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She decided to take that clip and parley into her victimhood. How people have doubted her as she becomes the country queen.
What is she talking about?
Well, Beyonce and somehow I'm involved in all of this. I don't understand. I'm in the middle of a beef between Beyonce and Meghan Kelly.
We all know I'm going to back Meghan Kelly all day, every day.
But first let's start with the garbage that's going on in Tasmania as we speak. By this time, the expectation was that the government was going to fall. Well, probably not tonight. We know Tasmania as gorgeous. Since twenty fourteen, Liberal premiers have been the constant choice of the people of Western Australia. First Will Hodgman, his second term was a full majority. Then Peter Goodwin took over after Will moved on, and now Jeremy Redcliff.
Who of course was the treaty with Peter Goodwin. He won the election last year.
The election last year in Tasmania no did not produce a majority of seats, but clearly the party with the most support were the Liberals fourteen seats for short of a majority.
But clearly clearly.
Above the Labor Party at ten, the Greens at five, Independence including a former Labor leader who had been booted out of the party, and the Jackie Lamby candidates who by their own admission had no policies, but the power
of the re elected senator was able to produce those three. Now, whether those three would have gone to the Libs or two to one of who cares right, But the reality was it was a government going for multiple terms and the only reason there was a state election in Tasmania last year was because at the previous election, again a scenario where a majority had not been produced and slightly
maturely numbers get chipped away. Now we've seen this multiple times over multiple years, where frankly, the Labor Party in the Greens have tried to work together in my view, to steal government. When the Liberal Party have got a clear majority in a state that hasn't produced majority government for a long time, they settled in on the person
we came to know as the Hamburglar. The former mayor of Hobart, Sue Hickey, elected as a Liberal, got annoyed because she was and made a minister, so the Greens and Labor tallied up to make her the speaker, robbing one vote of the majority and effectively government back into minority.
We've seen scenario after scenario. We're the Labor Party in its multiple forms, no matter how many times it is rejected by the people of Tasmania, finding some way to try to blow up the government that got more votes, the party that got more votes. Now, since twenty and fourteen, Liberal and Labor governments have come and gone at the federal level, Yet the obvious choice of the biggest chunk of Tasmanians is that it should be a liberal who
is the premier. But we are in this ridiculous situation where the Labor Party and the Greens, who remember, have shown over how many terms, how many ways they have tried to cut the knees of the Liberals because they they took government away from diabolical coalitions of Labor and Greens in the many many years before all of that. How many times does TASMANI have to send the message
before Labor and the Greens back off. Well, the reality is that they think that, just like a toddler pistering you for a toy that they want or chocolates, that if they yell long enough, eventually they will get what they want.
Now, as you know, there.
Has been a no confidence motion that was expected to have passed today with the support of the Greens, many independents and the Labor Party. Now that has not taken place. In fact, it has now been adjourned until tomorrow. No doubt, frantic negotiations happening with the crossbench with the Greens.
But let's make this very clear.
The Labor Party can pretend that this is about oh, budgets, Budgets very important that we care about budgets. Mate, The federal government is running one te for trillion dollars debt. This government is absolutely running billions of dollars a debt, no question whatsoever. Tasmania being a smaller state with the population, it's capacity to pay it off anytime quickly undeniably difficult.
But let's be very serious.
The state Labor Party have tried to undermayre undermine not one, not two, but three three Liberal premiers in a row, effectively trying to become the government by stealing it without an election.
This is the latest reason.
As to why they believe there should be at the very least a removal of the premier at testing of the numbers, a chance for a new government to come in, or let's go off to an election. And then when the people get annoyed with having election after election after election, somehow they blame the Liberals, not Labor and the Greens for forcing them to vote over and over again.
When this premier got into the job, there was barely a billion dollars worth of net debt. Three years later we're on a pathway towards eleven billion dollars worth of net debt. It is staggering, extraordinary, reckless, irresponsible and how could anyone support that the largest cash deficits every year four ten years?
See what I'm holding it in? What sets me off about this bloke? And before that, Rebecca White. Rebecca White was a serial failure as the leader of the Labor Party in Tasmania. But she looks good on television. She's popular in the Seed of Lions. So now she's going to be part of the Federal Parliament, she'll immediately slot into the girl boss role and she will probably, like a Christina can early go way beyond her station or ability. But let's be very clear that people of Tasmania have
rejected them multiple times. The Labor Party kicked out one of its own leaders, yet still the public turned around and said, no, buggy, you were sending him back as an independent to the Parliament. If this bloke became premier, this Labor leader, along with the Greens, oh, they're going to say they're going to do something about debuty. You and I both know exactly what they're going to do. Well, we've had a look at the books and then they look they're far worse than we thought. So all of
the plans to change anything. Yeah, look, we'll get there eventually. And don't even get me started about this AFL stadium and the AFL team. Now, I have been very skeptical of this deal. I have spoken about how taxpayer's money is introgal to the existence not just of the stadium but also of the team. But the little doubt, the little detail they always leave out of this conversation is that Anthony Alberinezi and the federal government are also paying
for that stadium. They also support the team. Yet State Labor, who have always tried to take a position against the stadium because their support is in the south of the state not the north of the state, is that they
have believed that this never should have happened. The problem is Anthony Alberaneesi rolled into town at a time when the Liberal Party had multiple seats, especially across the top of the island, and now after a couple of electoral cycles, it is now Labor everywhere bar one independent, and that of course is Andrew Wilkie. So Labour is trying to bring this on because they think that the tide is so far out on the Liberals that they've lost all
of the federal seats. There that if there was an election to be called, then they would romp it in simply because they are team read Now, I'm not going to pretend that I know Tasmanian politics inside out. Will talk to somebody who does. But surely the people of Tasmania, who had a wonderful choice of One Nation or Jackie Lamby to send into the Senate, will not accept the re election of a Labor government brought about by them playing this game. But the reality is this is also
against the stadium Jackie Lamby. Guess who said that she's not going to be doing anything in state politics again, Jackie Lamby?
Do I believe her?
No?
Do I think that the vote that One Nation produced, along with the vote that has traditionally been for the Liberals in the north, would mean that probably the same, if not slightly better, might be the result for the Tasmanian Liberals at a next election.
Yeah.
Probably, But do not pretend there needs to be an election in Tasmania that does not. The only reason it is happening is because the Labor Party, for the third time to a third premier is trying to steal government. This is not standing up for budget discipline. This is a tantrum on its way towards trying to tantrum and bully their.
Way back into high power.
Now, if you thought labor in the Greens was a bad thing in Canberra, I'll give you the tip. It is horrific, so horrific in Tasmania that, regardless of how Australia, Tasmania has felt about the federal government at every state election since twenty fourteen, they have kept the Liberal premiere.
For his part, Jeremy Rockcliffe, Well, he's going to fight and we've had plenty of differences over the years and I don't know whether me backing him in is a good thing or not for him, But I'll say this, he was able to form the party with the biggest number of votes and the biggest number of seats to hold on to government for as long as possible. The idea of it being tipped out by bastards who have been trying to steal it for more than ten years is outrageous. This is what he had to say.
In Parliament today.
This day, it might not end well for me, but this day will define you. This day will define you exactly for the rest of your political career. Where you are now will have the stigma as leader of.
Being a wrecker.
One hundred percent. One hundred percent. Let's see what happens in the next twenty four hours. In the next few minutes, we'll talk to somebod who knows a lot more about TASMANI in politics. I'm'm missing something here. I get that there's personality issues from time to time. As it said, I butted heads with Jeremy Rockcliffe. But I'm sorry, this is a very very cheap way of trying to change your government. We'll all find out together in a couple
of minutes. All right, Now, we know the Prime Minister was distracting Australia and successfully say by telling lies during the election. This is all you'll need to see a doctor, despite the fact that what eighty five percent of doctor said, No, no,
you'll still need to bring your credit card. We know that Jim Chalmers, desperate to try to turn around from not being there for the majority of Australians when it came to cost of living, of course, was out and about pretending to be a member of the SEES when we all know he wasn't in the cyclone that of course was not as well. But all of this successfully was able to change the subject. Poles told us at the beginning of the year, we wanted to change your government.
Then a whole bunch of very deeply personal attacks, bs own goals and all the rest of it resulted in not a government going backwards, instead putting the accelerated down and getting as many seats in the Parliament as John Howard did in nineteen ninety five.
It is their time, but.
It just shows just how successful their ability to distract the Australian population from its reality actually was about how you can get away with anything if most of the media is on your side. The Australian economy is back where it was for the best part of the past
two years, where the average citizen was going backwards. The only reason the country was technically growing was because of the beatings of dollars being pittled up against the wall by the federal government on the federal government, by and for the federal government. Economic growth in Australia was looking okay towards the end of last year, but it was
pretty crappy for most of last year. This time last year, point one of one percent remember anything under zero, so say minus zero point one percent for two quarters in a row. That is a recession. We have been like a car idling at the lights in terms of growth point one point two point three. We did start to move at point six, but that's not massive. Well guess what, bang, we're straight back to where we were. The car is
stalling again. But oh, because we're talking about Peter Dutton bad and where's nuclear power going to go?
And there's a.
Problem with whomen all of the other garbage, all that other stuff, not to mention the behavior, yes of Donald Trump, and of course the reduction in interest rates in February. The reality is that Australia decided to rehire the authors
of this economy for the next three years. Well, today the headlines say it all that Australia is on the brink of a recession because literally, if the overall growth right now is zero point two, the chances of it going to zero point three or zero point one probably equal the idea of it going under that and us beginning the process of set of three months and another three set of three months for a recession.
Maybe. But of course, to talk about any of this during the campaign.
Was talking down the economy while the economy was going down. As the Daily Mail right about it today, Australia's on the brink of sliding back into another recession. Major blow to Anthony Aberneese's government. Of course, it doesn't matter because they're back in there, sitting pretty the opposition reduced to a rump barely holding itself together in terms of the coalition, but fared income, can we be very serious here about what.
Took place today?
The Australian economy is spluttering yet again, and of course the federal government. The only reason we are sitting at zero one zero two zero three is because of that government spending. That government spending that results in borrowed money, borrowed money that takes us from one trillion to one point two to one point five to one point seven to two trillion dollars debt, not one budget surplus for
the next forty years. Yet, because the people can be distracted, because the people can be lied to, because the media are part of that lie, they get away with it. Well as they were getting away with it, Australia's economy was starting to splutter or pull to a stop. Someone smarter than me can explain.
It was a fairly shabby number. We would have liked to have seen a higher growth figure for the quarter. Our own projections were for zero point three percent, so we expected a higher number, and that was after we revised our forecast down after some weak GDP partials that came out yesterday.
So it was a soft number.
Soft number feed inkin like as soft as soft could be tissue paper soft, right with the economy being a truck that's going to drive through it feeding. As for the treasure, of course, nothing to see here. I'm amazing, Thank goodness for voting for us. Did you remember how much I helped during the floods. I know it'll be me versus anaical worlds at the next run to be Prime minister, but remember me.
I'm the one who's saved Australia from me.
It's clear from this data that in the March quarter our growth was subdued in our economy, also clear that our economy is not productive enough. But I also wanted to offer this perspective when you look at these numbers today, no major advanced economy has our combination of unemployment in the low fource, inflation below two and a half percent, and three years of continuous growth.
This guy, Remember, his.
Doctorate is not in an economy, it's about in how to sell an economy, how to sell what Paul Kenning did in Australia, brought it up in droves and by the spoonful, couldn't get enough again blazon on the back of my the mob always gets it right. But these people lied their way. They absolutely lied their way in last time, and they trebled down this time, and the media absolutely helped.
Unbelievable.
Right, Well, the reality of the economy was it was spluttering.
Oh but that's all Donald Trump's stop.
Yeah, Okay, the stock market went down and there's now back to a record high. Now we like to talk about AI artificial intelligence because I don't know this part of this that is amazing and fun.
To play with and part of it that's a little bit scary.
Perfect example, when I was with the girls tonight, we were just mucking around with AI and they said, hey, Dad, can can you get touch ABT to make pictures of you? So here's one of me writing a cow. That's what Asher wanted to see, and then there's me riding a turtle and that's what Zadi wanted to see on TV. Then my wife for some reason said dolphin. So Shanni, there's me writing a dolphin on TV again. Fun right, like fun, cool thing.
To do, right. I don't want anyone creative to lose their job below.
Fun stuff you can do with AI. Reality though, is, of course, there are many, many, many people are very anxious about what it's going to do to employment. If things can be done very quickly by a computer that used to take a lot more time for human beings to do well, that is a world of pain. But one of the bobber boys of Anthony Abernezi, one of the old union heavies, which of course now means he's a senator. Senator Tim Ayres says this.
Is a perfect opportunity.
For unions, unions, the good old fashioned union to get involved now, despite the fact that when it comes to unions, you need to remember they're just seven point nine percent, less than eight percent of people in the public private sector. My apologies. If you work for the government, state or federal, thirty two percent of those people are part of a union. If you work for a business, less than eight we're
on this brand new technological age of AI. Yet the bother boy from a labor Party and the good old fashioned union boy in the Labor Party says no na the twenty first century, that's the time for the union
movement fdich. He was addressing a AI conference. This one was run by the Australian Financial Review in the Science and Industry Minister has signaled a bigger role for trade unions in influencing our Australian companies incorporate artificial intelligence advances into their workplace practices amid growing concerns that AI would
replace swedes of white collar jobs. Just before we get to his quote, come back to me for a second, because you want to know the idea of how some of this technology works when it comes to the dark eyed ages of the unions that are still running the show for the Labor Party. In twenty twenty five in New South Whales, they have invented this incredible new system
of metro lines. Metro lines that mean none of the train lines intersec like spaghetti any more, Meaning if there's a problem with this one, it doesn't affect that one. It is effectively an automatic system and they don't need drivers. Oh but the unions, the unions, they shut down the network week after week, day after day, took us back to the bloody eighteen twenties, and now there is a human being sitting in the front of a train of which the human being isn't driving. But that's the take
now of twenty first century. Freshly re elected, rejuvenated and reminted labor unions part of the future. When it comes to Ai, let's pick it up with his exact quote that he made to the conference Economic growth and productivity, and AI's role within that means so much in terms of the world of work, high wages, opportunity and social equity.
Now what does equity mean, kids?
Equity is different than equality because it means regardless of where you start, you all end in the same place. It doesn't matter whether you put all the effort in or four fifths of buggaraw, we all end up in the same place.
Perhaps the reason I'm wearing the red jacket, that's.
What these people are about. Freshly re elected because people fell for the medicare garbage or the scares or the own goals or the failures of the opposition of the last election. Faed ink Anyway, Dave Sharma, he pushes back here, but I'll tell you a bit more about sorry, I confuse my own team there, Dave Sharma. He says Tim Ayres is wrong. Union should not control AI use in workplace. It is retrograde and risks Australia falling behind the rest
of the world. In the embrace and exploitation of AI, it threatens to turn artificial intelligence to a tool to be exploited by unions In industrial relations bargaining, it sets up an unhelpful dynamic suggesting that business will gain but workers will lose from artificial intelligence. In fact, as the historical record of new technology suggests, workers stand to gain as much from tools to make their lives easier and their time more productive. Let's talk about what is taking
place in Tasmania right now, guys. My apologies here, which is I want to talk to Matthew Denham. Matthew Dinam is writing for the Australian newspaper about what is taking place when it comes to Tasmania and its politics, and he joins us, now, thank you very much, Matthew. So stay of execution for twenty four hours is the expectation that the premiere is trying to work over the Greens to push them back unlikely or work over the crossbrench or double check whether he's ready to go to an election.
By lunchtime to morrow, we'll.
Look probably a little bit of both of those things. I think there's still probably a little bit of a hope that the cross Bench might go a week at the knees between now and tomorrow when the vote should finally be taken after a very long day to day. But really I think that's a pretty slim hope. So really, you know, you've got this kind of standoff. Really you've got a premier who's lost the confidence of the House.
On the one hand, he's refusing to resign and is you know, saying he's going to force an election rather than resign. And on the other hand, you've got Labor, the cross Bench and the Greens refusing to back down
on their no confidence motions. So those two things will probably collide tomorrow and it's hard to see an avoidance of a state election unless someone gives ground, unless the Premier resigns or the Liberal Party decides that they will replace him to stay in office with a different leader. And the governor will have something to say about this as well. Was actually the acting governor because the Governor's away at the moment. So it's all pretty fluid at the moment here.
Wow, I'll tell you what.
Look, it might be an awful lot of kilometers that you've got to cover, but there's many balls in the air right now. But where's the governor, the Phillin governor, all the rest of it?
Here?
Look again, I mean you know where I'm coming from, which is somebody towards the said right of Australian politics. But what annoys me here is that what we are seeing play out in Tasmania is a result of minority government. It's a minority government, not of one or two, it's
a minority government of the best part of four. That means that the Lambie people who broke away from the Lambey Parliament, who basically a newbies and frankly still probably don't know where the toilets are right now, are understandably fired up. There are some betrayals that have happened when it comes to this government. But am I right in part of my assessment here that labor how many times over how many terms have tried to disrupt or knock
over a sitting re elected government. Here we saw it when it came to Sue Hickey becoming the speaker. We've seen it in my view multiple times before. Will Hodgman, of course had to fight two elections to be out in his own ryle and that's when the Hamburglar incident took place. Why is it so unstable there? And will the Tasmanian people look poorly on Labor if we have to have an election because of this?
Yeah?
Well on that last point, you know both the leaders, both Jeremy Rockcliffe for the Liberal premier and Dean went to the Labor leader. They're both kind of already trying to play the blame game and blame each other for the election if it does occur. You know, it's only fifteen or less than fifteen months is the last one, So it's going to be deeply unpopular, right, Tasmanians have voted federally Lessle of Council election and now potentially another
state election. So the blame game has already started in case that does eventuate tomorrow. But really, you know, I don't think Labor, I personally, I don't think Labor expected an election to be on the cards. They thought this was more about potentially you know, wedging the cross bench, forcing them to kind of disassociate from the Liberal government which they prop up and also perhaps you know, getting rid of Rockliffe, so delivering a wound but not actually
killing the government. So I don't think they really expected it, you know, the Liberal Party to unite behind Rockcliffe in
the way they have so far. Having said that, you know, it's it's a long time between now and tomorrow morning and little Ane tomorrow afternoon if it goes that long, so who knows, We could see, we could see the Liberals to side to persuade Jeremy to move on in order to avoid a state election, because you're right, Tasmanians don't want another election and you know it's costly, it's not good for business confidence and the electoral system here,
you know, going back to your original question, you know it's the hair clerk proportional representation system. So you know, in a very pure sense it's quite democratic, but it's it does make for minority governments and they can can be unstable from time to time.
Now, I know it's impossible to set upside the past eighteen months in just this discreet little TV hit, but I mean you've seen plenty are things as out of control as to deserve this moment because we know, of course, way back in the nineteen seventies it was it was very significant, you know, for a bill not to be able to pass through to become a law, or the budget papers and all that stuff when it came to whitlam. But yes, government debt bad, no question. Buggarizing around when
it comes to ferries not good. But it's not deep corruption. It's not you know, acts of criminality. We are talking here, you know, frankly about what are they going to be really going to fire up about a stadium of which the federal Labor Party is backing in here? I mean, look, I know they're making the most of the numbers around them. Is it fair for me to observe and say, look, is there a fire burning?
You bet you? Is it structural? Probably not?
Yeah.
Look, I think even you know, a Labor Party that initiated this motion would would not be alleging malfeasans or corruption. Really, their claim is incompetence basically, and to be fair, there is quite a bit of ammunition to support that claim. You know, they wasted millions, tens and millions or more, you know, building new ships and they're not bothering to actually have an infrastructure any war for them to dock
at them, and it's just crazy stuff. And obviously they're doubling state debt from five billion to ten billion in a matter of years, and the stadium has some you know, he has some strong support, but also a lot of detractors, and you know he's going to cost a lot of money at the same time as that debt's going up. So there are some real issues. But you're right now on so alleging malfeasance by any means. It's more about
the competence of the government. And as I said, Labour's aim I think was to kind of novel the premiere and they thought perhaps Eric Kabbats or one of the Conservatives would take over and that they might be less palatable to the electroate. But that may still happen, but at the moment we seem to be inching towards the state election very very slowly. Yeah, sometime tomorrow maybe I get the.
Sense of it, and I look forward to seeing you on the trail. Thank you so much, matter to.
Appreciate it you book. Keep reading you in the Australian newspaper. What a fascinating thing there, Matthew Din.
Of course, with the information coming out off Tasmania election by this time tomorrow or a new premier, we'll all find out together.
But either way, Labor hang your head in shame. No matter how this results.
If you end up winning every seat in the parliament, what a disgrace, truly disgraceful. We'll find out what I panel think next to you on Paul Murray Live and then Meghan Kelly before we're done, depending on where you're watching us. It's bloody cold right now. We'll get even colder tonight, particularly in and around parts of New South Wales. The snow is making its way. Of course this weekend King's Birthday weekend, regardless of when his birthday actually is.
Happy birthday, Chuck. We'll take the long weekend. But it's the start of the ski season, so yes, it's very cold.
Scotty's Weather will explain what happens next.
We did see a dusting over the last thirty six hours, but there's could be a lot more than that. With this system coming through from Saturday, we'll start seeing snow that blue line anytime it's across the resorts. That means snow will be falling below fourteen hundred meters. Most of the models are indicating between thirty and seventy seven meters of snow for all of the major ski resorts.
Now the Australian Institute of Sport ruled me to be an unco back as a kid. That continues to be reaffirmed and any opportunity I've got anywhere near it. It is confirmed Stephen Conroy loves the world of skiing, so that's why I give him a little bit of information. He's just here to help. And Lucy's early. How good to have her here too. Where are you on the snow sports? Are you the type of person who loves it?
Or like me? And I'll just have a smoke next.
To the five let me tell you when the Winter Olympics, Paul in first and foremost, thank you for giving me the opportunity. Happy to have here program, and I know that mister Conroy there also loves his football too. We're had a similar journey over the years. But when it comes to ski sports, I would love to sit by the fire like you and happy to tune into the Winter Olympics and barrack for Australia correct.
But Stephen, though he's licking his lips, how good it is going to be now speaking of what the hell is happening in Tasmania? Right now, Stephen, where let's be honest right now? Okay, you know we know the history that is taught the left wing version of the dismissal in and around the seventies, of course reaffirmed by the Australian public. This always left out of the textbooks, not
once but twice after that moment. But now we're going to have a scenario where Labour, who've tried to kneek up the Libs for multiple times in Tasmania, look like they might get there, and we're off to an election and who knows the whole joint's read at the federal so who knows what's going to happen at the state election. But do you agree with me that perhaps we should actually save these moments for when something maybe criminal has happened,
something borderline criminal has happened. Because of pissing money against a wall is a reason to get rid of a government? Can you join me down at Government House in Victoria tomorrow morning.
Well, look, firstly, Paul, just to correct one of your analogies. In ninety seventy five, the Senate blocked. Supply correct, the House of Representatives, the chamber in which government is formed, had nothing to do with the blocking and bringing down of the government. What you have in Tasmania is a lower House that they decided they wanted to expand the number. I thought it was brave slash courageous to borrow.
From so Humbri.
And what this has led to is neither party was going to go close to a majority. So you were never going to have, as you had under the old parliament, an easy path to thirteen seats or what is it now, seventeen lives out thirty five. So this was a decision. Yeah, this was a decision taken by the Tasmanian Liberal government and it's ultimately come back to bite them. So, I mean, sometimes,
you know, karma really does catch up with you. But people told them this would happen, said you won't form a majority, and now it's the floor of the house in which you choose the government. And I think this is a monumentally incompetent government.
Yeah, fine, fair enough, but an election is supposed to But I'm saying elections are supposed to solve that, aren't they lucy? Not the numbers on the floor. Now again we saw there was the minority government that's existed for multiple state governments all over the shop. For the Gillard government, Yes, constant pressure, but you've really got to pick your moment for when you want to pull one of these things on.
And unless you've got an unless you've actually got a plan to turn around the thing that you're claiming is broken.
And I don't think this bloke's got any idea.
We're starting a ten billion dollars debt, So why don't we talk about all the other states and territories that are experiencing monumental debt? Why do we talk about the federal debt that we're now staring down the barrel of
which is one point trillion dollars of debt? Why didn't we issue were no confidence vote in Victoria with Dan Andrews after the you know, the the lunatic if I could call him that as respectfully, but you know, after that lunatic totally destroyed the city right through the COVID period. What about the monumental debt that's been left for David Chris of Fooley from the former Labor government in Anastasia Palache.
So really to wish you are no confidence vote over something like this, and to think that the Liberal Party could lose its leadership over, let's be frank, a very controversial decision and to quote Jackie Lamby, stick your stadium up your butt. I mean, come on. And Andrew Bolt rightly said, is this woman ever going to be able to just kind of rein it in a little bit because although.
She has been rewarded, well, she does.
But maybe she is speaking to a core constituent of people who finally feel as though they're also being seen because we're getting so caught up in political speak here, but I think to drag Tasmanians through this circus, who are also the same time having to fend off, you know, threats from Tanya Plibask over the salmon farming and the threat to five thousand jobs already they've been through enough.
But also there's such a North South divide and this is part of the extra members in parliament which helped produce those extra members, particularly those extras. When it comes to Lamby that she wasn't able to hold on to is it literally? Look and I love Tasmania. Right, this is nominally bad and it's just saying literally when there is a public holiday for the southern half of Tasmania that's at a different time of the year to the one for northern Tasmania. Okay, so their politics and many
other things end up being quite divided. Everyone's heard the number so far tonight, nine billion dollars in counting. Wow, some of these climate change bills. Again, as Andrews said today, remember when Kevin Rudd said it would just cost a dollar, just a dollar per person. Reality though, is we can't hide from it. Loose Australia rehired them and how.
Well this is the problem, right, is that they won the election based on not just lies surrounding medi scare nuclear energy, which they said was going to cost you know, upwards of six hundred billion dollars.
That was a lie.
But they won the election in the face of a cost of living crisis, having spent four hundred million dollars on the failure of the voice, a housing crisis, one point one point one million people coming through the gates you're in Australia, which I would deem an immigration crisis because what is it then done Paul. The consequence of it has been further pressure on our medical system and
our house price. It's got longer, every queue got longer, right, And so they were able to successfully win in the face of all of this, which is actually terrifying when you think about it, and it's something that you also pushed in the lead up through the election campaign. Do you research, know who you're voting for? Look at your preference cars, it'd seem what's just happened in the Sea
of Bradfield correct, which is very interesting as well. And some of these votes not being countered because preferences weren't correctly entered. So there's so much to think about in all of this. But the fact that it's nine billion dollars now and it's increased in that period in the last decade from six hundred million to that now is just it's a shameful, shameful exercise, this pursuit of ned zero.
But Stephen, is the reality that hey, ninety five seats, we went up, we didn't go backwards.
The know not that it matters.
The first pole post election shows, you know, it's one hundred and ten percent to minus four hundred percent. I think they got the North Korean counters to come in and have a look at that. But I mean still it's it's huge amounts of money. Again, if we're talking about you, Tazzy, government's going to get rolled over ten billion dollars. This is nine billion dollars in one year.
Which is still an awful lot less than the six hundred billion dollars the opposition went to the government went to the government, all right, I will use David lil Proud's number, three hundred billion dollars. You started his number, said publicly no, but I'm prepared to say we'll concede that three hundred billion dollars to do the nuclear conversion. So nine billion it's a bit less.
But the cso that that that that changing from the system that we've had to the three wheel car now used to be a trillion, Now it's half a trillion dollars. Three hundred billion would be less than half a trillion, right, we agree, and that basic maths.
No, Unfortunately, this sense reward does not say.
Oh, hang on that it's now half a trillion and it's five hundred billion dollars to the cost of transitional sentity is the Energy Works report.
That there's a transition. Transition is different from the actual cost of the build, okay, and the Liberals have not costed their transition. Okay, they got to three hundred or six hundred, depending on who you want to believe. With our covering transmission is imagine what it would have been with transmission.
Scrub the deflection though, Stephen, because at the end of but at the end of the day, mate, we're talking in semantics. We've got a moratorium. We can't even have a discussion about nuclear in this country right, so we can't even put it out to market to talk about that. Let's talk about the nine.
Billion doll It wasn't going to market.
We're staring down.
Going to market.
Well, it should go out to.
The Liberal Party policy with the government.
One hundred dollars policy voice. Why don't we actually spend money on a referendum on energy and let the Australian people decide once and for all so we can finally have some certainty around the direction this country is going in with energy. We look at our allies across the UK and the US, they have bipartisan support for nuclear energy.
There is an understanding even those radical lunatics, the Democrats can agree that nuclear is the right path forward, and we are sitting here still debating on whether or not renewable energies is costing us billions of dollars it is.
That's a face I've got to get to.
Give me thirty seconds, Stephen.
I'm glad. I'm glad you haven't got on in the year twenty forty.
Look at that, not even going.
To twenty forty to get cheaper power, beells and electricity.
On getting those transmission lines up twenty forty. Thank you, build off all the farmland, mister Conroy.
I love these too. Rip it in. I can hear you cheering from home. Thank you, Lucy, Thank you, Steven. Meghan Kelly is next. We just keep getting better and better. And dollo dalad, how are you saying to sea.
Our favorite time of the week to talk to our favorite person in the world, the one, the only, Meghan Kelly rockstar.
How's your week been?
It's been spectacular.
How's yours made?
Very good?
Now let's get to the biggest story in the world right now. This is the one I want to set the record straight, which is that I was watching your show and I have seen you calling out beyoncey for stealing content from our conversations.
Beyonce, who's on some world tour right now reinventing herself as a country star, is running video tape during the show of yours. Truly, I believe it is a clip from me on the Paul Murrie's show out of Sky News Australia, which I do once a week because I
adore him. Yes, believe it or not. In addition to all your great viewers, Beyonce is watching and she's got tissue paper thin skin, and was very deeply offended Paul that we had a discussion not recognizing Queen Bay as the new ruler of country music, that we might have had a couple of doubts about whether she would revolutionize this genre that's been around for a long time before she decided to stick her toe into it and she decided to take that clip and parley it into her victimhood.
How people have doubted her as she becomes the country queen.
Now, I'm sorry, I'm a Chris Stipleton manor Rod hardcore every word, every album, every song, Rod.
I can't stand that.
You know Fawn fair enough, She's in the finals when it comes to the Grammys of you know, a country Artist of the EO Country Album of the Year.
She made Chris Stipleton not acceptable, not okay.
Just because you dress up like a country star does not make you a country star.
Cash cash old. If Chris Stapleton had married jay Z, he would have had it. These things are bought and paid for. I mean, it's really obvious. And all of her marketing is bought and paid for by jay Z. If you married jay Z, you could be as big a star as Beyonce. And how do I know that, Paul, no offense. But if you look at her now, it's tough to tell the two of you apart, it's Beyonce. It's not today what she used to be.
Wow.
Still she gets this glowing coverage everywhere because she's Queen Bee. Because these two run around like a couple of mob bosses. If you write something bad about them, and there's certainly people in the music industry who need ongoing access have to all hail and bend the knee at the altar of these two. Well, guess what, I don't need you at all. I'm not at your altar. I'm not on
my knee. You didn't revolutionize country music. You're a glomer who used other people's big hits and catchy tunes to try to jump in last minute. Thanks to jay Z's marketing, it looks like a success, but that's true of her underlying career too. I don't like her music, I don't like her dance routines, and I don't like what she's let happen to her. And that's my opinion. Take that and put it up on your next Real Beyonce, I love it.
We have a term in Australia for people who complain like this sucks all right, sounds like that she and the blood that they're just giants, sooks, babies, you know, as they carry on all right. Now we know that the second Elon Musk came into Donald Trump's orbit, there was an obsession with trying to break them up, or looking for signs of them breaking up.
He's you know, come.
You know he's been from you know, as you say, a tissue paper a distance between them. He's done his job. I punished him, blew up his cars. Now he's gone back to the private sector and today's decided. He's tweeting that he doesn't like the budget. That is currently being pushed through. Now what annoys me about this is that it plays into this constant obsession of the left trying to get into the will they won't they break up? Will they won't they ever be on the same side.
Elon Musk ain't going back to the left.
All right.
He might have the Harry hits with some of the things that are in the budget, but sorry, dims, he ain't coming back.
There's just such a nasty, petty group of people. You know. I don't blame Elon for objecting to the big beautiful bill. There's a ton in there of spending that we cannot afford. You know, Trump made a lot of promises when he was running for president that now he's trying to keep in the form of this bill. So I mean, in one way, good on him, but in another, holy shit, if we can't afford this. So that's what Elon is
reacting to. He was sent in there to go try to find a bunch of fat ways, fought fraud and a brute abuse so that he could slim the federal budget and help balance the budget in that way, and it didn't work. That's the truth. He tried. Doge is still trying, but what we're learning is the forces in
Washington are just too strong. They're too dug in. The courts stopped him, the bureaucracy stopped him, and ultimately the press helped stop him by ruining his other businesses to the point where he had no choice but to go back to manning them full time and giving up being at the helm of Doge. What Elin ultimately said is like his verdict was, I've realized it can only be done by spurring GDP. That's our only way out of
this thirty seven trillion dollars of debt. We have no choice but to double down on our work ethic and try to power up the engines that have always powered the American economy. We're not going to do it by cutting spending because there's no desire and there's too many obstacles.
So sad, it's kind of a sad verdict. At the end of Elon's Doge term, you would think that maybe some on the left would think, God, I was such an ass I behave terribly with one of the world's richest men and most brilliant humans ever to walk this little sphere we all live on, volunteered to do public service, and he's an eccentric. Look at his personal life. Look
at yes, I believe the drug use. But he wanted to work for me and for you and to just help find efficiencies in this massive business we call the United States. And instead of saying thank you, we put our boot on his forehead and shoved him back down the slide.
She's a base. Can you believe it?
Beyonce I beyonce I putting up video of Megan from this little tab program.
Say the whole world is watching.
The whole world is isn't a grinthumbe protest thing?
Good one to sac believe it or not?
What you are seeing here is something that is many hundreds of millions of dollars in the making. But what is it? It is an electric plane. It landed in New York today.
Pilot plus four forty five minutes.
The future of aviation is clearly not long distance just yet, but on its way electric planes still in the United States, Let's talk about their greatest president of all time, the one who was able to not just defy the critics, but to defyre gravity. Joe Biden, of course, the only man to fall up the stairs well when he was in office, you know, as always President, Well, it grabs
a pen signs all of the different orders. Only problem is there was thousands and thousands of thousands of documents which were signed with a machine, an autopen.
Like the electronic version of the etcher sketch. If you may remember that president from way back when.
Well, among the people whose legal pardons from the President were approved by the machine, not the guy clearly left alive by a machine was his son Hunter Biden. Today we learned that the Trump administration, people in Congress and even the Department of Justice is now trying to double check. But simply if a machine signs the piece of paper argue immune from prosecution, who knows if it is or isn't. But it's a fun question to ask, because they did today at the White House, these last.
Minute fading parts, the big ones Biden siblings Fauci January sixth Committee, Most of the big ones had the same very neat signature boot expect that probably to be the.
Heart on that. Now.
I don't know if I can show you that again but without the sound. But do you like the reporters that are sitting next to him going, oh, I've got to sit next to the Fox News guy who's got a really good question and he's got a prop as well. Look at them, Look at at the passive aggressive carry on from the mate, Steve, Well done, go the deuce. As for Carolyn Leavitt, of course, the spokesperson for the president, she said, thank you for a question.
I will now kick from goal in front.
It's very interesting, very interesting props. If you want to bring them to my office later so I can take a closer look, I would like to do that. The President is making a good point when he discusses the usage of the autopen who was running the country for the past four years. Perhaps those documents were signed with
the autopen. Something that this I believe the Department of Justice is looking into, as you saw Ed Martin made an announcement at the Department of Justice this morning to launch an investigation because the American people deserve answers, eh and every time.
And they, oh, but we're going to talk about a long because aren't they breaking up? No, it just disagrees with the big beautiful bill all right. I met for a long waken after a bit of a run. When it comes to the election time, Olivia, the Haynes of James morro and I'll say you next week.