From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Thank you, Sharry. We look forward to seeing you again same time tomorrow night. Now, by this time tomorrow night, we're gonna know whether we're about to get another the.
Interest rateive Lise, this is so close where.
We know the Reserve Bank basically needs to be talked out of it because last month they were going to do it. We'll tell you the information that'll go into the machine and see what happens by this time tomorrow. Like everyone else who's watching the games every now and then, why aren't they handing out flowers instead they're handing out a box?
What's in the box?
Nigel Farag back on the show. The only place you'll see him and Assi Telly he is in the UK Parliament, but he'll be back here on Paul Murray Live tonight and whatever the hell this is?
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Okay.
In the meantime, though, there is a spectacular reason to go outside if you're in the southern parts of the country.
Well, the phenomenon which.
Was around in May, which is Aurora Estrallas, which just produced some of the most spectacular scenery in the skies. Well, it's had another run another version of it. These were some photos from the very south of the country that came in yesterday, and experts are telling us that there is another chance to do it and to have a look at it tonight.
Apparently the best places, of course Surprise, Surprise.
Tasmania and maybe up even into some parts of Victoria.
But what are we talking about here and why? Is this phenomena one that's worthy of Instagram for everyone. If you can get a.
Photo, Victorians can treat themselves to another spectacular aurora this evening, just two months after a massive view of magnetic storm lit up the sky across the state. Experts are predicting.
Another one tonight.
It's a treat for those who missed out on the last one, But meteorologists say this one won't quite be as big. Auroras are caused by particles in the atmosphere colliding, the different colors.
Depending on the types of atoms.
They're typically seen at the poles, requiring major environmental phenomena like geomagnetic storms to bring them as far north as Australia.
I knew all that.
I like started the show with pretty pictures. Now let's get to some ugly news. That is around today. Cost of living number one issue in the country when it comes to politics, but more importantly, the number one issue for households. No matter what type of household.
That you're in.
If you live by yourself, a few live with the same person you have for decades, if you just moved in with somebody.
You get the point.
Kids, no kids, grandkids, All of it matters. All of it is costing so much money.
Now.
The Reserve Bank, well, it has one indication indicator about whether it does or doesn't raise interest rates, and that is inflation between two and three percent. Tomorrow we get the final bit of data that we have been building to for the past couple of months, and it will be the inflation data that will tell us whether we are getting closer to two to three percent or we
are getting further away from two to three percent. Now, to give you an idea of how they work out, which things in the economy that are costing more or slightly less put into a thing.
Called the basket of goods.
Now, these can be all sorts of things, from the things that you buy at the shops to what you do when it comes to filling.
Your car or filling your belly.
But let's just go back to a sort of a bit of a high school economics lesson here for everyone, what do they put into the quote unquote basket of goods to decide whether inflation is going up or down? Now there's a whole bunch of them, but the key ones are alcohol and tobacco. Now, apart from the basic cost of this, remember, tax is a big part of this as well. So inevitably when taxes go up, as does the inflation number.
Well, petrol, how often do we talk about that?
And again, barely under two dollars no matter where you happen to go in the country, bread and cereal products, what we wear, the power to power our homes, and we know that that keeps going up every time we get a new update from people, because the system has not fully transitioned, and the cost of transitioning is of
course billions billions of dollars. Also, the rest of the stuff that you buy from asus market, including non alcoholic beverages, those are part of what the Reserve Bank looks at each and every month to decide whether or not the economy needs to be slowed because of inflation. Of course, per capita recession we're in right now, so effectively Australians are in recession.
But the lagging.
Indicator here of inflation still remains too high. They only have one option. You put them up where you put them down. Furnishing's household equipment and services again, clothing, housing, and an area that does not get enough attention, and that is the increase in insurance.
Now your car, boat, home, all the rest of it.
All of those insurance premiums keep going up now for a whole collection of different reasons. But nobody's insurance is worth less or they're sending you a bill that's less than this time last year. So that, along with a whole collection of other things what they double check compared
to this time last year. Also month on month, the picture has been building were remember you've got to be between two and three percent, and the Reserve Bank will keep interest rates until the inflation number gets down between two and three percent.
Will bugger what the consequences are now?
Of course the government would be desperately hoping that there is no change. It helps their political fortunes, but the reality of where we are heading is that inflation, as you can see last quarter was three point four percent and then went up to three point six percent in the first of the three months that are counted. It then hit four percent in June. So the number has to be kind of mid three point five or even lower for the number to end up kind of near
where January was. But remember the numbers that they had in and around January is what fed into their decisions. Where we were told openly by the Reserve Bank that at their last meeting they had no conversation about dropping them and there was kind of a fifty to fifty conversation about holding which is what they did or increasing. Now this has serious consequences because for anyone who was trying to pay off a home or pay off an investment property that somebody is renting in these are very
serious times. No matter where I go in the country, be it for our town or just out and about in normal life, this is the number one concern. So what's the expectations of those who know the numbers way better than me. Fation has not only stopped falling, and as a round four, it might even be picking up this year, and of course if that's the case, then
we are in a world of trouble. But why does this become a central political issue, because remember Jim Chalmers told us that his budget that spent billions of dollars on tax cuts, which, of course, in terms of the reality of how they were accepted by Australians was too little, too late. Remember there was a cost living crisis last year and they pulled fifteen hundred dollars away from you
as an automatic tax return. And then they think fourteen dollars a week for people on the lowest part of the income scar would be enough to change the world. Of course it is not. And they told us that
the budget would in fact fight inflation. But if inflation has continued to go up since the budget, and if this overall month by month picture is reflected in the quarterly picture, which is the three most recent months bunched together, well, then the Reserve Bank, who seem to be so close last time to increasing interest rates, would most likely interest will most likely increase them. If that's the case, political disaster for the Labor Party, so they are trying to will nothing to be.
Inflation in this country has moderated substantially from its peaks in twenty twenty two. We expect inflation in tomorrow's CPI numbers to be more persistent than we would like. We've said that earlier in the week. Inflation has come off substantially, but we need it to moderate further and faster. We're confident that it will moderate further, but in the numbers tomorrow, we're expecting inflation to be pretty persistent.
The numb one issue in the US presidential election is, among other things, inflation. Their inflation rate is lower than ours. It'll be one of the big reasons why there may well be a change of government in November, regardless of who the Democrats have as their candidate. One of the major reasons why there's a change of government in the UK again was the cost of living and inflation. Their rate of inflation is lower than it is here in Australia.
Appoint the Liberal Party, while not wanting bad economic results, knows they would be a political beneficiary should there be an interest rate rise.
That's just the reality.
Bring inflation under control by using their fiscal reins, bring those energy prices back down, make sure that they're spending is under control. Sending the right signals to the market so that the RBA doesn't have to keep raising interest rates.
As you know, this is a TV show that doesn't just send the weather man to regional Australia. We go each and every month when it comes to our town thanks to our very good friends at Harvey Norman, so we are acutely aware of what it is like to travel around the country, not just what the concerns are outside of the major cities.
And without doubt, one of.
The biggest concerns for people who live outside of the major cities is how it is to be able to fly from regional centers back to major capital cities. Now, the reality of why you would have to do that is pretty obvious. There are more cancer experts in the
capital cities, there are more health experts. There are a whole collection of people like engineers or lawyers or you name it, who might be the people who you need to interact with, who aren't going to company you, so you have to go to them, Which is why the potential problems for Rex Airlines is a huge issue right now. I was listening to Robie Catter, the great MP from North Queensland based in and around Mount Eyes, on the radio today and he is frightened if REX does somehow
collapse or ends up cutting back on its services. The number of places that it will be servicing, of course, starts to fall off the map, and other airlines don't service.
Some of these areas.
So if we have a look at the service map that REX has got up on its website right now, you can see that the red and the orange is the stuff that is exclusively paid for by Red. The rest of these little areas or they are subsidized in part by the state or federal government. But reality is, you want to get from Brucebane to Mount iSER, most likely REX is going to be part of the picture. If you want to make your way again from parts of Tasmania to Melbourne or maybe even over to Perth,
REX is part of the picture. So it's scary today when REX decided that it was going to halt its seven thirty seven flight booking systems. Now they will still be up in the air I understand from tomorrow, so if you've got a ticket, they will be honoring the ticket. I'll double check that information, but that's the latest that I had before we went to air. But the consequences of Australia's third biggest airline, which has helped push down some of the prices between the major capitals.
Of course, all of that is the side.
Business to the real business, which is flying people around the more remote parts of our country. And it's a bloody big joint and it is a forever walk. So people need to be able to fly. They also need to be able to fly at a reasonable price.
The reason for the Tree rating hold is that they're awaiting a report from EY, which has been running a rule over their books. They expect that report will provide information on whether they can restructure the business so it can continue, or whether administrators need to be appointed. So it's a pretty grim situation for Rex unfortunately, which is really the last thing Australia's aviation industry needs at this point.
Now, again the airline, I'll obviously get in touch with you, but I understand if you've got a flight in the morning will of course be on it, as it will be tomorrow or the next couple of days. But again, driving home the point about why this airline is important, and frankly, air travel outside of the major centers is a bit like getting a bus or being able to drive.
It is just a necessary mode of transport. Now, I love man e isab but obviously you can drive there, but it's a bloody long way, so you have to be able to fly. And if you don't fly directly into Bruceban, you're able to get yourself to places like towns, will Cans or other places to connect yourself back up with the rest of the country. Now, these people are
our fellow Australians, citizens, taxpayers. They work in communities that often produce the agriculture or mining that the Satan federal government take for granted to be able to pay for everything. So the people who work in those minds, work on those farms and live in those communities should be given the same access to transport as anyone living in any major city. It's certainly a point that Bridget McKenzie makes as a regional MP.
This isn't just about getting people to and from their holidays in the regions. It's a critical economic service provider and a health provider into our communities and the government needs to guarantee, no matter what decision the Board of REX makes over the coming period, that these services won't disappear out of our community.
That's the key.
It's one thing for it to financially continue to find a new way. It's another thing for it to continue to be servicing the areas that its services. Now again it's part of our town. We often use all different airlines, but any time I've experienced a flight on REX in a regional airline, the staff are fantastic. The captain will literally say hello and goodbye to you, maybe even hand
you the bag. Let alone the people that are assisting him on the flight, but clearly the employees they deserve to remain in employment and the communities that they service deserve to be connected to the rest of the country.
For its part, the federal government says, well, OK.
We don't want to see this thing fold, but of course that means more taxpayer money. As a taxpayer, no different than yourself, I have no problem if some government money goes to awards making sure that people can be connected to the rest of the country.
Is a Transport minister.
We're in touch obviously with REX and we expect them to inform both HAVE six and then its customers tomorrow about what is actually happening. Regional Australians still rely on REX. It's an incredibly important airline. In many cases it's the only airline are going into a range of smaller country towns heavily reliant on it. Some of our King Island, for example, heavily reliant on it as well. So we are treating this very seriously and keep being very vigilant about what is actually happening.
You know, I try to give you the data, we put the opinion on top of it. Well, the latest data is yet again humbling for the federal government. Now, if you watch some political commentary or read it, you would think that the Abenezy government had one hundred seats in the Parliament of one hundred and fifty one, that they would have such a massive backbench that whatever the result is of the upcoming election, it doesn't matter. Absolute
guarantee that they will remain in majority government. Well, of course they don't, and most likely they won't. Yet another poll, this time coming from the Turmbul Times otherwise known as the Guardian. It shows here that the Greens are on eleven percent, lab on thirty two percent. Put them together, well you can see that that's how they end up staying in power at forty three percent, the Liberal National Party at thirty four percent, and other can be anything
from the United Australia Party One Nation or the Teals. Interestingly, in this though, when they get into two party preferred, which there you can see is forty seven to forty six, there is a number of undecideds. This is interesting if you think about the federal election and all the conversation
that happens all the time. If I told you just six percent, six percent was still up for grabs and an actual fact, an extreme majority of people have no plan to change their vote apart from what you are starting to see here, but you can start to see that when things like interest rates go up or there is two little too late tax cuts, that when they fail, they are an indication of what may potentially be happening
at the next election. Will there be a change of government most likely, not until we get the evidence about what's happening when it comes to the Teals. But will there be a minority government? Most likely?
Yes.
Now I've shown you before about just how deep into minority the Labour Party can go before we start getting into the really kooky members of the cross bench, like some of the leftier Teals all the way through to the Greens, and they are now into that territory. Whether safer, more logical sets of hands. Well, they start passing the ball and we're now down, according to Newspoll between seven and eight seats being lost by the government. That puts
them down to seventy two. They would need, of course, a whole lot more to get to seventy six than you throw in a speaker at seventy seven, and the whole thing becomes pretty damn precarious. But of course this prime minister and his minister's one of the many reasons for the reshuffle. And by the way, those who like to tell you nothing to see here, they just moved awesome people into other awesome positions.
Could somebody please tell me.
Why did all of this happen under the cover of the Olympics when the Prime minister knew the extreme majority of the country, including the what six percent who are probably paying an attention to something else, wouldn't notice because of course they're trying to hide their mistakes. But over and over again, the Labour Party of the left of politics likes to tell you that they are the ones who are the worker's friend.
You often hear it echoed in the.
Media, workers, working class, workers, workers, But.
Let's actually have a look at a rather scary number, not just for the Prime Minister but also for the opposition leader about people's perceptions about the major political parties. And it comes to the working conditions or the best party that is best to take care of workers again, essential poll Turnabul Times now the Improving the Rights of workers. Yes, Labor defeats the Liberal Party, but guess who defeats that neither supporting higher wages and better working conditions.
Well, guess what.
Beats the Labor Party or the Liberal Party neither or unsure ensuring that the economy operates fairly for everyone. Again, the middle of the road wins and ensuring unions are operating ethically remains even, meaning that either there's an opportunity for the Liberal Party to grow here, the Labor Party to consolidate here, or someone to be able to drive
a stake right down the middle. And if you think that the Labor Party is more likely to pull back workers because well it's the traditional workers party, we'll have a look at again, same poles, same organization, turnbul Times. The Guardian, the essential organization yet again tells us more than half of the country believes we are headed in the wrong direct In fact, that's up fifteen points since
February of last year. The number of people who think the countryes had in the right direction, which was already a minority, is now down to thirty two percent. Again a reminder of those who talk about politics for a living, who don't seem to think there's anything wrong with the government or think somehow they will upset the government by
pointing out anything that's wrong with the government. Therefore, just repeat their lines that everything is awesome, everything's okay, they're nothing to do with anything, and of course it's just moving genius from one office to another in terms of a cabinet reshuffle, or failures when it comes to the budget or all of somebody else's making, or when all else fails, memory wipe as if it's men in black well, they'd like to tell you that Anthony Abernezi is of
course the solution to the problems, and he's a little warning to the Prime Minister. Now like all politicians, he thinks, just throw more of me at the problem and suddenly everyone will turn around because he has the special connection to Australians. Right wrong again. Turmbul Time's Essential poll, forty six percent of people disapprove of the prime Minister's handling of the job. Eleven percent of people don't know, forty three percent approve, so yes, that's tight, but still more
people disapprove of the prime Minister's performance than approve. So if the Prime Minister thinks, throw more prime minister at it, well, the Australian perception of the prime minister is in negative territory. But don't the left you media always tell us that Peter Dutton's in a much worse position, that people hate him, that there's no possible way that anyone could ever consider
him to be the alternative prime minister. Only problem is they haven't told the very same people who tell us that more people disapprove of the prime Minister's performance than approved, Because guess what, more people approve of Peter Dutton's performance than disapprove. It's tight forty two to forty one, and with seventeen percent still undecided. That again, can be defined by the attack ads that come from the Labour Party or defined by the way Peter Dutton handles himself between
now and the next election. But right now you put him side by side, the one with a better approval rating is Peter Dutton, regardless of whom is suggested to be the preferred prime minister, Which brings us to a point that our mate Kevin Donnelly, who normally writes on education matters and we talk to him quite regularly here
on Palmurray Live well. He wrote a great piece today in the Daily Telegraph, the Herald's Sun, the Korean Mail, the Adelaide Advertiser, the Mercury and everywhere else, making things worse.
Albo's policies fail to unify the nation. Whereas the ALP began as a workers party fighting for higher wages and better working conditions, it's now dominated by privileged inner city elites, advocating rainbow alliances of woke causes excellent points, championing wind and solar energy, thus destroying the nation's only reliable and affordable coal and gas industry, pushing multiculturalism leading to racial tensions and anti semitism and the fall of stem immigration.
Proof of the ALP is now the party of the woke elites. One term Albow. Now, I don't think that he will be a one term prime minister, but still he goes.
On one term.
Albou insists that unifying instead of unifying the nation continues to implement policies only making the situation worse. Chasing the renewable energy delusion guarantees energy prices will escalate and the economy flatline. All worth paying attention to. And again, speaking of poles, I do love when media organizations basically like to go out and do their best to try to
find evidence that youth crime is not a problem. This is all just a giant hype job being done by people who want to dislodge.
Governments, when, of course, the reality.
Of anyone who has ever been outside of the safe little in the city bubbles, let alone outside of the major capital city bubbles. Will they know that many people are concerned, fearful and that has changed in the past couple of years for a whole collection of different reasons. Well, interestingly, the Channel nine newspapers, when some of their staff are are or aren't on strike right now, will they put a poll out where what do you trust? Do you have faith in the courts or do you have faith
in the police. Sixty nine percent of people said that they have faith in the police, thirteen don't an eighteen percent don't know, as opposed to thirty percent of people who have faith in the court or justice system forty seven percent who don't. Because you see, this is the problem, isn't it. That the crime takes place, the police respond
to it. The police end up doing the hard work of finding, catching, cuffing these people, and then once they eventually get to a court, of course, the system instantly changes and rather than the victim of the crime being at the center of the process and therefore the judgment being made about the person who committed the crime against you, the system ends up being well, why did you commit the crime? What is in your history, what is in
your past? Okay, you get another chance. Understandably, people remain frustrated and furious, and that is why this program is pro police. It is pro police because the men and women of the police forces of this country run towards the situations multiple times every day that the rest of us would consider to be some of the worst days of our lives. Well, this is what they interact with
all day, every day. We are endlessly thankful for their family sacrifice and for the physical sacrifice that they make on the job. Now, of course, you remember the shootings which took place in Queensland, where an act of terrorism resulted in two police officers being murdered. There is currently a coronial inquest into what took place. Constable Randall Kirk gave some evidence and I am going to show you
some footage. That is his bodycam footage of when he was running towards his car for protection but then was being shot at for his reasons. This footage is deeply, deeply distressing. If anyone is easily offended or squirmish, now is the time to press mut or maybe blink for a couple of seconds.
But for everyone else who needs a.
Reminder or or he knows in their heart why the police are the best amongst us, have a look at what this bloke had to encounter on the same day two of his colleagues were murdered. You loved shot. That is frightening. That is utterly frightening. Also a great difference between what you see on TV. This is what happens in reality when somebody starts shooting at you. Now again, there's some pretty gruesome and really difficult stuff in and around this case, which if you are reading about it,
I won't be repeating here, but it is frightening. The idea that every officer every day gets up with an expectation that there is a chance that the could happen to them on any one day, being shot at, or being injured or worse. Yet they keep turning up, and they turn up year after year. Is an incredible credit. This show is pro police. Its viewers a pro police. The wider community is pro police when it comes to
the courts, not so much. Speaking of Queensland, its a hapless premiere, Old Giggles Miles, who of course wasn't laughing at all when asked a question about youth crime, because no, he definitely wasn't laughing despite if the question.
Was about youth crime. Remember we've been following this one for months.
We gave you an update on last week, which was when he appointed a brand new police commissioner, yet had no room on his plane to bring the police commissioner to the series of press conferences to show they were serious about youth crime, because of course all of his staffers and a couple of ringing MPs were there. So you ended up with two planes flying from Brisbane in
and around parts of North Queensland. The title cost one hundred and seventy thousand dollars Well, after all of this was finally reveal in a process where they could no longer hide it, we followed the bouncy ball of how Stephen Miles said, Well, of course this happened because he had to find his own way, his own transport, as opposed to him simply being able to invite him onto
the same plane. Well again, he was asked about it in Brisbane, and he's a little cranky because this subject doesn't go away.
We've discussed it regularly, We've been over it many many times. But I will never apologize for spending time in regional Queensland and for making the arrangements that are necessary to spend as much time there as I can.
Queensland place. You've got your chance. We'll see what happens in the next little while. All right to Paris right now, and well, the main river in Paris is an open sewer at the moment for obvious reasons. You can see that the river Sin is supposed to be clean. It's not, which means triathlon has been put off. Why because, among other things, the city of Love, which has got plenty of puppies, and plenty of puppies that lead bits of themselves behind when the rain flows, that all ends up
while going into the river. The river of course is unable to be swimming, so the triathlon has been put off. And let me now answer this question which you may will have been asking yourself, which is what is going on with why they don't hand out flowers like they normally do when somebody wins a metal. Instead they get this little cardboard tube. Well, the Core email answered this one for us today and guess what. It turns out that inside the box has rolled up official poster of
the Paris Olympics. It is mean's reading, about forty centimeters long. It features the Eiffel Tower, depictions of several Olympic events, and the Olympiad for the thirty third edition of the Games.
Which I think is awesome, very cool.
So you'd be able to not maybe have your metal out on show, but you'd be able to have a poster and everyone goes, how were you an Olympic?
Yes?
I was.
That is why they hand out those things the way they currently are. And before we get into the debate tonight, and remember Nigel Ferrad joints this for the first time in a long time since the UK we'll talk about his rise to a position in the Parliament along with multiple others with reform, also his closeness with Trump.
Has he spoken to Trump since he was shot.
And what does he think about the world of Kamala Harris. We get to him a little later in the show, a great debate moments away. But can we just focus on some of the cringe around Kamala. This is the front page of the New York magazine, super lefty magazine read by super lefties.
But look how overly.
Excited they all are because she's sitting on top of a coconut. I still don't care what that means. And everyone's dancing around, including Joe Biden, who of course was pushed out of the way for her to become the candidate who apparently isn't standing for anything.
But if you criticize her at all, it's racist.
And I showed you before the example of again Pete cringe, where I know this fires up people that were already going to vote against Donald Trump. But how does this move anyone who was going to vote for Donald Trump to move over to vote for the Democrats. I don't know, but thankfully the limbs of TikTok we're able to find this video which is all about being out and.
Proud for Ms Harris.
She didn't get Bill's past encoundress that I'll protect.
Me and you wait, Latin of Asia not lgbt Q.
She can get this country back to where we can stand.
Keep men as.
From home without well, yeah, that'll win it more in a sick you're on, Paulhoe, you live, you know, I send me an email, Paul, Let's go news dot com dot au.
Thank you very much for watching Joe.
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Towards the bottom, but still there.
I'll be there.
Emily Die of course, with the Center of Independent Studies, I'm going to get into a great reporter. I was reading of herst today, which was a massive survey of people and their attitudes about companies that go super woke.
Surprisingly, it doesn't go well for the superwork company.
We'll get to this in a second, let's go to where I started with this essential poll showing that neither the Labor Party or the Liberal Party is actually in front when it comes to the battle for the workers. Now, yes, the Labor Party on some is doing better and the Liberal Party is doing better on parties doing really well, but do not show and that is that is really interesting, isn't it about what we talk about about some supposedly
big changes that are happening globally right. One of the things that was getting behind a Nigel Farage again a certain level of the working class getting in behind him.
We certainly know that.
It's been part of the coalition, and we know that obviously the Liberal Party would suggest that that's one of their hopes to have a path back. But if that many people this light in the cycle of telling us that they're not sure, then I think that's just pretty fertile ground for the far left in the Greens or some populist parties on the right.
What do you reckon them?
We?
I mean possibly.
I was looking at the breakdowns that was in that data, and one of the things that struck me is the fact that the younger generations tend to still be a little bit more left wing. They're a little bit more confident in the Labor Party, which actually surprised me because I think that young people tend to like smaller parties and be more into the Greens, more into the Independence.
But they did have a.
Little bit more confidence, and I did also notice that the Greens were very much not confident. The only group that was particularly keen on the Labor Party when it came to labor issues were Labor Party voters.
So again, Joe, what does this tell you about how the government has prosecuted its first two years.
Yeah, look, it is really obviously it's the sort of thing that I've been banging on about for years, as many people in the Labor many sensible heads in the Labor Party, especially the New South Wales right of the
Labor Party, have been banging on about for years. There is a disconnect that basically began with the Whitlam years between you know, inner city tertiary educated university graduates who are obsessed with ideology and then things like you know, environmentalism and you know, improving the worker by applying a kind of you know, socialist orthodoxy down on them rather than actually listening to what they want and giving it to them.
And and hereing lies the problem.
This is why the Greens obviously do not resonate with working people, because they never met any of them. But it also means that whenever labor is focused on things that seem remotely ideological or remotely linked to identity politics,
it goes really really badly for them. So again the Voice referendum, which I was a big supporter of, but in the middle of a cost of living crisis, it was just the worst possible thing to be focused on, and the government sort of to its credit, quickly realized that, but it was so sort of branded with it, it was too late to change tack. We've already seen, I believe
a mark. There was a pile around a few months ago that showed that blue collar among blue collar workers, they actually prefer the Coalition.
In April, well literally last weekend, there was one showing that it didn't matter where you were on the income scale or where you were on the home ownership scale. That was leaning Dutton's way right now, And this information again it steps back a bit more to the neutral territory.
But I'm fascinated in and around all of this again, Emily, because one of the things that the Liberal Party, in terms of what it has said in the past or what has assumed about it in the past is and I think one of the moments when you know, I certainly look back at as always when you go, well did I have the right take on this or the
right take on that? One of the things that Albanezi and again we all know, I don't know a thing was pretty effective at during the election campaign was talking about that minimum wage rise and holding up the coin and all the rest of it. Right, I think that center right of politics has to start getting more vocally behind wage rises rather than just falling behind the sort of general pattern of big business, which.
Is the sky is going to fall in.
Now.
It's difficult for small business. It's always difficult for small business.
But I think politically, if you want to start to eat into that group, and there's obviously a fair amount of people, then the next time one of these things come up, you go, hell yeah, bring it on, bring on the wage rise.
Now, am I wrong in this idea? You're a rug?
I mean, I controversial opinion. I actually don't think the minimum wage is that important either way, and that the economy be controversial.
That's what it would be good to be focusing on that inflation and the taxis situation and trying to figure out ways to come from a more center right position and provide really pleactical solutions to your master.
Living interesting piece again in the Turmbul Times, forgive me mentioning them as often as I am this evening. It's my se so you don't have to in between the constant being for donations. But anyway, data good story today, which was a bunch of academics have come forward under the cloak of anonymity to tell us what we've kind of already known, which is there's a significant number of people that are getting through the university system whose basic
knowledge of English is pretty poor. And I'm not just talking about sort of you know, kids that don't really know what they're doing that are from here, but the
overseas student who doesn't have a grasp of the language. Joe, how do we marry the two Because I always think, sort of, again, I understand the size of the industry, the purpose of the industry, the need for better education, but I think that we've tipped way past this point of no return when the tax payer will guarantee as many butts as you can get in seats will pay up front and anything else you can top up with whoever can pay for it, as opposed to the roller
coaster where you must be this smart to ride.
Yeah, it's a really tricky by as one that divides
universities as well. So the really kind of elite kind of you know, Bluestone and Sandstone universities, the group of a. They love international students because they've got a great reputation overseas, they've got a huge amount of prestige, and they get a huge amount of their money from international students, and in sense is a really really good thing because it means they're basically milking that sky whale in which everybody camera I'd understand, and they can they're not rely on
the tax payer and they can also use those funds for research and that sort of stuff. The problem is when you have smaller universities like say Western sinde, the UNI or Wollongong or whatever are great unis, but they cannot attract that kind of investment from overseas. But of course the other thing that happens is when once you have a sort of you know, pay as you go kind of education system where people from you know, Asia for example, are paying huge amounts of money to send
their kids to safe in the university. Well, you want bang for your buck, don't you want? They have to come back with a degree. And so if they're going to come back with a degree, then you have to make sure that the language component of.
That degree isn't to own us.
That it's prohibitive for them. And that means that when they're in a classroom environment or environment with other students often and I heard this, I've heard this anecdotally for I think decades now, since almost when I was at UNI, that the teaching level of the classroom is as always, you know, reduced to the person sort of who can understand the least, and that.
That is the problem.
So again, you know, Emily, is that I get all of the business model, but again, doesn't there have to be this trade off where you have to know that somebody has a certain series of as they would, not just financial but intellectual and English competency to be able to do the course rather than just thanks for the cash. All right, fill out the forms. We'll get back to you in two years with you know, something with a little stamp on it.
Yeah, well you were saying, butts in seats. I don't even know if the butts are in the seats.
A lot of these kids fingers on computers.
It's on computers. They're not even going to class.
They recently ordered it age, you said, and it was shocking, like these students aren't participating. They don't understand the lecture of the lecture with very good like great professor, great content from and yet these students they're not participating, they can't really understand. They're just going to go look at
the recording later and have it translated for them. And it's really decreasing the value of this education for Australian students, for all the students across the board, anyone who's going to university to genuinely learn is missing out. So I think the only real solution is to introduce more competition, because, like you were saying with the business case, the incentives are all wrong.
It's the fourth largest export in Australia. Education the education is a bit.
But then also we sort of you have any change to this system.
Oh you're trying to stop you poor kids from No, it's all just about. You can be the poorest kid in the poorest street, in the poorest suburb. If you're smart enough to get into the course, you can do the course right. But currently it's just are you willing to turn up after we've offered it to every and anyone else? Because the taxpayer will pay upfront and until you win what the best part of fifty and afit thousand dollars you know to pay anything back. Let's talk
about the Center of Independent Studies. Great report that you did, which was a survey of two and a half thousand people. That's more than the Newspolen numbers. So if the news poll numbers statistically accurate enough for us to sack prime ministers, then you're close to gospel here. What did you find about Australian's attitudes towards companies When they get woke and they start talking about lifestyle not their actual product.
They're not a fan.
Just across the board, Australians do not support this kind of esg. Corporate activism, social activism. It's coming out of these businesses, things like the Voice referendum and Quantus really getting on board. We asked what people thought was the role of business, and seventy two percent said business should stick to protiviting good service to customers, good returns to shareholders, and stay out of politics and stay out of contentious issues and not get involved.
So it feels that, again my sense was a little Bogan Spody senses here is that one of the ways that the left has been able to make particular moves in the past ten years is that win work right. The big business changed right. So you remember you sort of think about the United States as sort of an example of things. Oh, you know, big oil and big finance and all of these things are fighting against us the man as we're trying to fight for a bit
of system. Well now, of course, for a whole bunch of reasons, all of these companies have sort of got little machines inside them that are saying, it's great that we make microphones, but what are we doing about climate change? What surprised you, either positively or negatively about people's attitudes.
I think the thing that surprised me the most was just how little people are actually paying attention. So we asked people that were working for these big companies, how are where are they? And only fifteen percent that they closely followed the activism at their own companies. Wow, around sixty percent didn't know anything about what was going on. They weren't paying attention, They had no idea, nor did
they care. And I think that's really telling that the people that are the closest to these companies are the least engaged.
But also of but I always find a bit odd, Joe, is when companies decide, whatever this is, this is the.
Thing they're going to focus on. Remember when there was.
Like pink caps on bottles of water for about five years. Well, breast cancer existed before and it now exists after. So there's that sort of activism. But then there's the other type of activism, which is far more political.
It actually ties very much to what we were talking about before, and this is that it's nothing to do with the cause. It is all about the company. It is all about the company's brand value and it's brand, how it wants to position itself and how it wants people to see it, not about how much it can do for any of the trip or bottom line.
Right.
I promise you they don't care, because if they did, they'd shut up about it because they tend to harm the causes they talk about, and because people react instinctively, they say, well, don't you don't get to tell me what to do. Even if I agree with what you're saying,
I don't want to hear it. And also, if a company is telling you how to be a better person, or be a better employee, or be a better citizen, that robs you of a huge amount of the reason why you would do that, because you want to think that you are taking these positions out of the goodness of your heart, because you're a smart person, or a kind person or a well informed person, not because your boss has told you that you better do this or.
This is bad.
And with the Voice stuff, I actually spoke to a really really senior stratus was brought in to try to fix the mess too late unfortunately. I said, you have got to stop solicit quotas bought tell them and he said, it's terrible. We don't want them. They're banging our door down and we can't say no. So the company's trying to support the Voice for actually.
And in many ways they do it to avoid.
The internet mob turning on them and them having to deal with all of that for the particular days. But Anyway, that's check for another time.
Thank you guys to appreciate it. We'll see you again next week. All right, quick break. Niger Farage back on Aussie Telly, but as an MP and with plenty to say about the UK and US politics. Mortency like the world is completely different than the last time we had the chance to talk to Nigel Farage. Including he's an MP, Biden's gone, Harris is in, Trump's the same somebody took a shot at him. So good to see you joining us now for the first time in a long time
from London, Nigel. We'll get to the UK stuff at a second, but most importantly, congratulations. I watched so many of your rallies on YouTube. I watched what you did the Happy Warrior was was so invigorating to see congratulations.
On what you and Reform were able to achieve.
Mat No, well, thank you, and I'm sorry I've been away for so long, but I have been, as you say, rather busy one way and t other. The happy Warrior line is very interesting. You know, the modern liberal left are oh so sincere about absolutely everything. I don't think anyone should tell a joke of any kind of tool. If they do they might get canceled. And then so many of the conservative movement across the Western world.
Are just a bit dull as well.
So you know, if we can inject a bit of life, a bit of comedy, a bit of fun in what we do, well, isn't that what ordinary folk do when they live their lives. Yeah, we believe in what we believe in. So yeah, I would love to be thought of as a happy warrior.
I always have been, and you know what, I always will be.
Well, And honestly, I was watching this and I was just like sending copies of this to people in austrating politics, just saying, this is the type of presentation that you have to have, right. There's lots of serious there's lots of edge, there's lots of realism about the polls, debates, all the rest of it.
I loved it. Now I'm going to ask about Trump.
Have you spoken to him since the assassination attimpt?
Yes, briefly, but more importantly, I've spoken to the family at some considerable length. I cannot tell you how incandescent with fury they are at what happened. How the hell does somebody with a high velocity rifle get onto a sloping roof just one hundred and twenty meters away from where Trump is speaking. Has that ever been allowed to happen?
Now?
Without getting deep into deep state conspiracy theory, what I think we can say is the woman that was appointed head of the Secret Service was put there as a woman who'd worked at a big corporate company, PepsiCo, in charge of their security. It looks very like a modern day diversity and inclusion job that it does given to somebody on merit, and it very nearly got Trump killed. I didn't used to believe in miracles, Paul, but after what happened on that day, I think now I do.
And that image of him holding up and fight.
I know that we're living at this breakneck speed, but that is an image that will live forever. And the idea that he didn't know what had happened, and we all know that adrenaline means you may not know where you've been hit and how long you've been hit. That could have been his final moments and for him to instinctively show fight, that was the moment when like even sort of never Trump. The rities that I know in Australia went, you know what, that's literal courage under fire.
And now I'm all in, yeah.
I mean, you can never tell how any of us would react. You know, we've been drafted into the army, We're told to go over the top, whatever it may be. You never know how anyone's going to react until they're actually there. What he showed in that moment was the man that I know. I said on stage in a twenty twenty presidential election in Phoenix, I said, and I pointed a Trump, and I said, this is the bravest man that I've ever met. And my goodness meet, didn't
he prove it that day in Pennsylvania. Totally extraordinary. One things of the historic Iwergema image of them raising the flag after this tens of thousands of Americans died fighting the Japanese and as a statue in DC of the iwer Gema moment, but that was actually staged for a photographer. Trump doing that and saying fight, that was him. It tells you who he may not be perfect, but my
goodness me, he's got the courage of a lion. And right now, with the threats we face, be it from Russia or China or perhaps the most serious of all, Iran, what the Western world needs is a strong, brave leader. Peace only comes through strength, not weakness.
So how does he take on Harris?
Because Harris is in this media bubble where she's not going to be asked a tough question. It will be the debate where when we'll all find out, how does he take her on when the media won't even let his attacks begin?
Yeah, I mean, look, you know she's now the darling of the media.
That was entirely predictable.
Corporate money is flowing in again, what would you expect mainstream media not giving Trump but an even break.
Well, hey, what's changed?
I mean it was the same way against Hillary. Nothing's really changed at all. We're just back to normal really because ultimately Biden had to go, and I mean, frankly, shame on Kamala Harris and others for lying to the American people by saying that their president was competent and up to the job when very clearly he hadn't been for a considerable period of time. It's a funny thing, you know, if you're a strong, alpha male figure, if you're seen to to overtly attack a woman, it just
doesn't look or feel right. So the trum campaign need to think about how they do that. However, they will be helped because every single potential banana skin that's on the floor between now and November the fifth, don't worry Harris will tread on it. She is a very, very
poor candidate. She got nowhere in the primaries in her own party when she ran, you know, for the presidential nomination, and when Biden got it and talk about DEI as I mentioned earlier with the head of the Secret Service, I mean Biden said I'm going to pick a black woman to be the vice presidential running mate, as if to say ability no longer matters. We just pick someone because we're ticking boxes. Honestly, I think under fire she'll
make terrible mistakes. We'll hear that sort of hyena like nervous laugh that she does.
I don't think this is difficult.
And you know, even if the love is on the on the coasts, think she's wonderful. Remember this, The presidential election will be one or last in the Midwest, the old industrial States. That is why jd Vance right, That is why the working class boy from Ohio who wrote Hill Billy Ellergy, that is why he's been picked as the vice presidential candidate.
I am not Paul concerned at all. Well, we will dig into all of that next week. I'm overtime, but thanks for the check. I do appreciate it. We'll talk to Nigel again next week. The Late Debate is next