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Labor's lie about the power prices, Palestinians to be given permanent visas to settle in Australia. Plus, a former Victorian Supreme Court judge proposes housing be treated as a human right.

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Speaker 1

From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

Speaker 2

Thank you Duneka, thank you James, and welcome to the start of another big.

Speaker 1

Week here on Pomme Live.

Speaker 2

Remember you can always seriously the show and never forget. The podcast is also available if for whatever reason you happen to miss it Gold, Silver or Bronze, feel free go to skynies dot com dot Au. Now let's go back to the issue that I know plenty of Australians worried about, not just cost of living, but specifically the cost of power. Now, for obvious reasons, it's not up to you whether you opt in or out of this system.

If you want the lights to work, then you have to pay the basic fees to be able to get access to the networking.

Speaker 1

And it feels like no matter how stingy you are with the number of lights that.

Speaker 2

Are on, or how long you run the air conditioner or which hour of which day, the bills just.

Speaker 1

Keep going up. But that's something I want to talk about tonight.

Speaker 2

What I want to talk about tonight is the latest policy from the Labor Party that is about your power bill. Now, remember May twenty twenty two, This was the promise if you voted for the Labor.

Speaker 3

Party deducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars.

Speaker 4

By twenty twenty five, two hundred and seventy five dollars a year.

Speaker 3

Two hundred and seventy five dollars a year will.

Speaker 4

Get power prices down by two hundred and seventy five dollars a year.

Speaker 2

Now, that policy was always never going to happen, which means it was a lie, at the very least a broken promise. But of course nobody in the press gallery is going to call it a broken promise, because after all, this is the reason why the thing they promised has not happened.

Speaker 4

The number you're referring to is a forecast in twenty one about an outcome in twenty five. We're providing energy bill relief in the here and now, we did in the last budget, we are again in the next budget. But there'll be more relief for more people in this budget.

Speaker 2

So just the modeling hand change ever so slightly, so it doesn't really count. Imagine we will stop the boats. The boats don't just keep coming, they get worse on But the modeling that we've done on the boats, we can't promise to stop them anymore then. Of course at this budget there was seventy five dollars every three months, twenty five dollars every month, a promise which will only go for one year.

Speaker 4

From July one, Australians will receive an energy rebate of three hundred dollars and one million small businesses will get a little bit more.

Speaker 2

Yeah, thanks, scoop. You maybe we'll be saying we've heard all of this before, Paul. Why the start of tonight's show will let me explain, of course, Chris Bowen, who believes that well every solution is renewable energy and there's no cost of transition, there's only the consequence of transition. Well, he's got his knickers in a twist today and he got a bit of help from a very friendly journalist today, very friendly journalist today, because Peter Dutton had said this at the Liberal parties.

Speaker 5

Chris Bowen was part of the team with Anthony Obernezi that promised on ninety seven occasions before the election to reduce power prices by one hundred.

Speaker 1

And seventy five dollars.

Speaker 5

Since then, power prices have gone up by one thousand dollars.

Speaker 1

Now you and I know this to be the truth. You and I know, and I said.

Speaker 2

This at the time when they were making up that half a million jobs were going to fall from the sky and two hundred seventy five dollars power bill reduction off where we were in May of twenty twenty two, that if you can find the bill from just before the last election, and if the power bill was two hundred and seventy five dollars lower than that number, then you should definitely vote labor.

Speaker 1

But we all know way higher. Now.

Speaker 2

Quite amazingly, there are people like Chris Bowen who are trying to pretend that no, no, the number can be nowhere near what we are saying here. It can be nowhere near one thousand dollars, because if you actually have a look at the retail price of this state, to the point being, of course, that one hundred dollars each and every month extra ends up being one thousand dollars extra that you've had to pay. But via a very friendly journalist today, Chris Bowen is.

Speaker 1

Out right saying not true.

Speaker 2

So first the promise was we're going to reduce it by two seventy five. Then the modeling changed, which means the promise was never real. Then they came up with the band aid to get them through an election, and now it's just.

Speaker 1

Na not true. I know you are, but what am I?

Speaker 2

This is the political genius, the four D chess that goes on in the mind of the climate change minister, he.

Speaker 1

Said to the paper.

Speaker 2

So this was all a whole sort of stitch up from the Channel one newspapers today.

Speaker 1

This was their story they.

Speaker 2

Came up with, or they were echoing the story that was coming their way from the minister. They claim it's only about.

Speaker 1

Four hundred and fifty dollars.

Speaker 2

Bowen told this masthead that Dutton did not quote, have a single data point to support his claim. It's just a deliberate lie when it comes to energy. I find that Peter Dutton just makes things up. Oh you want to go there about who's just making stuff up?

Speaker 1

In this conversation.

Speaker 2

Now we know that the Prime Minister and his climate change minister, they believe that Australia must reduce forty three percent of one percent of global emissions. China, of course, can do whatever it wants and increase the level thirty times more than we do between now and twenty thirty to get there in part, as you know, we can just completely change from one electricity grid to another one that won't be as reliable. But don't tell anyone. There's

no cost of transition. Everything is awesome. Everything is a shiny or windy day now. Interestingly, Bowen, when talking about the two seventy five stuff and his pushback on it, gives us a little bit of detail that we didn't know at the time. You see the Prime Minister and albow Long said yeah, two seventy five, and they made this announcement when they named their policy in twenty twenty two. But have a look today again in the very friendly

article that was there for anyone to see. It's modeling the impact of our policies done in twenty twenty for five years into the future. So this is interesting. They had the number and they were sitting on it since twenty twenty. They only announced it twenty twenty two, knowing that the time had already started to run out on it. There would be challenges as we've come to office, like the ongoing energy crisis around the world, like the impact of a war on Ukraine.

Speaker 1

Only problem is, as I've told you many.

Speaker 2

Times before, the announcement of the target and the over commitment when it came to renewables. It took place just before the election in twenty twenty two. But guess what, it also happened before Ukraine invaded Russia. Sorry, the other way around, I apologize. Russia invaded Ukraine. So the reality is that this doesn't even work. See, they told us two seventy five, they had known that the invasion was part.

Speaker 1

Of the picture.

Speaker 2

Yet of course they pay no attention whatsoever. Instead, of course, the Liberal Party quite correctly turns around and says that the CSIRO they told us it was a trillion dollars, then half a trillion dollars. Green groups have told us

two trillion dollars. But the whole point is to go from the system that was our main electricity network to the one that they hope to be the electricity network into the future, so that we can cut forty three percent of one percent of global emissions, so they can bid for a UN Climate conference, so we can do our bit for climate change. It look cost well, at

least are trillion dollars. This is in part what the liberal parties say about why your bills have gone through the roof because you see the very energy companies that have to spend all of that money, Well, they have to eventually charge somebody for it.

Speaker 1

I guess did they charge us?

Speaker 6

Anthony ALBERNIZI was telling them he was going to reduce power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars each year, and instead the power prices have gone up by one thousand dollars. And the renewables only approach of the government, it's just not working.

Speaker 2

And then this time last week and again look I get it, there's the big event, you know, the sporting carnival, athletics carnival happening right now in Paris, where majority of people are. But it is extraordinary how the people whose job it is to talk about politics never call out the context, the reality or the lie of this government. They also very selective in the types of polling that

starts to echo around the universe. It means that the only time you're going to start to hear some of this stuff is if you watch programs like this, which is ironically why the very same people who don't do the job are the ones who would most like us to be pushed off the air.

Speaker 1

Jeez, No, connection whatsoever.

Speaker 2

Well, remember last week James Morrow wrote an excellent piece in the Daily Telegraph, in the Herald Sun and in the Courier Mail. According to the research which had been revealed by the polling firm Redbridge, fifty four percent of all voters agree with the statement that labours rush to increase the amount of wind and solar is driving bills and I quote through the roof. Fifty four percent of Australians agree with that sentiment, which means they agree with

our argument, which means they are following the data. Yet of course no one anywhere in and around the press gallery.

Speaker 1

Could possibly double check to push forward, because of course.

Speaker 2

The narrative is that anyone other than those who believe we should have made the change yesterday is somehow anti climate change. No the cost of transition, let alone the change to the atmosphere, to the landscape, etc.

Speaker 1

Etc. Of many places in regional Australia's what's worth noting here.

Speaker 2

Again, back to that arguicle, though some fifty nine percent of people whose houses have less than one thousand dollars a week coming in, fifty nine percent agree with the sentiment that the bills are going through the roof because of their policies. But you know, nothing to see here. Apparently it's all just a lie. Now, I'm so tired of this. We see it everything from the American election,

state politics, and our federal politics. Which is that when you saw what you saw between with your own eyes, you heard what you heard with your own ears, you.

Speaker 1

Have read and seen and lived the experience.

Speaker 2

I don't know, it's all just a lie because apparently everything magically went down by what they promised, that they turned out had two fingers behind their back when they made the promise, or it's all completely papered over with a less than twelve month solution, which by the way, applies to the biggest mansion to the tiniest of houses, all the same three hundred bucks.

Speaker 1

Nothing to see.

Speaker 2

Now, Let's talk about Tony Burke, because there's a bit around him today. Tony Burke, of course, who is the Arts Minister who's in charge of the borders, because he's also the Home Affairs Minister, because of course they're the same job, aren't they. He just got the job last week and he's already starting to fiddle around on things on the edges, including an interesting move to give permanent, permanent visas to people who had come from Palestine in

the past couple of months, since Israel's response to October seventh. Now, what I find interesting about this is for obvious reasons, they are saying the reason people can't go home is because there is no home to go to. I mean, anyone, regardless of your interpretation, your perspective, you would know that like building after building after building has to been completely

pummeled in and around places like Gaza. Now, normally people would end up getting not permanent but temporary protection visas until the war ended. But no, funnily enough, Tony Burke has found a way to make the maybe into permanent. This is what he said today here on Schoing News.

Speaker 7

People arrived on visitor visas and the government was right to use that visa. It was the easiest visa to be able to deal within a situation of absolute immediate crisis. Where now in a situation where over time those visas are reaching their expiring date and there's a decision of government that hasn't been taken yet. So I don't have an announcement to be able to make, but a decision of government as to what the next step is for those individuals.

Speaker 2

But see what's particularly cute about this announcement. And look, obviously I want people to be safe. If they decide and would like to stay here longer than the conflicts taking place, good luck to them, right as long as they make all of the checks. I've got no problems with that. But what I find quite infuriating is the slipperiness of this blow. And he's going to be hailed a good performer. But you see, there used to be

the temporary visa or visitors visa. There used to be, of course, the temporary protection visa, and then there was the full time visa. Well, this government of course got rid of the bit in the middle, taking out one

of the three things holding up operation sovereign borders. So essentially the choices are the short term visa, which mostly tourists would use, or trump straight over to the full time Because many people came in on the visitors visa, they're starting to run out rather than just reissuing that visa, I don't know, We're just got to automatically move to the permit solution here.

Speaker 1

Again, this has nothing to do.

Speaker 2

With the cohort or the reason they are here, but about the rather not so subtle games being played by a bloke who will just play the same straight bat that again, we have seen how many times from how many politicians where now you just never meet your wrong, never meet your wrong, no matter what happens, never meet you're wrong.

Speaker 1

And then we wonder why.

Speaker 2

People get frustrated and they end up turning two different political options than the more traditional ones. There's putting your scene in all of this watch it now. Interestingly, though interestingly, Tony Burke was being discussed as a potential prime minister today in some of the press, and this of course

will be news to some people like the Prime Minister. Now, the Prime Minister has every expectation that he win the next twenty eight elections and he'll live forever and everyone loves him, and therefore he will be the first person to leave after his fifteenth election and he won't suffer the same fate every other politician always ends up suffering, which is the ate their choice when they eventually end up going well, of course, the assumption would be that Grimjim,

the Treasurer, who's done so much to solve cost of living, hasn't he Well, he's of course the bloke who well, he just would slide in straight in there in fifteen elections time. Now, of course, on there his own assumption. He's not a guy who can do things by harves. In fact, in a very friendly profile piece which was delivered again by the Channel nine newspapers, here was that he doesn't do anything in moderation.

Speaker 1

You see, this is why he got off the booze. Interestingly, just there was a couple of paragraphs there.

Speaker 2

I remarked that there was a bit of talk about cutting a bit loose socially my words around Parliament House because I was drinking too much.

Speaker 1

He answers bluntly, Was it another reason for you giving it up? Not really, I knew that if I wanted.

Speaker 2

To do a big, serious job, I couldn't keep drinking six or seven nights a week. Basically, there's a lot of weight in some of those words, in some of those sentences inside a couple of those paragraphs. What does cutting a bit loose socially mean? But of course it doesn't matter. We don't follow that.

Speaker 1

There's nothing in the past, there's nothing in the future, there's nothing in the present.

Speaker 2

Everything's fine. We all just keep moving forward. So you would think it's Jim Chalmers, right, But no, no, apparently it's going to be Tony Burke, who is next in line to Elbow's throne again in fifteen elections time.

Speaker 1

I wouldn't dare want to suggest that this is a.

Speaker 2

Prime minister whose current approval rating is oh, that's right, lower than his approval rating is his disapproval? Oh sorry, so more people disapprove of our bow, more people.

Speaker 1

That's not true. Oh, it's true in the news poll, it's true in what all the other ones? That's not possible.

Speaker 2

Well, apparently Tony Burke, according to someone writing a thing in the fin Review today, has his eyes on a job that comes after Home Affairs now, of course, after he's been in the job for fifteen elections in a row. But Burke is sure to receive more of the sky after dark treatment by virtue of his portfolio and a

possible future contender for labor leadership. You see, what a nice little way again for a sentence to do a lot of lifting here, to do a lot of the carrying of the point that's trying to be made here. Oh so subtly is that you see those of us in sky in his primetime. Who are the ones who point out things like the reason you've moved people to permanent status is because you knocked out the temporary status. I no, no, we're only doing that because apparently he's

a potential labour PM. No, it's just because it's the truth. And I don't care what bs they want to serve everyone else or what other drip feed every other journalist is on. We will tell you the truth about what they are doing, which is why I always say.

Speaker 1

That they're going to win fifteen elections in a row rule forever. Right.

Speaker 2

But then Spira thought for old mate Chris Bowen. I mean, he's just he's doing the lord's work at the moment, isn't he saving Australia from forty three percent of one percent of global emissions? The one who just says that even if your power bill has been going.

Speaker 1

Up, No, no, that's just all a lie. They just make stuff up.

Speaker 2

Now, remember after the two and nineteen debacle where Chris Bowen successfully advised people that if they didn't like some of the tax policies of the Labor government, all supported by the way by Albert Burke and everyone else. But memory hole, none of this matters, None of this matters. He of course ran for the Labor leadership. Here he was out the front of his house, I think in twenty nineteen, an old family house of course. Oh, because I'm one of you and you're one of me. Right Anyway,

he withdrew from the race within twenty nine hours. So if we're talking about potential leadership people, we should probably pay attention to a poll that came out in Newspoll just a couple of weeks ago, which is who should leave the Labour Party. Less than a third of Australians believe that Anthony Abernezi should lead the Labor Party. Sure, sixty percent of labor people. But what forty percent of

labor people don't think Albo should be the leader. Plubacepi is next to thirteen, shortened to ten, Charmers is at eight, Miles is at four, and Bowen is it two.

Speaker 1

Guess who's not at all on the list anywhere, Tony Burke. Oh, but that's just this going after die place.

Speaker 2

The politics of housing will in part determine what is going to happen at the upcoming federal election when it comes to things like renters. The Greens that's how they think they're going to be able to get the Labor Party. For people who believe that we should be cutting back on immigration and maybe even holding back on foreign buyers, well that's where the Liberal.

Speaker 1

Party is going to come and get them.

Speaker 2

But one thing that is absolutely creating quite the concern for the government is interest rates.

Speaker 1

Because interest rates, as you know, have gone up.

Speaker 2

Total of one times under the Liberal National Party and twelve times under the Labor Party.

Speaker 1

Nothing to see here right now. The good thing is because of.

Speaker 2

Some of the details in and around the more complicated parts of the inflation numbers that even though inflation went up, apparently it's a near certainty according to experts, that it

won't be rising when they have a meeting this week. Now, that's good, but if anyone wants to turn around employees, if the media runs this garbage relief for homeowners because interest rates didn't go up, guess what they need a lot more than it not getting worse to be defined as relief, because people who are paying off a house right now, one that they may will have purchased at an auction or as sale no matter how you get to it, or the person who's trying to pay off

the rental property or investment property that is currently being lets out to.

Speaker 1

People will guess what the increases.

Speaker 2

In the amount that they are paying in their mortgages is astronomical. In fact, Australia supersized mortgages climbed one hundred and fifty four dollars a day, one hundred and fifty four dollars that you did not need to find before this government came to power. That now today, tomorrow, yesterday, two days time, next, Tuesday, Thursday, week, every one of those days are extra hundred and fifty four dollars and

the national average mortgage has reached a record. I have six hundred and thirty seven one thousand dollars that has gone up by one hundred and fifty four dollars a day in the past twelve months. Let's get into some more detail. Ahead of the Reserve Bank meeting, the figures from the Bureau Statistics which were released on Friday. She just what a surprise hid And on a Friday they showed that the average mortgage had increased by fifty six.

Speaker 1

Thousand dollars last financial year.

Speaker 2

So do the sums fifty two weeks a year it's more than a thousand bucks a week for the average mortgage in the country, let alone, once you start getting to the seven hundreds or the eight hundreds or god forbid a million or even higher. That Isawel's average mortgage is lifted by fifty five thousand dollars since June of last year to now seven hundred and eighty thousand dollars, So we're not even going the full two year number.

Speaker 1

This is the past twelve months.

Speaker 2

Under this mob twelve months it's gone by fifty five thousand dollars.

Speaker 1

In New South Wales.

Speaker 2

In Victoria it's risen by two point five percent to six hundred and four thousand dollars. Average mortgages are also at record highs in WA Queensland, South Australia. In fact, in WA, the average loan swed by one hundred thousand dollars, and so on and so on. But for first home buyers, by the way, their mortgages have gone up thirty seven thousand dollars. So interest rates and the increasing of them is a direct link to millions of people feeling the

financial squeeze. Yes, a third of people have already paid off the house. Good luck to you if that means that you're getting better out of term deposits, good luck. But again, two thirds of the country rent or paying off their own house, meaning somebody else is paying off the house that you are renting. Most likely mortgages have gone up by that amount in the time labor has been in power. And that's just for the past twelve months. Do'd you love how the media turn around and say that, oh,

it's the next rate rise that's the problem. What about the last twelve You want to throw them all in the last thirteen. Oh but this issue so small and nobody cares about it because it's not as exciting as a reshuffle.

Speaker 1

Seriously, so when do things go down?

Speaker 2

According to the ABC, they rang around to a few people who are in private enterprise. Unlike them, they claim and z that they will be going down next year in February. The Commonald thanks say fingers crossed November, The National Australia Bank says June next year, and Westpac says December this year. So we've got August, we've got September, we've got October, we've got November.

Speaker 1

Then maybe maybe.

Speaker 2

If one of them is right. Otherwise we go in the next year and even deeper in the next year. Oh but it's not a political issue. And they knew you're critical of the government in Sky in his primetime because the political ambit. Come on, now, we know some people go, is this repet Yes, it's huge pressure. Oh but it's the it's not the last one that the government should be punished for. All the one, all the one, all the one, twelve of them. Oh no, it's the

thirteenth that will break everyone's back. I'll give you the tip. Many a back is straining, if not broken already. They just can't admit it because of course it would make them look bad. But then again, the decision about whether rates go up or not as all linked to inflation, which is of course in many ways what people are purchasing at the supermarket, how expensive or otherwise things are

at that supermarket. And a little example about one of those things that you know is just an ingredient that affects a lot of other things. But if you think about it on an industrial scale, for say a small cafe or restaurant, that's you what the cost is here olive oil. Now, according to this report, it's basically doubled the amount that is in olive oil right now. The price of olive oil of major supermarkets skyrocketed in the past months, spurred by the pral growing conditions in high demand.

Reason and analysis from Compare the Market, you know, the little meerkat thing. The cost of a seven hundred and fifty mill bottle of a popular brand has gone from twelve to twenty four dollars. Now again, if you're a politician who got their third pay rise since the last election, none of this matters. If you're the Prime minister on six hundred grand, none of this matters. If you're the Governor General on seven hundred thousand dollars, none of this matters.

If you're somebody who's a teal or a teal supporter, none of this matters. But everyone else, in those stinky suburbs that you just fly over on your way to go somewhere else, a four liter ten could set back people as much as sixty five dollars. This is on top of one hundred and fifty dollars a day that has been increasing on your mortgage.

Speaker 1

It just sends me crazy.

Speaker 2

But of course, if you ask great Jim Chums, future Prime Minister after the greatest Prime Minister wins his fifteen elections in a row and he wants to spend more time with his family.

Speaker 1

Everything's fine.

Speaker 4

Our policies on energy bill relief, on cheaper early childhood education and on reran assistance are actually putting downward pressure on prices in our economy.

Speaker 1

And that's not the opinion of the government.

Speaker 4

That's the facts are released today by the Australian Bureau of Stats.

Speaker 1

Yet inflation went up.

Speaker 2

And we've shown you lots of different things that are way above influence. Albert power bills is a lie. Costs going up is a lie. Now what a difference to our months makes. The Prime Minister was at the Gama Festival in the Northern Territory getting ready for going around and pulling the voice into place and everything's going to be roses. Well, of course, there was a little vote of the Australian people and what was sixty forty yes became sixty forty hell no. In fact, I think it

was no in every state, wasn't it, Prime Minister? You said while I was in Queensland, South Australia, tas many of even or even Victoria.

Speaker 1

Wow, Oh that's right.

Speaker 2

The only place and the Northern Territory then any place that voted yes. What was it again, Oh, that's right, where the Prime Minister lives, where the abth types live in the.

Speaker 1

Australian Capital Territory.

Speaker 2

But part of all of this was, as you remember, was the Ularu statement, and the Uluru Statement demanded three things. It was voice, it was truth, it was treaty. Well, of course the voice part of this could have just been legislated by the Prime Minister, but no, he was going through history. He wanted to put it inside the constitution,

so that went away. The Macarata Commission, which was the truth telling Commission, well that hasn't taken place right now, and apparently there's no plan for a federal treaty.

Speaker 1

That'll all be done.

Speaker 2

By state governments who are, among others like Victoria, don't want to rule anything out, including specific taxation for different types of Australians.

Speaker 1

You know, nothing to see here, right.

Speaker 2

Well, twelve months on things are a little different because he went too again the same event in the Northern Territory. He sat down with the same people on the same TV channel. But the truth telling part, the Macarata part of this is now not going to be happening, despite the fact that they actually had put in place millions of dollars in last year and this year's budget for it to be taking place. Here is what the Prime Minister says today.

Speaker 3

Well, that's not what we have proposed. What we're proposed is Makarada just being the idea of coming together.

Speaker 2

Really, so you put money into the federal budget this year and last year for people coming together. Now, I reckon we can find some tape from twelve months ago that isn't as vague as that about what your plan actually was.

Speaker 3

That's about establishing a structure which will happen.

Speaker 2

Yeah, twelve months ago it was a thing. Twelve months on, it's not a thing. Oh but of course if you point that out, you're just lying, just like the power price bit and the visa's bit. Right now, let's look at the latest polling when it comes to the American election. Yes, things are getting tighter. They are getting tighter by the day.

I would suggest that well, certainly by this time next week, but most likely as soon as tomorrow, it'll be a scenario where Harris is in front in the national polling, in front when it comes to the betting and most likely there's a chance of her ending up in front in some of the swing states. Now, as I've told you a billion times before, all of it comes down to two states Nevada, where the Democrats never lose, but apparently they are losing right now and those numbers are

staying pretty strong. Or Pennsylvania, where Trump one in sixteen, lost in twenty and was leading by a big margin into twenty four. Tomorrow, the expectation is that as soon as tomorrow we could find out that Jos Shapiro is the Democrat vice presidential candidate. He of course, is the governor of Pennsylvania, so things are very tight.

Speaker 1

This weekend we had debate about debates.

Speaker 2

Here's my suggestion to the Trump campaign, because I couldn't care less about what's happening with Kamal Arras. They've got plenty of other boosters that are around on the internet or in the media. The president should do, obviously, couple of rallies a day, multiple days in a row. The person who looks hungriest is the one who gets it. He should obviously do a whole collection of interviews with even unfriendly journalists.

Speaker 1

But most ordinately.

Speaker 2

He should do a town hall every week, not a debate with a media sit there and say, oh, mister president, here's the word.

Speaker 1

Why are you evil? Where are you terrible?

Speaker 2

Instead just getting a room and he can do it on any TV station that wants to host it. Get two hundred so called undersided voters. I say so called because it's self identifying with the Olympics. But you get this scenario where they ask a question, he answers it. If he has a dumb question dumb answered, then that will become the issue further around. But who needs the whole setup of basically Kamala Harris not being asked a

tough question. And most importantly this week, this week, the Trump campaign needs to pull it back onto issues because by a twenty point margin, even in the polls where currently he might be losing the vote, he is winning on the issue of inflation, winning on the issue of immigration.

Speaker 1

If it all.

Speaker 2

Continues to be about the vibe with a candidate who is being wrapped in cotton wool, then bubble wrap and has the bumpers up when she goes ten pen bowling, she's not going to get exposed. But if eventually she has to say, so, what is your plan for inflation, What is your plan for immigration? Well, then the issue is going to start to move back towards Trump. There's also a great divide in reality between how this campaign is playing out on the internet versus the polite conversation

you're allowed to have on television. Now, every and anyone has most likely been sent plenty of eclips in the past few days. If I put them on in here, there's a chance that I mightn't be here tomorrow night, but you've probably seen them, and that'd be exactly the same in America. The effect, I have no idea more in a secure on polmriray life. Thanks for watching wherever you happen back, thank you very much for watching. The

wonderful Linda Scott is here. Of course she's part of the Sydney of City City of Sydney Council, but she is well pulling up stumps just a few weeks to go now, but still represents local government of National Cabinet and nonderan the wonderful James actually who wants to get into that Queensland Parliament via the seat of Keppel, of course, so one nation now vert early for him to get that spot. So let's talk about a couple of things, including a former Supreme Court judge has said that housing

should be a human right in Australia. Now, James, there isn't a person when you see a collection of people that are sleeping rough that doesn't go, well, come on, surely we can do better where we're really rich. Why can't there be a night in hotel et cetera, et cetera. But obviously we also have the orthodoxy who believes that we should be having a million people joining us in

this country every couple of years. So how would that work if it was to be considered a right when obviously we don't have the supply for the existing population, let alone future populations.

Speaker 8

Well, some of these judges are actually making people homeless, particularly in the family law courts. So I hope that he actually starts having a conversation with his colleagues at a higher level, because quite often it's the blogs that are left homeless when those family law matters reached the court and the bloke's turfed out and he's got nowhere to go. So it is somewhat right for people to have a house or more or less a roof over

their heads. But you know we're talking about I read this article and I thought myself, you're talking about an era where you could build a house for fifty grand I know Mom and Dad built their place in the eighties. Land was fifteen thousand, the house was thirty five thousand, and that was a brick home back in Landsbro when

we were kids. You can't do that today. And the average house I was only in the main street of Yupoon this weekend and just sort of scouting around at property prices and a new house and land package in a backblock here on the coast is going to set you back no less than seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So it's all well and good, but look, if people want a house, if people want to roof over their heads, really you've got to start planning for this at a very young age.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 8

Forget these twenty thirty forty and fifty thousand dollars holidays overseas every year as a twenty year old. You've got to start knuckling down and put that money away for your future, because there's nothing worse than being an older thirties forties family with three kids in tow and having to move every six to twelve months because the rent

went up and you've had to move somewhere else. If you want housing affordability, you've got to try and get into the market earlier, and that means been disciplined with your money. Don't just think that you can piss away your money at nightclubs and bars of a weekend and lattes every morning on the way to work. You've got to start saving and parents really need to get that through the kids' heads at this early age.

Speaker 1

See.

Speaker 2

I think there's a lot of fairness in what was just what James is saying Linda, obviously when it comes to the people that are sleeping rough right now, right literally in New South Wales, there is a little courtyard that's underneath the Premier's office and for as long as any of us have been talking about politics, sleeps rough underneath the Premier's office every night.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 2

There's a lot of issues from veterans all the rest of it. Right, Homeless services desperately need to be increased, so we all can understand what some of the solutions are there, But isn't also a fundamental issue for Australians right now is that.

Speaker 1

I think that this extends to.

Speaker 2

Education and certainly when it comes to home ownership, is that we're actually not willing.

Speaker 1

To move around like other parts of the world.

Speaker 2

You may be born in a certain city, but you go to university somewhere else, or you might get your first job somewhere. Australia seems has this very sort of clustered idea that if I'm born in Melbourne, I get to stay in Melbourne. It doesn't mean that you should want to stay in Melbourne, but if you can only afford to go to Wodonga, then go to Woodonga.

Speaker 9

Look. When I was first elected to the City of Sydney now twelve years ago, it was the case that many regional mayors said for them that people sleeping rough in their towns was just not an issue. It was really a Sydney problem. And you're right, Paul, it is the case that we've got so many people each night,

tragically in the City of Sydney still sleeping rough. But over the last few years it is the case that regional mayors have started telling me that they have people sleeping in their towns rough for the first time in living memory.

Speaker 10

But here's what I.

Speaker 9

Won't cop I won't cop James Ashby, and I won't cop Peter Dutton and the Conservatives blaming individuals and particularly blaming young people for the fact that these are economic conditions that are driving the housing affordability crisis. That is just rubbish and we have to call that out. This is not lazy young people.

Speaker 8

That's labor's immigration policy, which is also driving up prices in houses. And Linda, you've got to make it.

Speaker 9

Dunrans and James want to get in the way of normal working people's wages growing and that's why young people find it hard to afford a home. So I will not cut from James.

Speaker 2

Minimum wage right increases which are going to be able to get your dollars for a deposit for bedroom unity or frevllent.

Speaker 1

That's just wrong.

Speaker 9

It's just wrong.

Speaker 10

Normally is.

Speaker 8

You're twisting it.

Speaker 1

But okay, but a very German labor they like to twist, they do.

Speaker 2

But but your to your point, James about again. Look, this is what about this issue, right Everyone interprets.

Speaker 1

Things to be very personal.

Speaker 2

Right now, Obviously there are going to be circumstances of the people that have been working their backside off that aren't earning enough money that are pulling their head in as tight as they possibly can, who aren't able to get anywhere near it right. However, there are other examples of people who may well haven't been pulling in their head in as tight as they possibly could, but they're

still complaining. And there could be some other examples of people who may even have the cash but they don't have the houses. And I've got to say, James, it reminds me a little bit of the general sort of parenting or education debate. Because all of us have slept somewhere, or lived somewhere, or paid the rent somewhere.

Speaker 1

We all think we know how to solve this.

Speaker 8

Yep, the safety net is failing, Linda. It's your people within labor that just continue to allow. Well, if it's not seven hundred and fifty thousand people into the country and one year it's another five hundred thousand, and this is part of the problem. The safety net for the people who already here has disappeared. I spoke to a bloke who's living a rough out of a camper van of his. He's been on the streets, basically moved from shire to shire to shire, can't sleep anywhere safely around

here in Livingstone. So he goes and finds some backblock area to sleep. And the problem is he's a bloke who's worked his entire life. He's fallen through the cracks, through hard times due to medical reasons, and now he's busted.

Speaker 1

Asked sitting in a.

Speaker 8

Bugged out little buddy camper van. He says it himself, and he can't do anything about it. No one within the government's prepared to help because they're too worried about the forty odd thousand refugees that have come in via aircraft under this Labor government federally that are getting looked at by your people over.

Speaker 9

This standing in the way of the Labour government's record investment in public ownent. We've got a prime Minister who grew who believe wants to fund it, and your party and the Conservatives stand in the way of it. In the Senate, we want to build more housing for people like this.

Speaker 1

Think you can build houses.

Speaker 8

The way lady describe it. Through this thing here, your plan has failed.

Speaker 1

All right. Let us talk about parliamentary salaries.

Speaker 2

I noticed interestingly today we know that the politicians have got plenty of paid rises.

Speaker 1

Well now there's one coming for the staffers of federal politicians.

Speaker 2

I noticed, James that you and the boss Pauline hansome out there saying, okay, enough enough explain to us. Maybe with that, I'm not asking you to tell me exactly to the dollar what you earn, but why why is about ten to eleven percent increase too much?

Speaker 8

Paul where some of the best paid people in this country as staff of political officers or government departments. And it goes without saying that an eleven point two percent increase over the next couple of years is just outrageous. We hear of other organizations minimum wage are completely different. They get a three point seventy five percent increase. Now that's fair enough, and a lot of people would say

that is not enough. But then at the same time too, you know, if you go putting it up too far, businesses have to cope with it, but taxpayers, at the end of the day are on the hook for this eleven point two percent. Albanizy was winging that wages within the Parliament were too high that he couldn't afford to give cross benches extra staff, and here he is just going and giving an eleven point two percent increase, we get some of the best conditions. We get travel allowance,

which is just outrageous. I try and do as little travel as I can today because at the end of the day, I don't want it put.

Speaker 1

Back on the taxpayer.

Speaker 8

But you know, this is a government just spend spends and buy more of those votes from the public service.

Speaker 2

Well, but also don't forget as well that this is all about making sure and we're not going to stand in the way of and all the rest of it, because of course they may go in the minority government most likely according to the numbers. Therefore, you want to have the negotiation with a cross bench. You don't want to make them annoyed about how much this stuff get paid or how many there are. So, Linda, things have got better for the Democrats since last we spoke with Kamala Harris,

now confirmed as their candidate. Literally that happened via a zoom chat earlier today. The numbers are starting to level up and even she's starting to go ahead of Donald Trump. The political pessimist in you think, oh, something's about to happen next week, or do you feel like well, once you get in front the nature of American politics exist that you're probably not going to come back. What's as somebody who wants a Harris victory, what are you feeling

right now? As times are the best they've been for the Dems?

Speaker 9

Also, like, look, I do want to say that I am full of hope and I think that Kamala Harris is an incredible candidate. She will revitalize the Democratics camp of the Democrats campaign, and she will bring new people to the Democrats, which is what they need. But I still do think that this is Trump's election to lose. Right, He's been out the front for a long time. He's got this incredible kind of tech Bros. Group behind him that are just channeling him big money behind a small

number of very wealthy people. That's very hard to overcome when you're a grassroots party like the Democrats.

Speaker 1

So it's going to be interesting. She's just happened to the president.

Speaker 9

On you five dollar donations from working people, billions from tech bros.

Speaker 1

Or Our plan is to have a Chad in Paris. We will do so in a moment. Sign your apt all right.

Speaker 2

We are planning to talk to Hannah Hollis next couple of minutes from Paris. If we can get the tim Cans to work in the meantime planning to talk about with Linda Scott and with James Ashby. Before we get to your bowl predictions for the week ahead, which remember locked into law, I want to ask you about Tony Book because there was some little profile piece in the fin Review suggesting, oh, his next job is going to be the prime ministership, and then we've had these other

people suggesting, oh, you know, Charmer's the profile piece. Now I thought that albou was solid. I thought he was so locked in. So okay, you're going to win the next fifteen elections in a row. Why are we getting the jockey in now for a bloke who allegedly is a head in the polls despite the fact that his disapproval rating is higher than his approval rating.

Speaker 8

Well, it just goes to show that Labor Party are not united. If this is what's happening in the background, it's proof that there's internal blows happening there, and of course they must be very concerned that they're not a shoe in for a second term of parliament. Look, Burke's highly effective, you have to admit it. I don't like his politics but he's very good on the floor, good operator,

and anyone has to be better than Giles. But let's not forget Burk's filed in this position before he's filed in every other ministerial position. He just spins it better and he's a better salesperson, particularly on the law of Parliament and especially in the media. So don't be surprised if he is jocking for that position. There's no certainly that Labor will get a second term. They might scrape in with a cross bench in the lower House and

in the Senate, but there's no guarantees. So that is why there's unrest behind the scenes within Labor.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Linda, do you get this sense of it or I mean it's just a little profile piece and who cares.

Speaker 9

Oh, James's right to acknowledge that Labor's government is full of talent, Like you've got three new people into the cabinet, Pat Conroy, Jenny McAllister Melandira McCarthy, absolutely incredible talent. Team Ayre's Patrick Gorman, Ged Carney, you know, given promotions extraordinary and then just even on the back bench, Jerome Laxle, Tracy Robins. I could go on like labor's the government's full of talent, incredible people.

Speaker 10

It's great to see.

Speaker 9

They're really really great government.

Speaker 1

All right, quick, let's.

Speaker 2

Get to Hannah. We've actually got it all connected now now, Hannah. The last two minutes, lots of other things going on. Time for me to shut up. It's been incredible to watch, and I've got to say I've loved Weirder sports like.

Speaker 1

And all the rest of it. So what's in front of us?

Speaker 11

Well, why wouldn't you love the BMX? Paul, great to chat to you this hour.

Speaker 10

My goodness. We're winning gold in that, as we are.

Speaker 11

Doing in the pool, and we're hoping that the gold rush continues tonight. In the women's fifty meter freestyle, Can McAvoy claimed the gold as the first Australian male to do it.

Speaker 10

Can the ladies back it up.

Speaker 11

We've got Shana Jack and Meg Harris chasing medals in that, and then our medley teams hit the pool as well. Now our women have qualified first, our men have qualified six. But when you're representing Australia, we know our characters and our athletes are capable of herculean efforts.

Speaker 10

The teams haven't been announced yet so the makeup.

Speaker 11

Of the four that are jumping in the pool for the men and the women is still TBC.

Speaker 10

What about what's.

Speaker 11

Happening on the track though, super excited for Tory Lewis. She ran a personal best time in the two hundred meters sprint twenty two to eighty nine pool, but she got pipped right on the line, so she didn't qualify automatically.

Speaker 10

What does that mean?

Speaker 11

Well, thank goodness we've got the rapper charge round because she will now run in that in order to secure a semi final spot.

Speaker 10

As she does so along with Mia Gross now going.

Speaker 2

To say, I also love the idea that we're a chance of becoming medalist.

Speaker 1

We as if we do it. But anyway at the high jump, which I think is awesome.

Speaker 11

Yeah, okay, so this is really exciting. We've got two contenders here. We've got Nicola Olislagers and Eleanor Patterson.

Speaker 10

These ladies are stars.

Speaker 11

They are both the silver and the bronze World Championship medalists from just last year, so they come into this Olympics with great form.

Speaker 10

Nikola is the silver medalist.

Speaker 11

From Tokyo, so she knows how to podium at an Olympics. The thing is we have a Ukrainian world record holder. She has set a world record of two meters ten so it's pretty hard for our girls to clear.

Speaker 10

But we'll see what they can do.

Speaker 2

And I promise the next time we talk, we're going to book you at like ten past in the show, so if there's any delays we can actually have longer than a thirty second conversation, it will happen this week.

Speaker 1

Thank you, mate, Love that, Thank you. See her on Fox Sports, Fox Sports News and.

Speaker 2

Here on Scotty the Wonderful Hannah Hollis. That's our show for tonight. We'll see you again tomorrow for more Paul Murray life

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