Paul Murray Live | 24 April

country as seeing the sunrise here. It's going to be pretty moving and a lot of beachside services will take place. I hope that you will get up before the light breaks. If you can't, I hope you have the opportunity to mark not just the fallen, those left behind, families change forever, and a country all the better for their service. It is the most significant day on our calendar. Strength and love and thanks to any and everyone who has or

is currently serving in the defense forces of our country. Now, of course, when it comes to the election, one more big event for us here on sky and it is going to be Tuesday night. Peter Dutton in the man Cave. He'll be in the man Cave four and ask me anything session. Now you've seen a pub test, you've seen a people's forum. They're great, they're awesome, They're what we do best. But obviously there are only in one location

at one time. Well, by Peter Dutton, the alternative Prime Minister, being in the man Cave on Tuesday night, we have the opportunity to take questions from you where you are now, Okay, now, I'll be honest. Thank you so much to everyone from Nissa, Baz and Victoria as well as Queensland. You follow outed the emails last night. All right, but I want to make sure that we spread the map that we go from the tip of the North to Tazzy across to where I am right now and all points in between.

So if you like me in Western Australia, now, if you're in the Green's capital of the Act, Tazzy South Australian Northern Territory in particular, do you have a question for Peter Dutton, not just what does you think about nuclear Why does Elbow keep lying? What are you to do for me on the cost of livy think slightly outside the box so they can be as serious as you choose. Pub test at Skynews dot com dot Au.

Now I need you tell about number and your location because we are trying to work out and we're trying to pull this together in a couple of days. But unlike the ABC, there's not a committee of a thousand people doing it. It's our little team on top of doing the shows, on top of the ourtowns. So we want to be able to send cameras all over the country. We want to see people's faces from all different states. Okay,

so don't sit back. If you are like me, in Western Australia right now or in all of those other places that I mentioned, send me an email tonight pub test at skynews dot com that are you with your question for the Ask Me Anything session that we will have with Peter Dutton in the Man Cave on Tuesday night. Make sure he give us your telephone number two. Then we can get in touch and it all works out quickly. Okay.

Our team's doing a great job. Thank you to all of them working behind the scenes while I get to have the fun job, which is talking to you tonight. Of course, it is just well eight days away from a federal election, nine days they should say, we're not in a time warp. Yet, just nine days before the federal election, how's this one point one three to two medium people have already voted. Now, that was a number

which was day one, Day two. Today was day three of early voting, So you got to wait another day for those numbers to kick in. When those numbers kick in, obviously that number which we told you was going up by about five hundred thousand a day, means we're going to be pushing two million. Now. Remember, of course, the polling places will not be open tomorrow for the obvious reasons it's a public holiday. But but they will be open on Saturday. Now, normally the pre polls are not

open on the Saturday before the election. But instead all of the places that you've been able to vote Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, you will be able to vote on Saturday, Okay, then of course Sunday, and then we're back into it all the way Monday, Tuesday, all the way to Friday. Some of the people who have voted early, and I want you to vote early this time because you've got your

your mind made up. You know what the situation is, you know what the stakes are, you know why we need to change the country and the only way to do that is to change the government. But some people who run into sky news cameras today around the country, what did they do with their vote? Regional's forgotten and you have look at all their wonderful promises. Bugger all throughout the regional And Buddy Rue, how bad is the traffic?

the age of fifty. We all know that our politics is played too close to the cities too much around the populated areas without remembering, of course there one hundred and fifty seats around the country. You have to talk to both parts of Tasmania. You've got to get to Western Australia and not just throw it all around in Perth. You've got to go to the Northern territory. But of course not just Darwin Alice springs a state that matters

in South Australia. There are many seats that are currently held or up for grabs, or ones that might swap. So it's not just a conversation inside Adelaide. Well said by that bloke saying that particularly regional areas are not getting the service and focus that they deserve. I couldn't agree more. In terms of those that have voted early, that more than a million people, most likely one and a half minion. By the time we wake up tomorrow

and get the formal confirmation, where is the early vote happening? Well, the AEC also gives us the information about the pre poll locations where it's gone off the charts. It's happening

in where or in Western Sydney. Now interestingly, there this is supposedly a relatively safe Labor seat, which either means there's some vote being banked or when things were really good for the Libs in the polls a couple of months ago, where was one of those ones that they thought they might be able to flip and out of Western Sydney. So someone banking the vote. Are people lining

up to change the government? One thing we know is they don't want to wait till not this but next Saturday to vote in the seat of Bowman in Queensland, Flinders, in Victoria, Fadden in Queensland, Fowler, of course, the great die Leey. Interesting and fascinating to note there again a community that isn't going to wait until nine days away. They're doing it, and they're doing it right now. The seat of Herbert with our mate Philip Thompson. May his

margin grow. Remember when that was a marginal seat just a few elections ago. He's now thumping it in and around Townsville. He is one of the best and he is one of the great future hopes of the Liberal National Party and Liberal Party around the country. Speaking of I hope of the side Andrew Hasty here in wa his seat of Canning. He's doing a lot of work

to hold on to it. There's a fascinating fight happening, particularly in and around Codderslowe at the moment with the fight around Curtin and getting rid of the teeal there. But he's doing his bit and hopefully will be returned and very strongly in the seat of Canning, Gordon, Forrest and Griffith where the battle is the former Prime Minister's electric which was taken over by the Grands Labor in

the fight to try to take it back. Now, on top of all of this early voting question, it's not just people who go to the local community hall to vote early. It's a number of people who won't physically

go to a polling place at all. And I double checked this number and had to triple check it because almost three million people have made an application for a postal vote two point three so far, but there's a whole collection of other requests that the expectation is this number could get, as I said, to the best part of three million people, but right now two point three millions.

So if you put that together with a million and a bit they've already voted, most likely one and a half million that have already voted, you put that together with the two and a bit almost three. There's a lot of people who are going to be making a

decision and going, frankly, nowhere near a democracy sausage. As for where the leaders were today, the Prime Minister, well, amazingly, the Labor Party is starting to bring back a couple of talking points from the start of the election, which might mean that they have to put the scare into some people. What do they know behind the scenes that we don't know publicly. This is what he said today.

for the next forty years. Remember a few weeks ago I told you about the carturn from the nineteen sixties, the Jetsons well, that was set in twenty sixty two. And guess what will also happen with flying cars and Rosie the robot and Astro the dog. A federal budget deficit for Australia. That's the position that the Labor Party

has put us in. That is the expectation, despite the fact that population, which I remember, has already spiked under this government, pushing up by hundreds of thousands, the best part of a couple of minion in the couple of years that they have been here and done before. For this garbage, it's Australians. It's not Australians returning, all right.

It is tipping more people into the country. And those more people add to every queue, every queue in the country, be it a rental cue, waiting for a hospital, trying to get your kids into school, All of that matters. As for Peter Dudden his announcement today, let's keep an eye on what he was doing today.

keep the current system in place. Firstly, ideologically, they of course are to the left, the hard left or the even crazy left, and they like the arrangement they currently have with the Prime Minister because of course, not only is it the side that they like, but this is the side that gives them what they want, a little drip feed of stories that means they're able to look like they're right on top of their jobs, despite the fact that most of them, of course, are focused on

an area that was the only part of the country to vote yes when sixty percent of the rest of the country was voting no. These are the people who, well, they hate talking about the cost of living crisis. Why because it's too real. They want to get back to mythical conversations about energy and climate change as opposed to

the realities of important about where people get their food from. Now, for those that are about to go and run off to the umpire, let me be clear, I'm not suggesting the conversation about climate change or the environment is mythical because it isn't true. I'm just saying they prefer the conversations that are a little more up there but down here with you and I, which means this is the type of questions that the Prime minister gets after a

horrible three years of being prime minister. Remember, for the past two years, more than fifty percent of the country is said we're headed in the wrong direction, and up to sixty percent of the country we're saying that he was doing a poor or very poor job. But then the ugel booger of Donald Trump and suddenly twenty percent of people have changed their mind in the past couple

of months. Well, I'll show you tonight. There's a good chance that in the next couple of weeks they might change their mind back because this bloke is being exposed by a liar, but not by the media who's traveling with him.

Remember the press gallery must kill off Peter Dutton's chance of getting out our first gear. They must never give him the opportunity to be able to get on the front foot. He must always remain on defense because if he remains on defense he can go. He cannot get into attack. And we know, just go back to that voice conversation that he joined the No campaign when it

was sixty forty. Yes, but he ended up standing there on the night where the majority of Australians had seen it, that argued it and agreed with him, which is why they treat Peter Dutton like this.

Of course not? Should report us absolutely poke holes in ideas being suggested by the major Candidate's great, but I'd love to see it on the Prime Minister's side. They don't do any of this stuff to the Prime Minister, which means they are only trying to do it to show and we show you. What they won't show you. See what they show you is the headline, and the headline will be no, I am not unprepared Peter Dutton. That'll be the quote to send the subtle message, jeez,

what is He's running out of ideas? He's not prepared. But of course it's a reaction to the preposition of the question that they have been asked by the reporter. Perfect example. Remember I showed you on Channel nine last night in their debate. They were the one so asked the question. Also a former police officer, do you think that's made you a little bit too black and white, a little bit too hard? He turns around and says, well,

I'm proud of being a police officer. And then that was spun by Channel nine the night after the debate into Peter Dutton says that his experience as a police officer is the reason why he can take on the word you asked the question. Now, I get it. You live in a busy life. Majority of people they are watching this conversation right now, But I'm watching the people who are trying to spin the ball. The people who look down on this program, look down on people like you,

think that we are surplus to the conversation. You saw the way Monique Ryan reacted to Laura Jays this week because Laura was there to expose the double standard of that person pushing too one side Instead, their entire media strategy is that as long as the prime minister is always on offense, then the opposition leader is always on defense. If the opposition leader is always on defense, he looks like the loser in an election. That's how they spin

the ball, and they do it every single day. Now again, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that the polls are wrong now but they were right two months ago. No, they are a reflection of the mood. But you know who helps set the mood of the country, the source of information that you get. And I'll get to that in a moment or two's time. But let's take a moment to talk about the greatest prime minister of all time getting ready for the great reelection. Oh,

you can imagine when this bloke gets re elected. If this bloke gets re erected, he'll be the first Labor prime minister re elected, all right, since Bob Hawk in the nineties. He'd be the first prime minister of either political party to go to two elections and win two elections since John Howd in two thousand and four. Ah, the history that will be made, the bronze statues that will be built to this man, the public holidays that

will be renamed. But he's got a glass jaw, and that's because he only likes a fight that he can win. And anyone who pushes back, you're going to copy it. And I said at the time, and I repeat tonight, that I do not care that Anthony Aberzi fell off a stage in Newcastle photos with everyone, Okay, I repeat, I do not care that the Prime Minister fell over. Makes me think of the end of the Revenge of

the Sith. Wasn't that episode three in Star Wars, which I think is in cinemas because of the twentieth anniversary this weekend, the slow Moobidal. But what was interesting to me was that Anthony Abernesi lied about whether he fell off a stage. Again, who cares, right, No one's choosing their vote on whether we do he didn't fall off the stage, right, And we've all had a little stumble, and we've all had that thing where we're just walking down the street and your ankle rolls and you start

wabbling and you feel like quite a fool. Okay, it's not a great feeling, especially when people are looking, let alone TV cameras and photos. But remember what is worth noticing is that he lies about things. He's lying about Medicare, he's lying about the plans of the opposition when it comes to the energy transition. But when he lies about whether he falls off the stage or not, like he did on the radio in Newcastle the same afternoon, we have a problem.

today and who that glass? Job? Baby crickety quick quick crack, like, honestly, this bloke he's this was him today when he was asked about it, and old Glass your Albow doesn't like it.

off the stage or not. What's the worst moment of this campaign so far?

I stand by it right now. A triangle of lies. Thank you, appreciate who just gave me that idea. But still just a double check whether the Prime Minister did or didn't fall off the stage, of which I don't care.

in this election is what are you voting for? What are you voting against? Why you're voting for the government, Why are you voting against the government, Why you're voting for the opposition, why you're voting against them? Why you're voting whinner party and what are you doing when it comes to your preference, right, Because I always think that you should have not just an idea about what you want to reject, but what you want to endorse as well.

That's the reality of a vote. But for an awful lot of people, for some reason, they have been pulled in by the lies the Prime Minister has been saying around healthcare. Remember, up until the very start of this year, and at the start of this year, cost of living was the number one issue in the country. It was an issue that he was losing on because he'd been around for the past couple of years. Remember he spent four undred and fifteen million dollars on a yes, no question.

He's the one who took fifteen hundred dollars off ten million workers. But they know that. Yep, Labor Party, let's talk about medicare. Change your subject. Media will go along with us. Sure, they will count the number of times Peter Dutton goes to a petrol station, but they don't seem to keep any sort of a running tally on the number of times he stands in front of the strengthening Medicare sign, which, of course the idea, by the way, the idea that the logo of Medicare is now associated

with lay Ybber Party campaign tactics. Remember that is an independent organization, but they're pretending it's part of the Labor Party. Right, No one calls that rule out. But that's not the point I'm about to make you. The point the Prime Minister has made many, many, many times, so much so that he is probably sick of saying it, which means people are they're only just starting to pay attention to it, is that you will only need your Medicare card to

go to the doctor. A simple prop to suggest that every time you have a look in your wallet, you'll be reminded that it's the Labor Party who will make sure that you never have to worry about paying extra when it comes to going to the doctor.

You see, Mark Butler was at the National Press Club a couple of days ago, and it's normally a home game, a home ground game for a left leaning politician like himself.

But now with a week to go in the election, when more than a million people have voted, when potentially maybe three million people have voted because they've filled out their ballot papers already, the truth has been exposed that under this plan there will still be plenty of people who will need more than their Medicare to go Medicare card to go and see a doctor. Roll the tape because you need to remember this when you talk to your family this weekend.

may not happen. Why because doctors are openly saying that that won't be the system regardless of what the government tells them to do, because it's not the government that decides, it's the GP that decides how much they bulk bill versus how much extra you have to pay on top of the bulk billing and rushed in middle stump shadow Health Minister.

right to pretend is it's branding. If that's the case, then literally the Liberal Party, if they wanted to, would be able to wear camouflage each and every day and stand in front of a tank and with a Liberal Party logo on it. It's a lie, and it's a lie to change the subject. And even then the doctors are saying that they won't deliver it. And it brings me to the last thing I want to say to

you tonight. You have to have the conversations with your family, not to browbeat them, not to make them feel bad, not to make them feel stupor, but you need to remind them, hey, hey, well, or let's get back where you were a couple of months ago, before they changed the subject, before they besked, before they started to spin like mad tops. And in fact, the number one source of information about politics and current affairs in Australia is

not social media. It's not the traditional media, it's not the new media. It's family and friends. This was an essential poll which was released just a couple of months ago and it shows about the trust that people have in the information and where it comes from. You can see there the best part of what eighty percent of people they believe that friends and family are the ones they trust a little or a lot. That's more than newspapers, TV, radio,

more than social media. And it doesn't matter whether you vote red, blue, green, orange or anything else. Guess what it still is the number one thing that people trust when it comes to information about the news and information about elections. For three years, we have counted the grains of sand. For three years we have told you every single thing this government has done to make life worse.

If you need a reminder of the things to bring up with those who may well have just been too busy to pay the same attention as you can, I go through the list for you. Don't forget here. This is a government that promised to make things better when it came to cost living, but the reality was if you go the supermarketing, they're paying double then you did three years ago. Remember they were going to cut two ee hundred and seventy five dollars off your power bill.

Will your power bill has gone up bye hundreds, probably one thousand dollars by now. The government has decided to increase taxes to the highest ever levels on booze, cigarettes and petrol. Fifty cents in every liter of petrol is tax. Sixty three percent of one bottle of Bundy run is tax right now, and the Prime Minister can't promise that it gets better in the next three years. Are you prepared to repeat that pledge in another three years time.

Oh no, that's a culture war. Do you trust the people who called you a dinosaur or a dickhead because you didn't change the constitution to the way they wanted you to vote. Do you really believe that because I like this guy more than I like that guy, we should hire all of these guys and girls for the next three years. Yeah. Let's bring back the Communications minister who, along with the Prime Minister, wanted to censor the Internet.

Let's bring back the Energy Minister who is promising hundreds of billions of dollars more for renewables, which of course means you ruin the land to save the atmosphere. Or what about his left wing rival Tanya Plippasik, who's already got a deal in place to pass the Nature positive

laws which would ruin places like Western Australia. Does anyone want to hire clueless Clara now for the job she currently does, which is all about saying were's doing something about houses rather than actually building houses, going on television like she did yesterday saying cad Marc Cada Mark because she didn't like it. You want Tony Burke to be in charge of immigration, borders and stacking suburbs over the next three years. I've had enough of this bloke. I've

had enough of the gas lighting. I've had enough of the lives. I've had enough of the each way. I've had enough of them looking down at us. So you have the conversations this weekend, because people just two months ago were ready to get rid of them. Perhaps after two days of conversation with you, they will be again

quick break back with more here on Paulmurray Life. Thank you so much for watching wherever you're happen to be, looking forward to our conversation with Christiy McSweeney, Darren Bunnette and then Lee Hansen live from Tasmania in the Battle to take down Jackie Lamby. On a second, thank you so much for watching. I am in Perth tonight on our way to caw Gooley this weekend and I'm going to reveal something to you a national icon, and I mean icon. There will not be a single person watching

this show who does not know. And I'm going to bet love this Australian who's going to be with us in Cawgooley. That's all I can say. You thought it was great when we had Daryl Braithwaite singing horses. We're going to go up agear up a gear baby special guest Cowgoley Sunday night. Tuesday night is when Peter Dutton will be in the man Cave taking your questions. Ask

me anything. Now. We've got plenty of people who've given us their answers on the East Coast, but I'd love to hear from people in Tasmania, South Australian Northern Territory here around tonight in Perth, in wonderful Western Australia. Okay, your name, your number, your location, your question Peter Dunton asked me anything Tuesday night in the man Cave. In the meantime, I'll be asking Christy McSweeney and Darren Bunnett whatever I want, because that's the joy of being the

host and then being the guests. Love you to see you both this Thursday night. So I'm going to start with you first, Darren, which is did the medi Care medi scare lie get a crack and a bit of an own goal by what the healthinesster said yesterday? And I know this deep into the game, not as many people will hear the truth as opposed to the lie that's gone around the world a few times now. Was that a moment that well they would be hoping happened in the last week, not in the second last week?

That they still don't have momentum, and they still manage to have the stories each day predominantly about them, and that's been the drama that at the start of the year, the story was about Albanesi and his government, and I watched the bit of your show before was waiting all of the ministers, that they've got their own records, they've got their own list of what you would call non achievements, that people were aware of all of that, But a new story and a new narrative has taken over, and

that's the problem that the opposition has. With a week to go, they're not necessarily in much stronger a position than they were at the start of the campaign.

the cost shifting of health services. Who pays for impatient, who pays for outpatient and so the point of that is the Government's been very skilled at distilling their scare campaign into one message. Now, yes that message is false, but the opposition hasn't distilled their rebuttal or their counter attack into something equally as simple. I've heard really good speeches from Anne Rusten yesterday, the shadow Health Minister. I've

heard really good speeches from Angus Taylor. I've heard the right narrative and I've heard the right sentiment, but I haven't heard the correct messaging. That's simple, that's non complex. And you know, Tony Abbott was so successful stop the boat's acts attacks, labor has been very successful. Where for childcare, medicare, for rising your wages? In the last twenty twenty two campaign, there's been a vacuum of well, what are those messages

for the coalition. There's been really good assessments and really good speeches made, but it hasn't been distilled to that messaging framework.

for a long time now. But the idea that somebody was assaulted at a polling place yesterday, that somebody was arrested because of having a knife, another person kicking over signs, people punching at public forums, why is it this wild? Because it does feel wild alone all the people ripping into the posts. Christie, is this wilder than what you experienced three years ago?

People on the fringe of the left and people on the fringe of the right engage in extreme behaviors, and we've certainly have seen the evolution or the acceleration of extreme fringe groups on either binary position, whereas we probably didn't have that in Australia, you know, twenty years ago when I first started doing that. So that fringe element, combined with we're able to see it more now because of social media, makes it feel like it's more and more common.

But you were there in the Gillard years, and I remember twenty ten was pretty wild.

I think that people now feel that they can run up to an event, even if they don't have an official invite. They'll talk their way in. They know that the cameras will follow them. I think there's a little bit of that, and that comes from all sectors of the kind of the hard left and others. It's I don't think we can point the finger in any particular direction.

But even today there was some stuff out of a candidate forum in the seat of Kuyong that was a little bit ugly that there's lots of pieces that disturb everyday ordinary peace loving Australians that they look at this and I think even both leaders have said it, but the greatest thing about our democracy is we don't have armed guards at ballot boxes that people can support different teams, that you can run up on the day, there's no pressure.

You can cast your vote and you can move on and I hope we never lose that.

in a row for Fiona Patten. But that's a place that has got a couple of people elected to the Upper House before. So Christy, where do you think there's a smoky be at a particular party that no one's talking about? Remember a couple of elections ago. What was it the Australian Sporting Party or something got up before there was a revote here in way.

as well and a strong Palmer vote. Let's see how the preferences fall they're combined with that twenty five percent swing against Labor in the state election and seats like pers Labor is tracking ahead so far. But you know, I will say the polls are all within a margin of era. They're very very tight. It's still anyone's rights. It's a preference algorithm, and the major party polls are still within that margin of era. So really interesting. We're in for a very very interesting night.

two smokies. And it may well be that one nation picked them up, but it could just as easily be, as you say, someone from a cannabis party or a legalized cannabis party, or maybe even Jackie Lamby picks one up in South Australia with Rex Patrick. But who can say. And it's entirely possible that Lee Hanson gets there in Tazzy. It's going to be. I think the Senate race, as always is going to be fascinating. But Hanson's decision to preference the Libs in one hundred and twenty three seats.

I think it is that could kick up something in the Lower House as well. So for us political tragics, there's always something to keep us occupied.

Tazzy next. Every now and then there is someone in Australian politics and you get a sense it's going to be around for a while, but also it's going to be a bit of a rock star. I think that about Lee Hansen. She is running for One Nation in Tasmania and we are throwing as much as we can behind her because it's about time Tasmania had somebody who doesn't just fire up, but somebody's actually responsible representing them. And Lee Hanson joins us. Now she's in Richmond in

Tasmania right now, how's the campaign made? Just a week and a bit to go, But of course people voting as we speak, they are, Hi, Paul, it is.

agenda here in Tasmania. There are naturally some other sensitive and Tasmania specific topics which obviously hearing a lot of concerns about you know, how do we support our forestry industry, our salmon industry as well our mining industries here down in Tasmania too. So it is heartbreaking hearing the stories as people come up and have been asking for help, they want change, They're looking for change and have been seeking that in me, which has been fabulous.

different things in different places. But let's talk about yes, like almost in a tactical sense, right, which is that Jackie Lamby seemingly has been able to make the most out of the North. Is that where you see people need to change their minds tactically. Where are you focused at the moment as the most fertile ground for one nation and for your candidates? Look to be.

One Nation. I do think One Nation's biggest support is obviously in the rural and regional remote regions, particularly in the north and northwest and far south, because that is where they're being hit the hardest in regards to the cost of housing and the loss of jobs and these big issues such as salmon and farming, salmon and forestry which has been hot topics. So they're looking for people for these political parties to support them and not boycott

them or throw them under the bus. And that's what we're offering. The difference with One Nation being family values for so across the whole state wholeheartedly, but definitely in the rural and regional remote areas in particular.

as well. And then on the other hand, being a mother with children going through the primary school and seeing what they're taught and the concerns in regards to the national curriculum, as well as seeing our teachers in need of help and wanting support in trying to port our children as well. So for us and here in Tasmania, fifty percent of our children leave school being illiterate. Now there's a number of reasons contributing to why that be,

but that is a huge problem. And if you think about if fifty percent of them are leaving I literate, we are not setting them up for success for their future and we are not setting them up for success for the future workforce. Now you think about a fifty percent of literate, what pathway and we have the lowest uptake of students then going into university when we are an island, a state of our own that needs to

be sustainable. So our critical jobs such as the health industry, or our teachers in education or engineers, those jobs we need to attract and retain and build in the state.

We've got the lowest pipeline already. So then and then you think at the other end, when they're coming out of university, a lot of these jobs have university degrees, aren't doing the placements to actually learn what it's like to work in the real world, and then when they hit the workforce, they get a big shock in the face because it's not what they thought it was.