Paul Murray Live | 3 June

get the biggest pay rise in ten years. But you should be thankful to the government because they are sending twenty five dollars a month to mansions around Australia to help with their power bills. Of course, we celebrate a man who travels the world as regularly as this Prime Minister does. He apparently calls the taxpayer under jet that he's on right now, Toto one, named after the little puppy, and as you know, he's taking delivery not one, but

two brand new private jets. Oh but they were ordered under the last gouverment, so we couldn't possibly cancel it during the cost of living budgets of two No, no, no, We'll take the new planes anyway. And despite the fact that we celebrate this Prime Minister, occasionally we do have to acknowledge that he says one thing and then does another, or said something way back when but does another thing now. But I'm very pleased with how.

that he was asked about. The central issue about why did the Australian government start making special services for New Zealanders as opposed to other people around the world who should will have been sent home because of their crimes. Well, again, this story didn't come from prime time. It came from the early hours of Sunday morning when Andrew Clannell, our National political editor, was the one who broke the story. Here it is on our website and here it is from his own mouth.

Direction ninety nine. My information from sources involved in implementing the decision at the time is that both Immigration Minister Andrew Giles and the Prime Minister's Department instructed the Home Affairs Department to quote fix the problem.

we have a housing crisis. Well, I've got about an acres worth of space in the Prime Minister's head that clearly we occupy, and if anyone would like to put a block of units on it, feel free and solve the housing crisis, because clearly we're on his mind even more than he would ever like to admit, Which brings us to the idiot Andrew Giles, the minister who should have been sacked a long time ago, who was a result of his decision and his failures, has seen people

bashed and worse in the country. Now, as you know, he presides over a system that he claims is independent, but as the ABC you know that far right wing organization has already proven the independent body that actually has links straight back to the minister and is technically there

to advise the minister. And that independent group apparently had made the decision that certain people who had come out as a result of the High Court decision at the end of last year, that those people shouldn't wear ankle bracelets. But don't worry, because according to the Immigration Minister, there was magical drones in the sky being used to monitor these people to make sure they didn't do anything bad.

over there and somehow it's Scott Morrison's fault. For their part, the Opposition say, what is very obvious, this bloke's got to go.

that relentlessly regardless of either side of politics. But certainly in the past two years, Australians every pole, every time tell us that too many people are coming to Australia, that they believe the migration rate is too high. But the little Canberra bubble within the bubble, that being the media who patrols the bubble, well they don't want to

talk about this. They somehow think there's something frankly a little bit racist about discussing anything to do with migration, despite the fact that I've made it very clear that it's not about where you come from. It's not about the language that the your parents spoke, it's not about what you look like. It's not about what you have for dinner. It's not about what God you do or don't believe in. It's just simply the infrastructure that exists today is not good enough for all of the people

that are already here. So when you turn around and tip hundreds of thousands of more people into that system, then all of those problems get worse because When it comes to state governments, they build hospitals ten years from now for today's standard. When it comes to the federal government, they build infrastructure for today's need. They don't turn around and build four or five lane roads. We'll do another

two lane road and put a toll on it. But of course when you add more and more people, well, of course that traffic jam gets bigger. But of course it's not just the traffic jam, it's hospital ramping. When people call trip loo, an ambulance eventually turns up, and then in every state in the country, every single state, and Tasmania, hospital ramping is the worse it's ever been because the hospitals aren't good enough. But no, add more people.

That's always been my issue with immigration, equally so on the simple rules of supply and demand. If you end up putting more people onto the demand side of the housing industry, well then more people competing for fewer properties means the price goes up lit alone. The same when it comes to rental properties, and right now there's an awful lot of Australians who cannot get into either of those two markets, and the number of people are homeless is going through the roof. Now, does that mean that

you have to blame anyone who looks different than you? No, never said it, never infert it. In fact, gone out of my way every time to say that that is not the case. Yet the guardians of the bubble, the bubble within the bubble, that is the media, say any

conversation about this stuff, well, of course it's racist. Perfect example of this is nasty Nicky Sava, who of course now writes over in the Sidney Morning Herald and constantly pops up over there on the ABC, and she is already telegraphed that this conversation about migration is not acceptable. It is a bad conversation to have. It is a

little bit her inference racist. Why because this is what she wrote just after sixty forty or No, with the bloody success of its campaign to Troy the Voice, it is obvious that the Coalition will use the same techniques, apparatus and expertise to try to smash Anthony Abernezi at

the next federal election. It goes on to say, from the top down, remember that phrase, from the top down, the government is now convinced that coalition has the means and the motivation and has already zeroed in on the issue that will that sorry, the issue with the pivot, with the potential to create the same chaos and division as the voice on an even grander scale. Immigration. Now, why are we confident the Nicky Savas words there about

the government from the highest levels down. Well, it's pretty well informed because the former Senator Rex Patrick, remember, of course, has done everything he can to try to get access to the Prime Minister's diary. He was able to get access eventually and among the very first people to get face to face one on one meetings, not interviews, meetings with the Prime Minister, the Sydney Morning Herald columnist Nicky Sava. So yes, she would be informed directly by the Prime

Minister in these private meetings, not interviews. Oh, we're really worried about dotting an immigration now. Of course, if you don't quite know who I'm talking about when it comes to Nicky Savage, She's got every possible award in the world. And again she will opine in her way about how evil the Liberal Party is now pulled to the right it is, and how Sky News is part of the problem. But I just should give you a quote from twenty ten where Nicki says, as a journalist, I lied often,

usually about my sources, but about other things. Journalists can and do get away with lying. Politicians and staff don't, nor should they, so surprise, surprise. One rule for the people policing the bubble, another rule for the people who

don't please the person policing the bubble. But again, this issue about immigration, it's so frankly nineteen nineties the left's view that any conversation about the size and nature of immigration must therefore be racist, when of course, the reality of every suburb every person watching this show lives in is that it is way more diverse and better for

it since the nineteen nineties. And of course, Laura Tingle, who no doubt will be being excused from all issues whatsoever because again she's one of the great high processes of the left, and no doubt a law be an evil news corp hit job, blah blah blah blah blah, despite the fact that of course her calling the country

racist was covered by the nine newspapers. But you know, just a news corp thing, right, And of course she said this ridiculous thing that apparently when the government cuts immigration, which allegedly is their policy not racist. When Peter Dutton says he's going to cut it further, that is racist. Rather tape for a major point.

monitor Morgan. Every time his question gets asked, the same response comes back. Where if you follow the red line, more people believe that immigration is too high than just about right or too low. O. That's for the entire country. Amazingly, forty eight percent is the number across the whole country in the Act where the bubble lives it is fifty two percent. It is a whole four points higher where the people in the Act claim that the immigration rate

is too high. That's higher than the national average. But what about the Northern Territory seventy seven percent of people Todd the Lowe Institute that immigration is too high. In Greater Sydney it was fifty one percent, which is worth noting. Canberra, by the way, has a different view than Melbourne. Melbourne has forty six percent of people saying it's too high, the Act forty eight percent. But you voted yes, didn't you. Oh we're not wraith Yeth. And for the rest of

queenslande excluding Southeas Queensland, it's fifty six percent. Now, this pole was really good. It broke it down on age factors, on gender, some political lines. But there you go. An extreme majority of the Act Yes, country thinks that immigration is too high. Does this mean that these people are all inherently racist? Because didn't the Act vote yes? So therefore how could they be racist on him? I don't know. But then again, apparently this is where the truth comes

to die. The reality is that Australians are immigrants and all of us have some connection somewhere, and we're all proud of it. And by and large we all get along with our neighbors. We say get aid to strangers. It doesn't matter from where they're from. That we are all interested in a great future together. Doesn't mean that there are not racists amongst us, of course, but none

of that is approved of. None of that is okay by those of us who want to have a conversation about the demand on public services that come from more people being added to the country at an artificial rate in order to prop up the federal budget. So in part, the politicians that the bubble gatekeepers want to keep in power get to say vote for us because we've had

two surpluses. But if the reality for most Australians is that their weight for everything got longer or their services got harder to access in part because of that, it's not racist. It's just the reality of life in Australia where more people in the Act than Melbourne think we should cut the rate. Oh how dare they same? Pol from the Lower Institute also points towards nuclear power. Now again the Prime Minister is out there telling all and sundry and again many of the bubble figures go, oh,

this is disgraceful. It's so expensive. Well, what about the trillion dollars of moving from colder renewables. Oh and Australians definitely don't want nucular power. Apart from the ones who entered this survey. That what the best part of sixty one percent of people do you support or opposed Australia using nuclear power to generate electricity alongside other sources of energy? Twenty seven percent? Hell yeah, thirty four percent. Yeah, okay,

that's what gets us to six in ten voters. Now, I noticed this popped up somewhere in the Turmble Times today and then it got bear it as fast as possible. The hardcore opposition is just seventeen percent. You can add to it another twenty and you get to thirty seven percent who say no, vast majority you say yes, a couple of percent who don't know. But you know where the bubble and we know what's right always. Now, something that does is worth talking about is something that was

written about by our mad Paul Kelly. Now we don't get the opportunity to interview Paul Kelly from the Australian newspaper on the show that much, but lots of other programs do we respect this work, And of course we read so much of what he has to say in the oars, particularly on the weekends, because the weekend stuff is where he gets to sit back and have a

look at some bigger issues. And there's something really interesting that he wrote about this weekend, far more eloquently that I would be able to come up with off the top of my head. Remember on this show there's no script. It's just me looking into the camera. And he says, among other things, that the Middle East War has exposed the sheer depth of shattered values in Australia. He basically is starting to talk about the many factors within our

country that are now turning us into the two Australias. Now, he says, the nation is more divided than ever about fundamental values, leading to a growing cultural chasm with two sure consequences. It is far more difficult to achieve national interest policies, and once a society is split on values, then mutual trust quickly evaporates. This is Australia's plight. We cannot get things done because we disagree fundamentally. Every sign is the CITI is that the situation is getting worse.

The cultural schism is not a straight binary split, but more a series of intersecting splits. The point is that the two cultures didn't emerge overnight, yet they can emerge quickly over the course of a generation. Every sign is that is happening right now in Australia. As very clever analysis. Now, the truth is that we like to make it easy to say that people are on this side or that side of the argument, if you're team Red or team blue.

But as I've always argued, the left doesn't own compassion, the right can too. Equally, the right doesn't own strength, the left can. Two. Moral certainty is something that most people in the political debate would suggest that they have and nobody else has, and whoever disagrees with them is somehow not as moral. But the point that he made in the article, and I do suggest that you read it, is in part, once we start to get to that place where the people we disagree with to think that

we are morally superior to those we disagree with. And I, as you've seen tonight, disagree with plenty but I do not believe that I am morally superior to any of the people I disagree with. I assume they all love their kids, they all love their family, they're all loved by their friends, and I'm sure they're all nice people

to the people who know them. But how often do you see attributed from the left to the right when it comes to the people they disagree with somehow anything that someone who disagrees with them has some sort of malicious intent. Look at that debate about the Voice, where the government of course said it was all misinformation, or the twenty nineteen election where they said it was all memes,

or the Tampa election. Every time there's a center right victory in this country, there's an asterisk next to it, according to the left. But every time there's a left wing victory like twenty and twenty two or two thousand and seven, this is the revolution where we have changed and therefore nobody is allowed to disagree. If you disagree,

you part of the past. But when we think about these two Australias and where they connect, where they don't connect, where at times they're in direct opposition, there's lots of other examples, and the ones that Paul Kelly had to look at and I think that cost of living is one of those. There's always been people of certain wealth and certain poverty in our country, but it feels that the great group in the middle is just being told

to shut up and pay your taxes. You're not good enough for the handout, and you're not important enough for the red carpet. Perfect example of this again in the Turmbul Times. They talk about the number of people who are out and about spending quite freely at this period

of time. But of course the problem for those that are out in buying knew this and knew that, and sexy this and sexy that, and they don't care or they ring it up on the credit card is that all of that, of course, then turns around and creates the argument for an increase in interest rates, which means, of course the middle class working people end up getting the screws tightened on them day in day out, to the extent where many people in the country have to

find tens of thousands of dollars more to pay off their house. And it's not even the dream house, remember, let alone the people who have to try to save tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of dollars to be able to get a deposit. But because the reserve Bank only has one switch and it goes up and it goes down, you have this chasm. Same when it comes to the energy policy of the country. You have the richest people amongst us who say, of course, we absolutely

must make the change. But they are safe enough in knowing that not one wind farm or one solar farm will be anywhere near their house or their dog park or the ritzy bits of town. They know to law go out there, because out there is nowhere near them, and therefore out there doesn't matter. And when it comes to cost of living again we learn about the people

in the middle who are hurting right now. And there was a great story on the weekend that even the people who volunteer, and I think there's a group of Australians who are so amazing, and they're not just the people wh volunteer at the footy clubs. I'm talking about that the men and women, or as leftist would say, the women and men who volunteer for things like the rural Fire Service or the sees and think about it in regional areas. These are the people who respond to

car crashes. If any of these rich people ended up having holes blown through their roof because of hail, they would end up calling their local version of the SEES, which of course is filled with volunteers. And volunteers are now saying because of the cost of living, they can't afford to take the days off work. But it doesn't matter because there's a hole in my roof to Henry, dear Henry, please come and fix it right now with a tar poland because I'm off to go shopping tomorrow.

They just don't care. Sadly, there are at times two Australias that afford upon the most ridiculous forms of the gender lines. We see how often this garbage about I'd be more comfortable with a bear than a man in Australia. It's ridiculous. Then, of course you have the education issues in Australia and they divide between those that made it to university and those who didn't. And again supposedly that people with higher education they end up voting to the left.

I smarter people vote for the left. Dumb dumbs vote for the right. What was that thing again the Prime Minister said about lies and this television station. Again, if you watch this stuff, they have a very nasty view not of us, but of you. They think that you're surplus to the conversation. You're the boomers, the ones who apparently have had it so good for so long, no problems in your life whatsoever, and now somehow it's time for you to pay up so the next generation can

have the same amazing life that you had. Again, this is all just like this, and then they turn around and anytime you try to push back against any of these policies, it's misinformation or it's where truth goes to die. Seriously, a perfect example about this too, is about other people's money. Now you've heard this story a couple of times throughout the night, but it's still worth talking about. And that's mate,

Bill Shorten. Can you believe the taxpayers are having to find six hundred thousand dollars for a speech writer three hundred grand a year for the past couple of years. Now he's not the prime minister, but apparently he thinks he deserves his speechwriter to get paid what a prime minister or speech writer should be paid. But even then, three hundred grand's too much a year. Here is Bill Shorton talking about it on a current affair tonight. What happened?

heard about this was today. That won't be continuing. The first opportunity I have to rewrite or not renew the contract. That's what I'll do instead, oh cheap liberal party tactics, when the same sort of stuff would have been practiced by labor for how long and how many times over the past couple of years. But of course it's all different now we're back in government and we've learnt all of our lessons from the Rand and Gilload years. We're

so much better, aren't we. All right? Finally, in the United States, before we get to our debate, this Monday night, as you know, Donald Trump appeared on Fox and Friends on their weekend program. He did so from his home in Bedminster, New Jersey, and any of you where I've got to say, if you actually go back and watch it, you go, that's the Trump that you want on the campaign trail. That's not the Catherine Wheel That's a bloke

who's just speaking calmly all the rest of it. That's the bloke who will and truly could win the upcoming election. He's also just joined TikTok. Now this is interesting. Previously he wanted to ban it, but now the Parliament and Joe Biden a passed the legislation for TikTok to be sold off to an American owner. So therefore he has now joined TikTok, trying to save the platform, but more importantly to be able to play videos like this to get young voters on his side.

CBS they believe that it is a fair trial. When it comes to that question of a fair trial, of course, it breaks down. Ninety five percent of Democrats say yes, eighty six percent of Republicans say no. But most importantly, the people who will decide the election independence, Fifty four percent of them say yep, it's fair. Independence Again, fifty six percent say that they got to the right verdict him guilty. Ninety six percent of Democrats say that's the case.

Eighty two percent of Republicans, Interestingly, that eighteen percent number of Republicans would be that nicky Hayley wing. Obviously, of eighteen percent of them don't vote for Trump, then Biden's going to win again. I'll show you the data. I'll have plenty to say and lots of bluster and lots of opinion, but I'll show you the data. However, forty five percent of people say no, he shouldn't go to jail, compared to thirty eight percent who say yes. So we'll

all wait and see what happens there. But guess what happens in America? Tonight, Hunter Biden goes to trial one of two trials, this one about falsifying information to get a gun license. Interestingly, this story all started when his sister in law got rid of the gun. Now, I won't bore you with the details here, but yes, Hunter and the sister in law of his dead brother did have a little relationship. Whatever their business, do what you want.

But interestingly, apparently one of the chief witnesses against Hunter Biden when it comes to this gun is going to be his brother's widow. Now, it's been about nine years since Bo Biden passed away, and every family has a right to mourn But interestingly, television cameras were there to see Joe Biden going to the house of his son's widow and former partner of Hunter, where, of course they only ever discussed family matters. They never discussed at all

behind closed doors. What she would be telling a court about Hunter in a couple of days time. An interesting question which was asked by Peter Deucy of the White House. Imagine if this was Trump, by the way, but how a look.

you very much for watching. Let's get straight into it right now. A man who you do not say chad around at any point in time, the wonderful Sam Cross be lovely to see you, sir, looking looking at it very inside joke. Yeah, but you look at healthy. That's all that matters right now. And of course a man who loves the food they have there at Parliament House. I mean it is just made with love, particularly for National Party MPs. Is none other. The center of Matt

Canavan joining us now from Melbourne. So I had plead to say about immigration and again sort of the high priestesses of the camera bubble saying that there's something kind of racist about talking about it. But yet again another pole comes out, Matt and tells us exactly what we know, including that a very high number of people in the Act think that immigration is too high. But tell me why is this conversation always meant both people on the left as some sort of a dog whistle about race.

their heart's not really in it. And today at s Senate estimates, it was uncovered that we according to Treasury, we have five hundred thousand more temporary visa holders here than we normally do on average. So on average, before the pandemic, we'd have about one point nine million temporary

visa holders in the country. At thet we have two point four million people, and if they live in houses at two point five people per house, as the rest of the population do that's two hundred thousand homes we need. We're only building one hundred seventy thousand homes a year, and.

last twenty year average. Last twenty year average is just under two hundred thousand people a year, and the Labor Party want to put it above average. And when I put that to Kadie Gallagher, the Financeman should no answer about why they've chosen a figure above the long term average. They're trying to slip this in by deceit here, by saying, oh, look it's down from where it was. It was up here, we're going to bring it down here, but it's still well above average.

doing this pole only asked white people. So what is it about the sort of institutional left show. I always think that there's something racist about talking.

something that are not so crazy on the left. But big business, big corporates, they want this number to be high because they want cheap wages, They want people to be able to do the jobs for them.

don't get skilled shortages in those areas. I mean, the whole reason that we've got a massive house problem right now is that we stopped building houses during COVID, and then in the months and years after COVID we just didn't cope, and then we went straight back to full migration immediately afterwards. That's the problem. So we we're having this who's responsible for the migration rate? The federal government.

The federal government. It was the federal government under your previous government was under Stop Larson.

on your screen right now. The subscription five bucks a month. I'll be the first of mini hosts to answer the Ask Me Anythings, and if you've got any questions for other hosts, please ask Me Anything at skynews dot com dot Au. We are here with Sam Crosby with Senator Matt Canevan so Trump guilty thirty four times the polling, it is too early to work out where it's going to go. But I showed before that again independence the swing voters of the election, they approve of the trial,

they approve of its result. So Sam's a man I would like to see Biden win. How do you feel about what has happened and does it change the race that Trump was winning.

kind of a prison home detention sentence. Staggered it would be seen as such a dramatic, over the top sentence based purely on his statue and who he is as a person. That said, I don't think the comments today necessarily help you know, Oh, the country's not going to stand for this. Well, he essentially threatening insurrection.

debates to the end. But now we're going to the debates first, then a court room, then a convention, and then a big run to the election. So do you think that Trump stalls between now and that debate or he continues to lead.

say that for Joe Biden. Of course, there's not a lot of enthusiasm there, so it's going to be very, very hard. But they're going to throw the kitchen sink at Trump. I'm not so sure I agree with Sam though, that he won't face jail time.

big event that we know about is the debate. But this is the debate that is a different debate. It's in a TV studio, microphone switched off, no side cam, so basically the interruption fest that happened last year. And isn't that a scenario where the expectations are always so lie with Biden that if he can survive it, he wins it, and if Trump sort of starts screaming, then again Biden wins it.

And That'll be fascinated to see Matt because I haven't seen the great defense of himself in Biden. And if he's coming up against the buzz saw of Trump, who is at his best at full attack, not defense, then that makes this an interesting one in a few weeks time.