Paul Murray Live | 20 June

tough for each and every week. And in fact, as we've constantly shown you, we try to find different ways to tell you the story every now and then. But according to the financial monitor website Finder, seventy seven percent of Australians are living in some sort of financial stress at the moment. That puts it right into the extreme world.

But what I wanted to focus on tonight is in fact what I just jumped over then, which is that Australians love giving to charity, but we can't give as much as we'd like because of what's happening in our own financial circumstances. And of course, right now, as we move towards the shortest day of the year, and certainly

the cold of winter is fully upon us. And that's a good thing, of course, if your entire business is built around how cold things can be, like say the snowfields, where thankfully there's been some falls both in Yucipwhals and in Victoria, which is a nice stunt for those who like to go skiing, but more importantly the businesses that

are affected. For everyone else, it's just rug up and you know the experience, regardless of whether you're getting a coffee in Melbourne or taking the dog for a walk or whatever's going on in your life. It's cold. For the people who live in the slightly more northern states, it's the opportunity to wear that one fancy jumper that you only wear a couple of times a year, but

we're all wearing them right now. But there is a group of people that we have to think about during the coldest time of the year, and that is the people who have no roof over the head, those who live amongst us who have nowhere else to go. Now, the profile of the people that are homeless in Australia has changed since the government came to power and since cost of living became the burning issue. There are people

who have jobs who are homeless. There are people who do their best to try to hold out of the rental market, but because there's so many other people going for increasingly expensive and increasingly rare properties for rent, they end up homeless. In fact, about one hundred and twenty two thousand people in Australia on any one night sleep rough. That's the biggest number that has ever been the case

in Australia. We've had prime ministers come and go of all political stripes to say they're going to do something about it. Tonight, some of the wealthiest people in the country, the CEOs amongst us, are doing the CEO sleep Out. This is a great initiative. I've been part of it and done live shows from it. But more importantly, these are people who head up businesses all over the country

and they will sleep rough. Like those one hundred and twenty two thousand people, they have the warmth of knowing that they slept well last night and they'll sleep well again tomorrow night. But if any CEO sleep out, it raises an awful lot of about fifteen hundred CEOs will be involved at sites all around the country. Tonight, you can go to the Vinie's website if you'd like to donate to the cause in general or one person in particular.

They want to raise about eight million dollars. They've currently got about seven million dollars coming from about thirty five thousand different people. And all of that's great, and often there is this annual focus from the media about homelessness through the lens of this CEO's sleepout. It's a great thing. We'll cross to it again live later in the show. But there are images that are not as famous that are an example of the working poor having to literally

go and get food donations. This was a recent photo in Melbourne on just an average night of a number of people who were lined up almost around the block to get a handout of food. As I've told you before, about three point seven million people in Australia living a thing called food insecurity. That means they have gone without meals at least one day in the week. It's a huge number. Here's a group of people that I think

we're also lining up for food in Sydney. Now I don't start with this to depress everyone or to go over old ground, but for those of us that are comfortable enough to sleep warmly tonight. We must think of those who will not be sleeping warmly tonight or tomorrow night, or next week or the week after. We must put pressure on governments for them to care. And if we can,

we should give to charities. But as I said, Australians would love to keep giving, but because we don't have enough at times for ourselves, it means we are giving less. This was a focus of an interesting report today in the Sydney Morning Herald. Well they say that the cost of living crisis is driving Australians to the nation's charities, so it's forced up to eighty percent of people to cut the amount of money that they are giving the

welfare organizations. So put, simply, more people than ever before are needing help from a charity, but the amount of people who can give money to charity is going down fast. As part of a broad survey which was carried out about attitudes towards charity done by the University of Queensland, seventy eight percent of people say they've reduced their donations

because of the cost of living crisis. Sixty one percent say they still believed it was important for them to have social impact through donations despite the pressures on their own finances. So at a time when again, I'm not breaking news that there's poor people, but there's more of them than ever before. I'm not breaking news that there is working poor, but there are more of them than ever before. I'm not breaking news about homelessness, but there's

more of it than ever before. But the help that these people get is only through the good will of others. We are entirely indebted in this country to the people who work in any form of charity, be it people who are at the cold face giving meals, to the people who are helping out in the soup kitchens, to the people who are giving out toys, to the people

who sponsor kids in poorer parts of the country. No matter what you do, if you are any of those people, I want to thank you from the bottom of our collective heart from those of us who always say, yeah, I should give, but tomorrow, no tonight, right, do it by a CEO, sleep out, do it by food Bank again.

Food Bank is one of those charities that just keeps on going all day, every day, just like Vinie's, just like the Salvos, just like the kids helpline, and so many others, and so often when I highlight one cause, there's so many generous people watching this program that when I ask for your help, you're coming drives. I don't have that cause tonight. Instead, it is a general call for all of us for what we can to give

the charity. But in this time of need, the one group who does have the money is the federal government. But amazingly, the organizations that are handing out food to those people that we showed you before, well they asked in the last federal budget for forty five million dollars to come from the federal government to help boost what they do. However, they got knocked back. The federal government said no, no extra money, No extra forty five million dollars and can we show the photos of the people

again in Melbourne. No extra money to help these people. What does that say about a country that is washing around in more taxation revenue than ever before, a government that it claims you should vote for them because they have a budget surplus, they couldn't possibly find forty five million dollars to help the people who need the help right now. But of course this government does have specifically forty five million dollars that could have gone to the

food banks. But that's how much they're going to be spending on themselves, on marketing themselves. Repeat. Food banks wanted forty five million dollars, but Labor is spending forty five million dollars on telling you about its future Made in Australia program. It's nothing to educate the public about how they can apply for the grants. Instead, it's just forty five million dollars of taxpayers money to shove a brand

into your consciousness. This is on top of forty million dollars on ads that you're probably seeing, hearing or a sick of now about the Stage three tax cuts. You know, the too little, too late that's not going to change anyone's lives, especially the poorest amongst us. Life is about priorities, and we can't fix all the problems all the time.

We can't make homelessness go away just like that. But one thing we can definitely do is that when a charity comes begging for money from a government, a government that claims to have more money than it knows how to spend in a federal budget surplus that's got forty five million dollars to tell you about a program that you have nothing to do with, and another forty million dollars to tell you about tax cuts that you don't

have to apply for. It shows that their priorities are all about the politics, not about taking care of the people who desperately need the help. Now now, I know that generally speaking, when we raise issues, we have to come up with some sort of a solution for the issues, because then we all feel better that the thing we raised as a problem is going to get better. My appeal is to anyone with access or power to talking to those who are making the decisions. Ask them, why

can't you find more money for charity? Now? Why do so many Australians have to donate to make things better? Now? Again, I'm fine with the tax system that says if you're lucky enough and you work hard enough, and you get to a certain number, then they take more and more and more until eventually they take half. And I'm fine if that has a many care system and that has a defense system, but it also should have a social

safety there. The social safety net is broken if a government that is so rich with hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue that they can't crack off forty five million dollars to help the people who are queuing for food right now. Instead, the priority is their own political survival. Think about that every time you see those ads and where the money should really be going. You may have noticed the media is slightly freaking out. In the past

twenty four hours. Opposition leader Peter Dutton insists Australians will know the cost of his nuclear power plan before the next election.

have to honor that promise. Instead they're papering over it with twenty five dollars a month credits which go to

every mansion and one bedroom house in the country. But of course that wasn't just the only outrage that the media had about the latest position from Peter Duddon, because what scares them more than anything else is the comfortable relationship they have with the government that they like, that gives them all of the information that they want, that generally speaking does them more favors than a conservative government would.

So of course there's a freak out when anyone talks about cutting immigration, even though both sides of politics have told us they're going to cut immigration. Apparently Peter Dudden was the one they had to freak out about because his cuts were going to go deeper. Remember lefty Laura ti Ingle, who of course is able to now completely be objective in her observations of Peter Dutton's nucular policy.

what happens. Well, of course that was going to cause racial division in the streets, wasn't it, Laura for a major.

long gone. But immigration, Chinese popp in and you get it right, Lots has happened in the past six months a six weeks. Well, guess what's also happened in the past six weeks. The Australian public agrees with what Peter Duddin had to say about foreign buyers, specifically Chinese buyers. Now, before you think this is some sort of right wing thing tank that produced a horribly dog whistling racist commentary, it comes from the far right wing institution known as

the University of Technology in Sydney. Anyone who knows this institution knows, oh it is urso work. Anyone who knows its media program knows, oh wow, even Radio National is a little too right wing for them. But anyway, let's read eighty three percent repeat, eighty three percent of Australians believe the government should restrict the amount of investment in

residential real estate that has permitted from Chinese investors. Bang oh, but my confern is that when somebody looks different, everyone's going to start turning on them in auctions. No, they just want people here to be able to compete for their own real estate, and not investors representing money overseas, not people from China who've had kids here, but people representing the people whose money is all completely coming from overseas.

This comes from the University of Technology, Sydney's Australia China Relations Institute. So hardly again, big right wing think tank. A clear majority eighty percent of Australians agree with the statement that foreign buyers from China drive up housing prices, a seven point increase from the seventy three percent same time last year, and basically where we were at the height of the pandemic when things were going particularly crazy in twenty and twenty one, when it was eighty two

percent of people. Meantime, just under three quarters of people seventy four percent. So the Chinese investors have negatively affected the rental market for residential real estate in Australia, which is a four year high on that survey. So two things to learn here. Every time the lefty media, particularly freaks out about any policy don't takes that will apparently turn Australians on each other and start fisty cuffs in

the streets, it's not true. Remember his position when it came to the Voice was he was backing no when it was forty percent of the poles. It ended up being sixty percent of the Poles. Their fantasy that this would somehow drive people to some sort of riot at an auction, well guess what it's where eighty percent of the Australian public is, particularly with investors coming from China. Will it be the same for nuclear power? We'll all

have to learn together. But if the lefties are losing it, then probably Dutton is on the right path, which brings us, of course to some exclusive footage that we have for you this se eveving. I don't know if we can get the little bug thing to say exclusive Outdare or the breaking news thing, but I don't know. We'll see. As you know, the Prime Minister gets onto a plane that apparently he's nicknamed after his dog called Toto. Oh, Toto, so amazing. Did you know that he grew up in

social single parent. Oh, it's such an incredible story. Well, we've actually got some footage from inside Toto one, the Prime Minister's plane when the announcement was made that Peter Dutton was going all in on nuclear power. Can we roll the tape exclusive? I love that movie leak two Flying Eyes awesome. Now an example of the freak out once they were able to put the tie on. Was this stuff in the past couple of days?

more renewable energy. So hang on, hang on, Peter Dunton's now the reason why we're not going to get to two hundred and seventy five dollars Now, hang on. Peter Dunton is opposite leader and can have whatever policy that he wants in the Australian people will vote on it at the end of this year or early next year. We'll see what happens. But right now, the law of the land is the Labor Party's policy with the Greens

help in the Senate. They are the ones who are putting tens of billions of dollars, frankly, hundreds of billions of dollars into the system that used to work pretty well to the one that fingers Cross will work into the future, with even more money to come after that. And supposedly we were going to see power bills remember down by twoenty twenty five, by two hundred and seventy five dollars. But now the reason that won't happen is

because Peddy Dutton has disrupted the certainty. Well, no, the certainty only gets busted if the Australian people endorse the policy, if they give him enough votes in the lower House to get it to happen, and a path through the

Senate to make it happen. So WA's the spin here from the Prime Minister trying to pretend that the other guy's policy that is not the law of the land is the reason why your policy that is the law of the land won't do what you promised it would do when you were the opposition leader.

call him out on that lie. Why because they're the same people who haven't called him out on the two seventy five lie. One because they think, oh, well, the three hundred dollars that's only going to be twelve months and twenty five dollars increments for one year. That solves the problem, doesn't it. No, the promise was the power bill from May would come down by two hundred and seventy five dollars by twenty twenty five and it would

stay that low. Right now, I know they're not making promises about two thousand and thirty five and forty five, But the promise in two thousand and twenty five was that it was naturally coming down by two hundred and seventy five dollars. But you and I both know it went up by hundreds of dollars, and even if it slightly comes down, it's still way about where it was in May of twenty twenty two. The other thing here, and again, I don't know how it's going to politically

work out, but you constantly hear people talk about the CSIRO. Well, okay, cool, Yes, the CSIRO has put out a report which does say what the certain cost may be about putting in mid or large scale nuclear reactors. Okay, not pretending that's not the case. In fact, let me read directly here, building a large scale nuclear power planted in Australia would cost at least eight point five billion dollars, take fifteen years to deliver, and produce electricity roughly twice the cost of

renewable sources. From the country's leading scientific institution. That's what they found. Okay, cool, Again, not pretending, not faking the numbers, just showing you the day so we can have our opinion on top of it. Trying to arm you with some of the discussions that you can have inside around a heater if you can afford it over this weekend. But you know what, all of the same people who constantly point to the CSIRO as the ultimate authority on

how expensive this technology is. All failed to miss is that the CSIRO has also told us what the actual cost of the renewable revolution is going to be. So remember eight point five billion dollars for the nuclear reactor. Okay for the one power plant. Now, I remember I showed you a document many many times since twenty seventeen that said the cost of renewables was going to cost one t trillion dollars. Well, the CSIRO, now that they're all on board, and we've got to get that talking

point off the table. But still they did their sums and they came up with a new number, the Bowen and Albow and the certainty greens plan. Let's have a look. It'll now cost five hundred billion dollars. So I'm not great at maths. Building a large goal nuclear reactor would

cost eight point five billion dollars. The current estimate from the CSIRO for a full transition to renewables is five hundred b for billion dollars repeat, building the renewables, changing the transmission lines, building the batteries, five hundred billion dollars. CSIRO numbers this year, same report this year would say that if you had seven nuclear power plants that would cost sixty billion dollars. Now, obviously some other upgrades would have to happen. So let's say one hundred let's say

two hundred billion dollars. That's still three hundred billion dollars lower than the renewable number. Yet nobody seems to point it out. Again, I'm showing you the numbers from the CSIRO. Now, let's imagine that there was again a huge cost blowout to one hundred billion dollars or two hundred billion dollars.

It's still below the five hundred billion. But I can't wait for the smart alecks to turn around and say, well, hang on, you forgot the indices on page seven hundred and twenty six, because seven hundred and twenty six shows that we can make it up as we go along. If one of the talking points of the left is you can't build it because it's too expensive, well the one they're building is more expensive. And also in terms

of how all of this gets funded. Oh but it's a private sector that will spend most of that five hundred billion. Paul, okay, so what about the taxpayer money again costing about sixty billion dollars to build all of those power plants that petted upon wants versus the sixty two billion dollars that is currently off budget in the same way they funded the NBN, which is exactly the same way that they would fund the nuclear power plants.

Is exactly the pocket of money that Chris Bowen has to go off and do deal after deal after deal after deal. And as you know, there's been plenty of peop that have noticed the response that has come from labor MPs near and far, and no doubt the left wing media analysts will turn around and say, well, hang on, you were fine with the memes in the twenty nineteen election, and you were fine with the no campaign. What's wrong with a little bit of a creative meming from the

left like the three eyed blinky Bill. Well, of course, you can make your point however you want to. The only problem is is that what was it that this government said about what they believed to be clearly misleading information.

hundred if you want see how that conversation goes this weekend. Now, I've got some big news for you, and I want to get into some detail here about, of course, the American presidential election. Now, most people, if you ask them to think, oh, well, Trump's going to win. Why because this.

the numbers. Yet they believe that Trump is winning according to those polls just in Wisconsin, but a pretty big margin in Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Carolina, North Carolina, Nevada, and again just in front in Michigan. Now, let's imagine if Biden wins two of those seats or states, but Trump won all the rest, then Trump would of course be

the president. Well, there is a change. It does not fill me with great joy to tell you, but I want you to do with facts and not wake up like a Hillary Clinton support going well, one of two outcomes could happen. This is the latest national poll from Fox News.

swing states. Polly currently good for Trump, but the issues are also pretty good for Donald Trump. Right now, again more from the Fox News poll. So, if the election is about the issues that are strong for Biden, Biden wins. If the issues are the ones that Trump is strong on, Trump wins.

is deep underwater. On the economy, inflation, immigration, and the Israel Hamas war.

all learn together. But one thing that is absolutely freaking out the left black voters, because they are supposed to always vote democratic. Right, Remember what did Joe Biden say, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black. Well, a few people who are aren't going.

You can always send me an email Paul at skynews dot com dot are you, and a reminder we're going to be McGregor in Brisbane, not this but next Sunday. If you'd like to join us for ourtown, send me an email which is our town at skynews dot com dot A. You don't send it anywhere else, just to that one our town or one word at skynews dot com dot A. You come on, Brizzie. You know how much I love Queensland and I'd love to hang out with you, so apply. It's pretty easy, it's free. We'll

let most people in. Just no looney lefties and you can enjoin us next Sunday again, none of that here with Henry Pike and Christin Abram. I'd love to see you both. Of course, we've got Henry of course, the liberal MP, and well the libertarian lovely one from Melbourne in Kristin. So let's talk here about nuclear all right now, Christian,

I'm going to start with you. What do you think about the nature of the chat that we're starting to have here because the left is either freaking out saying, like the premiere of Victoria, we're all going to die, or it's really really expensive, even though the really expensive bit is what we're currently doing.

when we're talking about having reliable energy sources. For Australia and ensuring that we have low energy prices. So I'm glad that we're having a mature conversation about this for the first time in a really long time. But one thing that has surprised me in the last twenty four hours I've heard the Labor Party come out with I hate to say the word, but a little bit of misinformation. Well, I was wondering, do you have E. I know, do you have E Karran's number, because I'd like to give

her a call. I think there's some stuff she can be doing here.

do is they move around cost arguments. Right, they'll talk about the cost once it's built, not the cost of building it, and you can't dare compare that to where it is. But what about the p in today saying that we're basically the renewable power. The price drop because of renewables won't be able to be achieved because of what the opposition leader's policy is.

But ultimately, when you look at the people complaining about these safety issues that are apparently there with nuclear technology, these are the same people who are one hundred percent behind the Orchest Agreement and signing our sailors up to be in close quarters with nuclear reactors. So it's complete madness.

I've been out knocked on doors in my electorate today and i can tell you that I'd be very pleased to take to an election the idea of looking forward to what's actually in our national best interest and having a proper fully fledged debate along over due debate on nuclear power. I think the average austrained punter is going to be well and truly up for the challenge of having that debate, and I think they're going to come down on the side of Peter Dutton on this one.

the past day or so. Now again, Henry, I don't get how this is supposed to convince anyone. Like I thought they'd learnt their line, they'd learned they'd gone too far. When the snooker thing, just you know, when just all the traffic interruption, This is all ahead of course the summer solstice, the longest day of the year, which is dawning as we speak in the UK, and lots of people turn up there, I don't know, pray to the druids,

good luck to them. But who was supposed to be convinced by this, Like, who's a hardcore sort of you know, cold chomping person who thinks it's all bullshit. But somehow it's going to wake up and see this and go, well, thank you, you've made my point.

want resolutions to any of these problems. They're just about moral grandstanding.

a cause, showing your willingness to change public opinion. But then there's this particular vein of it, and it exists at the moment in amongst these doomsday cults around the end of the world, in the environment or on issues to do with the Middle East. Unless you're marching with them, than you are the enemy, which seems to be a little bit against the whole concept of democracy, which is

that you convince people over time. We have a vote every now and then you move forward or you move backward, and that's how it goes.

their lesson. I doubt it. They really They thrive off that notoriety and that attention.

to see where the data goes. We've got a debate in a weekend of its time next Friday, eleven am here on sky News. Looking forward to all of that, I'm doing something fun with Rita panehe In and around all of that, you'll see that at skynews dot com dot au. But all of those people who look at this all day every day say that it's getting tighter. What's your sense again of the media that you absorb.

Has anything changed or is this just a whole collection of people starting to look twice or as the lefty media say, a whole bunch of people starting to realize that democracy is on the line.

American politics. Also very interesting that they deliberately the left will not use the term illegal immigration. They just say immigration as if it's all the same thing, as if filling out the forms and waiting for the green card is the same as the bloke going through the rear grand who happens to buy the way come from China. I don't know why this is happening at the moment, but there seems to be a lot of it at

the moment. All right, got less than a minute here, so Henry, your winner or loser of the week please.

be doing the CEO sleep out now. I mentioned at the start of the show that cost of living means that we are wanting to give it to charities, but we don't quite have the money to give it to charities at the moment, which is why I made my point about government that maybe they should spend on charities, not just fluffing their own pillows when it comes to telling us through public information ads how amazing they are.

Maybe they could spend the forty five million or eighty million dollars and start to send that back the way of charities. Till that happens, people like two of our favorites here at Sky News on Palmori Live are doing their bit along with the others at the viny CEO sleepouts around the country, none other than our wonderful friends Joe hilde Brand and Linda Scott. It's Lefty loving right now. Hello everyone, the leftist have.

But Joe, one of the many things I love about the CEO's Sleepout is not just the money that's raised, but also the advocacy because no doubt tonight you would have met people where this is normal.

you're going to find secure housing. The really important thing or an event like this is when the participants all come and as soon as they arrive and you can see the newbies actually get quite shocked by this, basically plumped into a circle with someone who has actually gone through the ringer with homelessness, often domestic violence as well, or sorts of things I would never have experienced in their normal walk of life, and they hear those stories

firsthand and they're confronted with them, and it's often having done it myself in the past, it is often very very harrowing, very very moving, always very profound, and that's what keeps people coming back.

And the services we've had here in the city for many years, like the Matthew Towbot, you know, the incredible work Vinnis does is now needed right across Australia in so many other areas. So yeah, there's never been more demand on the services of Vinni's, but there's never been more an important time if people have a couple of dollars to chip in to support the great work that they do through the CEO. I sleep out tonight, Yeah see I sleep.

the people they're trying to raise money for. But do you also see scenarios where you end up talking to some of these people the next morning or maybe just before they go to sleep, and they start to go, Okay, I'm personally going to chip in more because it's one thing to raise money, but these people actually, now you know this, twelve hours is when they themselves they commit to the issue, not just tonight, but for the next twelve months.

going to take. And also, and again, even that just first immersive experience, you can't forget it, even if you tried to, so you do go back to your organizations or your communities and start to think about ways that you can help people. The other thing I find as well is that the people who vinis helps themselves. And I see this in all sorts of charities that I've been lucky enough to work with. They almost always end up helping other people once they themselves have got back

on their feet. So it's this credit we talk a lot about, you know, you know, renewable s, thestateable energy. For me, there's like a perpetual engine that just keeps on giving. You help someone, they get back on their feet, they help the next person who's down to get back on there. So it's an incredible thing to behold.

and hanging around the hat tomorrow. You know, these little things do make a difference. And when you think about as you have all night to think here how cold it is and how awful it is, just for one night. And we met a woman tonight who was sleeping rough for five months. She's a young woman. You know, this is a terrible life. No one deserves that.