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Get a mate where I fired up? I need four hours. I've got one, so I'm not going to waste your time. Massive one on the Telly Tonight, the great Nigel Ferras joins us exclusively only placed on AZI TV. You see him is here on a Tuesday night. He's up in a second. Wait till I show you the latest example of each way outbot this one? Dare I say his goal? And the lady who absolutely snuffed out Kamala Harris's chance of actually being the president four years ago is now
all in on Trump. Plus, there is an awful lot today of intentional distractions trying to blow the media off course, a lot of that has worked today. It won't work tonight. It won't work here, It will not work with me. Latest opinion poll today printed in the Turbul Times shows us fifty two percent of Australians believe the country is headed in the wrong direction. This is a near record high.
This is our after gost of living being the absolute front and center attention this year, last year, the year before, when, of course we all know it isn't it wasn't their own basic low road politics is where they are. And again I say much of the media today, if they fell for the distraction I mentioned last night.
Leadership, which is destructive and divisive, is not really leadership at all.
And that brings me to Peter Dutty.
He is the most divisive leader of a major political party in Australia's modern history. He divides deliberately his divisiveness. He picks fights and stokes revision.
Yeah, you've heard everyone else. I'm not going to be distracted by this. The reality of Australia and the leader that they have turned on is not Peter Dutton, it's Anthony Abneasy. Same poll from the freaking Guardian. It shows that the disapproval level of this Prime minister in the past twelve and a bit months has now hit fifty percent. Fifty two percent of the country say we're headed in
the wrong direction. Fifty percent of people say they disapprove of the Prime Minister's leadership, fifty one percent in the Channel nine newspapers. Meantime, Peter Dutton, here's the facts. Now one brings this stuff to you. Do though, they all just fall for whatever the daily distraction is. Well, now more people approve than disapprove of Peter Dutton's leadership. This is in a poll in the Guardian. It shows forty
two percent approve forty one percent disapproval. More importantly, put the two side by side, there's a nine point difference in disapproval. The Prime Minister is the one leading. Now. Also, when you have a look here about the don't know factor, Australians are making up their mind hard and fast, Aban Anthony Abernezi, just ten percent of people say they do not have an opinion about whether it is positive or negative or right now he is losing by a massive
margin and already half of the country. So even if this ten percent swings in, well guess what, it would still be a negative territory. The same is not the case for Peter Dutton. He still has sixteen percent of people who have not had his leadership defined or they have not come to a conclusion about whether it's positive
or negative. Now, this stuff is huge because remember what were we told for day after day after day, The same people who all fell for the distraction Today, not Jim Chalmers talking about the economy, not talking about cost of living, not talking about insurance, not talking about twelve interest rate rises. The reality is for the past two weeks there was one debate in the country and we were told it was toxic.
And as we saw last week in the Parliament, his dog we saw only plays we hurt you.
In silence and you can hear me in silence.
Stop being raped again. These people creating carbon emissions by the moment as they blow it out their backside. Because have a look at this, same pole, same organization. Forty four percent of people agree with Dutton's position when it comes to the pause, but more importantly, the increase vetting about people out of GASA. The alternative is thirty That
clearly is a big win. Now, by the way, when you start looking at this, this is not one of those things where young people are that they say let everyone in and older people say shut the game. Have a look now, Yes, people between eighteen and twenty four they do not share what has been stated, but not by some big margin. Instead, have a look at this forty three percent of people between the ages of thirty
five fifty four. That's the sweet spot of the Australian swinging voter thirteen thirty five to forty four fifty five plus. It gets up as you can see there to fifty seven percent of people. So we were all told by the access media, by the narrative media, by the get Dutton media that the past two weeks were a disaster, that there was just an absolute bomb of hate that was coming his way. Well every time, every time, be at the rejection of the job summit, the rejection of
the voice. Now this position, let alone the pausing of immigration into the country for people who would like to be able to buy a home, no foreign buyers for the first couple of years of a Dutton Prower prime ministership. Oh oh, clutcha pearls. Everyone's going to start fighting at auctions, people at the writers' festival or clap because Australia is a racist country. Again, stick it as far as you possibly can. I will not be distracted from the issue
in the country that Australians are hurting. They are hurting more than other countries because of the arrogance and the politics and the distraction bombs of this government. I will not will not be distracted. We will stay on them like a laser. Meantime, the government again thought today they've got this wonderful free pass because a story appeared today
in the Australian newspaper. The story suggested that the Coalition is looking at ways of being able to pay for their promises should they make it into government of this or the next election. The back of the envelope figure is apparently about one hundred billion dollars. They may well be able to move around in the budget. Now let's read here the Coalition will go to the next election with a budget and off budget savings of close to
one hundred billion dollars. In back to bay inflation fighting agenda, there will see a raft of labor spending programs acts in a bid to arrest structural decline of the government balance sheet. Back to me facts, according to the Treasury and this Treasurer, the Intergenerational Report shows us that Australia will have budget deficits every single year from now till the mid twenty forties. Why because the way it is structured,
the government spends more money than they get in. So in order to make sure that those deficits, which of course just get added on top of on top of on top of on top of so we get to on this government by the end of its first term one point two trillion dollars in debt, one point two trillion dollars of debt when it was about a trillion dollars. Oh, we have to change your government. Well, what do we do when it's one point two we have to change
your government because there was one interest rate rise? What do we do after another twelve? Again?
I will not be distracted.
I will remain focused because normal people are hurting. Three point seven million people in Australia right now can't find food, can't put enough food on the table to feed their kids. This is not where Australia should be at record homelessness with a government that got kissed on the proverbial because of a couple of years of actually getting more money
than they knew how to spend. But still this government has baked in billions and billions and billions and billions and billions of dollars in spending that only gets bigger as the years go on. And as I've told you before, the real scandal is the amount of money that's off budget, Like the tens of billions sixty billion dollars that's just
sitting off budget. It's still borrowed, it doesn't come out to it's borrowed money sixty billion dollars off budget, so you don't read about it when it comes budget time and the budget deficit doesn't look as horrible as it actually is for a slush fund for people like Chris Bowen when it comes to the renewable energy projects and then they sign a deal with a company and then they say, we can't tell you how much it was because of commercial and confidence. Oh yeah, the transparent government.
That's what this coalition is planning to try to start to unwind. They are not talking about cutting any deeper than what this government has added to the table. We continue. The coalition would not be abolishing indexation for welfare payments, meaning welfare payments when will go up if inflation keeps going up. That's what Labour's claiming. Why because as soon as they see any attempt for anyone anywhere to bring the budget back in the water, cuts cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts,
Uga book of music, black and white images, fear, fear fear. Now. Of course the Prime Minister, after seeing the headline and not reading the article, thought how it's this, Let's get into the distraction game today. I will not have to be responsible for the decisions of my government. Instead, I'll try to make you scared of a potential other government, and the media just sat there and watched.
In the last twenty four hours, we've seen examples of that with Angus Taylor announcing one hundred billion dollars of cuts on the agenda from the coalition government. It's up to the coalition to announce where those one hundred billion dollars of cuts will be. We know that Peter Dutt, unlike what will happen at this airport, he'll be a reverse thrust.
On the economy.
He will stifle the economy.
This is the idiot who yesterday said that productivity will increase because the boss won't be able to call out of ours. Now, of course, productivity is not what happen out of ours, what happens while you're at work. He is part of a leftist mindset that believes borrowed money never has to be paid back because no one will ever call it in. He's the type of person who believes that if you just add money, or create a new authority, or pretend that there's a new department, then
you're fixing Australia's problems. Now you are building a permanent empire. This is the front and center goal of center left and further left politics. You have seen it in Victoria and to this point, yes, it works electorally, but it's wrong, which is that the government grows so big that you either work for the government. This government has added more than thirty six thousand public servants. If you're in business,
then your biggest client is the government. Look at the NDIS, or the percentage of people getting well, which has now grown to the biggest in our budget's history, at about twenty six percent of all of the money that the federal government spends it is spent on welfare. So you become dependent on the government. Those three groups push them together, you get the best part of what sixty sixty five
percent guaranteed baked in political majorities. Well, I still live in the joint where you can say the government's wrong. Now I know the government's planning. Of course, this government is planning to censor the Internet where lefty think tanks, people who would hate me you this channel will say misinformation, and then the separate independent authority will turn around and say that the comments that we've shown based in data,
based in fact misinformation. And if a social media company you posted, well, they would be fine millions of dollars for having that misinformation. And then eventually the social media company turns around says, we can't be bothered posting links from said business. I'm not into that country. You're not into that country. Do not be distracted by these people.
You see, if Albanezi had actually read the article, and I know that two thirds of people are allegedly on Twitter only read the headline, he would have actually seen what are the potential areas coming for the opposition? Well here from Angus Taylor. First though about what he is talking about here. When they're saying all we're going to do is pull back on what labor has been spending since they came to government.
He's fighting the Reserve Bank, he's fighting the Productivity Commission, and he is fighting the laws of economics in this country because he thinks that the way to beat inflation is to throw more money at it. And that has never been true and never will be true. We know what the answer is to beat inflation. You've got to
get back to basics. That does mean you've got to manage the growth in government spending, and that's why we've opposed over ninety two billion dollars of spending in our voting in the parliament.
That's the whole point. Elections are about to be choices. They are meant to be about forks in the road. Labor and the left and their mates in the media arrogantly believe that unless you are in lockstep with them, then you are part of the problem. No, we just disagree with you. And by the way, if the Prime Minister had been bothered, or the reporters who did not question what he was saying today, or the analysts who did not question what was being said today, read the article.
Because in the article, here's some of the stuff that gets you to the mythical one hundred billion dollars, the augur Booget number that will be shoved down your throat by the narrative makers in this country, by the advertising, by the black and white, by the scary music. They'll get rid of the ten billion dollar housing Future Fund. They'll get rid of twenty billion dollars for rewiring the nation.
Why because there won't be a need to rewire the name, because there won't be a one hundred percent renewables policy, there will not be a fifteen billion dollar National Reconstruction Fund. There will not be a slash fund for the Prime Minister to dip into to hand out money to his mates like he has out of a Future Made in
Australia fund that's even opposed by the Greens. They get rid of a scheme where the federal government goes in with you if you happen to qualify to buy a house and then when you sell it, you've still got to give money back to the government. That's another five billion dollars thirty six thousand. As I mentioned public servants. There'd also be another two point two billion that woud go why because they're not going to fund Melbourne Suburban Rail Link, the big build of the Andrews and now
Allen governments together it's about eighty billion. Once you start to squeeze in a couple of other directions you get close to one hundred. That's the point. I am sick and tired in this country of the laziness of the people who claim to be proficient in the political conversation. You've got a call bs on these people. Now, there was plenty plenty about the previous government and Australia got it right because Australia always gets it right. If it
was time for a change, we got to change. But what we got and what we have is a government that is a world away from what it promised two hundred and seventy five dollars power bills of But the modeling doesn't count. Media, nothing to see here. It is not a broken promise. If Toney Abbott had said, look, I know we said stop the boats, but the modeling's changed, they'd still be screaming about it. Cost of living will be better under a labor government. Pick anything in any
aisle of any shop, anywhere it's more expensive. Oh we care about the little person. Twelve interest rate rises, let alone increasing petrol taxes, let alone insurance premiums going up through the roof. This mob they don't care because they give themselves pay rise. Oh sorry, completely separate independent, No wage freeze for them. They got three pay rises since the last election. Prom Minis has got two new private jets. The people who work for the politicians they get their
highest pay rise in ten years. The public servants who advise the politicians, they get their biggest pay rise in ten years. Do I seem pissed off because I am I will not be blown off course by these people. They hate what we do here each and every night. So you've got to be here every night. You've got to serious link the show. You've got to share the videos on YouTube. You've got to find the link at sky news dot com. That au, you've got to get
the podcast. You've got to make us too big to ignore. They will do everything they can to pretend that what we say here doesn't matter. But you and I know that we are the ones who were first to call them out, first to say that the Emperor has no clothes. Another example of that was something we saw during the
election campaign, which was the world of each way elbow. Now, of course, when it comes to each way Albo, that's because says one thing and then does another, says one thing and then says another, often within the same week. But because much of the media is too busy licking the boots of this bloke, because he'll help tuck them in at night with a little text message or a couple of drinks of the lodge. And the last guy
was so mean to us. A couple of people have already mentioned this, But how can I not the proposed gold mine in Blainey in New South Wales. Blainey just near Bathist, beautiful part of the world. The Chinese restaurant there in the main drag excellent, the pub next door, old school. I love their mayor and I love that part of Australia. Beautiful part of Australia. Shout out to everyone down the road, including my mate's cat and Dave
in Bathist. Now you know last week the tailings of this gold mine were ruled to be something with indigenous heritage connections to it. So the people who ran the mind said, well, sorry, we can't tender it. We can't do this. It's gone, it's over. The indigenous leader came forward and again said that there was some sort of cultural connection to all of it. Tanya Plubisek made it very clear that she, as a representative of the Albernizi government, made the decision to give the mine the biscuit.
Just to be very clear, I haven't blocked the gold mine. What I've said is that they need to relocate the tailings dam. It's an area that's associated with two very important creation stories.
If you have watched Ossie gold Hunters, you would know no tailing, no mine. That's the reality. Oh, we could just move things out of here if the people who run the gold mine, who would stand to make a pretty profit out of it, say they can't move it and this is the only option. And guess what, it's the only option. You pretending you're pro the mind. But this one little thing that clearly that people running the
mind won't move means you killed the project. And amazingly the Prime Minister comes out today and says I'm pro the mine. Well, could you tell your minister who last time I checked works for you to double check her decision making process? Talk about each way Albo his government bans of mine. Oh, but he's still for her.
Chris Minz would like it to go ahead. I'd like to go ahead too. There's nothing to stop it. There are other options that the company put forward on the tailing step.
Yes there is. It's called the Australian Federal Government. Nothing standing in its way. Now we know this Prime Minister loves being surrounded by the lovies who will one day call him Man of the Year or put him in the InStyle magazine and oh, pretty boy in China. All the rest of this crap crap that we've had to put up with, including the love life. I don't care, I don't care. Wish you well personally, but I do not care well. Today the CFMU they took the streets
and f Albow was what they were screaming. And this was the bloke who they helped bully into the Prime minister ship. But now it's f Albow because, as you know, the CFMU has been put into administration. Why because in part of the reporting of Nick McKenzie and sixty minutes where they had cold on tape examples of the CFMU at its worst. Here's some of the blow up today.
This is our union.
We get to choose who we want to run it, not the government.
We fight for these rights and we will continue to fight for these rights.
When they want to have a go at ass, they're having to go on all of us, not just the leadership. Because it's our union. We pay the fees. We should be the ones who elect on who we want to elect. It's not up to them. We had no consultation.
This union. They want to carry on like it's still Eureka Stockade time. This is a union that has run out of things to fight for that it fights for a two hundred thousand dollars salary for stopg people. Okay, two hundred thousand dollars now, Amazingly, it was the revelations on sixty Minutes that made the government move its hand. But it's not the first time we've heard about potential illegalities in and around this union. In fact, let's go to taxpayer funded internet to tell us that the CFMU
broke the law. This is story from just a couple of weeks ago, two six hundred times according to the Fair Work Commission. Repeat, the CFMU was broke the law two thousand, six hundred times. Gourding the financial Review. The CFMU treats nineteen million dollars in fines as a cost of doing business. They don't care about the rules. They do not care about the rules, which brings us to the people who are looking to suck up to the CFMU.
Regardless of what is caught on tape, what is admitted all ruled by a commission or a court, and that is of course the Greens. The Greens want the muscle, the Greens want the money, and the Greens were there today telling the CFMU what it wanted. In the Brisbane rally, all of.
You today organized in this powerful union in the CFMU. Your union has saved vibes. Your union means that every worker with an EBA and negotiated by the CFMU means fair wages, means safe conditions. It means a good light for you because you are the ones building the wealth in this country.
What do I keep talking about this because it's going to happen. It's very obviously going to happen. Because the Greens think that they have got a path to winning more seats, particularly in Southeast Queensland. The problem is they've won most of the rich areas, so now they have to start to move their way towards the suburbs. And it's going to help if they can have the help of the CFMU to knock on a door or to
donate money. Now, the idea that the Labor Party is allegedly at war with the Union, that it's always ignored its problems in the past, but it'll help the Greens, who for once may actually outpoll Labor. Yet of course they will continue to keep preferencing the Greens because they'd be afraid of them at a federal election. Watch this space. There is a lot and I mean a lot more to come in all of this. Now, of course, Airbus Albo about to take back to these skies, because that's
part of the distraction. Remember when he's overseas, I can't possibly answer any questions about Australian issues or what inflation. Oh no, c't sorry. I can only answer questions about the Pacific Islands for them, because that's where I am right now. I'll work on it, but I can't do the full danger Dan for you. But here's the thing. The Pacific Islands Forum, and this is important. A straight is to be there where the big dog in the region we represent so much help support and who doesn't
love the people of the Pacific Islands. We all want to take care of them. But one of the people who's going to be there at the Pacific Islands Forum when the abous Albo h sorry, Toto touches down, will be Toto too, because it's a new one four hundred and fifty million dollars for those two planes.
Nothing to see, just fine, you and me.
Well, the boss of the United Nations, mister Katis, he will kind of tries to outdo himself about global warming. That then became this.
The era of global warming has ended the idea. The here of global boiling has arrived. The air is unbreathable, the hit is unbearable, and the level of fossil full profits and climacy in action is unacceptable.
Okay, now the United Nations boss will be there and he will be, among other things, saying that Australia needs to move away from fossil fuels because Australia is one percent of the global problem. Does this floke ever ever use the same bellocoast language? Or you must act yesterday to the world's biggest polluter because that's China under a UN deal that the world signed signed up to and
put a hand behind its back the Western world. Will they get measured off their CO two output from two thousand and five China two thousand and thirty China compared to the rest of the world latest numbers twenty twenty three. While Australia produces one repeat one percent of global problems when it comes to CO two, you can see China there more than thirty percent, literally more than thirty times what Australia does. So I'm so pleased that he's going
to wave the finger at us. How many times are you going to do it in Beijing, Shanghai or anywhere else over there. Of course, the Third World or what do they call it now, the Global South, that's another twenty percent, Russia, India, all of those way bigger problems. The United States, Well, if Harris gets in who knows what's going to happen there. If Trump's going to get in there, he'll yank Paris and tear it apart. But Australian needs to change everything because we're one percent of
the problem. What about the joint that's currently thirty thirty percent of the problem staying in the United States. We are yet to see exactly what the pole bandsy is for Kamala Harris coming out of the Democratic National Convention. The assumption is that you get abounts. Why and why wouldn't you four days of fawning and sucky coverage all over the media. But clearly there is a problem that is now starting to develop for Kamala Harris, and much
of the media doesn't want to talk about it. Well, I'm about to you see, Kamala Harris is a fake you know that because of what she allegedly stands for. Literally, there is a story tonight in the United States, and the lady who previously had called the border wall reprehensible, unconstitutional, now claims she's going to build the wall. Seriously, if you're stupid enough to fall for this, well, good luck
to you. I've got a bridge to sell you. For everyone else, they say this for the fakery that it is four years ago, Donald Trump, worst thing of all time, kids in cages, all of this business four years lady, you want to pretend you're going to do all the same things. Please, We all know that she's never going to do any of that stuff whatsoever. Little cosmetic here in there, but what garbage. But we also know she's
terrible when she doesn't have a script. In fact, the script she is so loyal to that she uses the same words every time no matter where she is.
It really is.
Good to be back in wiscons But it is so good to be back in Michigan. Listen, let me tell you, I am clear, the path to the White House runs right through this state unless and I am clear, the path to the White House runs right through this state.
Tim has an incredible record as governor of the great state of Minnesota, and as you just heard, he has an incredible record as governor of the Great State of Minnesota, and to his former high school football players he was coach and to his former high school football players he was coach. I took on perpetrators of all kinds. I took on perpetrators of all kinds and had a summer job at McDonald's. I had a summer job at McDonald's.
Blah blah blah blah blah. But another perfect example about how the media who are desperate to cover everything. I mean, they are literally cheering on a person who doesn't want to talk to them. That's how out of their mind these people are. That's how in the tank they are. Because you said, Kamala Harris has this little trick when she flies around in the plane.
She may get.
Interviews to any of the reporters, but she goes back and apparently sits with the reporters, so they all feel like they're on the inside of a journey. They're all going to be able to write a book after she becomes president, but they won't do anything to prevent her being president by you know, asking her a question. Well, today, the media, of course played along with the Democrats game that it's all Donald Trump's fault that apparently the setting
stone deals and rules in and around a presidential debate. Well, she can renegotiate them. He can't.
Tonight, the status of the presidential debate is up in the air, with the two campaigns at odds over whether the candidate's microphones should be muted when the other isn't speaking.
The Harris campaign wants, and that's for microphones to stay on during the debate.
They want the mics to remain open, in part because some believe that it would highlight Trump's habit of interrupting. This is garbage. This is garbage. The actual thing Kamala Harris's people want is for her to be able to take notes with her, to have cheat sheets, to have lines written down, to have facts and figures that she can't remember so she can look them up during the debate. Here's what the Trump campaign said about that exact thing.
Enough of the games. We accepted the ABC debate under the exact same rules of the CE and N debate. The Harris camp, after already agreeing to the C and N rules, asked for a seated debate with notes. She can't speak off the top of her head with any confidence, so They want you to believe it's completely okay for her to sit there with cheat sheets notes and continue to be the empty pants suit. Not Obama in a pantsuit because he could talk until we all fell asleep.
But she is the empty pantsuit who wants briefing notes. And by the way, if you think I'm making it up, this is what she's like if she doesn't have a script.
We've been to the border.
We've been to the border. You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been to Europe. Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country, Russia is a powerful country.
Russia decided to invade.
A smaller country called Ukraine.
So basically that's wrong.
Now. Of course, the debate about the debate lovely distractions from her actual policy or lack of policy, or flip flop policy or outright lies. The other one is the story about the story of when she will or won't sit down and do an interview. The media have completely accepted. Oh, before the end of the month, well, guess what dull time is teaking. So we learned via NBC News that there is a plan for her to have a interview,
But how's this? Her running mate Tim Waltz will be sitting beside her, So as soon as she starts to go off to the word salad, he turns around and says, have a look at this steak, baby, and saves her from herself. This is not real life. There is no teleprompter in the oval office. I've been there. There is no script in the situation room. There is no pre ordained as Meghan Kelly says, emotional support governor, who can
help you through the process. Now, we just went through four days where she's the second coming and the greatest and the smartest and the most amazing. So how comes you can't do in an interview by herself? Why can't she answer questions by herself? Why can't she debate without notes? Because all of that is bullshit. This is marketing, This is a brand and it might be winning. But in the end, will people really choose a fake like her? We'll debate that and a lot more in a moment
or two time. Looking forward to a conversation with Joe Hildebrand, James Morrow, Nigel Faras. Just getting started here we go tonight on pul Marie Life by our goods This the Titans are here on Tuesday night Morrow from Sky News and the Daily Telegraph. And similarly of both parishes, none other than although well both and both will somehow get Elbow's call return quicker.
Jacob Jade and I always end up agreeing with each other.
Yeah, let's see last night on Channel two. I tried not to talk about the show that who cares any more? But still a question from a lady of a certain age and a certain cultural background, we got the internet.
Very pissed.
My children, now almost thirty and thirty four, went to the local state public school and were dictated to that multi culturalism is a great thing. I don't believe it is, as I feel that the culture of the original British slash Irish majority has been demonized constantly for the last three decades. Case in point, frequent vandalism of memorials to Captain Cook. How does this? How does democracy fit into this atmosphere of beat up the white guy?
Well that was a very hot pepper, achieve Jimes, You quite correctly push back online today about just like okay, there is a certain world view of a certain series of people form a certain period of time that they're allowed to speak. Yeah. Well, I mean, this is the whole thing.
And you know, if we look around the world right now, Paul, there's this massive push against free speech, and a big part of that is saying, don't talk about things around immigration, diversity, multiculturalism, you know, because if you do your alt right, you're hard right. And what happens is you don't talk about the problems that also come with multiculturalism. You know, it's not just all great restaurants and you know diversity and you know, different skin colors. It's actually there can be
cultural classes, there'll be a lot of other things. You need to talk about them, you need to work them through. And a couple of points that I'm making it's in Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph, is that you know, you can say multiculture society is great, but there's also research that says it fragments people and that it actually leads to lower civic trust. And you know, the other thing too, is that when you don't talk about these things, the pressure
is build up. You get things like those terrible riots in Britain, and once you know, you see you can't talk about this, well then things explode.
Well, also, you know, Joe, to me, it is completely acceptable that anyone from everywhere is affectionate about how they grew up. Yeah, of course, regardless of regardless of whether it is you know, the place you're watching us right now or the other side of the world. So I've got no problem with people being affectionate about the way things used to be. That's just the way naturally human
beings are. What I do have a problem with is when somebody, even in artfully starts to say, well have we changed for the better or have we changed for the worse? That you can't even ask that fork in the road question because there's a whole series of verbal landmines. What's your sense about some of the overright?
I completely agree. I think there's well, there's two questions here. One is you know, is she actually right? Well, from her point of view, obviously she is. I'm a huge support of multiculturalism, and I don't think so. But more to the point, should she be able to express that and not be being liable to racist?
Absolutely, of course you should. It is obscene.
And not only is it obscene to call someone a racist when they might just be a bit old fashioned or pining for a world they knew before, nostalgic about and why.
They go up.
But it is exactly that sort of attitude that makes people like this feel that their culture or that their freedoms are under threats. So you're actually confirming the exact same fears that they're expressing, and it is idiotic and it is also moral.
Sorry, James, no, I was going to say that, Joe, what you just said that gets in to this point that I also bring up. You know, they talk about this thing called asymmetric multiculturalism, and that's where we celebrate every other culture, but the dominant Antlo culture that has
to be you know, knocked down. We see that all the time, the debates of Australia, the Captain cook stuff, anybody who's had a kid go through preschool even and seeing how they teach the kids everything about how the land there on belongs to an average rub But it's nothing about Australian civics or anything like that.
So it's it's it's a you can see.
Where, but it's the same thing exactly right. And the worst thing you can do to destroy a harmonious multicultural society is to say that the dominant culture is illegitimate. Or to vandalize Captain Cook, or to spray paint on the Australian War Memorial, or dare I say, to block one billion dollar gold mine on.
Heritage?
But again, that is the.
Minute that you were saying, okay, here high multiculture. Now and you the sort of dominant culture that.
You know you're now illegitimate?
Well, what of course that is going to make that dominant culture less accepting of other cultures.
Maybe it's a circle exists. Yeah, maybe it's a circles that I roll in. But tim cost still significant anti gambling person has turned around and has said that the challenge facing the Abana government around advertising of gambling is similar to the challenge of Howard taking on guns post Port Arthur. Now, again, as I said, I might be living in the slightly separate world. I very occasionally bet and lose on these apps. You know, I'm a poke's man.
But the sort of puritanical screaming about this issue, does anyone really think that this moment in time is the same as the days after Port Arthur James? Well, you know it's funny.
I like, I mean, I wasn't here for Port Arthur, although I do remember it when it happened and it was reported all over the world. It's a very big deal. But you know, the thinging point there, there's a puritanical edge to all of this, and it's like, let's just move systematically through every vice and eventually we're going to get to yours.
You know.
Well they've gone to yours, you know already. And you know, like, I'm not a gambler. I don't bet. I don't really like the bet. I do like to go to the horses a couple of times here. That's always fun. Also lose a bunch of money, never mind. But there's this sort of thing where it's like everything that people enjoy
has got to have some externality to it. And the thing is, if you ben all of these apps, you know they're already the corps in Sydney are reading illegal casinos again like the head back of the sixties and seventy.
I will say, it's a perfect example about this stuff right around around draconian this is okay, this is okay. The amount of illegal tobacco and who brings it into the country and all the problems that have come with it directly linked to the policy of making legal tobacco as expensive as possible to get right, that's not an argument to say no taxation whatever. But once you start to move in one direction, the market always finds a.
Difference, and as it does overwhelmingly to vaping as well, which of course the government is now saying the lad.
Are we at elbows port Arthur moment.
No.
In Tim Cassell, I quite liked him, and in his defense, he is actually quite literally a Puritan and he's a Baptist minister, so he's allowed to be apprited. But I think the and this is his you know, his absolute cause, is the thing he's been obsessed with his entire life. I think that there are I think the problem is firstly, the pokem machines are the real problem. I don't think the sports betting is a real problem. I mean, you can manage to lose a lot of money betting.
On sports, and a lot of people do both.
But it strikes me the poker machines are the real ones that just over up all your cash, So maybe focus on that. And secondly, I'm just not sure that it's the right time. And I don't think you boys make a direct comparison to port Arth and saying this is as bad as guns or a killings, where you're saying that every once in a while it has to make a moral stand, you know, regardless of the sort of politics of it.
I think that is standing there.
I was going to say, I would say very immorally that the time to make a moral stand is not now.
So look at you, Look at you. All right, thank you, Let's do appreciable read you will watch you, We love you, We'll see you all very soon. Thank you. Don't forget us report Fridays here on Sky News. All right, quick break back with more lots to talk about with Nigel Faraj, including Kamala wants to bring It's to a debate. I say, Trump doesn't have to turn up and debate somebody who wants to bring notes more than a second Nigel Farage
standing by right now for us in London. There is so much to get to and I'm so pleased where the show that he chooses to appear on each and every week because mate Mate Mate Mate Kamala Harris. So apparently if she's going to do an interview before the end of the month, she's going to have as Meghan Kelly says her emotional support governor with her. But more importantly, this whole thing about the debates, all right, I get the distraction because the real thing is three since the
horror of Afghanistan. But she wants notes like, honestly, this is a person who for a whole week last week was the Second Coming and was so smart and so brave and so strong. Then why does she need notes at a debate and a minder in an interview?
Well?
Truly, there's of course, as soon as she's off script on subjects like economics, she just flaps and flounders around because she clearly hasn't got a blooming clue. Now, the rules of these debates were, of course between Biden and Trump. All the Trump team are saying is the same rules
should apply. And I think in America, in Britain and elsewhere, I see too many of these big political programs where leading figures are allowed to go in with a big crib sheet thick of notes turned to the subject and read it out. I think broadcasters need to be much much tougher on our leaders have a pencil.
And blank sheet of paper by all means.
But Team Trump are absolutely right to say no notes.
Yeah, this is my thing. It's not about microphones, because we all know the microphone thing is who just turning around going I'm speaking, I'm speaking. Who cares right, No one cares about that. It's about the notes because this is meant to be a mental test because people are busy and they go, Okay, what are you like for an hour? How do you go? We saw what happened with Biden, and I think I think Harris is going
to get her on sugar hit in the past. But I think she's trouble when they can't put her out there. It's not because they're trying to be scarce with her. You can't be scarce in an election. I mean, you were able to get millions of votes because you were everywhere. You can't hide, can you make.
No?
I mean Biden got away with it in twenty twenty because of the pandemic. They sort of locked him in his bunker in Delaware and used the pandemic as cover. Now, I mean, look, she has not given a single major press conference, a single major television.
Or radio interview.
She gets up on stage, she reads off an auto Q and as soon as she goes off that she is literally clueless. And so the point about not having notes is you're testing mental acuity, yes, but you're also testing instinct. You know, a question may come up that you hadn't necessarily thought would. It's how do you instinctively deal with that? And so often with politicians like Kamala Harris,
one senses there is a that much instinct there. The job is all about reaching you know, you know, a title, position, rank, respectability. It's more about that than what the person actually believes in. So this debate on Matepha September, it is crucial. We need to see these two people had to hand and I'm sure after negotiations, I'm sure it will happen. But she can't be allowed to go in with a crib sheet.
By the way, you know, in fairness, a couple of weeks ago, we're talking about the need for Trump to tighten up well don't know any and everyone who's making some of the decisions around him. The RFK endorsement incredible. It moves votes, it moves states. Hence why they're all going crazy at the moment trying to push back. Secondly, the tighter use of language is better. But today today he was invited by families to lay a wreath on the third anniversary of the horrors of thirteen people being
killed as they just cut and run from Afghanistan. Then he goes to a Vietnamese restaurant. Then he goes to the National Garden gives a speech where Tossi Gabbard besimy, like, the bloke's working for it. That's the guy who can win. Yeah.
I mean Trump is a workaholic.
He is extraordinary, you know, you know those big rallies where he gets up and he speaks for eighteen ninety minutes. At the end of that last campaign in twenty twenty, I think thing. But day before the election he did four or five of those massive speeches all over America. I mean, you're right, he's working for it, He's going for it. I have to say I thought that the Kennedy endorsement was not just very graceful, but I thought that the words that we used were also incredibly powerful.
And I quite like the idea of make America healthy again, you know, get people off prescription drugs, get them away from too much youngk food.
I thought all of that was okay.
You can say that Kennedy is a bit out there, but I just felt it was a very very powerful endorsement. And it's not that the wheels are coming off, Kamala, It's just that people are now seeing Trump for what he really is.
There's no doubt.
You know, when I spoke to you last week, I said to you that I felt he was going off course, he wasn't really on target. He was obsessing with Biden. I think since then he's now back doing all the right things.
Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, also the other thing with the make America healthy and firstly, don't touch the orange cheese, right, it is awesome and as a big boy, I do like that. But and Mozzarella steaks all of those things. However, it reminds me of when Drain the Swamp was first introduced, because no one ever talks about permanent Washington the bureaucracy, right, and this was this huge strain of yeah, we've got a problem there. You've now got a strain of people saying,
do we have a problem with our health? I mean, look at us compared to everyone else around the world. I think this is one of those things. And Meghan Kelly's talked about it. That is a really rich vein of people who may vote every now and then or go. You know what, I don't really care about economic policy. I care about this.
Yeah, I'm an amazing to think.
Isn't it that America which progressively gets.
Richer than all the rest of us?
I mean amazing to think America's GDP is now double the European unions and it was equal to it.
In two thousand and eight. Think about that.
So America gets richer and richer, and yet life expectancy in America has fallen quite sharply over the course of the last few years.
And that is diet in his exercise, but it's also endless, endless.
Prescription drugs, and so I think this could be a very rich sem, a very rich sem.
Indeed, good man, Thank you, Nige, we'll see you again next week.
Thank you all of.
It's nager Faraj that you can see your show on YouTube and certainly on flash as well, which of course is called Faraj. And by the way, before we go, thank you to everyone who was such a law of view of the program. But one in particular deserves a happy birthday, Christine. She turned twenty one on the weekend. All of this from her family and I placed. You and her are Heroach and every night at Ceine tomorrow