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an election year. That's when Sky newses at its best, and that's when we have laser like focused on everything we want to achieve. I say tonight it's a good show, because how's this Meghan Kelly's on the show tonight. Normally later in the week she's got to go to Washington, blah blah blah. You don't care, but you get to see her on TV tonight. Fight up and in.
Four k this woman has decided to manufacture tears to try to work herself up, you know, as an actress mate before a scene that could potentially be say oscar worthy, and try her best to turn on the water works.
She's fantastic. You will see her in full flight ladder tonight. Oh but we're not done. The Great Nigel Farras joins us live from London. A brand new opinion poll has dropped in the past couple of hours that shows that the Reform Party, if there was an election held, would win more seats than the Conservatives and even Labor. Could he go from half a dozen seats in the Parliament all the way to the Prime Minister. We'll talk. It's
all going his way. As I say, we're not mucking around, and a big part of that is everything we've got to deal with. It's in the news today, including a lot of stuff that I know you have not heard or you're probably here in a couple of days time, but you're going to hear it first right now. So Prime Minister election year, billions of dollars in promises, ones that he knows he can't afford, but he doesn't care.
The Prime Minister is going from door to door telling people how much money he's got for this and how much money's got for that. But we don't forget the federal budget is in deficit between now and the next forty four zero years. And while this bloke wants to pretend everything is awesome, everything's okay, we've turned the corner. That's all old hands. We're through the worst of it, like we've flattened the COVID curve or somehow we're repelled
the invading forces of World War II. Please, the reality of Albo's Australia is that today, as hundreds of thousands of kids went back to school Prince of bleed back to public schools in Queensland, there are many more parents that are having serious financial trouble. Now. I know this is not as exciting as telling you, oh, here's the load oft starter about climate change. It's not as much fun as oh look what Lydia Thorpe did today. But this is a statement of the country and where it
is under this bloke difficult sacrifice. Parents are making hard choices to pay for kids education. According to analysis which is done by a group called Good three sixty Australia, nearly two in five parents so they are more concerned with how's this, more concerned with affording school essentials than in previous years. Oh but we've turn the corner. What about the two little too? Late tax cuts. Oh, haven't we saved everyone two hundred and seventy five dollars in
their power burs Oh, that's right, no topic. The concerns of costs include things like digital tools. You see, way back when it was Kevin Rudy was handing out the laptops. Now it's you who's paying for them. Making sure that your kid has the best possible technology to keep up with the latest version of the software that everyone else has in the classroom. Otherwise your kid starts to fall back. Meantime, you might be paying through the nose for more internet
than you actually need. And it's not so you can stream telling. It's so that the kids can keep up with the work that they are doing. If you're a grandparent you're taking care, you too may be paying way too much for internet that you don't need. Forty three percent of families refer to the digital costs of education as a quote major burden. The person who founded the charity that did this work is somebody I want to
highlight for you tonight. Alison Covington says, as the cost of living crisis continues, our research shows that parents are making difficult sacrifices to set poor children's learning. This is Ourbo's Australia. Everyone feel good should he get another three years. Nobody should be forced to choose between essentials for their child's education and basic family necessities such as food and clothing. What was his promise three years ago? What is the
central promise that you count? It has been broken every day a labor government will lower the cost of living.
They didn't you name it. It's higher from the cost of the school uniform, to the school shoes, to the computers that they're using, to the internet that you have to pay for, for the insurance on the car where you drop them off, or the cost of the fuel that goes into the bus that picks them up, not to mention all of the other things to do in life, like paying off the house with all there's interest rate rises. Nothing to see here, it's all better, I know, that's right.
It's all worse. The central promise is a lie and has been broken. It is the central reason why no matter what they pull between now an election day, you've got to put the size nine on and be it the clerks, the hushpuppies, or if you're able to get around in a pair of dock Martins, or you can wear some rossy boots, belt them as hard as you possibly can when you get the chance. Green's last labor,
second last. Now, I say all of this because there is some early signs that the inflation number, which is about to be released in the next couple of days, which will feed into the decision making of the Reserve Bank, is going to be where we have long needed it to be, between the two and three percent margin. But remember, it's not just a one off sugar hit. But the patients of the federal political gallery do not remember last month, last year, the year before, the year before, or all
the other resets, all the other changes. They're going to lock in that when inflation lands at the number that they know the Reserve Bank is looking for, no matter how artificially it has arrived at because of the b billions of dollars that are being spent to artificially hide the increases of power prices. When the rates come out tomorrow, it seems like the Treasurer has got a preview and he has already started doing the victory dance.
Now, when we came to office, inflation had a six in front of it, and it was rising. Now inflation has a two in front of it, and that is a demonstration of that progress.
So get ready, mission accomplished. And in fact, from the very same people who told us that it was mission accomplished, they are all prepared to run the line that everything is okay, everything is awesome, and it's time for the Reserve Bank to start cutting interest rates. Now. It is time for the Reserve Bank to start cutting interest rates because we have been in a per capita recession for the best part of what seven courters in a row I think it is. It's been a huge period of
time where we the average people have gone backwards. The living standards are at nineteen forty nine. This government is responsible. This government promised to change it. This government should be
punished for it. Oh but get ready, get ready for the media to say that just because prices are going up by a little less than they previously went up, then magically the assumption is that we're all too stupid to know the difference between what the cost of everything was before this bloke became Prime minister at the cost of everything now that he is Prime minister and has had a full term to screw up the joint perfect example how much extra it costs to pay off the
family home. A third of Australians are trying to pay off a house, more than that are trying to pay off their own house. So once you start to throw in the people that are paying off an investment property, the majority of people in Australia care about what is
happening when it comes to interest rates. And the West Australian did a little thing on the average homeland in West Australia, which is about four hundred thousand dollars, many thousand dollars lower than say what you happening in Citney, Melbourne, Brisbane. But how's this about? Sixty thousand dollars is how much extra interest you have had to pay since this mob came to power. Sorry, that's your interest repayments. It works out at the best part of almost forty four zero
thousand dollars increase since this blow came to power. Do your sums? Divide it by twelve, divided by six, divide it and whichever way you want. Having to find an extra thirty forty fifty thousand dollars depending on where you are and how much you're paying off your house is a disgrace. You didn't have the money then, you don't have the money now, And yes, why there has not been a huge number of people that are whacking the for sale sign up because they can't pay for the
roof over their head anymore. You know in your suburb there are plenty more places for sal than were a couple of years ago, even when the interest rates were as low as they were. They said it was a cost of living crisis and the ultimate example of why
been needed to change the government three years ago. Well guess what three years later, more people cut back on Christmas than they did the year before, the year before that, More people are worried about how they're going to pay for their kids to go to school, and more people are having to find tens of thousands of dollars in
what limited way as they actually had. Because unless youre a public servant, unless you're a politician, you have not got the pay rise that matches the increase in your costs from interest rates, which in part are because of government spending. Australia must remember this. You have to remind your family members of this show that promise again from elbow from a couple of years ago, I want you, if you can, to pick up your phone right now.
I'll give you a couple of seconds. Pick up the phone, lean in and take a pharto with the LBO promise that everything would be lower under a labor government. I want you to keep this one nice and close. You can go and google image it if you want. But the cost of everything is going up, and a labor government will lower the cost of living. I'll give you a couple of seconds here, all right, everyone, five four three two one, Take the photo, post it online. Remind your
family that that was the promise. Did this happen No? Two seventy five y twenty twenty five? Nah, everything else go up? Yes, and in part because of very sneaky taxes.
So come over to camera five. One of the ways that this federal government has been able to get itself to a surplus is not through incredible economic management, not by cutting wasteful spending, but of course because they've been kissed on the proverbial, because they've been hit by lightning and more money out of the mining industry that looks like it's about to dry up, which means ah pany panic.
And why we're going to start the first of the next forty years forty four zero kids years in deficit. Oh but aren't they fantastic that will go over retreating dollars. But don't talk about that. That was the last mob please. Now it is now twenty five years since we had a discussion in Australia about changing the tax system. You might remember the ads uji. Australia is currently being held back.
We are tied to a tax system that's been patched up over and over again since the nineteen thirties.
Now, imagine the outrage if somebody was doing that. Now, oh, there's a child, How did the child's being held by the chains?
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Goodness me? And there's not enough diversity in the you know, all the crap that we go on. Now, twenty five years ago we got the GST, which was the major change to our system, which was supposed to get rid of a whole bunch of sneaky taxes, lots of the sneaky taxes that the state and federal government put in place in exchange for a overall consumption tax that didn't apply to everything, but basically applied to everything bar a very few things. That meant that the federal government was
getting more revenue than ever before. But put simply, the people who spend more than other people end up paying more tax than the people who don't. It means if somebody wants to go and buy a speed boat, they're going to be paying more tax than the person who is only going to the supermarket to buy the basics. That's the general idea in and around it. But something that has ever been us but certainly has creeped up during this term in government is a dirty little thing
called excise taxes. Now these are easy because obviously they're voluntary, because if you didn't fill up your car, you wouldn't have to pay the tax on petrol. If you didn't have a drink, you wouldn't have to pay the tax on booze. God forbid, you are slightly killing yourself via smoking. That is a horrific thing of which you should pay more tax because you're a burden on the health system. Blah blah blah. And even if you buy a pair of shoes, you got to pay some tax on that
as well, and not the GST. In fact, in Australia we now pay an excise tax for all the things I've talked about and then the GST on top of it. Put simply tax on top of a tax that produces for the federal government last year forty seven almost forty eight before billion dollars. Keep that number up, soak it in petrol, who's smokes shoes? Diesel forty seven point nine
billion dollars. Let me break this down for you for some of the areas, and just how much tax you pay if you need to fill the truck or the family trucks with diesel seventeen b four billion dollars in tax. Guess where that gets passed on to if you're a truck that happens to be moving anything around Australia. And last time I checked, nothing grows at the supermarket. It all has to be driven tax. Tobacco eight point seven b four billion dollars. Now they tell us fewer people
are smoking that ever before. And yes, of course it's a terrible thing, you shouldn't do it. But less than ten percent of the population is paying eight point seven b four billion dollars out of tobacco. But of course they decide to move to vaping, but they don't tax vaping. So what's going on here? As for petrol, they decided to increase it. Remember, increase it. So now they're getting seven b for billion dollars out of petrol. I want you, every time you drive past a servo to think kuching.
Every time you see what's being sold behind the counter in tobacco, kutching. Every time you go to the boozer, spirits three point three b four billion dollars, beer two point six billion dollars, other forms of alcohol one point seven b four billion dollars. All of that, I remind you forty seven point nine billion dollars every time you see this stuff. I want you to see it that not only do you pay the excise tax, but then
you pay the GST on top of it. In Australia, the system that supposedly had been cleaned up twenty five years ago now has a tax on top of a tax. Incredible scenario that we have to pay in Australia. And this is how this federal government is able to bank a surplus. It is exclusively through these areas. If you took these areas out of a federal budget, they're nowhere near a surplus. So they can bang on about the future Fund as much as they want. They can whistle
Dixie about reforms to this or cutbacks on that. If you didn't drink, you didn't smoke, you didn't drive, and you didn't wear clothes, they wouldn't be anywhere near able to make the type of ludicrous promises that they make, and this Prime Minister is making more of them day by day by day we are what the twenty eighth of January, the Prime Minister has made promises. And I gave him the benefit of doubt because when we first put this number up, I thought, jeez, we must have
missed something. No, multiple media sources they came to the same number. We did. Have a guess, just have a guess. He's made fifteen point one six b for or billion dollar promises since the start of the year, not as a hangover from the budget fifteen billion dollars. As he tries to buy votes, change opinions, just like you did last year. But it didn't move the needle, just like the year before that didn't move the needle. But magically,
somehow this one will move the needle. Now. By the way, the stuff that he's promising, you can say, some of it's good, some of it's bad. It's up to you, but have a look. It's everything from you know, the brand new version of the NBN fixing roads that he promised to fix three years ago. So it's just old money, forever money, never going to see it money. This bloke is not even one month into this election year, fifteen billion dollars. Why am I the only one telling you this?
Why is everyone else focused on the minutia of today's movement in the election? Why is the six PM news obsessed with trying to sell the elbow with a day message? Because they don't want a change of government. They don't agree that this government has poorly performed, so they will do everything they can to offer the benefit of the doubt to a government who has made everything worse, who has got a sneaky form of taxation that, yes, other
governments have had, but they have ramped it up. So every time you hear them say, oh, we've done everything we can for cost of living, they increased these taxes to drive home the point, by the way, when I say when you see petrol stations, when you see a clothing shop, when you see all sorts of places, I want you to think, kachin, kachinkachin. We did this work today, an average tank of petrol twenty five dollars in tax
fifty cents a liter. If you get a slab one of the country's most popular beers, Great Northern, twenty dollars of a slab of beer in Australia is now tax to the federal government. Tax in the federal government. So they can go and make never never promises or pretend they're balancing the books. If you happen to be a wine person, eight dollars of that bottle is tax. If vodka's your thing, it'll cost you about seventy dollars. Thirty six dollars. Half of that bottle is now tax in Australia.
But if you don't drink, you don't pay the tax. And then, of course our old mates at Bundy rum I'll say it, and I'll say it again. Sixty three percent of this bottle, more than half, sixty three percent of the bottle show their ad is tax in Australia. Now. Should there be a slight excess on goodso okay, maybe as a little bit of extra money here or there,
but they are taking the piece. When a bottle of booze has sixty three percent, when a tank of gas is twenty five dollars when about a third, maybe more depending on what you drink in beer is tax. Oh but we're here for the little people, you see. I hate to break this to the people who love to fly at the front of the plane. I hate to break this to the people who were able to have the corporate credit card or the government credit card pay
their lunches. You see, the vast majority of Australians, they'd hand lived the high life. The vast majority of Australians. They work their backsides off. They get up early, They squint as they drive, as the sons in their eyes before they got the chance to say goodbye to their kids, sit on a motorway where they pay more tolls than they did before. If they want to get a coffee,
it's costing more than it ever did. Once they actually get work, let alone meat pie, anything the peak right, they work longer, They drive back in the squint and maybe after the kids have gone to bed, after the homework's been done, they sit down and they watch a show like this at a time like this, just before they go to bed. The only luxury in their day, maybe a little tipple, maybe just a little half glass of something, but the bottom for which it comes sixty
three percent of it is tax That is outrageous. Now, you can have the theory about tobacco and taxation because of the causation or whatever. Right, I think those taxes are too high and I don't believe them to be the determinant of the deterrent that they have profited to be Why because the making rates, yes, have slain, but they have not been blown away. But for the vast majority of the country that's not. Yeah, you have a drink.
I'm a minority because I don't drink, but I definitely fill up my carb with petrol, definitely buy a pair of shoes. This country is built on a political lie when it comes to economic management on the federal budget. Without the taxes on your simple pleasures, they would be
nowhere near being able to balance the budget. So my suggestion is that they should reduce the taxes on normal people who look forward to that one thing they do for themselves for half an hour a day, maybe a little more on the weekends because God the pit they want to go and see their family and hang out. They want to sit around a campfire in the middle of winter. They want to have a couple if they go to the cricket, the footy, or even the ballot
boozers everywhere. Now, who's going to have the stones to come up and promise this not five percent, not two percent, but like half And then you know what they have to do. They then have to go through the rest of the federal budget and find some stuff to get rid of. And yes, there will be some outrage because a dollar removed from here means that your political opponents could turn around and go cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts and services. It's not going to come out of education, it's not
going to come out of health. It might come out of the two hundred and fifty million dollars that the government spends on itself to market itself through using your taxpayer funds to advertise themselves at an election. Maybe they could put off a pay rise. Maybe not everyone in the public service should be able to get the free flights. Maybe the bosses of the department shouldn't be paid double what the prime minister earns. Let alone you pick, but
let people have their simple pleasures. Stop taxing them, Stop pretending that you're an economic genius because you found a way to clip the ticket. But because most of your mates have either got so much money they don't notice, they don't care, or you've got a corporate card or you've got the government card paying for it that you don't notice. The vast majority of people who will decide this election do let them, after a very tough years, have some respite. We've got plenty more to say about
this over the next little while. It will become a regular theme, and whichever party stands up to it, expect some big, big chat from me between now and the election. This is an easy win, an easy political win. Yeah, it's going to be tough because you're gonna have to cut a bit here and cut a bit there to get yourself back to a balanced budget. But guess what, pull your big boy pants on and you'll find a
way to do it. Main Tom the interesting bit of data in and around some of the latest polling that I wanted to show you this evening, which is so much of the lefty media resort. Oh dunne is Trump, don't it's going to try to be like an Aussie Trump.
He's so going to be like Orange man bad even though he's not orange, but he's still bad right, like climate change, like all the stuff you know, like literally they must be being paid by the headline in taxpayer media or the Turnabul Times, all the rest of the papers trying to draw the connection. But one thing that is starting to be a provable link between the political revolution in the United States and the one here is sadly not to do with woke, but it is to
do with young blokes. Young blokes that have had enough are being told what to do by all the different Karens in their life, Tired of being told that if they are what their father was, then they are toxic masculinity, that apparently their default settings are to abuse people rather than protect the women in their life. You know this, And they've had enough, and they haven't had enough because they've found Andrew Tate or they're listening to Joe Rogan.
They've had enough because they have free will. And in the latest politic it shows you that younger men apparently are part of the push why the Labour Party is on the ropes and why Peter Dutton is moving up in the charts. Have a look at the gender differences here inside their latest polling, which is worth having a look at here Okay, so thirty two percent primary for the Labour Party with females thirty six for blokes the Greens.
Thirty two percent of women are backing the Greens, just twenty percent of blokes and you can see the rest of it all there for yourself interestingly, as the preferred prime minister. This couldn't be starker. Oh, Peter Dutton's got a problem with where is the way this gets interpreted? Let me explain why this is interesting to watch, and it's not just because there is a disparity here where more women are backing in Albanesi, but you can also
see a majority of blokes backing in Albersi. But then the overall preferred prime minister is pretty levels. So this is all about eighteen to thirty four year olds, not men overall, but eighteen to thirty four year olds. It just showed you that with the primary art assure you that showed you that with the preferred prime minister, I'm going to come the approval ratings. Let's not mark around eighteen to thirty four year olds, about a fifth of
them almost quarter don't like Petta Dutton. What a surprise that the right on crowd eight is into Peter Dutton. But interestingly, the numbers are very different when it comes to Anthony Albernezi eighteen to thirty four. Now, generally speaking they skew right. So it is very interesting to see
any movement towards the center or towards the right. And that matters because today I went and checked out with the AEC the very latest enrollment statistics, the latest people who have signed up to vote at this year's federal election. There are four point six million people between the age of eighteen and thirty four, and it is basically a little bit rounding bang on fifty to fifty. So yes, if a greater proportion of females versus a greater proportion,
this is the American election stuff. But remember if basically the profile of anti liberals is the same as it has always been with women, yet the profile is changing more positively with men, that will be a net positive for the opposition leader and his team. Again, this is why I hope you like the show. I try to give you the data. We put the opinion on top of it. Bells and whistles showbiz, but I just want
to make sure that you know the data. So eight end of thirty four, maybe actually moving slightly to the center or slightly to the right and that will help. The ultimate demographic that decides the election basically is thirty five to fifty five and then fifty five plus, pretty solid for the coalition. That said, one or two things in the poll did make me think this is contradictory.
Right generally speaking, do you think the country is head in the right direction despite the fact that the blokes are going towards Dutton, They think the country is headed in the right direction more than women. So I think that women ate into thirty four, it's going in the wrong direction, but we think the bloke who's currently leading is in the wrong direction. Is the preferment, Okay, that's weird.
And then Green's voters, young voters, guess what some of them, some of them not liking all the garbage that they have been offering. And remember they've been firing money like a T shirt. Canon the election, they got what was twenty five percent About halfway through last year, they got up to twenty seven percent same demographic ad into thirty four. Now they're down to twenty three percent. Every point matters,
every vote matters. Why because many seats are on a knife edge, and as they laid it out for you last night, there is a path, sometimes narrow for some, sometimes impossible for others. But it's why I show you so no one's waking up in surprise the week before an election. Many of those seats exist in Western Australia. Now you know. The WA is a place that has been visited many, many many times by both of the leaders,
both trying to Albernizi's case sure up support. They want a bunch of seats there at the last election after the rejection of Scott Morrison and Peter Dutton trying to harness what happened after the Voice, which was quite the rejection of the left, and hoping that people that have always voted liberal but didn't once come back and do so into the next little while. We'll all find out together. But here's the Prime Minister in Western Australia. They're both
there today. That's what I'm talking about it.
We're building Australia's future, and Western Australia is a key to that future because it's driving the present growth. But if you look at where the future economy is going, Western Australia will continue to be such a key role in driving national economic growth as one of the engine rooms of our national economy.
As for Peter.
Dutton, I think it's obvious to all people in this great state. That's when you've got a prime Minister who's not being open and honest about the environmental plan that they've got to bring in which will USh the mining sector here in Wa and agriculture as well, that the Prime Minister needs to be asked these questions, Why won't he release the detail.
And why will they be heading west? No, it isn't because they are inspired by a pet Shop Boys song or they would like to spend some time at Devlen's get out to everyone there. I know they watch. Way has got fifteen seats, nine of them, the Labor Party holds, Libs have got five and the Independence have got one. Libs lost a few of the last election, but basically
there are now four marginal seats. The expectation is that if Labour's going to hold on to a minority government, they need to hold on to the two that are their most marginal. If the Liberal Party is going to get any close to it, they have to win the two see facts Facts Facts facth that's facts, facts fact.
I'll look to you each and every night. Look, I've got a whole bunch of other stuff, the baggert because Meghan Kelly and Nigel Faraja next, our favorite time of the week, our favorite person in the world, one of them, Met and Kelly. You can see her show on YouTube. Hear it on Serious XM. But most importantly, watch your right now hanging here on Pull Murray Live.
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Very good? I got to say the very best and the very worst of America on show this weekend. Right the best? The president is just rocking around a casino, no pressure, hoping that someone's going to hit, you know, the double sixes. Come on, Alex. That was awesome. And in that lunatic, lunatic Selena Gomez crying and carrying on about immigration. Let's focus on the awesome though. What about
the president running around in Vegas? What about the Vice president kicking the media's ass they are on fire?
How about President Trump having just a rally for the hell of it, Like she's Ben swore an inn as president, there is no need for additional rallies. He's just dying to get out there and be with the voters. It's amazing. What you've seen is what energy looks like. You know, what an active, engaged president looks like. And it's been so long since we've had that, it's totally unfamiliar. But
also we've never seen what Trump is doing. And I was saying this to my husband the other day, I'm like, you got to think at some level Obama's sitting back saying to himself, Yeah, I wish I had thought of that. You know, it's just like just sit at the oil and talk to them, just like, let him in, let them behind the veil. Don't don't treat it like you're some royal, you know, highness kind of guy. Like show
him the letter. You know what, have a rally, talk to the people, Go sit down with the mayor, crash her party and say what are you doing? That's too long a time. Then go speak with the people in North Carolina and let them bitch about their insurance policies on camera for all the world to see. You know, like, swing through Vegas, have a rally. Why not everybody Vegas? You know, here's the dace, walk past the jackpite where the people are pulling the slid. It's like, have a
good time, enjoy yourself. He's seventy eight years old. He doesn't have that much time left. Even with Trump's good jeans, make it fun to have a great four years. Let the country come along with you. We're we're having fun with this presidency to the point where even the Democrats now, you know, they're like a party. Looks kind of fun. I don't really want to be with the unattractive dower ones anymore.
Also, I just love, you know, the fight, fight, fight that is just continuing all the way into the office. And the Columbia situation is the perfect example where the people being booted out of the country, that first round of people are the criminals, right, not for the crime of illegal immigration, but on top of committing or being accused of a crime while in the United States. And
I love JD. Van sitting opposite, you know, one of four hundred boring people in the access old school media, and he out as the words that I know just filled your heart with joy. Was when they just asked him the same question for the Eindhezer to saw me said, I don't care.
That was a very particular case. It wasn't clear if he was radicalized when he got here or while he was living.
I don't really care, Margaret. I don't want that person in my country, and I think most Americans agree with me. I love that, I loved that.
Don't where Margaret. I don't really care Margaret. Too bad, he speaks for us all that Meme is going to be with us for a while. She could not have beclowned herself worse. I mean, she just made an absolute fool out of herself, demanding to know why he hadn't solved the economy problems in the first five days, like with an executive order. Just a complete moron. Just what a wonderful foil for him. Choosing her to sit across from was actually brilliant, Like most of what JD does.
She made an idiot out of herself. And you know, all of the Sunday anchors trying to play the little heartstrings for the murdering child rapist that Tom Homan, our borders are is kicking out of the country right now, like we we really don't care, we don't care. She was trying to make the point of like, well, it's not clear when that one terrorist you're trying to kick out was radicalized was he radicalized before he got here or once he That's where he said, I really don't care, Margaret.
I don't want that man in school or near my children or yours. And I think that's how most Americans feel. It's we're turning into Australia, Paul, when it comes to our borders.
It's a thing of beauty. They were the bad fIF actors who are trying to, you know, gin up. I don't know who they're trying to fire up, but Selena Gomez, you know, actress who cares. But the reason I mentioned this is that I think you said tonight's got one hundred and forty million people on Instagram, and she decides to.
Say for one hundred and twenty two million, wow.
Wow wow. So this is her sphere of influence and she's deciding to cry up a storm. Only people are getting.
Childrenand I'm so sorry. I wish I could do something that you care. I don't know what to do.
There's two things about this I wanted to ask you. Clearly, this person is nuts, But secondly, isn't the sign of how disingenuous these people are is think about when the last time you cried in real life would you have even been aware of how to turn on your phone, let alone aim yourself at the camera. Normal people don't do that. Performers do that.
No, it's so humiliating. Most people with a touch of dignity. And I've been on the air. I mean, the worst ever was during the Newtown massacre of twenty six first graders, while I was pregnant and already the mother of two other children. I mean that the dignified person tries to hold back the tears because they know that they have something to do. If you're in front of the camera, you're there for a reason. Somebody thought your voice was important for some reason, so you owe them an obligation
to share it. It's not to say you should be some emotionless troll the entire time you're on the air, But that's the normal person's instinct is to approach any sort of public messaging with a touch of dignity. That's one of the reasons why the Lauren Sanchez naked boobs
were so offensive at the inauguration. No dignity, but this woman has decided to manufacture tears to try to work herself up, you know, as an actress might before a scene that could potentially be say oscar worthy and try her best turn on the water works.
The reason we're talking to you today is because RFK Junior begins his process of making his way towards the Health and Human Services Secretary job. Pet Higgsyth was able to get up as Defense Secretary. So you've got to imagine that there'll be Democrat votes maybe to replace one or two or three Republicans who might decide to roll their eyes. What are the stakes for this week and what does RFK represent? Because we're gonna hear a lot about oh, this personal life and he slept with this
person and a bear. Tell us about what's actually he didn't sleep with a bear, by the way, Just there's a story.
A no, she just cut off a bear's head after it was already dead. Just facts, facts first. On this program. He represents the same thing Tulca Gabbard, who's up for DNA Director of National Intelligence represents, and the same thing Pete Hegseth represents, and the same thing Pambindi at DOJ and Cash Pertel at FBI represent, which is change. Change. The way we've been doing things hasn't been working. But the vast majority of Americans, and if you want a
different result, you have to try a different approach. That's what Trump is, That's what Trump's top agents are, That's what his cabinet is. For the most part, there's a couple of exceptions, perhaps, but overall it's we're going to try to do things differently, and therefore these people will not fit the mold of everybody who was here before. You're not going to get different results if you keep
doing the same thing. I couldn't care less about rfkj's marital issues, his drug issue when he was in college, the man's seventy weird kennedyisms, and his bare situation in Central Park. I couldn't care less. You know what I care about. I care about the fact that childhood disease has skyrocketed in the past thirty years, Autism has skyrocketed in the past thirty years. Cancers among miners and young people like thirty year olds has skyrocketed as of late.
That I care about it, and ikin't wait to watch it. You are at the absolute heart of everything, and everything in the US is the heart of the world at the moment. So so awesome to talk to you, so you later.
Rockstars you next week, My pleasure see you then.
She is the best. Make sure you watch Megan Kelly show You Can Do It Serious XM Live Middle of the Night in Australia. But obviously the highlights up on her podcast or YouTube. Speaking of highlights, it is all killer, no filler. But you're straight after the break. The wonderful Nigel Farage, his party Reform is surging. The polls are brilliant as people in the UK feel like they wouldn't mind a little bit of what's happening in America. And the man to deliver it is our guest next. Oh
we love Nigel Farage. The only place you're going to see him on Assie Telly certainly regularly is here pul Murray Live every single Tuesday night. I'm telling you all killer no filler. And the great Man, the leader of Reform, joins us now from mighty old England. Great Man, love you to see you. The waft of freedom that is moving across the Western world looks like it is up and under the wings of reform at the moment five million votes, but because of the system, only five seats
in the parliament. Latest polling in and around seats would put you above the Conservatives and even above Labor. Mate, this is an incredible start to a movement that is only going to get stronger. Mate.
Yeah, nothing like this has happened since nineteen eighteen, which was in a Labor Party after the First World War began to replace the Liberal Party. Not for one hundred years has an insurgency movement come through and topped a national opinion poll. And all of this in a space of seven months. So yeah, it's pretty remarkable. I did wonder whether it was worth my coming out of political retirement, but at the moment, we're on a bit of a roll.
I also love I saw an interview with you earlier today and somebody's talking about the Poles, and then they tried that little media trick, right oh, and clearly you're being overly confident because the Poles, And then your retort in that interview is to say, hey, you're the one talking about the poles. I like this because it's one thing to be confident, it's one thing to feel like you're on a roll. But also, you know, poles are great,
but it's really like wrestling smoke. That's what's really important and what would your lessen be to say, people who like to cut of your jib, like the type of politics that you put forward in a place like Australia where okay, the polls might show that, you know, the majority of people think there's going to be a change in government. A poll is one thing, reality is another. You've got to pick the target and ram ram ram right.
Yes, and you've got to spread optimism.
This is the thing.
Our politics have become so negative. Our politicians and will become sort of boring, dull, humorless careerists. And look at what Drum did, Look at what Trump has just done. What was the vision. We are going to make America great again. We're going to make America healthi again. We're going to make America strong again. It's all about big, buzzy optimistic messages. Is just about policy, it's about vibe.
And I think all of us living in the Western world know that we've been living in serious social decline. The values upon which our entire civilization has been built have been seriously threatened. The hard left of gone through the educational establishment and much of mainstream media. Conservatives have been wishy, washy and wet so vibe is really really important. That's how Trump won and that's why we're winning at the moment in the opinion polls. And if you come
to a reform meeting, it's like a rock concert. They're all chairing, they're all happy. Optimism is what people need.
Yeah. And also you know detractors, you remember, because you seek to disrupt the comfortable way that they have built their little world around them. They come with every little angle. But something that I think that is starting to spread across the world is that there's a very significant group of people who are not falling for the old tricks at how you demonize the disruptor. And again the free advice to the Australian politicians here, I'm not talking about, hey,
let's all out trump each other. Lets you know, the one with the strongest memes wins. That sense of optimism and the idea that you're not a shamed to vote this, You're not a secret closet this, you're not. You are somebody who is actively wanting the best and most positive outcome for their country. And to be honest, the Left doesn't know how to handle it because the only way they know how to come up against a person like you is to say, well, but what about this thing
you said two days ago? Insert group is offended by who cares? Or as you said, boring, boring, boring.
Absolutely, Look, there's a big change going on. We've reached Pete woke, We've reached the end I think of the extremes of council culture.
Do you know it was the morning of.
The election on the fifth of November, and I was in Pennsylvania, outside Scranton, Joe Biden's hometown, and I was outside of polling station. I said to a woman, what do you think. It's really funny? You know, but a lot more people have got Trump signs on the lawn that I've ever seen before. People aren't afraid to say they support Trump. Now, that's what's happening across the West. And as you say, the abuse that gets thrown from the last left, we're all homophobes, transphobes, I mean, any
kind of fobe you can think of. We've got to the point no one cares.
Yeah, it's a wonderful feeling. May it last for as long as possible. May you know, the early signs become the genuine revolution. A perfect example about something that is surging The support for reform is absolute clarity. Right. A country doesn't exist unless it has a border. And if you let somebody wander over the border at their choice, not yours, then you're in a world of pain. What's this? One hundred and fifty thousand illegal migrants have come across
the channel since twenty eighteen. That is madness. And I just love that they pretend, oh, there's no way we can possibly respond to this rubbish.
Well Tony Abbott sorted it out at Australia back in twenty twelve, and I just love the planes heading to Columbia and the Columbian president throwing a real big hissy fit and then backing down. Donald has showed us the way. We're all open to immigration provided people come legally, don't have criminal records, pay for themselves, that's fine. But anyone crossing your borders illegally should not be allowed to stay. And we have had such weakness from conservative and labor governments.
Let me promise you if we get a reform government, the deportations will begin and the boats will stop coming.
Is there the correlation between and certain sections of illegal migration going on to commit further crimes? Is this something that is popping up in the news because the daily examples of it from Lake and Riley, the murder of Lake and Riley in the United States, it helped crystallize the problem, right and again this sort of lefty Jedi mind trick. Oh, it's all migration, No, it's not, it's illegal migration. Are there exis examples of crimes that are
taking place after people into the country illegally. Yes, more and more.
It's been very difficult to talk about because as soon as you do, suddenly you're put into the racist category. But yes, evidence is mounting of those that have entered Britain legally committed absolutely heinous crimes. And I would say that in France where the problem is worse than it is in Britain because of the sheer number that have
been allowed to cross the Mediterranean and stay. The reason Marine Le penn is favorite to win the next French presidential election in twenty twenty seven is the dots have been joined in France between illegal immigration and serious crime. And I think this is going to happen across the whole of Europe. And remember, in some cases with these crimes, you've got young men coming from countries in which women
aren't even treated as second class citizens. So the rise, especially in sexual crime, it's something people who up are really really waking up to.
I loved it, mate, great chat mate. Be the same again next week and every week for the rest of the year. We love having you on. Thank you, Nigel Farraj, of course, our bossill reform and member of Parliament in the United Kingdom. There is a story which has just dropped on the Australians website and it is a disgrace. You know how Bill Shorton is now off working for a university hired by the very people who he hired
to do the inquiry into the ndis well. His salary is going to go from four hundred thousand dollars working for the government to now working for the university, which is still technically working for the government eight hundred thousand dollars. Eight hundred thousand dollars. Here will be paid more than two hundred thousand dollars more than the Prime Minister to be the boss of the University of Canberra, an important institution but hardly the same job. See you tomorrow night