upgrade Elbow because of the Australian public's understanding of his closeness to the bloke who used.

on the fifteenth of the month. One in five people. Well, a little more detail on the same survey, because I only had the headline for you last night, are worrying. Eighteen point seven percent of Australian survey reported at having just one hundred dollars or less to their name. With high grocery prices, rising insurance premiums, increased energy costs pushing

their savings to the brink. Four in five Australians, or seventy nine point two say that the cost of living is impacted on their ability to save money over the past twelve months. So the Prime Minister can try to say everything will be so to Peter Darton, they can

try to say that somehow there are dark days ahead. Well, anyone who has lived in the real world for the past three years one outside of the Federal Parliament where every politician got a pay rise three of them in the past three years, where more public servants have been higher than ever before, and every public servant got a pay rise that was hist in ten years. The reality of Australia under Anthony Abnezi is worth repeating. The number

of homes that are in financial stress. Worth noting here that almost thirty percent of homes are in mortgage stress, meaning too big a portion of the money that they have is going on paying off the house because of the twelve interest rate rises, which in part have cost fourteen thousand dollars extra in repayments per five hundred thousand dollars that you borrow, So if it's a million, it's twenty eight thousand dollars plus fourteen plus fourteen every five

hundred thousand after that. That's money you did not have to pay before this bloke became the Prime minister. Twenty one months of a per capita recession leads to the worst living standards in Australias. It's nine fifty nine a football stadium, A businesses have gone busts three million people are this close to homelessness, or three point seven million people don't have enough food to get through the week.

who work more than one job. But there's also a very significant number of people who are ready to work tomorrow if a job actually turned up. The barriers and incentives to labor force participation was the report released today, and a line in it says, of the one point two million people who want a job, a million of them, eighty nine percent of the one point two million people, they could start within the first next four weeks. But we keep importing people into the country to do these jobs.

Why would you import people when there is this one point two million people who want to work, most of which ninety percent of which can do so in the next four weeks, and the rest of which could do so a little bit later. In fact, to actually show you as well, the number of Australians who have more than one job. Prime Minister, when it was the Opposition leader, used to la banging on about this statistic as an

example of something terrible in the Australian economy. Well, if it was bad before he became the Prime minister, how does he explain nine hundred and eighty six four hundred people who have to work more than one job to make ends meet in a country that is growning as a result of his leadership. Good luck making it about

Darton Powell. This election is about you. One of the more popular ideas that Peter Dutton's put on the table ahead of the Federal day is that he would like to ban all foreign property investment in this country for the first two years of his prime ministership. It is so popular that seventy three percent of people in marginal seats agree, sixty nine percent overall, fifty eight percent of Green's voters, almost eighty percent of his own voters, and

sixty percent of Labor voters. That's all the dark Blue.

More interesting story in the Telegraph today which was about the number of empty jobs there are in the police force, not just in one state, your state, but in fact in the whole country. About seven thousand spots are available and open inside inside the collective police forces of every state, every territory. And there's a whole collection of ideas about how they can improve this, including the Police Association in some states saying payroll tax and the rest of it.

I've got a few ideas about how you can improve the number of people that want to put their hand up to be the police force. Number One, governments that actually support the police force by giving them the powers and giving them the laws that people are not able to find. Also clever ways of getting out of making sure that a judiciary that constantly is giving the old wet lettuce leaf treatment to the people who the police actually are able to go find charge and bring before

a court. And third and most difficult for the government is that I want a Royal commission into the effects of trauma on people in our emergency services. I've told to the story before about a young lady that I met one night playing the Pokeys. We started chatting and she was out of the paramedic service because of the

trauma of what she had seen. A couple of blokes came and saw me who were former police officers in South Australia when we were doing a show in Renmark last year, saying that they too would like a Royal commission into the lack of support for police once you stop being a police officer. If we do not support the men and women of this country who wish to run towards danger each and every day, not just when they are the officers, but after they are the officers.

Then why would anyone put their hand up to be an officer in the first place. I'm pro cop. Humans are not perfect, but I am pro COP. I pro the institution, and I am pro the people that are part of it. I am thankful for what they do.

I'm not entirely sure that many people who are officers of the law in this country would feel as supported by their government, and certainly not by their judiciary, and increasingly not by some individuals out there who have been brought up by parents who challenge all authority and have ever since their kids were really little. You know, the ones who go and complain about the teacher punishing little Johnny because my little Johnny would never do anything wrong. Well,

of course, what's the lesson they learn? There is no authority that can't be ultimately overturned, and so frequently we see that in our community. The emergency services deserve support. Let's see whether it actually happens. And just finally, I want to talk about Donald Trump, and I want to talk about the events of today, and I just want to be very brief because, as you know, there was a meeting today between the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin and

Who and the President of the United States. And didn't the world freak out about what Trump had to say today? I mean, clearly there is now it's an official foreign policy of the United States, the illegal occupation of a sovereign land. He's talking about going in and rebuilding Gaza.

everything will be worse under done. Help me out here, Joe, if you are aware at all all of some of the inner thinkings about this. Cos Samaras, who is of course the bloken charge of Redbridge. We have him and his team on Sunday nights with Michael Kroger. Anything we're going to do every week up until the election called state of the Race, which is we're really getting deep, like we're really, as I tortured last night for you, we're counting the grains of sound on the beach, right,

that's the joy. Everyone else can to have the view of the beach. We're going to get right in to what's happening. His view was that this ad is not actually about trying to convince people who are soft on labor. It's actually about convincing Labour supporters to lock in behind and once you lock your base in then you go

off to fight. But I just think anyone who's kind of paying half attention and seeing that add somewhere, and there's been a lot of talk of it in the past week, I'm going to go worse under the other bloke.

rat poison. H Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now that doesn't cover you in glory, but it gets the job done.

focus groups, they've done all their work and whatever. But I remember sitting in on a campaign once I won't say which one, and watching the presentation of the storyline and the full box and dice and I there and I thought, oh my god, this is not going to work, and it didn't look.

the comparison style advertising. Remember when there was the ad and then rud response to the how it happened, Then Howard responds, and then eventually it becomes this more liberal party should come to that ad straight away, same number of tiles, same number of options, and reveal all of the things that have been worse under our Beernesi and with the simple line of you are worse off under OLBERNICI see what happens, right, all right, I look forward

to the mocking if that idea of actually comes true. So we know the federal government got itself into a world of pain with the censory of the Internet that they were trying to do last year about musoom informosion, where they would decide the truth on they wouldn't just a body they appoint would decide the information or the independent fact checkers that have now, of course, all been removed from many of the companies like Meta, Facebook and

all the rest of it. But there is a new piece of legislation which presumably is going to get talked up in the next couple of days and forced on a vote in the next couple of weeks, which is all about going after a whole bunch of other nasties on the Internet. Now, Joe again, I'm not going to sit here and say, well, for the benefit of free speech, the following horrible garbages allowed on the Internet. No one's going to sit in there, And that's not the game

I'm playing. But I am going to see with the legislation, and let's see letter for letter, paragraph for paragraph. How much of the stuff they dumped is going to be in this one and the reason that everyone will have to vote for it because the new legislation is about pedophiles.

of those characteristics. Now, the problem with that is that one person's vilification is another person's joke or you know, or valid criticism of, say, you know, a particular ideology or religion or whatever it might be.

to fire bomb child Cassy. It's already illegal to have something full of explosives brom when this is my issue, right and again, you know, maybe it's how many angels on a pinhead, But I think there's sort of some key principles in all of this, right, which is that we have a government that has already spent a couple of years trying to censor the Internet, who won't censor, by the way, the Chinese surveillance apps that are either social media or AI, but they ban them off their

own computers. And again, I think what this is really about is the next two weeks trying to force Peter it up into a scenario where you had a chance to vote against re antisemitism and you and you you didn't. You had a chance to shut down pornography and you didn't.

having a mandatory sentence, which is what Darton suggested. And now Burke raced in tonight and said, oh, we're got to have mandatory sentencing.

their constitutional mandates and restraints. And that's why they're not that popular with the groups they're about to go not rule over, but at least have some authority in dealing with, which is all the more reason why it's very important that they get confirmed and do exactly that. The American people left to Trump because the country's not working for them.

It needed a makeover, or like a serious makeover, and you can't make over the country with the cabinet that looks just like the last cabinet, including the last cabinet of Trump's. We didn't really have a makeover under him. He was still figuring out how do I get my

agenda through. He was taking people's recommendations on, oh, this guy's good, you need this guy here, and we later found out that many of those people were working against Trump and for the so called deep state, which is really just another word for establishment types who were entrench in the government and don't want to change a thing anyway. Trump's ripping all the band aids off, starting a new in almost every area, and as the kids say, I am here for it.

downs with this guy. Right when he was running for president, I remember playing a tape from one of his very many speeches where he points out the obvious America is fat, and it's sick, and it has chronic diseases that he didn't have when his uncle and his father were in the middle of the white And anyone who loves America knows that's exactly true.

I would not date Pete Hegseth either. I wouldn't. But I love Pete and I think Bobby's great too. To have dinner with them, you know, I can be friends with them, and I would one hundred percent vote for them for the positions they're in. Pete's already doing a great job over at Defense, and Bobby's going to do a great job over at health. He's an expert on the very things that you just ticked off that we need somebody to look at.

then this is going to get softer. Right, And clearly, one of the things that's very different this time around is that you know, the four AM tweets that fed into the breakfast television that then he was reacting to by the middle of the day before people reacted to the reaction, and then the feedback loop continues that, sure, he's still banging out the truth socials, but because he's doing these sort of look, I'm sitting at the desk,

got any questions for me, guys? You know quick yep, no, yes, bang bang bang, that some of the people around him have worked out how to let that part of his personality fly. But also it means it's being done in a quite authoritative setting. It's again, it's not the theory of him sitting on the toilet at a him. Is

him sitting behind the oval doing his job. And I think that whoever's behind that, and if it's Trump himself, awesome, most likely probably not whoever's put him in that space, they know how to get the best out of him and what's good for him, because otherwise you end up in this feedback loop of outrage.

Sean Duffy, same thing. Let me give you the latest on the airline disaster that we had over the Potomac. And then there's another flight that went down in Philadelphia on Friday night. Like, here's exactly what we're doing. This is what I've done. I brought these people in. It doesn't always have to be a big presser, right, it can just be the actual guy saying, I know what's on your mind. Here's what I'm doing to combat it.

And that's what Trump's doing, whether it's from the Oval or you know, on Marine one wherever he is, just popping into the press briefing room. His press secretary has been very visible too, Like they really are a vibrant, modern, visible presidency. If you could envision the polar opposite of the Joe Biden administration, that's what we're experiencing over here. You forget, you forget that Trump is seventy eight, Like

I noticed something. Paul Elon Musk is constantly on X constantly, and I don't know how he does it, because look at all good he's doing. It's like rescuing astronauts from space. It's shooting rockets of his own up there. He runs Tesla, which is an innovative electric vehicle company. He runs the Boring company where they're trying to bore it through all this underground cave material so that we can have high

speed trains. He runs the Neuralink company, where they're literally trying to solve paralysis and have figured out how to put something in somebody's brain such that they can control the computer just with their thoughts. That's what I think. I'm He runs X, he runs Twitter and is on Twitter. I'm exhausted. I need a nap just talking about it. Well, Trump is the same. That's exactly how Trump is. And I don't know if he's just built that way or if it's the pseudo fed which I do know he likes.

But whatever it is, it's they're both constantly awake, alert and ready for more. So again, I don't want to be married to that like that. I'd be like, go to bed. I'm tired, for the love of Pete. But I do like it in an executive and a billionaire who wants to work for us for free. It's this pairing that I think will truly change the world. But we are three to two one from hearing the reports over in Politico of the journalists and how tired they are.

It's don't stop chaos and they can't take this, and they're all on antidepressants.