Live from Las Vegas.
This is Tol Murray Live Today Australia. Welcome to Las Vegas.
Look, I understand that it is very jarring for me to be here. Happy times, looking forward to rugby leagu and what is playing out right now in Israel's strength and love to everyone who is affected, deeply concerned. Again, you can watch all of that live on the Sky News Election channel. That is available on the Sky News app.
It's available through our website, it's available through Foxtel. So with recognition of that, and also I promise that tonight will of course be about other things in the news.
How can I not just recognize where I am.
I am in Sin City because we are here in the countdown too the rugby league, the rugby League is going to happen this weekend.
It's going to be the start of a league season.
But this is a destination now, a scenario where there are people who literally.
Travel from all over the globe.
And we've met plenty of them today as they have made their way here to get ready to celebrate their team, but also this incredible game being played here in the United States. Now, as I say, we're going to toggle between.
The fun that's happening here, the seriousness that's happening at home.
I'll obviously have my opinion on the day's events, and we are going to have Crackerjack or Killer no Filler panel this evening with Robin Bishop and Stephen Conry.
Geez.
I wonder if they'll agree on anything. Probably not going to be the case now. Also today, the teams have begun the training processes that they are getting ready before they are going to take to the field in those games on Saturday. There are going to be four of them, two NRL games, the Super League game. The jill Us are going to go around so wonderfully supported by a mates over at Harvey Norman and a man who's passionate about every little second of every person who's involved in
all of this is the Great Andrew Abdo. He is the CEO of the NROL. We'll talk about some of the behind the scenes in all of this. And the one the Only, Meghan Kelly. No, she's not coming to the footy, but she's on I'm the Telly tonight. I can't wait for you to see her. And there is so much to talk about with her. In a moment or two's time, but first let's also talk about what's happening in Queensland right now, which is a tropical cyclone making its way towards the coast. It'll be there sooner
rather than later. Now, remember this film was supposed to be tropical Cyclone Anthony or Albow, so I'll joke about that until it starts to get a bit more serious. But it feels like we're getting there, that everyone is watching us right now on sky News Regional. We're thinking of you, and remember twenty four to seven at sky News dot com dot Au our weather channel.
By the beginning of the weekend, there's a high likelihood at this stage the system should turn towards the Queensland coast, increasing winds, bringing some big waves and potentially bringing some rain to coast or pockets of Queensland.
So how strong is it going to be?
Well, let's all find out again from that incredible team who are trying to keep people informed. Your homepage would be sky News dot com dot Au. Double check the YouTube all of our socials and check out the sky News Weather Channel.
The system remains a category two storm as of mid this morning. Maximum win Gus at the System center still pracking upon one hundred and fifty five kilometers per hour.
Now over the.
Course of this week, we're tracking that system intensifying and shifting southwards.
All right, again, strength and love to everyone who's going to be affected by that. Okay, so let's get to politics right now. The Prime Minister finds another few billion dollars down the back of the couch to try to solve his problems. When it comes to the polls. Will it be the case, we'll all find out together. But the most recent Resolve poll, this is the one which people were frightened by in the Labor Party, very hopeful about in the Liberal Party and those of us that
are wanting a change of government. Pretty clear here when the primary voting Victoria in particular is so bad, it's not even a quarter of everyone that's going to be voting at the election who will be voting for Labor if that poll is correct. But certainly the Prime Minister was in Melbourne today and he had billions of dollars to hand.
Out with him.
This adds to a very long list of promises that I'll get to in a moment. But first he is the Prime Minister on the billions of dollars that is coming on top of billions more that have already been promised this year.
To make this happen, our labor governments committing seven billion dollars to build Melbourne Airport Rail, the next important step in suburban railroop. This includes our existing five billion dollars to build the rail line toer Tullomarine, funding that will build the track as well as the bridge and signaling improvements to deliver future upgrades to service Melbourne's North and West. On top of this, we'll investor further two billion dollars to help transform Sunshine Station.
Now Ever, since the start of this year, the Prime Minister has been promising billions of dollars. Billions of dollars are your money, Billions of dollars that may will not end up turning up anywhere near the budget because it'll be off budget and it's an investment. But have a look at how much money has been promised by this Prime minister since just the start of the year.
We are not even at the end of the second month of.
The year thirty and a bit b four billion dollars that have been spent thus far. But the real news today about what the Prime Minister has been trying to do, of course, when all else fails, despite the fact that more than half of the country thinks that Anthony Abernezi is the one who is doing a poor or very poor job, we must talk about Peter Dutton. All roads lead to Peter Dutton, the ugaboog of music, all the rest of it. Right Well, as you know, we told
you by the reporting of James Campbell. After the failure of the Voice, the punishment that Peter Dutton was to receive was for the Labor Party to put together a dirt unit. This was not secret, this was open, This was available. This is something that has been slowly but surely feeding certain people in the press gallery. And you may well have noticed in the past couple of days some really ancient stuff life is starting to pop up.
You know.
They want to talk.
About health policy from twenty fourteen, They want to talk about shares from two thousand and nine. They even want to go through and list all of the different properties that his family trust has owned over the years. But I want to talk about a little political tactic. Now I might be on the other side of the world. I might be getting ready to talk about rugby league. I might have a cowboy hat on and yeah, I get it, it looks like it does. But you know,
Vegas baby. The thing is that there is a trick that is a long term trick that politicians play when they know there's no real evidence, when they know there is no case, when they know that they will not go to a national corruption commission, when there is no smoking gun. What they do is to make sure that the story lasts another day and another day and another day. Is to turn around and say that the person you are trying to hurl my dad has questions to answer.
Now we have a system where if they wanted to, they could refer it to a corruption commission. They may well end up doing that in a few days time, so they can say for the rest of the campaign under a corruption you get the game, right, but just in case we are missing it. This is the official talking point of the Labor Party.
Now.
Remember, they can't talk about their own performance when it comes to what they promised three years ago on cost of living. They can't talk about how they will actually make your life better in the next three years.
No, no, no, no no, it's all about.
Let's get dotte with the questions to answer Whisper campaign.
It's up to him to tell the Australian people did he have access to that sensitive information?
That matter for Peter Dutton to explain.
What chares did he buy, how much did he buy them for?
Did he have access to privileged, confidential informational people who.
Did see The reality is is that normal people don't buy this. Right now, do I think that Peter dudn't walks on water and therefore there is there's no way he could.
Ever be quitting? Of course not right.
But if it's twenty twenty five and suddenly after a couple of years of digging, oh questions to answer, here's the documents, please, it's not even the documents. So I think this one is just about trying to fire up the dirt unit, trying to change the subject. Because remember, if the subject is what the Australian people currently say is the number one issue, cost of living, this government
is going to lose. This government is going to be pushed into a minority, a minority that might be so deep that they are going to have to have almost any and everyone in the Parliament who is not label or Liberal to hold themselves up that is going to be terrible for our country. Now they'll say it wins a win, but that is the truth. The questions to answer garbage. I'll get to that in a second. For his part, Peter Dutton, well, he can see what all.
This is about.
The Prime Minister's office is shopping around dirt sheets at the moment, transactions that go back to when I was twenty years of age. I think it reflects poorly on the Prime Minister and the desperation that he's in at the moment.
And again, why is it questions to answer? Why is the media saying doesn't respond to the questions to answer? You know, the infinite Canberra colombo, the Canberra bubble garbage, when of course the number one issue is cost to living. It's because today we've got more information, more insight about the problems that they said were the worst was behind. It's nothing to see here. We're on our way to a greater and more amazing future. Monthly inflation actually went
up in January. Now remember it's already artificially being held down because of the money that they are trying to pay off or to pay off buy off people from the biggest house to the smaller shack in the bush when it comes to power prices, because their decisions in and around power did not deliver two hundred and seventy five dollars. So all of that has of course created a fictitious story in and around inflation.
Well guess what.
Unsurprisingly, the expectation here is that the Reserve Bank is paying attention to all of this and the chances of another interest rate fall, the one that the Prime Minister hopes would happen in the final week of an election campaign. Guess what, It's not going to happen now why in part because of the numbers that are around today. Oh yeah, and you know how the government as well is not willing to talk about its own record, its own ideas
pointing to its own success. Instead, they're going back to the politics of the two thousand and sixteen election, back with many scare and all of this is based off comments they have edited from two thousand and fourteen. Honestly, this stuff is not touching the sides. It's not moving
the needle. It might fire up a few lefties, it might turn a few teals into labor voters and Greens into labor, but it's not going to move what has been that huge bulk of people that have been walking away from a government that promised for it to be better. And a perfect example of that today about why again they are trying to change the subject.
Look over here, Look over here, look over here.
They would love the distraction of the bright lights of Las Vegas in this lead up to the campaign, well Mark Butler, Today he and the government has signed.
Off on and increase in how much you are going.
To have to pay for your private insurance. Your private health insurance will go up. This will be caught up in the inflation numbers. But the hope is no one will be paying attention because by then.
Questions shru answer, question, shru answer.
We've been to this game many times before. Now few issues in and around China. You do not have to be blind, Freddy to understand that this government goes soft on China because.
There is a political advantage in this.
Now they should be as aggressive as possible in the response to China giving us the middle finger off our coasts. And how does it work that our defenses are so poor? And I'm talking about our electronic ones which should be able to monitor a few CA's of Sydney that it was forty minutes after Chinese warships started firing, that the Australian Defense Force was.
Aware of it.
And you know who found out before apparently a pilot from virgin who was flying in the area and decided to go around it.
What is happen?
Understandably the liberals, they think there are dare I say questions to answer.
This does seem to be quite menacing behavior from somebody that is supposed to be an economic partner. And indeed, a relationship that Anthony Abernezi prides himself on doesn't sound like a particularly good relationship to me.
And again, you know you don't upset China, because if you're upset China, there's one point four million voters that used to vote a certain way, then they voted a different way. And god forbid if it wasn't labor again in the upcoming election, which brings us to more federal MPs using an even worse version of.
A Chinese surveillance app than TikTok.
This one, I'm not even going to bother to promote it for you, but this is one that people were using as an alternative to TikTok when they thought the TikTok was going to be taken off the air. This thing has even less controls than that Chinese surveillance app Yet for some reason, Australian politicians they keep doing this. They are on this thing. The type of polis I'm
talking about here. There's a Liberal MP, Keith Wallahan, Labor MP Jeremy laxel teals like Monique Ryan, and even the Victorian Premier.
Why are they doing that?
Meantime, the Opposition leaders promise one that he saw not two weeks ago, but he made it after the budget in May of last year, which is the no more foreign buyers in Australia in the real estate market. For the first couple of years of his Prime ministership. This was something that was.
Popular with seventy three seventy three.
Percent of people in marginal electorates, and so much so, of course, that the Labor Party ended up knocking it off. Well guess what, Before the Clayton's ban comes into place, there has been an explosion in a number of Chinese investors in the Australian property market. The latest Foreign Investment Review Board figures released this week covered the September quarter and they showedd bias from mainland. China approved for four hundred million dollars in Australian real estate purchases buy us
from Hong Kong and Taiwan. China also approved one hundred million dollars respectively. Well, of course thy wants its own country, but you get my point. Taking it to six hundred million dollars unbelievable. Oh and by the way, if you think the Labour Party is doing exactly what the promise to Peter Dutton was, no, their ban is only on existing properties, which means Chinese investors will still be able to be the ones who can bid.
Up on.
Off the plan new places. It's not a ban. No giant surprise there, all right. A couple of other things to mention before we get into the celebration of rugby league, and then back to the big debate between of course the carryover champ in Bromwell Bishop and the man who's
just here to help Stephen Conroy. Today should have been the eightieth birthday of one of my absolute heroes, and of course that is Peter Brock, the man who won the Batist one thousand, nine times, a phenomenal Australian who sadly, of course, after an accident in the early two thousands, is no longer with us. But strength and Larva was supported by so many people. And I know the people over at HDT in Sydney. They carry on his memory and they took to social media to recognize it.
Today.
The land of Trump where I am right now in a state of course that voted for Trump.
Remember it's very red country right now.
Donald Trump in the Oval Office, well, he decided to open lake in the middle finger again to the media. This time he was handing out hats that said Trump was always right.
I have a look, right, you want one? Are you allowed to take one?
Because he'll consider And I know him well, a stiff I said, you're Brian, You're not a stifler.
Of a stiff guy. He'll take other things, but not a free head.
Always say yes to the president, always say yes to anybody like one. And speaking of the US, so have I none other than the wonderful Magan Kelly.
She joins us in moments, being pool is a big responsibility, Like you're the one who has to make sure there's eyes on the president at all times. I'm a little worried like you can't boot CNN and replace them with like a podcaster. That's that is not going to work. So I love the zealousness of it. I know the heart is in the right plays on the execution. I let's wait and see.
Now again.
I get it, there's lots of serious things in the world, but right now we are here to bring a little light in your life, to give you a bit of a smile, to give you a bit of a taste of what it's like to be in Sin City. Because literally, what happens in Vegas is not staying in Vegas. No, it is coming to your place. And this weekend what is coming to your place is Rugby League. The first round of the greatest game of all will be played at the Mighty Allegiance Stadium, the place where the NFL
Super Bowl was held just twelve months ago. And I can tell you this joint, he's already teeming with people that are ready to back in the Warriors, the Raiders, the Panthers, the Sharks, the Jillarus, some.
Teams from the UK as well.
The man who's putting it all together, along with the wonderful Peter of Landy's, is none other than the Great Andrew Abdo, and he has set up a special place for Rossi fans to turn up. It'll officially open tomorrow US time, but he gave us a little sneak peek today. The great man Andrew Abdo, he is as excited as anyone about Las Vegas two point zero for rugby League start this year.
How are you a great man?
Goat to singpoul go to be in Vegas?
Oh?
How good is it?
It is a great atmosphere. Like from the moment we left Sydney.
You know, there was a buzz on the flight, people wearing their jumpers, fans of teams that aren't even playing, just jumpers of ederall teams. And then you know when you walked on the strip and you see the signage and you see the high lights being played on the big screens.
You came but not be excited.
What's this thing? Where As you know when we were flying over there was a family from far North Queensland.
There's a lot of camber Raders people that are here, you know, panthers, people that are super excited, and there's they're not just wearing the merch that they're used to, They're wearing the stuff that's specific to hear because you get that sentence that, just like a state of origin decided, just like a Grand final, a destination has been created by you guys in the past couple of years, and people don't just want to be there, they want to commemorate being there.
Absolutely, it's a week, right, and so we've got a fan fest on Thursday night. We've got fan Hubier where fans that have traveled and we've got about twenty thousand that have traveled, and we got about ten thousand coming from England, We've got about eight thousand coming from New Zealand, and we've got about fifteen thousand and izes. So it's going to be an absolute takeover. It's a regular league takeover of Vegas. What could go wrong?
Nothing? Nothing, That's the thing. The planning is amazing. Now, give us an idea about the difficulty year two versus year one. I mean, obviously trying to work out where everything goes and then you're now trying to better it and perfect it. What's it like the second time around doing.
This similar emotions.
So we've learned a lot from year one and obviously that's helped us tremendously in preparation, but on marketing side, connecting more with US fans here, also on.
The logistics side.
But we also doubled the number of games, so we've got, you know, thinking about and little things like just having eight teams move through the stadium and preparing. You know, we've got like, I don't know, like nine thousand feet of meeting rooms sort of for each of the teams, keeping them all separate, making sure that they've got regular league high performance in Las Vegas. So just things like marking up the field in a regular league way. All
those little things have been fun. We've got a great team and everyone's been working well together and every day brings with it new challenges and new surprises. But you know, the countdown is on and what three nights will be on the eve of the season opening.
I've got to say, especial little detail about the stadium, Allegiance Stadium is that like a baking tray, the field comes out and the field goes in because they can't get enough sun while it's in there.
The logistics of these.
American stadiums, they are unbelievable. I mean, you know what it's like from the ground up to be involved in things like Allions in Sydney trying to reshape the Olympic Stadium.
Obviously sun Corp.
But this thing is the next level of like a playset about what you can do with it.
It is phenomenal.
I mean, it's a modern day Colosseum, is a magnificent stadium and as you say, the field traded bakes out in the sun and then it gets wheeled in the night before in a major event. Now, last year we had the Super Bowl just two weeks prior, so we had we needed the gross to really grow, to grow the paint out from all.
The Super Bowl logos.
So there was a lot of stress around but actually quite a good moment seeing the inneral logos and all the sponsor logos getting painted.
Over the NFL logos. It was quite a good moment.
But a lot of logistics in getting the stadium ready, getting configured. It's a bit narrower, so we've got extra support and extra padding, and obviously that turf comes in takes on an hour. It's quite nerve wracking, and then we put the posts up and the grass is only this deep because it's an artificial trade. So we've got to put reinforcements in for the post, so a lot of interesting challenges and a lot of logistics.
Also, obviously, this is about trying to introduce this beautiful game to the US and that takes a whole new level like watching Aaron Woods popping up on wrestling programs, popping up on news programs, the program that the games themselves, at least one of them is going to be on free to wear American television. That is a giant leap from where anyone could have dreamed five years ago, let alone last year.
Absolutely, I mean, we've planted a flag, but it is not a one sort. We want to keep growing and winning US fans. And we know that fans in America love Australia, they love Australian sport, and they love their sports generally.
So the opportunity to expose.
Them to and this year both men's and women's athletes, I mean the NLW players, the best of the best playing in the jill Us against England, I think is going to be a real opener for US fans. Just the speed and the intensity of Rugby League showcase at Allegiance Stadium. But as you say, on Free to Earn America, for the first time. It's an opportunity for us to
really win the hearts and minds of US fans. Get them to know the athletes, get them to know the clubs, and also, you know, hopefully fall in love with our sport.
How do we make sure that all of these players, you know, don't get raided by the WWE. You make sure that they actually leave Vegas and they don't stick around for WrestleMania in the same building a couple of weeks later.
There's one thing I know about rugby league. It's completely unscripted, and we know our athletes love playing it, so I think we're okay. Good stuff.
Congratulations Andrew see it. He's such a thrill to be here. God love Vegas and God love rugby League.
He is such a great bloke and they have put so much effort in Congrats to everyone at the Narol.
Well have a chat to be Peter Flandi's tomorrow.
And also, this ripping location is not a special little secret spot. You can come here too if you ever get to Vegas. The BrewDog Brewery people are spectacular and this is the best outdoor venue that you will find anywhere up and down the Strip.
It is twelve out of ten.
We're going to be here for the next couple of nights and in a moment or two time we get back.
To Australian politics with Bishops Stephen Conroy and Meghan Kelly.
A little bit later, when we talked to a whole bunch of rugby league fans as we're live from the Brew Dog, here.
Are Paul Murray live.
A very good friend just texted me with a very good question, which was hanging Paul, I thought you were in Las Vegas.
What's with the.
Giant sign saying New York, New York. Well, of course that is one of the sinos here in Las Vegas. And one of the cool things about the strip is that all of these these mega now they don't.
Call them Cassennasi, they call them hotels.
Well, the hotels are themed. So you've got in that shot there on the left hand side the MGM, that's the place whereber the UFC was for ages David Copperfield.
That's the one that's got you know. The big line on the other side.
Of the road is New York, New York, which is built up literally to look like the city. Go inside and it feels like you're in the city and there's a roller coaster around that at the very end of the strip, and that's the southern end of the strip that you're looking at right now is Mandalay Bay and there's a bar at the very top that I went to with mates ages ago, called the Foundation Room, and
it has a spectacular view looking back. But all of that cover charge, all the rest of that, none of that at Brudog all right, you can roll on in, sample the product and make the most of the time. We'll take you up and down the strip a little bit later and look at some of those themed some of those themed casinos. There are ones that are everything to do with you know, pyramids all the way through to Paris and Rome and all of it.
It is just an incredible place to be. And they even have their own version of the Eiffel Tower. All right.
Steven Conroy joins us in a moment or two. But brom and Bishops that carry out a champ So let's start with her.
And she's in the man cave right now keeping eye on everything for us. I do like it, all right, So Bromwin.
Questions to answer. We know it's a smear campaign. Or it is some four D chess where we get him to deny it and then four days later this happens, which means it is all orchestrated. It means we're going back to where they were when they tried to pull Scott Morrison apart towards the mid part of his prime ministership. What do you think about this stuff? And what if anything she doesn't do?
As a response, well, let's remember that the dirt file mechanism was started by Paul Keating. He had the courage to come out and deal with his own dirt file and he personally would say what was the problem with his opponent? But this man, this weak, timid prime Minister, doesn't even have the courage to back up his own dirty work. He sends out underlings to do it for him.
Mean girl Katie Gallagher or the loquacious what I mean? Seriously, I think the way that Peterick doesn't dealt with it today by simply saying I'm here to ask you questions and did so said how he had dealt with property and how he's been successful, And doesn't that show perhaps
that he knows how to deal with economic signals? Doesn't it show that he knows how to manage the economy much more than the timid, weak little man who today was just throwing away billions of dollars more without any way of trying to say whether the money was coming from, and without trying again feeding inflation.
But also, you know, when you.
Get closer to an election, you want the messages to be frankly louder, clearer and simpler. At some point in time, you want people to be able to start repeating back. The advertising that's around this stuff is very granular, very old, very inside baseball, and that keeps a certain section of the media excited. But I'm just not sure what the one two punch is here. Again, if something's coming then
none of us can see. Well, we'll all find out together, But it just feels like we've been through a couple of days. Questions to answer is the game, and that's just a way of keeping it going when the reality is For Peter Dunton, okay, he stood up, He took the questions. Remember Julia Gillard a way back when, that was her answer to questions to answer for her way
back when. And then you say, well, you know we're done with this, right I don't understand how a twenty twenty five election campaign can be defined by things said and not said in twenty and fourteen, or things done and not done in two thousand and nine.
Well, Alberaneze wouldn't even answer today whether or not his Coca Cabana mansion is negatively geared. I mean, he just refused to answer. I mean, there is no consistency in the way the story is being dealt with at all. And I think it is interesting that it was only one journalist on one paper that chose to run it. And I think that Peter Dutton, by coming out and dealing with it, has dealt with it. And then we go back to the questions of the fact that inflation
for January has in fact risen again. I mean, this is the man who they were ready the ALP to go to the polls on the seventh of December. As I've told you, he lost his nerve and every day he stayed since it's got worse and worse, and it's not going to get any better, all right.
Stephen Conroy joins us in a second, till then one way traffic to carry have a champ and many people be more than happy for that to be the way that this segment works is the wonder all Brodwin Bishops. We're here in Vegas getting ready for the footy. You'll see it all on Fox Sports and KA and we'll be celebrating that again here tomorrow night with even bigger insights into this beautiful, beautiful city that.
I know oh so very well.
I know the Gold Coast at the back of my hand. I know Vegas by the back of my eyelids sometimes. All right, let's talk about some polling that showed that the Teals aren't moving anywhere. Now, Sorry, you want to talk about Vegas. This is what you're desperate to get in on Vegas. Got a Vegas story before me, Bromwin.
I was just saying, I am here being there.
I love to be in the game.
Yeah.
Well, I'll tell you what it's It's what about half past two in the morning here, and it's about half us nine in Canberra, Melbourne and Sydney. So you know, I'm right, I'm fine to be doing my best work here in the middle of the.
Night in Vegas and in primetime on Sky News.
All right, So about the Teals, So they're put forward or someone has put forward a whole bunch of polling that shows nothing's going to move for the Teals.
Now this again, we've been looking for the data.
We know that in certain seats that there were very close results when it comes to the referendum.
But how do you think the Liberal Party should deal with this?
Because the reality is that they seem to be making very good inroads in suburban areas and to maybe take on a till then they've got to moderate in a way that maybe the suburbs don't want. You're a person who of course represented a seat that ended up going that shade of green. What's your advice about this polling and your reaction to it.
Well, it, first of all, have reminds me of the polling that went on in the latter part of the Trump campaign when Iowa rolled out, the Democrats rolled out hitherto Fall, well respected polster who said that Harris was going to win and she was aired by three points. Then you had the New York poll that said he was going to win. All those seats that in fact were one by North Carolina and Wisconsin and so on Nevada,
they were all won by Trump. So what shows is that polling itself has become a tool to be used in campaigning, and that is exactly what's happening with the Teals polling. And if you look at the statement that the Member for went Worth May the other day when she said she would be prepared to talk to mister Dutton to indeed perhaps back him, because that's the sort of statement you make when you're alarmed that you're losing votes. So I wouldn't be too too fussed about that polling.
I think it's a tool that Time at two hundred are using. They use every trick in the book. They really are a dishonest slot.
I'm not going to go down the full rabbit hole here, but Stephen Conroy, well, due to the joys of time zones and all the rest of it. Finally, and he's here to hell and he's in Adelaide right now, Stephen, I'll give you one minute on why questions to answer Peter Dunton two thousand and nine is the stop the precious moment of this election.
Look, I think it'll be fish and chip rapper by next week at the latest. So I think there's it's a good distraction. It's a clever bit of nimbleness to respond to some of Dutton's nimborenness recently, but on the fundamental points, Broman was dead right. You saw the oil and gas industry put out a poll in Chiney seat in West Australia saying, hy, it's all over, she's finished. We should take that with the same grain of salt
that Broman just described. We should take the climate two hundred polling as a grain of salt.
So talking about I mean we're talking and off their often about this question of data and data when it comes to seats. We know that there's the Red Bridge stuff and the Yugub stuff that's turned around and said, oh, seventy three is the tippy top. We know that in the freshwater they have suggestions of how many will be one, how many.
Will be lost?
Again from both of you as people who know how to read numbers, and obviously we all get to know together the true result.
Are we getting a better flow.
Of information or are we just getting more information Stephen about some of the granular stuff in and around elections, and that partly builds narratives rather than just an insight as to what's going on.
Yeah, look, I think some of the polling that you've just mentioned there is beginning to give us a more informed view. I think some of it is going to be color movement and noise for exactly the reasons that Bronwyn has just described. But as numbers build up in both the seats and adjoining seats, a sort of redbridge what they're calling the rolling track or rolling pole, some of the freshwater polling will built on its previous polls.
You go, I hope we'll have greater numbers, because at the moment those numbers in each seat are probably too small to be taken too seriously. But I'm assuming they're going to be building those numbers for it so you can get a better picture. But you're needing I would idee I'm going to be unkind to the pulses because I pull their hair out because it costs too much money.
But over a three or four week very net about.
Eight hundred to one thousand to be able to begin to feel comfortable A three hundred pole in a seat not worth the paper it's written on. But the rolling averages, where the bottom numbers from a week ago drop off and the new numbers come on, you might begin to get a flavor. If that is an eight hundred sample.
There's another thing.
That well, we're actually going to get a version of that on Sorry Rob, and I was going to say, we're actually going to get a new version of that rolling stuff. We'll have a chat to Coss on the team from Redbridges, part of our conversation about the state of the race that will be on Sunday here on Palmria Life.
Sorry Bromin.
I was just going to say, there's that feeling on the ground when people are prepared to raise it with you, when you're standing in a queue at the supermarket, when you you're in what is normally an area where nobody wants to talk politics, people are prepared to say they want to change a government. And that's the sort of feeling that may or may not be reflected in those polls.
But when you're in a campaign, and I've been through a few, you know a feeling on the ground when something is starting to move.
Yeah.
Absolutely, And look, we'll find out more as it rolls on, whether that election is called this weekend or not. Will be all across it all day every day here on Sky News. Make sure that it is your homepage. I'm telling you sky news dot com that are you. Make sure you follow a like, subscribe all of that business on YouTube.
Get the podcasts. That's the plugs now.
By the way, thank you Steven Conroy for turning up because there was some threats, but because I'm here living it up in Las Vegas. You know hattan all very comfortable fat guy shirt that I've got on. You were going to go on a workband, but no, you showed me that you're the bigger.
Man, mat a man. You turned up. You turned up.
I'm wearing sunglasses next week. If you're going to wear more shirts like that, Paul and I'm more important.
I hope you're able to check in the hotel.
Ok.
I've been reading stories for you. Not every robe's out. A checking hotel is easily. I've had in a slaving bassball recently.
That's a very good point.
There may be a story about that at another time, just when I make sure I've got my head on a pillow at some point tonight. All right, let's talk about Matt Kean, because Matt Kean is out and about saying, oh goodness me, if there's a change of government, then I won't continue on as the Labor Party's independence.
Are when it comes to climate change. I think that Australia should have a system.
That is much more like the American one, which is when there's a change of government, when you can you remove as many people as possible who are going to try to slow play the ball. Could you care less about the plight of Matt Kean Bromwin.
No, I couldn't. And I think it's quite pathetic to see him crawling and saying, please, you saved my job. I mean, really, this is the man who's been behind so many untruths regarding climate change. As I used to say, Malcolm Turnbo was the organ grinder and Matt Kean was just the monkey. And he's proven to be just that. And he's obviously available to whichever side pays him the most, and now he's going to wins because he might lose it.
There is a very big case to be made out to get rid of so many quongos as they are known in the political parlance, all these sorts of agencies that are really are a waste of taxpayers money, and we should get a whole list of them and start to go through them with a red pencil and start with the one that is headed up by Matt Kean.
Yeah, well that's of course part of the focus on ambijinper Price Aussie doage. We'll get to her later. Final one here is Steven about a word of comfort for mister King.
Now, look, I've unfortunately evolved from being a supporter of the true British parliamentary Westminster public servants. I'm now much more in favor of what you were suggesting that there should be a much broader class of public servants that fall into that political appointment category. I think governments of both sides are increasingly frustrated with who they inherit along the way, so I think there should not be any surprise if a government wants to put in place to
people who will deliver on its agenda. I wouldn't reach as far in as Trump and Doge you've been doing, because obviously then you've got to rehire the people you stupidly sacked that look after the nuclear arsenal for instance. But I do think Paul your suggestion that there needs to be a much broader and deeper group that the governments of the day, the newly actually are entitled to a point that is a better model moving to more of the American than the British.
Well, I like it, Thank you, lad lady. We'll talk to you again next week.
I've got to jump because I want to talk about the people that are here and celebrating Rugby Ley.
We'll talk to you guys.
Again very soon. Sorry, b I'm going to cut you off. We've got Meg and Kelly standing by, which is why I've got to be quick.
Here.
These are some of the thousands and thousands of people, more than forty five thousand people who've already bought a ticket to the game this weekend. All right, boys, how we feeling Raiders in Las Vegas?
Oh?
Very confident?
Why did you come to Vegas to watch the Warriors?
Because I going to win the Warriors of course, hopefully Panthers the Panthers again.
Here we go, here we go, So I have to change, but I mean, always a Warrior. But yet how do you end up a sharky stand.
Because I bought the shirt when I went to Australia to watch employee.
So piecing our time? What do you want to do here in Vegas?
Our way down the.
Street, We're got a helicopter over the Grand Canyon.
We're going to get into the sphere.
We're going to the ice hockey and of course then are off. We're going to fly up and down the strip with local music.
See the lights.
It's a mind bending place, isn't it. It's just you look around and you go, this is the way Disneyland should be.
It's unreal.
It's just bigger than life.
I like it here. It's a bit of an eye opener and a lot going on.
We've literally just hopped up the plane so it's still are the bright lights and everything's rafteen.
There's the people that are watching at home if their team plays next to you, why come to Vegas?
Why wouldn't you look at it?
It's just the once in a lifetime opportunity.
It's amazing. Yeah, we've got to do it. Yeah bloody, it's a good fun got to get.
You just do it, Just just go.
You have to go and experience the lights, the found everything, the shows, the concerts and of course three.
Hopop granoa up the Panthers.
Let's go.
Welcome back to Vegas.
We are here getting ready for the Rugby League this weekend. Now our favorite person to talk to each and every week is the wonderful Meghan Kelly. Now sadly she's not in Las Vegas, she's on the other side of the country.
But isn't it great to be in trump Land? Baby?
I'm so jealous. I wish I were in Vegas. I mean, put one hundred bucks on Black seventeen and Roulette for me.
Now.
I want to get some Vegas stories from you in a second, But let's deal with some of the news that's around this week, including lefties have now worked out a new headfake that will apparently completely pull apart megaland now James Carvill, who of course put things together for Bill Clinton about thirty years ago. He said Kamala Harris was definitely going to win, and then he said he
always knew she wasn't gonna win. And now he says that the Trump administration is going to dissolve in the next thirty diys.
It's amazing. It's just wishful thinking. You know, remember Rick Wilson, that Lincoln Project guy. The night of the election or before the election, like Trump's going to lose, He's going to lose badly, He's going to be a bloodbat. I mean, it was like he's still out there drifting. He's actually still out there trying to raise money with a Lincoln project. Okay, I mean, good luck, enjoy that. That looks like a
lot of fun. No one's listening to you. But I have to say I'm kind of I'm kind of surprised by Carvil who he's not woke. He's been trying to speak straight to his party for a long time about how wokeness is driving them off a cliff. He wasn't a Kamala Harris fan. He was one of the smart voices saying we do need to get rid of Biden, but we should have an open primary to get somebody
who could actually win in there. He wasn't pro Kamala, and then in the end he got on board because he's a good little Democrat and did what he needed to do. But to hear him say Trump is dissembling and in thirty days his presidency will basically have collapsed, that's crazy talk. That's like you've been hitting the peyote. I mean, I haven't even heard the lefties on MSNBC
talk like that. So I'm not sure what's going on there, whether he's trying to manifest it, you know, how like the girls do they manifest the skinny thighs, skinny thighs, skinny? Is that what he's doing? Not sure that one's not going to end well for him. We'll talk in thirty days now.
I love when Trump gets into the head of the media. He's lived there free for the best part of ten years, and as the president. I love today that he was handing at Trump was right hats to the media. I of course respectfully declined them because you know their bosses would be offended. But also today some controversy that the normal people who get to follow the president around might be doing that anymore.
It's funny because on that one, I actually I'm not worry. I'm not sure if that's a good call to be honest, the pool thing, because I know what they're trying to do. But being pool is a big responsibility. Like you're the one who has to make sure there's eyes on the president at all times and that whatever he's doing is being recorded. God forbid anything should happen to him. You've got the responsibility for letting everybody else know. You do
need a journalistic outfit with resources. You know, it takes a lot of resources to cover the president like that. You got to you gotta have the right to cameras, you got to have the right wires, you know. Just think what it takes to do a normal shoot, like a two person shoot, never mind with the president, and now think of yourself as the only one who might have eyes on him, like it is an expensive and
an important responsibility. I just I'm I'm a little worried, Like you can't boot CNN and replace them with like a podcaster's That is not going to work. So I love the zealousness of it. I know the heart is in the right place on the execution. I let's wait and see it because this needs to be handled.
Well, that's a really good point because people need to understand.
Look, it's hot todd right now for Trump and the end of working and all the rest of it. But the reality is maybe the next election the one after that, who knows, but the tide is going to go back out.
So people need to understand. If you are, like me, excited.
To say the establishment media copying it, well, guess what when a Democrat's in there, they're going to boot out a lot of the media that we like. And we can't complain if we are willing to chiet Trump on while he's doing it to his enemies.
Well, and I don't think they are doing a purge. They're trying to realign who gets to be pool.
You know.
And I used to cover the White House a little bit when I was a young reporter, and you would always just get like Pool reports as follows, you know, Pool reports. They've called a lid, meaning no more presidential appearances, and then your responsibility kind of closed down because he wasn't going to be coming out. But like when the pool is on, you really do have responsibilities to make sure like you're the eyes and ears of the nation for that moment. It's not like you're in there peppering
with him with questions. It's not as much an editorial role as it is just like eyes and ears to document what he's doing and so like on something like that, it's we have to make sure we have somebody with resources in there covering him so we don't miss a moment. And it's not in amateur hands. When it comes to the tech, I'm thinking about the tech, but what's happening right now to really only the ap He hasn't really
been picking anybody else. It's totally fair game, and I would not complain if a future Democratic administration did this to Fox News or anybody else who leans right in their coverage. All he said was, you don't have the right to come into the Oval, and you don't have the right to come on Air Force one with me,
And that's totally fair. There will be somebody from POOL and there will be any other outlet that he wants to allow in those spots, but there's no right to be in those relatively private spaces for the president with him. AP did not lose their seat in the White House Press briefing room, though others are pretending they did. They didn't. That would be a much bigger deal. Trump stopped at that line because he knew it would be a big one to cross. I don't do I go into the Oval.
I do not do I go onto Air Force one with President Trump.
No.
But you know what, I managed to cover him thanks to POOL, right, I get the reports. Other outlets have access, They tell me what happened. It doesn't allow me to ask all the questions, but AP can do that in the press briefing, So they have no right to be in there. And if I may like a word on
the AP. They're absolutely disgusting. They used to be the gold standard what we would all defer to when it comes to the way we refer to certain things and events and with the language because they played it right down the middle. They are far left. They're basically Al Jazeera. Now. You would not believe the list of things are the gender insanity. You know, if it's a boy pretending to be a girl, you have to call him she her.
If it's a boy pretending a girl, you have to say he was a signed male at birth, you know, like it was a sin a doctor committed against him, as opposed to saying he was born a boy because that's what God made him. No, they've abandoned that. After George Floyd. They got rid of the word riot. Couldn't say riot in your reports in the AP anymore. Had to be protests, and then riots were resurrected and allowed only for January sixth, which could be called not protest
but a riot or an insurrection. Both were fine, but not when you're talking about George Floyd. And when you're on the subject to George Floyd, if you're talking about the looting and the crimes being committed by the protesters. You have to make sure you report on their underlying grievance. Very important. Underlining grievance has to be in there. You can't say Islamic terrorism. You can't. You have to talk
about it's they've lost their ever loving mind. So I don't care that they can't sit next to Trump on Air Force one.
Oh boom, boom boom. I love it. I love it now.
I love this city too. I've been here for box weeks. I've been here with lots of people. I've been here by myself. I've been here with my wife, and I just love the experience of this city.
What is Megan Chilly's Las Vegas story.
I'm going to tell you two things. Number One, I, as a woman, I think had a very different experience than you have had or are having as a man. Every time I've been in Vegas, I've been there maybe four times, maybe more. I go to the spa, I go as like a girl's trip. I might go with my husband. But you go to the spa and you get a massage, and then you go pull side and you have a cocktail, and then you put on a slinky dress and you go through the casino and maybe
you do a couple of hands of gambling. I like blackjack. I'll do a little roulette. My husband loves crap, so if I'm with him, we'll do that. Maybe you taking a show that's fun, do one of the fun like outdoor oxygen tanks. I don't know the weird stuff, but like very little time actually gambling at a table. So that's number one. And what was the second thing I was going to tell you about Vegas? Oh that what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, and it's none of your damn business.
I love it. I love it.
Say this town's got plenty for everyone. I'll see you next week when I'm back in Australia or my remains given to my wife. No, no, great town, don't worry, don't mucking around this time.
Thank you, Megan. We'll see you next week.
Okay, you too, babe, see.
You later, Rockstar.
All right, that's our show from Vegas. Don't forget the footy coming up this weekend, same time, same location here at brew Dog, the best balcony in town. Make sure you check us out again tomorrow night. Remember you can always seen me an.
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Yeah yeah, yeah, there's a whole town for that