Paul Murray Live | 20 August

Biden was shoved out the side door at the convention that was supposed to lock him in for another election in four years as president. And the great Nigel fars Joints is because tonight is no sooks, no lefties. You'll love it, love every second of it. But first, huge

news today in and around aged care. Now, the Agecare Minister Anika Wells has been playing games with the future of many people that are watching this show right now, the people that are on the verge of age care or their kids who will inevitably end up at some

point in their lives having to deal with aged care. Now, December last year we told you that there was a plan that the Labor Party was seriously considering which was to increase the amount of user pay in the age care system where so called wealthy people and of course that's defined by not how much money you have in the bank, but say the value of your house. That this would end up being a major factor in how much you would have to pay for aged care. This

was December. We were supposed to get the report at the very start of the new year, but the Dunkly by election meant that it was pushed way past that by election because the reality of what they were planning

to do may well have affected that by election. Well, we now know that as a result of the Greens who are hunting specifically Anneka Wells and her seat of Lily, the former Wayne Swan seat in Brisbane, we are about to get a hard turn to the left when it comes to how people will be charged for aged care. This is the reporting that happens this afternoon. Boomers facing user pay aged care as labor give grounds in secret talks. Now, remember these negotiations are exactly like most other things that

take place, which is non disclosure agreements. Everyone has to shut up. Everyone does shut up because they don't want to annoy a government, a government that has the capacity to give them extra funding, to cut their funding, to increase their regulation or drop their regulation. Now, again, this is a huge story because of its consequences. And I don't care what they said last week, last month, or

last year. Something is changing behind closed doors in order for this thing to pass through the Parliament, either with Greens or potentially even with Coalition support. Now, if that means that more people are going to have more money taken out of what is left over after the sale of a home, or they're being sent higher bills because of the value of their home, a home they may well have lived in for decades and you have not

seen a cent of that worth. It's all money on paper, but that paper will count into how much you will have to pay for the care in the final years of your life. This is huge. Again, I read from this story Labour has given ground in hard fought talks with the Coalition to overhaul age care services for hundreds of thousands of older Australians, clearing a key obstacle towards a new regime that asks wealthier people to pay for more of their care. Now, as you notice here, the

negotiation seems to be happening between Team read and Team Blue. Now, if Team Blue is going to create a scenario where they are going to increase the user pays system, well we're going to have our problems and we'll haul all of the relevant people over the coals. But of course the other path here, if they don't get the coalition is to go to the Greens. They of course will reset this even higher, because remember, they believe in estate taxes, They believe in taxation on what you leave to your

family members after you are gone. They believe in a war on intergenerational wealth. And they are hunting this minister. They want her seat, so she is going to try to cut them off at the pass again. Hopefully I'm told everything's wrong by this time tomorrow night. But this was the government that told us they were going to tell us at the start of the year. They didn't. This was the government that said the family home wasn't part of it. We'll guess what's now back into the conversation.

The worth of your home now also inside these negotiations is a disgraceful backflip on one of the few ideas that were good ideas when they came into office. Now, I shouted the roof down a few months ago when we learned that one in four people in age care are malnourished. That number climbs way higher once people start to have things like dementia. But my apologies, four in ten, forty percent, four in ten of people in age care are malnourished. It's six out of ten for people who

may well be dementia patients. Now, one of the ways that this government was going to try to shock anyone involved in age care into delivering a better quality of care, which includes better food, was for the people who run those age care companies to be held criminally responsible if the care falls and the organization is declared to be negligent. But guess what that now is off the table. Two.

Back to the Herald article, the federal government has backed away from its plan to impose criminal penalties on nursing home directors who fail essential standards after age care providers and the Coalition warned that the sanctions went too far. Well, I think when four out of ten people are malnourished, six out of ten people are malnourished if they have something like dementia, well, that is a huge failure of

the organizations that get billions of dollars in revenue. Some then end up running at a profit, some end up running at a loss. But the reality is, if you scrape and save your whole life to buy a house, you do everything you can, like taking care of the gardens, adding on a roof, improving it so that when you sell it it's worth more than when you bought it, and the majority of that money then goes to essentially

private companies. For you to have a four in ten chance of not having good enough food, well that is a system that must change. If the way to shock them into it is serious penalties, well then I'm all for it, and I'm all fine with it. We will find out where this goes and the next day or so. I understand that right now the function is in and around visas, and I'll talk about that in some detail tonight.

But can someone somewhere ask a question of the role of the family home in a changed, greater user pay system when it comes to age care. I'll certainly ask behind the scenes, and we'll ask as many as we can to do it in front of the cameras. We'll report back tomorrow night for you on exactly what's going to take place. There now. As you know, last night we had some fun with the idea that when Barnaby

Joyce says that somebody's asook, he had to apologize. Prime Minister has the court withdrawn reporter to assist the House. I'm going to invite the thank you the member. I knew it withdraw. But when labor say it, nobody asks for it to be withdrawn.

and Bishop has said over the years. It's absolutely true. Well, another example of it flows around about some of the stuff that's pushing around Canber right now, and of course we see it in question Time and each and every day that this government is well and truly on the

back foot when it comes to the visa situation. Spectacular reporting by the way from Sharing Markson about the lack of vetting that is taking place in some scenarios and the use of tourist visas as opposed to humanitarian or refugee visas is again disgraceful, and we'll get to that a little later in the night. But of course the government is running around and telling everyone it can in the media that somehow there's a problem with Peter Dutton because as we know last week he said hard ban

on anyone from Gaza. Then of course he's now walked it back. In fact, he even brought an opinion piece to that very point to make it nice and clear what the position of the government, of the potential government is, which is, yeah, okay, some people from Gaza, but not everyone from Gaza, and there's got to be extensive vetting. No one would have a problem with that. Oh, but apparently it's flip flopping and it's a disgrace when it's Peter Dutton. But of course it's another example of the

one rule for them, one rule for everyone else. Well, let's go back to when Albo was helping out his mate Alan Joyce when it came to their position that the Qatar Airlines should not be landing more flights in Australia. Why because we mean fewer people would potentially be flying to Europe on among other airlines, principally Quantus. Remember way back when when the Labor Party actually admitted that they

blocked this in order to protect Quantus's profit. It was one of those issues where they had a different story every day. Stephen Jones, significant minister in that government, said we can drive prices down, but if we drive them down to a level where it's actually unsustainable to run an airline instead of having two carriers, we will design our markets in ways which will make it unsustainable for the existing Australian based carrier code. We're doing it to

save Quantus's bottom line. We see, because of course he's in the Labor Party, so he gets a redo, but it doesn't not allowed to redo. The Labor Party allowed to redo. National Party can't say sook, but the Labor Party can say sook. He came here on the air of Sky News to try to clean up the quotes where he said that he'd been misconstrued by his very own words. One rule for them, So if they can change their story halfway through, Dutton can two.

In December. It's just as true in February of last year, in March of last year, of May, in last year of June of last year. In November of last year, there have been a dozen rate rises under this government, the government that promised to do something about cost of living.

Twelve times it has gone up yet the political conventional wisdom is if it goes up the thirteenth time, that will be when Australians will have had enough of the economic management of the bloke who gave us a preview of his attitudes towards being the Treasurer before he was the Treasurer. In fact, let's play it again, Jim Charmers when interest rates went up once under the previous government, and now is this Jim Charmers really telling us what

he truly thinks about his own government? They've gone up twelve times.

for a couple of years now. Well, the Reserve Bank, we got to see some of the minutes inside just how close the thirteenth was, Just how close we came to the thirteenth one, the one that would apparently pop the blood vessels of Australians when it comes to this government. The Reserve Bank and Michelle Bullock have also made it clear no rate cut this none. So you may well

hear ramp and speculation here, there and everywhere. Well again according to the minutes of the Reserve Bank, that is of course a governor handpicked by this government, that is holding on for grim life before it gets swept away replaced by people more friendly, including the unions, towards what the government wants to do. The reality is this close is how we came to yet another interest rate rise. Let me read from the stories about this today in

the Australian, which include extracts of the minutes. The Reserve Bank seriously considered an immediate increase to the cash rate in August and how a rate cup before the end of the year would actually keep inflation above the target until twenty twenty seven. This ain't I of anytime soon. Kids. They said it was time to get rid of the last mob. After one interest rate rise. Twelve later, the case is twelve times as clear about the economic mismanagement

of this government. Minutes from the Central Bank's August meeting reaffirmed that the RBA's Governor Michelle Bullock's view that rate relief is unlikely to be delivered until twenty twenty five and shed new light on how close they came to hiking it. Quote given members that being every one of the Reserve Bank who makes the decision around this is not just the Reserve Bank governor. They agreed to the commitment to prioritize returning inflation to target that is between

two and three percent. Remember we had a month where it was over four percent. We had a quarter where it was closer to four percent than it was to three percent. Now all of those things would justify an immediate increase in the cash rate. This matters because the people who are just holding on. Anyone who is just holding on to the side of the cliff eventually loses the strength to do so. A third of Australians have paid off their own house. Well done to you you

worked hard. A third of Australians are paying off a house right now and they are frightened. A third are renting, presumably in properties that are either outright owned by somebody who's already worked hard to pay it off, or are being paid off by somebody who most likely has another mortgage. That means that under elbows rate rises five hundred thousand

dollars loan, that's the average loan in Australia. Fourteen and a half thousand dollars is what you have had to find since May of last year May of twenty twenty two. A seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars loan you've had to find, twenty one thousand dollars, a million dollars you've had to find thirty thousand dollars you didn't have behind the couch. Now you've found it because you haven't had to sell your house yet, but you've had to go without.

And what may well have been very comfortable from the fifteenth of the month, the fifteenth of the month becomes a little bit uncomfortable in week four, and then a little bit uncomfortable in week three, and for many people very uncomfortable. Even a few days after they are paid. It is why two little too late tax cuts don't

touch the sides. It's why pretending the twenty five dollars for every mansion or one bedroom unit when it comes to its power bills does not touch the sides because the increases from the government that was supposed to bring them down is way higher than those numbers. It's all just so they have billions of dollars that have been pittled up against the wall. So they have a slogan

for an election, don't buy it, don't forget. When this python was squeezing, they took the fifteen hundred dollars off ten million taxpayers. They rerouted that to a biden Esque scheme of forgiving student debt. I'll give you the tip.

They were already voting for you, Albo and Jim. We also learn that one of the consequences of the squeeze, you've heard a big light, A big squeeze that has been going on for too long, a couple of years, and a chance as the RBA is now talking about, not just of twenty twenty four, twenty five, twenty six, but maybe twenty twenty seven. So that is literally two elections away, one due next year and then potentially, yes, you could have another one in twenty twenty seven. This

is madness that we are in right now. And I'll tell you why the people in Canberra couldn't give a tuppence razu. And it's not just because they're swimming around in money, but it's because the people around them are swimming in money as well. Today we learn yet again from the organizations who do not receive the same sort of government support because allegedly there's no votes in it as businesses that are going to greenify the future or make things like solar panels in austral all the rest

of it. Right, four million used to be three point seven four million people are having trouble putting food on the table. Wake up, Wake up Canberra. This is so front and center, and we are the frogs in the pot that Okay, if it was boiling like this, we wouldn't go anywhere near it from a couple of years ago. Well it's boiling, baby, and we're the ones that are

suffering right now. Are staggering. Three point seven million Australian households have reported struggling to put food on the table in the last twelve months, and we told you a version of this number when it came from the good people of Food Me. This time it's a new organization called at Work Australia. It also noticed that between August twenty twenty two February twenty three, inflation was at a thirty three year high, fifty three percent of Australian struggle

to afford basic needs like food and shelter. Why is this not the first question in question time? Why is this not the thing that they hammer a prime minister about in a press conference? Why is this something that is not the talk of the halls of the building that allegedly is filled with the people who represent us. Well, of course, the Prime Minister has paid six hundred thousand dollars. He's got not one, but two brand new jets that are coming his way. Yes, ordered by the previous government,

but not canceled by him. The cost of that four hundred and fifty million dollars the Voice referendum, four hundred and fifty million dollars so he could buy a place in history. Of course, politicians have got not one, not two, but three pay rises. Public servants have received the largest pay increases in a decade. So unsurprisingly, many of the people, and I know they are good public servants who often watch this show and go Paul, not all of us,

but you get my point. When we're speaking about many of your cop leagues, why are they not worrying about any of this because they get a pay rise. It's the biggest in a decade. Just let the MPs get one. And now today the people who work at Parliament as well, the parliamentary staffers team Red, team Blue, team Yellow, team Green,

what are all of them? Massive pay rises and cultural leave on top of everything else, domestic violence leave which I support in the obvious, mental health days, personal all of that stuff right the federal government. Apparently this is the maximum pay rise that is allowed under the rules. According to the ABC. They also get travel allowances. The proposed Enterprise Agreement, which was put to a vote on Monday, so presumably it has been supported, but will double check,

is widely expected to be approved. It will give approximately two thousand political so MP, ministerial and electorate staff a pay rise of eleven point two percent over the next three years. Four percent in the first year, almost four percent in the second year, three and a half percent in the two years retrospectively, so they're going to pay rise backwards as well. There will also be three days of leave for any staff to attend significant religious or

cultural obligations associated with a particular faith or culture. Now I'm fascinated by this one because we already have a scenario where while you can pick and choose your public holidays, certainly you know January twenty sixth, If you don't want to do that, you can take that at another time. Now, obviously there were people who already have the gazetted public holidays, generally speaking in and around things like the Christian public holidays.

And again I don't have a problem with people taking one of those days off, like if you don't observe Good Friday, then you can take it off for what is the more appropriate day for your faith. But on top of all of the public holidays that exist, generally speaking in and around the Christian calendar, we're going to whack another three days on top of that for your

faith or culture. It keeps going. First Nation staff will also receive an extra day a year off for nadock activities, and up to six days or two years of full ceremonial obligations. What now again, are we getting to a system here? And again, It'll be a long time before it's there. And to merely suggest that on television means apparently I'm setting the hair on fire. The gazetted public holidays are of course based in and around, generally speaking,

the Christian calendar. Are we going to have options about those particular days or do you have those days? And everyone who is outside of the faith, will they get all the extras as well as now? Wonder these people, honestly no wonder. These people got no idea that the economy is not just numbers. The reality of the economy is not what you can massage out of treasury. The reality of people's lived experience right now today is a

world of pain. Pay roseyse, pay rise for the politician, pay rise for the staffers, pay rise for the public servants for us idiots. Just pay more tax, Shut up and be grateful because we gave everyone a tax cart. Come off. Bank has made some interesting statements in the past couple of days, including about how much money it apparently costs them to keep cash in an ATM or

cash in a branch in its annual report. The bank described providing cash is a challengeing commercial model, and it revealed spending about four hundred and ten million dollars on cash services in the year just gone. Of this amount, about three hundred and fifty million was used to keep cash available at branches and ATMs. Presumably the rest of it to four hundred and ten is literally moving it around.

Don't spare you know, don't shad too many tears. Though the bank did still make a profit of nine point eight billion dollars. So, yes, cash is legal tender, and we should be able to get it from a bank, and we should be able to get it from an ATM. And it's not like you don't charge fees for people to access their own money. Please, Now, what about the

Victorian lockdowns? Let's get back to those for a moment or two here Now, of course, we learned that the credit rating agencies which are downgrading constantly the Victorian economy because of how much debt that they currently have. Well, apparently one of the reasons why the debt is becoming is being downgraded, and thus the cost of tax payers is further and further up and through the roof is because of the world record lockdowns, but of course nothing

to see here. Daniel Andrews, of course, among other things, got a little gold medal for his efforts. Remember, because he nailed COVID. You have to pay for it. And all those people who died by themselves, they'll never be a royal commission in TV news today. If you like me, spend well some period of time at home pretending to be or actually sick when it came to going to school, maybe you were just lucky enough to be home in the middle of the day. Phill Donna Hue legendary talk

show hosts. I think it was here on Channel ten for years and years. Weill sadly's passed away. He did so aged eighty eight. His television show was on air between nineteen sixty seven nine ninety six. He won twenty different Emmy Awards. Now, I know it's bad to say this in the day when somebody passes away, but there's some very funny impersonations. Phil Hartman on SNL did a particularly good job. Still in the United States. Yeah, let's

get to it. The Democratic National Convention one of four days where they're gonna pretend everything is fine, everything is okay, the person who was the co pilot as the plane started to head towards the mountain is the same person who'll be able to save you from the same mountain. Well, this is all, of course a vibey and very vague campaign. And even when lefty comedians are in the same town as you to celebrate you joke about how vague you are, you might have a problem.

when no one's really what. So they shoved in about a thousand people to speak, So he started giving a one hour long how good am I? At eleven thirty at night. So the plan was, of course for no one really to see it, apart from the clips which are all turning up on breakfast television in the US today. But can I just call BS on this one thing that everyone says over and over and over again.

move and write the books. For those of us who lived this time, we remember what it was like a little bit like the people who actually lived through the Whitlam years. You see, kids basically only learn that the evil Liberal Party got together with some drunk governor general and they pushed the greatest prime minister off the history books. What they forget to write in the history books is that he lost the next two elections, meaning they did

the right thing. But of course that would be just factual, and eventually those of us that remember it will just all simply go away and pay more for the privilege of age care. Between now and then quick break back, we're more plenty to talk about. Nosooks, no lefties. Nigel Faraj is going to be He cannot wait to talk to him in a moment or two time. Also looking forward to a conversation about the Greens and how low can they go when it comes to making a point

in Parliament. This bloke, ruh, he is as low as the limbo go Niger Fras Marble or two's time, No books, no left he Senator Holly Hugheses here and the wonderful James Morrow as well. You can see him on the US Report Outsiders and read him in the Daily Telegraph. Hello everyone, So Nick McKim as you know right now, legislation debates happening right now about whether or not to put the CFMEU into administration, and most likely will happen, as I understand, some sort of deal has been done

between government and opposition. Well, he decided to jump on the twitters and make a point that I think is a rather low way to go. And let's have a look at what he had to say here, which was, of course, they came for the refugees and only the Greens fought for them. Then they came for the climate protesters, the forest defenders, and only the Greens fought for them. Now they've come for the trade unions and only the Greens fought for them. Who will they come for next?

Anyone who knows their history knows that this is a pretty obvious reference to World War Two and the Jews and the Holocaust. James too far?

now where they're literally parodying themselves. I mean, and then don't want spoke up for the climate activists, you know. I mean, this is like there was a great joke in the great Chris Buckley book, thank you for smoking about this climate movement? Who speaks for the krill?

What I find unbelievable is that they think they're winning right now. Question They are being smashed in question Topha, and on this issue of vetting and otherwise they again are getting smashed. This is all in an area where they booted the ministers because their previous problems when they were smashed in this area.

it's a bad thing. Hamas who are an atrocious terrorist group. And then as soon as somebody calls them out, what are they go? Oh, look look at Peter Dunn here, he's being divisive. You know, well, they're the ones who are dividing the community. This is the same thing that they're doing with this. They do it with climate and energy, you know, they push through the renewables nonsense and all the costs. And then somebody calls them about say, hey,

why are you being so negative about our plan? This is what they're doing.

Party because they they can't fill out the paperwork. You know, in my view they have a strange preselection process where they go in the wrong direction. But that's just me. When it comes to the Senate here, I'm with you. So we have this scenario where they were going to challenge. Now they're not going to challenge. They've got rid of all of that. What's your position on the accountability and whether or not that unit of the Liberal Party needs to sort of be put out of its misery and

the Feds takeover. Yeah.

particularly for the greater cause of winning elections. What we've seen over the past I don't know, five six years we had this big reform process, all of a sudden, there was twenty nine people the state executive and we've seen election after election after election, complete dysfunction and self interest being.

at the moment. But if I was a candidate in the upcoming federal election in a federal seat, House said in New South Wales, some of them who have been redistributed so have new areas that now have zero council representation. I wouldn't be putting my faith in this division of being able to run a federal campaign. And you know I'm in the business of winning elections. I'm not here

to make you feel warm and fuzzy about yourself. I want to make sure we've got the best team and we're winning elections and getting rid of.

than a second nozoks, no lefties tonight. Chief amongst them the Great Nigel Ferrage, of course, MP for the Reclaim, Sorry for the Reform Party, reclaim my apologies the Reform Party in the UK, and he joins us now from Mary Old England. Now, great man, let's talk about the DNC yet again. A final insult to Joe Biden, who you and I of course don't hold any waterfall whatsoever. But they shove in so many other speakers that he eventually starts speaking at eleven thirty at night and keeps

going until a full hour later. Millions of Americans had tuned out and gone to bid What a final if you to the bloke who just what two months ago was as sharp as attack and was ready to take on the world.

but let's forget about Joe Biden. And by the way, Donald Trump needs to forget about Joe Biden. I'll come back to that if I may. As for Kamala Harris, I mean, I mean, this is all just placitudinous nonsense. We're going to saved America. We're going to save democracy. It's a complete policy free zone. She doesn't do a media, doesn't present, just goes on stage and gets cheered because she's new and she's different. I can't wait for September

the tenth. You know, we've known ever since Nixon v. Kennedy that in America, these presidential debates decide elections, right, but this one on September the tenth, I think really could decide who wins. Yeah, of course she's got you know, huge media support. You know, she's not Donald Trump. But what does she actually stand for? Is it the very leftist platform that she ran on back in twenty nineteen when she went for the nomination and got almost nowhere.

That to me is what this is now really all about. And I expect to see nothing over the next couple of days from Chicago.

Where Trump wins is on conviction. Where Trump wins is not having the courage to take on things that others bury. And I think we need to see that from the Republican candidate.

and all the rest of it. You're right. The reality is every poll, including all of the ones that may show a little advantage for her here or there, they say the economy is number one. People when asked about it, then say they trust Trump on it. About immigration issue number two, they trust Trump on it. That means he's got the issues, and the public are saying, we are ready to give the ball back to you. He has to be. He has to clasp it though doesn't.

American cities. This is where Trump wins. You know, people see him as a strong leader, but he just needs to He needs to reconnect with the American public with this messaging and it needs to happen before the tenth of September and then on that evening we need to see that on policy he's thought stuff through. And frankly, unless I'm wrong, I don't think she knows what she stands for.

to her? Try to explain how this will pay for itself.

budget with that sort of thinking. So no, September tenth is a really really big night.