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But first, you know how it feels like every second day there's some sort of a protest that's happening somewhere. Most of them normal people aren't really part of some we really like because they're on some of the issues that we like. But it does feel like more people take to the streets than ever before. Certainly when it comes to social media, there's a lot more activism than ever before. But I wanted to talk about how not all people power is considered the same.
For example, should you.
Be allowed to completely shut down one of the biggest parts of the traffic network over Capital City to make a point, even if the point is about the very bridge that you're going to be protesting on. There is a group that is planning to essentially slow down traffic later this week across the Story Bridge to make a point that pedestrians and people on cyclists should have more access to the Story Bridge while the pedestrian parts of the bridge are currently being fixed up. It's a group
called Space for Cycling in Brisbane. But today in the Courier Mail it is understood that the demonstrators are marching to demand that the Brisbane City Council allocate one car lane to pedestrian, cyclists and scooter traffic, following the closers of the footpaths on either side of the bridge, which took place in March. According to the organizers of the protest, demonstrators will stop car traffic on the bridge and use all SIKHS lanes to safely walk across.
Now, this is not.
An extinction rebellion thing. It is about people who believe that the Story Bridge, not just an iconic part of Brisbane, but a pretty significant way that you can get from one side of the river to the other, should have greater access for people who are not in a car, because previously you've been able to ride a bike or walk across on things that are now currently being closed. But is it okay even if that's the point you're
making to shut down the entire thing. Here's one of the protesters talking about why they're planning to do it, talking to foll We see this afternoon.
So what we're asking for is that one of the car lanes should be shut and barriers put up so that people can walk and cycle safely across.
We're hoping for a.
Couple of hundred people to turn up. We recognize that there will be inconvenience, We recognize that they will be delayed, But the point of the protest is to point out that thousands of people have had their travel delayed, and thousands of people have been inconvenienced, and thousands of people safety has been put at risk every single day since the fifth of March when the footpaths were closed.
But why were the footparts closed? Well, of course they were closed because there is some concern about the safety of said footparts. Why am I talking about a national show a footpath in one city that you may or may not be watching us from right now, Because the reality is that people responding to the decision of the Brisbane City Council to shut those things are now going
to respond by shutting down effectively this entire bridge. Now, of course, people who don't have fair warning of this, they're going to get caught up in the traffic, and there's a whole bunch of reasons why you're in the car needing to get from A to b. A to B may be from work to home, home to work, but it also could be from home to hospital. It may be from work to picking up kids. There's a
reason that bridge needs to stay open. But for some reason, the protest has had all the paperwork filled out and is completely okay. That level of disruption has been approved by the authorities in Queensland. That of course means that much of the media will cover it and there won't be much cover about the people who are inconvenienced by it. But I also want to talk about another version of
people power and how the media responds to that. Back when the Labor Party was the party in charge of the Queensland State government, they loved setting a very high renewable energy target because it was a way of giving the middle finger to the Libs who were in Canberra, and they even went as far as making stupid announcements that building thousands of wind farms.
Would end up being tourist attractions.
You can look at the scale, have a look Brandon, turn around and look up. These are huge and honestly, I think we should have viewing platforms for families to come out here and actually see what is in their own backyard.
What an exciting thing. Hey, kids, get in the car. What are we doing Dad?
We're going to the wind farm. But such was the way these things were being sold. But of course, as we know, when it comes this type of development that is happening all over Australia, the state governments are not just announcing this stuff, but in places like Victoria, they're changing the law. So the locals who would be impacted by this stuff have very little capacity to complain or they complain and essentially it's just filed in the two hard basket or the computer automatically says no.
Well there.
Of course, has been a change of government in Queensland, one that has maintained high targets when it comes to carbon reduction, but also believes that the same attitude that people would have in the city to say a unit block being put up next door, that they have just as much say about whether there should be a valley full of wind turbines.
The Moonlight Range.
Project is one that apparently was going to cost about a billion dollars, but it was going to have one or two or quite a few of these wind farms. Now, whether you like them or not, it can't be denied that essentially we're disrupting the earth the land to save the atmosphere. And then of course there's all the questions about what happens when it doesn't win and doesn't shine and all the rest of it.
Well, what was the.
Media reaction to the decision to shut this down in the Turbal Times fears that Queensland is closed for clean business as LNP councils billion dollar wind farn despite conditional approval. I think the word conditional sort of makes the outrage go to one side. The Courier Male talks here about the one billion dollar range that had been shut down by the Labor Party. That's a straight reporting of the story.
But industry news websites say industry slams the acting of one billion dollar wind farm as highly political as doubts are raised over objections. Well, interestingly, the reason why this project is not going ahead is because of people power.
The same people.
Power that can bring the center of Brisbane to a standstill. Completely Okay, but if it stands in the way of what others demand that they wouldn't have in their own backyard, but you must have it in your backyard, then the state is closed for business. And this wasn't just a random decision by a bunch of politicians appealing to the
far right. It's politicians giving locals the opportunity to say, hey, what do you think, and the extreme majority of those said no. This was the statement which came out from the Deputy Premier Jared Bly in Queensland yesterday. It says the project included plans for up to eighty eight wind turbines, a battery, energy storage system and related infrastructure covering one
thousand and two one hundred hectares. In total, four hundred and thirty four hectares of vegetation would need to be cleared. The assessment considered significant feedback from local residents and stakeholders, as well as the impacts on the local infrastructure and services and housing. Five hundred and fifty people and anyone in the state had the opportunity to turn around and write to this committee and say hey, we.
Love it, please have it. But guess what.
Eighty five percent of the feedback that the Queensland Government wanted. Of God was four hundred and seventy three or five hundred and fifty who said no, don't do it. Whole bunch of reasons, and yes, some may be very petty all the way through to environmental, but the very least is people power. It's okay on the story Bridge, but
it's not okay in parts of regional Queensland. It found that the proposal did not meet the requirements of the govern's new planning laws, which ensure renewable energy projects are assessed by the same rigorous approval processes as other major
resource developments. Here's a bit more of the Queensland Deputy Premiere explaining how people power changed the decision, as opposed to you're going to get it, but you can go and look at it with the kids on the weekend, which was the approach of the previous Labor government.
These things have been popping up all throughout regional and rural Queensland without any community consultation, and we made an election commitment we would change laws, make the laws impact accessible.
So perfect example right now, Obviously a one afternoon protest on the story Bridge is not as impactful as building or not building permanent infrastructure. But no, you love the way the media.
Does these things.
I mean, remember those people who glue their hands to the streets, like those extinction rebellion. They have judges that turn around and say, well, because of the importance of the cause to you, no criminal sanction. Even people who are sent to jail for disrupting major thoroughfairs like the Sydney Harbor Bridge are able to successfully argue that the law shouldn't apply to them because of the trauma that they have felt, not living but knowing about previous natural disasters.
Don't you love how people power is very selectively used here? Now my argument is just because there's a protest, should there be a decision that the pro just want, Well, that would be chaos.
But that's not what happened here.
They let everyone have a say and eighty five percent of people said no. Last time I saw that it was a democracy and not just something like what we had at the federal election, where a whole bunch of stuff is thrown in and then a result goes one way or the other and whoever is the winner gets to say, well, everything we stood for everyone loves take it or.
Leave it now Waisi.
You know, Australia is getting bigger by the day, and I don't just mean around our wastes, myself included, But of course we are a growing population currently twenty seven point three midian people. At the last census, it was twenty five million. Ten years before that, it was twenty one million. Ten years before that it was eighteen million. And for those that were around in nineteen ninety one, myself included heading off to high school, I was in
that particularly year. You can see that the country has grown by eleven million people in the part of thirty years. That is eleven million more mouths to feed, people to
find housing for infrastructure. But because it's a couple of hundred thousand here and a couple hundred thousand there, But when you actually look at that huge increase in our population in a period of time that most people watching this show certainly we're living and certainly in the prime of their life for from nineteen ninety one to twenty twenty five, sixteen point eight to twenty seven point three million, and Australia is set to grow because of course, businesses
want more customers, the federal government wants more people, to be in the country, so they end up becoming more taxpayers, which means we get to a scenario where potentially, depending on how much immigration, whether it is at low, medium, or high levels, will be anywhere in twenty seventy one between thirty four million people nineteen ninety one, sixteen million
people or forty five million people almost forty six million people. Well, what of course makes the Ponzi scheme of endless population growth and if it doesn't happen naturally then you import more people to the queue, is that everyone gets older, Everyone at some point in time gets sicker, and everyone needs to be taken care of. And if there are five million people who need a hospital now, it'll eventually
become seven and then ten and then fifteen. And to pay for it, you need to make sure that there's seven, ten or fifteen million people a full working age. You are not going to need things like the healthcare system. So today I was very interested to see some numbers come out from the Australian Bureau of Statistics and it talks about just how many Australians have got a chronic illness right now, One in fifteen six percent of adults have diabetes one in seven adults have indicators of chronic
kidney disease. That's currently fourteen percent. It was ten percent ten years ago, so more people are now having indicators of chronic kidney disease. Thirty percent of people have abnormally high cholesterol levels guilty one in five or twenty percent of adults have a vitamin D deficiency. This is slightly down from where we were ten.
Years ago, but you get my point.
Now we think about more population as being exclusively something about roads or rail or places to live. But of course, at some point in time, really little people need to go to school, people of a particular age need to go into some sort of care. There's a whole bunch of compromises in the middle. But the more people.
You add to the queue, the bigger all.
Of these problems become. And a frightening example of what I have talked about for years, And I don't care what any election result tells us for the next one hundred years. I stand by this point, which is, currently we don't have enough money to pay for everything that is demanded of the federal, state and local governments. In fact, this chart I've shown you how many times, is how many budget deficits there will be between now and twenty
sixty three. There is not one surplus into a realistic future. This government went into an election promising not just one point two trillion dollars worth a debt, but.
No budget surplaces for the next ten years.
But when you start to look at a population that goes from the nineteen nineties at sixteen million to the twenty seventies at forty five million, you've got to build a lot of stuff. That's a lot of houses, a lot of homes, a lot of units, a lot of schools, a lot of disability care centers, a lot more than just a rebadging of your local medical center as an urgent care clinic, a lot more hospitals, even a lot
more graveyards. The reality is is that this is where the rubber hits the road in a conversation about population. One thing that was despicable about the federal election just gone was that any conversation about the number of people that you add to the queue was somehow a racist attack on people who have come to the country through legitimate and legal processes over the past two, five, ten,
fifteen years. It's real low rent politics, but The reality is whether you were lucky enough to be born here decades ago, or you're somebody that will join the greatest club in the world Australia in the next ten years. The more people, the more need for infrastructure. The more need for infrastructure, the higher the spending of federal, state and local government. And as that graphic shows you, there is not enough money for that infrastructure. So you would
think someone somewhere wants to tap the brakes. Not because anyone's being racist, doesn't like the person and the look of them on the other side of the street, or the languages that they speak at home. That's all rubbish.
It's because we know that the country that even all of its troubles in twenty twenty five, will be considered the golden years in twenty five years time, when our population surges past thirty and starts to make its way towards forty million people, it really matters whether a government can balance the books or not, because right now, after all of the ups and downs of this country in its modern form, it's one point two trillion dollars dead.
Every single one of those bars that shows a deficit is added on top, on top, on top, one point two becomes one point five, becomes one point seven, becomes two, becomes two point five.
And as I've shown you.
Before in places like Victoria, where they have this idea that in order to pump prime the politics, you just keep making the spending promises. The electorate then starts demanding the promises. Whether you have the capacity to pay it
or not doesn't matter. And it goes from servicing the debt of all of the money of all of the taxpayers goes from something in the top twenty of the spending priorities, to the top fifteen to the top ten, to in the case of Victoria, of all of the things, education, transport, all the rest of it, in the top five of things that need to be serviced when it comes to debt in the future years is the ten billion dollars
we needs to be paid off debt as interest. That will be the case in the federal budget, regardless of whom is the treasurer in two years, in five years, in ten years. And I stand by that this is a rich melting pot with lots of people from lots of places, and that makes us a better country.
But the idea of how big.
The pot can possibly be with how many people in it is going to create its own troubles, And there's nothing wrong with talking about it because I will keep showing the evidence that, as it shows today, we get older, we get sicker, more need for public investment, but the credit card is already maxed out and they're already borrowing one point.
Two trillion dollars from the rest of the world.
One of the things that was an absolute slam dunk of the Labor Party during the election was had good they were on social media and how bad the Liberals were on social media.
We all know the.
Garbage that was said over and over again as Anthony Albanezi was playing the greatest hits of scare campaigns of many a Labor leader, and all of it worked and he got as many seats as John Howard.
So who am I to complaint?
Fifty billion dollars ripped out of health, thirty billion dollars ripped out of educations, ripping fifty billion dollars out of health, thirty billion dollars out of education, ripping money out of the ABC, fifty billion dollars of cuts to health, thirty billion dollars of cuts to schools.
Of course, that's rubbish, it's a lie. It's not true.
Every government, regardless of what color they were, has spent dollar for dollar more on health and education every single year. Because see the last comments that I just made. But one of the land mines that were left by the Labor Party as they were going through the rud Gillard rud years was that they would have big ideas like the National Disability Insurance Scheme. They'd pretend that it only cost a couple of billion dollars, but the reality was the actual cost of it.
Blows out the longer that it exists.
The same people who made massive announcements about funding would then turn around and just put into the future tens of billions of dollars more. There was a government that comes in doesn't deliver the former government's promises, they get to say cut, cut, cut.
And around and around and around we go.
And politicians who are never called out by the media for this will they just keep on doing it. And politicians who are rewarded by the electorate will just keep on doing this. And increasingly governments are immoimmune to those of us who are calling them out because they just go around what they considered to be the traditional points of friction, the people who don't just faithfully report whatever it is that they say, that you are involved in
the pushback every now and then. Well, a perfect example of this is starting to play out in Queensland. Of course, my beautiful I wish it was home state blood transfusions to become a Queenslander.
You know all of that.
Well, at the last state election, as Stephen Miles was desperately trying to hold onto the furniture, he made the most ridiculous, over the top excessive promises that we all know nobody could pay for. But they were just desperate announcements that were in many ways land mindes being put in place thousand dollar handout for this, two hundred dollars handout for that twenty five dollars reduction. But the asterisk every single time on those things was that they weren't permanent.
They were only for the twelve months to get through the election. So slowly but surely, as these things start to expire, guess what Stephen Miles is out and about telling anyone who will listen that the evil liberals are increasing the cost of insert, increasing the cost of cutting to this cutting to that this is part of his attempt to scandalize the current government for not delivering on the fakest and emptiest of promises that he was making
trying to save his own backside. An example of it, which is in the run up to the budget in June of this year, is that Stephen Miles is pushing for the permanent power bill handout. This was the thousand dollars off your power bills to be paid for by the Queensland taxpayer.
Who knows who cares.
But because it's not permanent, somehow it's the evil LMP who's not giving you what they should. And all of this relates back to the federal election and relates to politics as it is not as people wish it to be.
There is no time machine for.
Us to miraculously go back to a more perfect time in Australian politics. We are where we are and we
can only move forward. The powerful forces that do or don't exist again, they always change, and increasingly politicians think that they can just go around anyone will ask them a tough question and go to a generation of voters who probably aren't engaging with the news, so therefore they just follow the leader they like, or they see the videos being echoed of the leader they like, and in the case of Stephen Miles, he is trying to kick up an almighty scare campaign, hoping to turn the current
good fortunes of the government that is cleaning up the mess that he and Palochet had left in the many years before, where their gift to Queensland was all of these wind farms and despite your objections, you'll.
Be able to turn up and have a look at them.
So he's going on social media and he decided specifically to go to a collection of young voters at the University of Queensland and he decided to start putting a very false premise in front of those people, hoping that no one would pay any attention to the detail because they didn't for Elbow, so presumably they won't for him.
Did you heard that the government's just put up Joe by twenty four percent?
No, no, I have not.
I haven't, No, I have.
No.
Yeah, it went down. I put it down. Yeah, I remember when you Yeah, when you put it twenty percent. I was supposed I was supposed to renew it next month. Yeah, that's a bit a bit of a shame.
Okay, that's a lie.
That's eighty eight bucks a year. What could you do with eighty eight bucks?
Play a lot of bubbletins of that?
That's like eight weeks of that's true.
It'd be nicer to say an extra tanker petrol.
Honestly, of course, it was a one off promise that happened going into an election that fingers crossed. If they won, Okay, fine, we'll just keep borrowing.
Who cares.
But it was a promise that was overtly just for one year, overtly made by somebody who was desperately trying to change the subject, so.
To end where I was starting.
Social media and how it is used is vitally important, and the conservative side of politics needs to learn how to push back, needs to learn how to call bs, needs to learn how to do it in the language of what will become dominant numbers of voters as years roll on. And I think a perfect example of that is the Queensland Treasurer who used social media to call BS and explain in nice, simple language while why Miles and Labor are lying?
Did you heard that the government's just put up road Joe by twenty four percent? Nont?
No, I have not.
It's getting pretty ridiculous, and you're going to hear some pretty silly things from Stephen, Miles and Labor over the next month. But time to get the truth on the table. Stephen Les was never going to keep the car regio discount after September. He never put a dollar in the budget for energy rebates, and he certainly never made fifty cent fairs permanent.
That's a bit a bit of a shame.
What you'll get from us is short term and long term cost of living relief and we'll have more to say about that in the next month and on Queensland Budget Day on the twenty fourth of June.
Good you've got to push back, you've got to fight.
You know how I've said about meeting people where they are, and some people I roll and think that that's some sort of secret lifty code.
No, No, that's what I'm talking about.
For currently hundreds of thousands, eventually millions of voters, that's going to be the main way that they interact with people. They don't care about the core flutes anymore. Okay, they may not see the radio ads and increasingly, if you live in these sorts of information systems where the politicians are just unchallenged. There's not even kinder truth that to live in those spaces. Well, then, of course, what do
they say. The lie goes halfway around the world before the truth gets a chance to pull its duds on.
This is the perfect way to fight back. This is how they should have fought.
Back in the many months and the many weeks of the federal election campaign. I don't know if it would have changed the answer. It's too late to ever know. But to the people who are trying to rebuild things, look at good examples of how it's being done, good examples of how to take on lies. Meantime, total focused out of floods. We'll do that a lot in the next segment as well. We're going to have to chat about to particularly some really smart people who want to
help you. If you are somebody who's going to get dutted by an insurance company, this may not affect you because you maybe aren't living in and around the mid north coast of New South Wales right now, but it may affect you when a storm flood tree falls on your house comes to your part of the world, probably sooner rather than later. Well, then eight hundred properties have been deemed uninhabitable. Six and a half thousand damage assessments
currently being completed in and around these floods. Prime Minister was there to and now, you love for all of his bagging of John Howard over the years, he is just following the playbook two at every time you go out and about you wear the cricket uniform. It's just twenty first century John Howard. And that's why he was able to well, perhaps matthen when it comes to electoral appeal, not saying that because I like the guy, not saying
because I'm changing my opinion of the guy. But of course when the blow turns up and you know, turns up a little bit late, but who cares elections over? Who weren't getting the every two hour updates? No, because he was off in Rome for how many days? Was that?
By the way, I just went on and on and on and on and on. Didn't know.
It's very important, very important because of course he's a deeply committed person of faith who didn't get sworn in by the Bible. Whatever details, details, details, Well, he was up there today announcing a whole series of special financial payments which we'll be given to those who are currently in the emergency situation. Is it just me or does this not sound that generous?
I want to say that we are activating the Australian Government Disaster Recovery Payment in nine local government areas. This payment helps people who have suffered the most serious impacts, including a major damage to their home or serious injury or loss of a loved one as a result of severe weather. It's a one off payment of one thousand dollars for eligible adults and four hundred dollars for eligible child.
This involves as well, comes on top of the support that is already rolling out, including personal hardship payments one hundred and eighty dollars for eligible adults and up to nine hundred dollars per family.
You've just lost your house, here's one hundred and eighty dollars. An amazing leader who's just a part of Team Australia. But if you say Team Australia or you due the flag of Australia cultural war. As the will changes before our very eyes and they write the history and they try to tell us what the future is going to be. I'll be more than happy to be a pebble in the blokes shoe if nothing else, will be irritating, but hopefully eventually enough for him to change course. Quick breakback
with more here on Paul Murray Live. Nigel Ferra's breaking news in the UK. He'll tell you what that news is very soon here on Paul Murray Live. Thanks for watching Tusda up. I've got some information about how you can help the people that are affected by the floods mid.
North Coast of New South Wales. I'll get to that website in a second, but let's get right now to.
Jeremy Miller, who's the Deputy Mayor of the Mid Coast Council, for an update about how things are going.
Mate.
I have no doubt that you're running on fumes, but you probably have been for a couple of days now. We've had the scenario where again Prime Minister comes in and out, Premiere comes in and out. Great, all fine, fair enough, but we're now in this next phase which is particularly difficult, which is some people are not able to return to their homes because they are not allowed to live in them. But there's thousands more who've got a lot of work to be done. What did you see today?
Well, what was see out in the streets is the power of humanity. It is pretty extraordinary. You know, people are just devastated. I saw a friend on Facebook saying her mum's in hospital in Newcastle, having regular you know whatever she's doing in the hospital there. And while she's there, she's got an email saying her house is unhabitable. She can't go back in it, she can't get her belongings,
you know, so what she's supposed to do. So I know that places are being inspected now to see if people if it is safe to go back in, and we're finding in about a quarter of the houses it's not safe. So at the moment it's in the hundreds of houses, but will end up in the thousands of houses. But people that just need somewhere to go because they
just simply can't return to their houses. For the people who can return to their houses, I was helping a woman in Glenthorne right by the river, you know, with the mud halfway.
Up at kitchen, halfway up at walls.
She's just going to rip out all the jiprok in our house. And it's you know, you know, for amovie, your shoes when you go in, because the whole house is just mud up to about, you know, knee high. It's pretty devastating for people.
So can not all streets, not all houses are created equal. But what happens when somebody goes and sees a joint that's full of mud? Is there a cleaning crew that's got obviously neighbors and everyone's helping. But in terms of the official stuff, is there a cleaning crew that goes through and with brushes they just push as much of it out as possible?
Are they?
Because of the nature of things, it's easier to pressure wash stuff out, Like what's the stuff that they can do? Give us an idea again, if we're talking about you know number twelve, number fourteen sixteen eighteen in Smith.
Street, Sure, well, this one's house. We were out of glenh On. The first issue was to get the chainsaw and just move the enormous trees that were blocking access into the house. And you know, for the sparky be able to get to the power board. You know, just physical access is impossible because of the quantum of what's
being washed up against these houses. You know, the power of nature is just incredibly You look at some of those trees and go, how did that even get moved over to that house there, so digging through the sort of the muck and the trees to the house the first problem.
So you're in.
Of course, it's devastating to open your front door and just find there's just it's just mud and silt. So we end up, you know, getting a shovel and getting as much out as you can and then yes, you hope at the inside of your house ripping up, but getting at any vinyl and then you've just got to tear off any jip rock up to wherever the waterlane came up to, because you're not going to save that, so any electricals and jip rock up to that line.
You know, it's just physical, hard work, and we're very happy. There's been hundreds of SES volunteers. There's been some doing and throwing about whether the army is coming, but apparently the army is now coming or on the ground or about to be on the ground. So what we need is hands, and really what we need is heavy machinery, because I've been hearing from a lot of farmers that are saying, look, it doesn't matter how many extra hands
I get to come down and help me. What I need is bulldozers and big heavy machinery to move, you know, just the force of nature that's come through and devastated it.
Yeah, and it's a thing where I mean, if there are people that are watching, if there are farmers that are watching from other parts of the country that might be able and want to help. Is that the sort of thing that you know, if you've got something to offer, you offer it through counsel or do you offer it
through the sees through disaster recovery? What's the best way If you're sitting right now, everything's fine around you and you can probably do without the dozer for a week, what's the best way to.
Get in touch.
Well, we're seeing a lot of people who were just turning up. You know, there was a guy working beside me down at the Saloess who's driven all the way from Melbourne NonStop just to come and help. And that's fantastic. But if you're coming to site, see please don't come because you know the place is pretty full and we're just trying to get people to where they need to be so we don't need extra traffic and extra site
sees around. But if you do want to give, then there's a site called give It dot org, dot AU, which is the one that the newsopolask, government asks you to support, and counsel ask you to support. We give
it you can match. So there are people on there saying, look, I just need some size five shoes for my kids, and so you can go on and give it and say, well, I have size five shoes for kids, and you can make sure that your goods get to where they need to be, because what we've seen from previous disasters is sort of well meaning people. You end up with a warehouse full of stuff that you don't know what to
do with. All you want to make sure is the right stuff is getting to the people who need it, and you're not giving things that people don't need right now. So give it is a good way just to match that good stuff.
Thank you, Jeremy, really appreciate it. Look, I know it's dot some bold stuff. I know it's become your every day, but I want everyone around the country to understand what's going not just you know, focus on it for half a day or isn't that terrible? Move on, Let's stick with it for the next oft the while. Thank you, Jeremy, Strength and love to everyone in your community. Now we've spoken to Christy Evans before. Christy is a lawyer who certainly knows how to go to battle with a it's cursing,
my apologies, go to battle with insurance companies, she joins us. Now, hello, mate, now let's talk about this process. Now, where say you're in one of these scenarios where your house is you just can't get back to, and then there's going to be a whole series of disputes that are.
Going to start to take place.
How do we make sure that people don't get screwed over by lots of different systems that are going to say they're there to help, but they don't do much.
Yeah.
Look, the people have me know it's co stepping into a broken system. We know that they're about to have the odds stacked up against them. We want to make sure that they're lodging early, they're lodging fast, and that they are continuing to pursue claims even if that denial comes.
So give me an idea here again, if they're all right now about ten thousand different properties. Most importantly, first things first, as you say, don't wait file a paperwork, do it all, do it all tonight. If you can, why is it better to put it in now versus wait a couple of days when maybe you get your power back and you can start to do it.
Well.
Absolutely, we know insurers are stretched, we know that they're going to have limited resources for loss of justice hydrologists. We need these people to hit the region as soon as they can. So the faster lodge, the faster we're spurring insurers into action.
And Christy, how do you what advice do you have to help people go through this process? Because obviously you're not going to be able to handhold everyone through it. But what are some of the pitfalls that we could give as general information tonight for people who are about to, as you say, jump into this broken system.
The second you lodge your claim with your insurer, you are building a case. You are building a case to have your insurance policy approved by the insurer. Do not convertly say things if you do not know they occurred, if you were not there. You do not know the color of the water when it entered your premises, and you do not know how it entered your premises, whether it came through the roof or through the floor. If you were not there, you cannot say. The insurers will
be building a case from the outset. So it's really important that you are not conceding anything. And if you do not understand the question, simply ask them to put it in writing and you will answer it later.
Good stuff, Good stuff.
Now again when you say, because inevitably, when you're either sitting on the phone or you're filling things out, as you say, don't guess work, don't do things, don't say things in your claim that can be easily disproved. Which does I mean anyone's trying to lie, But as you say, people are just it's pretty obvious, right. I woke up on Tuesday, everything was okay. Then I was in an evacuation center, and then two days later I came back and the things filled with the flood.
So what did I see on TV that night?
Exactly? I don't know. I don't know if the water was muddy when it entered my premises. I don't know where it came from, if it came out of drains. You cannot say it. You know that water entered your premises, and you will be building an argument with your insurer because it may be the case that they're going to rely on over technical arguments in their product disclosure statements to overturn your claim and deny it.
Yeah, all right, so give us an idea. Again, we've talked before about the broken system. What's some of the stuff that is so obvious that needs to be fixed That last time we talked was clear when you went through it yourself years ago, it was clear. Every politician you've ever talked to sits there and nods their head. But the one big broken bit that they just never change.
Insures aren't how to account. That's the blanket thing. They're not held to account. We go through a system where you've got your average punter who's trying to pursue their claim. If they constantly get a denial, they face a secondary trauma all over again, and they get worn out. Even if they lodge a complaint to AFCA or are the government government bodies, it's a shut you know, it's a slap on the rest. It might be a public shaming, but we're still seeing insurance with record Crawfords.
Kirsty, thank you so much. I really do appreciate it.
I want people to have as much information as possible and again, well this may not be specific to you tonight. There is a bushfire that's coming in a few months time, there's a flood in two years time. There's something that's going to fall on your house, on your car. Kirsty Evans, thank you so much, really do appreciate it. Quick breakback with more Niga farrage in a few moments time. Plenty to say between now and then he's breaking news of the UK.
He will do so with us in moments. I promise Niger frash be here in a second.
Which the dots between here and our London studio. In the meantime, couple of things to tell you about, which is Jackie Lamby back for another six years. In Australian politics. Sadly, Lee Hanson not able to beat Herbert Geess. They got close, she got the final spot on the Tasmania or sorry, I think the fifth spot on.
The Tasmanian Senate results today.
Slowly but surely, we've heard from South Australia, we've heard from Tasmania. We'll see what happens when it comes to Victoria and Queensland. Those are places where one nation, so maybe maybe a shot at the last spot in Victoria and obviously Malcolm Roberts, particularly with a big shot in Queensland. We'll tell you more of those as they come across
our desk. But it's not just the only news. When it came to Senate results in South Australia, there is a new senator for the Labor Party and she is twenty one years of age. She's got in because of the Labor vote in South Australia being so strong. Her name is Charlotte Walker. Now really good that our parliament has people of all different ages, all different experiences. That's
good for democracy. What I will be fascinated about. And I don't know anything about Charlotte Walker, and I hope she has a wonderful political future in front of her. But is she going to fall into the same trap to say, a fatima payment somebody maybe not assumed to make it.
Maybe who was there?
Remember she made it onto the last spot in the Western Australian Senate election with the Labour Party at the last election, and we all know that she ended up sort of spinning off into her own world. Maybe, And I hope that that's not the case for somebody like Charlotte who if she spends the time learning from the people around her will of course only become stronger in the Labor Party, and we'll find out what her career is like and we'll watch it all in real time meantime.
Zoey Daniel, Oh, Zoey Daniel. Here she was on election night celebrating winning, but as we know, she didn't. In fact, Tim Wilson has won by a couple hundred votes in the seat of Goldstein, and as you may will have heard by now, there is going to be a partial recount because she says there's a few anomalies which I think is getting.
Very close to stop the steel talk.
But anyway, look, I know this story is from yesterday and you've already heard it, but it does just give me an excuse to play her dancing again when she thought she had won.
That's just cotuitous.
Yes, I'm a couple of bits of health information which you're worth talking about as well today, including indometriosis, something that affects so many women around the country, and a private family have decided to donate the single largest donation two.
Research in this particular area.
A Sydney university says it has received the single largest donation for indometriosis research in the world. A donation of fifty million dollars to the University of New South Wales will establish the Ainsworth Indometriosis Research Instance. The goal is
accelerating breakthroughs in diagnosis and creating precision based treatments. It is an investment that one sorry, it's estimated that one in seven Australian women have the medical condition by the age of forty four, but there are still major delays when it comes to the diagnosis and treatment. The average time for a diagnosis now is about seven years. Also
good news for little people with ADHD. Gps in New South Wales are going to be given a greater capacity to be able to diagnose and treat By safely training more gps to treat and diagnose AUDHD, we are hoping to break the cycle of people having to wait years for what can be a life altering diagnosis. I had the most beautiful conversation with somebody who've been through that process in Kansas a couple of days ago.
Hell, I've done and I'm glad you're always watching.
That's what Chris Minn says that not getting diagnosed can they particularly big impacts on kids when it comes to trying to get the most out of their life. So
that's a good one. And the last one here is that electricity may well play a role in treating can answer according to one of the companies that's doing this and oncology company, that we're leveraging the electrical properties from cancer cells and they know that technology can disrupt electrical forces at play and sell division to slow down tumor growth.
Again direct quote.
We think our bodies, we think of our bodies as being biological beings as well as chemical beings, but we are also electrical beings.
See that's why you've got to be here each and every night.
There's the politics, there's the wondering out lad, and there's some good news about where we're going when it comes to our health.
We're on a sec here on Pull my.
Re Live, I'm pretty sure we'll get Nigel Farage. I hope it all works. But in the meantime there is and hopefully on your Telly next.
His time for the man who's never.
Boring and making huge news is we we're getting ready for the show tonight. There I am seeing him on one, two, three feeds from the United Kingdom, all of them in breaking News where he's, among other things, just challenge the Prime Minister one on one debate in a workers club in the Red Wall. Nigel Frar, the leader of Reform Joints US now from the UK. Today's a big day because you are stepping up and absolutely taking the fight
to the government. We know the polls have put you in a position to either be very close or in front of the government. Do you consider yourselves to be the opposition now?
Oh?
Absolutely.
The Conservative Party have been around for two hundred years. They are melting away, they're disappearing. They are I think reaping as they sewed because they promised they cut immigration, they led it to record levels. It's made the country poorer. And yeah, we have now replaced the Conservative Party. You saw that of course on May the first with the English local elections, and now labor are really scared of us.
The Prime Minister has been busy attacking me for the last few weeks and so today I thought I'd return the favor.
And I like that you've gone straight at him saying you know what, rather than you know, don't go behind my bag, don't do the passive aggressive thing in parliament, don't do it in you know, favored studios of the BBC. Let's go to ride into the heart of working men and women country and look each other in the eye.
So what's the challenge you've got through?
Yeah, I said, Look, let's go to a working man's club in a former mining area in the north of England and let's do a head to head debate in front of an audience of men and women who come from those communities, communities that have been labor mostly since the end of World War One, and let's see how we get on. And I did say, I wasn't sure whether the Prime Minister enjoyed a few pints or having a bet on the afternoon's horse racing, but.
I certainly do.
And let's see, because you know he says Labor are the party of the workers. Well you know what I think, Reform are now the party of the workers. And this would be a very good acid test. So let's hope he takes me up on it.
Well.
And this is fascinating because we're in this scenario where I always love, you know, these establishment parties like Labor in the UK here or there. It's not really about the work here, it's about the union. It's about the organization. It's about the power structures, not the people that get screwed over by many of the decisions made by those including you've come out and said that you would pull the UK out of net zero promises by twenty fifty. It's a very active debate in Australia.
Why do you want to do it for the UK?
Because what we've done in the name of that zero is we have pushed wind and solar, for which China, by the way, say thank you very much. We've subsidized it like crazy. It doesn't work without subsidy. We've put that onto bills. We now have the most expensive commercial
energy prices in the world. And I sit and watch every week as Britain d industrializes, as huge numbers of people lose their jobs, and as ordinary families have to pay up to twenty percent extra for their electricity bills to subsidize foreign companies and manufacturers for something that is making almost no difference to global carbon dioxide outputs. The whole thing is mad. It's like a new religion. Everybody agrees.
I've dared to come along and challenge it, and do you know what the silent majority are now with me?
I said this out of respect and obviously people like myself love the United Kingdom, But what is the level of madness that we see where things like what happened in Liverpool yesterday. What do you think of when you see something like that where people who are celebrating footy, celebrating their favorite football team get mowed down by some bloke in a cart.
Yeah, they were out celebrating. I mean, Liverpool have had a great season. While I'm here, I must mention Crystal Potters did win the FA Cup, my team, first thing we've ever won. But it was a happy day. And I don't know what the motives of this bloke were. The rumors are that he came out of a club, that he was very, very drunk. I just don't know.
I just don't know.
But it's horrible, it's awful. But it also shows a failure of the authorities. How with a huge crowd was a car allowed to get anywhere near a street full of people? So perhaps, in some ways is yet another example of broken Britain. Things just aren't working here anymore. We need to turn it around. We can turn it around, and that's why I a year ago came back into politics I believe we can do a lot lot better.
It's extraordinary that a year later you've got to not just the seats in Parliament, you've got so many local councils.
The polls are on your side. And I've got to say, one of the reasons why.
I think you're surging from a very long way away, but obviously due to technology. Looking you in the eyeah and every Tuesday night, is you take on things like the cost of having kids. I love that in your speech today you talked about the difficulties people have about whether they want to expand the population naturally, and that people literally are frightened sometimes about expanding because of how expensive it is to have a kid these days.
Yeah, having a kid's dear childcare, of course if you go back to work is wildly expensive, and a lot of people just aren't having kids, and we think we can replace that by mass foreign, low skilled immigration, which actually makes us poorer. What I said today was perhaps not fashionable, but it's this. Children that grow up in a married family with a mum and dad through to maturity have better life chances than those that don't. I'm
not moralizing. I don't want to be the Archbishop of Canterbury. I'm just stating a simple fact, and it's been unfashionable to champion the family. We've been all about diversity for the last few decades. But let's face the truth. Actually
family matters. A marriage it does. I mean, my own track records not great, I admit, but marriage actually matters, and bringing kids up in a stable environment matters, and giving people the confidence to have children, if we can do that through the tax system, must.
Be a good thing.
And today was the first time I already opened up on this, Paul, but I'm going to go on doing it.
Good man, Thank you, Nigel. We'll talk to you again next week.
Thanks for making time for us today on top of what has been an already very big day. That's our show for tonight. We'll see when Meg and Kelly tomorrow night, and the Late Debate is now