From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray live speak Shun. I'm looking forward to it. Thank you so much for watching us this Wednesday night problem with Vishop Stephen Conroy in a couple of minutes time. Remember you sent me and mlpots Gonews dot com. Do you now you've heard today what happened in the Senate? But can I just have my say on it? What a bunch of sooks Fatima Payman was and Lydia Thorpe as well. If for whatever reason this is the first time you're hearing about it,
let me see you the fast version. Fatima Payman has dual citizenship. She has duel citizenship to Australia, a country that she came to as a refugee in Afghanistan, the country of which she left and therefore became a refugee. She cannot renounce her citizenship from Afghanistan because the Taliban won't let her. But of course if you have dual citizenship in Australia, then that means you can't be part of our parliament. People like Jackie Lamby learnt this lesson.
Remember she had to leave the parliament before being re elected to the parliament and in every single time there has been a by election, either the candidate who was booted out for this technicality won their place back or the party that they represented won their place back. So Australians do not believe that it is an ultimate disqualifier. But the law is clear that if you have dual citizenship,
you can't serve in the parliament. Fatima Payment is able to serve in the Parliament because no one is willing to put her to the test that other dual citizens have had to go through. Now, none of that is an allegation. All of that is fact, and all of that is by her own admission. Well, today in the Parliament there was an attempt by Pauline Hansen to refer this to the relevant authorities to trigger the potential and seemingly obvious removal of Fatima Payment from the Parliament. Now,
of course she has her own political party. Now what is the Australian's Voice or whatever garbage that is. She thinks that she'll be able to get people elected to the next election, or she'll be able to get a run up of what five and a bit years until she's actually up for grabs. But remember it's not Pauline Hanson who started this story. It was the Labor Party, because the Labor Party knew that this was a scenario
where Fatima Payman had dual citizenship. But remember she was sitting so low on the Labor ticket in Western Australia, no one thought she'd win. But because the Labor Party did particularly well in Western Australia, she came along for the ride because she was part of the governing party. Nobody was going to rock the boat. And then of course she jumped out of the boat and Labor itself
started talking about going after her on this subject. So again today in Parliament there was an attempt to do what apparently the Labor Party knew when it came to this senator and her status about whether she can or can't be in the Parliament. Let's start with Pauline Hanson trying to take this to the next level, the.
Urgent investigation in the Senate payment's eligibility to sit in this Parliament under Section forty four. Australians deserve to know that every member of this Chamber is eligible under the Constitution, no exceptions. Senator payment situation through Uchair raises serious concerns if she had been elected during the citizenship crisis of twenty sixteen seventeen, there is no doubt her case would have been referred to the High.
Court to review.
So all of this makes sense now, right in fatim a payment claims I can't get out of this situation because the Taliban won't let me out of this situation. But her response today and that of Lydia Thorpe, was ridiculous. They turned this stuff up to eleven and then try to get it to twelve and even thirteen if they possibly could. How's this for a ridiculous response to the matter that was being raised.
The fact that you would say, just weeks ago to Senator.
Perouki to Pakistan, you're not just vindictive, mean nasty, you bring disgrace to the human race. Really, honestly, you're a disgrace to the human race because somebody is saying you should be held to the same standard as every other person in the Senate and every other person in the lower House. Now, this clearly is a new type of politics that particularly the identitarians love to play, which is as soon as you hold them to the standard of
everybody else, that's when you're a racist. That's when you're sexist, that's when you're a homophobe. Now again, she had every right to stand there and say, look, I'd love to be able to fix this situation. Clearly I love this country. But if the Taliban won't let me off the hook, sorry, that's it. Then you sit down, that's it. But instead trying to create a moment to distract from the central issue that she herself has admitted is the problem, it
doesn't work. And also, these identitarian politics politicians need to understand that the vast majority of the country does not share their hyperbolic views about race, about sex, about gender, and about faith. We deal with people based off their first name and their character, not from where they come
or what they look like. No matter how many times when these people are being held to the same standards as everybody else, they claim what the motivation is behind somebody saying that they should be held to the same standards. You see, this has always got under my skin as a person who has used words for a living and given an opinion passionately for a long time. Now, I absolutely realize that when I say something, somebody can say
something back just as passionately. But you do not get the opportunity to tell me what was in my head when I was thinking about what I was going to say. What I said is what I said. What you think it means? Is you making up motivation? The senator was not done with a performance that shows herself not to be emotionally mature enough to sit in our federal Parliament.
Perhaps the very reason the Labor Party knew that this was a person who could be on the ticket because of her passion, could be on her ticket, perhaps because of the story that she brings and so many bring to this country. But perhaps they knew she wasn't ready for prime time because she's a passionate person. Yes, in her early twenties, but as we all know, the person we were in our early twenties is a lot different than what we would be by our mid thirties, forties,
fifties or even older. This is not an emotionally mature person reacting to a parliamentary procedure that is not racist.
What is it?
Oh it's not racist. Oh, somebody bring.
The dictionary, because Santa Hanson does not know the definition of racism.
Again, the idea that because you say, hey, this person who by their own admission has dual citizenship and therefore potentially to be disqualified from being able to sit in the Parliament, the same standard under which multiple members of the Lower House and some members of the Senate had to give up their careers or have their careers interrupted. Like Jackie Lamby. Nobody said it was racist when it was applying to Jackie Lamby. Why is it racist because
it applies to Fatoma Payment. Now there's some danger in me even saying what I am saying tonight, because unlike Fatima Payment, unlike Jackie Lamby, unlike Lydia Thorpe, unlike Pauline Hanson, I don't have parliamentary privilege where you can stand up and say defamatory things like the senator said about Pauline Hansen, things that if she had said in the public arena
there could be potential legal consequences. Now again, the door is open if Fatima Payman would like to come into the man Cave or our studio in Canberra and try to explain what I clearly can't see here. But I think what we all saw today was a ridiculous performance, and that's what it was. It was this volcanic performance of emotion and accusation that may well have worked at the peak of the Twitter movement when it was called Twitter, but in the world of x where we are in
twenty twenty four, this stuff just rings hollow. Of course, somebody very well practiced in all of this was Lydia Thorpe, who decided, here's an opportunity for me to ring the same damn bell that she does at any chance she gets.
It's an absolute vile act against Senator Payment and I'll have her back and any other black or brown woman in this place.
What does that mean Jackie Lamby had to give it up over dual citizenship. Fatima Payman is not defined by her racial identity in this question. It's about the dual citizenship. Now, maybe she will be able to convince an authority a call to somebody else that look, I'd love to give it up, but I can't give it up because the country that needs me to give it up won't let me give it up. Maybe that's a way, or maybe the absolute technicality is I'm sorry. Even though that's the case,
you can't sit in the Parliament. But of course Lydia wasn't done, and the media was there. Click click click film, film, film, write it all down.
Where's Hanson's legitimate claim to be in this country? Where'd she come from? Who's her ancestors? So let's talk about section forty four for the white people who came here on.
Boats again, and I forget it, I'm talking about her, which is what she wants, the woman who hates the institution but loves getting paid by the institution, loves the power of the institution, but hates everything about it.
Who do these people think that they are convincing to their cause?
Now?
Lydia Thorpe is a politician who has said that she doesn't want to seek re election after the next federal election. She's here for at least another three years, and given Senate timings, it might be slightly longer than that. But because she won under the cover of the Greens and then pretty obviously was ready to jump early, so she
could be this character for the next five years. This is the character that she's been, the supposed side of politics, and this particular politician who allegedly wants to bring people together. But every chance she gets here, it is roll the verbal grenade in and here we go again, over and over and over again. Well, as the vote was taking
place to refer the senator. Now interestingly, Labor, who had spoken in one way, seemed to vote another, but still lydia Thorpe then takes the defeated motion and according to the Guardian, I have to be very clear, I want to quote their headline on this appearing to throw paper at Pauline Hansen. Does that look like appearing or she actually did it? And then of course the fingers up as she leaves the chamber and now very cleverly, technically, once you go past the door, that's not the chamber,
So she did it in the champion'd be different. The response, of course, was that she is suspended, not allowed to participate in the parliamentary debate, not allowed to vote, not allowed to step onto the floor for the rest of the week, which is one more day, maybe two more days. But because things like the Misinformation Bill have disappeared, largely, everything that's going to happen and set in the Senate for the next couple of days will go through on
bipartisan support. They don't need her vote. So that's when Labor decided.
You've gone too far.
You've gone too far. By the way, could somebody Please explain to me how an elected politician in this country is able to say what Senator Thorpe said today in Canberra without there being some sort of a consequence to her ability to continue to sit inside our federal Parliament.
They talk about harmony, they talk about reconciliation, they talk about bringing this country together, yet they don't walk the talk. They allow racism to continue to hurt us and everybody else in this country who is not white. What do they want a civil war in this country?
Honestly, seriously, think about some of the characters that we've had through the Upper House of recent years. What would the collective response be of the canber Press gallery to a politician saying civil war? Now, there's not going to be one. There ain't going to be one because the extreme majority of Australians again don't care from whence you come and what you believe in. They deal with you
face to face. We all know someone from somewhere else we are or someone from somewhere else, including Lydia Thorpe. The reality of what she's selling is ridiculous, But just like payment, it all goes the way it does. Now the Parliament has shown that it has the capacity to turn around and say sorry, you do actually have to have a certain series of minimum standards to be able to turn up in the Parliament and to vote in
the parliament and to speak in the parliament. Now she's an elected person, so she can't be booted out of the parliament. But every time she does this stuff, why is she not suspended by the Parliament for that sitting week. I'm sure she'd loved to go off to a court and work out whether they have the legal power to
do so at some point in time. But how is our politics any better for somebody talking about civil war or making accusations of racism when somebody says the rule that says you can't have dual citizenship to sit in the Parliament, which affected Jackie Lambey, may well apply to the senator who, by her own admission, is in a dual citizenship scenario, one she doesn't want to be in,
one she's trying to get out of. But still, remember when Nick Xenophon went through this, nobody was screaming racism when they were trying to do it to Josh Friedenberg who saying racism, the reality is whether you like or dislike and clearly the Australian people do not have a problem with dual citizenship. Why because, as I said, everyone who got booted out either came back or the party not.
None of them lost seats, no one lost ground. But because Fatima Payment made her decision to walk away from the Labor Party and in my view, has no statistical way of getting back into the Parliament, just like Lydia Thorpe that somehow everything has to be treated differently. This is outrageous, It is ridiculous, and I get it, evil white man on television talking about it, but I don't care. We've got to see past this garbage. We're going to
call this stuff out. But you know what, the first sign, the first sign of stepping away from this sort of inflammatory garbage or rewarding this inflammatory garbage, is that if the media wanted to, they could apply the same lack of interest that they do to other members of the Senate cross Bench. You don't see many interviews with Jerriet Reddick, do you. You don't see appearances on Insiders by Malcolm Roberts. You don't see much about Ralph Babbitt either, do you.
Now these are all legitimately elected members of the cross Bench who have the ability to vote whichever way they want, but the media just pretends they don't exist, push them to one side, no talkie talking about those people, but the lady who talks about civil war gets profiled on sixty minutes. I'm not even going to get involved in
double standards and all the rest of it. The media make their choices, and I've got a feeling that many of them make their choices because they disagree with the three that I just showed you who they ignore, and parts of them agree with some of the stronger parts of Senator Thorpe and Senator Payments Mark. There was a huge pole that dropped today and it tells us yet another building block on a foundation of the potential removal of Anthony Albernesi as our Prime Minister and Labor as
the government of the country. Now, every time I say this, because I know there's plenty of people who are just sitting there waiting, because I've said things like I just said, just sitting waiting for the first technical mistake to run off to the umpire. I don't think that it's going to be a one term government because until I see data about the teals the Liberal Party and National Party most likely don't get near the seventy six seats required
to become a majority government but minority. Who knows but three issues have absolutely buried Anthony Albernesi. They have since almost day one. The bloke who promised to make everything better, what cost of living on every possible count. The bloke who says that he thinks about the little guy every day we now has his hand out for an upgrade
when he's going on personal flights. And the bloke loves spending other people's money, for example himself and every other MP not one, not two, but three pay rises since the last election, thirty thousand extra public servants, let alone the new planes, and all the other money that's been pittled up against the wall, including that referendum of four
hundred and fifty million dollars. Well at the heart of federal elections, be they are in Australia, the UK, New Zealand, or of course the United States, where this question became crystallized all those years ago by Ronald Reagan in a presidential debate, is are you better off this election than
you were at the last election? Pol drops today from Redbridge, asking the question of our Australians better off than they were two and a half years ago, fifty seven percent of people say no. The darker the red the stronger the feeling. But you can see that fifty seven percent of people say no, just thirty one percent, which is about the labor primary, say they're better off than they were since this government came to power. Have a look at it. When it comes to the amount of money
that people earn. If you earn a thousand dollars or less, sixty three percent of people say no. Two way, you're better off since this bloke became Prime minister. People were in between one and two thousand dollars a week, again, sixty three percent no. People earning between two and three thousand dollars a week fifty seven percent no. The only people who seemingly support are those who are at the absolute top end of the market, and of course they're
the ones who didn't get a taxcut. But anyway, Also, if you want to slice this a different way, let's just go through the old demographics of age, where you can see that eighteen to sixty five plus all of them, more people believe they are worse off than they were when this government to power. The same for men and the same for women, despite the fact that apparently the Liberal Party has a problem with women. What about where
people live. It doesn't matter if you live in the cities, in the suburbs, in a regional area or a rural area. The extreme majority of people believe they are not better off than they were since this government came to power. These are the building blocks of a shocker on an election night, one that the press gallery will say doesn't exist. But they said that about Harris and the Democrats. But apparently the smart heads in the Labour Party, so don't worry.
None that applies to us is the government focused on the right priorities. No one supports that proposition. In fact, your age, your gender, or all voters believe that the government is not focused on the right priorities. In fact, just thirty percent of all voters say that the government is focused on the right priorities. Thirty one percent of eighteen to thirty four year olds, twenty nine and twenty seven, between thirty five and sixty four, thirty percent of people
over the age of sixty five. But of course everything doesn't matter again to the next federal election because Uga Booger, black and white music, cut cut, cut, cut cut, Spooky, Spooky, Peter Dutton's coming.
Peedy Dutt, Peter Dutte, Peda Dutton And they've got the dirt unit ready to find all of the information that everyone who's tried to find stuff on Dutton internally inside the Liberal Party are outside for years, has never been able to turn it over.
But no, no, no, the Prime Minister's dirt Unit's going to find it. Well, are you sitting down, because according to this poll, when people were asked is Dutton ready for government? More people said yes than no, More men say yes than women who say no, but almost fifty to fifty on women. People who's qualification was leaving BEFO year twelve, they believe that Dutton would be there by seventeen points. People who got to year twelve either at school or
after school, getting that equip getting that qualification. He's up by three The only people who don't like any university degree people, and even then at single digits. So good luck Albo with your dirt unit. Good luck pouring sugar into the year at the press gallery who love the whole new arrangements they currently have, how many people. How many ways can you cut that we're worse off than
we were when this bloke became the Prime minister. This guy's priorities are wrong and people are now seeing not just an opposition but an alternative government. Those three strikes mean generally you're out. As we know, bloody hot in parts of the country, particular focus in and around Sydney over the past couple of days. Apparently it'll get better
bit of rain into the future here. But yet another day where we are a quarter of the way into the two twenty first century and the leader of the most populous state in the country is talking to us as if we're in the middle of a war. Have a listen to this.
The government's asking individual households and businesses to, wherever possible, wherever it's safe, consider not using energy intensive appliances between the hours of three pm and eight pm this afternoon. The reason for that is that solar production in the energy market starts to come off from three pm at exactly the same time as people return home from work.
So if you can not run your pool filter, not run your dishwasher, not run your washing machine this afternoon between three and eight you'll help the grid.
My answer is bugger all that you get charged either way. The Energy Minister similarly speaking to you as if we're in the middle of the blitz and we're trying to conserve energy. Of course it is not wartime. It is a order the way into the twenty first century, and governments are both persuasions in every state have made a bet, and one that results in them having to say this to us. On a hot dark they.
Can keep their blinds closed and their rooms cooler. As I've said, Sola's going gangbusters at the moment. If you've got air conditioning, go for it as hard as possible and cool down the house before you get home tonight if you can. But if you can turn it up a couple of degrees, that makes a big difference in terms of demand. If you're not in a room, you don't need to have the light on, and if you can do the non essential electricity use wait until they
use the dishwasher until after eight tonight. If you can hold on too that washing, to do it overnight or do it in the morning. That's what we're asking people to do. Every little bit helps.
What rubbish, what patronizing garbage. These people make the decisions that put us into a situation where the electricity grid is so vulnerable that even before summer has started, when it's mid to high thirties, we're not forty six degrees okay, mid to high third onh No, No, it's not going to work out. Quick, pull this plug out, turn that one. No, you get charged for accessing the power grid regardless. So you stay comfortable, you stay safe, and you stay in
the twenty first century. They can turn off all of the lights of Parliament House if they want to. They can get rid of every bit of communication inside the government officers. For those of us who pay our taxes, have bought our appliances and have our homes that we like, comfortable, you stay comfortable. I don't say this is an act of sissicle disobedience or denialism. I just say, no, know, their job is to provide the utilities, but they've made a bet to change the type of provision of the
utility that powers all of those things. So bugger them, not us. Questions are asked about this today in question time where Chris Barwen, a minister who thinks that one day he might be the Prime minister, because if I can get the New so Wales right behind me and not Tony Burke that I'm a chance in a party room. This plug actually thinks he's going to run the country one day. Here's the question. He was asked about the very situation playing out today in the moment populous state.
The Australian Energy market operator is right now scrambling to avoid blackouts by cutting deals with factories to temporarily shut down, and the New South Wales premiere is urging residents I quote, not to run your dishwasher, not to run your washing machine this afternoon, Prime Minister, is this what Labour's planned for?
I quote?
A renewable energy superpower really will look.
Like great point?
You can tell us about yah that the cable that's going to go to Singapore and this incredible thing in twenty years in this way today today you've got premiers talking to people like sculpture.
This is beyond frustrating. I took an oath months ago not to swear as much as I used to, but you can imagine all the words that are screaming my way right now. He was part of the government response to that obvious question, which is an admission of their failure.
Now, as the House is aware, New South Wales is undergoing a lengthy and severe heat wave, which is of course increasing demand on the energy system. When there's a heat wave, energy demand goes up. In addition, mister speaker, in New South Wales, check up, there are five units of coal and gas production that are not operating.
Two of them.
The two of them the opposition, were unexpected breakdowns in coal fire power.
Yes, surprise, surprise, because you run down the main source of power because you have set up an entire incentive structure to invest in anything but it. Before you are able to commit to that new technology, you need the old technology. But guess what, it hasn't been maintained, it hasn't been modernized. So we end up where we are right now. Well done, Chris Bowen. Oh, one day he could be the Prime minister please in his dreams. Of course.
The other one who thinks that he's going to be the prime minister is none other than old made snake Charmer Jim Charmers and today cocker Hoop. Because the inflation numbers are moving in the right direction.
To breaking news now and the latest inflation figures have just.
Dropped monthly inflation flatlining at two point one percent compared with the six it had in front of it when we took office thanks to plunging petrol prices and government energy rebates.
So it remains unchanged and that's defying forecast that it would increase to two point three percent and to cut is exactly what the Albanezi government is hoping for to try and turn its fortunes around.
If we inherited inflation from the previous government with the six in front of it, it's now got a two in front of it.
These people, these people remember inflation with the two in front of the three or four or five or six. It's all added on top of the previous month, of the previous quarter. Right as it explained, right, the prices keep going up, up, up, up up, But for them they play the game that it's going down, down down.
It ain't. And by the way, when the three hundred dollars power bill for every mansion and one bedroom unit in regional Australia is taken off next year after the election, there's not going to be a two hundred and seventy five dollars reduction and energy prices which was their promise. Oh, that's right, it's going back up again by almost half.
So this inflation number that we get is artificial because of firstly the petrol issues and secondly the issues when it comes to electricity and the government are effectively paying off the power companies. The actual service itself is not cheaper, but it's appearing cheaper because you're paying off the power
company before they make a bill. As for everything that is higher than two, that has two in front of it when it comes to inflation, just last month alone, tobacco up twelve points, fruit and veggies eight and a half points, going on holiday, renting a property, paying for your education, paying the insurance on your car, having a drink, having a drink that doesn't have alcohol in it, having gas to cook on a stove, doing something like God forbid,
taking your kids to go and see a movie. All of it up, all of it with not a two in front of it. But of course, surprise, surprise, nothing to see here. It's all going in the right direction. Whistle Dixie, I repeat. The majority of Australians, when asked, say the joint is headed in the wrong direction. They don't have the priorities of normal people and they're worse off than they were when you first started becoming the government. So spin, spin, spin, win over the press gallery, send
the wsapps, have the drinks at the lodge. For those of us in the real world, you are the problem, not the solution. Today we got some information that the police officer whom fired at taser at that ninety three year old woman in a nursing home on the south coast of New South Wales has been found guilty and guilty of manslaughter. Out on bail and sentencing will happen a little later in the week, I believe, or maybe next week. There is to be an inquest into lithium
ion batteries and the fires that they produce. In fact, there have been two hundred and seventy five lithium ion battery fires in New South Wales alone, and some of these have resulted in people's debts, which is why a coronial inquest is going to get involved. Put simply, if you have one of these rechargeable batteries and I like you, and one of these people who's got a battery for seventeen different things, and you know, a leaf blower and maha and all of that business, charge them, but turn
them off when you have charged them. Okay, don't leave things on charge because when they overhead, that's when they explode. That's how the fires take place. And let's talk about for one last time the delusional Democrats, because one hell of a day took place today. You say, it's just about to be Thanksgiving in the United States, so we're as close to a public holiday as we could possibly get.
It's what twenty two days since the American election, and now finally they're willing to tell us what went wrong. Now sure, they're not willing to answer any questions about this. No, Kamala Harris just jumped onto a zoom video with her supporters to say nothing. And she's still serving up the word salads. Jeez, I'm surprised this lady lost.
All that work that you did that was about engaging with other people, engaging with perfect strangers and in their face seeing a neighbor. That has lasting effect. It reminds people that there are leaders like you who care and will bring us together. You lost, and you know, sometimes in the darkest moments, people lose.
Faith in that every swing state.
Are there people out there that feel that way? And you reminded people that yes, there are and there are a lot of us, please, and that strength cannot be taken from us. That is our strength. It cannot be taken from us.
Wow, she started off trying to be a barber in a pantsuit, and she's like a bad opera by the end of it. Oh, she's got more.
And I know this is an uncertain time. I'm clear out about that. I know you're clear out about it. And it feels heavy, and I just have to remind you, don't you ever let anybody take your power from you. You have the same power that you did before November Fifth's you have the same purpose.
You know people who write as motivational messages on you, and you.
Have the same ability to engage and inspire fans to take your power from you.
Okay. As for her staffers, I also did a little interview looking back at what they had to do, including how's this this used to be Biden's campaign manager and then her campaign manager. Imagine trusting your political future to this idiot.
Of course, we lost, so I'm not here to say that that didn't happen. We would much rather not have that happen. But where she campaigned we did way better than the rest of the country, and Donald Trump did worse.
You only campaigned in the swing states and you lost every one of them. Oh but apparently, according to this genius who was Obama's genius, they were never going to win the swing states.
It's always worth reminding people it's really hard for Democrats to win battle ground states. Let's look at Pennsylvania. Twenty five percent of the electorate is liberal, roughly thirty four percent conservative. By the way, in most battleground states that conservative numbers over forty. So in every battleground state there's more conservative than ones.
What are you talking about? The swing states are not just full of Republicans. In fact, let me show you this political genius. People in the seven swing states, five of them have democratic governors. All of them have democratic senators, meaning Democrats can win from one side of the state to the other. Your candidate didn't. And what a surprise. The lady who talks like a future play school presenter was given a fairy give kick in the backside from
the voters of the United States. I'm sorry to put you through seeing her. While Trump copped the bullet, America dodged one go away Cammaala Morenes sing all right, big one for many nights. So let's get straight to our panel, none other than Stephen Conroy. He's just here to help and the carry out champ as always. Broman Bishop Bromin caught on the way through the twenty first century in the Premier of New South Wales. The energy minister in New South Wales is telling people to not do their
dishes because the network might fall over. Well what do you expect.
I mean, people like me have been a certainly a matter of time, and this is what's going to happen, and it is happening, and it'll go on happening. And this is what happens in third world countries. This is what happens when governments can't supply enough electricity for the needs of the nation. Now we're supposed to be first
world country. But this whole rubbish all started with the North South debate when they said back in what ninety two or something, that it was the obligation of the North, who benefited from the exploitation of the South, to.
Give them money.
And isn't that exactly what China said?
Oh, this is first world third world stuff. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
One point three trillion annually. Just pay over the money. It's what it's always been about, and we've had stupid people who've fallen for it. And the Labor Party with mister Bowen and Albanezy. If he believes in anything for anything, I wouldn't know, But mister Bowen thinks that he's I don't know, enlightened and we're all dumb. But what we're getting is what was so inevitable, Steve.
I was told by somebody today, oh look this is you know, unless it's an actual blackout, it's not a problem. Nobody's going to think about it. Well, normal people in my life that are not as politically engaged as you and I today were acting like it was sort of COVID times and saying we can't have the air conditioner on why because the premier said so this connects with
normal people and it is a failure of service. At what point do the people that have demanded change recognize there's only so much of it you can have without problems like this.
Well, I think the New South Wales the state's problems go back a little bit further than Chris Minn.
I don't worry. I gave it last night and gave it to last night.
Taken decisions taken by the Perrete government, and you can't leave, you know, Matt keeneor by himself. That was a government, a cabinets. They took these decisions. They closed down power stations, they started phasing the amount. Now and the good news, the good news, the good news is that one of the first things Mens did, we said we might have to extend the life of the power station was being closed out. Okay, very clear. The Men's government, the Men's
government has been doing the right thing. It's been dealt a hand, you know, it's the cards in its hand are what it has to do. We've all been committed. Peter Dutton's still saying net zero by twenty fifty. Okay, he hasn't pulled out of announces pulling out of the
Climate treaty like Donald Trump has. So let's stop try and pretend that the Liberal Party have not been front and center in helping create What you're claiming is this catastically the Men's government, nor your friend, your friend Matt k your friend Mat Okay, put us on a pa put us.
That's got us a trick, that's my trick. But your mate, You're well played. All right. Now, this this this this red Bridge pole that came out today showing I'm looking
forward to this. I'm looking forward to this, Steve, and you're going to come first off on this one right of all of the numbers that I presented, which is the one that as a hardcore labor man you would be most concerned about about either a perception or a reality that you have to turn around between now and whenever that election is.
Well.
I think the pole goes to a coor issue that I think Donald Trump highlighted successfully, which is are you
better off you know, in the last four years? And the answer clearly in the US was no. And I think all of the issues that Redbridge look at today drive that core perception and that remains the challenge for the Albanese government to try and make sure people understand not get distracted by Peter Dutton's clever, very clever political tactes of moving around from here talking about immigration, blocking this bill, creating a crisis, keeping the government off balance.
I think the government needs to be focused, and I said clever political opposition tactics.
People continue to say you're very focused to them, you're very focused. Are you in for some sort of special of water they host to get dinner in your honor?
I'm not aware of, not that I'm aware of.
This is the heat to help.
They might be, they might they might be hosting it, but they haven't invited me to it. As all I would say so, But I think I think that those core issues identified by red Bridge a genuine concern for the Albany's government going forward over the next four to six months, and that needs to be the absolute focus
that the on. I think Labor's done a good job in taking the debate around away from some of those cost of living issues with a couple of important positions around getting those visa changes, and you've seen the Stephen built about over under sixteens.
I think Take Charge says the economy is doing well and people are struggling to buy their groceries. They are insulted, they're angry, and they say this government has no idea. That's why a majority of people say the country is going in the wrong direction.
And I mean, we're agreeing on this is a.
Government that squandered so much money and so much time on the voice issue. It had no agenda, it wanted to implement, except mister Burke, who wanted to give everything to the unions so that when the next stout comes up, he gets the union vote correct so he can become leader. Other than that, nothing have they done nothing? And they presided over a drop in the standard of living?
Two surpluses? Two surpluses? Can we get the money all Australian tax cuts all Australia and energy reby thousand care ga results. They've done a percent.
They've done done nothing and the surplaces are funrowing because.
You need to get a new playblk. Okay, it's the same bromin, same sentence every week.
Yeah, but hang on, hang on, hand hand. Here's where I think Bromen is on some very solid ground. I just was doing some rough mats, and I did mats in space at school, So double check my numbers here. Okay, the undecideds on this question of are you better off than you were two and a bit years ago? Okay, it's fifteen percent of people aged eighteen to thirty four, it's ten percent of people aged thirty five to forty nine,
it's fifty percent. So it's thirteen percent of fifty to sixty four, and it's ten percent of sixty five and over. What that means is that if all of the undecideds moved to I am better off than I was two and a half years ago, Labor would be losing by twenty two points with people between thirty nine and forty nine, twenty six points fifty to sixty four, and thirty two points by people sixty five and over. If and we
all know it basically goes fifty to fifty. If one hundred percent of undecideds go your way and you're steal that far down, that's the beginnings of a massive election loss.
Yes it is. And I've said all along that Peter Dutton is a man who can win this election. And when people look at him, they say, yeah, I can rely on that bloke. They look at Alberanisi and they say, what is he stand for? Is just Albo the trot who likes fighting tories.
Nothing like message discipline. It's okay to say the same thing every week. It's called message discipline and it ends up proving out to be correct. All right, last one here I showed before the staffers, and then the CA ed it in Kamala Harris. Now I get it that for some reason. You know, there's some sort of magical reason that they're not going to throw her under the bus because they think she might still be powerful by this time next year. It ain't going to be the case.
Here's the thing, Stephen, When you lose, you have to say, maybe our plan was wrong, maybe our tactics were wrong. But to turn around and say, well, swing stots are really hard to win when in all of them they've got a senator, or in most of them they've got a governor. They're off in La la land. These are the people running the joint. They've got no idea what's going on.
Look, I get that Kamala has to give some pastoral care to our core Democrat voters. But the best thing she can do is just say she's not running in four years time. I get those staffers, they've all got to find jobs. They've all got to be seen to be loyal along the way and not wanting to blame themselves. You know, look in the mirror, blame Kamala. Look at the posters. They need to understand Kamala needs to bow out now she there is not a viable candidate going forward.
Yeah, I'm in trouble. The shortest version possible to the question.
Bottom line is all parties that lose try and go through irrationalities. It wasn't as bad as we think it is, and really there is hope. But this was a thrashing and I agree with Steve and she's got to get out of the race.
Thank you, guys, do appreciate it. Look forward to seeing you all again next week. A very special story for you before we're done here on Paul Murray Live, eleven minutes away from the late Debate. You always send me an email, Paul, Let's go Newes dot com. Three. I love the Shine Awards because they celebrate women in regional Australia and Cadie Page, together with Penny Fowler, the great people of Harvey Norman put together this award to honor
exceptional women who hold communities together. And I'm very pleased to say that Danny Mason Kinder is the overall winner of this year's Shine Awards and she joins us now. Congratulations mate, I think we both would agree that we would hope that there wasn't the reason to be here. It all comes out of family tragedy. But congratulations on turning what was the horrific loss of a daughter into something that resulted in you being recognized today. Congratulations, Thank you very much, Paul.
Thanks.
We're talking here about that Be kind of Foundation. Give us an idea about what it does today. It's obviously a long journey getting it to where it is today. But what does the Bee kind of Foundation do?
So the Big kind of Foundation empowers and inspires children to really just become kind of more empathetic and more compassionate. And what we do is we put it's all about prevention and early interventions. So instead of waiting for mental health issues or bullying or know anything to arise, we try and get in early, teach the children a kindness, compassion and really stop stop these kind of behaviors before they start.
Tell me about your beautiful girl, Billy.
I don't know we've got long enough, Paul.
There's never long enough. You know. In the blurbs that talks about her smile and spirit, she'd be intensely proud of what you've built in her name. But as a mum, what does it mean that you are able to take the love that you give her and try to give it to other kids as well?
Billy was remarkable And you know I didn't obviously, like you said, I wish I wasn't here, but I am. And you know I didn't set out to do this. The Big kind of Foundation has really organically grown and it snaked its way to become what it's come. And children relate to Billy. There was just something about Billy and you know, as a twelve year old child, if they see her and if Billy's making a difference, it
means that so can they. And that's what would be kind as trying to do, is give children a voice, give them confidence, and you know, really instill in them that we can all make a difference. Everyone can make a difference.
Just looking at a photo of and now what a beautiful girl, and you're a wonderful mum. Congratulations to you, to everyone involved in it. The website is b Kindofoundation dot org. Congratulations on the Shine Award, but congratulations as well. I know how tough it is to find a way to put one foot in front of the other, and you do it. You do it every day and strength and love from everyone who's watching us right now.
Mate, Yeah, thank you so much, Paul, Thank you for having me on and Thank you to Harvey Norman and the Weekly Times and those incredible women, all those women you know. I feel very humble to be here.
Well done, Danny, Thank you all of us big Oaks, from all of us who have just met you, but look forward to celebrating what your work that you do. You can donate to the Be kind Of Foundation. You go to their website which is be kind Of Foundation dot org. See tomorrow