From the sky in center. This is Paul Murray Live. Howda. I don't know why I'm American, but why not? Welcome to another week before Murray Live. A massive weekhead this time. Next week we're going to be in Western Australia. We'll be doing plenty of shows from that side of the country between now and then, so keep your eyes feeled and spread the word. If you've got some tips about what I should be seeing, either in Perth or regional wa please send us an email. Paul. It's gonews dot
com dot au. Tonight, obviously we'll get to all of the obvious certain news that is around, including the Labour Party getting absolutely thumped in the Northern territory. Leofanukiano is a wonderful lady. I'm so pleased she gets her te chance to lead. She's going to be a very impressive leader of that part of the world. Jackie Lamby good at getting publicity, not great at getting people to remain part of her network, which of course is different than
a party. Right, Well, perhaps she should become a party, because then she'd be able to hold on to people other than herself get elected under her name. Big news out of Tassy tonight, and I'll tell you the detailed reasons why RFK joining forces with Donald Trump is the game changer of the American election thus far, well after Biden. But you get my point now. Just like many Australians, I well bought the ticket late last week, fingers crossed, hoping that our life was going to change with so
much money coming by the way of Powerball World. Surprise, surprise. I'm sitting here, which means I didn't win. You're sitting there, which means you didn't win either. One hundred million bucks. Apparently it was one person who ended up winning. They are from Queensland. Apparently the ticket had been sold to somebody from the Lots outlet in the North Side, but they were unregistered, which means they can't contact you. You have to contact them.
With unregistered that's where if the ticket does is lost or becomes damage. There is a process we can use to try and that people can use to sort of night with the prize, but it's much more complicatedble And while.
One person gets one hundred million dollars, a whole bunch of people got their share of sixty seven million dollars. In fact, that was the carve up of people from the other divisions. From Division two to nine there were three point three median people winning their version of a slice of sixty seven thousand dollars. Now, I would imagine these are the people who will suddenly renovate their bathroom,
suddenly buy a new car. Do not think they have won one hundred million, just maybe something somewhere between here and there. But anyway, if you're a winner, congrats, good luck, and of course to the people who run well, you are the biggest winners, aren't you, because what is it a one in four trillion chance of actually getting the win.
But if you got it, well done, glad you're still watching us, and I look forward to you doing it on an even bigger Telly, let's talk about what happened in Darwin last night, huge, huge news, which of course was that the Corp absolutely wiped the floor with the Labor Party last night. Now, what's fascinating about Northern territory elections is the population is pretty small. It's like a quarter of a million people, like the entire territory wide.
It means the electorates are only like very small, single thousand people. So when they change their mind, they change it hard, and they changed it hard, getting rid of a Labor Party that had gone death to the true concerns of the territory. And you know how much I love it, not just celebrating it every single first of the new financial year, first of July crack a night, the one place left in the country to do it.
But it's a place of great freedoms. It feels like what people overseas think Australia is well, the only place to actually go and do it is in the territory. But as you say, they smashed and smashed hard, but not a lot of people thought that it was going to be the case. And when I say not a lot of people, I mean we have an example of somebody who was on the telly in the day before saying, well, but probably should be able to get over the line.
Of course, reality was that the Country Liberal Party, it's called the Country Liberal Party. But of course it is the same Team Blue, even though it's Team Orange. But you get my point, Smashes. You lead to thirteen to form majority. At this stage they've got sixteen. That's up nine seats since the election a few years ago. Labor Party down ten seats. Down to four. The others I believe is actually two not three. My apologies, so that'll
be down by maybe two and still counting. Now, the most worrying part of this election, apart from the Labour Party voters, that the Greens they're going to find their way into the territory parliament, most likely via one of the surprise, surprise, richest parts of in and around Darwin, in and around Fanny Bay. Beautiful part of the world, but it's about to go green. Wow. Now this is also interesting, not just because of its complications when it
comes back to the federal election. I'll get to those in a second. But remember one of the things that the Labor Party is trying to do in exchange for a whole bunch of other election changes between now and the next federal election, most likely because of the Reserve Bank, to beat next year, not this year. They want to double the number of senators currently there's only two that come from the Northern Territory and the Act each and
every election. Now this matters because in the Act, essentially the Libs would have a shot of one in four, the Teals could end up winning two, Labor could win two, or the Greens could win two. Whoever doesn't win the two or they get the one, and you get my point. That of course makes it harder for any potential Conservative government with that one a majority downstairs, to have a
majority upstairs. And if the Greens are now starting to show some green shoots of their political support, even in a wipeout election like this, then what will happen potentially with the fourth of the Senate seats to come from the Northern Territory. Again, more Greens, more teals, more labor. All of it makes it way harder for whatever coalition government comes to power, whenever they come to power. Now, also worth noting here too is Lea Fanookiana. Now she
is the Northern Territory Chief Minister. She had her meetings today. But supposedly she is the exact example of somebody who the Liberal Party apparently has a problem with. A middle aged woman who's a three term menpiece, a mother of two, she has Italian born parents, she's born and bred in the Northern Territory. But we keep being told that people of this age, of this professionalism, of this heritage, well
that's the problem with the Liberal Party. Well guess what, Lea Fanookiano and you Center Price represent the next generation for the Liberal Party. Now the blokes that have been in charge in the past, get out of the way. You are not the puppet masters. They are the leaders. They are the people who will lead to greater political success, not just in the territory. And they don't need to follow your advice. You need to sit back and let them do what they do. Just Center Price has the
potential of being a prime minister. Lea Fanookiana has the potential of turning around the Northern territory. If the Old Boys Network wants to fiddle around and pretend they'are the real power behind the throne, well all of it ends well, pretty badly, pretty quickly. Get out of the way. These people are the ones that are in charge, and they are in tune not just with the territory, but with
millions of people around the country. Leofanukiano, as I say, a middle aged woman who is the mother of two, a professional woman, a person who has parents born from somewhere else is the exact type of person who can help Peter Dutton in a federal election, not just in the seat of Solomon, which is the one in and around Darwin, but her success as an example of what the party now is will help in part of the anti teal fight that will come up in the next
little while. But front and center, the reason the government had to change was because of crime in and around the Northern Territory. It has been a disgrace what has been allowed to happen now. In many ways, this has been allowed to happen because the left wing of the Labor Party took over the Northern Territory after the right wing of the Labor Party decided to pull up stumps. Now today the brand new Chief Minister Weill, she met
with the Police Commissioner and that's good to see. But it's time to start seeing hardcore legislation go through the Parliament. The type of stuff that is going to piss off the ABC and send the Guardian wild, But it's the stuff that is going to calm down the beautiful Northern Territory. I love Alice Springs. I want people to stay over
in Alice Springs. I want people to use Alice Springs as the base for their territory hopping as they move around, not just a place where you may stay for one night before quickly getting out of dodge now it is a place that has great potential. Its locals have made very clear decisions that they want to be represented by people that are going to get on top of this.
I repeat that is going to create trouble and there is going to be particularly the left wing media that is going to try to say that the cracking down is all too hard, which in part gets us to the issue in and around this election. Remember in two thousand and seven when the border policyes of this country were so harsh, so evil that people thought you could loosen them and nothing would happen. Of course, fifty thousand votes after Rudd did that came to the country and
fifteen hundred people ended up dying. Well in the territory. Yes, what was going on in don Dale was too much. But then when Natasha Files and other left wing parts of the government turned around and said, let's get rid of the grog bands, let's loosen things up, let's raise the age of criminal responsibility, well, of course none of it gets rid of the crime. It just gets rid of the people to be held account for the crime. This is fascinating. By the way, the now former Chief Minister,
who in my view thankfully lost her seat. Well she seemed to be, and I'm talking politically, just a bit of a piece of work. She was nasty in that People's Forum, and that will may be because she thinks that the new broom is not worthy. Her speech went on forever, talking about friends and family as in the Labor Party, and the staffers were all the friends and for Please, as soon as you start to think this job is yours forever, guess what they'll take it away
from you. Natasha files Again, the former Chief Minister was right there, front and center when the Prime Minister was making appalling decisions in and around this area. Well, thankfully now Labor has been sent packing. The COLP has a tough job in front of it. But the expectation of anyone who lives or loves the territory is get on with it. Get on with it, yes, go as hard as you possibly can. If you need to pull back at some other point in time, fine and fair enough.
We're not living in the nineteen twenties. We're living in the twenty twenties. So yes, there is a line. But it's time to go hard. If options need to be taken away from the judiciary because they are too soft and we need to start moving to mandatory sentencing. Good because if it creates a sense of fear that if you commit crime, you will be caught for it and you will be punished for it, then guess what happens to crime? It slowly disappears. There will be a tough
road between now and then. Let's all make sure that we have their back, chief ministers back and as I say, the old boys get out of the way. You're not in charge. She's in charge, and the territory is much the better for it. The meantime, one of the frustrations that we had at the very start of not this but last year, was when the Prime Minister went to Alice Springs. Now remember he was dragged, kicking and screaming.
He didn't want to be there now, he didn't want to be there, so the press conferences were all hole behind closed doors and everyone was looking the other way. He was there literally for a couple of hours, and he literally spent more time flying to the territory that he spent in the territory because his real priority for the way to start twenty twenty three was to bugger off the tennis, not for one night, but for of course three nights copping his cheers back then and booze
this year. And the reason it has changed is because Australians have had enough of his leadership. Remember, as we have shown you multiple times reserved political monitor. This is the one that comes from the left wing websites of the Channel nine year his papers. It shows that fifty one percent of people believe the Prime minister's performance to be poor or very poor. That's the reality today and the prime minister's run between now and December it's not
going to get any better. Why because guess who's coming back air buss Albo now fresh from all of the problems when he was flying around the world too much of the start of his prime ministership and then he tried to pull his head in towards the back part of last year and for most of this year. He is about to jump back on the plane. The next place he's going to be off to is he's going to be going to Tonga for a Pacific Islands Forum.
No one will begrudge a prime minister doing that. Austraighted plays a significant role in leadership in and around these areas. But I do love the people that were even writing about this itinerary who were saying, Oh, anyone who complains about there's a sort of small mind who doesn't understand. No, the reason we have complained about it is because he
nicknames the plane after his dog. He is so familiar and happy to be somewhere else other than Australia because again, by his own rules, he doesn't have to answer questions about Australia. Well. During twenty twenty three, when he thought that politics would be distracted by the voice, cost of living and its reality became a massive issue towards the end of the year, so much so that almost seventy something almost eighty percent of people said the government wasn't
doing enough. That's why he's spent a summer trying to reset a budget, trying to buy votes with billions of dollars. But as we now said towards the back half of August of twenty twenty four, things are just as bad, if not worse, for many people around the country. Yet, right now is when the Prime Minister is going to fly around the world. Here's some of the places he's going to be going. I read directly from the account that was in the Cydney Morning Herald. He's going to
go to the inauguration and the Indonesian Prime Minister. He's going to go to the Choggham meeting in Samoa. He's going to go to the East Asia Summit in Laos. He's going to go to the APEAK meeting. Remember the last time I was in San Francisco where they magically got rid of all of the homeless people the Chinese. Of course, we're attacking members of our defense force, but our Prime minister was sucking up to the Chinese President hoping that nobody would notice what we did. That's in Peru.
Then there's the G twenty summit in Brazil, and then there's a Quad leaders meeting in India. I'd say maybe maybe the only one that he really needs to go to is the Quad. The rest of it, well, of course, is him pretending to be the big boy on the international stage. And gee, didn't that work out for Joe Biden. It will not work out for Anthony Albernezi again, because
Airbus Albo is a symbol. It's a symbol of priorities, and if the priority is to bugger off and a bugger off as many times as this plan between now and the end of the year, while cost of living squeeze is tighter than ever before. Well, it doesn't just underline the perceptions, it makes the perceptions true about what
the priorities are. Now. Remember in twenty twenty three, when it was all about the Voice and Airbus Albo, they took fifteen hundred dollars away from ten million workers in the instant in the sorry the load of middle income tax off set. Twelve months later they gave you too little, too late in the form of tax cuts, particularly for people earning around forty five thousand dollars about fifteen dollars a week. The expectation between now and December is that
nothing will happen with the Reserve Bank. If anything happens, it's more likely to go up than it is to
go down. Other international markets may start going down, but remember our inflation is higher than in places like the United States or the United Kingdom, both of which claim that inflation is one of the if not biggest issues in an election that saw a government change in the United Kingdom, or is the reason why it may well change, or even the deputy of the government currently running for the presidency the Vice President is trying to pretend she's
not involved in that government. Why because anyone associated with inflation or the economy, well, they would sink like a stone. Hence the remaking of Kamala Harris from Joe Biden's loyal deputy to Obama in a pants suit. Meantime, even the people who love the Prime Minister would love to stick around, I should say, they say the time is running out in terms of the Parliament for them to actually be able to deliver on promises. Take your pick age care reform.
Now supposedly a deal has been done. There will of course be no lifetime cap that was the latest in negotiations. We'll find out what gets leaked this week for anyone who's trying to pay by an age care package at home. With how strong the gambling advertising will be the political donation system, will they limit the amount of money that the teels can raise and spend going into the next election, or because they're headed towards minority, will it all be
put off for another three years. Don't get me started on housing and renting. The religious discrimination bill they're not going to touch. They are of course going to do everything they can to tighten things in the environment, and of course more bureaucracy in and around climate change, the hate speech legislation again, that won't get off the ground. What about mining, what about the Reserve Bank? What about childcare? What about aviation? Watch this space. Time is running out
metaphorically and literally. But the Prime Minister, well, he again wants to change the subject. If he's not buggering off overseas, he's having chats about his broken heart from way back when this is when, of course, he was talking about when his marriage had broken down, and all of that, of course, is a distraction from the real issue of the past two weeks. Again, I wish the man no personal ill will, but I couldn't care less about the
personal backstory. Get on with the real deal, Get on along with protecting our national borders, which includes rigorous screenings for any and anyone who comes over that border. For two weeks, he couldn't tell us whether he agreed that support verbal support for mass was a reason to come or go from the country. Pretty obvious answer, regardless of what you think of what's happening on the other side
of the world. And then, interestingly, as the Left, he's tried to turn around and say the past couple of weeks have been horrible, ugly, dirty racist. Dunton took twenty five steps back well David Pempethy, of course, adelaide radio host, he wrote in the papers over the weekend. So the other thing that people such as Stegel don't get is that concerns about crowding and cultural shifts from sudden surges in immigration are at their most acute in the blue
collar suburbs when new migrants congregate. Exactly what we've been saying for a couple of years, Zalie Stegel will need a compass and a pack lunch to find these suburbs. If Anthony Abernezi allows himself to be wedded to this issue, he's going to be in massive strife. Losing a referendum is one thing, losing an election something else. The PM
needs to change the subject and fast. His capacity to do so has not been seen to this point, even with billions of dollars in two too late tax cuts and twenty five dollars a month off a power bill that has already surged more than twenty five dollars. Now, let's have a chat about Jackie Lamby now, I'll be honest, I've always had slightly mixed feelings about her because she has an ability to present herself as the most normal
person in the Parliament. Her backstory is unlike most people in the Parliament, so you always are willing to give her a chance. She certainly has stood up for veterans, and when she's screaming about the thing that you like, it's nice to hear somebody else screaming about the thing that you like. But she does it about everything.
How about just for once today, just for once, put the future of our kids first. Okay, that's what we've got with et on us Mus this morning, so let's call him out for it.
I'm sick of it.
I hate bullies, billionaire bullies. I'll be looking forward to having the comentedos sitting in front of me in the rebels, because you won't get witnesses coming forward, you people, I've be here.
Her political mix at times can be a bit strange, where she'll come out hard against the nuttier parts of the Union movement, like say to see it for me you, but then she'll basically vote with Labor most of the time. The way that she's able to get her media profile at the nowtional level is because she ticks two boxes at one time. For most news organizations now the reality is that most don't talk about Tasmanian politics, So she ticks the box of someone from Tasmania, ie not Sydney,
not Melbourne. The other box, of course, is somebody who will give you the quote that could turn into a news story, because she's the most outraged about whatever the thing is that we're supposed to be outraged about. But of course her ultimate power in the Parliament is that
she could deny the government of vote. She could say, rather than just screaming at a press conference for the consumption of everyone watching the press conference, if she wants to stop something happening, she can say, I won't vote for this or anything else you put in front of us unless dot dot dot. She's done things like that in the past, but that of course was only a conservative thing. She of course goes into shows like Q and A because again they think there's something conservative about
her because she started life with Clive Palmer. She's been re elected in the conservative part of the northern part of Tasmania, and Jackie Lamby has been successful at being able to grow herself from just a senator in someone else's name to a person who was able to win back her seat in the Senate under her own party identity. But she doesn't call it a party. It's called a network.
It's the Jackie Lambie network. That photo taken from her website to show the strength that she has in northern Tasmania, where again the population's not massive, so to get the requisite fifteen percent of the vote, it's a much smaller number of people than to get the same percentage of the vote to qualify to be a Senator in somewhere like Victoria, New South Wales or in Queensland. But that's geography, that's just the way that it works. There's nothing wrong
with that system. She showed that she had political coattails in twenty twenty two. You see, after she had been returned to Parliament in twenty nineteen, she chose a staffer, a lady by the name of Tammy Tyrrell, to be the Senate candidate who who was able to win her own place for six years in the Senate. But of course it was generally all the posters Jackie, all the messages Jackie, and of course these were two peas in the pod. How good two for the price of one.
Now she even said at the time that I'm not Jackie because well, of course, while Tammy had been in and around the negotiations process as a staffer, it's different when you have a vote in the Senate. Well, of course, guess what happened, she walked. She is now an independent senator. Now. This happened towards the start of this year. Now, if this had been one nation, it had been a much bigger story because it was the Jackie Lamby network. Apparently
there was nothing to see here. Apparently it was amicable. But still if you've gone from two votes to one vote, literally half of your party representation has completely disappeared. Now Jackie will be on the ballot at the next federal election because of all of this national media attention. She will no doubt be returned to Parliament. But whether she will be able to bring other people with her will be fascinating to see. And even if she does, how
long can she hold on to them? You see, because in and around Lonceston and Bernie everything up around the north of the state. She is very popular there. I remember in the lead up to the twenty nineteen election, we did a pub test. Jacque Lamy was falling over herself to be my best mate to get on the show. She was falling over herself to talk about issues like veterans affairs, but it became really difficult to get her
on the show after that election had taken place. So again, she's a smart politician who is willing to use any in every camera, any in every microphone she can. But the idea that she is a hardcore this or a hard core that is not really true. She's a hardcore all about her, which makes her just like every other politician. But she does have a different perspective, a different style. But she's like every other politician. The whole point of politics is to stay in politics. You stay in politics,
there's a pretty penny in it. You remain a household name, and you're able to spread your wings and get other people to run with you as if you are part of a political movement. She's apparently planning to run candidates all around the country at the next federal election. Who will be donating, who will be helping with their preferences. Well, again, this will be fascinating to see. But in the state
election that took place this year. As we told you, Jackie Lamby and the network was able to get not one or two, but three people into the lower House. And the Liberal Party was not able to get a majority. That's fine, that's the way the people speak. This is despite the fact that by their own admission before the Tasmanian election that Jackie Lamby Network had zero policies.
So definitely with the Lambia netgroup, it's all about values. So we haven't already got predecided policies or specific areas and that's to me, that's true democracy here. We are representing the people.
Now. The way that these MPs worked was that because Labor was not in a position to be able to form any sort of a government in Tasmania, the Lamby MP's kind of had to vote with the government, which meant they had to look them in the eye and do some sort of a deal, not to power share in the government, but basically to have the three votes that could topple the government at any time, which is why when they did the deal with the Premiere it
was set up to fail. Why because at its very hard the Lamby Network, in Lamby in particular, doesn't want to have to come up with ideas. They only want to criticize everyone else's. They want to lick the finger and work out what's popular and what's not popular, because whatever's not popular you end up championing because the media will then follow you as the champion of the thing that isn't popular. Therefore you're the one who's the battering
ram against the government. And people say, oh, I like Jackie. She tells the truth. Now, no doubt she'll that that Harry hits with me talking about all of this. But this is just her form. She may we'll move into one of those people who believes we have to angel laws to shut down stations like this, but this is just the reality. She couldn't hold her onto her own senator in Canberra, and now she can't hold onto her
own MPs. Apparently she made the decision to bounce a couple of these existing MPs from the Jackie Lamby Network, meaning they are now formally independence. They go off, they do their own deal with the government that I would imagine we'll probably go for the full three years rather than the twelve month deal, which is all about trying to get to an election sooner rather than later because when the Lamby network pulls, they pulls the pin. They
would do it at a time of their own political success. Interestingly, though, the other reporting though, is that the people who used to be in the Jackie Lamby network, two of those three MP's have said the reason they got out of the way was because they don't want her over their shoulder. And guess who one of the people is who got the ass from the Jackie Lamby network. The very lady who was this pro lambigu going into the Tasmanian election. The same lady who kind of quietly admitted they have
no policies. But this is a woman who was all in on Jackie.
She'll come down and she'll spend a couple of hours with us, waving flag at the end of her wrong day. It's like looking with the celebrity.
Have the amounted people.
To come over and go, oh, can I have a vote? All right, that's good for you. Well, I get to be a photographer for a day.
I don't know if from a bar of soap, don't know what she's like behind the scenes, but when she was that enthusiastic before the election, she becomes one of three after the election, and then she gets booted because she's too close to the government, whatever that means. They are the government, you want to work with them to get things for your community, or maybe these people have just got it all the wrong way around. Delivering for
the community is not the point. Blowing up about the government is the point, because then you get a run on the TV, and the more runs on the TV, the more votes you get, and round and round it goes again. Jackie Lamby is a very talented politician, very talented, no question about it. Her capacity to be able to push back on everything that I've just told you is immense. It's as big as any major party leader, as any national figure. And again she'd be very annoyed at what
I've had to say here. But can someone somewhere in the world of Canberra start trying to work out why did she lose her senator? Why has she lost her state MPs? I think we all know potentially what the answer may be, but we'll all have to wait and read it somewhere eventually maybe or will everyone stay away from it because they don't want to get in a
bad side. And she's just such good talent because she's had in the Middle East that are happening as we speak now, as we know, Iran most likely expected to respond to Israel, which of course was responding. You know, let's not play that game, but the expectations were that things we get pretty full on out of Lebanon. Now, if Lebanon and Israel went to war, it is a much bigger, much more complicated scenario than what's playing out
in Gaza as we speak. Hezbollah, who is the organization in Lebanon, while a lot of their planes have been blown up tonight, why because Israel is trying to remove the capacity of that force to be able to fly in or near Israel in the middle of a war. Watch this space. This one looks like it's going to get deeper, going to get darker, going to get harder. There are a couple hundred thousand Australians that are in
and around Lebanon. Of course, there are many Australians that are everywhere from the West Bank to Gaza and plenty in between. Reach out to as many people as you can tonight and tell them if they can get out of dodge, who knows what's going to happen in the next little while And finally on American politics before we get a great conversation looking into all matters to do with news here at home and abroad. We thought it was happening, and it happened. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Has
decided to suspend his own presidential campaign. He's now fully endorsed, and he is behind Trump, not off to the side, He's literally on stage with him. And whoever bought the firecrackers, well done. Nice piece of theater for everyone to see. As these two people who are equally very inside, but
their opinions, their brand, their opinion is very outsider. These two blokes together are going to really make the establishment frightened, which of course is why that we referred to as nutters every day between now and the election recair.
Great causes drove me to an to this race in the first place, primarily, and these are the principal causes that persuaded me to leave the Democratic Democratic Party and run as an independent and now to throw my support a President Trump. The causes were a free speech warrant, Ukraine war and.
No children Now again, many of the videos you've abill see on YouTube a people calling him a freak and all the rest of it, and there's so much that I do not agree with in any way, shape or form. But the stuff that he talks about when it comes to chronic disease is really interesting. The idea about how sick America is now, how and why. Again, we all may differ, but that's something that I want to talk about. We just had a week of Kamala Harris being celebrated
for Obama in a pantsuit, and that's it. No idea is no policy, is just rah Rashi's not him. Now, RFK had sizeable support in many of the seven swing states that will decide the election. Now, most of his support, which was the Democratic support, meant that his numbers were higher before Biden dropped out, which means most of the Dems, if not all of them, have gone back. And some of these people, of course, they'll just set it out no interest whatsoever. I'm not going to vote for that
evil Trump. But let's imagine half of these people do it changes things. It would mean that Trump wins Arizona, Georgia. It means that Michigan would become very competitive. Nevada, Trump would be able to put it away. He'd be able to easily win North Carolina, he'd be able very close, if not win Pennsylvania. And if Trump wins Nevada, Arizona Pennsylvania,
game over. That's why this is so big, and that's why we will talk about it plenty more between now and when we're done tonight, and many days between now and November. In the meantime, we stand by on this the twenty fifth of August to find out when Kamala Harris will actually do an interview before the end of the month. We're in a secure on Paulmurray life. Thanks so much for watching wherever you happen to be, love
to talk to you about any and everything. But let's talk again tee politics and what it really means next. Thanks very much for watching. Lida Scott is here wherever you You could do that during the break, you know, guys. Now let's get to Lida Scott, who was of course here. She's just got a couple of weeks left there at City Citdney Council and then she can do whatever she wants with the life, which I'm sure will be deep,
rewarding and reaching all the rest of it. And of course Christian McSweeney are joining us from the pr Council. She is in Melbourne right now. Lots to talk about with both of you. Let's go back to the top here. Northern Territory election and what it means now I get it. It is there are not a lot of federal seats there. In fact, there are only two, so if there has been some seismic move from red to blue or the best case scenario would be two at the next federal election.
But Christie, I think something that is buried inside of all of this is that there is only so long that people will cop this. These aren't the droids you're looking for style of politics which is often played on the left. Oh there's no crime crisis here, or here's the stats which say it's not really as bad as it seems, or things like let's raise the age of criminal responsibility. That doesn't make the crime go away, It
just makes who's responsible for it go away. And I think that is the lesson out of what's happened here. Crime is obviously not a federal responsibility, but gas lighting an electorate is not the way to win them over, which is exactly what int Labor did.
You're certainly right, Paul. The number one issue there was crime, but there's a lot of other issues. To win an election in the territory, you have to win the north and the outback, and the CLP has won six seats north of what they call the Behrama line, which is a dividing line, and people north of that line where the CLP has hit those six seats to produce a swing over around eighteen to twenty percent on current votes coming in means that some of the more affluent voters
in the territory have voted for the CLP. They've also won the public service sectors of Catherine and Alice Springs. That's very significant and part of the reason why was because voters have overwhelmingly supported the Strategic Gas Plan, which is opening up of the Betterloo base, which is economic investment into the territory, which is jobs, which is clawing back some of the eleven billion dollars in debt the territory.
It is in that's been voted for by Coalition voters and by Labor voters, and it indicates that labor continues to be between a rock and a hard place, negotiating with greeds and trying to prove their green credentials. And this is a state that traditionally has voted labor. They're now losing seats with a contest between Greens and the Coalition in inner city seats, seats like Fanny Bay. The
Coalition hasn't won it since nineteen ninety four. It's the most affluent seat in inner city Darwin and they're on a knife edge with the colp between the Greens. Labor is out of the picture. Territorians have not voted for what they are selling, which is an anti mining and Leah, she can go to camber Down and have an ally in Roger Cook who continues to tell the Albanese government to shelf this anti mining nature. Positive agender, excellent.
I loved all that data. Well done, Linda. I think another thing worth mentioning here is that this Labor Greens battle right now, there are some disgraceful decisions which are happening in Queensland where we're starting to read about the Liberal Party preferencing the Greens over labor. That's madness. I think that the Liberal parties are finding any way to get Greens in just as a way of punishing labor. You don't know what you're unleashing. Right. Conversely, labor backing
in Teals, not the Liberal Party. Same issue here, the idea that the Greens are now popping up in Darwin. We know they're in Brisbane, we know they're in Melbourne. We know that. Literally it's Plebisek and albanezy as the reasons why there's not a change in Sydney. But this is in the same way that the Teals are. This is a mathematical problem, isn't it for labor.
Look, it is the case as has been said that in the Northern Territory election it was a classic example of labor getting squeezed from the left and squeezed from the righte I do think, and you know, full congratulations to Leah and the coorpteam. They won a resounding result on Saturday and you know they will clearly form government in their own right. But to your question Paul about the Greens, I think it is really an interesting national trend.
We are seeing them campaigning on different issues around the country. You know, in Sydney and Melbourne they're only talking about Palestine. In Queensland they're only talking about housing. So they're specialist at one single issue. But the single issue does change around the nation and it is it is right to
call out that it is squeezing labor. But when you start to see what is happening in Brisbane, where it's been revealed just recently that it looks like the LNP leader there, David Christoph Wooley, has agreed to a preference deal with the Greens for those inner city Brisbane seats for the upcoming Queensland election, you have to call into
question what the Liberals do stand for. You have to call into question whether Peter Dutton is going to allow this kind of a preference arrangement to go ahead completely in defiance of presumably Liberal Party value.
Well, I mean, look, I lose my brain about this all of the time, Christy, because I mean, we know what they're like once they actually get there, we know what their plan is, and we know that basically, you know, like pac Man or MS Pacman or they Pacman, they're going to sort of chew up all they can between now and then until eventually you know, they've they've cleared the board to push the metaphor from a long time ago. I just think the Liberal Party playing any games, who
knows what they get in return? Right, and maybe in return there's preferences in certain swing seats, but I would prefer Labor and the Liberal Party to be getting together to kill off Teals and kill off Greens. Otherwise we're going to end up with this sort of massive minority party parliaments at the state and federal level, and they are not going to produce better results. They will only produce more results to the left.
Look, the rise of minor parties in single issue independent is not going anywhere. It continues to track upwards. The Greens vote at the twenty twenty two election was twelve percent and in some areas you know we've mentioned Brisbane in some electorates is extremely high twenty four percent. Seats in Melbourne are on a knife edge with the Greens looking to not preference Labor so they can win those seats.
Out right, in a way, the divorce is well and truly happening, and a separation of those assets, with the Greens to say where out to take these and Labor if you want to keep them, you have to Outgreen us, which is essentially what Labor is doing. And as we've said, Labor has been wedged from the left. The coalition, though, will say, is in a position where Greens twelve percent on a national average means it has to lift its
primary to equal that twelve percent and overcome it. Or say the Greens aren't going to preference labor at the federal election and say ten target seats. That's still sort of sick or seven percent that the coalition has to lift to overcome the fact they don't have a preference preference partner on the right side. The reality is they do, which is one nation, But people refuse to come to a position where it's actually not bad to preference them in some elector.
Of course, of course, because you know, forgive me, but many lives in Melbourne freak out about preference deals with one nation because they play differently in the way the media plays again, you know, first past the post. I'd be happy with that system. If you have to have a preference system at some point, you have to rank
people a preference discipline. As I've said before, twenty nineteen United Australia Party one nation pretty much the majority of the preferences or dare I say sort of you know, say sixty forty go to the coalition they win an election, flips the other way around. Guess what happens, you end up with where we are right now. Remember Labor did win ninety seats. They won seventy seven of the last election and then chuck another one in and they get the seventy eight. You need only seventy six to get
across hardly Howard Rudd or Abbot style backbenches. Now let's talk about that. The right to disconnect stuff kicks in tomorrow. I have been listening to some people trying to pretend this means you cannot, under any circumstances send a text affter five o'clock. You actually can. The whole point is it's that you don't call twenty five times afterwards at seven, eight, nine and ten. That's who is going to be punished
by this law. But if the perception is you can't send a text affter five o'clock, what does that mean for the Australian workforce?
Linda, Well, look, this is just about Australian workers, you know, police, nurses, teachers, asking for the right and being granted the right to be able to expect that once you leave work and stop getting paid, you don't get lots of calls and continue to be asked for work. And I think that's a really reasonable expectation pre mobile phones, Paul Murray, because you know we're so old we do remember those days.
You can go around the corner and talk to your mate.
It wasn't really an issue, right, and so it is. It is an issue that is linkeding technology. But I just think it's completely reasonable. And of course if you need to make you know, a phone call, and you're paying somebody over time, or you're recognizing somehow in their employment conditions that they're on call, that that is a very reasonable thing to do. People get rosted as nurses being on call. But what this is, and you know,
my children are in beautiful public schools. It's not okay for people to be able to call teachers six seven, eight o'clock at night. We spell email them expect them to have answered by the next morning. You know, it is reasonable that people are asking for this rise.
But also you know, CHRISTI, to me, it's about the government trying to say where the line is. Right now, we know that the line where the law gets involved and you're going to go after Fair Work Commission and you're going to get a fine is again multiple contacts outside. It is not about a singular example, if somebody does get one text at six fifteen and then they decided to challenge it off to the Fair Work Commission. We'll
all wait and see. But do you think the government has been clear enough in saying what are the reasonable interactions versus are hard shut off when you say tadah at the end of a day.
No, I don't think they have. And the reason why they haven't is because it's been a legislation that was hurried through the Parliament designed to satisfy the union agenda. It's part of the amendments to the Fair Work Act. They went through in two chrances of the legislation with Tony Burke very quickly so they could deliver the ACTU agenda Holess Bowlers. There are something like eleven and a half million employees in Australia. Only twelve percent of them
are members of the union. This is legislation designed for the union and that's why we don't hear about how it's going to affect anybody else except for teachers and police officers, because that outside of those twelve percent of people in Australia who are in a union and who like to have those union awards set out for them, and that's a good thing that people have clarity in those sectors. However, the rest of Australia has little clarity.
And don't forget the Coalition had to water it down and expose a loophole that demonstrated that employers could actually face criminal penalty in the rest of the Australian business community. I couldn't run a business in what I do, and you can't be a political staffer either if you're turning up to fair work saying I got a text from the Industrial re litionce Minister at five point fifteen.
Yeah, well tell me about it. I'll be preparing for a show while midair between the East Coast and the West Coast later this week as we hit our way towards Western Australia, looking forward to our town next weekend. If you want to send me an email, pull it's gone news, dot com, dot a ubernormal tickets. We have a nice full room and I appreciate everyone who has hit us up. Let's take a quick break. We'll talk about Queen Kamala. A barmer in a pants suit or
an empty pantsuit or in a seat. Thank you very much. Fortune wherever you happen to be. We will get to a bold prediction at a moment or two is time. But how can I not ask Kristy McSweeney All Linda's got their thoughts on Queen Kamala Harris. Now, Christy, I want to talk about some of the language that was in and around the DNC and most people watching us now. Firstly, this stuff happens in the middle of the day. They have busy lives, and it is another country, so they're
not going to pay attention to every word. But literally of what very little is on the table, it was I will fight for this and I will fight for that, which I noticed is not a promise to actually deliver any of it. That said, no interviews, Media loves her should be sort of carried on the backs of many between now and the debate. What do you think of how this works and do you think that the RFK of it all does numerically put Trump back on top.
I think the RFK inclusion into the Trump campaign has short up people who were probably leaning towards Trump anyway. They're sort of the Clive Palmer voters of America. They're people who are vehemently against vaccination and various other issues that sort of sit out there a little bit on the fringe. That's not to say if you believe in that, you're on the fringe, but that is an issue that
they see of significant importance. So all it does is move people who would lean towards him anyway and give them a pathway to say, well, we're now going to fully back Donald Trump. They're not Democrat voters anyway. But Kamala Harris ignoring the media, it's obviously a strategy. It's obviously a tactic. It's bad for democracy that we have two candidates in the running to lead the free world who ignore the mainstream press and prefer to do interviews on social media.
I mean, the.
Only interviewer she's done is interviewing Tim wat and he interviewing her. That's supposed to be the big interview the convention timing that's just ridiculous. It's really poor in terms of what the Democrats are seeking to do to build her up. But they're used to having election campaigns that go for two years. They don't understand this ninety day model like we do here in Australia.
Well, dare I say the policy or ideas one, Linda, you would have had put form much more detail running for local government than they are. You know, when it comes to the American politics, I've got literally sixty seconds your thoughts on it and the past week and the.
I still think it's a really open election. It's going to be just such fascinating watching. I think Kamale has had a great convention, but that doesn't mean she's going to win. But the Trump demographic change I think is still just not talked about enough. You know, the teams does have endorsed Trump RFK. I mean, these are really significant demographic changes. The Democrats are targeting, you know, ethnic minorities, people of color. It's changed. It's a really different America.
It's going to be a different election. I still think it's very up for grabs.
Yeah, and I just think that, you know, I get it the people who are in charge of this stuff of New York and Los Angeles and DC, right, but that ain't where they've got to win. They've got to win lots of other places, and that's where they think people like you know, you've got to listen to some of these local senators that are obviously.
Into the MAZ You know they always the mas correct.
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