From the skying in Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you Cherry, Happy Monday.
Lots to get to today, including good on the farmers who booed you into Allen.
She's all about renewable energy in the cities. But when she gets to the.
Places where they're getting dutted by and they fire up, well done bunnies. Now we all talk about Coles and Woolies having too much dominance, but what about them over the hardware game?
Now, like everyone else, they.
Spend half on the weekend there, but should there be other options? And what do Oasis, Prince, David Bowie and the Spice Girls.
All have in common?
Believe it or not, they all have a connection to a special guest we're going to have on the show tonight who's got some great rock and roll stories. So sit back and enjoy. I guarantee you'll pass these offers your next barbecue. They are spectacular stories and a perfect gift for Father's Day. But first, now, I'm not getting personal at the start of year, but we all know the Prime Minister is headed towards a wedding sometime soon.
I wish him, no we all will.
I disagree with almost everything politically, but I wish him nothing but goodwill personally.
See.
I think that's the difference between people on the right side of politics and the left side of politics. We don't want to get involved in how these people's personal lives work.
Good luck to.
Him, And every time he gets himself into trouble there seems to be some sort of a reference to the personal life. And again I'm not going to criticize the choices he's making in his personal life.
Good luck to him.
But I've got to say the most recent one is about as out of touch as you can get with where the country is right now. We had to sit through on the weekend back and forth conversation about his hopes to find love again after his relationship had broken out.
Blah blah blah. Who cares now again?
We understand at some point he's going to get married. Good luck to him, but that's his business, not ours. But as the Prime Minister has come out of two terrible weeks in the Federal Parliament failing to answer basic questions about who comes into the country after many months, in fact, two years of terrible economic news, a bloke trying to change the subject is who the Prime Minister is right now he's trying to change it on the personal side.
He's trying to change.
It on the professional side by hopping back into the private plane.
Now.
I don't know if it'll be one of the two brand new ones that have been delivered to his government. Yes, ordered by the previous but still not canceled by his government. But all of that means get ready for more airbus albow. He's got plenty of trips planned in the next four months, and of course that means he's anywhere but here, and by his own rules, he can't answer questions about what happens domestically because he's overseas at the time. Nice way
of trying to again change the subject. But in Australia, the a one subject is cost of living. Now it haunts this government because Australians are a doing it tough, but B they were promised a lot better. How many times have I sat here and showed you that original promise from a couple of years ago, they have failed to deliver on every single front. Well, tonight a little different way of telling that story, a little different way focusing on what the Prime Minister claims.
This is all day every day focused.
But his evidence is when he's get the travel plans lined up rarebus elbow and we're talking about the personal life, he ain't talking about what we are feeling. Interesting story comes from Believe it or Not, a report done by Unions New South Wales as Labor as it Gets. It shows that people, particularly in New South Wales, are desperate to leave the state so their dollar can go further.
They are willing to take the same money for the same job because they know different parts of the country other than New South Wales and Sydney, and specifics might end up being better for their families. So think about that, you'd be willing to move away from your family and
friends because you want your dollar to spin further. Now there are hundreds of thousands of Australians who have either made this change or are having this conversation that's happened in our family, and all the better to these people who uproot and go for a different and better life. But if you've got young kids, the support network completely disappears. If you've got older parents, well then obviously your capacity to be there.
It all changes.
But people are doing this because the abaneze economy is that bad that you can't make ends meet where you live, so you choose to live somewhere else to try and make ends meet again. The number of Australians who have got more than one job has gone up by thirty percent in the past couple of years, thirty percent. Just before everything went bad in twenty twenty, it was seven hundred and forty five thousand people who had more than one job. Today you can whack thirty percent onto it
and it's almost a million people now. I seem to remember an opposition leader who was pretending that one of the great indices of failure of the cost of living crisis under a previous government was the number of people who had more than one job. Well, if it's gone up by thirty percent since then, as well as twelve interest rate rises, as well as the number of people who are leaving their friends and family for the same amount of money to try to make ends meet. Guess
where the reality is of Australian politics. It doesn't give a tuppence razoo to use the old school term about the Prime minister's personal life. It is not distracted by the Prime minister's personal life. It is not impressed by the Prime Minister rubbing shoulders with world leaders who, by his own admission, it's optional about whether he attends these meetings or not. You see, Albanezy thinks that if he can simply be anywhere but here, then somehow we will
all think differently of him. There is no evidence to suggest that that would be the case at all. And then there's an area of inflation that we have been talking about for a long time. I have been focused on it for a couple of years because I saw that it stuck out like the dog's proverbials, because while the headline number was a little up a little down, generally higher than where it should be according to the Reserve Bank, which is why we're thinking about a thirteenth
interstrate rise on this bloke's watch. However, the Parliament House Press Gallery tells you that apparently the tenth, eleventh, and twelfth completely fine, but it's the thirteenth that'll.
Break the back.
The number of people who go to services to get the money before they get paid before they get paid is going up. Finder who tells us about seventy something percent of people. Close to eighty percent of people are in serious financial stress right now. They claim after a survey that they did that fourteen percent of people who responded to them.
They've worked that out to be two and a half.
Two point nine million people have used a pay on demand service in the past six months. So let's say you get paid on the fifteenth, but you run out of money on the first. So you go to them and say, look, I'll give you what's left over, but can you give me my pay on the first, not the fifteenth, and then I'll pay you back on the fifteenth.
Of course, if you fail that, like the business model of many of those people would, why the interestraates are through the roof and you financially find yourself up the river. Then again, the reality of a Prime Minister who wants us to be distracted by his personal life and impressed because he flies around the world. The number of Australians who are handing back their private health insurance, those numbers
are now hitting record numbers. The consequence of that is not just more pressure on the private system, but it means the types of things that result in you not being sent a bill when you call Triple O. Your capacity to get elective so called elective surgery done faster, your capacity to have your choice of doctors and midwives and all the rest of it. When you're having kids,
all of that disappears. But when people are faced right now with the choices of how they're going to pay the bills, how they're going to put the food on the table, how they're going to pay the power bills, that again, this blow promised would be better, but are not. No one is impressed by the wedding plans, and no one cares about the Prime Minister's itinery to fluff around overseas.
Now to the insurance point.
Again, I have been hammering on this because every month, every quarter, when we have a look at the CPI, the cost of insurance is going through the roof, not just the health insurance, but the insurance on your car, on your home, on your boat. Because God forbid, it gets damaged in a natural disaster, somebody buggers it up, somebody steals it, somebody damages it. There's a whole bunch of reasons why we ensure the things that we own. Have a look at this me. You know it because
you're living it. But I went and check the numbers today. These are the past three years all basically the same period of time about how much insurance has gone up. It went up by three and bid percent. Then I went up by eight and a half percent from the three and a half percent.
Then I went up by.
Another six point four on top of the eight point three, on top of the three point four, which is eighteen point three percent inflation on insurance insurance policies. Well again today, more data, more information, not just bleeding, beaching and moaning, but data to drive home my point about why the prime in this and his government is in a world of pain. Now you will see in the next twenty
four hours. I am deliberately intending not to debate it that Jim Charmers has got blanket coverage in much of the clickbait media tonight because he said that Peter Dutton is the most divisive leader in a deck who cares. These people are in charge of an economy they promised to do better that has gone way back.
The cost of paying off a house is twelve times higher.
Via interest rate rises that has increased by twelve times on their watch. People able to take care of their own health backwards, food backwards, insurance backwards, petrol backwards.
You name it.
Unless you're in the public service where they've got the best payer one in ten years. Or you're a member of the Federal Parliament that's got three pay rises since the last election, or the people who work for the people in Federal Parliament who again have one of the highest pay rises of all time.
You are in a.
World of pay and you will not be distracted by what this bloke is trying to do to change the subject, because we saw in the Northern Territory when the Labor Party consistently and continuously tries to gaslight and electorate youth crime is not as bad as you think. It's actually coming down. We're really on top of it. Guess what people see the reality of their own circumstances. They put on a size nine of the rossy boots and they
punch you as hard as they possibly can. Meantim again about insurance, the number of people who are now giving up on it because they can't afford it, meaning that if there was a flood or a cracked roof tile, or somebody breaks a window, or somebody steals the car, or somebody sinks the boat, then you are up the creek without a paddle.
This is a mob called Actori's Institute.
Steeper home insurance premiums have caused a number of Australian households experiencing home insurance affordability stress to go up by thirty percent. That's now one point six million people. Not over the past decade, not over the past five years, in the past twelve months. Why because it went up by three point four percent one year eight point five on top of three point four six point four on top of eight point five total in the past three years.
Insurance up up up eighteen percent. The Home Insurance Affordability and Home Loans at Risk Report catchy Title found that of these households, they were spending, on average of houses nine point six weeks of their gross income on house insurance. So you've got to work for like months to be able to pay off the overall insurance seven times higher than the average household overall. The proportion to push the proportion of affordability stress in households facing more home insurance
premiums are more than one month's gross annual income. I apologize. They rose to fifteen percent this year. It was twelve percent last year. Here's a map. If all the garble word doesn't work the darker the color, the harder it is for people to pay for things like home insurance. Oh but the details of when he's going to get married, in his previous love life and the breakdown of his love life. And please think of me as a great world leader because I know how to jump on and off a private jet.
Shove it. I meant. I'm thinking about planes.
As we know, we have a system where basically, if you want to fly, there is really only two options. You'll end up flying contits or you will fly Virgin, both fine airlines. Personally, my preference is Virgin, God love them. But there are plenty of examples of lots of different airlines, both here and overseas, where when your flight gets canceled, well they don't.
Give you any money back.
You end up either being stranded or put you up in a hotel. But the point is you don't end up with any money. Now, interestingly, the federal government is thinking about changing this. They want to introduce a thing called the Charter of Rights, meaning that you, as a passenger would be able to, among other things, get money back if you want to if you don't catch the flight you want to. Australians would be able to access cash refunds for canceled or unreasonably delayed flights under a
much anticipated crackdown on the aviation sector. The White Paper was handed down this morning and has hoped to trigger a flight revival. Sorry some slight pushback here from the soaring costs after the collapse of two airlines, that being Bonds and Rex. The government's using the White Paper to talk about a thing called a Charter of Rights entitling airline customers to refunds for flights that are disrupted, canceled or unreasonably delayed. Good idea, he's the Aviation Minister.
What we all want to see is in fact that customers get what they pay for. You've bought a ticket. If the flight doesn't go, or the flight doesn't go when you expect it to go, you should expect that that's the service that is provided. And so really this is about providing remedies to consumers.
And they would introduce a new organization which you would be able to complain to, which would help you get back the refund.
But don't get too excited.
Despite the fact that this government, if it wants to, can pass whatever legislation it wants as fast as it wants. This will not be created until twenty twenty six, So nothing will happen this year, nothing will happen next year, and who knows when the year after they will create the organization that will help police whether or not you can get money back if a plane does not turn up when you want the plane to turn up. Meantime, eagalize over at the Daily Mail. Notice that again some
woke language is used in all of this. Anthony Albaneese is government vowed to improve the rights of airline passengers, but a technical change has us He's laughing woke. You see, the telecommunications industry has a thing called the telecommunications ombardsman. The term ombardsman is essentially a person who will investigate complaints on your behalf. In most of the areas that business is on one side, government is on the other side. The ombardsman puts out a report. The ombardsman is often
somebody who is supposed to be independent from government. But because this is the Albanezioso woke government, guess what they got rid of.
The man in ombards man.
New efforts to protect passengers rights will be spearheaded by an ombud not an Onmbirdsman. The Federal government's aviation white Paper has revealed the gender neutral shift appears to be the first of its kind in an official government communication, departure from Ombud's schemes such as the fair work on Birdsmen. So when they're starting a new one the lot, they call it an Ombud. If they're still running one, it'll still be a call on Onbud's mun But somebody will
be hoping to change that sometime in the future. To my first point, interest rates have gone up twelve times on these people's watch, insurance has gone up by how much in.
The past three years?
Petrol they charge more tax than ever before. The Prime Minister thinks he can distract you by personal life anecdotes, or look at how big a world leader I am, because I'm going around the world on a new private jet that's going to cost him and the Governor General or ass actually about the same amount of money as the voice did, about four hundred.
And fifty million dollars.
Seriously, these people, you'd say that they're ostriches or emais and they got their head.
In their sand. But I think it might be somewhere else.
To the CFMEU now we all know the stories, we all know the allegations that have been made against them, and we all know the obvious case for policing and better policing of the CFMEU. But this Labor Party that now wants to pretend it's getting tough on the MEU. You of course got rid of the standing Royal Commission into the Building Industry, which, among other things, exposed some of the behaviors of the CFMEU.
But tomorrow get ready.
For the ce FMU and you're part of Australia to walk off the job, highvis and everything. But your union proud, scream yell and they are ready for what they call a war.
Message to the Labor Party, what's your membership disappear? You're all vaded up to look after work and people do your job, run the country. Your membership is going to disappear. It's a disgrace what you are doing. Yeah, if I've got one message for our union, it's probably the old saying it's darkest before the dawn, or just makes me think that we've got a battle on our hands. Maybe not a short battle, it could be a long war.
Well, you know that they're getting ready for one, because they're using terms like war and they're quoting Batman Darkest.
Before the Dawn.
Seriously, this is the sort of staff to expect in the next little while. Now, remember this is the very same union that's been demanding stop go lollipop people. Have I offended lollipop people, lollipop persons or with the onards things at lollipop Okay, lollipops around Australia who are still they claim being paid two hundred thousand dollars or need to be paid two hundred thousand dollars because sometimes it's hot and sometimes it rains when they lollipop.
Of course, union protests nothing new.
He's won from a couple of years ago when they were fighting over in and around the same things. And things even got so testy that at the Federal Government office block in Brisbane, a member of the CFMEU decided to push so hard against the door that it broke.
Bringing it home with a bang.
The front doors of Waterfront Place in pieces after a rowdy protest for better pay and conditions.
Nothing to see here.
Interestingly, John Setka, who is now out of the CFMAU in Victoria, is a man who is still deeply union proud got the tattoos to prove it, and he did an interview last on Channel seven. He told an interesting story about an apparent interaction with the OsO tough Prime Minister.
You're not going to say what you said to the Prime Minister in the lift, but tell me what was his reaction to what you said?
Did he have a physical reaction to what you said?
I didn't say anything bad to him.
Was he scared? He was scared?
How do you know he was scared?
Well, when someone stats trimming, you know he's scared. And evens I hadn't even said a word.
Now I didn't believe him, or don't believe him. But the only person who you think could respond is the other person in the lift. Oh no, there was a minister sent out to speak on the Prime Minister's behalf about a lyft ride that they didn't know much about.
Anyone who's met the Prime Minister would know that he'd be happy to get on a left with that, and John Secker, anyone wouldn't make him tremble. I think it's just John Secker trying to beat his chest and try and be the tough guy, and unfortunately that's been the problem.
Now, of course, the difference between if you did happen to get into a lift of the Prime Minister is that you might get out on floors one, two or three.
He'll go to the penthouse because you're paying for it. Mean come John and Seeker.
Had plenty to say as well about why he decided to pull the pin on his involvement with the c FORMU in Victoria.
The truth is there was a deal struck I offered myself when I heard that there could be an administrator appointed. Struck between who between our union, our national office and my understanding was Burke, Minister Burke. I said, you know what, I'll go. I will pull the pin today, but they leave the union alone. And at twenty to six the call came through. Yes there's a deal.
Now.
Also very interesting here is that obviously the Labor Party has now finally seen that they have to create some sort of distance between themselves and the CFMU. Interestingly, though some people with connections to the CFM you still sit on the National Executive i e.
The Board of Directors of the Labor Party.
They of course would be serious about severing ties with parts of the CFMU if those people were ushit out the door. But you know, minor details process story, nobody's interested in that.
That's it.
Where will the CFMU end up, Where will the muscle on the polling places end up? Where will their considerable amounts of money Remember, of course they run or have connections to superannuation funds. Well, of course that may well end up being the Greens. Ironically, the bloke it was telling you about the Prime Minister and Lyft is now telling you about the CFMU and the Greens.
It would be nice to hear from the Greens why they don't actually support this bill, But instead they spent the best part of three days curling up into a little ball, hoping that this argument can avoid them and hoping that they don't have to take a position. Well, I'm sorry, but you're going to have to take an addition, The only reason the Greens can be possibly opposing the legislation that we're putting forward is that they are desperate to carve off donations to prop up their campaigns.
Now, I want to signore what is about to happen to Dan Tian Dan ten is a Liberal member of Parliament is of course the shadow Immigration Minister, and he has been tharmby the government for the past couple of weeks and if this government goes to minority or even worse, it'll largely be because of his efforts in the past two weeks.
Is the Minister aware of any concerns from security or intelligence agencies about any of the thirteen hundred people who have arrived in Australia from the Gaza warside. Isn't this why Australians are disappointed in the Prime Minister and now saying he is incompetent and dishonest. How many of the twenty nine hundred visas from Gaza have been canceled? There's no concepts of it's just a question of how many.
Now he represents a part of Victoria that is in and around Warnabull.
Now you know we love Warnable.
We've done an ourtown show from there, speaking of we're off the wa this week, very excited.
Warnable's a beautiful part of Australia.
And guests who decided today to just focus on the teal challenger to the man who has caused so much trouble for the government when it comes to who comes to the country and the manner in which they come.
Well, the Cydney Morning.
Herald, The Age The Brisbane Times decided today was the day to give the coverage to the Teal.
Challenger to Dan Tean.
Now this is of course done by the opinion section, not the news section, because you can say so many more nice things, a little bit like ween Zalie Stegel launched her campaign to ask then former Prime Minister Tony Abbott again. This was launched very in a beautiful arrangement with a right along.
With Us profile on the ABC.
The ABC even went to the electorate the day before the federal election. The puff pieces were already out and about just as the campaign was launched. It's almost like they know exactly what they're doing here, and what they do is they try to highlight one of the Teal targets, focus the media on it, and therefore try to get a result. Now, interestingly, when it comes to this situation, yes, the Teal candidate who claims not to be a Teal and I'll get to that in a moment or two,
is time. The first time they ran, they got about ten percent. They've got about nineteen percent in the most recent federal election, so they got it to technically marginal, but Dan Tee and even when the water was going out on the previous government was getting close to fifty
percent of the vote. But of course the reason the Teal is able to get there is because you add the Labor Party together with the Greens, together with the Independent, and then oh magically we're forty something percent and two
party preferred. You're notited Australia Party one nation. Your preferences matter why because if you muck around and go fifty to fifty, you're going to end up with Labor Party people or Teal people, and I'm pretty sure they're not going to be the types of people that will represent you in the fashion.
Of which you like.
Now, of course, should technically say he's not really a Teal because he's got orange T shirts, but he's got Teal money, which.
Would suggest to me that he's actually a Teal. Now.
Of course, what they want is programs like ours to blow up and overfocus on this seat. This is the last time. I'm most likely we'll talk about it for many, many months. But when you see magical references that the next on the Teal target is Stantean, they're doing it because he's effective, very effective in the Parliament. And they're doing it because they hope that we end up talking about it, we talk the challenge into reality. Wait, watch
and see, because I won't be adding to that. I just wanted to tell you what's going on and how they go after the people who disrupt the left's narrative every time. Now, I mentioned at the start of the show, we all know how powerful in supermarkets Coals and Woolies are. And yes there's Aldi, and yes there's IgA, and yes there's technically other people around, but these are the two big ones.
But when it comes to hardware or plants.
Or anything else, it feels like you're more likely to see a Bunnings than you are to see your local hardware store or local nursery. They've all closed up over a while because essentially, this big ship flies in and the range is great and the people are love. I get all of that, right, But just as when one supermarket or two supermarkets are kind of in charge of everything, well, what happens to the people who try to sell things in those stores? Are they selling them for fair amounts?
Does the big company screw them down? Well, interestingly, this is going to be the focus of a inquiry in the same way that the supermarket CEOs were brought in and finger waving, And I generally don't like the tactic
because not much happens after it. But now that we have a code of conduct which is going to be administered by the federal government about the behaviors of Colson Woolies and the people who sell to them to make sure that you get a fair price so they can keep on with their businesses, well, this may well be what's about to happen. To Bunnings. Reporter who wrote the story today for the AFR, was on the radio in Perth.
Competition should be stronger in their business and that there should be better deals for suppliers, including for plant suppliers selling to businesses like Bummings, to ensure that their businesses are viable and that the regional producers in particular can continue to sell and make a good living themselves.
We'll talk about that, and the farmer's firing up today and feeling very under looved with the wonderful Matt Canavan. We'll get him in a mund or two's time, but quickly to the United States. The bookies say the race is fifty to fifty. Why is the race fifty to fifty, because the one state that matters more than anything else in terms of the swing states, Pennsylvania, is fifty fifty. The polls seem to suggest that Nevada and Arizona a little bit stronger for Trump, but fifty to fifty.
Which is why the Robert F.
Kennedy thing matters, because if what is left of Robert Kennedy's vote, the majority of which goes to Trump, He'll win the state and then of course sets himself up to win the presidency. Interestingly, where Trump goes from here now that all of the conventions are done and we wait till the debate, I think on the tenth eleventh of September, tenth of September, thank you Team, is that there's going to be a lot more Trump rallies. They're
going to be inside, they're going to be outside. There's going to be fireworks, There's going to be no fireworks. And his campaign says, get ready for something massive from Trump every single day for the next seventy something until the country decides.
We have new reporting tonight on Trump's sprint to November. We're learning that his campaign plans to aggressively ramp up his schedule, holding several events each week, one advisor saying, quote, think Trump on steroids.
Fight fight, fight, can't wait to see it happen. Meantime, as the lefty media is still carrying not just water but parting the seas. Not it's a torture metaphor, but still for Kamala Harris, it's left to the people who go on to these now dominant establishment and access media shows to actually call bs, including on the idea that Kamala Harris has put any detail on the table. Tom Colton, Republican Senator, School's ten out of ten hits it out of the park, gets a home run, Schools seeks an out.
Do you get my point?
The American people are totally justified to conclude that Kamala Harris is a dangerous San Francisco Liberal based on what she campaigned on the last time she ran for president
and what this administration has done the last four years. Again, you would have thought watching the Democratic Convention last week that the Democrats are not in office, but they're not in power, that they're campaigning against an incumbent Republican when in reality, she's been part of the failures of the Biden Harris administration for four years.
Meantime, I'd watch all of this stuff so you don't have to.
But the passive, aggressive, snocky snowbery, frankly, that comes out of many of the people who sit on the panels discussing American politics is well reminiscent of two thousand and six. Now, I have no idea what's about to happen in November of this year. I don't know if it's going to be harrassed by a mile Trump by Trump, who knows. But the way did these people think, oh, we've got
nothing to worry about, We're all okay. And what's the difference between the orange had lady who used to work for the Biden campaign by the way, so she's not an objective contributor and the blokeho I think, used to work for George W. Bush's again a sourin contributor. When he talks about the reality of the gas lighting of the Democrats, Watch how she just ignores what he says and makes up something. This happens to Trump every day.
So this notion like joy isn't a strategy. Joy is actually what people want. This is what they want to feel right now, and they're feeling it from her. She's also laying out substantive policy proposals, which she did in her her nominating speech, and the idea of these two things are somehow mutually exclusive. I don't think that's true. And what she's doing right now is good.
The joy will continue until morale improves. People don't want to feel joy, they want.
To feel relief.
The economic anxiety is real, and it is you know, you can say inflation is down, and I know that's why the Democrats are going to argue. Not a single person who has bought a single thing in the last four years or in the last four minutes believes that. And I think you get in trouble in politics when you tell people something.
That does not match their lived experience.
So stus as people do not want to feel joy. Yes, everyone, stick around.
We're going to keep.
What garbage did you already actually said about the actual economy. But of course, the way the media exhaustly we're going to turn this word and pretend that this word is the word they're fighting against. Please wait, watch and say I'll update you on this and everything else every night here on Pulmary Life. Great Battle coming up next to Sam Crosby, Matt Canavan, and then we're gonna do a bit of rock and roll before we've done to night.
You're gonna love tonight's show. Thanks for watching, Thanks very much for watching. Senator Matt Canavan joins us right now along with the wonderful Sam Crosby. Both fire up, both ready to go because we're doing rock and roll on the second.
It's all you boys for the next few minutes. So let's get to this, Matt, what do you think happened in the NT? Now?
We know crime was the issue. Is there something bigger that happened in the Northern Territory because they didn't just change, they flogged the Labor Party, that being the Seal people.
Well, I think it does show and represent the general unhappiness Australians have right now with the direction of their country, their territory, their state, whatever it is. Obviously there were some local issues there in the NT, as always, but to receive the spanking of this kind, there probably is this underlying concern from Australians that things just aren't going that well right now. I mean pretty much everywhere you look.
You mentioned law and order, which is an issue for some but obviously everybody goes to their shops on a weekly basis, and everything costs.
More and more.
People who owe a mortgage, you're paying thousands of dollars or more on their repayments in just the last couple of years. Our hospitals are bulging and just can't seem to deal with even not life threatening but serious injuries on a timely basis. Our roads have massive potholes in them that just didn't exist years ago. Doesn't be raining any harder, but things just don't seem to be keeping up.
Our nation's sort of crumbling around us, and so I think that's what's happening here, and it's a tough time for incumbent governments that don't have the answers. Certainly federally, we've got one of those governments that's flailing around right now, I'm not really sure about itself, and doesn't really have any solutions to these massive problems facing Australians today.
Yeah, Sam, I also think it relates a little back to just the principle of what that Republican.
Bloke was saying on CNN.
I know you were taking notes, which was I'll say you here, which was him saying well, you can't tell people that the live experience is different than what it actually is. Right now, governments of all persuasions, at some point in time end up saying, well, this data says it's better than you think it is, but the Treasury has told me life's good.
Yeah, well this one's up, this one's down.
I think that's the less and for albow charmers and the rest of them, is to actually engage with something as it is, not as someone can represent it to be.
Look, I think you're right, and notwithstanding Matt's very ungracious comments about the federal government, I think a lot of these points are correct that long term governments, after a while, they have to wear the blame for everything that's going wrong in someone's life. Let me put one other theory out there as so, I think why whereas the Labor Party did so poorly on the weekend, I think this
government's last term was horribly, horribly inconsistent. You know, if you look at three chief ministers, three chief ministers, well that's right, Like if are you pro fracking or are you anti fracking? Are you pro tough on crime or you pro a software approach? I almost don't even know if it matters which side you pick, as long as you stick to it and you believe in it and
you've got some evidence to back it up. I mean, at some stage of rubber is going to have to it hit the road and you've got to hope it works. But they got eaten from the left and the right. They got all the worst parts of going to the left and all the worst parts of going to the right. At no stage does it seem like they actually sat down and thought, well, hold on, what's actually going to work to deliver the outcomes that we promised.
Well, what'll be fascinating to watch too is remember one of the negotiations currently making its way in and around Canvas is, in order to get some federal finance stuff changed, will they double the number of senators that come from territories. Now, of course that'll produce way more lefties out of the act.
But with the Greens being able to get enough of a vote to take over, say the richest part of Darwin, they've been in and around Fanny Bay, do they end up now in a scenario where they're going to start threatening for one of the four spots rather than the even divide again, potentially making it even further to the left all weight watch and sea. It is always interesting, by the way, how the riches go green first, isn't
it anyway? What about the farmers today, Matt, when they decided to give it to did you send to Alan as she was there at the Bush summit? This one was in Victoria, I think in Bendigom and mate Rita Panahy was there along with many others. This is some of the reaction that came from farmers when Alan was well talking up her own book.
Have a look.
It also provides not just a more secure form of energy, it's a cheaper form of energy. We're nearly at forty percent.
So how do we get excuse lads and John's.
She didn't like that, did she? Now?
Of course, perfect example about what's happening around places like Ballarat. Now I don't understand how Ballarat sent labor MPs back to the Victorian Parliament at the last election when that is the absolute heart of one of those areas where because Melbourne has decided we're going, we're going renewable energy, places like Ballarat are the ones who have to put up with the massive disruption to their farms. That in part is why they called bs. But she didn't like it, did she?
No, she didn't.
Paul, and I just want to segue from your last comment about rich areas going green first. I just wish we'd impose green policies on those.
Areas first too. I mean, I think that needs.
To happen, because what Tennis to seem to happen is the rich people vote for the Greens, and then the Greens policies get imposed out in the bush and the rural areas. They're the ones that have to suffer among these massive bird killing wind turbines and hectares full of mirrors and their beautiful landscapes. That's why there's this reaction going on in the bush. And obviously Premier Allen seems completely deaf to it. I don't know how she thought
that would go down well. It goes also back to what you said about politicians telling people that their lived experience is wrong, because how could you get up and say with a straight face that renewables is the cheapest.
Form of power.
I mean, everybody in that room has got a power bill in the last quarter. Everybody can see their power bills go through the roof at the same time that the Victorian government, more than any other apart from South Australia, has been rolling out renewables at a record pace. And could you say that with a straight face. And that's why people are losing trust in politicians. It's why you're seeing these reactions at the ballot post box and in
terms of baller rut at the state election. The problem there, Paul was there wasn't an alternative the Victorian levels of that election, where as Gung ho as the Labor Party on the climate agender, if not more so, that's a bit different now federally because we've got a better dot than the leader who's backing your clear energy and saying no to this reckless rollout of renewables across our beautiful, pristine Australian landscapes.
Now, Sam, I'm going to give you a very easy, very easy task right now. Could you please explain why the Prime Minister thinks calling people after or not being able to call people after the end of the workday will improve productivity. You're a smarter person than I, full bright and all well. The tape so he has time.
To think, you know what it'll do it'll boost productivity. The idea that you should be on call at ten o'clock at night if you work a nine to five job isn't reasonable, and that will lead to better relations in the workplace.
Does he know what productivity? Actually?
No, no, no, he how well you slept the night before. It's how much work you get done at work.
So I'll freely admit we are going to delve deep into white collar privileged jobs right here. But generally speaking, when you turn up to the office, you know, you work an eight hour day, sure, but actually being productive in that period of time, you're not productive for the full light house, right, that's complete nonsense. You were productive
for maybe half maybe three quarters that time. Now, if you're rocking up to work having you know, not slept, having you know, it's not going to be quality work. And so the point that he's making is if you can actually get some time, often some time to spend with your family to decompress, you're going to turn up to the office the next day and you're going to be able to process and deliver for your employer. I think that's a very reasonable point.
I think you're being a very loyal soldier there, very loyal soldier. But we'll move on because I want to get there as many things as possible before we go.
A bit of rock and roll that.
Will be in a good fight though, Jackie Lamby, Now, Okay, I understand the power of the personality. I understand how the media loves her because she fits into this lovely little slot. But the reality of her politics is that she doesn't want to be part of any dis decision making process. She just wants you to come up with the idea everyone else negotiated, and then she's the last person in the room.
He decides like it, don't like it.
She, of course, is able to rage against governments at all times, which is why when she's had people working with her they leave her party in the Senate, and why she's apparently sacked two of the three people who got elected in Tasmania.
Now, Matt, do you see up close?
I mean again, I get the brand, I get the success, I get why it works, But is it exclusive to one person as opposed to the people they can help get elected with them?
Look, I think it's just the pattern of all of these single name parties that they tend to implode because they're not based around a value set or a principal based set of principles. They're based around a person and as you say, when that person disagrees with other people, its invariably happens. When people get together the party implodes.
So it's not just Jackie Lamby. We've seen Paul Enhance lose her run the state MP here in Queensland, seeing Clyde Palmer do the same and say, look, I just don't think they're good teams, and you need a good team ultimately to get anything done in life.
So then seeing we end up with this silly world where we're going to pretend that the Teals aren't a party despite the fact they identify the same way, you vote, the same way, but they're all technically independent.
Is that the way to do it?
Look, I don't know, and I'm certainly not here to defend the Teals. However, to Matt's point, I think he's right. You know, in one of these parties that are branded by the individual, then they're the sort of dictator, the lead of the whole thing. At least with the Teals, you've got a situation where they're all equal and they can all have it out and come up with whatever they want. But if you're going to get me on here to defend the tials, you know, we got to talk about my contract.
All right, I love it.
I'll see you next week. Thank you very much, Sam, Thank you very much, Matt. All right, let's do some rock and roll, some great stories about the musicians that you love and the music you adore even more. A man who's metamor worked them all knows.
Them alls call them friends.
Next, who doesn't love popular music, rock music, punk music, all the rest of it is certainly the soundtrack of my life.
And I don't care what my little girl say.
Okay, bit of Taylor every now and then we'll get to ju Alipa, but I want to do the rock and roll. And a bloke who worked with Bowie, the Stones, the Spice Girls, Prince my favorite rock group of all time.
The who is Alan Edwards.
He's got a book about his life which is this absolute pearla.
It is called I was there.
At this damn book Father's Day, Father's Day, Father's Day by a copy for you and a copy for Dad, and Alan joins us.
Now I believe in the UK. Alan, love you to meet you. What a life? What a career in Congrats on the book.
Hi, Paul, thanks for the kind words about the book. Absolutely brilliant and likewise, I love the Who. What a great band you know that Roger Daltrey. He calls me up after every we have football at the weekends. He calls me up after every match and discuss the off sides and so on. Here is a great bloke and what a band.
Can you believe?
Though, within a world of rock and roll where everyone kind of gets to reinvent something every twenty years, no one, no one's got the balls to go on stage and swing a mic like Daltrey did in the seventies. They know it's been done. They know they can't do it. No one's going to replicate the Who, will they?
No?
I mean the timing to swirl it and catch it like that, and then let's not get Keith smashing up the drum care and keep whirling with the guitar. In a way, they were the ultimate rock group. Although I've got to say I grew up on the Who, Stones and Zeppelin and they were all pretty incredible in different ways.
Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous to say this. If Matt Rushmore could have fifty faces on it. They get their place there also about Keith Moon, their mad drummer, mad genius drummer. There's a story that goes back to you sort of very early days, Frankly in your career. Tell me the TV friendly version of when a lot of people thought they were going to meet the Who, but they were no chance of meeting the Who.
Well, we're talking about Keith Moon coming in the office or going up to the who geg.
Going up to the hoo Gig. I love the hoo gig.
Stock, right, So I've been in my new job. I'm working for a guy called Keith or for them, he's the dying of music PRS and he represents everybody at Woodstock. He looks after the Moody Blues, you know, Eric Burden, everybody. In fact, he was the guy that told Jimmy Hendrix to set fire to his guitar at Monterey Pop. So he said to me, I'm three days into the job. He said, Alan, I want you to take the press up to meet the Who at Wembley tonight, and I'm thinking, okay.
He gave me a list of names and they're all the big critics at the time, David Wig from the Daily Express and John Colstrey. In fact, in those days, critics were really like critics. One of them even had a monocle, if I remember correctly. So I didn't know how you did this. So I just sat, it's like going to a gig with my mates. I'll call them all up and tell them to meet me at Oxford Circus at six o'clock. I didn't know that in those days you were supposed to lay on a limousine and
champagne or a private helicopter or something like that. This is the seventies. So anyway, I tell them all to meet me at Oxford Circus. We get on the tube. Everyone's crushed like sardoines. I could see they're uncomfortable. We get to Wembley, doors open and they literally fall on the platform, squeezed up, and everyone's very irritated. I thought, oh my god, I've got to save this trip. So I said, look, i'll tell you what I promise you
all we'll get. I'll get you exclusive interviews with the who. Don't worry. And of course in those days there no social media, there were no mobile phones, so I was just having to make this up on the spot, no I could know if it would happen. So we get to Wembley. We weave our way through the labyrinth of corridors, get to the Who's dressing room and I feel these sort of ten pairs of eyes boring in my back.
So I knock on the door and it opens. I said, hello, I'm Alan Edwards a the PR office, and someone just looks at me and says, why don't you f off? Then slammed the door in my face. And I'm standing there and I'm thinking, well, I've got to do it again because I can feel these critics and glaring at me.
So I tap on the door.
Well, I knock on the door again. The door opens. I said, I'm Alan Edwards and the PR office the same voice as I've told you before, why don't you just f off? And as I look up, I see Keith Moon Goes flying through the air in the middle of a punch up. And I get home that night and I thought I can't do this job. It's too hard. And here I am half a century late and still working with a WHO lighted.
Yeah, thank god you did, man, because again some of the stories and might have been an interview where you were talking about the book, but I love how you talk about a couple of the artists you've worked so intimately with the Mick Jagger and David Bowie.
David Bowie, of course it's such.
A spine both business and spiritual and social for you in the book and in your life story. But you talk about the difference between them talking to the press that say, for Bowie he was about the art of conversation. Jagger was the business of conversation.
What's the difference.
Well, they were both incredibly good communicators, and with Mick he took meticulous detail when he was doing an interview, wanted a doss here in beforehand. He wanted to know the last three articles that Jonas had written, what they'd done, and he was very much by the time I was working within nineteen eighty two, they were going in the big Stadium tour, so it was about selling one hundred thousand tickets tonight, so Mick really wanted to make sure everything was covered off the radio, TV.
Press, etc.
And Mick had been to London School of Economics. I think he had a great understanding of business and he was effectively the manager of the group in some ways. At that time. David just loved conversation, he loved journalism, he loved writers. In fact, a lot of our relationship was sort of almost built on books. He was always giving me books. I'd give him books. I remember doing that going around Australia with him. So he loved and
he became friends with a lot of the writers. He'd often call them up and say, someone like Tony Parsons, famous writer and now author. He'd call me up and say, oh, that David Bowie on the phone last night, called up for a chat. So they both had the same They were in some ways remarkably similar, and both incredibly hard working and focused, very charming to be with, and two of the greatest rock and roll stars we'll ever see.
Buddy Oath, Now, let's deal with some of the news around today. Have you heard anything is o Is this getting back together or are we falling for some sort of a pr hook here?
Well, I had to say definitely, maybe abuse. I think it's very telling that there's been no denial issued. I mean the stories a bit sounded have got a feel of authority about them.
Now.
Sometimes an act will let that run because it builds up the interest and it hypes up the money and the offers get better. But this has the feeling you know, it's going to be very hard to put the genie back in the bottle. Although rock stars, like everyone else now in Australia, they do have the right to disconnect, so you never know.
Ah good Man, he was listening before allan sensational book.
I could talk to you all night.
I can't wait for the podcast version and all the stories when that's right for you.
In the meantime, that's the book I was there.
Bye bye bye this Father's Day Alan, Thank you mate so.
Much, Paul, and hopefully see you down there sooner.
Or later, Bloody Oath. All right, that's our show tonight. We look forward to the late debate rock it on right now,