From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, James, all the best to Sharry. See her again tomorrow or definitely next week. We've got lots to get to tonight, including a massive debate. And yes, I'm going to rip into Jim Chalmers. How can you not after the garbage that he's been serving up today. Oh, it's all a global and systemic problem, loang, and it was very personal
when it was the other bloke. And I'll tell you why Australia is actually underperforming the rest of the world. Can you believe there's a plan for facial recognition to be the way that you may end abit paying for things? You wouldn't even need to double tap or beep, you would just use your face. What could possibly go wrong? And the Great Meghan Kelly joins us to discuss two months ago in the American election and about a week
ago until the debate. But first, every now and then we like to try to focus and start with some good news. We know how tough the rest of the
news is. It doesn't mean we won't talk about the serious stuff, but an update on some stuff that we hope will make you smile, including your update today on the little Bubba that we've been following for more than a week now, the little Bubba who, of course was burnt by a lunatic who decided to pour what was hot coffee and now we understand a thermos full of it and he's been pretty badly burned. Now, we brought you the news on Sunday that thankfully he is up
at walking, laughing again. Well, the good news I can bring you now comes via a social media post of his mum. They're out of hospital. In a social media post, the woman said that he has been home for a few hours. He's already knocked his head like toddlers often do. It's going to be a great few months. She's of course saying that because back to hospital on Friday and then on Monday of next week to start the skin
graft process. The Bubber's had three surgeries and they were undertaken on Monday, early procedures revealing that he would most likely suffer scars under his neck and chest due to the serious burns. But the good news is the firstly up and walking, secondly now at home, and thirdly a recovery process is going on. I still don't understand how or why the person police believe responsible has not been found.
If you know the image, if you know the information, if you know anything, even a week and a bit on call Crime Stoppers one one hundred, triple three, triple zero. Now, the Fox sisters are legends of the paras Olympic Games because not one but two of them ended up winning gold medals. Between them, the family won at three gold
medals and they are rock stars. Well, of course, there is a facility that was built almost quent five years ago for the Sydney Olympic Games for canoeing and kayaking, and it's the water sports arena that is in Penrith on the outskirts of Sydney. They are both from there. They are both proud Panthers fans, and today a part of the course has now been named after them. It will be known as Fox Island.
Yeah, that's very special.
Something we see every day and the cost Island, say a.
Lot of island.
They are cuties. And in terms of the Paralympics, look I like you. I love watching them, I really do. Just to see what these athletes are able to do with the obvious disabilities. People who've got you would imagine no capacity to be athletic. Of course, will they outshine able bodied people. It's incredible to see what they do. And a perfect example of somebody that we've met before who was at the Paralympics is Madison do d Rosario. My apologies, she's a rockstar. She's going to be competing
in marathon as well as the fifteen hundred meters. We of course met her when we were doing our town in bower Galla on the northern beaches of Sydney, and I'm pleased to say that she is now a medal winner. She got bronze in one of the three events that she is competing in. The one that she hopes to go for gold will be in a couple of days time. But congratulations, three bits of good news to start the day. Now.
I'm pleased to see that a few people have noticed what we told you last night, which was that Giggles Miles, Stephen Miles, the Queensland Premiere, took an eleven minute flight on a private jet paid for by the Queensland taxpayer, an eleven minute flight so he could go to an MP's birthday and he can announce a brand new school fence This is ridiculous. I agree with everything that's been
said thus far. Now, of course, Stephen Miles, well, as always when it comes to labor, you never a minute mistake, you double down. You know you're the one with the problem, not me. Well that was the game today. At the press conference as the Cory mal said that, he defended himself,
saying he had no regrets about the flight. It is an eleven minute flight on a jet, taxpayer funded simply because it's an easier way to get around than driving on the goat tracks that the Queensland government have let become goat tracks.
So well, look, it might be easy fodder to pick one leg of that trip, but taken in its totality, I think you'll see that I was very busy and it was an appropriate, entirely appropriate.
Use of travel resources.
I get that it's easy fodder for tableaux journalists, but when you look at the trip in totality, it made sense.
Please please if he uses tone diff as this after what we caught him doing earlier in the year when he had a private jet and the Police Commission had a private jet to fly from the same place to the same place, and he got torched in and around that. Politically, you would think that when you look at the itiner and you say, wellang I am, we're going from here
to here's for eleven minutes. I don't know about that, because, of course on the plane with him were news reporters, so the idea that it was ever going to get out, of course, was not to be seen. But the courier mal who had the information and put it on their newspapers and have gone after him again today well done, have got a lot of commenters to their website and the letter section of the newspaper, and says, typical of this goose. He knows he's cooked, Hence he doesn't give
a hoot. Ian says, if his goal is to look stupid, he's doing a first rate job of it. Paul says, the arrogance of this bloke shows no bounds. He loves splourging other people's money. Now that sounds like something that I would have written to the paper, but it was somebody else called Paul. But it's one hundred percent true. And Graham says, this is yet another example of why
we don't have money for our roads and hospitals. Out the door in twenty four oh yet one more, David says, Oh, come on, guys, it's hardly fair to be critical of mister males. Do you realize how long a seventy five kilometer trip would take on Queensland roads, with all the potholes and acts and delays, he could have taken a day. Tongue firmly, of course, planted in cheek. But it is yet another example about other people's money and how it
is spent. Now we know that the Prime Minister has got quite a sweet tooth when it comes to this stuff about the amount of private travel bouncing around an airbus elbow, the brand new plane that's coming, which he couldn't possibly have canceled despite the fact that it was ordered a couple of years ago, and even as we know, nicknames the plane that you and I pay for Toto
after the dog. Well, today Daily Telegraph had to look at some of the money that he's spending on top of a bunch of other things that you're already paying for. It's three point eight million dollars. Three point eight million dollars must be fun to be up the front of the bus, or not have a bus, or to have your own plane a brand new one. Anthony Alberdezi slugg taxpayers one hundred thousand dollars and twelve months for private
com car bookings. So, by the way, this is on top of on top of CEE one plus two hundred and fifty three thousand dollars for printing in communications his staff and he has sixty one of them. Remember a significant number of those working in the media department helping to fluff the image of this Prime minister was worth
two and a half billion dollars. The Prime Minister's annual three point eight million dollar expenses bill does not include his private chartered flights, It does not include his salary at six hundred thousand dollars. It does not include the wages of his staff, which are estimated to be about
ten million dollars. Again, comments to the paper that wrote about it this morning and has been online all day about it, Anthony says, mister Alberinsi talks about the cost of living, how Australians are struggling, but neglects to mention it doesn't include him. Francis, we can't afford a forty
dollars cab ride, Prime Minister, so out of touch. You are also inside this report is the amount of money that is being spent by some of the dopes that are in Parliament and some of the dullards that are in and around this Prime Minister formerly sitting around the Cabinet table or the ministry idiot Andrew Giles, the bloke who absolutely stuffed up the National security with the response to the High Court decision. He spent a million dollars
on office administration. That's rent bills, printing, stationary software and telecommunications. Jim Charmers or Grim. Jim had to of course flight in the United States. We talked about this trip at the time. We now know his five day trip costs eighty five thousand dollars. All of these people tell you should work from home. All of these people say your kids shouldn't go to school during a pandemic. All of
these people say why not do it on zoom? But when it's them Tims and Tim hehs is the Assistant Trade Minister. He spent two hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars on international flights. And if you don't remember who this bloke is, like most people in Australia, he's the one who abused anyone who believes that we should have a proper royal commission or real inkoo worry into COVID. He basically calls you a conspiracy theory and a lunatic.
There is a well spring, a sort of fitted wellspring of COVID conspiracy theorists, and some of them, some of them, some of them in habit the benches over.
There, classy staff, Oh, we always care about cost of living. Quarter of a million dollars flying around the world and it's extended to the people that aren't even in the government. Sophie Scamps is the Independent or the Teal Party MPO should say, oh, of course it's not a party. We all just look the same, say the same and fund the same. But it's absolutely a community independent. She spent two hundred and forty six thousand dollars on printing and communications.
A perfect example of once you elect somebody, they have taxpayer funds to market themselves to the electorate. When you are not in government, you're able to not have to take responsibility for anything. There are more people on the cross bench as a result of the potential minority parliament. They will all have the ability to do so. And why it's so hard to move them on, no matter how irrelevant they are or how far the actual reality of their time in offices. Remember she didn't even work
weekends at one point. Is with their rhetoric. So let's get to the economy. I know a couple of other people have mentioned it in some detail tonight, but you know, this is our Bally week, this is what we do. This is our line and length, and there's lots of numbers I need to get to here. As you know, the Prime Minister and Jim Chalmers claim that they have been pushing the economy in the right direction. Well, as you know, the GDP results so that Australia is still
in a per capita recession. This would be the sixth quarter in a row that we have been in a per capita recession. That is the best part now of eighteen months. The ABC, by the way, actually agrees with my worldview when it comes to how bad the situation is, because once you take away the Ponzi scheme of immigration, the average Australian you and I is in a world of trouble.
There's an argument that it's a dumb way to keep yourself out of recession simply by adding more people into the economy because it's not a real reflection of your economic performance. So if his trip that out, we're gone backwards for six consecutive quarters, which is not a great performance for the economy.
Outrageous, unbelievable right to give you an idea of the growth rates where we were as rather than roaring, if we were a car, we're idling, and you know when your car's out of tune, and the idle means that you slightly roll forward at the traffic lights. Well, that's been the Australian economy in September of last year zero point two percent, in December zero point two percent, March zero point one percent, and the statistics released today again
zero point two percent. The annual rate is now the best part of one percent, and that is the worst it's been since the recession in nineteen ninety one. In a blow of the Albanese government's economic credentials, figures released by the Australian Bureau Statistics on Wednesday show the economy grew by just zero point two percent in the June corter of the annual growth down to one percent last financial year. It's the weakest performance by the economy outside
of COVID since nineteen ninety one's recession. The poor result has been driven by households who cut spending by zero point two percent in the three months to the end of June. They are pulling back on things like food, alcohol, clothing, footwear, cafes, hotels, the purchase of new cars. Discretionary spending down one point one percent. This, of course, was the treasurer pretending nothing to do with us. It's happening everywhere around the world.
This is the inevitable consequence of global economic uncertainty. In the context of a really difficult global economic environment, any growth in our economy is welcome growth. This is an economy being buffeted by global uncertainty.
Now, the reality is is that if we're being buffeted by a global uncertainty, you would imagine that people who have economies similar to ours would be in the same position as us. But as I showed you last night, when it comes to inflation, that's not true. But they know there's not enough time for that to be mentioned in the six pm news. It'll barely make the headlines of the clickbait let alone the papers the next day.
Australia's inflation three point eight percent, the United States two point nine, Japan two point eight, Canada two point five, the UK two point two. We are almost double that of the United Kingdom. And when it comes to growth around the world, the most recent quarterly numbers in the United States three percent, we're zero point two, Japan, the UK,
Canada all doing better than us. We are sputtering along and the only reason we are above water is of course because of the amount of government spending that goes into state based projects and the amount of pay rises being given to the public sector, as well as the number of people that are being bust into the country. All of that means they can say, oh, we've technically avoided a recession, but the per capita recession, the one you and I are living in a quarter is three months.
Six of those quarters now the best part of as I say, eighteen months, we have been in a recession. By the way, the japan number this is after their country had come out of a recession. So what exactly is the excuse for Australia will debate that in a moment or two's time, very much looking forward to that. Now interesting little bit of politics is playing right now around tax agents. Now, as you know, two ways that you do your tax One is that you prepare your
own turn. And remember that was sort of big even a few years ago. You know, you stack pack or tax pack or whatever it is to be called. Now, of course, there's a whole bunch of people who can do it for themselves online, or you go to an accountant. You go to somebody who will you give them all the receipts. They work out what's possible, what's not possible. You have a look, you make sure everything's above board,
you sign, and away we go. Where there may will be a change in a relationship between the accountant and you and the accountant rather than being the person who helps you get the largest possible tax return that you are entitled to under the law, not suggesting anything other than that, but what you are entitled to under the law, will they now move from being the person who's on your side to the one on the side of the tax department and may well end up having to play
the role of being a tax cop. Tax agents could be forced to dob in clients for any misleading tax statements and reveal personal mental health in from about themselves to clients. Under new reforms which are planned by the Albanezy government. Under a rafter changes to the tax sector, tax agents will be required to act as compliance officers, so again not helping you get as much back as you can legally, but helping the tax offers take as
much as possible. The agents would also be required to advise all current and prospective clients of any matter that could significantly influence a client's decision to hire them. The Chartered accountants say, well, hang on, what if I've got a mental health issue? Would I have to declare that to my client? And therefore the client would know that I had a mental health issue and they may well run the other way, which I think would actually be discriminatory.
But still this is what may will be being put into the system. Furious Chartered Accounts have written an Assistant Treasurer with independent legal advice that shows broad new requirements could extend to mental health condition. Whose side are they on and by that I mean the government. It's always on their side, not on yours. It's already your money. It's the vast majority of people pay it through their
employer in the pay as you go system. In fact, that is the single largest source of revenue for the federal government. It's not the GST. It's not company tax it's not smoking taxes, it's not taxes on mining. It's the employees paying their tax. Now we will debate tonight an interesting topic. It is one of the Greens have tried to own for a while. But I think there's a great opportunity here for everyone to think of how
to do it, and that is going to the dentist. Now, depending on your lifestyle, you may well rarely go, will you go as frequently as I do? And I've got to say a big shout out to my dentist. Wonderful, amazing, great management of pain. In fact, even fall asleep sometimes while they are bashing away with mutum, which is probably
a sign of morbid obesity. But anyway, I digress. A bunch of labor in peace have come forward today to suggest that Medicare should have more dental involved in it, and that there should be a better taxpayer funded system in and around dental care. We'll debate it tonight, but I'll tell you what my position is. I agree. Now, I know that the NDIS, once introduced, has blown out now to tens of billions of dollars in a giant
black hole. But I also know that there's an awful lot of people who put off going to the dentist because they can't afford it. We have to make sure that there is a properly funded dental scheme because, as you know, what may be problems in your mouth ends up going into other parts of your body, and worst case scenario, the worst possible consequences. If we have a system, a better system, well we'll debate it all in a
moment or two time. Also back to Queensa now for another example about other people's money and how it is spent. You may remember the former Deputy Premier Jackie Tradd. Now she was of course a threat to Palachet, so she was slowly but surely pushed out the side door, and thanks to idiotic preference deals where the Liberal Party decided to give preferences to the Greens, her seat has now
been replaced in Central Brisbane with a Greens MP. The idea of the Libs backing in the Greens is as dumb as Labor backing in the Teals, both of them setting themselves up for huge disasters. But you may remember that there was a matter that went before the Crime and Corruption Commission surrounding mus trad Now she was absolutely cleared of any wrongdoing, any illegality. This was a good report.
But for some reason, Jackie Tradd and the Queensland government has spent more than three hundred thousand dollars trying to stop the release of the report into a politician who hasn't been in the parliament at all this term. Three hundred thousand dollars. Now, remember that's a premier ago, a couple of deputy premiers ago. Why do they hide this stuff? Again? It was a good report, a good report, but a good report that they don't want you to see. It
doesn't make any sense, does it. And massive news out of the United States today, there's nothing to do with Trump and Harris. A Chinese spy had been working for the Governor of New York and had been doing so for many, many years. The money that came via the kickbacks of the Chinese went into a mansion in a regional part of New York, plus ferraris and even some free salted duck. Here is also what was happening in
exchange for the money. According to the authorities. The news source the American version of the ABC.
Worked for former Governor Andrew Cuomo and his successor, Governor Kathy Hokeel for more than a decade and never disclosed any benefits she received. Instead, prosecutors say she acted as an undisclosed agent of China, allegedly blocking representatives of the Taiwanese government from having access to the New York State Governor's office and changing the governor's messaging regarding issues of
importance to the Chinese. Sun traveled to China, as seen in this photo included in the indictment, where prosecutors say she met with officials from the Chinese Communist Party.
Nothing to see here now to the rice between Trump and Harris. Now, I wanted to do something while there is this little bit of a lull, which is to explain how much happens between today and election day, which is the first Tuesday in November Melbourne Cup Day here in Australia, but in the United States it is the fifth of November. Now, there are a lot of things that happen, and that means that where the rice is
to die matters now. Right now there are predictions that he's Trump's path to two seventy here's her path to two seventy. It's always tight. And again I can show you a bunch of poles, it will tell you it's Trump in front by a bit, or it's Harris in front by a bit. But it matters about just how few days there are left to change people's minds. And I'm not talking about the two months between now an
election day. In fact, can we bring up here the calendar of how many things happen between right now and the fifth of November, being the election day next week the most likely only debate between Trump and Harris. About a week later, Trump is then sentenced in New York City. What would happen to the race if he's sent to jail for thirty days? What would happen to the race if he is able to walk away from it all? We'll all see. As early as September twenty early voting
starts in many states. On September the twenty sixth, Trump is back in court where he is trying to appeal against a five hundred million dollar fine that was put in place by the people going after him in New York. On October the I that is the vice presidential debate, and there looks like there is a full month of nothing happening between October the first and November fifth, but
not entirely so. In fact, as early as this week, people will start getting ballots in the mail and they will be able to return them well and truly before election day. Now under the rules that when Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats were in charge of the House of Representatives, they made sure that all of the rules in and around how the election works during the COVID times now become standard in all fifty states now, the seven states that will decide the election. In North Carolina they vote
this week, voting this week. So again, if Trump is up right now, but Harris comes up in time for the election, well will people be voting on the assumption of Trump winning or Harris winning? About again a week later. The state that matters Pennsylvania, then Wisconsin, Michigan. In October
you get Georgia and Arizona. And then if we happen to be in one of those statistical things that I've shown you before, if he wins here and she wins there and carry the one and the state of Nevada will matter more than any others it could have the possible ability to put either of them above two hundred
and seventy. Well, obviously they are a couple of hours behind the polls closing, so it will become very late in the night, if not early in the morning in the United States, which will be almost like a full day since the election had started for us watching here in Australia, but in Nevada that don't actually have elections like we would assume, where you go to a polling places fill out the ballot instead everyone in the state and the only way to vote in the state is
to get your ballot by mail. So there is a lot to happen that we know about. Let alone the October surprise. Let alone what we don't know about. Let alone what they say, lettle a bone, what they do, Which is why I hope you join us every night between now and that election, because I'll only tell you the stuff that matters, but I'll always give you just a little bit more information than everyone else, so you can pass yourself off as yeah, I know everything that's
going on in the States. So that's my favorite to you, your favor to me. Keep watching every night, be here in the front row, nine o'clock Eastern in Paul Murray Life quick break back with more lots to talk about here none other than rom a Bushop carry out a Champ takes on Stephen Conroy, the forever challenger who's here to help. That's next Meghan Kelly in a moment or
two from the US as well. I made sure that I wrap it up quickly at the start of the show because I wanted to give even more time to the people who I know you love seeing go the full ding dong. They do so again this evening, none other than the carry out Champ, Bromwan Bishop of course, former Speaker of the House, the man who's the former Communications Minister, send it up but always just here to help,
none other than the wonderful Stephen Conroy. Now, I am not going to pretend that the story that we heard about a cabinet discussion about the what isn't in the senses is a big story. But I am going to talk about one thing, which is I've been around long enough that once you start to hear leaks from cabinet, something's going wrong. Now some people have told me, well a story clearly that is favorable to the Prime Minister. That is leaked from cabinet was really clearly something that
he approved of. It's a different way of doing a press release, but very obviously the way that all of this was packaged up in the papers today was that someone was telling the newspapers what was being said around the cabinet table. Now, Steve, and I'll start with you. Obviously, the nature of the leak is positive to the Prime Minister.
Obviously the issue is one that we've discussed before. But let's all imagine things were as they appeared by it from a journalists perspective, was that this was a leak from the cabinet table. You would surely agree with me that, regardless of whether it was Team Red, Team Blue, or any government in our history. As soon as we start to know what's going on in and around the cabinet table, something's going on.
Well, I think, as you said, it wouldn't matter who was in government, and both Promin and I have been in the ministry and cabinets. When you start reading multiple sources being quoted and giving accurate descriptions, it's not in the spirit of cabinet solidarity. So I think that you know the fact that this isn't the absolute first has been one or two minor in but certainly this is
the biggest. It's not, you know, earth shattering, as you've said, it's sort of on a relatively small issue given the other issues that are impacted in the Australian public. But it's it is very untidy when you start to see and read commentary that takes place in cabinet. And I'm sure even Bromwinnen would agree with that.
Well, and this is the point problem where I mean I both if you know, right, the way it's supposed to work is the cabinet is the place where you can speak as freely as possible as a collective group to work out which what decision you're going to take. Then you're all bound by whatever the majority of the room is and you all go out and argue it
to the hilt. Right if there is someone saying what's being said during what would otherwise be sort of you know, like any meeting anyone has in their office that it's a planning meeting or a decision meeting, well then you've got a problem with your business. And this is a I think the beginning of a significant problem for Anthony Obernezi. I'm not he is about to be rolled as prime minister. Any garbage that in the next But let's be honest, every pole says that he's underwater when it comes to
his own popularity. They're at fifty to fifty in two party preferred, they're behind in primary vote and as we'll get to a second in the economy, there's not a lot that's going their way at the moment. That's why I lead with this tonight.
What do you think, Well, whenever a cabinet starts to leak, it's trouble. And the idea that a prime minister would authorize someone to leak from cabinet is crazy stuff.
I should say that's the best possible spinnoker. Yeah.
One of the telltale lines was when somebody said he spoke about it in cabinet, talking about the prime minister and then said it was far and broomstone. That indicates he was rattled, right, And that's the impression that statement gives.
Because in that room you're not supposed to get fired up. You're supposed to have these logical back and forth, or in that room you do fire.
Up, you're certainly not supposed to have it reported outside that because you are seating with anger or whatever. But whenever a cabinet starts to leak, it's trouble. And the next sign is when the public service starts to leak, that is more trouble.
Well, they've just got their biggest pay rise in ten years, so I think there's a hope that they won't at anytime soon. But you're very right, And of course the way that that works is that again you tell me if I'm in the wrong zone here, guys. But I'm imagining that when you've got a problem, you ask the public servants to come up with the solutions. There's the sandwich that's really rotten, there's the sandwich that is not really a sandwich, and then you've presented with the moderate
option in the middle. But of course, if for whatever reason, you start to be saying to your people, no, I'm going to go for this sandwich you don't want, then suddenly questions start turning up, minister, is it not true that you have been offered one of three sandwiches, one sam which is particularly bad, And then that's what becomes the question time game for the next of the while. So that would be the example of the public service leaking correct, good, All right, Now let's talk about the
economy here. It ain't good. It ain't good, And the Treasurer is sort of saying, oh, it's all global, when I just showed the numbers of it, how similar things are going around the world. Again, we are part of a wider system, but we were with the last mob. But everything was so personal in relation to the last mob. So the same rule will be applied in this case.
But what does today's number show when again even on the ABC, they are saying, the only reason the car is idling at the lights and slightly rolling forward is because of the number of people we're trying to shove on the back seat.
Well, the really worrying thing is and Chalmers comes out and says, the only reason there was any growth is because of government spending. What that means is it is sucking success out of the private sector. It's sucking the ability of the private sector to attract people that it needs to survive in this very difficult time. And so
the economy is very largely out of balance. Now, the RBA doesn't care about that spending and spending, but if you look at the figures and you see the imbalance where so many of the new jobs created are either in the public sector or dependent on the government spending like the NDAs. So it really is a big concern. And this is a figure we haven't seen since nineteen ninety one. I remember what it was like when we
had the recession we had to have. And I've got to tell you, mister Chalmers, ain't no mister Keating.
Well, and remember the doctor bid is not a doctor of economics, doctor of political communication.
He might have written PhD thesis on Keating. There is no comparison. When riche said to me the other day in conversation, he really does need more enemies, doesn't he? It says a lot.
All right, give me an idea here, Stephen. Again, we know where where we are. No doubt you will say it's not as bad as I may will present it. But it's pretty obvious that when they say global, global, global, and then you go and have a look at what the inflation rate is in those places and the growth rate in those places, and if all of them are doing better than us, then we're running kind of towards the back end of the global economy, aren't we.
Look, Paul, your views have heard me extensively on the appalling Reserve Bank performance over the last number of years. They pushed interest rates to high after promising they wouldn't put them up, and now they're being pigheaded in refusing to a.
Lot of them.
They have ground this economy to an almost halt. And I'm sorry, Paul, but you know GDP is measured C consumption, consumers, I, investment G governments. That equals GDP. That's one O one economics. So the governments are part of what creates GDP growth or contraction. And if the government didn't have the sort of spending that it's got at the moment, the Reserve Bank would have successfully destroyed this economy. Those are the simple facts. It's maths, it's statistics, it's whatever you want
to call it. And to borrow from Bromwyn, the s Romen just just go read a first year textbook, Okay, to borrow if they've actually they've actually sucked the life out of the private sector. Deserve bank so okay, So he's killing this economy and.
We're in a per capita recession. We have been now for the best part of eighteen months. The Reserve Bank, by keeping the interest rates makes all of that harder that the individual is going backwards on all of those fronts that we've just talked about. So what is the solution here about? Because the Reserve Bank has made it clear they're not touching anything till at least next year, which means we all stay in this in this very pressured spot.
Look, the Treasurer has a lot of words. It's very good on adjectives and adverbs, not too good on nouns. But one word that he leaves out all the time is productivity. Yes, never mentions it. That's what we desperately need now.
He is a government zero productivity zero. You don't get to play the car.
He has been just done it very very provocative in the words he's used about the Reserve Bank. There's obviously a brawl on this should be and today and today he had the absolutely insulting term to describe John Hard as being rolled out. What an insulting term, buddy respects him? Of course, of course John Hard would know more about these issues than in his little finger and the current Treasurer know and to be so disrespectful in that manner really made me and a lot of other people very angry.
Well in fact I have that comment. Let's roll the tape. Well, none team press play.
We need to remember, of course, John Howard is a liberal warrior. He's not exactly an objective observer. He's a partisan warrior, and that's fine. But if he was an objective observer, he'd acknowledge that we have turned two big liberal deficits into two big labor surpluses.
And your own intergeneration reports your deficit every year every years.
I mean, where is the where is the common sense in what he says? He says, Oh, look, I've got these two great surpluses. What about the stuff that's off budget? Yeah, well we're given away here, have a couple of hundred millionaire for a hundred millionaire because it just gets given away like it doesn't exist.
Correct, All right, now, let's get to well, something that is completely unrelated to the problems we're at right now, but just about a general issue which may will be an awful lot more spinning to come into the future. I don't hate the idea of medicare for dental I know it's tens of billions of dollars and I don't know where it comes from, and I don't know how
that works. But as a system we know that one of the good things about the public health system means that eventually, if you seek someone's going to be taken care of. But of course things with dental, yes, there's a very small program and the most extreme, but it's not something that you would say the working poor would be turning to with the same frequency that they would
a public hospital or bulk billing of a GP. So bromin, why am I crazy to even talk about a bigger, better system for people to be able to take care of their teeth, whatever rage they are, that is better than what's currently on offer.
Well, one of the problems is, Paul, and you said it right from the beginning. It's mathematical. Where is the money coming from? Even Whitlam decided not to put it in. It's a separate profession, which is why it didn't go in under the doctor category.
And they say, if we go to full medicare dental, you need twenty thousand dentists and it cost forty five billion dollars and that of course can't be done with a little optic in the medicare.
We've seen what happened with the ndis.
Correct, absolutely correct.
We have an enormous problem. Yes, we have to look after people, and I think we could have a few good programs about dental hygiene and dental care, looking after your teeth more.
Now, get ready for some people to flip their tables somewhere. Government really wants it. They've got three hundred billion dollars for submarines that will arrive sometime in the next four hundred years. But give us an idea against Stephen? Am I off with the fairies? Am I down in the lefty garden? Have I accidentally drunken the kool aid?
Or?
Am I just I just think about that working poor section. Those people that we know right now are making the choices.
Paul, you're dead right. In a perfect world, yes would be part of and labor has at various stages proposed concepts like this. But I have it both ways. You can't. You can't spend twenty five minutes of your program attacking the government for overspending and then advocate forty five million dollars worth of spending. Go I don't know where the money comes from. As an it's an increase in the Medicare levee. All of all of the ideas.
Out a little bit of the transcript.
But okay, they're all worthy, but you can't actually criticize the government spending. The advocate the next biggest program since the ndis well no.
But what I am saying, though, is that it's all about priorities. They get, they've got more money than ever before. My suggestion is that there are other priorities, and in the current pie, I would consider trying to find out how to expand that system. All right, That's what's my advocacy. And I think that there's a little bit of waste that you might be able to cut out of that pie. And as the tubby man, I get the final say on pie. All right, thank you very much. I appreciate it.
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So about a week's time, we will be right on top of what is supposed to be the Trump Paras debate. They say it's locked, but then it seems like it's not. I think it's about microphones. I think it's about whether Harris can bring paper notes with her. What do you think it wake out from when they're supposed to debate.
It's just such nonsense.
They're going to do it. They're going to debate. Well, it's too tight a race not to do it. Both sides think that they can win, that they can beat the other one. So I guess we're just going to have these, like I don't know, pissing contest between now and then about Mike's or notes or what have you.
The notes thing is absolutely absurd.
Technically, she's already been denied the ability to bring notes on there.
The test is easier if it's open book. We all know that. But she's running to be president.
She's going to have to be faciled with policy without her little notepad next door at all times. So I don't think she's going to be allowed to bring notes in. I actually think Trump will throw down over that one. And the mic thing is just a reason to keep attention going. Trump loves to have drama around these debates, so I think that's why he's continuing it.
Harris of course thinks that one of the ways she's going to get through the next little while is by doing a bus tour. Now, fascinating here about the logic of the bus tour. Now, anyone who remembers twenty years ago the Straight Talk Express and a bus tour that John McCain took across the country, that's not what she's doing. What she's doing is, yes, getting on a bus, but it goes from small venue to small venue to small venue. When I see this stuff, I don't see interactions with people.
I see this as proof of life, but making sure that the risk is nonexistent. What do you think?
I think that's smart.
And if she were my candidate, that's exactly what I'd be doing. I mean, you saw her in that interview with CNN. She is not good on her feet. She's not fascial, she really isn't. She doesn't really know her facts, She lies, she meanders. I joked the other day on my show that she went from being this person who seems drunk all the time to seeing Aslia hungover. It was very humbling. It's very humbling when my niece saw me. I mean, there's no in between. The real Kamala, I think,
is the cackling Kamala. And so they've given her some sort of a depressant I think, to dig rid of the cackle because they realize how off putting it is.
They tried to rebrand it as bratt.
Maybe that worked with some twenty year olds, but no sober fifty year old things. It's bratt, nor do they even know what brad is. So now they've tried to do sober Kamala. She's just depressed and kind of sad all the time, which undermines their joyful message. But they got to choose which one they want, and they put the money down on sober Kamala because that's that's how she came out with CNN. So that's what I guess
she's going to be on the campaign trail now. She's going to be the serious sober one we can trust to what pull us out of Afghanistan without any deaths of troops, just as Joe Biden nobody died. Like that's a position they're in and I just don't think that's inspirational. And you see Trump, what does he do, Yes, he does the rallies. We've talked about all those, but he does these stops where he goes into like a seven eleven, or he goes into some random restaurant or some donut
shop or what have you. And the people love him because the thing about Trump is, unless you're a diehard Democrat, he's very charming, and you will find him charming, and he will smile at you, and he will what was the Jane Austen line, you will smile and make love to us. All That's kind of how he approaches any interaction and people feel it. So Kama Harris doesn't have the ability to do that. So I think they're absolutely right.
Keep her in tight controlled settings on prompter, keep it quick, don't give her a chance to meander or cackle, and let's see if we can keep that rolling for two months right into the presidency.
Now at the very heart of the thresholds at which different candidates are held. Two stories involving the military. I've walked everyone through in laborious daytile the laws that we're told about what happened when Donald Trump was invited by some of the families of the thirteen who died in Afghani Stan. And you have done phenomenal work showing that people who served with Tim Waltz that when he decided to pull the pin run for Congress rather than laid
them into battle. One story goes for a week, and even as as well researched multiple people, multiple sources sitting in front of a camera, the media will choose to ignore.
But that story at Arlington is the Democrats stepping on a rake. I mean that what a stupid, stupid thing for them to try to make an issue out of right, given how vulnerable she is on the issue of veterans and the military.
Like this was just absolute folly by her team.
It should have been a two day story that they put on other people like Surrogate's not having to do with her, but she weighed in directly and now she's getting the rake right in her face as she ought to, since she hasn't given them any sort of dignity or respectful goodbye or even paid her respect any meaningful way to the families. And they were ready for this, So you know, the media is one hundred percent on her side.
So I guess from that standpoint, they took a calculated risk that the media would run cover for her, which it is. But I really think this is a net negative story for Kamala Harris. It's only brought back into the forefront the fact that she doesn't give two figs about the thirteen service servicemen and women who died at Abbey Gate, and she wasn't at the dignified transfer, she didn't show up at Arlington. Trump's been there. Trump was
there at Arlington, and he was there beforehand. He's met with the families now for years and paid his respects over and over and over, giving them unlimited time. We heard that from one of the families at his convention. So in any event, there's that story, the thing about the Walls and his stolen valor.
It's not going away.
And so you're right, the media will ignore the fact that these four men, two of whom actually do hold the rank of retired command sergeant major, which is as high as you can get in the non commissioned officer front.
Came out to say he's a coward. Tim wall is a coward who cut and ran and abandoned his men, and that he's been doing this stolen valor when it comes to his rank, when it comes to his story about why he didn't go to Iraq, and when it comes to whether he served it in actually in war, whether it was Afghanistan or Iraq, for years, and that these military guys have been going to him privately, behind the scenes to say, please stop. You're embarrassing yourself and
you're disrespecting us, and he wouldn't do it. So the medium will try to ignore that story, but I just think it has legs and that the independents who are in these critical swing states are going to see the clips that were on my show. These guys have been out there, some of them individually, the clips that have been out there, and they know there's something about Tim Walls that's disrespectful, dishonorable when it comes to the military.
And that's a problem Tim Walls.
It's basically handicapped him from being able to tout his military record on the stump. And that's a problem for him because JD. Vans can still do that. And the American people still hold Afghanistan against this administration. Now will they hold it against Kamala Harris?
They should?
She said she was last in the room, and so on. Trump's got to remind people of that over and over and over again. But he's been hobbled on bragging about his military service because these guys refused to remain silent.