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Paul Murray Live | 21 November

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Labor finally reveals its social media bill. Plus, the government won't be receiving the miracle rate cut it's hoping for, and treaty negotiations kick off in Victoria. 

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Speaker 1

From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Hello, Happy Thursday.

Speaker 2

Make gift to you tonight for the whole hour, No sooks, no leftons, The jewel in the crown. Megan Kelly. Now, we took the Megan each and every week in the United States and it is always a whole lot of our week. She is fun, she's feisty, she fires up. Well, I can tell you what tonight I think we have our best conversation ever, including her trying to wrap her head around a term that maybe only Bogan Nassies used

but we've used for a while. Hexeth is on his third marriage and clearly was a pants man in between each of those times.

Speaker 3

Did you say he was a pants man?

Speaker 1

He's a pants man? What do I mean?

Speaker 2

Well, it's a pants man who means often he enjoys not wearing them. The only place that his pants look better on the floor. Mad ruder is what we say in Australia. So ironically, even though you don't need pants for the activity, you are referred to as a pantsman. If you were a person who has been with many dare I.

Speaker 3

Say this is thrilling.

Speaker 4

I learned something new about your beautiful culture every time I come on.

Speaker 2

Then you can look forward to this moment, which of course looks even better in h day and I have you got the biggest house at biggest tilly in your house. But there's a reason why this takes place. I'm telling you, she's in.

Speaker 1

A great mood.

Speaker 2

I'm in a great mood, and this is a fantastic conversation we're among other things, she absolutely rips in to some of the people in the media. She can't stand.

Speaker 3

I can't stand it.

Speaker 4

And it wasn't just Hitler and fascist, it was also eight years of racist, sexist, rapist. That's what he was being called all over their show and MSNBC, and.

Speaker 3

It's all just forgotten. It's nothing. He's not a rapist, he's not Hitler. And Trump allowed it, right.

Speaker 4

Trump likes attention, he wants them talking about him, he wants them saying nice things about him.

Speaker 3

Doesn't need them.

Speaker 2

Megan Kelly will be the highlight of your week in a Nosok's no lefty Thursday. Looking forward to it. All Right, let's get into what we need to talk about tonight. As always, we start with the immediate, and there are some concerns right now around Queensland, where there's been a huge amount of rain that's fallen in parts of the state. There's worry in the next couple of days that it's going to start to move its way even further north. About two hundred mills has fallen in the past twenty

four hours. Police telling everyone to take it easy.

Speaker 5

What we're seeing already at this time of year is that a lot of the ground is sodden already. This time last year we were still dealing with a lot of fires. We've very quickly moved into flood conditions this year.

Speaker 2

Unfortunately, what we see every year.

Speaker 5

Is deaths on our roads as a consequence of people driving into flood waters.

Speaker 2

And as I always strength and love to everyone who's dealing with this. We are very confident that we can handle the volume of water that is coming down Bradley's Gully as we speak, and everyone to stay calm.

Speaker 1

We need everyone to look after each other.

Speaker 2

Good on you guys, stay in touch with each other, pay attention to the messages that you're hearing from local emergency services, and yeah, all the best for what might be another wild weekend here in the greatest country of them or. But first, let's talk about again what's happening in canber right now now, still waiting for a final vote on the censoring of the Internet. This is about the government to shutting down your capacity to post what

you want to on your social media feeds. Oh, they say it's all about myths and disinformation, but you know the reality of what they're trying to shut off here. Now the Center will vote on that to no plan today. They come back next week. Presumably this thing will get killed off next week, or if they're stupid enough, they will keep the door open. And an active part of the campaign leading into the next federal election will be that the Labor Party and the Greens want to sense

of the Internet and everyone else doesn't. That'll be a major issue. It's up to Labor whether they kill it off or whether they bring it to the heart of our election, which will be a very bad news story for them. But today the Prime Minister trying to distract from what is going to be this inevitable defeat of his attempt to censor adults on the Internet, and we're turning towards trying to keep kids away from social media. Now,

I've said for years that social media is poison. It is poisoned for way too many adults and that poison should not be extended to children. Apart from what they see, the capacity for bullies to message you in the middle of the night, for people to gang up on you in a digital way means that the problems that you and I felt when we went to school will they extend home and it means there's a twenty four to

seven cycle of among other things, that is bullying. Now today the federal government introduced its laws to ban people under the age of sixteen being able to have accounts on all of the obvious social media sites. He's the Prime Minister saying why it's good. As a government, we have a responsibility to keep our young Australian safe. We know that social media is causing social harm. There was also some confusion about whether people under the age of

sixteen will be able to access YouTube. They will because YouTube is not going to be included in this. Now it wasn't just about access to YouTube, it was about

whether your kid can have a YouTube account. To be honest, I have no idea why anyone under the age of sixteen their parents would allow them to have it, but that is not going to be affected by the ban Elon Musk taking time out from slashing things in the American budget, launching rockets, creating electric cars that lefties are now oh so happy that they drive around the cities. He responded to the Prime Minister today that it seems like a back way, a backdoor way to control access

to the Internet by all Australians. So obviously he doesn't want this thing to take place now. Regardless of when you think this is a great idea, maybe idea or a bad idea, process matters when we are talking about something as big and as serious, with all of its potential intent and unintended consequences. The way that generally the process works is because the government doesn't have a majority

in the Senate. Now they generally do once they get the Greens and the Lefties on the crossbench, but they don't have the outright numbers, which means that any piece of legislation as controversial as this is normally sent off to a committee. Now, I want you to have a listen to Channel nine and how they're going to explain

how the next part of this process works. Put simply, the government would like sooner rather than later to pass this legislation before Parliament ends next week, because there's every

chance Parliament won't come back at all. A perfect example, and Bromba Bishop mentioned this last night about why the government might tell us they want to have a budget and tell us they want to have an election in May, is that politicians who aren't going to be coming back after the next election, people like Bill Shorten, are giving their farewell speeches now. Now he's supposed to be doing

that in February. Parliament could be back in February, unless, of course, as a plan for no Parliament to come back in February, which is why he gave his farewell address today even though next week parliament still continues. But have a listen to the review process. Now, think about how big this is. This is about limiting kids' access to social media and as Elon Musk suggests, the potential

complicating factors around all of it. Does this sound like a government who cares at all what anyone else thinks about these laws.

Speaker 6

In an attempt to pass the laws before the end of next week, the bill has been referred to a quick five day committee for scrutiny, but with only twenty four hours given for submissions. Tech companies are concerned the laws are being rushed without proper consultation.

Speaker 2

This is pretty well right. So what you're seeing there is that tomorrow is the twenty four hour period that if anyone wants to respond from Elon Musk to you or me to have our say on this space of legislation, you've got to do it by tomorrow. Now, anyone who knows how to act with government or put a submission for government. It's not just like bagging out an email. Slightly more complicated the idea that they've issued a very narrow window and then just five days to have a

look at the legislation. Again big tell that the government wants this done by the end of next week, because most likely you can start to be big that Parliament is not coming back no budget, which means we may well be looking at a prime minister. And obviously I could well be proven wrong, but he could come as early as Australia Day and fire a starter's gune on an election into February or maybe into March. Any later than that then obviously Parliament would have to come back.

But all the little signs are showing us that it's an election sooner rather than later. But there's one thing I wanted to say about kids and their access to

the Internet. Now I've shown you before that there are great documentaries that you should be watching with your tween and teen kids about the reality of social media, about how all of these companies actually work, about how it's a sort of digital version of a casino with artificial light, lots of stimulus, and the search for the stimulus is what makes you keep coming back, right. But as parents and grandparents, we play a role here. There is no twelve year old in Australia who can buy a phone

because they don't have any money. They don't have a job, which means they can't have the money to sign up and get a mobile phone. It is us, the parents, the family members, or the grandparents who are in charge of when they get access to their devices. Now, I am not going to pretend that I'm a person who has only had my kids play with wooden toys and

read intellectually approved books. My kids love mucking around on YouTube and they will often sit with me and will giggle at some of the other stuff that's on the internet. But they do not have access to these devices without our knowledge. Please, if the parents of Australia could start to unite and in all of those Facebook and WhatsApp groups that exist from kindergarten all the way through the year twelve. Before the kid can afford to buy a phone,

let's decide the types of phones they can buy now. Obviously, smartphones are things like your Samsung Galaxies or your iPhone twenty eighteen or whatever it is right now. The other option is to think god a dumb phone, which is a telephone, which is a telephone only it does not have access to the Internet, It may or may not hopefully not have a camera, and you cannot access apps.

Speaker 1

If for whatever reason.

Speaker 2

You think it's time for your kid or grandkid, niece, nephew or friend have a phone for goodness sake, make it a dumb one, because ultimately they can text you,

You can text them, they can text their friends. But in the middle of the night the apps are not going ding ding ding and monitoring them and trapping them into a world that in part is creating a scenario that, as I told you last night, kids as young as eight now are showing serious signs of mental illness that in part is being filled by the garbage that they are being fed on the internet, and part of how they're being fed on it is by what their parents

are letting them do. Now, I get it. There are certain age groups that will go off and find their own ways and smarter with technology than their parents and potentially their grandparents. But the device they have is up to you. In the same way you decide what you feed your kid for dinner, you can decide what devices they have in their pocket or you have in your home. Don't expect the government to do everything on this now.

When it comes to Australia's economy, there are two songs that give the best indication to the attitude of this federal government. The first everything and the other one is a country music song that I can't get out of my head. I love that song. Oh, such a good song. I'm getting deep into the country music now. Love Love, Love, Love Love because Stapleton. Anyway, I'm distracting. But in terms of the reality of the Australian economy, anyone who's trying to pay off a house right now is in a

world of pain. Anyone who's trying to pay off an investment property right now is in a world of pain. That's two thirds of the people in the Australian housing market. We learn today one point six million Australian households are currently facing mortgage stress. This is different than the number I also gave you this week of three medium people who are at the risk of homelessness, mainly because they're

starting to get squeezed out of the rental market. But of course, when it comes to interest rates, the only thing that matters is not you or I or anyone else who's trying to make it by no. Of course, in terms of the Canberra bubble, they only care about the future of the Prime Minister, and they're already putting a lot of pressure on the Reserve Bank, not so they can make things easier for those of us trying to pay something off. But no, Alban Eazy needs interest

rates to fall. If they don't, his reelection chances certainly will oh heaven forlfend interest rates in the Prime Minister's chances and an election please. The early expectation was that if we weren't going to get anything this year, we would get it early next year. Just a couple of months ago, many of the banks were starting to say as early as February and again with an election now

certainly before May. May of the latest Prime Minister says May, but if no one's coming back into Parliament it'll be earlier than May. Then February would be okay. However, those expectations now need to change. Today Westpac joined in with other financial institutions to say you can forget about February, you can forget about March, and and forget about April. May is when there may be a reduction in interest rates.

According to the finn Westpac's become the second big bank to push its forecast for the Reserve banks Australia's first cash rate to May from February. As more economists and investors investors dump expectations for pre election mortgage relief, inflation lingering, and remember inflation is quite artificial at the moment because power prices are part of inflation. But this government is falsely trying to make it seem like those things are

lower than they actually are. And issues when it comes to the job market, you can see that May twenty is what the NAB City, UBS, Capital Economics, RBC Capital Markets and now Westpac think is when this relief is going to happen. Now, I have long argued that it doesn't matter when an interest rate cut happens. The true pain of twelve interest rate rises under the leadership of Anthony Obernezi and Jim Chalmers is pressure that does not

feel awfully relieved. If we go from position number twelve to position number eleven, or even position number ten, you are still ten movements higher than you were when this mob came to power. Now, remember the total amount of money that is currently being paid back on homes that have a mortgage, either the ones that people are living

in or the ones that they have as an investment property. Well, the total amount of money that people have had defined since this government came to power and twelve interest rate rises is billions of dollars. A little different than the promise that's still on the Prime Minister's Twitter feed that a labor government would lower the cost of living. That was his promises opposition leader. But every single thing has become more expensive while he's been in there, and in

my view as a result of him being there. To give you an idea of just how much we've had to find cancer analysis of the Reserve Bank data shows that borrowers were charged fourteen and a half billion dollars on mortgage repayments in June of this year. Rates have stayed the same since, compared to nine billion dollars in March of twenty twenty one. Put simply, anyone paying off a mortgage has had to find collectively five point five billion dollars, or sixty one percent more than they were

paying when this bloke became the Prime minister. The Candra press gallery may think that everything is awesome, everything is fine, and it ain't my fault if we go from twelve interra straight rises back to the eleven position or the ten position. I say people's financial pressure is right being a purple right now, and that's why I don't think there's going to be the political relief. Another bit of

evidence to putting on the table as well. Remember the bricks of our argument each and every night, data facts, that's what we put before you. The mortar is the opinion. There's lots of it, and that's what builds our wall against this nonsense each and every night. In the Australian newspaper today, one of their opinion people was writing that the latest JWS True Issues survey has found that Australians

feel as if they are falling behind. Every three percent of people say they are worse off than they were two years ago. Repeat, forty three percent say they are worse off than they were two years ago. Nineteen percent say that they work better off. What was that Prime minister's promise that a labor government would make things better when it came to cost of living reality, Forty three percent of people say it's worse since they took over.

And that's not just the people that are trying to pay off a house, which is why Peter Dutton laserlike is not distracted, but the hate campaign which is going to come and the fear campaign that's going to come from the government in question time today he hit them right between the eyes and good on him for doing.

Speaker 7

The Future Fund was set up by the Howard government in two thousand and six to strengthen Australia's long term financial position. For nearly twenty years, governments of both sides have respected the independence of the Fund by not meddling with its investment mandate. Having blown the bank and fueled inflation with its reckless spending, Labor is now raiding the

nation's nest egg to cover its economic failures. As to WHI are Australians paying for the Albanesi government's economic incompetence?

Speaker 2

Now what's he talking about there? When it comes to the Future Fund. Others may have explained it certainly better than I can, but let me give it a crack. In Canberra, there's obviously the politicians, and then there's all of the public servants that exist in and around the federal government. Yes, from the front line of the army all the way through to the back rooms of the tax department. In fact, has this one in five people

employed in Australia work for a government. Now obviously that's state, federal and local. But when we are talking here about federal government people, they all of course have superannuation. They have superannuation that is at a higher rate than many of us in the private sector, and obviously their moneys are also on top of their salary. So there's a very significant amount of money that the federal government at any one time has to have access to for the

superannuation of the public servants. Now remember that the Future Fund is in part for that reason, but also they're able to have their own union superannuation and the rest of it here, but that basically is one of the purposes of the Future Fund. Its point is to invest in whatever it wants in order to produce the best possible return, to have the biggest amount of money that the government has to cover its liabilities with a public

service that is exponentially growing. One in five Australians work for the government. This is not a good number for Australia. It is not a good number for our future. And it speaks to a political theory of the case that I've had for some time. We saw this with a Daniel Andrews or a Palichet and Miles, which is that

they believe that permanent power comes for them. If you work for the government, if you're dependent on the government, or if you're a business your biggest client is the government. That would patch up sixty maybe sixty five even seventy percent of people, meaning that everyone who is outside of those groups, even if they all voted in the opposite direction,

it wouldn't matter because the public servants. Hence why the political conversation about cut cut, cut, cut cut, it's all aimed at those people, and those people are not in certain areas. They're found out all the way across the country is that the business is connected to the government

that no one wants to rock the boat. Hence why you get Victoria which doesn't move at all, or you need sticks and sticks and sticks of jellig nite over four years to be able to dislodge labor like Crucifooley was able to successfully do with Miles and Palachet in Queensland. But today we learn that the Treasurer is going to tell the people who run this fund what they should start to invest in. Not because it provides the best possible financial return for the reasons the fund exists. No,

it's to help him prop up. I want to increase the amount of things like renewable energy construction. Now, remember, if the purpose of the fund is essentially just a giant extra bit of money for the federal government to yank ad that would be okay. But it's not. It's meant to be something completely separate that is not going to be involved in investing in things that the federal government then gets to turn around and cut ribbons on

to make themselves look better as politicians. Petti Costello, who established the Future Fund, he said this in part today that this is a particularly bad decision, and he says that it is not so small modernization. He said in a statement, In fact, there's nothing modern about all of this at all. This belongs to a very old tradition in politics, interfering with market investment for political purposes. The Shadow Treasurer also says this is a bad idea.

Speaker 8

The government is coming after this money, which is Australian's money, because of their economic failures. It's not clear where they want to go next after this, by the way, and the fact of the matter is if they are prepared to run the Future Fund, they'll be more than prepared to raid Australian's superannuation money, which they've always seen as their money.

Speaker 2

As for Jim Chalmers, this is his defense.

Speaker 9

This is not an especially controversial change that we are proposing. You know, it's not unusual for governments to indicate what are they considered to be their national economic priorities. We haven't interfered with the independence of the Future Fund. We haven't interfered with expectations around rate of return or risk.

Speaker 2

This bloke is really trying to fiddle with the books. He's trying to fiddle with the books to use the money that is not for this purpose, for the purpose of investing in the things that as a politician he would be able to open and cut the ribbons going into an election, which seemingly is earlier than what the Prime Minister was saying earlier this week, which is in and around May. What was that song again? There's no need to play that song, but I did because I

like it's all much. Now, let's talk about something way more serious than that, and there's no dancing of music involved in this. The TRIPLEO system in Victoria is a disgrace. Now. As I've told you before, thirty three people have died and the lead up to the last election because the TRIPLEO system wasn't working. It meant that they couldn't dispatch ambulances. It meant that people ended up dying as a result

of the TRIPLEO system not working. Now, we were told that all of this was going to be fixed, this was all going to be put in place, it was all going to be made okay. A government spokesperson has turned around and has said, in relation to all of this that our budget keeps investing in emergency services. Victorians rely on the funding allocated for this procedure in a new computer aided dispatch system and two million dollars to

support the tripos. They said this was going to be fixed. Well, guess what we learn tonight that the triplo system for a couple of hours yesterday in Melbourne was so out of kilter that they had to write things down and they were posting and passing notes to each other. This is exactly the same situation that we had before the last state election. Well, the story now has repeated itself.

It is truly unbelievable now that Deputy Secretary of Emergency Management of the Department of Justice and Community Safety had to explain what happened here. A parliamentary committee was told that there was an unplanned outage of this system at five point thirty and the computer aided and dispatched system was able to come back two hours later. In the meantime, staff were forced to use pen and paper. A quarter

of the way into the twenty first century. This is how the system is currently being held together by pen and paper. The opposition we couldn't find them in front of a camera today. Why I don't know, but this in part is what they had to say, which was Labour's managed to give the tripo a triple zero, Victoria a new logo, but it hasn't made a start on a modern and reliable dispatch system. Good to see a statement, why the hell aren't you in front of a camera?

This is outrageous. Thirty three people died before the last election, but because Labor got re elected, because they think it doesn't matter. They somehow think you can still have a system this far after the state election that has not been fixed. Computers break down, but the computers cannot break down when we are talking about people who are calling TRIPLEO and we are trying to work out where to send the people the ambulance to the police or the

fieries when they call TRIPLEO. But do you expect anything different The premier who fiddles while Victoria burns perfect example of her priorities, where literally she's just playing games on the internet, not even doing her job. She's literally giving herself a pat on the back while approving houses that are little pictures on printed out pieces of paper.

Speaker 10

We are going to need to get a much big out stamp.

Speaker 2

Oh seriously, now, let's get to our beloved members of the Australian Defense Force. To anyone who's part of the Defense Force or has served our country, thank you for your service, Thank you for what you do for the families who are either left behind or worry because their loved one is involved in defending our country. God love you well. Today we learn that again we've got major culture problems inside. But this is all about the brass, not about the men and women who are on the

front lines. A twenty twenty four workplace Experience Paul has revealed that despite years of efforts to improve defense culture, thirty seven percent of personnel so they have experienced unacceptable behavior in the past twelve months. How many times have they promised to fix this, but thirty seven percent of people say they have experienced things like sexual misconduct and bullying. The survey found just twenty nine percent of the Army thirty two percent of the Navy felt that their senior

leaders were effective. Seriously, that's less than a third who believe that their bosses are up to it thirty four percent. Forty two percent was what the number was a couple of years ago, so it is getting worse, not better. Air Force personnels slightly more satisfied. Thirty seven percent of them approve and have a positive opinion of their commanders. That,

by the way, is down from twenty twenty one. Why is this particularly shocking tonight because remember the Royal Commission into Veterans' Suicide that was around for you ye, that earlier this year had released its final reports, big thick documents into the problems in and around our Defense Force that in part are leading to members of the Australian Defense Force taking their own life. One of the recommendations was recommendation twelve to consider the emotional intelligence and performance

of people who move up into leadership ranks. Remember at the time when this was released, the Prime Minister said that they respected the report and that they would get on and act on its recommendations. Just as our veterans and defense personnel step up for our country, we have an obligation to step up for them. So September towards the end of October, what's best part of six weeks?

Seven weeks ago total number of recommendations that the government has said that they are going to implement from the Veterans' Suicide Royal Commission duck, egg, bugger or none, tumblewheed, It's nothing. I do not understand how a document of this seriousness does not have great urgency. I do not understand why the opposition does not ask a question about this, about how many of the recommendations are you going to put in place? In my opinion, it should be all of them, definitely.

If we've got less than a third of the men and women of our defense force who do not have faith in the people who lead them, and there are recommendations to change how that system works seven weeks after they have been published, and they were as plain as the nose on your face, this government simply thinks that they could tick and flick do the usual thing. Oh we respect our troops, Well, what about a report into the difficulties and the fart is that are leading to

them taking their own lives? Nothing, no urgency whatsoever. But because they want to get a win in and around social media and trying to ban it for kids, that's a twenty four hour process into a five day inquiry into a law being passed, all of that within a week. If they want to do something, they can do something. But the they won't do something, So can I appeal to a lady who I'm sure does not think well of me, but is in a powerful position, Jackie Lamby.

Without her vote, it is harder for the government to pass a single piece of legislation. Jackie, could you pick up the phone. Could you tell the Prime Minister how many of these recommendations are you putting in place? Can you make it public? Make it now? Or you're not voting for anything that they want to do between now and the next election. Now, it's a threat that will probably be empty because there won't be many days of the Senate between now and the next election. But you

are in a position to do something. And I know when it comes to veterans affairs that she is one of the best politicians in the country. You wants to do something now. I have a crack at an uphill Downdale all day every day. But a broken clock can be right twice a day. It is right on this Senator. Please use your power to get this public. Use your power to tell us how many of these recommendations are

they going to put in place? Can you put the pressure on the government and the Prime Minister the next time you see him. What the hell is going on? Why have they not done anything with this report? They are just yet again, letting the men and women of our defense force swing in the breeze metaphorically, I say. Now in the US, as you know, Trump on his

way back to power. But there is a ridiculous suggestion from lefties who cannot get past their hate of all things to do with Orange Man Bad, and they have got a new plan, which is to dangle a potential jail sentence over Donald Trump all the way through the next four years of his presidency. This all comes back to the bloke who ran on the get Trump bandwagon,

who helped fill the dolls and push things. So he was found guilty on thirty four counts of bookkeeping charges in a trial that didn't even ask as a witness the bookkeeper to give evidence, because the assumption was that the bookkeeper would end up speaking on Trump's behalf. But surprise, surprise, a place that votes very dramatic New York City Democrat that the majority of all of the jury conduct with

those thirty four guilty verdicts. Now, the president was supposed to be sentenced before the Republican Convention, it was delayed until after the election, and now Alvin Bragg is trying to put in place a delay on sentencing for another four years. We'll let our difriend Annalise explain this nonsense.

Speaker 11

In a previous filing, the district attorney argued against dismissing the conviction, saying, no current law establishes that a president's temporary immunity from prosecution requires dismissal of a post trial criminal proceeding that was initiated at a time when the defendant was not immune from criminal prosecution, and that is based on official conduct for which the defendant is also

not immune. In response to the delay, Donald Trump's communication director Stephen Chung said in a statement, this is a total and definitive victory for President Trump and the American people who elected him in a landslide. The Manhattan DA has conceded that this witch hunt cannot continue.

Speaker 1

No Sooks, no Lefties, and the best chat we've ever had with Meghan Kelly. What was that song again? I love it? Write them cowboy morn A Secer and put Marie Lard. No sooks, no lefties, and thanks for watching.

Speaker 2

No Sooks, no Lefties, Meghan Kelly in a moment or two's time and speaking your powerful, independent, wonderful women to join us now Christie McSweeney of course, the Principal Council of the pr Council, Christy Abram, who is a libertarian to her heart.

Speaker 1

Both of these ladies are about freedom.

Speaker 12

How I a.

Speaker 3

Great It's great to be here, Good to have you.

Speaker 1

Blackpool, good stuff. I love thee I love her when it's in.

Speaker 2

Still lovely ladies, all right, So let's talk about what's happening in Victoria right now. So there's a treaty negotiation happening between the Victorian government and Indigenous peoples. We've spoken about some of what were the apparent demands, which, among other things, have been your indigenous people don't have to pay counsel rates, Indigenous people can have access to a whole collection of financial issues. But at the very heart of this is, of course, what is the government willing

to negotiate on. And Christy they have said previously, look, anything's up for grabs, everything's on the table, but we don't know what's on the table, and we don't know what is being negotiated. In fact, here is just seem to alan talking about it today.

Speaker 10

Today is an historic day, an historic day for our state, for our strong Victorian community, and it's historic because we're about to embark on treaty negotiations will make our strong state even stronger, even fairer, even more equal for all Victorians.

Speaker 2

Stated by the way, as we know, the TRIPLEO system is currently down to paper and pen But Christy, surely we have to know what is being negotiated here, don't we.

Speaker 1

Well.

Speaker 12

I think the Federal Labor Party demonstrated that they don't want Australians to know, or Australians don't need to know any details in terms of major decisions that the government seeks to enact on their behalf or get them to vote for. So that's been run already and at lost. And of course the next election in Victoria is not coming forward to twenty twenty six November twenty twenty six. We've got a long way to run in terms of these big ideas that don't necessarily have.

Speaker 3

Any details behind them.

Speaker 12

I think that is what politics is these days, with some quarters, of course, I will say this. I read that press release, I've read the Victorian Treaty Authority website, I've listened to the Premier and I've read that transcript. I can't understand anything that she is saying. It is not communicated, let alone not having any details.

Speaker 3

And I will say.

Speaker 12

This, Paul, One in ten Indigenous children in Victoria are likely to be removed from their home, and Indigenous reports tell us that in Victoria and actually around Australia, only six percent of child protection budgets go towards supporting out of home care for kinship and cultural residents for Indigenous children.

Speaker 1

Fix that.

Speaker 12

Fix your budgets before you announce great esoteric ideas that don't make sense and don't help one Indigenous Victorian Kristen.

Speaker 2

Again, I'm trying to go best case scenario on this. Okay, if they wanted to tell us upfront that a percentage of all tax revenue will go for this reason, and you know they're okay, that's the starting point, and we at least understand right what we can argue in and around. But if there's no dayline on this process, what did we do.

Speaker 13

Well?

Speaker 14

I'm not surprised that there's no daylight on this process or any other process that the government gets up.

Speaker 13

To these days.

Speaker 14

But I feel as though we need to take a step back.

Speaker 13

From all of this that's going on.

Speaker 14

You know, we've had the voice and now we have the Victorian government talking.

Speaker 13

About a treaty.

Speaker 14

I was in year six when Kevin Rudd said sorry and he acknowledged the past of Australia and Australia's history. And I remember when the you know, teacher wheeled in the television for us to watch that historic moment. And I remember in year six thinking, how good, you know, for us to acknowledge the past and move forward together as one. That's what it was meant to do. It was meant to bring us all together. Now, that same year six, Kristen used to get really upset when people

used to say where are you from? And I would always turn around and say Australia. I'm Australian because I was proud and I I'm proud to be an Australian. But you know why I got to upset, Paul, It was because people were saying you're different. Every time they said where are you're from? They would be saying to me,

you look different. You don't look like an Australian to me, and what are we doing to society and our Aboriginal you know comrades by saying they're constantly different from us, By going okay, well we need a treaty.

Speaker 13

We need the voice.

Speaker 14

We are all equal together, and you can't unrate history, you can only forge a better future.

Speaker 2

Absolutely correct. Why I love the freedom of a libertarian talking this stuff. All right, let's talk about kids and social media and the laws that are going to be raced through before the end of the year. Kristin, what's your thoughts on it.

Speaker 14

It's a dangerous question, Paul asking a libertarian what I think about a social media bands.

Speaker 13

There's the potential that I'm going to go off on a tangent on this one.

Speaker 14

But again, let's take it back. So the oban Easy government and the Coalition are saying, let's protect the kids. Okay, So is potentially harmful content on social media. When I was in high school and social media had just started to boom, the people that were as sat as it, the most oppressed weren't actually getting bullied on social media. It was because largely they didn't have friends. Now, obviously mental health manifests in different ways and for different.

Speaker 13

Causes, but let's talk about graphic.

Speaker 14

Content that they're trying to protect children from as well. Before social media, you would go, you know, to your parents' draws or whatever, and find a magazine, or you'd go into the news agency and try and find a magazine.

Speaker 13

You were still kids were still.

Speaker 14

Trying to find that content anyway. So having a social media ban on under sixteens takes the choices away from parents.

Speaker 13

And I don't think that the government should be our parent.

Speaker 15

If you, as a parent.

Speaker 14

Want to stop your childs from going on social media, you do that, but don't take away other parents' choices because you're too weak.

Speaker 13

To parent your children.

Speaker 14

I think that's absolutely ridiculous and I don't think that's the Australian way.

Speaker 2

All Right, Me and Kelly in a second, So let's get the winners and losers week, Christy McSweeney. Who stands out for you? What do you want to give a cuddle to or a kick up the backside?

Speaker 12

Oh look, I'm going to say Jim Chalmers, probably the Luther of the wake. I don't think he's Treasury's speech and he's big vision for Australia. This is the second time he's done this. I don't think it landed.

Speaker 2

Paul. Yeah, the remaking of capitalism, of course, is what Tea was promising the first time around. Kristin Abram, for you.

Speaker 14

The loser of the week from me would be the Sydney commuters which are being held hostage by the unions and the labor forcing them into this situation as always. And the winner, I would say is probably Ellen DeGeneres because she's being able to use Trump as an excuse to flee the US.

Speaker 3

Only because she was canceled.

Speaker 12

She's run out and got no more exactly using as an excuse.

Speaker 2

Yeah, what about that is a story. She's going to pull a pin on the United States. Oh, she hates the country that made her so anyway, you get the point. She'll take her Emmy's with her. Of course, thank you, ladies to appreciate it. Speaking of nosooks, no lefties. The ultimate Meghan Kelly. Next, this is the best chat we've ever had. You're going to love it as much as we.

The highlight of our week is when we talk to our favorite person in the world, none of them, the wonderful Meghan Kelly, who's still radiant, still amazing because she's living a brand new world in Trump's America.

Speaker 1

Rockstar. Loving to see you.

Speaker 3

It's great to be here. I'm still riding high.

Speaker 1

Yeah me too.

Speaker 2

Now we sore over the past couple of days that a major decision was made to escalate things in Ukraine, where US missiles can now be used.

Speaker 1

They have been used to fire into Russia.

Speaker 2

Russia turns around and says, well, we now reserve the right to drop a nuke in response. But Joe's missing in the jungle. Kamalas buge it off to Hawaii. The White House has got a gone fishing sign on it, and no one seems to care.

Speaker 4

It's really terrifying, and it's really irresponsible, and I really don't think, you know, like we didn't even want to confirm a Supreme Court justice nominated by an hour going president. Why shouldn't outgoing president be allowed to start World War three and then pass the baton to the incoming You know, they give security.

Speaker 3

Briefings to the incoming president.

Speaker 4

At this point, he should be involved at a minimum in the decision making here, because he's the one who's going to have to deal with this.

Speaker 3

Trump, not Biden.

Speaker 4

I mean, Biden can't be reached by anybody, not even Jill, I'm sure at this point. So it's really scary, and of all times to escalate, and for what point?

Speaker 3

Yes, Okay, they're arguing over.

Speaker 4

Like one last piece of territory that maybe won't be Putin's and that Zelensky can with At this point, it's.

Speaker 3

Not worth it. Given the stakes that we are looking.

Speaker 4

At here, people seem to forget that they are in nuclear power.

Speaker 3

Putin can be angered.

Speaker 4

He does not want a nuclear war with the United States, but we continue to.

Speaker 3

Proceed as though it's not at least a risk.

Speaker 2

Now we're going to spend months talking about whether or not the people that Trump is peaking for his cabinet will get confirmed or not. And I love getting into the detail, but there is something I wanted to get to about this whole process before we get into the names. Right, there are two people, in particular, the person that he wants to become the Attorney General, Matt Gates, and the person he wants to become Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth.

Now they're hardcore mag of people, and that's why the Left hate them. But the way they're trying to come at these two guys to say they couldn't possibly serve is because of their personal lives. Hexeth is on his third marriage and clearly was a pants man in between each of those times. The same when it comes to Matt Gates, but also when we go back to say, the dug Emov stuff that was playing out during the election.

I don't think America cares about sex the way that it used to, and I don't think that sex in your personal life is anywhere near as disqualifying as it was ten years ago. What do you reckon?

Speaker 3

Did you say he was a pants man?

Speaker 1

He's a pants man.

Speaker 2

I mean a man who means often he enjoys not wearing them.

Speaker 1

The only place that his pants look better out on the floor.

Speaker 3

Doesn't that make him like a boxer's man. I don't understand not following it.

Speaker 1

It means that he may lay with company. How do I say it?

Speaker 3

Adds?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 2

A mad ruder is what we say in Astralia. So ironically, even though you don't need pants for the activity, you are referred to as a pants man. If you are a person who has has been with many dare I.

Speaker 3

Say this is thrilling?

Speaker 4

I learned something new about your beautiful culture every time I come on.

Speaker 3

All right, so indeed a pants man? I agree? That is how it looks.

Speaker 4

That won't that won't ruin Hegseth's nomination for his confirmation. The fact that he's on marriage number three, and I think he's on family number three. He started kids with all of them. And it's not it's not ideal. I'm not gonna I like Pete. I'm not going to pretend it's ideal. However, it's not that. It's the fact that now they're saying there's a woman accusing him of raping her.

And this was not vetted with the Trump campaign, that Pete did not disclose it to them and they did not know about it because it was just between Pete and this woman. But to be honest, Paul, it smells. This whole story smells to high heaven. The police investigated her claim, they did not bring charges. He was at some event. She was like his handler because he was a speaker. She's seen on videotape, according to Pete's lawyer, bringing him back to his hotel room as his handler.

He's obviously visibly intoxicated, according to the tapes, and she's smiling and not drunk. They go inside, she comes out eight or nine hours later, and she claims the whole night got very hazy, as though she'd been given a date rape drug. That's the obviously the obvious implication. My biggest question on it is she says she went for.

Speaker 3

A rape kit the next day.

Speaker 4

Where is the positive drug test for the date rape drug? Where is a drug test that says she was given her a hypnol Because that's the key of her whole story.

Speaker 3

She remembers nothing except.

Speaker 4

Vaguely a rape and the other nine hours are a blur, and she went to rape crisis the next day. Where's the drug test? I think if there were one, she would have mentioned it. It would have been in the police report, which it wasn't. The police declined to bring charges. And this man's career should not be ruined over this unsubstantiated allegation.

Speaker 1

Now, we put it off for long enough. And this is the thing that I'm most excited to talk to you about.

Speaker 2

I hate when people in the media couldn't give a stuff about the people who watched their shows listen to their shows.

Speaker 1

Instead they do it for the rest of the media.

Speaker 2

Perfect example of that of these two who host Morning Joe, and they of course came out and said after calling Trump Hitler and just every single day, three hours a day, the most boring, boring HEIGHTE on Trump oh well, now pace it out. Time they went and saw Trump in Mari Lago. I hate the Trump met them.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I do too. I can't stand it. And it wasn't just Hitler and fascist. It was also eight years of racist, sexist, rapist. That's what he was being called all over their show and MSNBC, and.

Speaker 3

It's all just forgotten. It's nothing.

Speaker 4

He's not a rapist, he's not Hitler. And Trump allowed it, right. Trump likes attention. He wants them talking about him, he wants them saying nice things about him. He doesn't need them. And of course I think Trump too is happy to see somebody bend the knee, which was fun to see bend it, get down nice and low huck her up.

Speaker 2

Yeah, he is just I mean, he is so up himself. And she's just lost the plot a very long time ago.

Speaker 3

But do you remember, she's an idiot. That's the other thing. She's a dope.

Speaker 4

And by the way, she's constantly she's caused it, lecturing us about women's rights like she's so okay, she's progressive. I forgot to tell you today, I do not have my black stretchy pants on. I have the full sweatpant on today, Paul Maray, I'm just going to be honest, and I need to disclose this because it's a visual.

So this miss like a champion, Miss feminist. They were on the cover of was It New York magazine ten years ago and you have a picture of the two of them where Joe Scarborough is like this.

Speaker 3

I think he might have his feet up on the table.

Speaker 4

It's like a power pose for him and she she.

Speaker 3

Is up there. This isn't I'm not dressed for this, but I'm going to show you.

Speaker 1

Okay, give me, give me, thank you.

Speaker 15

Oh yes, oh my god. That should not be doing this. That's what she did.

Speaker 3

And he's sitting there in the power position like.

Speaker 4

Yeah, do it, baby, pose you show him your brain.

Speaker 3

So I am so over her.

Speaker 4

She's about women's rights and empowerment and rapist.

Speaker 3

This you're full of and we all know it.

Speaker 2

Megan, I love you, and to show to show equal vulnerability, Rod, I'm not going to stand up and show everyone that I'm wearing shorts.

Speaker 1

So I just want to say I love you. I love you, Darlin, and we look forward to seeing you next week. Okay.

Speaker 3

So he's fun.

Speaker 15

Paul

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