This is Paul Murray Live.
Today Australia and welcome to the magnificent Port Headland. Perth is about sixteen hundred k's that way. Broom is about six hundred k's up the road in Darwin is a day's drive from where we are. We are here for the Bush Summit. This has been a wonderful event that the Australian newspaper Sky News have been working on all over the past couple of weeks and it's gone all the way from Townsville to where we are tonight.
I'm really looking forward to everything that'll be here tomorrow.
You'll see it live during the day on air on Sky News. The wonderful Gina Reinhart will be here delivering a major speech.
Of course, the Pilbro is absolutely.
Central to the series of people that are employed here. The horizons, they are magical, the size of everything and if you've ever had like a toy train set, to see a train that goes kilometer after kilometer after kilometer.
After kilometer amazing.
Missus Reinhart will be here law and I look forward to the honor of introducing her as well. If you have not been to Western Australia, and if you have not been a little further than Perth, you've got to come here because the sunsets, the sunsets alone are spectacular to see the Indian Ocean, to see the sun say bye bye, and not to be held up by any sort of buildings or anything else.
It is gorgeous.
Right now, we are coming from the Headland Hotel and I tell you what you know. I'm not a drinker, but it is the like a one backdrop. If ever, I was thinking about taking up the habit In the meantime, there's plenty to get to. This is a normal show tonight. Ourtown comes from Perth on Sunday. Okay, so thank you so much for watching wherever you happen to be now tonight on the show the Bush. Some of that took place today on the East Coast. Well, it had one
hell of a hum dinger. You will have heard Andrew talk about this a bit earlier tonight, and that was the humdinger between Barnaby Joyce representing the people in regional Australia, who of course are the ones who have to have all of the renewable energy infrastructure, and Matt Keane, the bo from the cities, who of course believes they should have more windmills by the day. There's also something worth talking about that has come up in some of these
bush summits. But it's really important for regional Australia and it's the road top. Now, anyone who lives in these parts of the world, well, you know you've got great distances the trip to the shops or the trip to the doctor. But sadly, I'm going to tell you some numbers. It is absolutely frightening about how many people lose their
lives in on regional roads. So for God's sake, slow down, myself included, even when I go and go get stargazing later tonight, going as far as I possibly can, sigar in hand, and of course by this time tomorrow night, Kamala Harris will.
Have delivered a sort of an interview.
Remember she's got an emotional support animal, and it'll be with a CNN reporter who hates Trump. But first, can I start with something good, something fun, something cool, something different, something that I guarantee that'll end up paying on the BBC or it'll be the funny bit at the end
of an American newscast. It's like super Australian. You know how whenever you've been overseas or you've had family come back from overseas, they think that Australia is full of kangaroos and koalas and snakes and funnel webs, and they're everywhere, including in the suburbs. Well, that actually happened northern part
of Melbourne. Kangaroo's bouncing around in the backyard and somebody was smart enough not just to get the great steel shot which makes it look like it's an inflatable kangaroo, but no, it was a real one bouncing over the fence.
Have a look at this.
Just a bit of super Australia to start us off this Thursday night.
How good is that?
I mean, obviously that backyard's got a little bit of landscaping to do, but what a wonderful super Australian scene. Anyway, that'll go around the world and'll be good to see. Now, sadly, I have yet another update for you on the story we opened with last night, which is a disgrace. It's this baby that police are going to allege that somebody poured hot coffee onto the baby. They won't know till tomorrow. By the way just how permanent the scarring's going to be.
But they've got a new image that they have released now the legal reasons they have to be absolute that what I am showing you is somebody police would like to speak to, not somebody who is assumed to be a suspect. But that is a new photo that was taken again from a myriad of CCTV. The reason I'm talking about this two nights in a row is this is the biggest story that I want solved between now
and the next time that we're meet on Sunday. Put simply, the person responsible for this action, in my view, in my words, in my estimation, and I think you'd agree, that have to be close to Australia's most wanted, definitely Brisbane's most wanted. Police spoke about this again today. They are doing everything they can to find the person they believe responsible for that horrific crime.
My lightest update is that the baby, luckily, unfortunate only and happily is doing okay, although in a great deal of pain, but he's still suffering from the burns. I understand members of the community being concerned about this. I'm a payer of myself I'm a family man, I'd be concerned.
There's no guarantees in policing. What I can guarantee that I have a dedicate, dedicated team of detectors and specialist police currently working on this investigation is to hold this person to account and bring into justice.
Now.
Like everyone, my heart was just falling out of me when I saw the parents yesterday, and the parents talking about how their job was to be the protector of this little baby. Do not blame How could you possibly blame yourself? I'm I just want to reiterate that to friends, family, anyone who may well be anywhere near this family, strength
and love you of course, did absolutely nothing wrong. We're also finding out here that the mother has spoken out as well todaying that obviously she wants this man to be caught, and one of the quotes from her is it was out of nowhere. I don't even know who he is, why this happened. I just want this man caught and charged. He's on the loose. And again, one more thing from the police about the man hunt.
At this stage, we don't have a definite idea on that person, and I'll just clarify that we'd like to talk to that person in relation to his knowledge of what's actually happened on there. He is more of a person of interest in stage than anything.
Meantime, in Canberra, the boss of the Commonwealth Bank was talking about the people who he knows because they've got the data literally from your credit cards, your debit cards, your home loans, all the rest of it, about the people who he knows are suffering the most at the moment when it comes to cost of living number one issue in the country. He's got the data and Matt Common said this today about the group who is hardest hit right.
Now from a savings perspective. In the twenty five to thirty four year old age court its cohort, it's down set of eleven percent, which is basically double the rest of the cohort, even though do not have debt. You can see the impact of inflation and why it is critical to get inflation back into a normal range.
Now we know that people are doing it tough, but the idea that of course people at the start of their working life or in that age range it might be when you're starting to get married, think about getting married, have a family, but certainly starting to build.
A life it's always tough. It's the toughest because this is.
The time when you're making the big investments that you will pay off for the rest of your life. But to know that they've got extra bricks in the backpack, many of which in my view, are exacerbated by the decisions of the federal government, is an absolute and abject disgrace. But also with all of this, too, we learned a little more about the reality here of not just cost of living, but also the impacts when it comes to
the per capita recession. We know for the best part of what many many months that the country has really been going backwards. Those families, your families the ones most effective. And while Jim Chalmers might want to tap himself on the back, and I'm pleased to say my take on this last night seems to now be the prevailing view, which he.
Is, that it's not even a sugar hit.
It's literally hundreds of millions of dollars for them to, as I said, sort of wear a pair of high heels to pretend that they're taller. Remember, in the month zero point three, that's the only difference that was made, in major part because of those credits, which are put on energy, but as you know, it's only really twenty five dollars a month. No one actually notices it. It's all about trying to fiddle the numbers for when they eventually go to an election. But Dennis Shanahan wrote a
very interesting piece today. I'm going to talk about it tonight with our panel, which is about when the election is going to be. You know, this guy's plugged in his prediction in a couple of moments time. But of course, shops and that inflation, that, of course, the cost of everything has caused huge trouble now. As you know, when it comes to the shops, be it your local mega mall or your local strip mall, or anyone who's trying to rent commercial premises, that has gone through the roof.
The insurances have gone through the roof, the cost of employing people, it's gone.
Through the roof.
Power prices up and through the roof. But obviously the other issue is if people have not as much money to buy stuff, well, then we start to get into a world where, in particular, the retail sector is in trouble. And as they were reporting today that while inflation may be easing, asterisk the nation is facing a difficult Christmas. Now this of course will be not one, not two,
but the third difficult Christmas in a row. Hence why I don't fall for the guff and the bs out of the Prime Minister that things are getting better.
Reality is they've gotten either worse or they are staying.
At worse but releasing their retail outlook Deloitte Access Economics there, of course the people who always talk about the federal budget, so they're pretty well respected at least in the media circles. They say that the retail sector has been in recession for eighteen months. So if the retail sector has been for eighteen months, if for the best part of what five quarters the per capita recession, see how those things
start to line up. And while spending per person has fallen for the past two years, it is now two point five percent lower than June last year. So again this idea about either things getting worse or things are sticking at worse.
But as for Jim Chalmers, well.
What's the song that plays in his head about the economy?
Almost caught me dancing, Almost caught me dancing. But he can live in that fantasy land. Now we all know that social cohesion is this very sort of polite word for things being different, people being at each other's throats, people getting up in other people's faces about things that
we haven't had in our past. Now, of course, after what happened on October the seventh, remember within twenty four hours all of that was when people were turning up at the Sydney Opera house and they were saying where's the Jews, as if this was somehow better than other words that people believed were being said at the time. Now, remember this was not people who were all about the rights of a Palestinian state all the rest of it.
These were the people who reacted within a day, within a day of what had happened when it came to HMAS.
We know, of course, when it comes to our universities, that our universities have had many, many protests for a significant period of time and encampments that have been taking place there.
Well.
We also know that politically, there are politicians that are willing to stand in photos that they have now deleted off the Internet.
But remember this photo.
When school kids are holding up a poster next to a prominent Green senator saying that the essentially the best place was for the Jews to go into the bin. Now, of course, because we have to both sides this stuff, because it would be awfully offensive if we didn't. The Prime Minister, of course, likes to pretend that there's a problem with not just anti Semitism but also Islamophobia. Okay, But then the university sector has decided that they're going
to get involved as well. Now, these of course have been the hotbeds of misinformation in my view about how the world actually works, or certainly very slanted.
View of how the world works.
But obviously I'm far more radicalized student population is there. Well, university is now going to spend one million dollars. I'm not going to do the pinky but you get the whole thing about a doctor evil. But one million dollars is going to be spent by at least one university to try to.
Work out what's going on here.
Man Monash University is going to spend a million dollars researching the program tasks with investigating anti Semitism and Islamo Fabia, I use that voice because I can save you a million bucks. We all know what's going on here. We all know that there are people who are trying to bring the problems of other parts of the world and try to play them out on the free streets of Australia.
That is not acceptable. Now.
Again, anyone can come from anywhere, including from places like Gaza, as long as you come here and you understand that this is a different place, This is a free place, and this is a place where, of course you have to respect that in this country there could be somebody who came from Israel who may well be living next door to you, may well be in the same class
as you. But of course we have the left wing and the ultra left wing of Australian politics that is doing its best right now to try to ferment as.
Much carry on as possible.
But let's see how they're going to spend a million bucks of your money, because of course all of these are public institutions. Monash University and their vice chancellor has promised a million dollars for a two year research program to investigate students' experiences of anti Semitism and his lemon flow a million bucks to work out their experiences, to talk to people to find.
Out what's going on. We can see it on the news.
The university will receive rolling updates on the programs. The whole thing will go for two years, and for some reason they're going to go to Monash's Malaysia campus.
Seriously, there's nothing like a study.
To kick things further into the reeds, to pretend that there's something else to talk about at a different time.
A million bucks.
But of course we must have as many international students as possible because it's a wonderful export industry. Now, the Bush Summit is I'm really proud of this thing. I remember I've been to plenty of them over the years. This year's has taken a massive step up and I've got to say congratulations to every one of the ods. But also I want to say everyone in the news programs technical side of Sky News has brought such a
polish to all of this. When you've got wonderful presenters like Ash Gillen will be here tomorrow, Tom Connell and lots of other people that brought a great sense of flash to it and also a great knowledge of the issues. But the Bush Salmon, which of course is being presented by Rossy Boots, Gina Reinhart again will be here tomorrow. There was this fascinating conversation back and forth between Matt Keane and Barnaby Joyce. I'll get to that in a second.
But yes, we can also talk about mining and agriculture, but we do have to really have a chat about something that is killing hundreds of people in regional Australia. It's not Forever chemicals, it's not mining accidents.
It's not your name.
It it's people dying in car crashes. Now, amazing stats today that we're all linked to the Bushmit being in Sydney. I got to show you this year are staggering. Two thirds, two thirds of deaths that are happening on Australia's roads are happening in the bush. Of the twelve hundred and sixty two people who died on Australian roads last year, and twenty one died in regional areas, four hundred and forty one in the cities. Every in each of all of these is of course an absolute tragedy. You said
whiles had the biggest proportion. The fatalities were two hundred and thirty two in the regions compared to about half one hundred and thirteen in the cities. My simple message is this, slow down now there's plenty of times that I've driven like a moron. There's plenty of times that I've done that, probably this year, but we have to slow down when we were flying from Perth today. You know how when you listen to a podcast, they can do those ads where they drop them in to represent
something that's in the location you're in. Right, So I heard this ad today and it was a bloke who was crying, and it was a real bloke who was crying because his mate had died in a.
Car accident and they had planned to have.
This life together but instead he ended up going to his mate's funeral, not his mate's wedding. I know you notice slow down, but I also know that you know the bits where you.
Think you can give it a bit of a squirt.
Don't, no matter how tempting it may be, no matter how great the broom broom in the car is, Please don't. We'll all forget from time to time. But tonight my chance to say and hopefully do, which is to pull our heads in when it comes.
To that stuff.
Also in Queensland there's been a coronial inquest which has been going for a little while into the terrorism event that took place there when multiple police officers.
And a good Samaritan were killed.
Now, the footage that I'm about to show you it is distressing, but this is the insights we've been getting. This has been This is real life footage of a police officer running from a person who's shooting at them, and then getting into the car, and then the shots start firing while they're in the car.
This is frightening, It is distressing.
So I always want to make sure that if you want to look away, you've got about thirty seconds to do so. But that footage has been unbelievable. Well, many people who of course are represented by their families, or should I say the families that are representing those that are no longer with us, They've had.
Plenty to say.
They've had plenty to say about why they were sent, how they were sent there, what protections they didn't didn't have when they were there. But there's also been some serious concern that some of the final words of their family members, well, they didn't know all of this until they were watching this proceeding along with the rest of us. So I wanted to give them the respect because this show is pro cop I am pro cop. These people go towards other people's worst day of their lives, and they.
Do it every single day in twelve hour shifts.
So I wanted to show respect to the fallen officers, but also to their families to air their complaint that the final words of their kids were not known until it was time to play them in for one of a better term a court room, rather than them to be told while they were't prepared in their funerals.
Rather the tape.
It also highlighted serious operational failings that we believe could have prevented this tragedy. In his evidence, Detective Senior Sergeant Duncan Gorrie concerned our long held belief that Nathaniel Train was not a missing person, rather someone who'd lost touch with his family. So our children were executed for what a loss of contact.
Now it feels like I've been on a pat malone talking about the failures of Jackie Lamby this week, but they have been numerous. Now You've seen plenty of people talk about the news story of what has happened this week.
But remember Jackie Lamby.
Is beloved by the media because when push comes to sharp she's generally sent or left she'll certainly whack conservatives a lot harder than she'll whack what seems to be her fellow travelers when it comes to things like the Labor Party. But of course, her absolute power, and it's a genius power, is that she has sort of complainer in chief. The one thing that Jackie Lamby hates for her brand of politics is to be actually involved in the decision making of a country or a state, because
then you become responsible for it. You see, The entire political model for her is well, aren't they all terrible? Everything should change. She picks the waves to be able to blow up on and it works for her. But as we've seen this week, the three people who made their way into the Tasmanian Parliament essentially off the back of the brand that is Jackie Lamby, but by their own admission, no policies. It just was the brand of
Jackie Lamby. Well, two of those three are apparently too close to the government, so they got the biscuit ones left over. The government is now being propped up by the existing Lamby person plus the two former Lambies. But remember Jackie Lamby decided the way she was interacting with the Tasmanian government was that the basic deal to keep them in power would have to renew itself every twelve months.
She was already putting a series of land mines in a deal, hoping that it would blow up and then we'd be off to an election, and because she'd be complaining, not defending, then of course she would be able to get even more seats.
But we learned today.
So the lady who I so effectually referred to as the crazy cat lady from Tasmania. But I'll do it anyway, which is she was on the OBAC today and said, that's it no more when it comes to state politics.
What I've done is try to give ordinary Tasmanians to go in politics. Leone, to be honest with you, that is obviously not worked for whatever reason I have tried. But what I will say, do those ordinary Tasmanians that want to shott in politics? Now, obviously I'm not big enough to make that happen, for whatever reasons, whether that's because we're just not big enough. We don't have that upper echelon where people can get more helpful or whatever
they want. But you know, those days have given me ordinary Tasmanians ago are over.
So you're saying the state political experiment for you, he's over arm It certainly is.
What I mean, what garbage a thousand words when ten will do again. I understand the role that Jackie Lambi plays and why certain people like Jackie I get it all right, we don't get to pick up perfect candidates.
If so, we'd all run for offers.
But the reality he's here, this guff and garbage and bs about I just was trying to give ordinary Tasmanians to go.
No, you weren't. You were trying to get a foothold in.
The northern part of Tasmania, which you largely got with state MPs, to be able to have a further foothold in everything that happens in Tasmanian politics. You weren't doing this just randomly to give some people a go. And remember you yourself zero duck egg. Nothing was what your candidates were running on. They were running on mini means of you.
So if they're failed, you failed in ordinary Australians.
Please Anyway, she's apparently going to be running lot of people at the national level because surprise, surprise, despite the fact that she's learned her lesson in Tasmania. She'll trying to repeat it here in Western Australia. Now there's a slightly confusing picture about who is leading right now.
Is Trump is at Harris?
Now, remember after the Democratic National Convention, Harris was supposed to be up, way up, sugar high, you know, the best ever, you know.
All the rest of it.
But the reality is the empty pants suit is the empty pants suit. She's not Obama in a pantsuit, because if you actually look at the numbers, she is lower in the polls than where Hillary was in sixteen when she lost, and lower than where Biden was when he won and only won by.
Forty thousand votes.
That said, if everything is super tight right now, you prefer to have one point your way rather than one point the other way. And right now Fox News poll, Harris is winning in Arizona. If that's the case, Trump gone finished. If she wins in Georgia, Trump gone finish. If she wins in Nevada, Trump gone finish. Now again, I'll show you the data here, then we'll have our opinions on the top of it. But I'm not going to hide bad news from those who consider that to
be bad news. North Carolina Trump just It won't matter though, because if Trump is losing Nevada, Georgia, Arizona is in a world of trouble.
He has to win Georgia, he has to win Arizona.
He can survive without Nevada, but he has to win Pennsylvania. But current polls show that that is again a fifty to fifty race.
So that's the poles.
But then there's the betting markets. Now you can see these as being predicted because it's people literally risking their own money. But right now Trump has the edge. The chances are becoming the next president of the United States.
It's raiser thin.
It's fifty percent chance versus forty nine percent chance. But why I bring this up as the slightly confusing picture is I checked this literally an hour ago. Trump is up in Pennsylvania, Trump is up in Nevada. Trump is also up in Arizona. If that happens, he is the
next president of the United States. In the meantime, of course, we get ready for Kamala Harris doing her first interview, where she will only take half of the questions because her emotional support Governor, her vice presidential candidate, will be sitting next to her.
At the time, and.
The person asking the questions is a person who we saw some.
Tape today is clearly so pro Trump. Roll the tape. Here on Dana Bash, I.
Just want to do a little bit of record correcting. No, there's not record crime right now. Number one, Harris was put in charge, as you said earlier, of combating the roots of immigration.
She was not and is not.
The borders are. There's a lot for President Biden to tout. Americans don't seem to be giving him the credit. The former president falsely claimed that the vice president quote happened to turn black for political reasons.
So if like me, you're a mega nerd and you're going to watch these things live, it'll be eleven.
O'clock tomorrow East Coast time.
Obviously highlights and immediate reporting its GOINGEWS dot com dot AU quick break.
Back with more Head of the.
Bush Summit import headed edlind in Western Australia, looking forward to it. Two of the mates, two of them are favorites. Pick which one agrees or disagrees before we even start.
But we'll get into it in a moment's time.
Here on Paul Murray Love, Welcome back to port Headland, where the busham is going to be here tomorrow to people that are very significant in what's happening tomorrow. And the whole effort thus far is none of than Chris James, the editor of the Courier mar but also the chief editorial person when it comes to this world. Basically a lot of the stories about the Bushammit, they've come through your desk.
Sounds like a great intro, Paul, Look, we have absolutely okay.
Is it a collective thing? No, We've loved if you are.
I think the great thing about this has been that every editor and every newspaper across the country has spent the past week in regional Australia. We started in Townsville last week, beautiful towns with the national launch with the Curry Mail in the towns of Bulletin, went to Lonceston, Bendigo, we went to McLaren Vale.
That was a good gig because I didn't go to that one Orange and then here tomorrow and what a great spot.
I've never been to Porthad And when I sat out before as the sun was setting over the ocean, and you know, giving some attention to regional Australia is what this is all about yeah, good man, actually give them, will host it all tomorrow, you'll see it on telling.
Them most of McLaren Vale's I actually.
Which was absolutely something sitting at a vineyard and now we're here in the red dirt.
Thank you for bringing your touch of class to this little program.
Appreciating before that I've made it flash, but.
Do you know you bring a bit of sparkle to it.
You know, I reckon.
My parents and farmers down south of w A.
So we're just coming off back of travel season out of the small town of jnny Broosh. Everyone's stinging trauffles laste weeks.
They wouldn't call me flash.
Very good.
All right, now, let's talk about some of the issues that are around right now. I'm a sh a Han interesting piece in the Australian where he's trying to frame when there may well be an election. Now again it's Prime Minister will decide five minutes to midnight. He may well think, if rates are going to go up next year,
let's go now. But as your sense of this is your sense that the window closes because of things like the Queensland election, because of footy seas and all the rest of it, or if the economic numbers get worse next year, you kind of want to jump in before they get worse.
I haven't spoken to a single politician who thinks we're going to an election this year.
It's just time is running out.
So yeah, I think we're looking at next year and looking at where the inflation interest rate situation sits by then. Yeah, I think it can be next year. There's a few dates that are being thrown around. March eight is the wa state election.
Of course, yes, so it won't be.
On March the eighth, But social one MP recently actually who suggested that depends how summer goes. Do we have a lot of bad bush fards really have blackouts? How close do you want to go to an election if there's another let's cross.
Out things and hope this isn't the case. If there's another bad summer, how do we come off the back of that?
Well, and remember the past two summers were supposedly going to deliver something similar to what had happened in twenty to twenty one.
Thankfully it didn't because there's a lot more rain around. Apparently, the same.
Bridition exists for the next summer as we have been for the past couple, so I hope it's not as bad as it seems.
But Chris, again your sense about it.
I mean, obviously main game is Bush Summer now and then you're into the Queensland election. Do you think that Queenslanders would be interested in going twice in a year to a poling booth.
I think that's the critical point.
You talk about Queensland and October twenty sixth WA March eight. I would if I was in Anthony Albanezi in the Labor Party, I would want to give the voters in Queensland and Western Australia every opportunity to get as angry as they like in the polling booth against Labor. Get off that, just get that out of this them and then and then go to the polls. I mean, I think there was a bit of a sense that maybe March, but the WA thing gets in the way of that.
So yeah, I'd be surprised if if we see a federal election being called in summer.
I think it'll be that sort of you know, after get w a out of the way and then off we go.
My little tip though for all of these things is watch them.
Watch both Dutton and Alban EZI pretend they're not having summer holidays, just they're.
Going to be around for the just in case, because they're just ready.
If remember, of course the whole tax cut stuff had happened in the lead up to Australia Day as opposed to politics is all back on Australia Day.
So wait, watching sea.
But I don't think we'll see a prime minister in Hawaii this summer. I reckon we can lock that one.
We're seeing them.
I'm seeing them in Perth like they are there almost weekly. We've either got Dutton, Alban easy, they're there like every week.
Same in region, same in Queensland and regional queens Yeah.
So let's let's talk about the w A factor they because I mean there are four seats that Labor was able to get. Whether that was because of the just the anti government of the last time, certainly GST deals borders all of that garbage statefully behind us, but still working out where the electoral gravity is about whether everyone holds a line or whether oh well that one's gone, that one's gone.
But then there's the other factor too, which is the teal.
There is a teal that replaced Julie Bishop or in Julie Bishop's seat in and around.
Codder's Low, Lovely part of the world, Lovely pub.
There again, your sense about WA federal politics right now because the data that we see, and this is where I'm going to put it aside and go to the lived experience, is that laters come.
Off a bit, but it's not ready to make the full reverse. What's your sense?
Yeah, I think you're pretty spot on there. The McGowan star factor has gone. I don't think voteras in Western Australia are as angry at labor as perhaps we're going to see in Queensland, but definitely without the star power with Mirke McGowan that's going to make a huge difference.
And because there were so many labor games, I think we will see that swing back a bit to the liberal So you mentioned those seats has like Peers, Swan, Tangy that labor picked up and the curtain which went to the TiAl is also the creation of a new seat called bull Winkle which comes into play.
That's the greatest That is the I won't ask you what the historical references, but for the older blokes, we just think that's it's a former I think it's.
World War two. I haven't got that right.
Vivian before alighting. To be respectful, please don't laugh at that.
No, it's very serious. I think it's a great name.
But yeah, so there's a new seat, and because that new seat, so many boundaries have shifted as well that I think it's like seventy something potus.
In Wa are going to be gutting in new seats of course time around.
So that's so whether it became a little more blue, a little more red, a little teal, so feeling like.
They can pick up a couple, I'll tell you.
The thing that I think about is what what we're probably heading to here based on the losses in Wa, the fact that Labor look they're looking at Brisbane as the elector of Brisbane, maybe the elect a Lighthart in Kansas.
The only two possible ws for the lanes.
Are coming for them in Lily correct, And so probably what you're going to see if the Liberals can't pick up those heel seats in Sydney and Melbourne is a hung parliament.
Now this is a real problem for Australia.
Because whichever side you're on, hung parliaments don't tend to be good for Australia.
We'll see, and ironically right, so if Newspole's correct, we're talking about the best part of six seven, which a loss, which then takes a government that's on what's seventy eight down to seventy one, maybe up to seventy two. If it's seventy three, well then they can pull together enough people on the cross bench before we start getting into the crazy. But if it's any lower than that, which on any one day it may well be, then we start going into the crazy, which is the green stuff.
Before again, I get back to some regional stuff tomorrow the interview with Kamala Harris on CNN.
She of course has many questions to to answer.
Let's go right back to so when did you notice Joe Biden was starting to warbble right? Did you say anything? Did you not say anything? Through to We're happy with the process of how you became the candidate, but more importantly, you believe this now you believe that, As Meghan Kelly says, the only question worth asking is what was the moment you change your mind and why?
But she, of course is not great on.
Her feet in those scenarios excellent on a teleprompter, but not great on her feet. But she's got the emotional support governor next to her. So has she designed a scenario here where there's so many things to ask her, but with two people there's only half the time as somebody who would walk in and do an interview like that. Has she sort of snooked the power of the interview by diluting the number of people that take the question.
Oh, she has a very smart team of meter advices around it, clearly, and this is obviously the advice that they've given that it's wise to front up with the two of them. I can't wait to see that interview. I mean, I think she does struggle sometimes. Look at the Democratic National Convention last week. Her speech compared to you know, following people like Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton, the Obamas, I mean, it was pretty huge.
She used to fill and she just didn't compare they.
Just as a concert, she was the encore, and even then the second song of the encore, where You've got a rod I'm done.
Yes, I mean, obviously the crowd loved her because it's a Democratic National Convention, but she isn't as good as her prosist.
So Chris again, what if anything, are you looking for this as somebody you know who's you know, like all of us, they amate are obsessive of American politics or the journal.
What are you looking at it tomorrow? What are you hoping out of it?
I'm just hoping she answered some questions. I think this is a really interesting difference between the US system and the Australian system. US politicians seem to be able to get away with never actually doing press conferences, never actually doing interviews other than you know, the occasional splattering, whereas you think our politicians they have to front up every other day part of the system.
And so hopefully it's a.
Good opportunity to get some get some questions actually answered, and hopefully some real questions.
And also that thing where I mean, as we saw the last election didn't matter in terms of the result, but the idea that it was like all right, pop quiz time, what's the unemployment rate? How much is this? What is it like?
I try some milk.
I'm not into the price of milk. Bread thing. Obviously they live in it, but they don't need to know that, right.
It happens in every campaign.
Correct but literally correct, but if your position is building a wall is racist, now you want to build a wall, I'm looking forward to. That's some gymnastics, right, that's on top of the gymnastics of a whole bunch of policies that she was into that now she's going to flip the other way. So we'll watch and see together. You,
of course, who always do your homework. Cash in tomorrow and the Bush Summit, what's the story of WA's regional communities that you're looking forward to showcasing, or maybe people just need to be reminded of because the assumption is mining, mining, money, money, mining, and that's it.
Well, my mining is a big part of it, obviously and really important to the economy. And we've got a big critical mineral story happening here in Wa at the moment, so that is definitely.
A huge part of it. But the ag side's really important as well.
I would expect that some of the labor politicians turning up tomorrow will get some pretty tough questions about live sheep exports. We've seen the kipt the Sheep campaign really gathering some steam. They've got five hundred grand in a war chest ready to go to roll out ahead of the election to target.
Some of the seats being impacted. And I live in Perth.
I'm seeing keep the Sheep bumper stickers all over town. There is a bit of there's a lot of disquiet about that policy. I interviewed the Foreign Minister, Penny Wong at the mccaren vale push Somemit yesterday.
We're talking a lot about wine and lobster and China.
Tariffs on and you know, I said to you, it's one thing when you're an other government's shuting down your business, but in this situation, the devastation that these farmers are feeling because it's their own government shutting it down, that's really tough to handle. And she said, look, we've taken this policy to the last two elections. If you talk to the farmers, they tell you that the conditions on those ships have changed.
A heap over that time.
Period and the decisions.
Look again, it's I think it's a bunch of the issue plays very differently on the East Coast than it does on the West Coast. But as soon as you start taking the tastes of one place and applying it to the other and then assume that they're going to completely be cool with it because you need to win. New Town doesn't work. That's why I'm fascinated about the weather.
I mean right now, what it's out to twenty eight, whether they find another way, another way, but literally, I mean the Teal was for it and then the Teal ended up flipping up to now be against it.
And also the WA Labor government is against this policy as well.
So there is a real yeah, policy division between the state labor government and federal.
Government on this issue.
And what are you looking forward to tomorrow?
Look on just looking forward, like every Bush Summit, to the fact that we give them attention to the ten million Australians who do not live in the big capital cities. And that's what Bush Summit it's all about. It's about getting the powerful to turn up. Do you know there's if you can actually go through the list of the politicians and the powerful CEOs who have turned up to the Bush Summit over the past six events, it's a guest list that is far bigger, far better than the AFL Grand Final.
They're all they all turn up and they all listen, and that's what it's all about.
So what what always surprises me is how the issues are quite different as you move around. Even in Townsville. I had some of the outback mayors saying, this isn't the Bush, this is regional.
You know what about the bush Yeowers Correy by the way, and so you got towns All to Charterstowers samonize, everything's it's all very different.
But the point of Bush Summit is just put the spotlight on local issues and to get the powerful up on that stage behind us to answer those questions.
And I think the theme we've seen across the week as well is that there is a huge disc next yes when it comes to services, infrastructure, etc. But also attitudes between city folk and people in the regions. And one lady coming to me at the end of the summer in McLaren vale es stay and say, nobody gets us farmers anymore. You know, it used to be the case that everybody knew a farmer. He had an uncle's cousin, brother, somebody you knew a farmer. But she said, these days
people don't know farmers. They don't come to farms. She said, I hear about kids going off on these fabulous overseas holidays with their high school, but they've never.
Seen on a farm and seen where the meat comes from.
So yeah, it's that sort of thing, that theme that a lot of people in the bush feel really would misunderstood.
But again, perfect example about what I was saying about, that sort of divide between where a decision is made, why a decision is made, and some of the consequences of it. The Barnaby Joyce Matt Keen stuff today roll the tape of pretty much the guy representing the place going okay.
Enough, too much right, and the guy who says not enough. Here's more.
That's the CSIO ro of our most trusted institutions, and a EMO the engineers who run our energy system.
So we either believe the experts or we don't. And I'm for the experts. I've grown up and with this the Wizard of Oz.
I honestly, I'll tell you where the truth lies, ladies and gentlemen. When you get that little thing in the mail with a box in it called the power bill, there lies the truth. Now, I'm going to pose one question to you. If you get that an email and we the here they're quoting all this fantasia of what might happen in the future, has that power will have been going up or down, Chris, I know.
You know in Queenctin there's lots of projects that we've read about that are on their way. There seems to be these incredible collisions. There might be a single landowner who says, my land's big enough that you can do what you want over there, but then there's a landowner next to it who says, no way. Then there's the projects which are closer to small towns, of which they say again, one of the reasons I live here is because I don't want to have a huge amount of
development in and around. But of course for us to get where the people in the city have decided we need to go, it needs to be built, and it needs to be built exclusively in regional areas because you know, when it comes to renewable energy, saying a place I do so well, I don't see the teal suggesting north and south head after you give up one of your doggy parks, as opposed to just shoving it all down
Dubbo's throat. But what do you think about the rollout of renewables as again this example of decision maker versus the people who get rolled over.
The last bush. Someone in Queensland was in rock Campton. We turned up and there were protests outside. It turned out they were local property holders who were concerned about the proliferation of wind farms on their properties. But more specifically, they were concerned about the green tape that appears to not exist when it's a wind farm, yes, and the
green tape that does exist when it's something else. And so I think it is this real disconnect between politicians in the city trying to in Labour's case, cozy up with the Greens, concerned about those inner city seats, and the people actually.
Out there who are being impacted.
It really took me by surprise when we turned up and saw that, and we've been covering that a lot in this year. I think it's a it's a real flashpoint. You can see a little bit of that coming through in that great clip. I hope there's a bit of that BIFO like like there was an may be able to bring nice out of people.
Well enjoy tomorrow, looking forward to seeing it.
Of course you see it live on the Telly Highlights of Scotty in Stockhram that I read it in all of the papers around the country. Guys, Thank you very much, love you to see you, and because of course it's two hours earlier here, much more time to hang out with them after the show.
We shall do so in a moment or two.
Stime quick break back with more from Port Headler here on Port Murray Life. Thanks for watching wherever you happen to be. Two blokes have got plenty to say about this Bush summit again. You'll see it on the Telly in and around one o'clock tomorrow on the East Coast eleven o'clock here on the West Coast, and it highlights its sky news dot com dot au.
Tony C.
Brook was of course with the Pastoralists and Grace's Association always want to get it correct, and Paul Garvey with the Australian newspaper.
Lads love to see you.
We were just talking about the issues when it came to the divide between decisions made in Canberra or Sydney or Melbourne and the stuff that ends up having to play out not just in regional Australia but in this case other side of the country.
Perfect example is the live export stuff that's going on right now.
Do you think you can change their mind on this one? Tony I don't. I think they've made up their mind. I don't think we had a chance from day one. They've made up their mind. All the work we did was a complete waste of time. This is what they were going to do, They've done it. The only option we have now is to make certain they're not in government after the next election. Right, That's the only option we've got now, and we're working on that.
So Ash was saying before, I mean literally, you go around, even in Perth, plenty of stickers, plenty of activism that's around. Would labor have been lay but now starting to see the fruits of your effort. Do you think that in their internals they're starting to see that the talk is now turning into something to worry about.
I think they're going to be very, very worried. We know the seats, we know where the weak spots are. There's going to be a huge protest in Canberra on the tenth, a lot of farmers West Australia going over there, a lot of sports mo over East.
We are going to rock the about good stuff, good stuff, Paul, what have you?
What's been most intriguing to you about in the lead up to this particular summit, the sorts of big ideas that people like to serve up that will change reach.
Yeah.
Sure, well, I mean, one thing that comes to mind with this conference that sort of stands out for me is that a lot of the policy issues that are ideological or theoretical for city voters are actually real here.
Right.
You know, there's people out here who actually will lose their job if we decide to shut down industries, if we decide to impose new restrictions on a missions for example. Right, this is where the rubber hits the road, so to speak.
So what's great about being out.
Here is just actually getting to see and feel and experience that and actually hear from people who are directly affected by what is being done in camera. I mean, on Tony's point though, of the campaign, I do cast my mind back to writing about the mining tax debate which brought down the last labor government, the.
Last love of export nonsense, when they just turned it off overnight because they did a lot what they saw on the TV the night before.
But what we saw with the mining tax debate, I come with the exact figure, but it was in the tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars industry spent pushing back on that, you're talking about five hundred grand that's been raised by the sheep farmers so far. So we're still a long way from matching that level of impact at this point, but certainly that But.
Even unlike TV, that's right, Like if you've got people, I mean, look, let's be honest.
The Teals to some degree have shown this.
Right, if you've got a certain amount of people that have fired up enough about something and they're focused in a certain area. Now, yes they had some money event as well. But if if you've got enough people to knock on a door, enough people to tell a friend, enough people to shake a tree, well then you can get a result. So that's what as opposed to just blanketing with advertising and radio and telling.
And all the rest of it. So you've got that look at your plan. We can't reach the whole electric all over Australia. We can't do that.
We know where the seats are, the marginal seats, we know where they are. That's where the money is going to be spent. I said tomorrow. What when he was the minister, He's now moved on, having left the cartage behind him. I said, if you are going to do me harm and the people I represent harm, you leave us with no other option than to.
Do you harm. And that is what we're going to do. You're going to get a standing over to morrow. There's no question about it. Now that we've seen ideas about everything from you know, rebate's.
Taxation, all the rest of it that some people are starting to discuss, do you see those as.
A way of helping regional Australia.
Look, it's always I find it's always tricky when you start having government's medal in these sorts of things, right, I mean at a state level here we're just seeing what's happening in the building industry. Right, we're still trying to unwind the damage it was done from a state government throwing bankers of money at trying to stimulate the industry along. So's there's real issues fundamentally in going down
that path in any sort of sector. The unintended consequences that stem from government seems to be pretty reliable that it always always goes pair shaped in some shape.
Or for generally, when they're selling you something that you know is bad, it is bad and it's only going to get worse lads.
I appreciate it. Thank you.
We'll read your stuff for the paper. Look forward to you tomorrow. It's going to be fun, all right. That's our Shaally from Port Headland. Thank you to everyone here at the Headland Hotel and of course join us Sunday night Outtown, which is going to be from Juna Loup in Perth. If you would like to send me an email at any time over the weekend, you know what to do. Port skyews dot com dot Au the Kamala
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