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I've got some big news for you in a moment's time, But first you join us on.
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Well, Stephen Conroy finally be able to get one over.
The carry out a champ prom and Bishop.
We'll all find out together as we get very close to this federal election.
The wonderful Megan Kelly.
The only place you see are on a stradiing TV is this channel, this show, this night.
And we generally don't like, sincerely compare people to Aidolf Hitler.
Right, of course they did it to Trump.
And now Larry David wants to say, ha ha ha, isn't it funny he had dinner with Hitler.
Look what he did, Bill.
Maher, I mean, it's so absurd, and Larry David at some level is too smart not to know that it's absurd.
Like you can't see.
Through the TBS, Paul, it's a serious affliction.
Now I've got some big news for you, ten days away from a federal election. All of it is on the line, a fork in the road for the country. And I in all the time we've been doing shows here have been very lucky to be able to go at lots of locations around the country and when it comes to elections, to do pub tests in specific locations around the country. But it's time for us to go coast to coast, from the top to the bottom to everywhere in the country, especially where you are right now.
We're going to launch a new idea. The new idea is a segment we're going to call Ask Me Anything, like the ones that have been on the Internet for a long time, but a full hour of your questions from all over the country for the man who wants to be the next Prime Minister Peter Dutton in the Man Cave on Tuesday night, So less than a week away, Tuesday Night in the Man Cave here answering your questions
from all over the country. Now, this is a massive undertaking behind the scenes and I want to thank everyone who's putting this together because it's going to be mega. We want to be able to send cameras to different parts of the country. We want to be able to talk to you maybe from the home setup that you've got. We want to read the questions that you're going to send us. I haven't had time to change the email. So let's use the one of pubtests at skynews dot
com dot Au. Any question, any subject, serious, silly or whatever you want to ask Peter Dutton. You can do it from your house. You can do it from your city. You don't have to leave to be in a specific location. The location is Paul Murray Live Tuesday, the twenty ninth of April. Do you have a question for the man who would be Prime Minister? Send the email with your question and where you're from so we can make sure we get as much of the country covered as possible
in sixty minutes. It'll be a fantastic way of covering how people feel in the final days of this election. Next Tuesday night, Peter Dutton ask me anything live in the man Cave. Your questions right now? Do it right now. Pubtest at skynews dot com dot Are you, Who are you? Where are you from? What's the question that you want to ask? I can't wait Tuesday night. The People's Forum wonderful, but it's in one location. Pubtest wonderful, but it's in
one location. This asked me anything is nationwide. Send the email. Pubtest at skynews dot com dot Au. Ten days to go until the federal election, and of course voting has already begun. In fact, there's some estimates that after the first full day of early voting and now the second full day of early voting, this will be confirmed tomorrow. But a million people have already voted. Remember all up eighteen million people get the chance to vote.
So we are off and racing.
According to the AEC, the Australian Electoral Commission, the places that have been the most popular thus far Fadden in Queensland, Flinders in Victoria, Canning in Western Australia, Bowman in Queensland, Fowler in New South Wales, Hawk in Victoria, Aston in Victoria, Bonner in Queensland, Lindsay in Western Sydney, and Herbert in and around Townsville. So it looks like lots of people, lots of states, and those are the locations that have been the most popular of almost a million people who
have already voted. But there is some agro that is starting to appear. None of this is acceptable in any way, shape or form, and when it hits a criminal standard, well it gets even more serious. Reporting today that a pre pole location in the seat of Graindler of course currently held and expected to be retained by the Prime Minister Anthony Albernezi. There was an incident where a man
who I believe was in his eighties was assaulted. I'll let Eddie Meyer from Channel nine explain when this was breaking news.
Just a couple of hours ago.
Around one o'clock this afternoon, volunteers here were handing out how to vote cards at the pre polling station. A man in his eighties wearing a Make America Great Again hat, walked over to an Anthony Albanezi poster and then he allegedly went to deface it. One of the volunteers approached him asked him not to do that.
An altercation broke out.
Now, at this point, a seventeen year old boy was crossing the seat the street. He saw this and thought the man was being aggressive towards the woman. He allegedly struck the eighty year old, who fell to the ground. He was then taken to hospital in a serious condition. As for the boy, well, he sat down here and waited for police.
He was arrested. Now.
Police have spent the afternoon much of the afternoon speaking to the witnesses here and also collecting evidence Australia.
We're better than this. This is not acceptable. It is not acceptable. Violence is not part of the Australian discourse, no matter how passionately we feel, or in this case, what Channel nine is framing as what someone saw from the other side of the meantime in Benelon, Labour's most marginal seat, or sorry, one of its most marginal seats, somebody decided to turn up today and refer to something
such as f polling. This video is available on the Daily Telegraph's website and is also at skynews dot com dot au of somebody just kicking signs over again.
Not acceptable.
The people who are participating in our democracy, those being the people whose names are on the ballot or the people who are handing out vote cards, are not to be the subject of this sort of garbage. It is not acceptable. I hope that that person is held to a reasonable standard and if it can be investigated and identified, it should be as it should be, of course, of the situation involving the prepole in the Prime Minister's own seat. This is above team Red, team Blue, Team Green, team Yellow,
team Orange, or team I don't want to vote. This is not on it is not acceptable. And while it gives me no pleasure to tell you about this tonight, we can tell you about it tonight because hopefully the national response.
Is the obvious this is not okay. Now. Part of that million people that are already voting.
I echo the message, go and vote tomorrow if you genuinely undecided. Okay, wait, you've got to ten days left. And hopefully things like ask me anything next week with Peter duddon questions to pubtest that skuynews dot com, that are you?
Who are you? What's your question? Where are you from?
But I send this message every night because I think it is important. Do you want three more years like the last three years? Remember what they promised last time. What they promised was that a labor government would lower the cost of living. What, of course happened was a cost of living crisis, one where you could be paying double double what you were paying at supermarkets. People are hundreds or almost thousands of dollars worse off when it comes to power bills, far away from the promise of
them being two hundred and seventy five dollars cheaper. This government made choices to increase taxes when people were suffering. They increased the tax on petrol to fifty cents per liter. A change in government would see that halved in its first year. A bottle of Bundie rum sixty three percent of it is tax. The high cigarette taxes has produced a black market that of course is being run by organized crime. All of those decisions ones of this government.
The consequences of this government again one point six million Australian households who cannot afford their mortgage after twelve interst rate rises. Two out of three people in our country can't afford rent. Why would anyone rehire a government that has created a scenario where three million people are on the verge of homelessness.
Why would you re elect.
A government that spends more money advertising itself than helping the three point seven million Australian households that will run out of food, thirty thousand businesses that no longer exist, budget deficits for the next forty years, and while we pass a trillion dollars this year, if you reelect this mob and their budget numbers are right, it's one point two trillion dollars worth of debt under this government. The performance of Australian schools is some of the worst it.
Has ever been.
This is not a culture war.
This is about the future of our country.
One in three kids cannot meet basic reading, writing, literacy and mathematic standards. I refuse to live in a country where if you have pride in Australian Day and what it represents about our future, not the date, which is all about the past, that is not a culture war. That is you being proud of your country. Remember, the same people who are telling you you can't change the government are the same ones who called you a dinosaur or a dickhead if you didn't want to change the constitution.
I have had enough of the gas lighting and the lies. Politely we call each way albo. I refuse to have another three years of Albonomics, where the federal government spins lies and creates a fake growing economy through the money
they are spending and now borrowing to do so. The good news about all of this is that last night the debate that I was very critical of and I remain so about the way Channel nine run it well, about a million people watched it live and even people who are hard cores and anti Dutton, they said that he won the debate. Nothing is inevitable, nothing is over. Forget the polls, forget the bookies. It is you and your preferences. What you do with number two is just
as important as number one. Choose a government, change a government, vote to morrow. Ten days ago in the election, Anthony Albanezi today made his way to Western Australia where he decided to have a crack at Peter Dunton in and around the nuclear issues.
He has a six hundred billion dollar nuclear energy plan. He needs to tell Australians before the election, not afterwards, where the cuts will be made. Mister Dutton who refuses to visit this site, but who refuses to visit any of the sites, any of the seven sites, he hasn't been there any of them.
Massive twenty one billion dollar announcement over the next few years to improve our defense was where Peter Dutton was today. Remember when we have a look at some of the data, Peter Dutton and the Coalition are considered to be the better choice when it comes to national defense and they are putting their money where their mouth is here he is talking about that defense spending today, including with Andrew Hasty, who would be the Defense Minister, in a Dutton government.
Today we make a very significant announcement of over twenty billion dollars to defense over the course of the next five years, which will bring spending up to two point five percent of GDP. It will be an important expenditure because we need to keep our country safe.
We keep an eye on how the media constantly spins this for the Prime Minister. How's this for tough questioning today of their preferred candidate at this election.
You mentioned before that your mum had visited this service many years I go. What's sort of benefits did she get from visiting a place like this day?
We're expecting to make further industrial relations.
To change in your next work debate last night, the negative attacks from both sides of politics are really ramped up as early voting begins and we're getting closer to election day. Are you worried that the negativity from both sides in the election will just cancel out at the end of the day going through that voters would just turn that off?
Last night you confirmed that you will the forts of tech giants to pay for news.
When will you release the detail?
This is not even being hit with a lettus leaf. This is being tickled with a feather.
Keep an eye for the next few days when all of those reporters who've done the right thing by never rocking the boat or get a chance to have a one on one with the Prime minister. This is when they start to pay off the behavior of the media. Now, in previous elections, what I'm about to show you would have been a story that would have lasted a whole week. But we live in this strange new media environment when if something happens on Channel seven, Channel nine, it's not
going to talk about it. If something happens here, then the ABC is not going to talk about it. Well, Claar O'Neil showed herself not just to be clueless, but to be nasty on breakfast television today. Think about this while people were getting their kids ready, or tucking into your bit of toast before you run out, or maybe hooking into some weak bigs corn flakes, or all of the other options.
I won't list them all for you.
Here this is a person who remember got sacked as the minister who had responsibility for our immigration system, but she thinks she's the future of the Labor Party.
If it is, it's ugly.
Working from home has become integral to how a family.
You know, many families in life.
Just suggesting that you haven't thrown any musk.
Sorry, do you minds don't want to fight? Do you mind if I speak, Jane? If you don't mind, I'm not interrupting me. S. This work from home issue. You know, it was a terrible thing to do, and I talked to families. It's policy, and they're not saying to me. They're saying to me, this is the policy. They're saying to me, this is the only way that our family can actually get through that week our policy. So stop talking, Jane. I'm so sorry, Jane. Can we try to just be
polite to each other. You've had your turn. I've been polite, and now I'd like, yes, be thirty seconds. So I think work from home is a real problem, but it just reflects policy. It just it just reflects a broader issue for the coalition that it's.
Not our policy.
So you can carry a j You are being so incredibly rude, Jane, Please be quite.
So you're saying about something that is relevant. Jane.
This is a democracy and I'm a politician trying to have my say.
I listen to you politely, can you please your sleeping man and you're continuing to do sleep now? Can you can you silence their microphone?
Please?
You know what I'd love to I think you've got your point across.
So she tells lies. Jane Hin calls her out. Her response cut a mic. These were the people who wanted to censor the internet what she wanted to do to her political opponent, they want to do to you in terms of what you can say on the internet. Make no mistake, this is a high stake selection. This really matters because people like that around the cabinet table have no interest in anyone who's willing to push back, let alone call out their bs as for a different way
the media handles the alternative Prime Minister. Compare that to the questions that you just saw asked of the Prime Minister.
Why is it a.
Deal breaker for you when it comes to Ukraine if you are not siding with Marga? What kind of al are we if we don't come to help you get some.
Of those questions answered?
Would you from Keir Starmer say, would you be willing to change your mind?
I don't have Respectively, would.
You be willing to change your mind, mister Dotton, haven't heard.
You say where the money is coming from? Where are you're getting the cash from? You're doing this in response to Donald Trump suggesting that countries like Australia should increase their GDP. Trump has done that recently, within the last twelve It's.
Saint of a lot of money over the decade.
How will you fund that?
It's the centerpiece of your energy policy.
Why are you avoiding visiting those towns? Are you worried about backlash?
Honestly, I mean honestly again, no one's there to sit there and just say, look, say whatever you want, We'll never push back. And there should be the pushback. But come on, they think this guy is going to lose. They think that they can beat up harder and harder and harder. And remember, these are all the people who didn't think today there was any story whatsoever in a cabinet minister turning around and saying to their political opponents, cut they might get rid of them, silence them, shut
them up. Unbelievable, unbelievable. And then what about this again from Channel nine. I'm sorry, I keep beating up, but they keep giving us the content. Look at how they decided to play almost the only highlight of the debate they had on their own channel. This was in their six PM news tonight.
The opposition leader in Nine's Great Debate last night that his background as a policeman made him better suited than his rival to deal with the security challenges ahead.
Hardened is a word that people use.
It Do we need more of a hard man as a leader?
Kindness isn't weakness.
He they asked him a question about being a police officer.
They have the tape, it.
Was on their air, but they just pretend he randomly brought up being a police officer because that'll make him tough dealing with China, which is why we need to spend the defense money.
Dear goodness.
Honestly, now, as you know, I'm a data guy, well hobbyist. Dare I say, which is I love trying to have a look at the stuff that's not opinion, that's not a maybe, but sources of data that don't come from ideological think tanks, but come from organizations whose sole purpose is to be the facts, the truth in the middle right. And I've been spending a lot of time in the
past couple of days going over the electoral role. Yes, my life is that exciting and trying to look at Okay, how has the eighteen million people that are going to vote this election be different than the Midians who voted the last one, let alone five years ago. A pardon me, five years ago.
Ten years ago.
And we know that one of the obvious schisms that you've heard about a lot is that there are now more younger voters than older voters. For the purpose of this conversation, we're going to draw the line at fifty and there are now more voters who are under the
age of fifty than over the age of fifty. So while I have all of the numbers and all of the receipts to be able to show you what the evidence is behind this, marry that with what you've heard about the polls, the younger voters are tending more to the left. Older voters are holding the line when it comes to changing the government and voting to the right, being more conservative. There's also a skis in between male
and female here. But to give you an idea of either who has the win behind them or who has the demographic resistance, I wanted to show you this. This is the overall number of Australian voters eighteen million of them, and it is pretty even between men and women. But when every vote counts, fifty one forty nine means there is a many thousand vote lean in terms of female voters across the country rather than male in terms of age.
If we can bring this up as well, where again that line between older voters and younger voters, you will see that there are more younger voters. When you also have a look at the Labor Party and the seats that it is defending. So therefore it's ten most marginal seats. When you turn around and have a look at the ten most marginal seats the Labor Party is trying to defend.
Again, let me show you.
Here why the Coalition thinks that they are a chance of winning them. Because the Labor Party seats by age they split down this way. If we can get to that graphic, guys, which is in the ALP marginal seats under fifty is a lower number than over fifty. That's why the Coalition believes in the ten seats that they need to win, they are in a better shot of winning those seats. Also, when it comes to gender, the reason the Labor Party thinks they might be able to
hold some of these seats. Is because there is a bigger picture when it comes to the number of female voters in terms of the Liberal Party and the seats that it needs to hold on to to make sure that it can build from where they were after the
last election. When it comes to the age bracket, it is very close at fifty two forty eight, but that's good because it means older voters in the seats they need to hold on to more likely to be able to hold on to those And in terms of gender, again, the breakdown here though means they might be a little more up for grabs in places that have a teal involved in them. I know that's a lot of information,
but I wanted to show you that. Yep, fifty to fifty, but there are fifty one forty nine fifty two forty eight. And in a scenario where the Liberal Party needs to defend a seat, but the demographic that is turning more towards Labor, Teals and Greens, they've being female voters is out numbering male voters.
And I get it.
Not all groups one way, and yes, of course there's a multiplicity of different views and all sexes don't vote. I get all of that, but as a basic understanding, I had to look at the actual number of people in this election, and basically the picture is that Labor is in a scenario where because of older voters they could lose seats, but the Liberal Parties in a position where they could lose seats because there are more female voters in the ten seats that they are defending. At least,
that's the home work I had for you tonight. Trumpeter Patriots, let's talk about them and the preference business, because there's
a little story here now. As I told you in great chapter and verse a couple of nights ago, basically, by putting every sitting MP last, there will be more sitting Liberal MPs in marginal seats that will not be the recipients of Trumpeter Patriots preferences, which means it will be easier for the Labor Party to take those seats than the small number of Labor Party seats where the
sitting MP will be preferenced last. And I also pointed out that in a bizarre decision in the seat of Bradfield, one of the seats that again more female voters than male voters that the Trumpeter patriots. When we pointed this out on Sunday night to you had the Teal, the Teal as the place where their preferences were going well. In response to this reporting, Clyde Palmer said that their website had been hacked, that these were not actually their preferences.
It's become apparent that the number of how to vote cards have been interfered with. This incident has not happened in isolation. We've been hacked, which is clearly not acceptable and had our communications interviewed with on previous occasions. Again, who're as doing that wrong? And it should be referred to the police. So they have updated many of the hat of votes in many of the seats, but in the seat of Bradfield guests who gets preferences before the
Liberal it's still the Teal. So no, they've gone from number two to number six, but the Liberal is dead last at number eight. So despite the fact that they had been hacked, despite the fact that they have now changed their preferences, they're still giving preferences in the seat of Bradfield one. The Libs are desperate to hold on to one of the Teals think they could win to this teal candidate over the.
Liberal how do I let my friends know that community independence aren't a party?
Well, we know how to party. I think that's probably worth nice.
I think that, yeah, it's a really good question. There's a lot of misard situation out there about that, and I think that I think it's really hard right because I just don't think that people understand what we're doing here.
Your preferences matter, whether websites are hacked or not. If you want to vote outside the major parties when it comes to one, good luck to you.
That's you're right.
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Ninth of April.
In the man Cave right now, it's the carryover champ as always in political debates. The wonderful Brown and Bishop love you to see you. My friend Stephen conroyd ges you get close most of the weeks, but we'll see what happens whether he gets there again.
But of course.
Well, he's sitting pretty because he can see what the bookies are telling us right now about the upcoming election. He's already got labor what eighty six seats ninety five by the next two days.
It's all done. It's all there, all right. Now. I want to ask you both, let's get.
To campaign questions rather than necessarily sort of news of the day stuff, because I want to use your big brains and I want to use your insights about some of the issues here, including from Is there a sleeper issue in this campaign? One of those things that people will bring up, but they're not going to tell a polster something that they care about, but we're not seeing
on the nightly news. Certainly, the Liberals would say to be things like crime, because particularly they've focused a lot of policies on those areas, and we've seen some people are willing to tell that to the media, but traditionally it's not something that turns up at those press conferences.
Is there a sleeper issue at this election?
Yes, I think so, and it's superannuation. I think there's a genuine unease about superannuation, with big funds being found to be not paying up when they're supposed to be paying up the threat that the labor government wants to use their money for their investments. Will their money be there when they retire? And this is a big question for millennials because they're going to be putting in for a long time to come and that thirty percent tax over the three million dollars, which is not index will
get them. So I think there's also a feeling about the discussion is just starting to come through, that discussion about the Labor Party entertaining the idea that the super fund should be able to set a pension. You'll take and i'll take away choice, so you can't have a lump sum anymore, which a lot of people use to pay off their mortgage because they've got them longer and longer.
I think superannuation and people's worry that the government seems to regard that money their money, whereas it's four gone wages.
Good point, Steven, What do you think again for you as a sleep issue? Again, maybe something that you hear amongst the mates but you don't see on the front page.
Yeah.
Look, I think problem has made a good point about the superannuation. The point she's missed is probably The thing that continues to the devil Peter Dutton is that Trump has trashed everybody's superannuation. People are regularly in the newspapers saying I'm fifty thousand dollars worse off because of Donald Trump's policies that he's been pursuing. I mean, the great irony of this campaign is for those who are Donald Trump plans, they're watching Donald Trump.
Destroy their boy, Peter Dutton in this election.
So I think the sleeper issue is the impact of American actually probably the first time in my memory where an American politician has so dominated the discourse underneath the actual policy issues. I mean, whether it's defense today, whether it's attacking our PBS system, whether it's threatening attacks on our cultural protections. There's just this strata of issues that Donald Trump is impacting on in this election.
Interesting here where that conversation and in and around the Trump of things, we've debated many of those things. And again interesting to hear you both, and good on you both and not firing up at each.
Other when you were making your points here. I like it. It's a sleeper issue.
It's worth going through now everyone who is a partisan, everyone who pays attention gets really frustrated during elections because there's a lie that won't die. There'll be a lie that's been said by one side for a long time, or it's one that may be being particularly weaponized. And we saw so the medi scare nonsense a couple of years ago, the medi care.
Nonsense that's happening now.
But I want to ask you both as veterans who've seen it all right, and I'll start with you first, Stephen, why are the lies winning at this election? I mean, put simply, you know I'm going to I could go on a whole screen about the Prime Minister in Medicare, but it does feel like that BS is floating to the top a lot.
Easier than it did in previous elections.
Yeah.
Look, I mean health has always been a lay of strength. It hasn't always won us elections, but it's a core value. And Dunton, unfortunately for him, has some history in this portfolio.
But the one that continues.
To make me shake my head is the issue around the costing of the nuclear reactors and labor is getting away with using I think the Climate Council's figure of up to six hundred million dollars worth of costs, and Peter Dutton has the best of my knowledge, refused to engage in that debate.
There is no costume. The only person I've seen right about it.
Is still Cory in a recent Financial Review where he quoted a number. But isn't Peter Dunton putting to bed the six hundred million dollar number.
I'm just flabbergasted he's allowed this.
To run and hurt him as much as it has because once you say once, he won't combat that. The baby says, well, what are your cups? What are your cups? What are your cups? How are you paying for this? And that just becomes an ongoing cycle. So he's had the chance to put this to bed and just continues to avoid the subject.
I just don't understand it.
Yeah, he did take it on in the debate, yes, and effectively. And this smart ten.
Days to go? Wrong with ten days to go? Why did it take this long?
Well, there has been abutted before, but it just is repeated by the media that back the Labor government. That's the unfortunate part. But there were so many lives Steve, and it is it is just it strikes me that the election is a fakeerly. I mean right down to even Clive Palmer with his hacking and being a Conservative and then preferencings against Conservatives. The Prime Minister coming out today and saying, oh, I don't know who's number two on my ticket. I didn't know I was prefacing a
Green who's from the anti Semitic party. What rubbish. The first thing you do when you're a candidate is look where you are on the ballad paper. You know particularly well where it is. And this coming out and professing to be the Great Catholic when he wouldn't even swear on the Bible to get sworn in his Prime Minister, it's there are just so many things. But back to
that question of this. I call them the smarty pants Energy Council because they're just a lobby group and that information has been out there, but it has been repeated, the six hundred million dollars again and again in the media, no matter how anybody refutes it. So there is so much much about it where lives have just been allowed to come through and dominate the election.
But also, isn't it a thing where and both of you, okay, when you're being verbal by your political opponent. You know how to fight back, right, but organizationally, there doesn't seem to be the fight back right. And the joy of this and much of its technologies and the ability to get the message out is that it doesn't cost a dollar for you to be able to make something and to put it out. Yes, it cost you a dollar
to take it outside of your own sphere. But again, is this a fault of the liberals where you know they've let the Prime Minister go on for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks about Medicare and it's good A median people saw in that debate the pushback A median people the week before had seen the failure to explain on power crisis. That's not insignificant. Maybe it's just my algorithm, but I just don't see it, do you.
Well, I would like to see a cut through message says we'll keep on the lights, well, reduce fuel costs, and there'll be no capital gains tax on the family home, because all those things are what really mattered to people. And if this government gets back then in its own right or with the Greens, the future of people's assets are seriously at risk.
Well, but also I mean, you know, you must be surprised Stephen, that you know when one of the sort of multifaceted ways that this election is being run and for all of the sort of Trump talk. The one who's flooding the zone by debating the budget ten years ago and this thing fourteen years ago and this thing twenty five years from now is your bloke in all of this. Right, But that said, see the knowing smile. The transcript will never be that he agreed right now.
He knows how to play the game right. But again, your capacity, the capacity to fight back. It is surprising to me how the pushback is not where I think it should be.
Yeah, look, I agree with you, Paul.
It's that pushback that is all lack of pushback that has really caused me to shake my head. And let me give you an example that I lived through it. If you remember I said the NBM was going to cost forty three billion dollars to build. Malcolm Turnbull, after he became the Shadow Communications Minister, leaked a story to
the Daily Telegraph. The entire front page of the Daily Telegraph was labors planned to cost ninety three billion dollars and now I spent week after week arguing about it, picking through the various assumptions, and one of terbal staffs, at one of the times you bump into each other, just said, we love the fact we're spending so much time fighting this number. It took us half an hour to literally add up these five numbers based on these five assumptions.
And just added them all up collective.
I came up with billion dollars, and yet you're spending all your time arguing about it. So even when you push back, a number can be completely created in the public's mind that has no basis in truth and fact at all.
So I lived through one of those circumstances.
All you can do is keep arguing, keep making the points, but sometimes you're not always able to her. But to the point you're making, I don't see Dutton. I don't see Shad O'Brien. I mean the team around Dutton is soft, it's underprepared, it's not up to the being a government. There's some good players, but it's not a premiership hstate.
And when you're talking about ministers underprepared, even you can't support Bowen. I mean he is an absolute disaster, abosolute disaster, and he was done like a dinner in that debate when he that's.
Your perspective, I don't agree with any of that, though, is very very well prepared.
You might not agree with him.
I not like the direction he's going, but you can't say he is not prepared for the argument.
He makes it up. It just makes it up. Well, yeah, and as I said, this is a fake election. Everything's made up.
Well, okay, so let's get to the early vote. Channel Line says that it's a million. We have to wait, obviously, twenty four hours to see what the previous twenty four hours were. The numbers out of day one was over
five hundred thousand. The expectation something similar today. And this is something that we all know people vote early, but I sort of, you know, you could smell in the wind there were people who are going to make the most of these three days in between public holidays, if they had time, they're going to go off and vote. This also the underlines the point that I've been talking about in terms of political tactics, right, and again, I
haven't played the game. I've only watched it all right, and I know that that automatically means some will disqualify.
But I watched it.
Okay, right, count those grains of sand, all right, But it does seem to me that this is why Albanize in the people around him, who basically have been running an election campen since January versus the let's wait till it's officially called, have been slightly in a better position to this moment.
Right.
Obviously, votes have started to come in, and of course another long weekend, and then of course we are into that final week.
Reminder, Peter duddn'.
Here in the man Cave, ask him anything from anywhere in the country. Send the email pub tested sky one News dot com dot I only got a couple of days to put this together. That's why I'm plug plug plug tonight. But what does the early vote mean to you, Bromman?
Well, Traditionally, an early vote, when people are queuing up to vote, means they've made up their mind and they want to change. That's normally what it means. But you've got a factor in this time, this long holiday period, and people are all right, Easter's past, but they're now going into the ANZAC day long weekend and they say, or we'll go and vote now. So there's an unknown quantity in there about what it's actually saying. So I just think that there needs to be a whole rethink
about this early voting period. When I used to sit on the committee that used to examine the past election and look at it, there was a definite mindset by the AEC to move away from the concept of polling day to a polling period. Yes, and the longer it was, the better they liked it. Whether it made it easier for them, I don't know, but this was certainly something that was being pushed by the AEC itself.
And to me, look, it makes sense in countries like Indonesia where it's hundreds of millions of people in multiple islands. It makes sense in India where it's a billion people and there's an awful lot of area to cover. It doesn't quite make sense here in Australia. But I advocate, if you've got a view, go and vote tomorrow and in my view, change the government.
Stephen, what does the early vote say to you?
Of the same vintage of Roman almost and if people are queed up at eight o'clock in the morning on the Saturday, it usually means a turning up early because they want to vote. The chance so I absolutely agree from experience over twenty thirty years been Roman and myself that's what it's meant. However, the change in the.
Criteria which allows people to vote.
Has allowed people freedom, and I think people are voting with their feet, and it'd be a stupid politician says no, we're only going to let your vote in exceptional circumstances and on the Saturday. I think people have grown comfortable with it. The people who are uncomfortable with it politicians and frankly the media, because all of the focus can't be in those last three weeks where you can pull some rabbit out of the hat and make some story
up that runs for four days. If you wait that long to release your policies or your dirty tricks, then they won't have an impact. So you've got to be more organized and more focused for the months before. How those credity came out from the Christmas break absolutely on fire.
He released policies around health, policies that you know with strong labor values, and so he came out from January, as you said, whereas Peter Dutton, whether it was a strategic brilliance or as it appears on the current polling to show a dud strategy has left too much to be announced. I mean, I think they're on their jump tax deduction up. I can't even keep track of them and ill it every day. Sorry, I've got to shut up.
No, no, I appreciate it. Thank you because Meg and Kelly standing by and she will wait for no one quite correctly.
Thank you very much. Guys, appreciate it plenty more. Next week in the final week of the campaign. Megan Kelly.
Next, it's our favorite time of the week because we talked about favorite person in the world, Megan Kelly.
Goody Mite, I'm so good? How are you?
Very good?
Couldn't be better? All right now, I want to get to some serious stuff in the second, but can we just take a moment to celebrate the awesomeness of you now. I love when you do like a little sketch on your program, wildly popular in America, very popular here in Australia, podcast YouTube, and you did your own little version of a Megan Markel Netflix show.
It was so fun to say, you know what.
We basically leaned into how inane that show is, with captions like how to put pretzels in a bag, how to make microwave popcorn. Everyone already knows how to do all those things. Thanks a lot, Duchess. And I've never been so happy as channeling my inner Meghan Markle. The whole skit was hilarious because I did it with Maureen Callahan, who's a columnist for the Daily Mail, and she comes on our show.
And she was like playing the friend.
Megan Markle has one of these fake friends come on to every episode, and the common dynamic underlying each scene is definitely that the friends are terrified of her and definitely don't know her at all, and she has got this underlying latent hostility toward them, like if they eat her food before it's time, or screw up a line, or call her Megan Markle instead of Sussex.
And so just both of.
Us burning on those dynamics, my latent hostility and her fear of me, I think made it work and we're still laughing now.
In Australia we use the term taking the mickey. That's the polite version.
There is a dirty bar conversation version, but let's keep doing that because we didn't get a chance to talk last week. Can you please please just give me a little taste of your thoughts of those idiot celebrities who flew up on Jeff Bezos's.
Man sized rocket to space.
I love everything about it.
I love the fact that they all decided to be part of Jeff Bezos's phallic fantasy to get in his penis shape rocket. Their little spaceship is shaped exactly like a breast with a big nipple at the top, and blast out into quote space, which really is just the same distance into the sky that we all go. I mean, honestly, they did not go up much further than everybody goes when they fly on Delta, And it would have been
fine if they had done it. We would have mocked their obsession with their little outfits and Lauren Sanchez with the breasts huge and pumped out even in space.
We would have mocked it a little.
I'm not gonna lie, but they wouldn't have taken serious blowback like they did from both sides if they had just done this, if they had gotten off of the thing and come back down and said that was amazing, very cool.
What they're doing is cool. Hats off to the.
Astronauts who like really do this and put their lives on the line.
Newfound respect and now humbled, I.
Will retreat into my little world of being a singer or a news anchor. No, no, what we got was lectures in how brave they are, how proud I am of me, which is what Gail King said, and how proud we all needed to be of them. How nothing that happened on board that spacecraft, which is what they wanted us to call it over and over like it
was an Apollo mission craft, was frivolous. Nothing around this space flight, this space journey, that's how they wanted to be referred to, not a flight, was frivolous.
Me.
While they invited the Kardashians, okay.
They literally they could invite anybody in the world to watch them, and they invited Oprah and the Kardashians.
But then they don't understand why we didn't take it seriously.
Then you have them kissing the ground when they got off of it, honestly, like they had just been saved from the Titanic and got back on landa hoy ladies.
No, they were kissing the ground. They were up there for three minutes.
Speaking of Jeff Bezos's sexual fantasy, three minutes, I tell you, Paul and got.
Down, like you know, they thought they'd never see us again. Then you have those.
Two morons who are doing the commentary at Mission control, one of whom is former Fox slash CNN, one of whom is ESPN, sitting there talking about this again like it's Apollo thirteen, like they're in real danger.
They could get stuck up there.
And as they as they land, they say, oh, all their training comes down to this.
They're training. What are you saying?
Lauren Sanchez can't string two sentences together. She's only known for showing her breasts to people. Gail King can't. We don't know how strong smart she is. All we know is that she friends with Oprah. That's how she's gotten
every gig she's ever gotten. And then you got Katie Perry, who spent her big moment spending more time looking inside the camera than outside the craft, because she was too obsessed with showing us the little thing she'd brought to space and making sure she was seen on camera with her do I little look. And so these two morons playing along, who clearly had been hired by Blue Origin to make it sound as big as they could, are actually talking about their intense training and.
Speaking of taking the proverbial, can we talk about Larry David, now a genius who made one of the best TV shows of all time, in fact, may two of the best tav shows of all time in Seinfeld and Kirby Your Enthusiasm. But he's gone a little too far writing a satirical piece for The New York Times which is all about bashing up Bill Maher, the American Canadian and commentator for having dinner with Donald Trump.
You know, there's a rule usually applies in journalism, and it definitely applies amongst most Jewish people I know and those of us who consider ourselves their friends. You don't mess with Hitler. It's kind of a thing. Even if something is kind of Nazish or Holocausty, you know, like the what they're doing to the Wigers over there in China. It can make a pretty good case. It's a little Holocaust.
You generally don't use that. You just the Holocaust was the Holocaust, and we generally don't touch it, and we generally don't like, sincerely, compare people to Aidolf Hitler.
Right, of course they did it to Trump.
And now Larry David wants to say, ha ha ha, isn't it funny? He had he had dinner with Hitler. Look what he did, Bill Maher, I mean, it's so absurd, and Larry David at some level is too smart not to know that it's absurd.
But he can't see through the TDS.
Paul. It's a serious affliction. It's like the clap, you know. It gets all over your body and it affects your vision and your brain and your skin, and very hard to come out from under it without several doses of penicillin. And Larry David cannot get out from under his TDS.
Look, Megan, I was going to talk about the deconstruction of the administrative stide.
I was going to talk about the dape stidle.
I was going to talk about the Supreme Code, pushing back on Trump. I was even going to talk about Trump tonight, talking about reducing the tariffs on China.
But guess what, let's just keep this a fun one.
We'll see you next week, all right, see your Paul, she's the best.
All right, Ask me anything, Peter Dunnon Tuesday night here. Send me to email pup tested skynews dot com, dot you hey, and include your telephone numbers. So we can get in contact with you. We might send a camera, we might read it out, we might chat to you. Buy a Zoom that's on Tuesday.