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This is Paul Murray, Life, love Sharing, Okay, Stockholm. I'm going to Parks on Sunday. I'm really pumped about that. We're going to be there. If you want to send us an email out tam at skuyews dot com dot au. Great mood tonight and lots to get to, including something you probably haven't heard about thus far. Now as you know, Australia sixty forty hell no to change in the constitution and having the voice. Now, the result of this was that people believed, okay, the way things are is the
way things should be. But of course there are many state governments that have already started a process of entering into formal legal treaties with indigenous peoples. Now this process has been effectively put to one side in Queensland, but it is happening in the Northern Territory. It's well and
truly taking place right now in Victoria. Now, the wokest state in the Commonwealth, is committed to find the words that somehow put the past behind us, swile making sure that the future is the best one possible for Indigenous people. At least that's the idea. Now we've shown you about some of the things that are being put on the
table as potential ideas for this treaty. Remember Auntie Jill, Well, Auntie Jill, she had ten separate suggestions that she believed should actually be there, and among other things, it was local cultural learning places for language and culture. But then we get into the more controversial that Indigenous people should not pay land tax, they should not pay counsel rates, they should not pay stamp duty, they should get no
interest loans if they want to buy a house. They should have completely free university education, and there should be greater infrastructure and guaranteed seats on, among other things, local councils. In part this is why Auntie Jill says this is needed. But when I.
Went to school, I learnt about the ancient Greeks, and I learned about the Egyptians, who their mummies are two thousand years old.
Hello, what do we see at Tullamarine?
And I don't mean a flag or a few paintings. I'm talking about proper culture in the landscape. We are invisible, and we are invisible in our own country.
I disagree strongly, but that was her speech to the First Nation's Assembly, who in part will be negotiating this treaty. But today even more information about what is on and off the table, and put simply, everything is on the table from the perspective of the Victorian government. Now all of us understand the histories that we have all lived, and the histories that certainly Indigenous people have lived, and yes there needs to be some formal recognition of what
has happened. Also, we need to understand that the future of our country is blank pages. And it's regardless of how long you've been here, how long your ancestors have been here, that you are connected to that future. Well, the Ollen government has said today that nothing is off the table, even the compulsory acquisition of private property. Now, how many times have we had this conversation from marlbo and Wick and the voice that this would not be
part of the conversation. Well, the Ollen government has refused to rule out giving compulsory acquired private property to Indigenous groups and establishing seats designated for Indigenous members in the Victorian Parliament. Now, the minister who is taking care of the treaty process and has plenty to say about First Nations people as their relevant minister is a lady named Natalie Hutchins, and this is what she said when she
was asked by people in a parliamentary committee today in Victoria. Okay, what's too far? Quote? After two hundred years of colonization, where this state took lands away in the settlement, murdered people and took away culture and language, we are not going to be ruling anything in or out as we
go into the negotiation table in regards to a treaty. Now, even if you are the most generous of heart and believe that a treaty is a necessary step in reconciliation or the very least putting our past behind us, at some point in time, don't we have to know what is the line that is too far? Now? Auntie Jill, when we pointed this out a few months ago, said that's not the plan, that's just her suggestions. The government today say that there is no suggestion whatsoever about the
acquisition of private property. So why not rule it out. Why not say we are going to come up with a treaty. It is going to be generous, there is going to be a level of compensation. But rule out to the people of Victoria, ardless of their histories, what is or isn't on the table. There has to be
a line that is too far surely right. Otherwise, when none of this stuff is voted on by the people of Victoria, the government of Victoria will end up negotiating on their behalf and may well negotiate on things that the people of Victoria don't want. Now, there are other places in the world that have got specific seats in their federal parliament for the indigenous peoples of those countries. But let's imagine if that was to take place here.
How would that work? Who would appoint them? Would there be labor candidates and liberal candidates, Green's candidates, independent candidates. Would they simply be appointed by the first people's assemblies or the voices that exist in some of these more
woke states. I don't know, but at this stage it seems like we're in a treaty process where as soon as the demands start to be seen, everyone pretends they're not making demands, and the people who will be accepting most likely all of the demands are not setting any limits on the negotiation. Put a pin in it. Victoria voted no. Even woke Victoria voted no. There is a limit. Well, all I have to learn about what it's going to be together, and hopefully not after it's already been signed off.
On our happy anniversary to the greatest prime Minister of all time. Two years in the job as prime Minister after winning the federal election in twenty twenty one, and I mean, the country's never been better, right, I mean every single promise that was made has come true. I mean, this is the most transparent government ever. This is the government that remember it promised to lower the cost of living. Oh that's right. None of all of those things have
actually taken place. In fact, many of it has got worse. And it's not just our hunch. The latest opinion polls, even coming from the sources that would be most sympathetic to this government, are telling us where the majority of
people are. And it's not a slim majority. According to the Essential Polls, which pops up in the Turnbal Times otherwise known as The Guardian, sixty eight percent of people say that inflation has increased in the past twelve months, sixty five percent of people say that their interest rates have increased in the past twelve months, and fifty five percent of people have said that government debt has increased
and all of those things are facts. I'm not entirely sure why it's not one hundred percent, but still seventy percent of people feel that inflation is worse in the second year of this government, even worse than the massive increase in the first year, let alone the interest rate pain and squeeze which is taking place as we speak. But just one week ago tonight, the federal budget was handed down by Jim Chalmers. The theatrics were that every
labor mp was giving a standing of ocean. This is amazing, where fixed everything with too little, too late? Tax cuts and twenty five bucks a month that you won't see on your power bill. So again, is just this cynical, jaded mind of a bearded bloke on Sky News that cannot see the genius of this budget? Well, no, same pole, same people. Just twenty seven percent of people believe that this budget will have a meaningful impact on cost of living.
Seven out of ten don't because seven out of ten no that thirty six dollars a week when it comes to tax cuts, it doesn't even begin to touch the middle let alone the sides and seventy five dollars a quarter or twenty five bucks a month is hardly going to actually change the world when it comes to power bills.
And remember, straight after the speech took place, one of the first things to come out of my mouth and the five things that I noticed about the budget which feels like a long time ago, but it was one week agode tonight. One week ago was in service of the slogan of every household power and every worker tax cut. The reality was, when it comes to the tax cut, it's not going to be enough. It's a little too late.
And when it comes to the power bills, every household includes mansions, the mansions in the capital cities or some of the most cashed up people amongst us. The argument of the time apparently was that means testing was unnecessary because everyone on the income spectrum is feeling issues when it comes to cost of living. Then it came out two days later the reality was it was too expensive
to means tested. Well, guess what again. The vast majority of Australians think about the budget, which is just one week old tonight, and the idea that the power bills in mansions are being treated the same as people in housing Commission. Sixty percent say the policy is wrong and
it should be redirected specifically to low and middle income homes. These, by the way, the low and middle income homes the same people who twelve months ago in the budget had fifteen hundred dollars torn out of their hot little hands as an automatic tax return. So this government is not focusing on what they say it does two years in the gaping chasm between their promises and an election, let
alone their rhetoric as a government. And can I commend strongly commend Chris Kenny for going chapter and verse through all the lies, all of the obfuscation of the past two years. I'll be posting that up on our socials, but otherwise go look for it at skynews dot com dot au Sensational Editorial. All the others were great as well, but chris is on this particular topic really stood out
to me. Now, of course, when it comes to interest rates, remember that was all the Reserve Bank's fault, and that's only that evil Philip Lowe who's been sacked a long time ago, only be to replace by his deputy who actually increased rates as well. But all of the reason that interest rates are going up has nothing to do with domestic affairs. It's all to do with Ukraine or Gaza. Well, guess what. Even in the Sydney Morning Herald, the Age and the Brisbane Times, fifty two percent of people say
that interest rates are mainly about domestic factors. In Australia, sixty six percent of Coalition voters know it, more than half of other voters, and even thirty six percent of labor people know that government isn't telling the truth about why interest rates keep going up. Oh, it's international factors, it's here, and who's in charge of the economy here?
Old made albo with his alboonmics, which means bugger all tax cut for you, but a brand new private plane for him and another one for his ministers four hundred million dollars on private jets. Oh and of course people living in the ritziest suburbs of all they can get a power bill cut that they won't notice now. Of course, in reply, Peter Dutton, I think was able to change the subject very quickly, just two days after the budget. Again,
this is all just last week. I know it all feels like a month ago, but it was one week ago. And Peter Dutton made it very clear about what he believed to be some of the great problems of the country. Well, guess what the ABC and its fact checkers were sent out with a job, and that was to prove that Peter Dutton was lying that the Aussie version of Donald Trump was race vaiting, and their so called fact check organization was sent off to run the rule of the statements like this.
More than sixteen thousand businesses around the country have gone insolvent since the first of July twenty twenty two. Behind each of those as a family who may have lost their home but certainly have lost their savings.
And they found that he was telling the truth. At the time, in solvency figures were released by the Australian Bureau by the Australian Securities and Investment Commission, they showed that there was indeed a three god increase in the number of manufacturing insolvencies in the first six months. Well, then, of course Peter Dutton talked about health. He was a former Health minister and he talked about some of the great problems happening there as well.
People's health and wellbeing are suffering.
Indeed, when I became Health Minister in twenty thirteen, we inherited a bulk billing rate from Labour of seventy three percent and increased it to eighty four percent. When we left government, bulk billing was eighty eight point five percent. What Labour tried to hide in its budget and a figure that wasn't mentioned by the Treasurer is that bolk billing has decreased under Labour to seventy seven percent and eleven percent drop. Always look at what Labor does, not what they say they will do.
Well, knock me down with a feather. The leader of the opposition, the alternative Prime Minister, was telling a dirty, great big truth. Fact checking again from the ABC. The lattert start I released this week last week shows that in the year of March twenty twenty four, seventy seven percent of GPS these were bolk billing. It was eighty five percent when Labour became the government two years ago. Tonight, and what about inflation?
In comparative inflation, Australia is worse than the US, Singapore, Germany, Spain, Japan, the Netherlands, Italy, South Korea, Canada, France and the entire euro Area.
You can imagine the streamers that were going off when the fact checkers were able to find it was yet again the truth in quarterly data for March twenty and twenty four shows Australia's headline inflation raised three point six percent over the preceding twelve months. It is indeed above that of the OECD economies that mister Dunton mentioned. Oh, I'm not finished. And then when it came to.
Power bills, electricity bills haven't gone down by two hundred and seventy five dollars as was pledged on ninety seven occasions, they've skyrockets.
Now, you and I know this to be the absolute fact. You and I know this to be the truth. However, the fact checkers say they can't rule on this one because the pledge from labor is about twenty twenty five, and it's not twenty twenty five yet. But even then, remember the Treasurer has already openly said the two to seventy five promise, which by the way, would be the permanent change to your bills, not just sugarheit of the three hundred dollars which they're going to pump out between
now and the next federal election. Oh, in massive seventy five dollars a quarter, or twenty five dollars a month increments. I mean, thank goodness. The Treasurer of course has turned around and said, ah, yeah, that promise doesn't really count.
The number you're referring to is a forecast in twenty one about an outcome in twenty five. We're providing energy bill relief in the here and now. We did in the last budget. We are again in the next budget, but there'll be more relief for more people in this budget.
Extraordinary, truly extraordinary. Was one week ago. One week ago feels like three weeks and maybe even longer. That's why it's worth actually following what the people end up saying, what the pundits end up saying, and even what the fact checkers have been able to see here. Notice they didn't do that for the budget though, I wonder why.
Meantime on social media and the excellent campaign which is being waged by an awful lot of people around the country right now, including Fitzi and Whipper on Nova in Sydney, all the way through to the Telegraph, The Herald's Son, the Corea Male, the Adelaide Advertiser, the Hobart Mercury, which is to get our kids off social media and try to limit it once they become teenagers. Now, surprise, surprise,
the Prime Minister. Well, he said plenty to say today, But where was he a couple of weeks ago when it was Peter Malanowska saying that we should introduce age limits to access it, or Chris Min's in New South Wales who was saying it as late as yes, well, prime minister spotting that the bandwagon is moving, the bandwagon is moving. He now officially cares about what he has never shown an interest in until other people came up with the idea.
We put in the budget money for a trial essentially of how we can restrict age restrictions, how it can be effective that will take place. We want to make sure that any changes that are made actually work. The internet is difficult. I don't look at the comments on my social media because if I did, I'd find it difficult to leave the house in the morning.
Didn'ts He was fine, of course when the Internet was piling on the person he was trying to get rid of a couple of years ago. But you know whatever, that was all personal and now everything's cyclical. That was some very weasily words. The Prime Minister says, Oh, in the budget, we put some money aside to check age verification. That's not for social media. Remember that's one of the very few things that came out of a national Cabinet meeting about domestic violence, and that was about age, a
trial on age limiting access to pornography. So he's trying to pretend that a policy that has nothing to do with social media is one that he's already funded because he expects that you're not going to be able to follow the bouncing ball or people that were driving around listening to FM radio this morning. I mean, that's the slipperiness of this blow. Now, this guy has shared many a national Cabinet meeting where all of the states and
all of the territories can get together. He's had a national cabinet meeting since Peter Malinowskis made the suggestion about age verification and access to social media. Yet was it discussed when all of the territory and state leaders were in the room. No, when they were all in the room, did he say, just like John Howard did after port Arthur, let's all pass the same piece of paper that says that if somebody has formed as a domestic violence perpetrator.
There is no option for bail noe. He just thinks that he can slide money that's really about this and pretend that it's about that. He comes out and says there's a press conference for five thousand dollars for emergency payments to people that are domestic violence victims. You know that doesn't kick in until the first of July, not
this year, next year. And again, as Chris pointed out on his show today and many hosts have over the past two years, this bloke who claimed he would be totally responsible for every decision that has made, has endlessly lied, changed the subject, or just straight out gas lit people. That was a disgrace what he did on the radio today. But at least he's starting to say the policy is a good idea, but he's not putting any money behind it.
Now we know one of the favorite words of the left when they lose an argument is that apparently people fall for a swear word starting in M.
Misinformation, misinformation, misinformation, the misinformation which is there some misinformation.
So they're now trying to censor the internet where anyone, including the minister can say what they see on the Internet is not the official line, so therefore it's adjudicated by a bunch of bureaucrats who will decide if it is or isn't misinformation, you know, government's version of the truth, and then they'll turn around and put a fine on a social media company if the post stays up after
the complaint has been lodged with them. The idea here is not to stop fake news, it's to stop inconvenient truths, because you see after a while social media companies, if they keep getting complaints about certain websites, they just won't host those. Certain websites could even well be YouTube videos of people who will push back against the government narrative and do what we do here each and every night, which is use the data to prove that they are
laying well. There's a new participant in the want to sense of the Internet, and it is, in my view, a concerning one. It's the Australian Electoral Commission. Now, Australia has an electoral system that we trust, and I think in part of the reason why we trust it is because we do not know the political affiliations or even complaints about wider society from the people who take care
of our elections. Now, the AAC is not perfect, but there's certainly no need for people to have an attitude about the Australian electoral process that some people have had about other countries' processes in recent elections. Now, the misinformation conversation was brought up today, as you saw by the Boss of the Electoral Commission, who was giving evidence today
to a parliamentary inquiry. Let's read along here. In an appearance before the Committee into adopting artificial intelligence on Monday, Australian Electoral Commission boss said that there had been a trend among some among social media organizations to moderate misinformation in the public square rather than remove it from their platforms entirely. Remember, a lie or defamation is one thing. Misinformation is just simply what the government doesn't approve of.
We've noticed less willingness from the social media companies to remove content that we think, in some cases may breach our own standards or is indeed harmful to our staff. Now, anyone who's making threats against the Electoral Commission, obviously that should be dealt within the same way that any threat against any public official. I have no problem with that. He says that we've seen issues where threats online that
previously would have been removed were less likely to be removed. Now, that's interesting, and nobody's going to stand up for a system that allows people to be intimidated. That are the people that put themselves forward to administer our elections. But forgive me if the person who is using the misinformation word in tacit support of greater attempts to censor the Internet is the same organization that was fine with this lie being shown night after night, hour after hour on television.
Forgive me if I don't exactly scream to their cause when they say misinformation is destroying our democracy.
Everybody knows you don't set up a Medicare Privatization task Force unless you aim to privatize Medicare.
Great man, but that was a wicked lie, an absolutely wicked lie. Now, for the past couple of summers, as we get ready for them, the Bureau of Meteorology has been out and about telling us the summers are going to be hotter and hotter than ever before, and more bushfires and climate change, climate change. You know you've heard it all before. But of course the past couple of summers,
it's rain, cats and dogs certainly that's the case. Two summers ago, the last summer, even the Guardian was reporting that Melbourne's weathers without a hot day in January was the longest stretch since the nineteen eighties. But get ready, because yet another warning is telling us that the most likely the heat of the summer will result in power blackouts. Why because if we actually have a proper Australian summer, then people are going to really want to turn on
their air conditioners. But of course, because we have made the dumb decisions to move from the system that yes pollutes but still works to the new one that doesn't pollute as much. But certainly the construction of it is quite the issue. That doesn't produce as much power as the old system that pollutes. We're in a bit of a spot of bother, you see. We've been blowing up the stuff that worked, replacing it with not enough of the stuff that apparently will work. But the cost of
that transition is at least a trillion dollars. So we are warned yet again that as we move into the extremes of summer, and to be honest, I think we should be focused on the extremes of winter as it gets cold and people turn on their eaters. But still while new generation and storage campassage continues to increase, project development and commissioning delays are impacting reliability throughout the horizon. So put simply, we have gone from a sturdy, old
car that yes at times is inefficient. Yes at times has been polluting, no question, but that car can still race. But instead we have been told that so Australia can do its bit about one percent one percent of global emissions, while China can continue to pollute until twenty thirty and it's more than thirty times. What we do, we must transition to the car that's only got three and it'll
still win. Baptist and if you say it won't. Misinformation And what about Chris Bowen again, just like the Prime Minister, he's twisting and turning the facts to make it seem like you can ignore those people who say we're going to have blackouts because as he says, for the past two summers we haven't had blackouts, but also blackout Bowen, that would be because we haven't had hot days. But don't let that get in the way. You spin.
Lots of people say they're going to be blackouts.
This last summer A Peter.
Dutton and Ted O'Brian wandered around saying there are going to be lights going out and causing all sorts of fear in the community.
There were no blackouts caused by a lack of electricity.
We had issues with cyclones and transmission towers falling over.
That can happen to anyone, don't you love it?
Again? Their play is to the people that are kind of not even paying attention. They've got other stuff from them. If you are paying attention like you do every single night, these people are infuriating two years of this stuff. We'll see what happens whenever there's an election, whether it becomes a majority government which will get even worse than its second term, a minority government which will be pushed even further to left in its second term, or we'll see
what happens. But it's going to be a cluster. Seriously, now again, remember the reason that there haven't been the blackouts is because the summers haven't been hot enough. They haven't been the regular run of the high thirties at times, low forties days. None of those things pleasant instead replaced with the past two summers rain as far as the eye could see. Oh and speaking of great green ideas which won't cost that much money but will have incredible results.
Remember when the ghost was all about snowy two point zero, and the ghost was saying that the new version of the Snowy Mountain scheme, it'll change the world. Well, today Australia has spent billions on snowy two point zero, but an energy expert has come forward to say that the massive project may never actually produce one wad of power.
Another energy expert was on Telly with us this afternoon explaining that the process, which is behind time and way over budget, could well be even further in both because guess what, the tunnel boring machines still are breaking down Florence.
Of course, the tunnel boring machine, now legendary, is stuck again. So we're up to eight and a half billion dollars. When the project was announced it was not to cost the taxpayer anything at all, as a two billion dollar project to be completed.
In four years. You would think these people when they are this wrong kind of turtle away. Instead, I know what I'm doing and PS, thank you for the three hundred dollars off my power bill from Open Cars. Now, I want to take a couple of minutes to week blamed to you what has been happening in the past couple of days with the Donald Trump trial in the United States. Now, as you know, it is all about not the porn star, not the six, not even the non disclosure agreement. It is about how all of that
was accounted for in the books. So this trial that really shouldn't have gone as long as it has has gone for the best part of a month. One person was served up by the prosecution to be the one who proved that Donald Trump knew how the books were being kept. Now, the bookkeeper from the Trump organization has not been called as a witness because the expectation is that he may well end up siding with Donald Trump.
So we are left with the former fixer, Michael Carhen. Now, this bloke went from super Trump loyalist to Trump hater. He lied, he spent time in jail, you know the story in and around this blow. But he is the guy because he has close proximity to Trump that the guy who Alvin Bragg, the prosecutor, believes seals the deal that he will be able to join the dots that they have so desperately tried to push together for years,
in years and years. Well, the key moment of the evidence that Trump knew how it was all being accounted for was when Michael Cohen said that he called Donald Trump at a specific time on a specific day. But then it turns out that he's not telling the truth. Last week we learned the text messages showed that he was texting the bodyguard for Donald Trump, and within seconds of those text messages he rang the bodyguard for Donald Trump. But the text messages weren't about Donald Trump.
Thence Attorney Todd Blanche zeroed in on a phone call in October twenty sixteen, days before the election. Cohen previously testified he called Trump's bodyguard, Keith Schiller, to get Trump on the line, and then he and Trump finalized the plan for Cohen to pay off Daniels, but Blent said that wasn't the real reason for the call, producing text messages suggesting Cohen was actually calling Trump's bodyguard to complain he was getting prank calls from a fourteen year old.
Blent insisted Cohen misled the jury when he testified the call was about the hush money.
So he's going to jile for line before he's lied to this court because the prosecution left out the reason that he rang the president's bodyguard, and how long did he end up speaking to the president's bodyguard ninety seconds.
Trump's defense pointed out the call in question was ninety six seconds, but Cohen stuck to his story, insisting it covered both the prank phone calls he received and the hush money scheme.
Short, dude, because anyone who's seen Michael Cohen answer a question on television or on the internet notes he's very economical with his language. You don't think he was taking the bulk of the ninety seconds if not, in reality, the entire ninety seconds to bitch and moan about the fourteen year old that was prank, calling him smoking gun one gone Smoking Gun two. Was that Michael Cohen was
a man who was loyal to Trump. While he was working for him, he did everything Trump wanted him to do, except it has come out that while working for Donald Trump, he stole tens of thousands of dollars from Donald Trump, skimming off the top of part of the money that
was supposedly part of the whole stormy Daniels thing. Now, let me show you why it is important that you watch lots of different places for your news and why I often talk about news, I e. What happened today versus narrative good guy, bad guy, like you saw the Trump lawyer or evil face because you know everything Trump's terrible his How Fox News reacted to Michael Cohen admitting to stealing from Donald Trump when he worked for him.
Yeah, to show that he actually stole from the Trump organization even as they were structuring a deal to pay him thirty five thousand dollars a month is an enormous big deal.
And let's move to the left. CNN couldn't hide that this was a big part of the trial.
The fact that he was ever charged with larcening is important because stealing sixty thousand dollars through fraud, which will be larceny in New York State, is more serious of a crime than falsifying business.
But right out there to the left, mild yep, you get them right out there MSNBC, where they only interview prosecutors or people who used to work for prosecutors who think every single thing about this trial proves that Donald Trump is guilty Now, remember the trial is the bookkeeping and the intention of the bookkeeping. They won't call the bookkeeper, so they found the bloke who would say anything and literally literally lies and then if he's not long, he's
admitting to stealing money. Is this style witness on MSNBC. This is how they explain Cohen stealing from Trump has nothing to see.
He asked about the fifty thousand dollars. That's irrelevant to the one hundred and thirty thousand dollars.
And that's where he.
Very effectively got Michael Cohen to say to agree that yes, he stole thirty thousand dollars. Later, when Cohen was asked about that on redirect by the prosecution, it didn't really sound like stealing thirty thousand dollars. It sounded a lot like Michael Cohen doing the little that he could within that calculation to rebalance the bonus he fought he deserved, and it still came out as less than the bonus he thought he deserved and the bonus he'd gotten the year before.
I didn't steal, he just rebalanced. That's narrative, that's not news. Quick break back with a great discussion this evening and Nigel Faras will join us to talk about this case and a whole lot more. Thanks for watching us tonight here on Paul Murray Life. Oh, I've been looking forward to this all week none other than the current wonderful senator, that is, the delightful Holly Hughes, who should be in
the Parliament for as long as she wants. She's an excellent advocate for all people in her sturity South Wales. Good thank you Darling right and Stephen Connory, who if at any time he wants to get back in the Parliament, please a little bit of sense, a little bit of sense back there for Labor in the meantime doing.
It bat one Holly. That's about one, Holly, is all I have to.
Say to even bring you back to the Senate. You double the IQ of the Labor Senate straightway.
Exactly all right. So I just want to go slightly left field here by talking about what the AEC was talking about today and again this sort of concept of misinformation and AI and all the rest of it here, Holly, I think and I know that the AC claims that there's been a little bit of a sort of stop the steel style thing that's been popping up on the Internet on the absolute fringes about our electoral system. No serious person would think there is anything but a great
working system. But I think one of the reasons why we trust our system is because the people that are in charge of it don't really get involved in sort of topic dajure like misinformation.
Absolutely, I mean we still vote in that very sensible way of a piece of paper with a pencil and we stick it in the box ourselves. There's no computers, there's no hanging chads, there's no different systems across the different states. It's all very very uniform with a pencil and a piece of paper. I noticed in your editorial you did refer to medi Scare the greatest piece of misinformation that's ever been put out. I think it's one of Stephen's best personal Well, it's actually not a serious
policy note. It's actually set back reform of any medicare that anyone will ever be able to undertake. Basically this generation because this media get many scare and it was let run by the AEC. So it seems to me they're very worried about misinformation when it damages the Labor Party, not so worried when it's the Labor Party lying about the Liberal Party.
So Stephen again, you know, the integrity of the system matters. The AAC is not perfect, the Western Australian revote anyone, but we absolutely stand by the system and the integrities of it. I just get a little nervous when the sort of what should be faceless like people running it, start to get into the stuff like balls and strikes on misinformation.
Look, I think you may need to just put the tin foil hat back into the draw for a minute, because there's three different things, Paul, that you're referring to. Okay, one of them. I think you've got a legitimate issue with two of them. I think you're conflating in with the third, which leads you to this.
So first, the public.
Seven times nuanceds you and I and Holly at the way they use language, which okay. So the two issues that I think are fair for the Electoral Commission to have a concern about is as they do today in the i'll call it the physical world. If you put an add in a newspaper and you don't authorize it.
If you.
Direct people to vote informal by misleading them with information, the Electoral Commission deal with that today in the real physical world. Yes, So I don't have a problem with the AEC wanting to make sure that you got your hiding behind a false name on the internet.
You get to mislead Australian.
Voters about how to vote, how to participate, and how to vote formally. Okay, So I think there's a bucket that I think it's fair. Now he is probably, in my view, referring to some of those things misinformation. Then there's a second bucket, which you will see more of a gray, and I don't see it as a gray, And that is the sort of disinformation which has started to appear in American elections where third party state actors say a China, say a North Korea, say a Russia.
Sure, but he didn't talk about.
Start to want to mislead.
No, But we are, unfortunately, we're beginning to see the same sort of interference in online propaganda. And I'd actually just say the word propaganda rather than misinformation. But I'm being a little bit more colorful.
Okay, So the sort of problem might send everyone to sleep Stone talking.
Exactly.
But Paul is making a good point because it's important to understand his language, and so that sort of propaganda misinformation is seriously eroding confidence in democracies around the world.
Imagine people have to show their driver's license when they vote.
Appropriate identity, understand how the elector we're having to program this name is off on every booth. But look the reason I wanted to mention that.
Evidence behind your suggestion we have such two evidence.
And I've been on the committee that's examined elections.
How you probably have last time?
You know you yeah, almost none, So just stop company.
There's actual inquiries every after every and some inquiry into these sort of claims. Not one of them over thirty years in my time in politics, ever found anything of something.
So look the reason I wanted to talk about it. Wanted to change study. No, no, of course, I'm just trying to again rather than this stuff and you learn about it the wrong way. I wanted to talk about it head on here this evening. We could go one night. We've only got a couple of minutes here to do this. The ICC has dropped the hammer about the process leading towards the potential walk Rhymes trial for the Prime Minister of Israel and the leadership of Hamas. Now everyone's heard
that all night. But what you need to know is Israel doesn't recognize the ICC. Katar doesn't recognize the ICC. So even if they make those suggestions, no one's going to be dragged before the ICC. But the response to it is what is worth talking about here. Holly, Prime Minister today says, oh, I can't talk about it because it's a court case, as if he was affecting a jury.
Sung please, I know, like even sleepy Joe Biden managed to come out and say a couple of coherent sentences. I mean, you know, miracles do happen. I think there was two miracles today. The first one is Joe Biden managed full sentence. But disgrace was Albin Easy and the way that he was incapable of actually taking a position. Obviously, Peter Dutton came out very strongly in support of Joe Biden. I mean, it is abhorrent to put Hamas and Benjamin
Natanyahu on the same playing field. That is putting President Bush and Bin Laden, that is putting Hitler and Churchill in the same sort of framework. It's absolutely disgraceful. And the ICC it just I mean, they have no incrediblit that he left after this and Australia should withdraw its membership.
Yeah, so Stephen to that in right, this process is obviously going to keep going for a little while. I do find it amazing that as serious as all of this topic was, much of the media was talking about George Clooney's wife. Okay, guys, could we focus on it for two hours before we start to move on. What did you think today?
Yeah? No, Look, I think it's an absolute disgrace. I think I have a lot of sympathy for what Netna who said today about the heinous attack. The heenous attack committed by Hamas unequivocally needs to be condemned.
But Israel's right to self.
Defense cannot be put at risk by this ruling. It is very simple.
Now.
Having said that, I have repeatedly said I think Netnau should resign.
He's got his own.
Cabinet ministers saying pretty much the same thing, and he's got mass demonstrations against him. But that's a proper process, that's a proper legitimate debate. It is a disgrace what happened today, and they should have I'm not hoping that the court just dismisses the actual hearing because it is unacceptable for Hamas to be put in a bucket with Net and Yahoo.
All right, thank you guys to appreciate it. Vote one, Holly Hughes and vote twice for Stephen Conory because that's a good labor thing to do. All right, Thank you guys, do appreciate it.
Quick break back when Moore here, Nigel fars Joints is next here to talk about that Trump trial, and we're going to talk about the judge. We're really going to talk about the judge because Trump's right he is Alala.
I have been waiting waiting to talk to Nigel Faraj and he's, funnily enough, exactly where we need him right now to do so, none other than the great gb News host, the freedom fighter, the lovely man that is there for us in London now, Nigel. The Trump trial plays out in the middle of the night here, so I'm not getting a lot of sleep at the moment because I'm watching every little increment of it. Earlier in the show, I went into great chapter and verse about
the Cohen stuff. But can we talk about this judge because when the defense got a chance to call its first witness, he brings the hammer down and starts carrying on about them. He has extended the end of the trial till potentially next week. This guy is putting the finger on the scale in an incredible like you just have to watch one day to see it.
Well, absolutely, and I mean look at the Stormy Daniels testimony. You know, this case wasn't about what may or may not have happened. But of course he allowed her to go on and on and on because cause she's obviously making money off the back of these salacious stories. So now the judge is awful, and a judge is openly political, and a judge has been in the past very verbally anti Trump. But it just shows you, you know, great country that America is, its judicial system is now politicized
and rotten to the core. And Judge gender On absolutely shows all of that. And who knows where this goes because I don't think that any du in its right mind, having listened to the key witness, that scumbag Cohen, can possibly find a guilty verdict. But if they did, you know, with the judge sending the prison I didn't think it's going to happen. But given the hatred, given the bias, given the Trump derangement syndrome, anything's possible.
Yeah, look, even if it's a thirty day thing, we'll all see what happens. But also about Cohen, So this guy, you know, they were able to very effectively say that this guy was saying, oh, when I was working for Trump, I was super loyal to Trump, you were stealing from Trump. And then afterwards the misremembering of the telephone conversation. Yet still you turn on lifting media. They think that they
think that that's still a smoking gun. The texts prove that within seconds of the bodyguard saying call me, he did about a fourteen year old prankster.
Yeah, I mean, look, you know he's a cheat, he's a liar, and he's a thief. I mean, unreliable witness would be the gentlest way one could possibly put this. No jury can possibly take him seriously. As you say, the texts disprove everything he said. Honestly, the more people in America that see this, the better this trial is coming.
Out for Trump.
I mean, who would have believed that Trump is actually picking up support, He's going up in the polls. His price with the bookmakers is shortening. No, this is all working in Trump's favor. And I feel sorry for my friend because he's got to sit through weeks and weeks of this agony when he should be out there campaigning. But it's all coming together. I'm feeling more bullish now about a Trump victory on November the fifth that I have at any point in the last couple of years.
Yeah, and I mean relentlessly. The state by state polling it's showing the change where it's more like sixteen than it's going to be like twenty. Now use cops it from every possible angle in the UK because you push back, right, because you question the narrative, because you offer the alternative voice, right, And some of the most despicable things have been said
by the elite there. You know, the ecosystem of the media has been disrupted by how dare they but ofcom the people who regulate the process, any opportunity to put the hammer down on you guys.
They do, yes, but they've got this one wrong. So we had Richie sunac with a debate with the public, an audience with richieac with the public. We hired a firm to find an independent, neutral audience of undecideds. They got to ask their questions of the Prime Minister. We did an intervene. It was literally Sunak debating with the public. But that apparently breaches off Colm rules because of course the industry want one of their own to be the star of the show, not what we did to provide
a format for the great British public. And they've come after us. They've said within sixty days there'll be a sanction. And you know what, We're offering this to Kirstarmer. We're offering this format to every other party leader. Tony Blair did one of these on the BBC in two thousand and five, exactly the same. There was no problem then, but there is now. And what this is about, it's about an established industry who do not like an upstart,
who do not like a newcomer. And what they particularly hate is that we put the public at the very top.
The public were the stars of that.
Show, not somebody who's worked in the TV industry for the last thirty years. So I tell you what, if they trum fine us or sanction us on this, it will backfire on them very very badly.
Indeed, it is extraordinary. I mean, we've done a version of the pub Tists or the People's Forum here for the BISBAT what fifteen twenty years exact same model being repeated there and it breaches the rules because there's not a gatekeeper fednikin. Watch GBN News on the flash app, or find all of the highlights of the wonderful Nigel Farrage online as well. Thank you Mate'll see again next week.
Thank you, the great man joining us from London, quick break back with more about four minutes away from the Late Debate, and I'll tell you what Liz Storer wound up tonight. Alright, undone, the wonderful Meigan Chilly joins us tomorrow night, and here they are the Late Debate