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Any parent who's had the chance to be able to see their kids get married, you know the pride that has inside you. I now understand why my mother was a little upset when I decided to go off on a lope on the other side of the world. Well, two of our favorite people, especially a young lady by the name of Madison Thorne, who has been the EP of this program for a long time. She got married on the weekend and my little girls were her flower girls. The pride, the tears that I had when they're just
the flower girls. Wait till forty years time, right, forty years time, when they it's their moment. But it was beautiful. Congrats Nomadic Congrats Toadom and al Jason photos a little later in the week now tonight. Lots to get to, including yes, the shuffling of the deck chairs on the Titanic. The people who will not fail this time despite the fact that they failed last time. I'll show you the data.
White Trump is still winning the presidential race, despite the hype, despite the money, and speaking of what about the bloke who's spent like more than one hundred thousand dollars buying Princess Leia's bikini. It's been a while since it was worn nineteen eighty three, but still he's decided to purchase it for a lot of money. A little bit creepy, but I know it's winter, but it's really freezing at
the moment, isn't it. I don't know about you, but as you've seen sort of, you know, most of us are walking around with slightly sore throats or feel it just like that extra jumper all the rest of it. And it doesn't matter, like when I was in Queensland not that long ago, freezing Victoria of course as always cold, you know, tazzy, you name it cold everywhere, right, So we learned today that there is an eastern frigid cold snap.
It's going to make things even worse for places like Brisbane, where the expectation is that their ten year weather records and temperatures are going to go Canber as always this timing year, but more and longer periods of time under freezing. Of course, we have a weather channel here, so it's helpful to find out why is it so cold this winter?
Yesterday the apparent temperature stayed below seven degrees all day in Sydney, and it looks like a similar thing today if you factor in these cold west to southwesterly winds thanks to a low pressure cell that's just off the New South Wales coastline at the moment.
But poor Kenny, Kenny, heatly go outside and prove that it's cold. Poor bugger doing the reporting again. When does this get better? Tuesday?
Wednesday, Thursday look okay, still a little bit blustery and cool in Sydney, but not as bad as what we're seeing yesterday and today in this weekend a bit cloudy, so the cloud trapping at a bit of heat at night, keeping those minimum temperatures higher and daytime temperatures up into the high scenes.
Why start with the weather when we can all look outside and me we'll know it's cold. Because it's also a reminder, whatever heater that you have, make sure that there are blankets that are as far away from them as possible. If you've got one of those old school
bar heaters, you probably should replace it by now. But if you've got one of them, please please please make sure that there is nothing If you fell asleep in the chair watching Telly, or if you've got it close to the bed, Please make sure nothing is in contact with the heater. On normal years where there's not huge spikes in the number of lives that are lost during bushfires, there are more people who lose their lives and their
homes during these winter periods of time. So I love you, I need you to be around, Your family needs you to be around. So please be safe with the heaters that are around you because it is very cold.
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Of course, today the major focus was the new version of the greatest government of all time, the reshuffle, because two people decided to hang up their boots. But there's more than two changes that, of course were made, and we know that the actual story here was that Andrew Giles and Clara O'Neil, because of their hopeless handling of the immigration and National security portfolios that are home affairs, of course, have all been booted, and rightly so now
we know why. But it is kind of amazing when you watch the six PM news or wider political coverage that no one really talks about the reason for the moves that have been made. They get to it eventually, but of course it's the poles now, the polls right now show that in the six months between now and
the most likely next election, the government is behind. Now yes, because of the teals, we don't know what the results going to be, but the almost inevitability of the minority government scenario for labor and deeper minority means more Greens and more crazy is being in charge of things. But poll after Pole News poll has got it. In a
scenario where the coalition's vote is strengthening. Are the polls that one in the Financial Review shows the coalition overtaking the popular vote numbers now fifty one to forty nine for them over in the Resolve poll. Peter Dutton is
edging your head. Why because voters are consistently moving against this government when it comes to the handling of the economy, and it is the only issue, of course, with daylight second, but so little chat about it because of course the PM was out there selling his wares and geez, how brave of him to rearrange his troops, while the rest of the countries is understandably just enjoying the relief that he is watching the Olympics for a couple of weeks.
And I get it, and I thank you for watching us live and certainly listening to us at skynews dot com are you podcast and all the rest of it here, and you are the hardcorese You are the people who have been so loyal to me, to this station for year in, year out, and we've forever thankful. But we know there are millions of people that are just you know, watching diving for the only time they do every four years.
The Prime Minister uses the cover of that distraction to well make the changes that he needed to make because of the underperforming ministers. But the Prime Minister had the stones today to again tell us that up is down and black is white and what is before your very own eyes is a cheap fake like the Biden administration used to say about Joe Biden falling up the stairs. He claims that these major and significant changes, particularly this
significants in and around home affairs. I no changes whatsoever. It's all steady as she goes, it's all continuity. It's all the greatest and most stable government since the best of the Howard years. Of course this isn't true, but that doesn't mean the Prime Minister won't say it.
And that is something that my government has brought stability as I've said today we have the first reshuffle after more than two years and two months. That compares with four reshuffles under Peter Dutton. You've had dysfunction. On the other side, what you've had with this Labor government is stability, order, consistency going forward.
Not to mention belligerence. Of course, the ministers who were there in immigration and in Home Affairs should have been sacked instead they're all moved around under the cover of the Olympics. One of the mean girls in Senator Gallay her she should have been sacked after being caught lying to the Senate about what she knew, and she didn't know about all of the matters to do with behaviors
in and around Parliament House back in twenty nineteen. But the belligerence of this government is just never had been a mistake. Because if you've never had been a mistake, then you get to turn around and say how stable are we now. You didn't say how effective they were, he didn't say how good they were, He didn't say what they had achieved. It just was all about stability. It's the same logic that says when it comes to our economy. Sure, for five quarters in a row, which
is a year and three months. We have been in a per capita recession. You are suffering. Yet because the government gets more money than they were planning out of things like growing bracket creep or maybe turning around an extra resources, they get to say that they're fantastic economic managers. Because there's a budget surplus. You're supposed to believe that despite the fact that you were going backwards. It had been going back every day since this bloke became Prime minister,
with twelve interest rate rises thirteenth on the way. Oh, but they've got a suplus, which means that they know what they're doing. The two little too late tax cuts were, of course, billions of dollars wasted on a political slogan. The idea that they're paying the power bills of the mansions of this country at the same time as it's the exact same amount as the one bedroom unit tells
you everything. It's all about politics, and amazingly, the people who know that the government is statistically in trouble right now. It has had plenty of problems. It has failed to deliver on its central promise on things like cost of living and interest rates are this close to going up again because inflation is not under control yet. Haven't listen to how most of them spoke today. They spoke as if they were taking it from the perspective of the
Prime minister. Now, occasionally some people might agree because this is their preferred side of politics. But the reason they reshuffled the government is because they are behind in the polls and they are failing to meet their promise. But this stuff could have been written by Albo himself.
Well, no one is being dropped.
Both Immigration Minister Andrew Giles and Home Affairs Minister Claire O'Neill are widely expected to be shifted. This reshuffle marks a refresh for labor. I am stressed it had nothing to do with their handling off the release of more than one hundred and fifty immigration detainees.
Reshuffles are an opportunity for renewal.
They're an opportunity for refresh Prone to using football analogies, so here's one for him.
You don't win Grand finals by having some of your best players sitting on the bench.
Whatever, Nasi Niki Sava of course. So for Bilde, I see her comments back when she was selling a book around twenty and Tine twenty ten. But of course we know that she's going to be part of this group of people that just think it's all about Dutton. And
I'll get to that in a second. But do you not find it amazing that all of the people who are paid to talk about politics for a living, who clearly preferred this government because this government was a refresh which means they've all started to have their new relationships and so often, and it doesn't matter, by the way, whether we're talking about generally speaking, business journalism, entertainment journalism, sports journalism, or in this case, political journalism, access to
the people in power is vitally important. Why because quite often the media demands fresh, new, exclusive stories, and very
rarely those stories are critical of the government. Instead their little bits of information from the government, or you're able to show look how powerful I am because I can pick up the phone and get a minister to turn up and talk to me, Which is why you get this scenario where rather than just being critical of a government that is on one knee, that is behind in multiple poles, that has failed on multiple fronts, they don't say it, Oh, it's all just a refresher, rebrand shot
in the arm, no admission of any problems whatsoever. And also an example about like anything right and again I talk about politics. Our obsession is politics. But it's the same when a whole bunch of new people are brought in to talk about business, or a whole bunch of new people cover the courts, or a whole bunch of
new people cover the entertainment industry. Is that when people who haven't been around for long enough, well, they don't remember the failures of the past, which in part would be perhaps the reason why there is so little response to Tony Burke being made the Home Affairs and Immigration Minister. Now, this is a bloke who was an immigration minister in
the failed former Labor government. His performance as the migration minister back then was highlighted by the Liberal Party today on social media where six thousand, six and a half thousand illegal arrivals came in and eighty three boats. Those boats were not turned back. They ended up coming to the mainland, they ended up going into detention and after they went through a process they probably got released along with thousands of others by this government under temporary protection VISUS.
Can someone somewhere please explain to me how the solution to the Home Affairs problem is to put back in charge of the blood bank the dracula who had already had his fangs into it. I don't understand now. Again, there are many people around in politics who have not been here for a New York minute, who have seen these things come and go. But where was this point being made? Again? Think about any underperforming minister from any government that you can think of, right team, read team blue,
good guy, bad guy, men, women, whatever, senators, MPs. The idea that somebody who had failed in a portfolio then labor had lost government, Labour comes back to government and the same person who had failed once before gets another crack at it. Thankfully Andrew Hasty was not in the Parliament, but certainly remembers that this blow not all he's cracked up to me.
This isn't about the national security or strengthening our border. In fact, Tony Burke when he was last Immigration Minister, let in about eighty three votes and more than six and a half thousand illegal arrivals, so he's not tough on boarders. This is about empowering Tony Burke, who is under immense pressure electorally. We know that there is a
very strong Muslim vote in Western Sydney. They're very energized around the gaza issue and Tony Burke's under pressure and so this is about giving him a portfolio that has cachet with the migrant community and empowering him so that he can hold this seat.
One hundred percent. Now, it's fine for the opposition to make that point, but do we have to wait till that time of the day for the people who have paid to talk about politics to make up to make
up to make that point. Meantime, in the real world, now, it doesn't matter whether you are sitting in your dream home on a farm, you've got your favorite dogs around you, you've got your feet up and you're nice and warm, or whether you're in a suburb in a house that is not your dream house, but it's good enough for you because you love it very much. So we are frightened about interest rates right now. Now Australians are very worried about what is going to happen in the next
little while. When it comes to the reserve back Inflation is sitting at a stage where it is starting to go back up. If it keeps going up, they are going to put up interest rates. All of that is going to, of course be a huge problem. Now again, if the reason why we had to have all of the changes in and around the ministry was because obviously some people were underperforming, obviously others were breaking promises, well
what about the scenario in and around the economy. Now, of course it would be madness to suggest that this Prime Minister would make anything as serious as an omission that they're not managing the economy. Well, but Jim Charmers is out and about trying to tell you that everything's okay when it comes to inflation, despite the fact that he and the Reserve Bank agreed it needs to be between two and three percent last month or sorry, I should say, in May. We'll get our numbers for June shortly.
Last month in May it was four percent and it started to go back up. Yet he's out there telling everyone, don't worry, we're on top of inflation. The same budget that pumped billions of dollars in a slow, trickled fashion, but still billions of dollars back into the economy for people to spend, which wasn't going to affect you inflation. Still, trust me, because inflation, despite the fact that the evidence
is it's going in the wrong direction. He just thinks he can magically will it in the opposite direction.
So I'm confident that even though the inflation number that we expect to see on Wednesday, we expect inflation to have been persistent in our economy and the Dune court. But we are still confident that inflation and will continue to moderate after that.
So is this him preparing us for it's going to go up again?
Now?
Of course, if it goes up again, then the Reserve Bank is most likely going to do the only thing it can, which is to jump into another interest rate rise. And I think the thirteenth interest rate rise on this government's watch is going to be a political killer, but more importantly, it's going to be a financial killer for
hundreds of thousands of people. We learned last week it's about eight hundred thousand people that will move into mortgage stress, on top of the minions more who were already there mortgage stress to find as people literally in the scenario where they are paying too much when it comes to being able to live somewhere and there's not enough left over to pay for the rest of their time and
it's not because they want to live fancy life. It's because there have been twelve interstrate rises since this government came to power. Oh but everything's fine and we're the most consistent government of all time. And the media turn around and basically give a version of the talking points back. Maybe you will pay any attention because the Olympics are
on fed income. But another bit of data about how tough times are right now, and it is all directly linked to another problem that apparently this government was absolutely going to solve, well certainly dramatically solved, to the tune of two hundred and seventy five dollars by next year, and that is power prices. Now. As crippling as power prices are for every family in the country, they are
crippling for business. Think about this about your local chicken shop, real est, that agent, whatever it is, If they've got the lights on, they're sucking in power. The bills that they have to pay are not you know, a few hundred or maybe a thousand dollars a quarter, they are thousands of dollars. That's an awful lot of dumplings and somosas that you have to sell to be able to keep your head above water or obviously that was bread.
But what about the hospitality industry. Well, we learned that the number of businesses that have just gone and could put in the past twelve months is surging compared to the previous year. This is not the responsibility of the former government, but the data about this government. The Australian hospitality and retail industries fail at record numbers in twenty twenty four. Why because cost of living and the cost
of power. Hospitality business has failed at the fastest rates on record in the twenty twenty four financial year as sawing food and energy prices and a pullback and consumer spending pushed cafes and restaurants to the wall. See you know this and I know this, but there's putting people inside government who don't quite understand that there's an actual restaurant on the other end of these things. It's not just magically food is grown inside your phone and then
somebody brings it to your house. Let alone, if you decide not to go back to the office, I'm going to work from home for ever, that the same business that you rely for the coffee, the sausage roll or anything else to be available. The next time you do wander into work once a month, Well, guess what when people aren't going back to work, those businesses don't have
enough income. They hit the wall. The businesses that are trying to desperately hold on know that most people will end up ordering their food through some sort of app that'll take a third of the price. While the cost of insurance keeps going up, the cost of power keeps
going up, the cost of wages keeps going up. But remember, as I have said to you so many times, the whole economic project of the modern left Labor Party is that they will be able to achieve a permanent electoral majority that does not require small business that is contemptuous
of business that has a life outside of government. Now, sure they need you for the company tax, and they'll take that break, but remember the single biggest source of income for the federal government is not the GST, is not company tax, but is the pay as you go
pay packets of each and every Australian worker. The project that we've seen play out in Victoria and in Queensland, Western Australia and other places where labor has been in power for so long is that they hire so many public servants that you are either dependent on the government because you work for the government, they increase so much welfare or handout money that they end up with a scenario where they want you to be dependent on the government to help supplement your wage, or if you are
in business, they want government to be the biggest client. So therefore you will not upset the apple cart. The people who live outside of that system, small business, the very people who are hitting the wall at record numbers. But because most of the people who talk about politics are part of this over reliance and inter reliance on government, they don't pay attention to it. We'll just order from another option on the phone where that app will take up to a third of their moneies. Back to the
quotes here again. After those hospitality rates and record numbers of shutdowns so far this year, the new data from the Australian Securities and Investment Commission shows that accommodation and food services insolvency appointments rose faster than any other sector
in the past twelve months. The number of collapses had skyrocketed by fifty percent to sixteen hundred and sixty seven, competed to its previous high of about one thousand, the year before retail trade appointments, that being people who had ended up going to the wall. Insolvencies and administrators that
had surged by forty two percent. If all the numbers and all the words are boring to you, here's the graph this year eleven and a bit thousand, the previous year when costant living crisis was still an issue, seven almost eight thousand. These are good, decent people who went all in on their business and their businesses hit the wall. This government could not care less. Meantime, another indiscy here
about how people are doing it tough. The people who are just completely ignored by this government couldn't care less because again, you've got to work for the government, or you've got to be dependent on the government, or your client's got to be the government. And then we can gave about sixty seventy percent of the vote and it doesn't matter what anyone else says. The machine much is on.
What about people with cars? Numbers out today about the number of people who are not making their car repayments. If you're like enough to pay your car off, you're driving around in an old one, well good luck to you. But there are plenty of people who for a whole bunch of ways and different finance options they're trying to
pay one off and car repositions. Guess what they have surged another sign of just how bad things are, so they can give themselves a pat on the back and a gold star and a little tickle on the tummy from the media. The reality in the community is we don't buy the bs that comes out of these people. The automotive auction house Pickles has described a recent spike in a supply of resess vehicles as significant thirteen percent up in the number of repossessed cars in the past
six months, eleven over the past three months. They attribute this to the rise of cost of living pressures and a falling of used car prices which have hindered the ability of vehicle owners to refinance their fast appreciating assets. Automotive arrearsed data show from the banking sector that Australians
are falling behind on their car payments. People who have not paid one for three months or ninety days is now twice as many as it was a year ago, according to the details that are coming out of Westpac and then in the West Australian thousands of people in Western Australia have moved back with their parents. Why cost of living. But this government's amazing, right, give us another three years. We're fantastic. We can be arrogant because the
teals will save us. We've got a teal in Western Australia. Feel free to make a change, send a message. Meantime, a number of people are cutting back on how much they're spending on a wedding. I don't think weddings are probably taken up too much of too many people's wedding this weekend on my wedding was perfect, but you get my point. Lots of people spend too much on this stuff. But it cost living means you it's pulling back. Even the ABC reporting on the number of people who are
making and mending their own clothes. Why because apparently the greatest government of all time ain't the greatest government of all time. But the people who are the guardians of the political galaxy, well, they of course believe the single problem here is no one in the government. It's Peter Dutton chief amongst them, of course, has lefty Laura Tingle there, who remember any attack on her is unhelpful. As she said to her or unhelpful to the ABC. Well, too bad,
We've got the tape. And you think this is a racist country, We are a racist campule.
Its face that we always have been, and is very depressing to give a license like that. I find profoundly depressing and a terrible prospect for the next election.
Now, who knows no doubt you will inevitably get another reward because people like me criticized her. Who cares right, But perhaps the next one will be a Goldwalkley because she will secretly be able to give evidence to the nonsense that she said again when trying to spread fear around Peter Dutton that apparently evil white people would turn on people who don't look like them the next time they're bidding for a house. Of course, utter garbage, but she said it anyway.
For a major politicality, that must be saying, as NICKI says, you know, everything that's going wrong in this country is because of migrants. And you know I had sudden flash of people turning up to try to rent a property or at an auction, and they look a bit different whatever you define different as that basically he has given them license to be abused.
Rubbish bs crap, but despite that experience, of course, she ain't for changing, she ain't for turning, and the ecosystem that props her up as one of the great daians of power on the left of Australian politics, well, she
just keeps on going. She sat down with another hardcore lefty who replaced a previous hardcore lefty on Radio National listened to by hardcore lefties, to yet again talk about Peter Dutton despite everything that I just showed you, data that I just showed you about how the country's going in the wrong direction. She sat down and she had a chat with the blog hosting the late night life
program on Radio National. Don't worry, most of the country doesn't listen to it either, and she sarcastically accused the opposition leader of plugging nuclear power that offers you a future unlike those terrible renewables that the Labour government is offering. The host, then healthy reminded Tingle that listeners, many young young'ins wouldn't have a clue about the nuclear disasters of Chernobyl.
So that's a problem, yeah, Chernobyl. That's the reason why Peter Dutton's the problem, because nuclear power, which is by the way, available in what's that Paris, and they're not canceling the Olympic Games. It's available in Los Angeles where the next Olympic Games. Again, Tingle went on accusing Dunton of using language that's similar to the un Republican presidential
nominee Donald Trump Prize. Of course, the media that is doing their part for the left wing cause, good weekend on the weekend where this was their puff pace and again little tickle on the tummy to the tills, because we've got to get back into that media cycle now, despite the fact that, of course they've had virtually no impact on Australian politics apart from yes, denying the Liberal Party and opportunity to be statistically a chance of what's
happening at the next election. Oh but you know, going into politics, that's taught me I have more courage than I thought. Oh the courage it takes to get everyone giving you the preferences and then all of the media not criticizing you, no matter how badly your performance ever happens to be, must be terrible. How old made giggling Stephen Miles, the Premier of Queensland. Now this one's been
on the back burner for a while. But you remember when, just after he announced the brand new police Commissioner he decided to go and tour the parts of queens And that are heavily affected by youth crime. Well, as we pointed out the time, there was a particularly offensive moment when not one but two private jets paid for by the taxpayer, landed in the same place for the same announcement, because apparently they couldn't all work out that they could
all fit on one jet. No, no, that wasn't allowable. We found out that, by the way, in the past couple of days about exactly how much this nonsense cost. One hundred and seventy thousand dollars is what the Queen's Land taxpayer was paying for not one but two private jets, one to take the Premier, one to take the police commissioner. They couldn't possibly fly on the same plane. When pushed on it last week, Steven Miles, well, of course he had an excuse for that, didn't he.
As I have explained to the Member for Broadwater, my itinerary was booked sometime earlier when it was clear that the Police Commissioner was to be appointed, just prior to my travel. I asked him to accompany me and he made his own travel arrangements.
Again, the wastefulness of government. It's no one's job to turn around and say, okay, there are six spots. Okay, Premier, we need one for you, Police commissioner, one for you, all right, there's four others on no note, it's Premiere plus everyone, and mate, can you just get yourself there? Why not go on the same plane. Again, the common sense that fails on things like that extends to bigger and more complicated public policy like actually dealing with you
crime Queensland. Come on, you got a chance. I have deep faith in you. But I was, of course, so to put disappointed last time. We'll see what happens when voting happens at the end of October. Plenty more between now and then when it comes to the queens and election. And yeah, I mentioned the Princess Leia bikini. Now, as we know, it's sort of super nerd time at the moment, with Dead Evil and Wolverine number one in the box
office all over the world, comic cons just come. A bloke paid one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars for the as worn Bikini when Princess Layer was captured by Jab of the Hut. Yes, I do understand the resemblance. But I've grown a bid since then. One hundred and seventy five thousand dollars. Okay, that's expensive cosplay. Now let's talk here about the latest when it comes to Trump and Harris. Now, she's raised a lot of money, sure,
huge amount of money, and it does show enthusiasm. Basically, I was looking at some data about this before. Remember about Biden. Democrats were going to vote for them, but they won't particularly enthusiastic about him. Well, now basically the same amount of people who are going to vote Democrat are enthusiastic about the Democrat. But thankfully, the latest numbers show us that the number of people wanting to vote for Trump is basically as high as it's ever been.
It's just the comparison the Democrats. It's now tighter, but the enthusiasm gap is still higher than where the Democrats are. But with this more than two hundred million American dollars which have been raised by the Harris campaign in a week, they're spending it on ads like this, and I've got to say I'm not entirely sure. This is an ad for somebody who's running for president, or it's like an
ad in a movie about someone running for president. Production values are fantastic, but almost too good.
In the election, we each face a question what kind of country do we want to live in? There are some people who think we should be a country of chaos, of fear, of hate, but us we choose something different.
We choose freedom, unless, of course, you don't want to wear your mask any want your kid to be able to go to school and not have to sit in a tent. Or of course, those people who currently don't have freedom because they're still in jail after Kamala Harris as prosecutors sent them to jail in California for crimes like drug possession, which ironic because of course marijuana is now legal in that state. But you know, minor details.
But for its part, the Trump campaign is finding its fate on how to respond now obviously the first week and all of the news and all the rest of it and all of the excitement, but still fundamentally in this race, according to all of the polls, that we have to this moment, all of the betting that we have to this moment. All of the swing state data to this moment is that Trump is still winning. He's winning by small margins in some areas, by the same
big margins in other areas. Currently in the electoral college, remember it needs two hundred and seventy votes to be the president. The current average is that he's over three hundred, which is basically the same margin that Biden had over Trump four years ago. So Trump is still winning. Harris is closer, but fundamentally more people agree with Trump on the economy and on immigration, and messages like this from the Trump campaign are seeking to drive it home.
I am a part of latter.
I'm finalser. You're considered the most liberally United States senator.
Well, actually, the non partisan gov Track has rated you as the most liberal senator.
You have any plans to visit the border. We are going to the border.
We've been to the border.
You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been to Europe.
It's actually wrong and backward to think that more police officers will create more safety.
We get rid of money now.
Convicted in prison like the Boston Marathon bomber on death row, people who are convicted of sexual ASSAULTA should be able to vote.
I think we should have that conversation.
And of course she can be remade sort of you know, a bumber an address and sort of you know, hip Hillary, and she might be able to shape shift. And she'll probably never sit down for an interview or do a press conference where anyone's going to turn around and say, I, actually, so what is your actual position on this, that and the other. But the fundamentals right now, towards the end of July, after a week of all the noise, all the money, all the change, Trump is still winning, will he?
We'll all find out together quick break back with more we need to talk about here on Paul Murray Live. Let's get into a great conversation. Been looking forward to this one all day. The wonderful Sam Crosby joining me in the man cave right now, and the wonderful Senator Matt Canavan as well. We love these chatel On Monday night, he's joining us, of course from a beautiful North Queensland. So lads, it's all it's all better now, like the government's fine poles will go back. There was no sacking
of anyone the Prime Minister. When asked why was Giles moved or clear Onneil because there was a reshuffle, was his answer. Sam, do you feel like you know there's been a complete revolution?
How many times have I been on this show? And how do you saying we need a reshuffle, We've got to have a reshuffle. And now we have a reshuffle, Sack, we now have a reshuffle. Can you say, why are we having a reshuffle? I'd just say normal people don't care, right, So of course I don't care. So your sense of political change, right, Like, I mean, if you're doing it under the cover of the Olympics, you kind of don't
want people to notice. Look, I think the immigration, as we've talked about many times on this show, immigration become this weeping sow for labor that they needed to quarter ze. They needed to do something to stop the bad news stories and move on. Tony Burke, I think we'll do that, genuinely, I think we'll do that. I'm sure Matt's got a different view, and I'm sure you've got a different view
about his handling of industrial relations within labor. He is seen as an absolute success on this You know, every.
One unions everything they want, but not just him.
Now, but where's Where's sure, where's where is it? Where are the employers saying that he was an abject failure? Don't disagree, you know, genuinely there was a very short lived scare campaign about something or another that then went nowhere as soon as they saw the detail of the bill. He dominates the House in a way that very few
other people can. My pick is you're going to see this immigration issue in the next six months, right around the time of the next election, completely fade from from the headlines.
Well, I mean, as we know, Matt, there was some data around that. Apparently the actual number of people that have been released in the end about five hundred. All of that will of course be backfilled to the previous two ministers. But the thing I understand message discipline, and I understand governments having a level of self confidence and never admitting mistake all the rest of it. But we're
living in fantasyland, aren't we. When if the reason these people had to be moved was because there's a reshuffle, why did the Attorney General keep in their position, why did the ndies minister get me? The whole point was they were underperforming and they had to get moved. Now, the Prime Minister always comes up with a little dance series of words to make it seem like, you know,
going backwards is going forwards. But if this was an area that was hurting, feel free to admit that you were getting it wrong.
Well, I think what people see out on the ground is that anthe Albanezi is applying different rules to his ministers, to politicians than would apply to them in the real world. In the real world, if someone in their job in the senior position presided over the kind of stuff up we saw last year where hundreds of more than one hundred criminals were released onto our streets around extra about thirty crimes were committed by those criminals after they were unncessarily released.
If that din'd happen in the real world, people would lose their jobs.
They would lose their jobs, and they know that they know they'd be held accountable the workplace. At the very minimum, they'd be demoted or miss out in bonuses. They know that they know going to work they're under that pressure. Are just basic everyday jobs in this country. Yet our politicians seem to be held to a totally different standard when incompetence actually leads to promotion, because that's what.
Clara Nil's got.
She has been promoted, after presiding over this monumental stuff up into a more scene, near and important portfolio, and that just aggers the Jesus out of people, because, as I say, they don't get this sort of free kicks that our politicians get. And you would expect our nation's prime minister to apply the same type of rules to his own ministries that would apply to all Australians working out there in everyday life.
And it really angers people.
And it's a very poor example that's been set by a prime minister that apparently there's nothing you can do in his ministry would cause you to face sanction for poor performance.
Now I'm looking at the topics on the board today. What are we going to do? Where are we going to talk about?
Right?
The Barnaby Joyce thing is such a beat up today, right, like a spectacular, over the top, intentional beat up. Right, But if I don't talk about it, see the talking about it. Clearly, I've talked about sort of the emotional rhetoric and increasingly violent rhetoric that was in and around American politics, but our politics is different. That said, we should talk about it for that very reason I'm not going to play you all of the stuff, despite the
fact that it's all there to be seen. Right, you saw what was said, which was a poor metaphor, which was about voting, not about shooting, not about killing, but about voting. He then apologized, Oh, but the Prime Minister was indignant and this was the story of the day and you know all the Karens on the internet going crazy. Right, So, Sam, is this the single greatest reason why Barnaby Jews should be scrubbed from the political record here? Because again, should
you said it? No, But when you apologize, and if you apologize quickly and it was a poor metaphor, then I'm not really going to set my hair on fire for four days about it.
Sure, I realized the forum that I'm in, and you know, I'm very reluctant to go Barnaby voice on poor Murray life.
But for heaven's sakes, this is a week after the former president of the United States was shot and you're using a gun metaphor at the best of times, but a protracted gun metaphor where we're talking about loading a magazine of Sure, sure, sure to use your paper on the ballot, but not hillpe hold on, hold on, he's talking about a minister who needs a protection because of the large number of verified threats that he and his family get.
But right, Peter didn't have these things, and I didn't see sort of a great mercy rule being played about a new tone, the new tone of hollow. So look, is it a shocker. Yes, But when you say sorry, no, I'm just start thinking so I completely disagree. So you say that's if I don't say that's it. I think he needs to be I think you should be sacked.
The question protracted, probably be a little bit attracted with him.
That that's it off from the shadow ministry. Peter must get rid of him pretty much. It isn't getting rid of also a metaphor for killing people.
Don't get rid of Clara O'Neil. You don't get rid of Clara O'Neil, actually stuffing enough.
If anyone in labor had said anything similarly like this about Peter Dutton at any stage, I would be sitting here saying, yeah, absolutely.
And that shows the difference.
That shows the difference shows a key difference here that you people in the left side of politics often seem to get more upset about what people say than what they do. I mean, Clara O'Neill presided over one of the biggest ministerial stuff ups in this nation's history and doesn't get touched. And then I don't see Sam calling for a sacking. But someone says something in the heat of the moment that is wrong and wasn't the right thing to say.
He's Baby's admitted that, and yes they should get sacked for saying something. It's it's saying something.
And I mean the other question of here to Sam and to the to the Prime Minister is where was the outrage then about Joe Biden, I mean a month ago saying that he wanted to put Trumps in the bulls eye.
Yeah, correct, I mean he should he and I.
I was not critical of Joe Biden for that because it was clearly a metaphor. Clearly a metaphor and again none wise one. But in no way is he responsible for what happened. It's it's let's just let's just tone this down right. The PM collage, your question was totally over the top.
To answer your question at the time, I didn't say anything because I thought it was, you know, part of the political cut.
And thrust if you like.
Subsequently to Donald Trump being shot, I absolutely did say that was too far and he shouldn't have said it.
Do you think stand before you think he should stand down over it?
Well, that's the question.
The question is not holland hold the questions be appropriate sanction for it if he if he's you're saying that he should lose his job.
If he said that, now I would say yes, but he's not. Well, well they sort of push him out the way anyway.
But in particularly double stand titles, I'm saying, I'm happy to apply an equal standard.
I'm not calling for.
Joe Biden to be sacked over it, and I'm not done. I don't think bunab we should lose his job over to either it's and also just a.
Poor form of words. Let's move on, he said sorry, Let's move on, Joe Biden.
And it is that thing where you know it is a contest. It is it is a contact sport verbally speaking right, and yes, sometimes people will will go too far in making a point. My issue is always right, how fast and how genuine is an apology? Right? Like I've got my issues in there around jd Vance and the cat lady stuff about you knowe, just if you're going to say sorry, say it nice, clean, quick and loud at the start. Right in said no, he's going to double down, right, So we'll see whether there's a
consequence to all of that. But I find nine times out of ten that it's okay to apologize. And I live on this sliding scale. We're not everything equals you know, not everything equals life in jail. Sometimes it's just an awkward day, a slightly embarrassing day, you know, you know, sort of take your medicine sort of stuff. But you know,
we'll see where it all lands anyway. QUI break'll talk about the State's and a whole lot more next with these boys, because I think they will thoroughly agree that Kamala Harris is amazing. Thanks very much for watching. Let's talk American politics now with two blokes who are just as invested in it. But we all know Australia's most awesome place ever. But these two big blokes have got
plenty to say about it, Matt Canavan and Sam Crosby. Matt, I'm going to start with you, okay, Kamala Harris, basically, whatever was holding back the money for Biden. It's surging, right, a couple hundred million dollars, But we're now sort of through a phase where we didn't know what was happening with the polls. There's enough polling to suggest that, of course she's replaced much of the deficit of Biden, but she hasn't overtaken Trump the in the swing states and
on the key issues. As a person who wants Trump up and over the top, how do you feel a week into this, Well, look, it's probably.
A bit early to say.
Obviously, these types of changes usually do involve a little bit of reinflating of enthusiasm, especially among a party's base, because it's they're new and they're different, and they can be package maps and gives it. It's like a new football season, right. You always think the new team your team's got is going to win it this year, and they're going to do it, and the Times will win. All those hopes go out the window. So I think the fundamental problem for the Democrats here is the Ross
belt states. That's where the selection comes down to. And you look at the electoral map, it all comes down to states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, although that's pretty much in the red column now. So the question is does a relatively left wing or the most left wing in some measures, a former senator from California, from San Francisco, be that as it may help the Democrats in those states.
I don't know, We'll She'll have to pull off an amazing level of flexibility that we're not even seeing in the gymnastics at the Olympics to straddle San Francisco to all the way to Cleveland.
Yeah, because I mean, it's this thing where I mean, part of your studies of recent time is again is a full Bright scholarship. I had to spend plenty of time in the United States. But of course it's like any country. It's many countries within countries, right, And as Matt says, you know, the top right hand corner does not automatically believe what the bottom right hand corner and all of that in between. Right. But at this election, we've got a scenario where a state like Nevada, huge
Union state, is kind of in the Trump column. Right. So there are a few things that are surprising to this point, regardless of whether it was Biden or Harris. And sure, I get it, there's the relief that you've got somebody to fight. You've got a boxer in the fight. But what's your sense of okay after the first week in the Yay.
Where Harris is Well, Look, the polls consistently said that seventy five percent of people just wanted someone new, fresh, younger, They didn't want to repeat of the last election. This is giving them that and so yep, you're seeing an increase in her numbers. So you know, let's see. I do think Matt's analysis, I think is absolutely spot on. This does come down to that Russ belt, those three states, you know, Nevada, Arizona. Yeah, they're under a big question mark,
but they're also small. You can you can either side can absolutely win without holding those correct you know, I think genuinely the way it will come down to is Pennsylvania. Whoever wins Philly will win, will win the presidency.
Well, which is why potentially the governor of Pennsylvania is being talked about as her vice president. So pick and that would help.
So that's Josh Spire so very vice presidential picks matter very little in the scheme of things, but.
You should be able to win your own stake. Yeah, exactly.
And that's that's one of the very few areas which you know why putting JD. Vance on was an interesting and I think it really will see if it was confident nor overconfident. Move Ohio is voting Republican, but it helps lock it in sure, But that is in the bag. The question is does a one year governor in Joshapiro carry a state with it. I mean, he's got numbers that are unheard of, the sixty five thirty five favorabilities, it's unheard of to have someone that popular. Let's see
if he does actually get it. Mark Kelly's the other one from Arizona Correck, you know. And I think it would be cool to have a former fighter pilot and former astronaut as a vice president.
That's cool.
Well I don't disagree, but let's get to the dvance of it all. I've got only ninety seconds. But Matt, I sit here and look, I get all of the upside of J. D. Vans and what he said in his past, in his back history, and he's very sort of you know, I get what is awesome about him.
But the crazy cat lady stuff, which yes, there's a context, and all the rest of her, does it like, is it real as a reason why people would think twice or the reality is if you've already said you for Trump by now, it doesn't matter who's with him.
Well, look, I mean I think it was a silly thing to say, and he should apologize for it.
You probably shouldn't.
You shouldn't you shouldn't have talked about people like that as other ways of make these points. Look, I think I agree with what Sam just said. I don't think vice presidents make that much matter of difference. I mean, look how they characterize Mike Pence back in twenty sixteen. They accused him of all sorts of things. It didn't make much difference, and I don't think it probably will either.
Yeah, I mean again, what is fascinating because again I think you're seeing the media trying to use all the tricks they can to sell the narrative of how amazing's Harris. Let's wait for the poll, which is what is the number one issue. If it's immigration, Trump wins. If it's abortion, Harris wins. If it's the economy, Trump wins. Anything else we'll find out, But right now i'd imagine those two that are good for Trump are still in newspavor and
still priorities. Thank you guys to appreciate it. We'll talk again this time next week and plenty more to talk about on the show tomorrow night. You can as always send me an email. Paul itsguydnews dot com dot you. Thank you to everyone in Newcastle. We had a spectacular time and stand by for the late debate right now.
