From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Hi, thank you very much for watching. What a Wednesday Night I have for you. Let's get straight into it here. The past couple of nights we've been talking about a report that says three million Australians are right on the line of homelessness, in part because of how few rental properties there are and the ones that people do have, well they're going up in price. It means that three
million people are right on the line. We also here today that the number of businesses that are simply closing down, that are either giving up or going bust is basically the same today as it was during the absolute worst of Lockdown's what the best.
Part of three and four years ago.
In fact, today figures that have been released by credit data monitoring company credit Watch on Wednesday show that one in twenty businesses across the country is failing as consumer spending drives up and high costs hit the bottom line. One in twenty businesses failing. The record number of businesses that have collapsed is basically the same as the worst of the pandemic, and three million people are right on the homeless line. But what's our government doing with your money.
Chris Bowen is overseas. He's kissing the ring of China, as is Anthony Abernezi the Australian government, meaning you are going to spend an extra fifty million dollars giving money to countries like China to deal with climate change. The Australian government has committed an extra fifty million dollars towards a global fund to deal with the loss and damage courts by climate change. Now remember, China wants one point eighty for trillion dollars to go from countries like ours,
the countries like theirs, because they are developing. Now there are serious questions in the third World, the Global South, the developing hemispheres. But the idea that China deserves any of our taxpayers money when it, of course, is where most of the solar panels get made. It is where slave labor is making them as we speak. It is threatening global order and stability, It is inventing islands, and
it has a space station. They can shove it a bit more from Cris bow Casanover says, this builds on our foundation one hundred million dollars and now we're up to one hundred and fifty million dollars that we are giving to other countries at the same time when one in twenty Australian businesses are failing and three million people are right on the line when it comes to homelessness.
This is a disgrace. Now for those who believe.
That Australia is a rich and prosperous country must do its bit for the rest of the world.
I understand the point of foreign aid.
I understand the need for foreign aid. But when this government is standing by and borrowing money, largely from China, to give taxpayers money to countries like China to deal with climate change is a disgrace. I do not understand how this government says that any dollar that is spent helping out people with cost of living will be there will be inflationary, therefore they can't spend it. But they can borrow billions of dollars for offshore projects. They can
borrow billions of dollars for off budget priorities. This is a game and they are playing us for fools. Now again, do I expect that every person who is in financial stress is about to receive a one million dollar check from their fellow taxpayer. No, but the working poor in this country, who supposedly are represented by this government, this labor party, are working harder and getting poorer. Three million people are right now on the line when it comes
to homelessness. One in twenty businesses currently failing. The number of businesses that are going bust is right at the same level as the height of the pandemic. Yet these people have the hid to turn around and say everything's fine with the economy. We're broken in the back of inflation. Their mates in the media turn around and say mission accomplished,
Mission accomplished. How can a country like ours be in a place like this, And rather than spending that fifty million dollars on food bank to feed these people, they
spend it to look good on the international scene. This federal government, who is of course in charge of a country that is responsible for one percent of the world's problem, will in part compensate a country that is thirty three percent of the worldld's problem, while by mandate, by law, forcing us into technologies that are built by China with slave labor that will be utterly useless in twenty years time, they'll be in landfill. This is madness now for much
of the political establishment. They will say, well, of course, that's just Sky News, that's just Paul going on about what it normally does.
Normal people can see this. It is about priorities.
When the government spends more money on its own advertising to pump its own tires about two little too late tax cuts than it spends on the organizations that are feeding the poor, the working poor that are growing by the day, then people know the priorities are wrong in this country.
Again.
They can find money down the back of the couch to make themselves look good when they go overseas. They can find down the back of the couch for brand new planes to fly themselves overseas. They expect that companies give them upgrades to the front of the plane even when they go on holidays.
Yet they pretend to be the champions of the working poor. They are not. They have contempt.
The only attitude that they have to people who are the working poor or are on things like permanent pensions is that you will just vote labor anyway, you'll vote green anyway. There's no day you will ever walk away from them.
Well, let's make this very clear.
There is an opportunity for anyone else in the political specter from Peter Dutton to Pauline Hansen to say that one of their priorities is to actually deal with helping the people who are right on the line. When we have a country where not three million people are this close to homelessness, or one in twenty businesses are smashing against the wall, then we've got money to start doling out. And I'll tell you what, of the developed countries, the last one who deserves a dollar of ours is China.
Which brings me to some of the fall out and the reaction to that excellent documentary. Thank you to everyone who gave incredible feedback, and again congratulations to Chris Yellman and his team for putting together that.
Real cost of net zero.
Well, we have a little clearer example of just how big the renewable solution is to the problem quote unquote, that is, moving from one energy system that works to the one that makes them feel good when they go around the world on the private jets, the front of the planes, or of course to international conferences that they hope to bring here. Let's do a little bit of
a rough sum here. One of the great things about that documentary last night was Chris explaining just how much renewable energy would need to be built in order to match the current grid, let alone how many solar panels and win you would need to build in order to have a grid that is even bigger than the current one because everything is connected to electricity, cars, cooking, you
name it. Right today, the Victorian government, who in part one the last state election on the hope to set up a state government owned energy company, has now decided that holess Bolus on its own it will pay for a solar farm in and around Horsham.
Now the good thing is here.
We can start to do some sums about how much it actually costs to do the bow and dream about fifty thousand homes will end up being powered as a result of this renewable energy park in Horsham. Here is the Victorian Premier patting yourself on the back for the decision she is making.
We're going to see a massive solar farm and battery story project.
This is with partnering with ox two.
This has seen a three hundred and seventy million dollar investment being made through the SEC the horseh and renewable energy park on this site. It's going to see the project's going to include one hundred and nineteen megawatts solar farm being built right here on this site, and one hundred megawat two hour battery that's also going to be constructed.
Two hour battery. So the sun does not shine for eight, ten, twelve.
Hours, but don't worry, there's a battery that's full of the energy that comes out of the solar panels for two hours. No one says, okay, Premier, Premier, preer. I understand the point. I understand what you're doing here, But do you not agree that while you say that this is going to power fifty thousand homes, you've actually just admitted that at night, the power runs out after two hours. Now, of course, this is the whole point. It's not just
the cost of the wind farm. It's not just the cost of the solar, it's the cost of the storage. It's the cost of the power line. But let's work off the numbers that they gave us here today. So the solar panel system is going to cost about three hundred and seventy million dollars. I think we've got a couple of pictures of what this thing's going to look like.
Seventy fifty one thousand homes to be precise. Okay, so fifty one thousand homes and the solar panels that will help power those homes will cost three hundred and seventy million dollars.
Now, let's extend this.
There are two million, eight hundred and ten thousand, seven hundred and seventy five homes in Victoria. Based off the three hundred and seventy million dollars for fifty one thousand, that would equal twenty point three billion dollars. Twenty point three billion dollars would be how much money would be needed in that new investment, and that, by the way, is to have a battery that will last for two hours. There are eleven million homes across the country. That would
be seventy nine point eight billion dollars. The documentary was fascinating for so many levels, but most importantly, this is not a postage stamp in Europe. This is not a country that can throw an extension cord somewhere else. The idea that this is the solution. Oh, but it's the cheapest form of energy available, Not at seventy nine billion dollars,
not at three hundred and seventy five million dollars. For fifty one thousand homes to be connected to a battery that will last for just two hours once the sun goes down.
Oh, but of.
Course I'm just a knuckle drager. Now, normally I don't do the international thing too early in the show, and there's certainly lots of other conversations about the rest of the world. However, we have to note something, which is that the war in Ukraine is starting to move to a new level, and a new level which could result in the potentials of the beginning of the closest thing to a world war since, of course, the nineteen forties. Now we know that Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine has a
right to defend itself. They are doing so with the support of the Western world, and principally with the help of the United States. But a decision was made by Joe Biden after the election that guaranteed that his vice president would not take over from him in the lamest duck. Part of a lame duck presidency, he has announced that United States missiles can be used by Ukraine. And guess what they have been. These missiles are not being fired in Ukraine by Ukraine to hit the Russians that are
in Ukraine, these are now being fired into Russia. The response from Putin is to say that this is a new level of attack and potentially a nick might be the option. Of course, if that's the case. Despite the fact that Ukraine is of course not part of NATO, every country around it, with the exception of Russia, is part of NATO, one hit on a NATO country equals all in. Now again, as frightening as all of this scenario is, and I hope that it is just another
bit of Russian bluster and nothing comes of it. And I am not entering into the how much and the what and all the rest of it about how Ukraine is going to defend itself, But could somebody please explain to me who the hell is in charge of the response, Who is making sure that we do not get as close to a world war as we were in the nine en forties. Literally, as we speak, Joe Biden is coming back from the G twenty, where he couldn't be
bothered turning up the photo ops. They didn't even wait for him, and of course, famously after he finished his speech, he just wandered off into the jungle.
Now, of course you know that he's following a path and ends up back in a hotel. But that's the image.
That's the image of the leader of the free world at a time when Russia is saying, because of the decisions of that bloke, there's a chance nukes might be involved. Meantime, the Vice President, let's imagine Joe's out to lunch, the Vice president, yes, licking her wounds after an election that her people and her believed was going to go her way.
Well, she's not in Washington. She's nowhere near the situation room. In fact, she's buggered off to Hawaii.
She's on holidays, and she can have all the holidays that she wants on January twenty, when she hands in her gun and she hands in her badge. But till then you've got effectively a gone fishing sign which has been put out in the front of the White House. This is extraordinary a decision to escalate that Biden refuses to answer. He's an example of press trying to ask him about why did you take this to the next level when your time is running out?
This is frightening. It truly is.
Thank goodness Trump's coming, and thank good Trump is going to be able to take over on the twentieth, but there's only one president, one government at a time. We'll talk about this with nine l Farage, our special guests, and I make sure we have proper.
Time for it tonight here on Paul Murray Live.
You know, I always get a bit emotional when it comes to subjects about kids. Why because mine are little and like you, I'd die for them a thousand times over. Well, as we know, our politicians right now are having conversations where it's about the social media use of kids, it's
about a censoring the Internet bill. Thankfully, the censoring the Internet bill won't happen, and jeez, pay attention to all the people that are trying to take a victory lap on a story that they have barely talked about for the past two years some of the anyway, Thankfully, that's not going to be an issue here. That bill's just going to die and let's see whether that vote happens.
We need the vote to happen otherwise that it was pull it and that hangs like a sword over everyone for another twelve months, including running.
Into the election.
But we also learned today again another example of how kids are not okay now I get it. They're too soft because of participation trophies. And by the way, their parents got participation trophies as well. They didn't just get invented in the past two years. There's been around for too long, the best part of twenty years. Yes, they're too soft because of a lack of resilience for a whole collection of reasons that exist. But it's not their fault when little kids are struggling. What about this for
a story today? Parents, grandparents, aren't his uncle's friends. Eight year old's well, sorry, eight years old, I should say, is now the age that children start experiencing.
Serious mental health declinent? What is wrong with this joint?
Three million people, this close to the homelessness line, one in twenty businesses and now eight years old. Is when a country like Australia has a scenario where kids are starting to have serious mental health the client and a shocking report revealing that the danger age has now dropped from ten years old to eight years old.
Wake up, Australia.
The kids are not all right and it ain't their fault and we've got to do our bit to try to save them. The Smiling Mind survey of almost three thousand children aged has this between four and twelve and their parents. Highlights how the rising levels of stress and anxiety and parents is wearing off on their offspring. Cost of living and parental responsibilities are weighing heavily on mums and deaths.
So here's the deal.
Can you make me a promise tonight? If you are the mum, the dad, the nana, the poppa, the auntie, the cousin, or just the person who has little people in your life, can you please look them in the eye and tell them that you're always here for them. They will never get in trouble for talking about how they feel and we will work through this together. If they don't want to talk to us, then can you please write this telephone number down and can you put
it on your fridge at home. If you've got kids or older kids or grandkids, the Kids Helpline one hundred double five one hundred free call anywhere in the country one hundred double five one eight hundred, or if the kids would prefer to text someone or do it online, go to kids Helpline dot com dot au. Write that down, put it on the fridge. How the heck did we get to the spot we're an eight year old is the new line when people start to have mental health issues in this country.
Dear goodness, we.
Are not a place that is in the middle of a war. We are not having a famine. There is not many of the social issues that exist.
Around the world. But this is the facts.
And again, if you're just somebody who says, oh, that's just teaspoonful of cement and hard enough. Okay, great, cool, that's not going to work. All right, it's big, it's complicated. I can't solve it. We can't solve it quickly. But if they're in trouble, for goodness sake, let's give them the tools to be able to dig their way out. Let's give them their helping hand to pull them out, or let's make sure that we throw the ladders of
support their way. We love every single and if you are a young person watching this, either on the Telly or on a video later, we love you and we need you. And as tough as it can be, and I know it can be tough, believe me, tomorrow is better.
Believe me, tomorrow is better.
The Kids Helpline write the number down one hundred, double five, one hundred Kids Help line dot com dot A you strength and love to any and everyone who struggles in this country. I talk about it not because it's politically advantageous, but because it is the human thing to do, and we are that before we are anything else. A few
other things worth mentioning now. Farmers, of course, of recent years, have shown themselves to be the real line in the sand when it comes to what people are willing to cop. Remember the brave Canadian farmers and truckers and their fight again since the indeacy of COVID lockdowns, and then of course of recent years, particularly French farmers but also ones wider across Europe, they were fighting back against again stupid crazy new rules. Well he's a new one that's coming our way.
UK farmers. UK farmers have taken to the streets.
They are pushing hard against new rules put in place by every London centric government that of course is punishing people in regional areas because they have no issue about how they vote, because they will never end up voting labor sound familiar to what happens here in Australia. One of the people who took to the streets is none other than the bloke who's sensational show on Amazon called Clarkson's Farm Jeremy Clarkson.
You've got to watch this. You've really got to watch this show.
He's funny, he's interesting, but most importantly he shows you the plight of life in rural areas. And you can see this is a swashbuckling bloke from London who's decided to experience that life, the people and the life we know is tough.
Here is why he took to the streets.
She said the past, if she'd have wanted to take out the likes of James Dyson and investment bankers and so on, she would have used a sniper's rifle. But she's used the blunderbus and she's hit all this lot. It was, as I understand it, it was a very rushed, last minute decision, and I think, you know, we all make mistakes in life, and I think it's time for them to say, you know what, we've got this one up a bit and back down.
That's my view, right, that's why he's in it.
Hill copped of course, in an around the rifle conversation, he is an explanation though about the wider issue and why they were protesting.
Look at this. This is really chasing. I think this is farm business income. This is for cropping farm so horticulture cereals in the light over the last three years. Last year, nearly one hundred thousand pounds was the average income, not profit money coming through the door. Look at last year less than fifty thousand pounds been a dreadful year on the farm. You're only bringing in less than fifty pounds on average through the door before you account for
a profit. And you've got a big tax bill annually. You've got to think where is that money going to come from? And that is where without tax planning. There are ways around this. You can pass the states on seven years early. You can get life insurance. But that's why some farms are saying they're going to have no choice but to sell land to pay the tax man.
Extraordinary stuff, strength and love do everyone is on the land.
We look forward to celebrating you yet again outtown Sunday night.
This one from Bendigo in Victoria.
But wherever you are, we really appreciate everyone watching us, especially those people watching us right now on scone is Regional. Thank you for the support that you show this program each and every night. We'll send nothing but strength and love your way, all right. A couple of other things worth mentioning, tasy What the hick's going on in taxi? They already had an election this year. We know that
the government effectively is a minority government. It has been propped up by people who used to be part of the Jackie Lambiy alliance. They couldn't stand working with her, so they became independence to prop up the government. But guess what, it has already been tested and it was this close to the whole thing falling over again and a new election being called. It's all in relations to poker machines and there's been a long fight for a
long time. But the Labor Party in Tasmania is nuts about and they're obsessed with wanting to ban these things. It doesn't matter how many elections they lose and how many times and how many bits of the state they turn around and tell them to bugger off. Note they're going to keep going because that's the way they like to march on. So because things have not changed, or sorry,
things have changed. You saw the Labour Party get up with the Greens and others to try to force a no confidence motion that would of course effectively mean either a change of government on the floor of the Parliament, but because the Labour Party doesn't have enough numbers, what it would actually mean is off to a brand new election. I love your Tazzy. You deserve better than the garbage that's going on there right now.
Unbelievable.
Now to Coeensland, where of course that idiot Stephen Miles is now the reality is sinking in that he's going to be the opposition leader for the next few years. His chance of becoming premier is four years away. And by the way, he's still on social media. I noticed he was being effectively a tooling down on the Gold Coast in the past couple of days, so you know, talking to young people about their issues. The faces you can see on TV though, a Queensland labor in peace
who lost their seats. They're all going to get forty two thousand dollars each because of course, when they lose their job, they get your money, despite the fact that when they were in your job they bug it up how they spent your.
Money and that's why you gave them the backside in the first place.
And finally, a good bit of news, I ninety eight radio station Woollongong in New South Wales.
For twenty years.
They have done this spectacular charity thing which is a giant convoy. It's a convoy for the kids and it raises lots of money, lots of toys, lots of gifts for the kids that struggle in and around there. Can I say to Marty, Christian Bella and everyone who listens to that show, congratulations because the twentieth andversary version of this Illawarra Convoy has now raised two and a half million dollars. Congratulations to each and every one of you
and everyone who helped along the way. Now, as you know, on this program, we have supported Trump. There have been plenty of times where we get that not everything's amazing, but generally speaking we are Trump supporters, certainly of the past couple of years, and we're very excited about what happened when it came to the election. Hence why the Trump dance is more than welcome on this program. In fact, Meghan Kelly and I joining a Trump dance from time to time.
Yeah, it's a stiff move, but hers is way more impressive than mine.
For the most obvious of reasons, Well, Not all Australians, of course, are happy about Donald Trump, and it is my responsibility to tell you the truth, which includes a new pole which says quite a few people have some different views here the Talbot Mills Research poll. Never heard of it, but anyway, let's follow the headline. Conducted in the week following the election found forty five percent of Australians thought that his return to power would be a disaster.
Just twenty three percent of people are correct and believe that he would be a good president the issues.
They are in and around.
Men men aged thirty to forty four believe forty three percent of them so the Republican would be a good president, which is double the number who believed that his second term would be a disaster. One in five women think that Trump will be a good president. But this is really interesting that group men thirty to forty four. These
are people who were taught in woke schools. These are people who have been told you can't say that, But now they know they can say that, and they know that they can say and call but yes on much of the stuff that they are told is absolutely non negotiable. Wonder what will happen at the upcoming federal election one of the biggest areas that helps define Australian elections of people between the ages of thirty five and fifty five.
We know that thirty five to fifty five year old women moved hard against the Liberal Party and hence the teals popped up.
But are we going to have a.
Scenario where thirty five to fifty five year old men are going to run in exactly the opposite direction, canceling out the new activism that's gone its way of the teels.
Watch this space all right.
I want to cut it there because I've got great things ahead. In fact, right after the break, you're gonna love every second of this. I can't say a word, but believe me, sit there, enjoy and make sure that you're well hydrated because you're going to love the rest of the show.
Something special. Next, Nigel Farage, before we're done, thanks for watching. Told you this was special. Man.
Cave doors are locked because we're going to have some fun right now. Joining me around the table is not and as Steven Conry, who's just here to help and the carryouver Champ brom and Bishop Lovely to see you both. So let's begin with this Kevin Rudd has come out of Kevin Rudd High to tell us that Kevin Rud is now willing to deal with the Trump administration. How very kind of him now, of course, because we are all loyal subjects of Karen. Here's what the ambassador had to say today.
We live in a world of many challenges, and we are clear that the region we want, the interests we have, and the values we share require and call for our two nations to work together. And that is what we will continue to do with President Trump and his incoming administration. We here at the Embassy in Washington look forward to contributing to that in the future.
Roman, We here at the embassy, like you know, it's just a bunch of us, you know, sitting around in this little hut that we put together.
There's brand new, multi billion dollar building.
Okay, I have one comment to make, arrogance. Thy name is Rudd. Yes, what about the Royal We I mean serious. It's not a question of him being prepared to work with the president. You've got agree to that stuff. It's a question of how he's received by the government for whom we are supposed to be putting Australia's best case.
And look and again those that there is most obsequious members of lovers in the media. Right media lovers, I should say, turning around and saying you know, well, of course, you know he's playing a four D chest that none of us can see in the news corp conspiracy of trying to push him out so he can rerun a
royal commission camp. Okay, we don't see it. The point is right, he doesn't have to come out and say Trump's the greatest, Trump's Trump's amazing, but he does have to some degree say, look, some of us have made poor judgments in the past about him and his position, and that's why we think we're in a position to be able to work this sort of garbage of releasing a statement that we are now finally ready to deal with. Mate, you deal with who the American people elect, not the other way around or.
Espirsonally the leasing a statement, he was speaking to a conference, so it was a little bit more formal than just him having a chat.
And hence why it was a royal wi. It wasn't just a collective wie.
It was a royal So I think this was part of that process that you're saying he should do so. I think this is the beginnings of that. But again I go back to the fundamental issue. All sides of politics in Australia has said consistently he's done a good job. He has pursued and chased the issues of Australia needed to pursue. Yes, there's a new leadership. Yes it's going to be a bit tougher, there's going to be some
significant issues differences. Tariffs is the obvious one, and we have to get behind him because he's got to succeed for the good of the country.
Okay, but what about the bit where somebody who was obviously trying to help didn't really help today when it was one of the security advisors to the Biden people, I was out about saying that he's operating like a foreign minister, which basically means he's outdoing whatever the heck he wants to, rather than doing the bidding of a foreign ministry, he's behaving as a foreign minister while he's in Washington.
This wasn't very helpful today, was it. Bromwin and I.
Get it that Penny Wong's currently obsessed with what's happening in the Middle East, but he's supposed to be the servant, not the master.
This is the whole problem.
The job of a diplomat is to be diplomatic. It is to put the best case for your country and make someone you're putting it to be sympathetic to the country you're representing. How that arrogance can met that description is beyond my comprehension, he says.
The team is ready.
Well, I hope the goodness they are, because the team is going to be useful no matter who is the diplomat.
Well, and I think there'll be some other people to be added to the team, perhaps a little in the shadows and the flanks, perhaps of the side.
Of politics that he doesn't like.
Let's talk though about today the people behind the scenes and the Labor Party are saying they're not going to fall into the same trap that Harrison Democrats did in the American election in the Australian election. Put simply, that just means everyone say cost of living as many times as you possibly can. However, I'm not sure that people are listening, and as even we saw in a place like Queensland, where sure, thanks very much, thanks very much,
thanks very much. All right, Buggy you was the reaction. What does this say to you, Bromwin about labor honestly starting to push some bricks here that they know that they are on some very sticky paper.
They're stuck.
Every time they get up and say everything's wonderful, the economy's fantastic, you're all doing terribly well.
You've had wage rises, you've.
Got cheaper charget, it irritates people beyond belief because they're having trouble playing for the groceries. So in a way, every time they mentioned cost of living and what we have done for you, aren't you lucky? In parentheses, it just aggravates people more and more. And all the polls show that, and in Australia they far more accurate than
they own. You understand, Yes, this is important to note show that Peter Dutton is much more trusted about being able to manage the economy than either the snake Charma or Alberta Trots.
I love it.
But by the way, see when they look everyone see have you noticed when they look at each other in the eye temperature down right? We're bout having a conversation, all right, But Stephen, what's really going on here?
What's the secret I think no. I think Paul needed to say what he said. I think there are lessons that need to be learned from what happened in America. So I think he was actually not trying to send a subliminal message talk about cost of living, because most good points, people are hurting and they don't react well to a bit of a lecture about how well they're
all doing. I couldn't agree with more on that, So I think Paul was really wanting to say there's whole bunch of esoteric issues, called them the woke collection of issues that we should really not be talking about. We need to be talking about the successes, whether it's in age care, whether it's in what we've done in economic relief. We've got to be talking about those. If you're going to indulge yourself, there's a Paul's basic message, you're going
to end up like the Democrats. You're going to end up in a situation where after the election will be saying we didn't want to buy about freak show party that the Center's Democrats are now having the debate in the US about well.
Perfect example, right, if the entire business of the day of Parliament one day was to guarantee the Nbian wouldn't be sold.
Remember that was the day. And then there's the they know.
I was very popular. I had people texting me saying, never have the liberals spoken so well.
Press relation. I've got the press.
Quoting it a lot.
Apparently the problem you wanted to sell it but it's not salable.
Yeah, well was it?
So when we talk about priorities, right, that was of course a get out of upgrade albut right.
Or quickly let's talk about that for the day.
Then of course there's been this misinformation stuff, which is the sense of the internet stuf that's gone all right, Clearly there is no path in the Senate unless there's about to be a giant sort of you know, you know, Scooby Doo style reveal of somebody who said no voting yes, which means take the vote, kill it off, get rid of it now. Almost likely they're probably going to turn around and say we know we can't win, so we'll yank it and then keep it alive as an election issue.
If they do that, then that is everywhere other than where Paul.
Erickson was saying labour needs to be today.
Well, I felt sorry for mister Erickson. He had to say something to this party.
Room and well the Prime Minister wasn't there, believing at.
This stage of the game have being said in party rooms for many, many years.
There will be very nervous people sitting in there.
There will be people who are feeling, particularly marginal seattholders, who are saying, one of these people done to me, Why am I going to approbate the price? So he had to try and shore them up. But honestly and truly what they are doing is exactly what the Democrats did. We're going to bash up on the leader, call him names, yes, say he's a horrible person, and then we're going to tell you what a great job we've done.
So that's a really interesting point. So we see that labor again. There's the whole We've got an ad and we're going to run it soon, put it in the media and then the media runs it for free. Right, pretty simple trick. And it's all about under Peter Dutton, you'll be worse off. What do you think of that as a tactic, because under elbow they are worse off.
Right, there's simple maths. If Dutton wants to make some serious shows like he's already dumped the tax cuts. That was going to be a miller around his deck. He's got to put forward and spending cuts. Okay, and that's where it gets to. You need to reinforce what he did to say that what he's going to propose is going to make you worse than you currently are. So the two bits need to come together. So you have to start one part of the discussion.
Now.
I think if they just try and personalize it to oh, he's just a bad person, I think they'll miss the target like Kamala missed the target.
Yes on you know Trump.
Yeah, well, I think it needs to be about real substantive actions that Dutton's taken and he's going to do these to you again that at least has a degree that might get through if you talk about it for six months.
But also right so you know, after spinning our head and putting our head into the American election for as long as we have right, they have these whole teams whose job it is is to respond to what the other team did that day, right, like they do it quickly on Twitter. They come back with a meme, here's your ad, here's really fast. The Lips have had no response publicly to these stories that have been building for a couple of days. Now, again, American politics is different
than Australian. But does the Liberal Party have to wake up to the twenty four of it all, which is the elections are actually one and lost way before the campaign is even close.
Well, I think they know that, but I still stick to my prognostication that it will be an early election. I mean, all the decks are being cleared, All the outgoing MPs have been told to do the valedictories these two weeks.
All the signs are there that they're ready to go.
And those two weeks are what the first two weeks?
This week, there's a lot have been done this week. Wow, the rest will finish next week.
Okay, so all the decks are cleared, so they're not coming back next year.
There's not going to be a second budget.
Why would when you've got a treasure who's been boasting, he's had two services, why is he going to come back for a third one? Say oh, well, here's the deficit?
So can I ask the mechanical question? Okay, if two weeks everyone says they're goodbyes there, thanks very much. The retiring people right, obviously not planning to come back to work. The first sittings would be in February if they were planning to come back to work.
So if they're talking about potentially a May election, why would Parliament not be back in February.
It doesn't have to be right well to do it?
Say well, which means you call the election around Australia Day for some time in February, right, or what if the thirty three after? Okay, cool, good, good to know there. Now, just by the way, just about American politics for a second, Stephen, your team spent a billion dollars and ended up twenty million dollars in the hole. They spent two and a half million dollars on Oprah.
Winfrey has denied that, and Beyonce has denied that.
Well about personal payment, but whether their company's harper.
But you get the point, right.
Look, people win and lose elections for a whole bunch of reasons. And I'm sorry, it's late enough at night, I'm going to say it.
How do you piece away a billion dollars? That's a very good question. Surely you could spend three quarters of a bill and loose.
They got themselves convinced that on a couple of issues like, as an example, abortion, that there were all these Republican women who were going to vote against Trump, still for the rest of the Republicans, but against Trump. And what the referendu In four of the swing states they voted. They voted four abortion rights to be enshrined in the legislation,
and yet they still voted for Trump. Yeah, this tactic was an epic fail and there was a lot of no effort to try and farm a vote that didn't exist. And that's how you waste a lot of money, Okay, and.
In a machine, right, presumably, if you've got two hundred million dollars, you've got access to the best data thing in the world to have a look around this corner, under this and lift this and all of that.
Right, But obviously the data was wrong. Right now.
We know they were spinning and basing and all the rest of it. But you don't keep spending. I mean, when you know you're losing, you know you're losing, all right, So how do you change the data when the data is wrong? I mean, famously there was sort of the twenty nineteen labour thinks their data was headed this way, and.
Then they changed some things for twenty two. What do you do because presumably.
These are the trick in the US system though, is because it's sometimes about trying to encourage the other party's voters not to turn out. Right, So the reason the tactics are a bit different. Why you know yourself and others have said, you can't just follow the Trump playbook because everyone has to come to vote. So you do two things in an election campaign in the US that you don't do in Australia. You've got to encourage your voters to come out, and you've got to discourage your
opponent's voter. So you've got to keep running the negative ads try and dissuade them to come. In Australia, that can't work. By definition, people turn.
Up and then and then inside a political party, when you when you're getting the insights wrong, like when your instruments are off, do you change the instruments?
Do you jump into the new plane? Do you give the people who got it wrong a second chance?
Well, that's that's if you knew the answer to that question, you'd never lose.
Its.
Both lost a lot of it.
I've never lost one, never lost one. You opened it up. You opened it up.
Was successful in all the elections. I wrote it.
There we go excellent. All right, thank you guys to appreciate it. A very quick shout out.
A couple of weeks back, I was traveling overseas on a Thursday morning and one of the stewarts coming he hit his name. He didn't want me to know his name. I just wanted to say to you how fantastic and how much he enjoys watching the three of us, and so I wanted to give him a shout out him and they didn't want me to know his name. And he did ask me to, you know, not as a primar, but just as a reminder that I'd do this. But I'll give you a corners cap to leave in the
man cave. He wanted it in the man cave. And I apologize to him. I forgot it coming to Sydney. But he was a great guy. Had a lot of laughs with him during the lives. But he really loved watching this part of the show.
I Love You it was.
It was very kind of em. He was fabulous on the plane.
Well, our mystery man when he can't turn up, that's going to be our shout out to you. Thanks very much, appreciate it, guys, look forward to seeing you again next week. Niger for us standing by in the UK. So much to talk about with him, so joy us next.
Niger.
Faras joins us now from the UK where he does it and every week you can see a show on GBN News.
Great man, love you to see you.
And what about the news out of Wales where reform is absolutely braining it in what might be local elections there.
Yeah, we have the Welsh Parliament elections coming up not till twenty twenty six, but no. Really interesting in Wales's reform now is the opposition to labor. This one pole even puts US ahead of labor. And remember that the values of South Wales, that's the home of the Labor Party. That's kind of where the whole thing started. So yeah, we're seeing very big change. And I think I think Trump's victory in America is making people look at things
and thinking, wow, maybe we can do different too. So yeah, quite exciting times for me.
Yeah.
I often think about this and I have obviously in the past couple of weeks, right, which is that you don't want to overinterpret a result. You don't want to think that you know, one and me again. No win is forever, no revolution, you know, it's just there's there's the back and forth.
Of all of it.
Right, However, there has been this really interesting feeling in the past couple of weeks.
It does feel like.
The doors have been blown off for people to say, you know what, I can say it, I can do it, and I can do it the way I want to do it, which means I don't want to go the old ways of doing things. And it's fascinating watching all the system in place still fighting, but they're fighting a completely different sport against Trump, and I think the same applies to you and reform.
Yeah, I mean, you know, they don't change the establishment, don't change their tactics, they don't change their ground game. And what they're not recognizing is the silent majority are beginning to speak. The silent majority are less scared to say what they feel, and the silent majority recognize that the way we're going in every Western country is in
a decline as the East gets stronger. So no, no, I'm I genuinely think that we are at between now and say, the next couple of years, a real pivotal point in Western politics. And you're seeing it in France, you're seeing it in Germany, you've seen it already in Italy. There's a big, big change coming, huge cultural change.
Now, forgive me, we didn't keep you up on this subject, but I think it's one that you'd be able to easily be across. Which is tonight, I had a conversation that there's a report that's come out that says that eight year olds in Australia is when you start to see science of potential mental illness an eight year old, Right,
you'd have similar things in the UK. I don't know exactly where the number would be, but did god, how did we get here that the Western world, with all of its you know, peace and prosperity, results in mental illness in our kids. And it's not their fault because you know, but how the heck did this happen?
Well, one thing I would say is that lockdown did prove to be disastrous, genuinely for the mental health of young people. They weren't socialized, they weren't normalized. We must look down on what back on that period, in particular what states like Victoria did, and we should hang our heads in shame. That aside, we are over diagnosing mental illness.
We are taking normal trauma that we all go through in our life when we feel upset, we feel down, we're bereaved, whatever it may be, and we're overinterpreting that as being mental illness. And we are from young ages right the way through drugging the population with drugs to lift us up. We're drugs to put us down. The whole thing is a disaster and actually a little bit of old fashioned put yourself together, just get on with it. That's the way it is. Take the rough knocks, move on.
We need more of that attitude. And I have to say, you know, I sound like my grandparents when I was eight years old, and do you know what they were right?
Well, this is it.
I mean, they of course dealt with the existential threats of world wars and depressions and all the rest of it. I think also the fact that the diet of fear that's in kids about climate change and cultural stuff and all the rest of it doesn't help either. Last one, he talked about Jeremy Clarkson and other farmers.
That took to the streets.
What is the tax situation that is forcing them onto the streets.
So farming in this country, Yeah, of course we have the great landed estates, you know, the downt and abbey type of states. But most farms in Britain are quite small, and many of them have stayed in families for generations, in some cases even hundreds of years. One of the reasons the whole world comes to England, comes to the UK and says what a beautiful country it is is because the way in which those families have stewarded that land. Now,
land prices have gone through the roof recently. So a farmer has a farm on paper it's worth a fortune, but his or her income is still very, very small. And what the Government of posing is to introduce inheritance tax on family farms at twenty percent over a fairly small level. And that would mean that farms would need to sell off chunks of their land, which ironically would get bought by overseas companies who pay hardly any tax
here anyway. And frankly, it could be the death knell of the family farm in our country, and it would break up our rural communities. And it's almost as if the urban elites who have no understanding of farming, no understanding of country folk. It's almost as if.
They despise them.
You know, they want them to put up solar panels, they want them to do rewilding. They've forgotten that farming is about making food. A whole host of net zero regulations and now this so our really lovely rural communities feel in battled, and they came to London to protest yesterday.
I was there with them.
Amazing, not a single sweet wrapper left behind. Protesters shaking police officers hands, saying thank you for looking after us. Just just the loveliest, nicest people you could ever meet, under assault from an urban intellectual labor party.
Strength to their arms, strength of yours for talking about them as well. See you next week, Thank you, Nigel. Let's our show for the night, making Kill Eat.
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