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Paul Murray Live | 20 Feburary

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Chinese warships in show of force off coast of Sydney,Tony Burke slammed for pre-election Western Sydney citizenship blitz. Plus, Alex Ryvchin outlines plan of action to defeat crisis of hate after political, community leaders discuss solutions.

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Speaker 1

From the Skying Center. This is Paul Burry Live Well One Cherry and if everyone involved in what was an extraordinary day to watch on television, imagine what have we been to be there inside of the synagogue. Congrats to everyone involved again all the highlights, please go and watch them at skynews dot com dot au. Welcome to man Cave. Locks to get to tonight, including not a great picture

when it came to unemployment today. There's a lot of devil in the detail and I will get to that in a moment or two's time, as well as why is there a big rush of citizenship ceremonies that are happening around town. Lots of local mayors think something is weird. I'll get to what the minister is saying about what is going on in a moment or two time, and of course I will have my reflections on again what was an incredible day at that incredible summit put together

by some incredible people. But I'm going to start with something that I have to tell you is going to be potentially distressing, that is difficult to watch, and it is new that probably you have not heard until this moment now because of the events that happen in our own country and around the world. When you take a sick kid to hospital, there's this incredible feeling when you walk through the sliding doors. When you walk through that you feel I have passed a threshold and we are

on our way towards treatment and recovery. We're on our way to things getting better, not things getting worse. The reality of life is that for some people it does and for some kids it's a point of no return. There is a family in Sydney that is mourning the loss of their little boy, a little two year old

boy named Joe Massa. His parents, Eloise and Danny, have spoken publicly today about what happened because a review into the treatment of their son has been scathing about the failures at a hospital on the northern beaches of Sydney.

Speaker 2

He's gone blind, like his eyes are rolling to the back of his head. It is not my boy anymore. He is literally dying. He is just deteriorating in my arms. I was pacing around the emergency department, still not given a bed, just saying, look, he's opened up, breathing, He's going in and out of consciousness. We need to do more. He died a cruel death at the hands of a hospital that failed him.

Speaker 1

Poor little man in that poor family. Let me tell you a little bit about the decisions that were made that led to the lack of treatment that led to this little man having a heart attack and dying. They presented in the morning with a boy who had clearly lost an awful lot of fluids and his heart rate was just thumping out of his little chest at one hundred and ninety seven beats per minute. He should have been treated within ten minutes. Instead, they moved through the

emergency queue at thirty minutes. There was two more hours before he got a bed, and eventually, as I say, it was a heart attack that ended up dying off because his system could not cope with the amount of

fluid that he had lost. The central and fatal flaw in his treatment was that he was denied, not forgotten, but denied an IV drip that would have replaced the fluids, that would have stabilized his body, that would have saved him from the heart attack, and for all intents and purposes, would have meant that it may have been a difficult couple of days rather than the end of viital life. Now, I understand that the healthcare system cannot provide perfect results.

Not everyone who passes through that threshold when you're panicked as a parent is going to end up with their kid getting better. But so many things went wrong here, so many things. His mum and dad were trying to tell them, please give him the IV. Why haven't you

given him the IV? Can't you see what's happening? Is terrible? Well, the report, as I said, that was released today is again damning about the decisions not taken and the decision taken not to give him the fluids to stabilize his body to prevent the heart attack that meant he died. His parents, like any parents who have lost a kid, will never be the same. But the strength that they have shown today in their many media appearances to be the parents on the behalf of their son who is

no longer here is incredible. These moments are ones where, of course it's impossible to put one foot in front of the other until eventually you do, and then you walk, and then you stride. And they are using all the power that they possibly can to demand accountability, but to demand that this never happens again.

Speaker 3

They want a full parliamentary review. They also want a review of Northern Beaches Hospital. They are calling for urgent IT upgrades. They want the public private partnership with Healthscope that governs this hospital to be put under the microscope. Also investment in and wide enforcement of what's called the Reach program that would see parents alert to their rights and escalating their children's care on entry to any New South Wales hospital.

Speaker 1

We will follow the system and we will follow how it responds. For their part, the Premiere of New South Wales has said this about their situation.

Speaker 4

We won't rule anything out, including further inquiries. We take this incredibly seriously and I'm profoundly, profoundly sorry that this has happened. It's absolutely heartbreaking.

Speaker 1

As for the person who will have even greater responsibility here, this is what the Health Minister had to say today. They've got some questions to answer. I'll be very honest about it. A health system has let this family down in the absolute worst way possible. Now I understand the need for him to say things like let them down. They didn't, they betrayed them. And I feel exactly the same emotions that you do right now as our hearts sink for the little man sink, for his mum and dad,

for his grandparents, for everyone around them. I offer nothing but strength and love to this family, but also a promise that we will use our platform if they, in any way, shape or form, need to keep nudging the system. It is a horrible thing that took place. It is a distressing thing to talk about at the start of the show. It is not normally how I would start a show, but on a day like this, when something we learn about is as bad as this, it's the

only way to start tonight's program. Now to some other issues, including of course China, and we know that their attitude towards Australia is back in your box. We know how they treated Australia when Australia had the temerity to try to ask questions about a global pandemic that killed thousands of people here and millions of people around the world.

We also know that they take a dark and dim view of Australia trying to do anything to defend ourselves against potentially what may be a threat at some point of China train to take Australia because Australia has chosen the side of freedom as opposed to theirs and the way that they run their country. Last night it was breaking news. We've had twenty four hours to think even more about it, but there were stories about Chinese warships who were very close to Sydney. Now they were still

in technically international waters. But why are Chinese warships needing any reason to be coming around the Australian coast. This stuff is so often minimized, pretending that it's normal when let's be honest, it ate it is a long way for them to travel, and for them to travel here specifically is an act of intimidation. Here's more that we know. Twenty four hours.

Speaker 5

Later Wednesday, the vessels were sailing east of Sydney and have entered the country's Exclusive Economic Zone, which is the area up to two hundred nautical miles from the coast. The group includes a free get, a cruiser and a replenishment vessel. A Defense Department spokesperson said in a statement that it was routine for the Australian military to monitor traffic in the Exclusive Economic Zone and any maritime approaches.

Speaker 1

Now, of course we know when it comes to this Prime Minister, he will not speak with the shaking thunder that he does towards political opponents in this country who deny him what he believes to be either his place in history when it comes to things like referendums or bills passing through the parliament.

Speaker 6

No.

Speaker 1

Instead, of course, with China, it was about backing off. The more we back off, the closer they let us in, the more trade that can be done. And the message goes back to the more than one and almost one and a half million voters with an interest in what happens back in China because of family. Well, the message keeps coming through that there's a way to do it

and there's a way not to do it. Now, we've seen plenty of times that the Prime Minister has shown a thundering emotion when he wants to How do you think the Prime Minister should react when Chinese vessels are trying to intimidate Australia and they are off the coast of Sydney. I don't think this is enough from the Prime Minister, But maybe I'm a hard marker.

Speaker 7

Just wonder more on Chinese tavy ship So you're worried about them of Sydney?

Speaker 8

No, Well, the Chinese noble ships are complying within a national law. But as we do, we're I'm monitoring the situation and observing what is going on as you would expect.

Speaker 1

No, now again, I don't want the Prime Minister to start using this type of language that will lead to a conflict. But surely you'd have a more passionate response. He of course, was annoyed because it distracted from the thing he wanted to talk about today, which was even more money going towards trying to get towards green hydrogen. I'm glad that the good people of Wyala and their jobs are going to be protected, but that's what he

wanted to talk about today. He didn't want to dare talk about China a little bit like remember when we've had previous examples when Chinese jets throw a whole bunch of garbage into the air that could well down an Australian jet. But didn't know about that until after the Prime Minister had returned from an APEC meeting where he's shaking hands with the Chinese president. Because we couldn't air upset the Chinese establishment. Thankfully, there is an alternative, an

alternative approach. And Andrew Hasty would be the Defense Minister in a potential alternative government led by Peter Dutton. Compare the pair, as they say.

Speaker 9

This is gun boat diplomacy designed to test our alliance with the United States.

Speaker 1

Yeah, pretty disgraceful, Pretty disgraceful. All right, let's get to the jobs now scenario, where let's have a chat about the unemployment numbers that have come on today. They show us that, yes, the unemployment rate is slightly up. But let's compare things to of course, the government that wants to tell you everything's great now compared to when they first took over. Well, the unemployment rate in the early months of the Prime ministership of Anthony Alberaneze was three

point five percent. It is now four point one percent. Twenty three thousand people lost their job in January. More people ended up being able to get a job, but twenty three thousand people lost their job in the month of January. According to the ABS, forty four thousand people found a job in January. Twenty three thousand people became unemployed.

But there's always data inside the data. They're generally speaking, they don't cover on the six PM news because they think, oh, one fact every four minutes, please the rest of it just adjectives and emotion. The unde employment rate. Now, remember in Australia, to be counted as an employed person and you have to work for just one hour a week, so six percent currently are under employed for minutes five percent. But have a look at that percentage when it comes

to women. And then remember when Anthony Abernezi made quite the noise and the lead up to the last election, and we remember because we were all there, that people having to work more than one job to make ends meet was a sign of how tough people were doing it well. In March of twenty twenty two it was eight hundred and fifty six thousand people. It is now

nine hundred and eighty six thousand people. Those were the latest numbers which were at leased very late last year, and people are noticing the great gulf between the numbers that may be released in Canberra, the reality on the

ground and the numbers within the numbers. As the Prime Minister and Treasurer pat themselves on the back getting ready to go into this election, one of the economics writers at the Channel nine newspapers made a good point about productivity that this is a real problem for Australia right now. Put simply, if life is a highway, then Australia is stuck in second year. I even liked the sort of

AI image that they came up with. I don't understand why Peter Dutton, who's not in a decision making position, is put there, because obviously we couldn't dare upset the dear Prime Minister. But there it is. Anyway, We've become a Volkswagen bus, as some fly past in their Lamborghinis. Nations such as the United States, Germany, Belgium and Spain have all improved their productivity levels over the past couple

of years, but Australia has gone backwards. He offers an example that was quoted by the Productivity Commission, and that is about building a house. About how long it now takes to build a house in a quarter of the way into the twenty first century versus a little while ago. A decade ago, the average time it took to build a detached house for six point four months. It is now ten point four months. The time to build a new townhouse gone from nine point four to twelve point nine.

An apartment block has gone from eighteen months to now twenty seven months. He concludes his piece Shane right today that if we continue down the economic freeway at the current pace, we will never reach our preferred destination and our kids, stuck in the back seat of the Australian Jealopy, will be asking the perpetual question aren't we there yet? A lot of people have just become citizens of Australia

and will in the next couple of days now. The Daily Telegraph today had the story that Tony Burke has taken citizenship ceremonies out of the hands of many local councils and is pumping hundreds of people, nay thousands of people who will become full fledged Australian citizens in the next couple of days. The Daily Telegraph can reveal that mister Burke's department has gone on an industrial style, industrial scale

citizenship ex travaganza. Remember, all of this is full voting rights to give twelve and a half thousand new Australians, says citizenship papers in time to vote at the upcoming election. Western Sydney mayors are furious on Thursday that mister Burke's department took the upcoming ceremonies out of their hands to confer citizenship. On six thousand people over the past couple of days at Sydney Olympic Park. Now, for their part, the Minister and his department have said that these are

people who have been waiting for many years. It is not a rushing of people who have recently come to the country as a result of the issues in the Middle East. But Peter Dutton had this to say today on the matter of this many people getting pushed through just in time for an election.

Speaker 9

Tony Burke is spending today and the rest of this week, as I understand it, conducting as many citizenship ceremonies as you can, literally putting thousands of people through an express citizenship process so that they can in the election within a few weeks, which I think is quite remarkable. And I just question whether there has been any slackening of the process, whether there has been any compromise on the security checks.

Speaker 1

The Minister in his office are offended at the suggestion, and again via more friendly media have put forward the idea that all of this is about clearing a backlog. Nicholas Rees is the Lord Mayor of Melbourne. He too has been a citizenship ceremonies today. I just will ask him straight up if there's anything different, different timing, why are things being rushed on at this moment. If he has an answer, we'll all find out together, because he

is here this evening for tonight's debate. Now I have the same moral clarity tonight as I did when we learned of the October seven attacks back in twenty twenty three, the same moral clarity about the evil of Hamas, about the disgrace of those amongst us who celebrate, celebrate what took place on that horrible day, the many failures in

and around that opera house protest. Still so few people have been held account And it's wonderful that politicians want to say sorry, but hang on, you saw it coming. Your police forces were the same ones who turned around and said that they were overwhelmed. Your same police forces have hardly been handing out the same level of charges in relation to people at that event, which obviously was about intimidating Australia's Jewish community as they mourned their dead

on that day. Now I say I have that same moral clarity tonight because, as you will have heard both with Shari and with Andrew before her, Hamas has returned the remains of a murdered mother and murdered children, but they chose to do so in the full glare of the media. How can you not view this as the parading of their bodies Previously, the people that have stood on that stage are people who have been able to

return to their families. A dead family being returned to a man who had left their captivity a couple of weeks ago reminds us of the rights and wrongs in this situation. Now, it is true that I do not talk about the situation in the Middle East every night. There are many weeks that can pass before I remark about what is happening on the other side of the world. But I don't want anyone to ever think that that

is a way of ignoring it. No, it's because there are other hosts, other programs that frankly cover it better than I could, better than I can, with a greater insight into what is taking place. But I've also, over the many months, spoken about a human toll on both sides of this situation. For that, I receive some criticism,

but I stand by it. But I want to be very clear tonight that I have the same moral clarity about the barbarism and the evil that is harmas as I did on the day they chose to attack on October seventh, because they paraded the bodies of a dead mother and her kids. Today, as you know, is the Anti Semitism Summit which took place on behalf of Sky

News in the Great Synagogue in Sydney. Incredible speeches, and what I liked the most was that this was about discussing how to deal with things into the future, as opposed to speaking endlessly about the barbarism of what took place on that horrific day. In the many many months since, I'm proud that I work for an organization that had the moral clarity to host what they hosted. I am proud of the people who spoke, and I am proud of the relentlessness of the focus in and around anti

Semitism that many people have had on the air. Again, just in case there's any doubt in anyone's mind, just because I don't lead the show with it or I don't talk about it every couple of weeks does not mean I am not absolutely aware of the rights and wrongs here. I wish nothing but strength to the hand

of law enforcement to deal with this horrific behavior. And I wish nothing more than a country that people are born into or that they come to, is the one that they love more than whatever historic connections people have to the conflicts, with all of its complications, all of its difficulties, all of its heartbreak. On other sides of the world, you have a chance to reach art your

life in a country like this. It is something that we assume is the case for anyone who comes to the country, but for too many they seek to punish those who have a connection to another country. It is not acceptable, it is not appropriate, and many of the speeches were quite phenomenal. Today now it cannot go without saying that all and many. In fact, the majority of the anti Semitic attacks have been happening in New South Wales have been happening in Sydney, and that is under

the watch of the New Southwil's premiere. And while they need to do more, it is good to hear again moral clarity from the people who have the capacity to change laws and focus our police.

Speaker 4

It was appalling to see the hateful scenes on the steps of the Sydney Opera House one day after October seventh, and I can tell you. I'm deeply ashamed that it happened under my watch as premier of this state.

Speaker 1

Now what I also really liked about the summit, and I watched it in its entirety. I want you to be able to do so by going to skynews dot com dot au. Also check out all of the supplementary channels depending on how you watch us, be a Flash or Foxtel, or there'll be plenty of stuff up on YouTube as well. I like that this was forward looking. I liked that this was about a series of key points and a plan for action about how to take these things on. Now. There were multiple these are the

ones that stood out to me. That there should be a declaration of a national emergency on antisemitism. This would trigger a collection of things in and around a joint counter Terrorism Task Force. That we should have uniform policing guidelines, including training for law enforcement officials and understanding antisemitism and how hate crimes should be prosecuted. That anti Semitism education should be included into the national curriculum. Justice. Michael Lee's

speeching and around that was fascinating. There should be more public awareness and advertising campaigns, particularly towards younger Australians aimed at debunking the ideology of antisemitism. There should be a national ban on encampments at Australing universities, as well as prohibiting the disruption of lectures by protests. There should be a creation of a judicial inquiry into antisemitism at our universities.

There should be a repeal of charity status and funding from religious or charitable institutions if they promote racism or display terrorist symbols. And finally that the Migration Act should be enforced or amended to ensure that antisemitic conduct is a grounds to reject a new visl or cancel and existing one. It is complicated. It is difficult for those of us that have been lucky enough to be born here and not to have the weight of the connections

back to this difficult part of the world. There are times when yep, we're aware of it, but there are other things that will come across our plate. But well done to everyone involved in what happened today, and to anyone who wants to practice this sort of garbage. You are not amongst us, you are not for us. And I look forward to any and every way that this garbage can be rid. Now let's talk about local government here, particularly the Casey Council which is on the outskirts of Melbourne.

Now this happened a couple of days ago, so forgive me. I've had a lot in the intray this week and I wanted to get this done before we go off to Batement's Bay on Sunday Monday and then off to Vegas. Baby well, police police needed to be called by the council because they are afraid of their rate players. What rubbish,

What absolute crap. Now, this council, which has been run by an administrator, an unelected person as opposed to an elected mayor or council for the past few years, has made some ridiculous decision, including ones where people are being told that they need a permit where they need to pay for the right to be able to store an old boat or a car that you're fixing up in your front yard. Now, of course, it's just another money grab from a council that won't cut its own wings,

no doubt. If I went onto their jobs vacant tonight and I did the same thing I do every time these stories, there'd be plenty of examples of a stupid amount of money being spent on things where they don't need to go off and try to introduce fines or licenses for you to be able to have a car up on the blocks because you're going to slowly strip it down for small parts and spare parts, because the one you've actually been tinkering with is your dream project

and that's been in the garage for the past five or six years. God forbid, that's what people want to do with their days. I'm sick of this sort of snobbery that there's a certain type of Australian activity that's acceptable. There's a certain sort of thing that is approved of or not approved of by the ear oh so lovely ones about what you can do with your land. Paul Dowsley is the report from Channel seven, who will explain part of what this is all about.

Speaker 10

The meeting was adjourned then abandoned as residents raged about controversial by laws requiring paid permits for residents to keep some vehicles on their properties, which prompted the seizure of three cars from one property.

Speaker 1

I know a caravan, a caravan under the car port. That's not interfering, but it's not parked out in the street. Now, I get it. There are some people who think you can park whatever you want out in the front of your house, like out on the road. Well, guess what, that's public. I can just whack it on them. At No, we're talking about people in their own zone of property. Now there's also a decision about a tip in and

around the area. And guess what the locals had had enough at computer, theft NAE, computer, theF NAE or politicians who want to pretend, oh, I'm not really our fault, despite the fact of course it's their responsibility.

Speaker 10

Rowdy rate payers hit back face to face with the council. They say, isn't listening. The angry confrontation erupted last night of the City of Casey officers in Narry Warren. New mayor Stephen Kerman shouted down repeatedly heckled, please remain seated, Please remain quiet. Police called to escort counselors from the room.

Speaker 1

What garbage call the police. They're hardly surging towards the counselors. They're standing up and saying boom. It will not surprise you that the mayor will have no interest in talking to Paul or any of the other media.

Speaker 10

After this thing, the new mayor wouldn't speak on camera today, instead releasing a statement saying he was incredibly disappointed with last night's threatening behavior, adding I Understan there is a real frustration over the past five years under administration. We're looking forward to listening and representing our community. However, last night's behavior is not the way to go about this.

Speaker 1

Just talking to people in this way just it's not the way, like as if they're the school principal speaking to sort of a kid mucking up in year five. These people pay their rates, they've bought their house, they're paying off the house, they're renting the house. Leave them alone, goodness sake. Now, I told you that we would have something in a couple of days in and around the North Queensland flood situation, and we have had plenty of people get in touch with us about the problems they

are having with insurance companies. Now, Lauren Forbes is the reporter who was there when the rain was coming down, when the flood waters were taking their toll, and she now returns to this story about insurance companies screwing the very people over who should be getting maximum help because they've paid for it.

Speaker 11

Ingham is still homes gutted, businesses and farms wiped out, as many are left wondering how they'll recover.

Speaker 6

As things are clearing and the weeks are passing, I guess it comes to light that people are still struggling with that emotional financial impact of the disaster.

Speaker 11

For Marian's brother, Vince Blanco, the disaster has been life changing. His cane farm, passed down from his father, was swallowed by floodwaters. His belongings left as a pile on the roadside, basically lost everything, and it's how to rebuild that without any funding, without any support. It was only after the event that Vince discovered his insurance doesn't cover floods and he doesn't have the means to pay off a disaster assistance loan.

Speaker 6

My brother wasn't aware that it wasn't included in his package, So I guess from that perspective, it's you know, it's devastating.

Speaker 11

It's a problem many far in the region of facing any.

Speaker 7

Home and content policy that forms part of a broader farm insurance policy, they tend not to have flood cover. So it's not that it's just not available. Insurance just aren't offering it.

Speaker 11

And for those who can access it, skyrocketing premiums mean full coverage is often out of reach.

Speaker 7

People can't afford to ensure their house for the full replacement value, so they've ensured it for what they can. So an example, you've got the house that the rebuild costs of this house is say eight hundred thousand dollars in today's money to completely level it and rebuild it as it was. People are ensuring them for three hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 11

So far, more than seven thousand, one hundred insurance claims have been made in North Queensland. In the hinton Brookshire there's been nearly one thousand home claims lodged, two hundred and eighty two for vehicles and one hundred and sixty one for businesses. But the cyclone reinsurance pool, which is meant to bring premiums down, wasn't activated.

Speaker 12

We're not seeing any benefit coming through it now. We've had two cyclones in the last twelve months and luckily fortunately there was no extensive damage or anything of that nature, and we're very grateful that. But people who did make a claim you are saying, well, there really is no different.

Speaker 11

Hinchinbrookshire and Mayor Raymond jo says funding for this disaster has fallen short compared to past events.

Speaker 12

All the industry bodies and all the business associations that are telling us that they require further assistance. One of the other issues that there's also emerging is that, you know, due to the high cost of living, there's a lot of pressure in that regard, so you know, just just the material costs and the labor costs and all that have risen exponentially.

Speaker 11

He's calling for action before the next disaster, pushing for government red tape to be removed to clear waterways.

Speaker 12

You know, our inability to clean our streams, our streams that are out of the water. Once it comes out of the river, it's got to get to the ocean, and it's got to go through.

Speaker 1

The mangrove interface.

Speaker 12

And we've been really struggling over the past eight years to get permits and approvals to go in there.

Speaker 11

And clean as the regent bands together to rebuild locals, so calling out for more support. Lauren Forbes Sky News.

Speaker 1

Good on you, Lauren, and thank you for making that for us. Well done. Know everyone who was reaching out, if you want to at any time, We'll do what we can for you. Polotskynews dot com dot AU, Poulotsgynews dot com dot A. You quick break back with more, looking forward to Nicholas Rees joining us, Lisa god Art as well, who's the winter and Loser of the week, and some big ideas about well going after graffiti in the great city of Melbourne, But so much more than that.

Thanks for watching this Thursday night, Hey, thank you so much for watching. Now we have got a massive mixed sort of week and a bit here on the show. Obviously our town on Sunday night, Bateman's Bay cannot wait, really beautiful part of Australia. Looking forward to celebrating and doing a whole bunch of really cool stuff, really cool stuff.

Monday night is going to be the first of our pub tests, where of course it is the people of the area that are able to ask their local candidates whatever they want, all right, we don't stand in the way of that process. It's really cool sort of politics in the pub with TV cameras all the rest of it. And then we're off to Las Vegas where we're going to be just absolutely responsible and folk. Now we're there to celebrate rugby league and the fact that the start

of the rugby league season is there. Can't wait. We're going to talk to players and coaches and tell you the fun, show you some of the stuff of the city that I know like the back of my hand, you know, like I know the Gold Coast with my eyes closed, and I know Vegas like the back of my hand. Right, So we'll show you some of that fun stuff. But I wanted to also say our plan while we are overseas is we are still going to

keep doing Australian political conversation. Okay, You're still going to get the editorial, You're still going to get the guests, plus all of the fun in and around it. Okay, So stay for the met all right, and enjoy the sizzle that's going to be around it. The same two for the pub test and for our town. We will

be right across all of the stuff. And if anyone's got used to our Sunday night hardcore shows, well I will make sure that you get to hear it all first, and then as you start to hear it across the rest of the week and go hang on. Paul talked about that on Sunday All right, let's get to this right now with Well, it's been too long. Nicholas rees Is, of course the Lord Mayor, the Lord Mayor of Melbourne.

He's got the little badge, he's got the you know, he's got the chains, he's got the moon but kings. He's there joining us in Melbourne. And the wonderful Lisa Goddard who just you know, with that smile, she can do whatever the hell she wants in Brisbane and beautiful Queensland. All right, let's get to this here, Nick. I want to talk about an idea which was one we talked

about when you were campaigning. Now it's action, which is, guess what if you do graffiti in the beautiful streets of Melbourne, not the lane ways where they sometimes let you, but the place is where they don't let you do it, what's going to happen?

Speaker 13

Well, Paul, you back on the show mate. You're right, it has been too long, and your memory is good. You will recall I came on the program prior to the election. I said, if I'm elected, no one's going to go harder on city safety and city cleaning than me. And that's what I am damn well doing. So in terms of city cleaning, got a whole new fleet of vehicles out there. We throw out the old clapped out vacuum cleaner, we brought in the high powered dison cleaning

the streets up with new vehicles. And then we're going really, really hard using all the powers available to us to ensure that if you spray, you pay the City of Melbourne. So we will take an activist approach in the courts. We will send legal representation from the City of Melbourne and pursue vandals the taggers for cost orders for the

damage that they're causing. We will also work with the state government because they need their help on this to make sure that people clean up their mess and they do it in the area where they create it. So I've got it issue in Melbourne where people come in from the suburbs tag and deface the central city and then if the courts do catch up with them, they do their time, they're clean up out in the suburbs. I want them to come into the city and clean

up the damn well mess that they created. Third thing we're going to do is, and this sounds like a small thing, but it's really important, is we're going to put in victim impact statements on behalf of property owners properties damage as well as the community. This idea that tagging vandalism is a victimless crime.

Speaker 1

It's not.

Speaker 13

We're paying for it, ratepayers, taxpayers paying millions to clean it up, and the city, the community is suffering for loss in pride in our town, in our city. So I'm going hard, I set a would and I'm getting it done.

Speaker 1

See, Lisa, this is why we back him right. Like you know, we don't agree much on politics. Occasionally, you know, there might be a cross word every now and then about the big idea.

Speaker 13

We had some fun times over the years, Paul, Mrtray, We had some fun times.

Speaker 1

At any time you want to come in during the thirty three days of the election campaign, all bits are off there. There'll be no kid glass. You get right in there. That'll be fun. It's the invitation is always there. But it is extraordinary that again for Nick, and power to him. Right, we're a quarter of the way through the twenty first century, and that's when you have the leadership that's willing to do what Nick's willing to do.

Speaker 14

Here, Nicholas rees, congratulations and Hallelulia, may you lead the way for politicians who will actually do what they say they will do when they get into office, and may every mayor around this country actually listen to what you're doing and follow in your footpath. Because I did some research tonight Queensland aligned So if you look at Queensland Rail, it's over a million dollars a year just to clean up the graffiti on the trains alone. So you're right,

it's taxpayers. It's us rate payers who are paying to clean up this mess. And it's about time that the magistrates are held to account and they actually have these people in front of them charge and look, I know that what the finds Nicholas will way around seven hundred to eight hundred dollars of their court. So that's a problem. But we need to see the courts now backing you in.

Speaker 1

Can I get creative as well? Nick? I think the people who are guilty of this stuff should have to park your please for you you know, why not. Let's let's let just say as part of your you know, like when you drive into Melbourne, you know, you just turn around, you go into one of those parking stations and somewhere and no, no, no, I well, actually hand, I really shouldn't have thought that through otherwise, Yeah, they might anyway, anyway,

you get the idea, You get the idea. All right, let's talk here some basic moral principles here, isn't it Yeah, one hundred percent correct. All right, Let's talk about something which popped up at the ARC conference happening over in the United Kingdom, which is plenty of people talking about governments that grossly overspend for the here and now, which is always political, but of course the reality into the future is that they put their countries deeper into debt.

The harder it is to service that debt means well, you're not able to spend money on the things that they are paying tax for into the future. Perfect example about this, Lisa, would be say what the Queensland government with the credit rating in Queensland that's now been downgraded, which means it is more expensive to pay on the

stupid spending of the previous government. Good on Peter Costello for standing up today and saying here that governments have to rain in their spindings otherwise it's a problem for future generations.

Speaker 14

Well, and if you look at Queensland, Paul, it's spending to win votes, and look, it didn't work this time around, but we're still left with increased debt. So you're right, you just can't keep racking up and racking up the debt. I've heard you say it before your homeowners and anyone who sitting around with a credit card or a mortgage. You just can't overspend. You have to stay within that budget.

And the governments just simply aren't doing it. And if you look at what between twenty six and twenty seven, they're predicting that we'll have over a trillion dollars in gross debts. So when you look at what the interest rates are, interest payments are on that alone within four years, it's thirty five billion dollars in interest payments alone on our national debt. So they have to rein it in.

Unfortunately we're heading into a federal election. They'll be throwing around the sugar hits everywhere.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'm just double checking here, and the Stralian supporting legend has passed a message to Nick. I'll double check it because sometimes there might be the odd swear word in it, but I will gladly pass it on for you, great man. In a moment or two's time, all right, let's talk about Clyde Palmer here, Nick, so clide Palmer is able to operate under the old rules, not the new ones, which means he's of course in with his

new party. If he does the advertising spend and directs it message wise the way they did against Bill Shorten, that's really good for Peter Dutton. If it's bugging them all like they did in twenty twenty two, that ultimately ends up being good for Anthony Obernezi. So until you see the first ad, how do you feel about Palmer in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 13

I mean, look, I think his political strategies he's going to try and take the Donald Trump formula, roll it out here in Australia and he's going to go after Peter Dutton and the Liberals, so he doesn't think are conservative enough. I suspect he'll blow a whole lot of money, probably harm the electoral chances of the Liberal National Party and won't get much of an outcome. I mean, remember

that brilliant IKEA ad about Clive Palmer's campaign. They sort of had Clive Palmer one hundred million dollars one seat, IKEA one hundred dollars one seat. What delivers your better value. It's just a massive, massive waste of his money. Look at his money. And it's a democracy, so he's allowed to do it, sadly under the old rules. But look, I think it's going to be him trying to get everyone to look at him, and I'm not sure it's going to be a great thing for the voters of Australia.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean, Lisa, Look, the media companies love love Clive Palmer. Why because of course he's paying them right, so they're all very happy. But his message and what it is is going to be the indication of its effect when it comes to the election. Look, I think some of the poles are overcooked, saying you know Dunton and the Libs at seventy three seats. I don't think that's the case. I think the Freshwater one was a

little closer. We we're sort of talking about an exchange of Labor losing seven the Coalition winning ten, and that basically puts Labor in the position of the minority. That's where I think it's going to end up. But nothing is inevitable, and I certainly want a different outcome than that. But in these ads, he has an opportunity to punch harder than anyone else in the field. Now he's already

said that he's a direct about two genders. He's directed about many of the things that are quite trumpy in But obviously if he actually decides to aim at all at Anthony Albanezi, well then that's going to help Peter it Dutton, isn't it?

Speaker 14

Well it is, And look, in no way is this about Clive Palmer getting bums on seats in Parliament, because we know that's not going to happen. As Nicholas said, one hundred million dollars, He's got one Senate seats, so it's not about that. And look, as a aside, he then has to go and try and find these candidates, So I don't know where he's going to find those, but that's a whole other story. But you're right, this is about disruption. This is about him capturing that part

of Australia. There's watching what's happening in America and saying we want that here. And as much as everybody is pushing Peter Dutton at the moment, he isn't yet at that point and I don't know if he will get there. So what will fill avoid Clive Palmer all right, years ago he was already talking about nuclear and so now the coalition is caught up on uclear.

Speaker 1

A really good point.

Speaker 14

He'll now push, as you say, the two genders, so that will actually capture some of the voting electric out there. So he will hold those tough conversations, as you say, the challenging ones that everyone sort of says, don't want to say it out loud, He will say it and maybe that will push that public narrative and maybe that will push the coalition to come out harder.

Speaker 1

Yeah, we'll see. All right, take a quick break in a moment. Whom is the winner or loser of the week. These lovely people from different parts of the country with a love of this show and its viewers will tell us more than see. May I give a little plag to my favorite sport in Australia which of course supercars. Supercars is racing again new format where the first few rounds is one version of the championship, then there's a finals, the in Dua Cup. All of that. They're in Sydney

this weekend. The first race is actually going to be on a Friday. There's one on Saturday, and Sunday as well. What about that supercars going across the Harbor Bridge. You can check it all out Fox Sports channel five oh six, on Foxtel KO or anywhere else. And yes you'll hear me cheering on from Bateman's Bay. Cannot wait to watch it all. And good luck to Jess Mark and all of the team. Now let's get into the conversation right

now with Lisa Goddard. Adoni Media is her company in Brisbane and the company of strangers is what happens when you are the Lord Mayor of Melbourne, which means just you know, his flock are those he knows and does

not the wonderful Nicholas Race. So what about the Chief Justice or a significant Yeah, chief Justice in the Northern Territory today who well, I don't know whether they're blowing up or complaining, but basically saying the tough on crime approach of the new government, it's clogging up the courts. There's not enough room. I don't care, Lisa, Yeah.

Speaker 14

No nor do I. And look you had the chief bitterester from the Northern Territory on was it last week?

Speaker 1

Paul?

Speaker 14

Yes, she is incredible and she is one of the best I think in this country, because she's actually going out there and setting an agenda where she's saying, you know, safety matters. She wants the juvenile offenders particularly under control, and she doesn't care that she's got the police out there. The morale amongst the police force now is up because they're actually able to do their job and put these

alleged crems in front of the court. And I'm sorry if the court can't handle that and they think it's too busy for them, well that's not a problem that the general community who are out there dealing with the thugs who are beating them up, breaking into their homes, breaking into their businesses, will care about what they need to do. And thankfully somebody has extra money has gone into the prosecution and into the defenders for the people

who can't afford lawyers. However, they need to now look at what's happening with the presents. That's their next sort of pressure point, making sure that they've got places to put these alleged defenders.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and look, they should be stayed run, not privatized. Not a huge fan of privatized to prisons. A lot of issues in around that around the world, nick one last one we go here, which is George the Fifth's statue. The head was ripped off, the head turned it up on a barbecue. Some smart ass somewhere thinking this is some sort of wonderful point to be made. But these statues,

I mean, there's plenty of them. I know, you want to add to them with you, you know, let's get gender equality and all the rest of it with your statues lead recovery. But what should the response be when people do things like this?

Speaker 13

Yeah, so look, I mean I do think we can have a debate as a society about you know, statues and memorials, so we can have an adult conversation about these things. But it is never acceptable to deface statues, decapitate them, you know, spray them in red paint, salt, looks like blood saw them down, as been the case with Captain Cook here in Melbourne. And so look, we've got a pretty clear policy at the City of Melbourne.

We repair and we reinstates. So we recently reinstated a statue of Captain Cook which had been sworn down in the treasury regards new steel reinforced in there. We don't know who the culprits are with this King George decapitation, but I know the police are hot on the trail there.

And again I'm open to a debate on these things, but I will never ever reward the damaging of statues by saying, Okay, well, because it was damaged, we're just going to leave it down like we will always reinstate, because we're not going to reward bad behavior.

Speaker 1

Just thinking out, perhaps we should electrify them and see what happens. Kidding, kidding, relax complained to someone else somewhere else, or.

Speaker 13

With CCTV aroun around all our cameras, which is a sad state of the world. We're in the parks. There's now all CCTV monitoring statues because it's become a thing, right, people attacking these memorials and statues.

Speaker 1

Or I've got thirty seconds, which means fifteen for each of you, which means treat at late ten win are a loser of the week, Lisa loser.

Speaker 14

Mark Drayphus today at the summit, and starting with the booing that he got there and how he delivered that speech was appalling. Winner of the week. If you listen to Jim Chalmers, have to be all of the Australians who have a mortgage and the great huge cut we've had in interest rates one hundred bucks.

Speaker 1

All right, thank you, all right, Nicholas, you're going to a loser, mate.

Speaker 13

Oh look, I'm just going to go for a loser. Donald Trump. You know what he said about Zelenski in Ukraine. I mean, the facts are the facts. Russia started that war, not Ukraine, and Zelenski was democratically elected. It was despicable what Trump said. No four D chess going on, absolutely despicable.

Speaker 1

All right, good stuff, Thank you very much. Do appreciate it. Mayor future mayor former mayors and anyone else who's watching right now, Thank you very much. We'll see you're in Batman's babe. But remember we're focused on the news while having the fun as well. We've got a massive couple of weeks ahead. Join us for every night. You're going to love it.

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