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Paul Murray Live | 27 October

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Queenslanders boot out the Miles Labor government, accountability is selective in Victoria, and what major US polls are saying about Donald Trump's chances of becoming president again.

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Speaker 1

This is Paul Murray lives. Get a from Brisbane, a new beauty Queensland. They booted labor and they did so forget the spin. They did so hard last night. Let's talk about that Queensland election. We'll have guests here in Brisbane, including the incoming Deputy Premier, jarreb Blay. In a moment or two time. What doesn't feel like to have finally

climbed the mountain, slayed the dragon, all of that business. Well, last night I was in the room when David Crucif Foley took to the stage about eleven o'clock Brisbane Times. I was pretty damn late compared to what the expectation was. But I'll give you the tip. The reason why this took so long is because the counting took so long, not because the result was in doubt. I'll have something to say about that a little bit later. But a

new broom and a fresh start David Crucier Fuley. How refreshing is this from a Queensland premier, not the type we've had for the past ten years. Of course, he talked about the choice of hope over fear, and that largely was the election. I'll get into great detail about what the media thought this election was about. What the media thought was happening in the final days of this election. But the Queensland voters, when they voted and how they voted,

has told us what this election clearly was about. Now they're essentially was two tracks here. People have voted on the day, people who voted early. The people who voted early, well, they of course turned around and delivered an absolute thumper year. Now the reason why when we were in that room last night on the LNP and sort of the first hour, okay, maybe they're just getting started the second hour, what's really

going on the third hour? Okay, surely it's known by now. Well, that's because the extreme majority of the vote happened before election day and the way that I understand the queens and Electoral Commission did its counting was that it counted out the election day because all of that was in one box. And after they had done that, that's when they turned to the way bigger box, which had been the early vote. Now the queens and Electal Commission has

to change. They either need more people or they need new leadership, because this is not the first time there's been a problem. And when I say problem, I mean delay or lack of information. There were some seats that weren't getting updated for a couple of hours, and that meant that that couple of hour window was an opportunity for the Labor Party and its spinners to pretend that somehow magically they had held on to government despite losing up to maybe fifteen seats.

Speaker 2

It was neck and neck, and Labor did put up a fight and credit where credits due. There are certainly a lot of Labor commentators today that say that Stephen Miles as the Premier, did a fantastic job to try and resurrect Labour's campaign, or.

Speaker 3

Labor to record the number of seats that we did was a pretty amazing result.

Speaker 1

This is rubbish, okay. The only expectation that the polls gave us a couple of weeks out from the election was fifty five to forty five. Currently the number well forty nine and a bit for the Labor Party, fifty four and a bit for the Liberal Party. Okay, So what one point off that's still absolutely decisive, That is not close, that is not a better campaign, that is not oh ifs and buts, and if the campaign went

one week longer we would have won. How look at the primary vote, Labour went down six point eight percent, the LNP went up by six points, which meant people went from the Team red side of the road and they walked straight across to the LMP. The minor party vote, which i'll explain in greater detail a little bit later, well it didn't appear. I also think people are getting a bit too excited about pretending that the Greens are

dead all across queens and that's not true. But how can I not talk about Giggles Miles the former Premiere of Queensland. Don't that feel good to say the former Premiere of Queensland. Now, he didn't come out and give a speech when it had become clear that not only had he lost government, but the LNP was going to get a majority instead. He was making the most of this awkward moment in the counting. Remember the results aren't changed.

The counting of them was the moment for him to be able to walk out there and pretend that somehow he had had a triumph. I have never seen a person who has been swept from government. Remember they lost thirteen seats, They could end up losing fifteen don swept. Domestos has been applied, stain has been removed yet because the Labor Party lives in this sort of fake world where when they lose they were cheated out of it.

When they win. It's a revolution for the ages that this bloke, who is a hyperpartisan, used the moment when post election you've got to let the air out of the balloon. It's how we don't end up as widely rilled up as places like the United States, when elections are very close and there's a couple of seats in it and there'll be a negotiation for who's going to make the government. Well, I understand why people give speeches to say they're still in with a shot. But the

bloke was rejected. He was rejected as not the preferred premier. He was rejected as not the man with the answers for Queensland. He was rejected for the laughing about youth crime. He was rejected for trying to buy off an electorate that even if they liked some of the buyoffs, they took the money and said now you go and run away. Unlike the KFC, he had what shut up and take my money. It was I'll take your money. Now you

shut up. But Stephen Miles, hyperpartisan to the end, was talking not to the people of Queensland but to the people in the room. This was an opportunity when hundreds of thousands of people were watching across all the different television networks. They were going to read all the coverage in the Korea mal the next day, and this was a moment where theoretically he would be able to begin

the rebuild. But I think he did himself about as much damage as Paul Keating did after the nine to ninety three election, when instantly Australians went I am not interested in you, and they waited for three years and they got rid of him. In this case, he's going to have to work very hard to come back from this as a way of presenting himself when he lost last night.

Speaker 4

Watching the results tonight, it is clear that that hasn't been enough to secure a majority of seats for Labor, and also that the LP is unlikely to have a majority. Queenslanders know what I believe and what I stand for. While David Chris of Foley ducked and weaved and tied himself into the tiniest small target, Queensland has ever seen. Never before has a party taken to an election with

so little detail of their agenda. This election finishes with many more questions about the LMP's plans than answers.

Speaker 1

Rubbish. Right, he was arrogant, he was rude, he was impolite, all of it. Of those things right, But basically it was confirmed in the speech what you and I have known all the way through the election and all the way through his premiership that while many of his media mates here in Queensland and around the country desperately hoping that he would be able to find a way to bribe or bs the people of Queensland, we saw the

real Stephen Miles. We saw through the campaign garbage, we saw through the giggles, we saw through the biofs, and the reality was that the nasty bloke who when the mass came off, showed himself to be that nasty bloke on election night is the bloke who we all know

would behave like that behind the scenes. Brutally. It'll be a long road back for the Labor Party, but in a state where they have been in government for much of the past thirty years with one term exception, they've got plenty of mates in the public service that will leak to them. They've got plenty of mates in the unions that went silent about hospitals and crime that are now going to scandalize every single case to make it look like the new government is more chaotic than the

one that has been moved. But I want to show you two examples. But the type of Labor Party that even people who don't vote for the Labor Party but remember a better Labor Party, don't associate with the current Labor Party. Murray, what is again a hyperpartisan? Who was on television today? And if you can't say we lost at the end of the game, then people know you're not telling the truth. You can say you're disappointed, you can say that people got it wrong, if that's your belief.

But this was the reaction of Senator Murray Watt today justifying the behavior of Miles last night.

Speaker 3

I actually thought Steven's speech was terrific. I thought he talked about the great effort from Labor and its volunteers, acknowledged what Queenslanders had had to say through their voting patterns. I think to be fair to Stephen at the time that he gave that speech last night, the result was pretty unclear. The LMP hadn't reached a majority at that point.

Speaker 1

In times, no no no no no no no, no no no, there's no do overs. There's no do overs. If the result was unclear, then you wait until the result is clear. Instead, he waited long enough for the narrative to go out, long enough so on some bizarre

passive aggressive level, he could deny. Yes, the hyperpartisans, but the people who wanted the result to be a change of government, to make it seen like there hadn't been a tectonic shift in state politics that will not last forever, only of course registered in four year increments, but something big changed in Queensland. Now, compare Stephen, Miles and Murray.

What with our mate rich O? He wouldn't defend this crap last night, and that's old school labor, the people who say that people always get it right even when you lose, graceless as it was pathetic.

Speaker 5

I'm not going to defend that. That was a lot of crap and I'm very disappointed that was a forfeited before.

Speaker 1

Good on him. If you watched our coverage last night, you heard me say particularly warm things to Richo after he said that. I repeat them again here. That is how Australians play their politics. You can be frustrated, you can be heartbroken, but the sun comes up the next day. And while certain decisions and certain personalities may not please you at the end of the day, at the end of the game, at the end of the fight, there has to be a genuine spirit of recognizing what happened,

that you're won, and that you're lost. You should be a good winner and not rub people's faces in it. And you should be a good loser and recognize that you have lost, that you got it wrong. Thank goodness, we have Richo on nights like last night. All right, So, as always after elections, I tell you the five things that I want you to think about or that I think we've learnt out of the Queensland election. Let's go through them here. Number One, people made their mind up

very early. The election campaign did not change people's opinion. There was a very different number of people who voted on election day than those who had voted early. And in fact, in all of the seats that the LNP has won, have a look at this. They won the seat of Mackay. There was an eighty one percent early vote in Calandra seventy one percent, Harvey Bay sixty six percent, rock Hampton sixty one there Andoa fifty eight, Nicklin fifty four.

Half of all people had voted early in Pine Rivers and Keppel, almost that in Redcliffe Mundingborough and then yes, you get into the forties, but still a significant number of people McKay voted early. They didn't care about the campaign because they knew that the issues of the past four years were the reason that people were making their decision about the next four years, not the distraction of the past four weeks, which brings me to message number two.

Much of the media, especially here in Queensland or they fell for Labour's lives, They fell for the spin about what was going on here. Now the media has a very strong relationship with the Queensland government. I say that because, as I said, with the exception of the Newman era, it's always been Labor governments. Virtually everyone who ends up being a high profile state political reporter ends up working for the Labor Party because that's the job that's on offer.

Many junior people in and around the media they realize they can get a pay rise of an extra five ten twenty five thousand dollars, which is very attractive when you're a young reporter and they all end up working for the government or for the departments. Mount Kuther is where all the TV stations are. It's the highest point

here in Brisbane. There's an awful lot of people who over the past ten years have made a straight march from working covering Queensland politics to becoming participants for one side of Queensland politics, which means they've all got mates back up on the hill. They've all got mates in the newsrooms everywhere, and they've all got mates in the punditory class, which means those of us that are on the television. If we know one of those people will

why wouldn't you, mate? What do you reckon's going on? What can you hear? What can you will? Surprise? Surprise, guess what they have been saying. Oh mate, that's coming back to us. I'm telling you this abortion thing, I mate, it's frightening everyone and you've seen that pop up in the coverage in the past couple of weeks.

Speaker 3

In a major development changes to Queensland's abortion laws, l.

Speaker 6

MP leader has been asked to repeat his position on abortion.

Speaker 1

The divisive abortion debate has resurface.

Speaker 7

Savor Chriso fully dodged questions around energy and abortion, and.

Speaker 1

Then eventually these things start creating a feedback loop with the things that are being said on television start to be reflected by the people who watched television, and then the people on television took to the people watching television to reinforce what they You see what I mean. And something that we called out on day one of this campaign was alive. Day one of this campaign was a lie. We showed you, we proved it. Day one of this

election was a lie. You started to see and more and more articles, and more and more intelligence, and more and more spin, which is why you will have seen on this program, even me with the clear eyes of everything that's bad about this government. Well there must be something to this. So you're looking into this data and that data reality was for some it may well have been an issue, but when what was it? In Mackay

eighty one percent of people voted early. It meant the last week of the campaign where the media was reflecting the spin and then sometimes some people on the ground voters we're repeating to the media is see what I mean, it felt like this was a significant issue, but guess what it wasn't. The significant number of seats that changed were outside of Brisbane, and that in and of itself does present a problem for the LMP, but that's four years down the track. Let's not talk about next election.

This election and the issues from Townsville and up from the Sunny Coast all the way over to Woomba and even in the southeast was of course about youth crime. Now, crime will always exist, no one is ever going to pretend that it's not going to exist. But you want to make sure that when people do horrible things they are punished for it. Henceway adult Crime Adult Time worked as a message. People are sick of stories that they have seen over four years. In fact, they've seen them

over eighties. In fact, I think they've seen them for the entirety of this government, which was that there are story after story after story that in Queensland, if you're ring triple O, the ambulance may not turn up. And if you do get an ambulance to turn up, you're probably gonna have to sit in the back of an ambulance because there's no room in hospitals This is a huge challenge. This will not be fixed in two weeks.

But the LP has made it absolutely clear that their focus is reduce the number of victims of crime and reduce the chances of triplo not working or sitting in the back of an ambulance. Now, Labor has been in power and promised to do both of those things, but there's only so many times they can promise and underdeliver and things get worse before people turn around and say, you know what, goodbye, see you later. And then the last minute changed to Steven Miles. Oh, that was so

energizing for the Labor Party campaign. Well mate, he was in the sidecar when Anastasia Palichet spun and told lies and did everything that she did to drive this joint into the ground. Her backside saved by COVID and gets Health Minister was so in the in Queenslanders saw what they saw, They saw it for a long time out. They voted early and the Labor Party didn't just lose vibe. They bang see you later, goodbye. A majority, a clear majority will now be in place for the LMP. Number

three focus beat theatrics. David Miles, Sorry, David Miles, that's a friend of mine. Hello. David Stephen Miles and David crucif Foley, they had two very different styles. Miles, buddy, buddy with all the journos, and I'm on a jet ski and give them fresh pictures. Because if I give them fresh pictures, you know, and you get the people who work for you, who used to work for them, they run it and you look all, oh, look at me,

look at me. I'm having so much fun. David cruci fully press conference, press conference, press conference, press conference, and when he did the press conference, he would have an example of what the policy was. Queenslanders, as we can see out of this election, they could not care less if the desperate premier was on the back of a

jet ski firing a money canon at people. They saw in David crucifully and the olymp campaign a fresh start for Queensland excellently done and there would have been maximum pressure on them in the past couple of weeks to change to panic. They didn't and that did cause some problems, like the abortion issue, which was garbage from the start because they stuck to the line that they had was

interpreted by the media as an evasiveness. So then the issue became some sort of insight into the potential premier's character as being evasive. What Queenslanders saw by how they voted was that they knew the thing was a lie and their actual priorities well, they matched up with the people who they're hired to be governed for the next four years. Congratulations to David Crucifillie about how he campaign about how he did not fall for the theatrics and

the lies of the other one. Number four, the Greens flamed out. You know that the Greens had two seats here. They have lost one. They'll probably hold on to the other one that they had, but as always they were talking to big game, We're going to win six seats with ballance of power. Rah. You've also heard here that they're faced a nightmare scenario. Well, the Greens vote in certain seats did go down in other seats that did go up. The statewide number I'll get to in a second,

but I'll give you the tip. The reason they lost one of these seats is because the LNP reversed a stupid decision they made at the last election, which was to deny the Labor Party seats, so they gave preferences to the Greens. The Liberal Party preferences not there. Guess what happened to the Greens. Their true support evaporated and they weren't able to hold onto one of their seats. Fifth and final thing worth mentioning here is, and I'm

talking a lot about the queens And election. I'm going to a lot of people watching US on Frederware, particularly in regional Queensland. Not to mention everyone watching US right now, Fox, Tell, Flash and in all the other ways that you can watch US, Air, Samsung, LG, all the different ways that people watch this program. The minor party situation. Now, this basically was a transfer of vote from the MP to

the Labor Party. But if you have a look the Greens vote, they may well have lost a seat, but they remain the same okay, at about nine and a half percent. So all of this they collapsed. That no, the LMP preferences that got them elected didn't get there, and some of their vote was actually up in some suburban seats. So let's not pretend the Greens are dead. As much as you and I would both like it to be the case, one nation held the line, but

sadly haven't been able to get a seat. Congratulations to James James Ashbury for the way that he ran in Keppel and Paul in Hansen for holding onto those numbers. There's no upper House, which means these minor party votes don't get trained into seats in an upper house. KAP basically the same independence down family First. That one point seven percent are also equal preferences, which helped the LNP

legalize cannabis. Now, this statewide number at one point five you're going to think, Paul, what are you talking about here? They only ran in a dozen or so seats, and in some of those seats they got like eight percent of the vote. In fact, in the competition for the last Senate spot after the last federal election, the fight

was between one Nation and legalized cannabis. Now, I'm not speaking up for potsmokers here, I'm not one, right, but this is a little political movement that I think people who may think that the Greens are too wild on social issues, that some of those Green voters, dare I say, to the right of the left of the party. You get my point, They're going to move to legalized cannabis, all right. Legalized cannabis has got people elected in the Victorian,

New South Wales and Western Australian parliaments. I think they're going to crack a Senate seat somewhere at the next election. Could be a silly prediction. We'll all wait and see together, but that's what happened when it came to the minor parties. All right, that's the five things we're talking about out

of the Queensland election. We will discuss it all in a moment or two time here in Brisbane with one of our best mates in Brisbane and the incoming Deputy Premier, because they deserve their moment, they deserve their victory lap and then get on with the job. When everyone is well. The leader and Deputy Leader are sworn in the Morrow Ministry by the end of the week. But a fresh start for Queensan labor. It's been its lives, it's bs,

it's inherent advantages gone great. Queensan gets a wonderful four years fingers crossed. All right, let's talk about some of the other stuff that's around today, including what about Alba In these airline upgrades, now, plenty of people get them, but it's something else when you're a politician. Oh yeah, but I turned around and I declared everything. Surprise, surprise.

The buddy buddy relationship between Albau and Alan Joyce. It resulted in him, basically, apparently according to a new book that's coming out, he had the direct line of the CEO to say, Man, I'm flying over here. Can can I get the upgrade? Oh? Yeah? And what about who else I'm traveling with. The reason all this matters is because Albo, at one point in time when he was getting these gifts, was a transport minister. What would people say if the racing minister was getting gifts from the

racing industry. What would the people say if the planning minister was getting gifts from developers? That's why this is an actual story. And while the Prime Minister can turn around and say, as he has been saying today, nothing to see here. Everything was declared.

Speaker 7

From time to time members of Parliament receive upgrades. What's important is that they are declared. All of mine have been declared. I know that arranging them go back a long period of time. That they have all been declared as appropriate.

Speaker 1

The reason this is a story, Okay, perhaps not full scale scandal, but the reasons is a story and the reason it should be a story for a couple of days. Is because the person who at one point was the Transport Minister and therefore in part of the regulation of the industry of which he is receiving the favors from, who then in opposition, was also the shadow Transport Minister.

So the assumption being that under the bill shorten prime Ministerships Albert would have gone back to being the Transport minister. See why you've got to keep the relationship up. And while all of this may be technically okay, and the rules say technically, as long as you declare it, everything's okay. In Australia there are plenty of politicians who have lost their positions because the rules might have said it's okay,

but the pub test says that it isn't. And while I know the Prime Minister will turn up at a pub for a photo wop, for those of us who actually go to the pub on a Friday Sunday night, have a call to at a club or just like a slap every now and then. Well, we can see what this is, which is a very tight relationship between the people who are the regulator, the minister in this case, and the people they're supposed to be keeping an eye on,

like the referee and the players. There's something weird about this. As I say, I'm not going to suggest full blown scandal and not suggesting it's off to the National Corruption Commission, but there are people who have lost their job for less for their part of the opposition. I think we'll talk about this all week.

Speaker 8

I think Australians can smell a rat. I think that what we've seen in these revelations in the excerpts from Joe Aston's book Today show what we all suspected, and that is that the Prime Minister has been running a protection racket for Quannas for a long time that is received personal and financial benefits.

Speaker 1

Nowability. It's something we've talked about a lot that basically in the private sector, when you stuff up well, you either get admonished, demoted or maybe even sacked for performance. In government, you just turn around and try to change the subject. But interestingly, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission that is operating in Victoria is demanding greater accountability and they are suggesting that they may well introduce a formal way

of getting it. Let me explain, this Council has put reports out in the past a whole series of demands, many that you and I would disagree with, about separate justice systems and separate child protection systems and essentially sort of a government within a government specifically for Indigenous people. Most of us would have a problem with it, for the government has got it, but it's sort of sitting

on the report and not really responding. So today we read by the US Australian newspaper the Victoria's Truth Telling Body has threatened to haul labor ministers before accountability hearings as it accuses the Allen government of falling short on first peoples who shared their experiences brought on by colonization

and historical injustices. Now, wouldn't that be amazing if, rather than politicians just establishing bodies except taking their report for the photo op and then just sitting on it, that someone would be able to demand accountability that they actually do what was in the report. For example, we still haven't got a formal response from the Australian federal government about the Royal Commission. Remember the Royal Commission report that

was this high into veteran suicide. We still don't know how many of those recommendations they're going to put in place when the stack was that high for the Banking Royal Commission. Again, not many things that were the recommendations actually took place because there's no mechanism to haul people six months or twelve months and he go, hang on

about that thing, what are you doing? Instead? It's left up to people in the media to ask those questions, and of course the politicians know how to move away from it or to distract the rest of the people asking the questions, to say, hey, that one question from that guy over there is really weird. What we're talking you about today is how evil Peter Dutton is. And of course when it comes to accountability in Victoria, there's no greater example of the lack of itn than Andrews

and the behavior in and around COVID. Remember more than seven hundred people died because of the decisions by Andrews and his government around hotel quarantine, and of course no sanctions for anyone. Every single minister or former premier went on to new jobs in the private sector, many of them with jobs of the Grand Prix or all sorts of other places. The only person who didn't get a job was the one who was willing to look at a whistle rather than blow it, and that's the former

health minister. Surprise, surprise, she spoke against the team, so no reward for her and no accountability for everyone else. And as we know, he went on, of course to get a gold medal for, among other things, services to healthcare. Our attention post Queensland is of course all about the United States. We will be there later this week, looking forward to doing shows from there. Now, can I explain to you tonight and I'm going to do this every night until we get there. We are going to talk

about things in America. But the shows are not one hour long America fests, Okay. They will have local guests as you come to expect, like Bromwin and Stephen talking about Australian politics. My editorial will still be the bulk of which about Australian politics. Okay. So if there's something about Albow and the airlines, I'm going to talk about that at the same amount of details I'm going to

talk about stuff in the United States. Okay. So if you see you'll read or see anything on your program guide that we're in the US, don't just assume Wall the war. Paul's going to boor US with data about the US election. We'll have some fun stories and fun things to do in America. We'll have a look at the presidential election. Obviously, on the day it happens, that'll

be the shark. But between now and then, we will keep weaving in the Australian news because that's the reason that you watch us, and I'm so grateful that you always do. So let's talk about what happened since last we spoke. Kamala Harris big rally, thirty thousand people, Beyonce. For some reason, Beyonce did not see She turned out as a mother, not as a performer. Michelle Obama was at another rally, because apparently celebrities distract you from how

terrible the candidate is. Where Michelle Obama said this weird theme, Pamela.

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She's putting herself out there, fearlessly, facing down even her harshest critics. She's seeking out Republicans to find common ground, and unlike her opponent, she's not ducking interviews or powering in safe spaces only with fawning audiences. Now she is showing us what a sane, stable leader looks like.

Speaker 1

Trump is dodging interviews. On Friday, he did a three hour interview with Joe Rogan, which, by the way, has

had twenty five million people watch it on YouTube. Millions more have listened to it, either with people ripping it off from YouTube or through Spotify and the podcast version of things, which means the smarter play was to sit down and do an interview that's literally observed by millions of people in a weekend, as opposed to the star studded rallies that really don't have much of an echo. As for the latest numbers, they remain the same all the swing states, So the averages are still in favor

of Trump. In Arizona, he's pretty clear there. However, it's less than a point in Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina. If like me, that gives you confidence because they always undercount his vote by a couple of percent, that's why you think that he's about to win. But I do want to put a data point here to tell you why everyone keeps saying that it's close. New York Times poll, Yes, I know, but still let me explain New York Times

pole Nationally it's level. That's great for Trump. Okay, normally the Democrat has to be at least two to three points in front for them to have enough of a way of getting vote in the electoral College. But I do want you to know this. When it comes to men, Trump is beting Harris fifty five to forty one. When it's women and there are more female voters than male voters in the United States, it's fifty four to forty two in favor of Harris. When it comes to young voters,

there's a twelve point advantage for Harris. When it comes to people between the ages of thirty to forty four, there's a five point advantage for Harris. Trump is winning because forty five to sixty four year old are backing him, and they're doing so by the best part of the seven points there and people over the age of sixty five. You'd think this would be Trump's biggest No, it's not Harris winning there. So that's why Democrats think they are still in with a shot. Definitely not in the shots.

The Queensland Labor Party goodbye God for at least four years, fingers crossed. We will talk about that I made here in Brisbane, as well as the dipping Premier incoming Jared Bly plus the rest of the days news and some bold predictions for a week again. I'm glad you're here. Big night here in Bristol. All right, let's get right into it now. Linda Scott, she's free to say whatever she wants. She of course is a former counselor in the city of Sydney. She's later to her bootstraps, good

on her coming on this evening. And Lisa Godard is here in Brucebane. She was on the radio with four WEC last night, and of course a doning Media is her company, which I'm sure he's gonna be very busy. And then next sort of while Lisa, what do you think why do you think what happened happened yesterday?

Speaker 5

I think David Christophiley started this four years ago. He was so disciplined on his messaging. Now, you know, Paul, that's part of what I do. And look, he's a journalist. He understands how important it is to be a clear, concise communicator and.

Speaker 1

He was that.

Speaker 5

And I think if you tracked this over the past four years, he very much set the agenda. But Labour then had to fight on so we were talking about how we were talking about health, coster living and crime. Boy was crime a big one?

Speaker 1

Well, let's be honest, four years ago Frecklington at some point sort of discovered and tried to talk about it. But the way crusal fully Again, the reality is governments are booted out. Oppositions don't.

Speaker 5

Right.

Speaker 1

However, the way that they once they've decided to boot out, they look and go do I trust this person to take over? And because of that relentless presentation, it meant that was the case. Linda. Obviously, I understand the disappointment, and being a friend, I'm never going to rub anything in here, right, but why do you think Labor lost?

Speaker 6

Look, congratulations to David chrisifully and the LMP team. You know, he's clearly won the election and that is a clear fact and he deserves congratulations for that. I do think though, this is not the outcome that the polls predicted, and it's not the outcome that most Australians who were watching the Queensland election intently predicted, and for that also congratulations are owed to Stephen Miles. Let's not forget the last wipeout of Labor in twenty seventeen had Labor reduced to

seven seats. People were at the beginning of the Queensland election campaign predicting that kind of wipeout, and so to see the election be so close, to see the LNP win by so few seats and so many still hanging in the balanced Labor looks like maywell win seats back from the LNP and the Greens. It's a remarkable result for Stephen Miles, and I think he really will go down as a Labor legend, given the circumstances under which he came in and the kind of campaign he ran.

Speaker 1

Okay, the problem is, right, if you actually looked at the twelve seats they needed to win, there was places like Bunderberg that was literally the last election, fifteen votes in it. Guess what, Labour's probably going to hold Bunderberg. Okay, But then you flip to the next seat, the next seat,

the next seat. You start getting up to eight percent around the sort of eight seats that are needed, let alone the ten, let alone the twelve, and then the places that have taken them beyond that in the majority are much bigger margins. So look, if someone somewhere said they're going to be reduced labor's going to be reduced to the size of a torago. Well guess what they have no idea what they were talking about. I'm quickly

scanning my memory. No, don't believe it was me. But still I don't know what they're talking about to get to government because of how bad the last election was. Really they were never a chance of winning twenty five thirty seats because the margins were so.

Speaker 5

Mass And I think what was interesting is that we all knew that the regions would be so important, but Fortress Brisbane LMP started to crack that. Look at Redcliffe, so there are a number of seats there that we were watching last night and go, well here they go. And look, it was a nervous time as you watch this in those first few hours until pre polling numbers started to come through, it was looking very dicey in a few of those areas. Weren't sure which way it would go.

Speaker 1

And that's why Miles made the most of that period of doubt. Again, right, the count and election ninety is different than the result. Okay, the result is that they have lost at least thirteen, maybe up to fifteen change of government majority government. That's the way that it goes.

Let's talk about the Greens. To me, I think the biggest factor, apart from lots of reasons why people are annoyed with them, was that they lost a seat, maybe a second because there's no LNP preferences in those seats. It's like fifteen twenty thousand votes that didn't end up going their way because the Greens as an overall number in Queensland exactly the same vote.

Speaker 2

As for years.

Speaker 5

But let's talk about Maywa. So Maywi is a seat that takes in UQ. So there's seventeen schools and there's UQ University of Queensland in that seat, and it's part of the federal seat of Ryan. Now Natasha Winter was running there for the LMP. Now at the moment she is winning on the primary vote against the Greens. So it's down to the wire on that one. Let's say it could be this goes to your point earlier, it could be ten days before that seat is decided. And

right now you've got Labor preferencing the Greens. Well that's what she's up against, right So she's been out there, she's been fighting the good fight. But it could be Labor preferences that then push the Greens into that seat.

Speaker 1

Well, this is the thing I mean, Linda, philosophically, you chose the left of the Labor Party, which ends up fighting with the Greens. Okay, the Greens say that at a federal level. Oh, look, because we won three seats in Queensland, we're on our way through. But again that's preferences, and at a time of a change of government. Again, I just think, you know, let's not put a stake through the Green's heart and pretend you know, ding dong,

the witch is dead. It ain't. The vote is exactly the same as it was four years ago, and they have thousands of people that they think can mobilize at a federal election. But the reality is is that labor in Queensland is a lot leftier than labor in Cambrey's. So do the Greens have a different offering when they're going up against well, yes, a left wing version of the Labor Party in our but not as far left as they are.

Speaker 6

Look, I think the Greens are going to get a big whack up call after this Queensland election. I mean, it is of course the case that during the federal election they won three federal seats right in the heart of Brisbane, and the fact that they appear to have potentially be at risk of losing a seat and not gaining any seats. I mean that is not a result that Adam Bandt was predicting. It's not a result that

the Greens were predicting. It's really quite remarkable. And they will, still, should they win seats, rely on a complex flow of preferences to get there. So, for example, in the South Brisbane seat that they're still having a look at whether or not they might win, the Greens will rely on one nation flow to get the Liberals higher than Labor in order to get themselves over the line.

Speaker 10

Right.

Speaker 6

So let's be clear, they've had a very bad result, much worse than predicted. And it is remarkable given they have three federal seats where you'd think those federal members would be out doing the task to kind of convert people, but actually they're not doing that and being completely ineffective. And I think this is a powerful message for the Greens when you continue to attack labor, when you block progressive outcomes like the housing affility to be when you when you attack.

Speaker 10

Them run records.

Speaker 1

If he was a greed go backwards, free lunch fifty this come on.

Speaker 6

He had a great, great labor cost of living policies. They're not Greens policies.

Speaker 9

They're great labor.

Speaker 6

This is going to be our bow policy.

Speaker 1

Almost going with free lunches to the next election.

Speaker 6

Look, these are great labour Queensland cost of living policies and the Greens have really, I think, not gone as well as anyone would have predicted before this election. If they're to do as well even as they did, they're going to be having to get there based on one nation preferences to get the Liberal.

Speaker 1

Vote again, tearing up the Greens. We all know how I feel about the Greens. I'm just saying the people who are and I've seen it on the telly, they're all ding dong, they're gone. You know, the exact same vote, Okay, exact same voight where it was important, the preferences important, but they didn't drop by six points.

Speaker 5

References impulsory preferential voting.

Speaker 1

Well that's going to go.

Speaker 5

Really it pually needs to get rid of.

Speaker 1

Get rid of that, needs to change the financial gerrymander. All that will happen in a second. We've got the incoming Deputy premier here standing by so quickly. Who do you think is winning the American election right now? Not who's going to win in eight days time. It's just we have to say right now and what data would push you in that direction?

Speaker 5

I think Trump, and I think you've seen a Michelle Obama out there campaigning for Kamala. Kamala is losing the men, the African American men, hispatic men particularly. I think he was really smart to do to do Rogan because that will talk to them. I couldn't believe Michelle Obama is saying what you say.

Speaker 1

He's dodging interviews while he's just doing a three and a bit India three and a bit interview.

Speaker 5

Thank god as it wasn't hurt.

Speaker 1

Linda, give me the bumper stick and reason why you think Harris is winning on a data point.

Speaker 6

Look, I think Kamala has still just got the odds. But we're saying the tech billionaires swinging hard in the newspapers they own and across platforms behind Trump, and that is really influential and it's trying to influence the vote in a pretty scary way.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, what about fifty one intelligence agencies pretending something that was real wasn't. But anyway, again, I'm not rubbing saltman the wounds. Be a good friend, Be a good friend. Yeah, thank you ladies, so appreciate it. All right, quick break back. We're more here on Port Murray Live incoming Deputy Premier a Queensland. What to expect in the first one hundred days. Jared Blay is the Deputy leader of the LMP. Come

tomorrow will be the Deputy Premier of Queensland. He's in the man cave here in Bricebane.

Speaker 10

Congratulations, thank you mate, and great to have you and Brucebane.

Speaker 1

Let's make it permanent, yes, darling, please, the citizenship is on its way the mountain. You had to climb, all right. And I was trying to sort of talk about this with people on and off last night. The idea that fifteen percent seats were going to swing was garbage, right, you had to get to the twelve. And now you pass the twelve. The numbers started to get high. Okay, but you are now in a clear majority. So all

that rubbish from miles last night. You're in government and you will govern with the majority because you have one.

Speaker 10

Well, we think we're at about fifty three.

Speaker 11

Now forty seven seat majority you need for a majority, and we're at about fifty three. We think we've just taken Cook off the Labor Party as well, Paul.

Speaker 10

So you know, we've always said it was going to be a mountain.

Speaker 11

We were on thirty four members of Parliament and we needed to get forty seven for.

Speaker 10

A majority, so it was always, you know, a huge climb.

Speaker 11

So you know what David cris A fully and the team have been able to pull off last night with Queensland is getting behind us and wanting change a fresh start, is an incredible feat because we were starting from way back here.

Speaker 1

And also many of the games and again, look it's just the way labor works, right, so pleap well, plase, you know, clip it up and do what you want with it. But still they have so many natural advantages in Queen's Lane because of how long they've been here, their relationships with the existing media, their existing relationships with

the beginning, all of that. Right, So you're taking on, frankly, an entire establishment, right, So now that you become the government, how do you make sure that there's not sort of a residual of that establishment that's loyal to getting rid of you rather than the people who will help you achieve what people hire you to do.

Speaker 10

Be a good government and be a good center right government.

Speaker 11

Bring people with you on a journey and then I think people will you know if you do that and people rewarded in four years time, plus a few other things. Get rid of the financial gerryman to the Labor Party of created in the electoral system, and bring back optional preferential voting. You know, Labor Party with this big scare campaign during this election, we're trying to make it all about oh, you're preferencing them, you're preferencing them.

Speaker 10

We don't want to preference anyone, yeah, correct, make it.

Speaker 11

Optional preferential voting and if you want preference someone at the ball of box, that's your choice Queensland. But if not, you don't have to do it. But of course the Labor Party.

Speaker 10

Wanted the Greens preferences.

Speaker 11

And you know our success for this election wasn't just in the regions. Like you look at the seat of Maywa in inner City Brisbane where it is on knife edge between not Labor and the.

Speaker 10

Greens, but l and P and the Greens. Now it's knife fetch. So we're not going to call anything on that.

Speaker 11

But the Greens have probably lost one seat to the Labour Party in South Brisbane and so you could end up with situation where the Greens don't have any state members. Now that would be fantastic. I've got to say, have no Greens in the state parliament. I think people are starting to wake up to the anarchist organization they are and how extreme they are.

Speaker 10

They're not environmental group anymore, They're just extreme.

Speaker 1

Now. I don't know what you're allowed to say about this, but I'm going to ask you anyway. Okay, So new Broom formally locked in tomorrow when you're sworn in, but today's the day when, no doubt you're sitting around all the rest of it, right, is it a tsunami of people running at you right now with binders and PowerPoint presentations? What are some of the practical things about changing from potential to actual government that happened?

Speaker 11

So David will be sworn in this premiere at eleven o'clock tomorrow, I'll be sworn in his deputy premiere and we'll split the portfolios up just so. Then gives us a few days to look at the ministry and the portfolios.

Speaker 10

But the public service today were great.

Speaker 11

They were now the binders were there, the briefs were there, I've got to say, and the table was ten meters long of briefs, so we're getting through those.

Speaker 10

But you know, they were so the public servants today were so great.

Speaker 11

They already had prepared one hundred day plan for implementation of our hundred day plan and vision for Queens right.

Speaker 1

So it's not that you have to educate them about what you're doing. They've all read up, they've read the book all the rest of it, and they say, this is your goal, this is how we achieve your.

Speaker 11

Goalcly So they put all the work into that, they've read the LMP's hundred day plan and then they've got the implementation of how to do that over the next hundred days.

Speaker 10

So that was really encouraging.

Speaker 11

And the public servants that I've been speaking to over the last twenty four hours they want they want to work, they want to work from your government and they've just had a bad government for ten years.

Speaker 1

Well that's made the day. I've only got thirty seconds left. On a personal level. Last night, you spoke about family and you spoke about volunteers. There are so many people involved in an election and their hearts all breaking half when you lose and they saw when they win. But they're always with you.

Speaker 10

Yeah, oh Bill, they are mate. And you know it.

Speaker 11

Nearly brought a tea to my l last night when I was talking about the volunteers, because without our volunteers, the Liberal National Party in Queensland doesn't have a Union movement. And I've got to say some of the thuggish behavior. So I was at Pummerstone where they were attacking our twenty two year old Arianna Dulan, who will be the youngest member elected to Parliament, and they are attacking her

because of her age. I was copying abuse on the booth yesterday at Palmerstone and so it just makes it more satisfying that not only did we win government, but we won the Sea of Palmerstone off that bullying behavior

from the Union movement. So to all our volunteers, all our members in the Liberal National Party, I've got to say, from the bottom of day, to my heart, David and my heart, thank you because with out your support handing out the head of OKAS, we wouldn't have had the great success we did last night.

Speaker 1

Well, good man, good luck, joy, congratulation. She is jeb Bler. He is about to become the Deputy Premier of queens Akos. Guess what they got rid of the Miles government. Goodbye, flushed the domestos. I'll even send you some, all right, and you can put it on the office behind you, all right, quick break and then we'll be back in the Royal Report. See you tomorrow From the man Cake

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