From the Sky News Center. This is Paul Murray Live. I'll settle for the burger kin, but fair enough. Thank you, Dulla.
It's very nice for you, all right, Welcome to the show, Welcome to the man Cave. We've got an awful lot to get to tonight, including no sooks, no lefties. It is our gift to you in this the first full week of the election campaign. Gary Hardgrave, Bromwin Bishop, giving you nothing but the best. Tonight We're going to have a chat to somebody who's affected by these Queensland floods. They've lost an awful lot of their property but also
their business and what it's like. I noticed again Prime Minister, no plans are visiting there. But of course Alfred oh that all turned it around for him and the.
Great fire up.
Megan Careley the only place you see here on AZTV right here tonight walking.
Into the New York Times building, which was amazing. It's like, oh my, I'm really going the belly the beast here. Every had it in there was like.
Well, you know, is that who I think?
It is?
All right?
But first before I get to the politics of the day, and you know, I can talk a lot about that I want to talk about something that is frankly more important than what is happening right now in terms of the federal election, in part because it is not being discussed in the federal election between the two people who seek to lead our country in the next little while.
It's our kids now. I care because I have.
Two little ones that are in primary school. You care because you've probably got two little ones, either in school themselves or certainly as grandkids.
But the truth is that the kids are not all right.
And it's not a scenario where all they needs just to go outside and play more and a kick in the backside and everything will be all right. No, for whatever reason, the society that we all live in has created huge troubles. And you would remember that, with great pride, we were able to raise a couple of one hundred thousand dollars for the good people of the Kid's Helpline.
This was, of course, during COVID, when people were being locked in with their abuses, something that we knew was terrible at the time, something that we ended up being vindicated by when it came to the information. But all of that's years ago. But guess what, the kids are still not all right. This service is a vital and important one. It's a telephone number that I want you to write down tonight. One hundred, double five, one hundred,
one hundred, double five, one eight hundred. I want your kids and your grandkids, your nieces, your nephews, the little people in your life to know this number because they may be willing to tell somebody on a phone or as thousands of kids do, they interact via the text message versions or their website of kids Helpline dot org, that are you. But it means that they will have someone there to help at a time when they feel
they need it. And today there was a report that was released by the people who run Kids Help Line, and it is about the Kids' Helpline.
Impact Report four.
Last year, there were seventy four thousand, six hundred and sixty six counseling sessions. Now these either happened online, text or over the phone. That is two hundred and four people under the age of eighteen that they were able sorry twenty five that they were able to connect with and take care of and potentially save from what all
of us would be most scared of. Forty percent of the calls or interactions were in relation to somebody thinking they were in the last day of their life, thirty percent were about the evil things that have been done to them, and ten percent was about trying to connect sometimes their feelings to what might be happening and give them the treatment when it comes to things like mental illness. This is more important than Team Red Team Blue. But
I'll do all that for you in a second. Eight percent come from indigenous communities, thirty eight percent from cultural and linguisticly diverse, and I don't know what other means, but other would mean the majority of the backgrounds of people between the ages of.
Just three, three and five.
I think it is as the lowest they go to five, everything all the way up to university age.
Now.
The Kids Helpline is part of a service which is offered by your town, which is a spectacular community group, and forty three percent of its funding that is taking and helping two hundred kids a day.
That's all day, every day, Good Friday, Easter.
Monday, the twenty fourth of July twenty six for the federal government, thirty percent from the state and two percent from Australian business, but the bulk of that group as you can see is coming from people like you and me. Now, previously people have donated when I've asked them to, but this is not a call for donations. This is a reminder with the platform that I have that there is help. Please make sure that the little people in your life
know this. Telephone number one eight hundred, double five one eight hundred, one eight hundred, double five one eight hundred.
It's all the way up to.
Somebody of twenty five years of age. Maybe they don't like the phone. Young people don't, so maybe kids Helpline dot com that are you is the way to be in touch if you can donate at a time when I know no one's got any extra money, but those who do, please help them out. Two hundred kids every single day are reaching out. If your kid, my kid, or somebody else's kid needs help and they feel they don't get it in the home for whatever reason, these people are there to help.
Let's make sure there are more people there to help.
One hundred double five, one hundred or kids help one dot com dot AU. All right, what you came for. Well, let's rip into the election, because we are making our way through the first of five weeks of the campaign thirty one days to go, most importantly, just twenty days until the first votes are cast.
Remember that last two weeks is.
Basically soaked up by people who've already made their decision, and more than half of people are expected to vote this time around. As for where the leaders were today, Peter Dutton, he was speaking to an Australian family about the cost of living issue that is the number one issue in the election, no matter how much other people try to change the subject. Here he was having a chat to them today.
And the concern is if the government keeps being as well, that inflation will go back up and interest rates go up again, which I think would be devastating for families, particularly if you've got a big morbage as well, and then you put all of these bills on top of that. It's a big way to be.
The Prime Minister was in relatively unfriendly territory, which is Victoria. Yes, it's where a significant number of MPs come from, but as i'll explain a little bit later, it is not a place where there's an awful lot of votes right now. There she was, Penny Wong. But don't you dare ask her a question, because then you get this from the Prime Minister.
No, because it's my press conference.
That's the bloke who's apparently winning at this election.
But forgive me for saying that I think I might take up just a little bit of free space in the prime Minister's head, because for no reason he brought us up and the pub Test in an answer to a question that wasn't about anything that happened at the
pub test. Now, interestingly, the Prime Minister has told the people that I work for and anyone that he thinks can have influence over my career that you know, I'm the worst of the worst, and he doesn't pay attention, he doesn't listen, and I'm some sort of you know.
Freak off the leash. But if that's the case, why is.
The Prime Minister talking about the things that happen on this program? Again, this was the question that he was asked at a press conference today.
The Coalition has already prempied or matched the number of the flages you're.
Making here, and it including this one year that dirty help up ther he will get it regardless.
Why do you think your promises are enough to bridge that apsid cathlete of talkings out?
So good question? Calls him out on the BS when it comes to health. But it was in Tasmania about Tasmania. But watch how, just out of nowhere he makes reference to Peter Dutton and the pub test.
This is the guy who said, along with the Coalition last time they came into government, there'd be no cuts to health and no cuts to education. They read fifty billion dollars out of health. They tried to stop bulk billing all together when he was the health minister. They tried to impose a tax every time people visited a hospital, and they tried to increase the costs of pharmaceuticals, not
to decrease them. And Peter Dutton, in a moment of candor under a grilling I assume I didn't watch the program on Monday night, said that essentially, if you have, if the comment doesn't run schools, why do we have an education department?
Now I know about the weave and the wander, but how's a question about Tasmanian health. End up with a reference to this program, the passive aggressive swipe at me and trying to make something up about Peter Dutton because we're effective, because he knows that we are keeping total laser like focus on all of his failures of the past three years. We didn't buy them when he was coming to office. We won't buy them. Regardless of whether he would loses or draws this election, he promised to
make things better. Instead everything got worse. He said that the tax cuts for everyone, we're going to help. When it comes to cost of living, Well, guess what. Two years in a row the polls prove that what they are offering is too little, too late, and doesn't even begin to touch the sides. We remind you that he took fifteen hundred dollars of ten million workers. I've told you that now sixty three percent of a bottle of Bundy is tax He's increased petrol taxes now up to
fifty cents per liter. And I've also had cute little names that he hates because they not just sum up, but they stick like each way elbow because remember he likes to have it both ways. Say one thing before an election, do one thing after, Say one thing in December, do something different in January. And then there was all
that time he was spending overseas. Remember of us, albow was anywhere but Australia for a big portion of his Prime ministership, not to mention upgrade elbow after he of course was using his connections at corners to get himself and his family better flights for things that had nothing to do with business. And then, of course there's Albonomics, which is the reality that despite promising to make everything better,
it all got worse. Albinomics has produced one point two trillion dollars of federal debt and that is to be paid.
By your kids.
Meantime, a lot of what I end up doing is pushing back against the media, and for it, I can feel the sword that hangs over the top of me, desperate to try to strike, and it might be something say media Watch or the different media columns, or angry old school reporters, because I call out the bs when it comes to the media. But more importantly, I don't just make it up. I show you, so you'd have to come to this conclusion. Why, because we show the
tapes right now. You may remember that we have been keeping track of every single financial statement and promise made by Anthony Albanezi in the shadow campaign since the start of the year all the way through to today, and keeping count that is now forty six point three billion dollars. And again, just in case you think I'm making up the numbers here, he is divving those numbers up. Since the first of January this year.
A seven point two billion dollar announcement today five million dollars ten million dollar, two hundred million dollars, three billion dollars, three hundred and fifty million dollar, two billion dollars, thirty seven million dollars, eight hundred and forty two million dollar, two point four billion dollars, eight point five billion dollar, four point eight billion dollar, one billion dollars, three point four billion dollars, two point eight billion dollars, two hundred
million dollar, one hundred and fifty million dollars.
And sometimes it felt a little bit lonely, and then slowly but surely some people have started to notice, and they've all done versions of it in their own columns or shows on TV and radio.
And that's awesome, because it is an absolute.
Point worth mentioning. I'm glad, And again it's not about being the traditional owner of this line of our attack. It's just about saying, I'm glad that other people have noticed that this is an awful lot of money, which, of course is all on the credit card. Why, because we're in a budget deficit where we will be in one for ten years. The Intergenerational Report says that we're going to be one way through to the twenty sixties.
So with great interest, I noticed in the Channel nine newspapers today, this time from the Age, that they have now launched online keeping count of Labor and the coalition's spending promises. Thinking, well, okay, forty six point three billion dollars in the shadow campaign, mixed into the budget and out through.
To the campaign.
But guess what, According to the Channel line papers, it is the coalition that is out spending the Labor Party, apparently all of those in the anouncements, which clearly were announcements about the future, not about this year into the future.
Forty six point three billion dollars. No, no, no, he's.
Apparently only promised four hundred and four million dollars. Oh, it's the coalition that's pissing money up against the wall at one point six billion dollars. Again, this is how they spin that when they want to make a too little, too late tax card of twelve dollars a week for people earning forty thousand dollars. They want to make that scene big, Well, they just put it all together and give you the fifty two week number. But nobody pays their tax that way. You pay it when you get
paid weekly, fortnightly or monthly. When they talk about the interest rate reduction, they don't talk about the tens of thousands of dollars extra that you have had to find to pay off your mortgage since this bloke became prime minister. When they talk about the inflation numbers, it's only the last month that matters, not the three years of mega increases.
That all add up to a scenario where you are way out of pocket and they don't remember, or they choose not to remember, that fifteen hundred dollars that was taken off ten minion workers. So, despite all the promises, is anyone fifteen hundred dollars better off than they were at the start of this government?
Answer?
No.
Instead, what they've done is they've divvy that money up and slowly but surely, this way, this way, this way, this way, so they can run the TV ads saying, look what we've done, ding.
Ding ding ding ding ding ding.
But the reality is fifteen hundred dollars worse off ten million workers more than forty six billion dollars in promises since the faux campaign and the real campaign. I don't know, but we're only counting from after the election was officially started. Why because that makes the Libs look worse. Now there will be people who obviously don't know the data that you know, have not been keeping score like we have been keeping score, and we'll look at this and go cheas Peter doesn't.
How dare you?
But once again this is the Prime Minister his own words. All of these announcements were forward looking, no reference to previous money. It was all future money, and it was either money that was due to be spent after the first of July this year or after the first of July next year, or after the first July the year after that, or even the first of July after that.
A seven point two billion dollar announcement today five million dollars, ten million dollars, two hundred million dollars, three billion dollars, three hundred and fifty million dollar, two billion dollars, thirty seven million dollars, eight hundred and forty two million dollar, two point four billion dollars, eight point five billion dollar, four point eight billion dollar, one billion dollars, three point four billion dollars two point eight billion dollars two hundred
million dollar one hundred and fifty million dollars.
Oh don't know.
It's the coalition that is outspending labor, according to the nine newspapers who decided only counts after the election was called. Please another thing that I do have expertise in, because again, all I ever dreamt of as a kid was the ability to one day work on the radio and maybe work on the telly because I look like this. I never had any dreams of TV. But luckily that's all worked out. And I've been sitting here for fifteen years.
I've worked in AM radio, FM, radio programs, news. I've been out and about at those press conferences holding up the microphone, and I've been asking questions from behind a camera. And you can agree or disagree with all of the things that I've done in those but I have been around plenty. I've been around plenty of federal elections and state elections, and I know how the machine works. I know that the single most corrosive factor in politics is
people who play for access. Don't upset the apple cart because then whoever the powerful is, they mightn't talk to you again, which is why I enjoy this place where I don't care about these people. I don't need to talk to them. The show is not filled with politician interviews, which means for many, not every but many give and take a little bit to make sure that they keep
returning new calls. But one of the ways that you can tell which way the collective media is going to maintain their access is about the types of questions that they ask. The people who are in power now, regardless of the polls. Just have a listen to some of the questions that the Prime Minister gets, and all of them are basically soft lobs for him to hit back in the direction of his political opponents. You see, they don't want to upset the apple cart because they want access.
They want it through the campaign and for them fingers crossed the next three years of an Elbow administration.
If we are to see widescale tariffs announce tomorrow, is the government prepared to offer industry support to the industries that are affected.
So there was a real wage increase last year for low paid workers three point seven percent.
How are you going to show that you're standing up to Trump.
Can you see a realistic scenario whether Liberals hold no seats in Melbourne after the election.
Why is this election not as slamm don't you?
Now?
Let's compare how the conversation goes when it comes to Peter Dutton. I spoke about this after our People's forum because you could see that when he was seeing an audience that was more receptive, he fired up and he had a great night in terms of.
Answering those people's questions.
And because the Peter Dutton's not allowed to get out of first gear, because then he becomes a threat to the access, a threat to.
The comfortable arrangements.
These are the questions that they lobb at the bloke that they think can't win the election, and they never let him get on offense. They only try to keep him on defense.
Which forty one thousand of them might not have a job in six weeks.
So you're going to apologize for your previous comments that have inflamed so many in the Muslim communities.
Can you tell us how intense your fights with Barnaby are?
How can you be taken seriously in the Pacific if all of your policies.
Ama them.
And if that's not enough, the access game means that if you play nice, they give you x exclusives like this one that was handed to one of the Channel nine reporters just before their bulletin last night, No Questions asked Quick Breaking News Live to our political editor Charles Croucher in Melbourne, Charles, Good evening, you have some figures on the cost of Peter Dutton's nuclear plan.
Good evening.
Yeah, these are new costings or a new analysi that's been done by the Labor Party and will form part of their argument going forward against nuclear power. They say, because of the modeling of Peter Dutton's nuclear policy, less energy will need to be used and that will cost jobs in heavy industry and aluminium thirteen and a half thousand jobs, including some in tom Ago in New South Wales.
Now, even though we know it is a bit of a lifty, does anyone believe that Lori Oaks would have done that just before the six pm news? You see, this gallery is full of people who haven't gone around the sun enough times to have covered many elections, so they are exposed to the first time of this raw power of how good it is to be close to the source of power to do their bidding, either directly
or indirectly. Now, it doesn't mean that we should live in a North Korean state where you don't have tough questions for either leaders. Of course, not we should have a press that wants to ask an uncomfortable question. But when they're essentially when you look at the majority of them, they're very obviously soft to one side, hard to another, Well,
then it's pretty obvious what they're trying to do. Just like I told you out of the People's Forum, when all of those reporters were sitting and watching, they were there not to cover what he was saying, but instead they were there to watch for a protester or a gaff, neither of which happened, which meant it died the second that we went off the air. Another example about this is the much discussed National Press Club. Now, the National Press Club is of course an absolute home game for
the Labor Party generally speaking. Why because it is the Canbra collective, they get to ask one question each or, in this case today, because it was Angus Taylor and they don't think he'll be the treasurer after the election, Well they could just ask as many questions as they want, But geez, I wonder who these people.
Are voting for.
Danny Daniel from the Camera Times thank you you speech, you said in a podcast interview that Elon Musk is doing good work. Can you share by Can you share what you'd like to emulate by way of Trump style dogie cuts to the Australian public service and specifically which programs you would cut if elected, given Peter Dutton's ruled out cutting frontline services or defense, which are among the
forty one thousand roles created this term. And can you guarantee that these cuts will result in net savings to the budget and not be outweighed by increased spending on external consultants.
Yeah, okay, the number of questions there, So I'll try to break them down a bit.
I use Starlink.
I live about an hour from here, and I've got to tell you it has changed.
The way the internet works for me, my family and people around me.
It is unbelievable. Okay.
So that question was from the Canberra Times, and the question was multifaceted, and you can see how they tried to link a few things in together. Now he spoke about the starlink technology, which is where thousands of people around the country the way they get their Internet is direct communication to a satellite. Now, I've seen these in caravan parks all over Australia.
When we were in Port.
Headland in Western Australia, went into the Harvey Norman there and they were selling like a hundred of these a week.
People can't get enough of them. Why because for them.
In particular regions, it's the best way of connecting to the Internet. So he spoke as a person who lives in a pery urban area that that's his connection to the Internet. But because they also threw in all of those other questions, guess what the headline looked like. Now I showed you the question and his answer, Angus Taylor praises Elon Musk Comma and there's a lot of work
being done on that. Comma confirms Spenny cuts in National Thirst Club address, making it seem like he was standing there and praising Elon Musk for the public service.
Cuts in the United States, which brings me to this way.
Now I've spoken about it for a couple of weeks because I can see where this thing is going, and you can see that the media is desperate to turn the conversation into not one of a contest between a prime minister who last election promised to bring down the cost of a living, yet three years later the cost of living went through the roof.
Who took fifteen.
Hundred dollars off ten million workers, only to hand it back in a five dollars tax cut that kicks in
not this year, but next year. They don't want a conversation with a comparison between a prime minister who had points between fifty and sixty percent of the country says's doing a poor or very poor job, and the bloke who's been holding him to account, the guy who had the courage to say no to a referendum, which was Albo's moment in history, and he was able to fight sixty forty years into sixty forty No, on and o. Instead,
it's all about Trump. The desperate want of this government and its mates in the media is to somehow make this election a referendum not on the performance of the government of the past three years, or who do you trust to put the country back on track for the next three years. No, apparently it's all about voting against Donald Trump. Jeez, they're really subtle too.
Peter Dutton is going to back Trump over Australia.
This is Dojie Dutton taking his cues, his instructions and his policies straight from the US in a way that will make Australians worse off.
We don't have to adopt all of America's policies.
I think copying policies from another country, in particularly the United States, isn't really applicable.
And the people who used to work for Get Up who now work for other independent organizations, will they offer you the ability to make this message nic and clear by being able to buy posters that you can put on top of Liberal Party posters that make it seem like Peter Dutten is all in on MAGA just in case it's not subtle enough. I'm totally sure that's legal, but we'll see what happens in the next of a while. But these are other games that get Up used to play.
But of course they're not get Up anymore, are they. And that's because the reality is the majority of Australians don't like Donald Trump. Now I know that that means I'm not where the majority of Australians are. In fact, something like sixty percent of Australians have a negative view of Donald Trump right now. So for the people who say he should be more trumpy, well, they would lose more seats than they would gain at the next upcoming election.
That's just the electoral truth right. In fact, an opinion poll that came out just last week showed us that Donald Trump annoys more people than the sense of cost of living. So that is exactly what Albo is trying to make it about. Don't make a cost of living, which is clearly the number one election issue and also the number two issue that bugers people off.
Instead focus on.
The one lives in the White House and the media. Will they do their bid? Of course too do the government's bidding. And it's more exciting to talk about global affairs than boring old Australian politics, which is why they always talk about Donald Trump.
If they come in, will you blame Donald Trump?
If we are to see WI widescale tariffs announce tomorrow, how are.
You going to show that you're standing up to Trump?
There are daily conversations happening on tariffs.
Donald Trump is always up for a phone conversation and a good negotiation, and.
They're going to get what they want.
Why because in the next twenty four hours we will know just what type of tariffs, how many tariffs, and what they will apply to. Because Donald Trump has said whether it's friend or foe, everyone's going to have to pay for access to the American market. The media, who have already set this up for weeks, will try to distract from the federal election for the next few weeks.
Now.
Of course, Peter Dutton.
Has made it very clear that he's not Donald Trump, and today in an interview with Andrew Clenell, he said this very clearly, but I noticed none of this turned up on your six PM news tonight.
Ultimately, what people want is a prime minister who can stand up for our country, and what they've seen in Anthony Albenezi is somebody who doesn't have the strength or the backbone or the will to stand up for our country's interests. He can't stand up to China at the moment with Donald Trump. If I needed to have a fight with Donald Trump or any other world leader to advance our nation's interests, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Just like the pub test, because there was no protester and there was no gaff, it didn't happen, and him saying that he was willing to pick a fight with Donald Trump it didn't happen in the six pm news tonight. Jeez, I wonder why. I also noticed that none of those reporters are asking the Prime Minister when are you going to go to Queensland.
You were more than happy to pretend that you had some sort of.
A role when it came to the response to extropical cyclone Alfred. But he has not gone anywhere near and apparently, according to my information, no plans in the next couple of days at least what we know to be as public schedule, to be going anywhere near these floods that are going.
To cause huge trouble.
In fact, are causing huge trouble, one hundred and fifty thousand head of cattle dead. The effects of this are going to scar the land and scar those businesses for what may be months or even years. Joe Tully is a Queensland farmer. He is somebody who has been deeply affected by all of this, and he joins us now, Joe, I'm sorry that we talk under these circumstances, mate, but tell me about how much water is all over your joint and what you've lost, Paul.
The water is slightly receding. It's been coming back for a couple of days now, but it's still running. It's not running under our house, but it's running on the paths and all that beside it. It was a record flood for us and pulled up just short of of going into our house. So yeah, it's run through. It's still so high that I'm yet to know what has done to all the fences and that sort of thing. But yeah, it'll be at least another week before it
goes down. And the same thing with stock. We've had significant stock losses on our place and and yeah, we're still still working out and again it'll take a long time to figure out exactly what we've lost.
How have you been feeding what animals that you can mate?
We've got great support. Yeah, it's it's an amazing community out here and really couldn't be proud of it. The Yeah, we've got shy councils and neighbors and that are coordinating helicopters and we've had fodder drops with helicopters to to stock that a stranded on islands. And and then it is making a difference. They need it, and and yeah, it's been very very much appreciated.
I'm political.
You're not not trying to drag you into my black hole of politics here. But do you feel like when you saw what happened in Southeast Queensland, the rolling coverage politicians all day every day, do you feel as supported?
Mate?
We're obviously pretty busy out here and there's a lot happening. I haven't been watching the news too much, but I am. I am feeling a lot of support. Hey, it's certainly from our local community and neighbors and all that. And yeah again just getting those those fodder drops. And there's so many things happening out here to try and all these communities to cut off the roads are cut and yeah, there are things happening and you know so good.
Yeah, So, as I said, I'm going to bring you into politics.
Are just trying to have a chat bloke to bloke you so well avoided, But Joe, I want to talk to you again. We don't know how many head that you may well have lost here. Some expectations are across the whole region up to one hundred and fifty thousand.
This sort of.
Stuff has mega impacts on your business, doesn't it.
Absolutely where I'm still building up our numbers from the previous droughts, but we've sort of got back to where we wanted to be. We're down probably at least five hundred sheep and not really sure cattle, could be up to one hundred cattle. And we're probably one of the lucky ones. There's people upstream from us that in our particular creek and and all of them across the across these shires that some of these people have lost half
of their stock. And for those people, they need some serious help.
Like the.
Pretty hard to come back from that, whereas we'll recover little satisfacked years, but but no really feeling for all those people that are severely affected.
Now.
Just having a look at the video that I think is from you, you had to get around on jet skis.
That was the way that you were checking things out.
Yeah, we've got jet skin in a boat. So our house is completely surrounded. It's probably Akilomita either side to get out to where we've got a plane and a few vehicles that we can go out and start checking things. And yeah, the jet ski's about the quickest way to get around. So it's an old one, but it's well and truly should be a tax deduction.
Now, when was the last time you used a jet ski to get around the property.
Other than taking my kids skiing on tubes and stuff.
Yeah no, I never.
Wow, Well, thank goodness you had it. We know there's plenty of other people this is the way that they're getting around. How are your mates holding up? Of those that you've been able to talk to, get a quick text to, or somehow stayed in touch with, how are they holding up?
Really strong?
Mate, Hay Like, Yeah, I've never received more phone calls and support myself, and I know that everyone else is probably in the same boat as that. Neighbors are calling every day and offering their health, friends and family. And no, it's really great, mate, But it's still in the early stages of this thing. You don't have time to think about anything at the moment other than just saving your stock and getting all that sort of No one's thinking too much about fences or all that sort of thing.
But once all of water resides and people put their hardest and soul into exclusion fencing all this area, and we could have ten kilometers of fence down. People have got fifty kilometers of fence down and yeah, it's devastating.
All the best to you, Joe, strength and love from all of us who've just met you here tonight and everyone who knows you. They'll be proud that you're on the telly right now. Lots of people watching in that part if they can. And all the best to your family as well.
Mate, Thank very much.
Paul, good talking to you, mate.
Good on you, Joe, Joe Tully, they're rolling around. How's that getting around the farm on the jet ski. He's told you about the losses a strong people. It is part of rural life. But to all of those that are suffering, we think of you each and every day, and we'll keep checking in until we know you're okay. Remember Far made a great organization that helps out go
and donate to them. Tonight, Quick break Back with more no sooks, no lefties, plenty to fire up about and the great Meghan Kelly just getting started on a Wednesday night. No sooks, no lefties, That's the way that we like it. Don't forget we've got this a little event happening next Tuesday. The first time and only confirm that the leaders will be in the same place at the same time Tuesday night.
The results, by the way.
Here on Paul Murray Live nine o'clock Australian Eastern daylight time BROBA, Bishop Gary Hardgrave. Well, they've been in and out of the in and out of the election, not just on a show on four BC, not just in the streets. But they're in it tonight and there's plenty to talk about with both of them. I'm so glad that they are here. But before I get to that, can we talk about this school in Sydney that's decided.
It's okay if you don't want to attend the Anzac Day services.
Now I do not understand how officials the new so I was Education Department have not come down and said.
No, no, no, no, no, no, not happening. You have to turn up. Why is this happening?
Unfortunately the left of politics socialists really like to break down the social fabric of the culture of a nation. It's innate in the nature of their politics. Now, in this particular instance, what should be the case is when Anzac Day is commemorated, and we're commemorating dead and those who served, that it is compulsory to turn up if a parent withhold their child, and that's in defiance, not
because it has been sanctioned. A big difference between those two things, and it is important in my view that we do really kick up a big stink about it because it's part of our culture. This is when we as a nation and we commemorate Gallipoli because that's the
time as a nation we went to war. Yes, we as a nation we had troops there in the Boar War and that was important too, but Galliperly was such a dramatic thing to happen to us that it set the tone that we will always say thank you to those people who will put their lives on the line without questioning absolutely.
And I mean, Gary love the country.
What I love here is nobody woke up today thinking that this was something that we'd have to talk about. But if you do talk about it like we talk about it, we're involved in a culture.
War well and we should be waging one. If that is the case, Paul, these kids should want to go there. They should actually understand how the backstory that Brahmins has talked about. It's incredibly important kids understand that everything in Australia today has been one off the effort of those
willing to shed blood. We should pay tribute to all of those twenty years ago today that dreadful accident that occurred up in Indonesia as they are on a humanitarian mission and we lost nine personnel, six out of the Navy, three out of the air Force. I mean, we should not forget anybody who's fallen in our name in other places, and so the kids should want to go. And so
this is a fundamental failure of our education system. It's a fundamental failure, frankly of a Prime minister who has forgotten what the Australian flag looks like and prefers to use other flags to actually divide Australia. And so this sort of division is hurting us. And our kids are better than this, Paul. Most kids are the few that aren't draw attention to themselves and they can be dealt with.
But this is borderline sedition that's going on here, and we should call it out for what it is treachery to brand Australia, our nation, our heritage and everything we stand for.
Yep, with you, let's see where this is in twenty four hours Premier Mens, Deputy Premier prow Car and Education Minister. Let's see where you are with a prime minister and Peter didn't get asked anything. But of course it'll all be Trump in the next twenty four hours. Bro, Let's
talk realistically. Can Trump sink Peter Dunton and the Liberal Party if the next couple of weeks is nothing but the Prime Minister and the media trying to turn this election as opposed to our government, but turning it into a personality and popularity contest with the bloke that we know the majority of Australians don't like.
I think there are a couple of important points to make here that the tariff question is masking what is the real issues we're being faced with.
We've got a.
Prime Minister who's prepared to be all matcho or pretend to be matcho about taking on Trump's tariffs, but is not prepared to stand up to the Chinese absolutely leader of the Communist Party that wants to expand in our region.
And they're interference in our election.
Rest and yet he's not prepared to stand up to that. Now they are actually doing things in a military way that is harming our personnel. The aircraft that was had the.
The shafts thrown into it.
I'm going to call it that because that's what it was, which could have killed them, the naval man who was diving who was injured as a result of those sonic boom being carried out. So and the joking commentary that the Prime Minister makes about the reconnaissance or research ship not a spy ship, well, please tell me if you're a spy, aren't you doing reconnaissance and research.
And pretends that what we're doing in and around it is trying to see. Oh, it's all it's all the same.
It's not. So we've got that problem now with regard to tariffs. The best response to that is how can we assist our people who are going to be affected by them, give them an offset. The best thing you can poss we do in the world is lower energy costs for them. That would actually take the edge of the tariff. That is something you can do immediately. It's like mister Dartan's promise to have the tax on petrol and understand an excise is attack.
It's a tax. It's a fuel tax exactly.
It's just a sort of tax that it is, so that's an immediate thing. So when we come to the failure of the Prime Minister to stand up to Z, it leaves a nasty taste in the mouth when Z then comes out and says, oh, well we back Albanese now, would you have thought perhaps that it was calculated that if they were apologistic and apologizing for the actions of the Chinese, that they just might get that reaction.
Do you think that's possible?
But also they realize, right, you stand up to them head on the spike, you give them what they want, oh keep them going, and we know that there's different ways that that message gets community.
In the meantime, we're losing sovereignty absolutely.
And Gary your sense about this here, because I mean you've already heard the talking points, have already shown you the media obsession. We know where this goes and is it going to blow the Libs off?
Course, Peter Dutton's has got to be Peter Dutton, the real Peter Dutton actually is a very attractive commodity.
Peter Dutton will.
Stand up for Australia. It's interesting the point Robin makes about the Chinese, because they sought permission and got it from the New Zealand government for that same research vessel to be in New Zealand waters. And yet this Prime Minister, Anthony Alberniz, he says he didn't know about it. But I think he is lying about it just as much, just as much as he's lied about the price of power going down, just as much as he's lied about everything he promised to do. This bloke is just a
perennial liar. And I know people in politics are often badge that way, but this fellow, I think is not told the truth.
He's not told the truth.
Chinese sought permission from New Zealand but didn't seek permission from us. He's got a problem with Beijing if they haven't wrung him up the way that they've. Wellington got a phone call from Beijing. So look, you know all of this is just subterfuge. Paul, your editorial was spot on. This is all about creating a bigger lie to cover all of their lives. And the reality is this, are you better off than you're worth three years ago? If the answer is yes, you vote labor. If it's not,
you just vote against labor. This mob should be turfed out, and in big numbers we'll see what happens.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I got ninety seconds, so forty five each year. John Howard pretty clear today when he was talking about that Anthony Abneze is out of his depth.
Did you agree?
Of course I did. I mean, I think I've been saying some of the things all along. Was a very succinct way of putting it. But I think we also need to put accent on the things that are in the Parliament now which have been rejected to date, like nature positive yes, like having the tax placed on capital game sex based on unrealized capital gains. And that incidentally is an idea they pitched from Kamala Harris.
Of course, that was part of her.
Policy tax unrealized capital games. So don't tell me that they are an original looking after Australians, they're not.
Well, Gary's already ready to do an outside broadcast when Kamala rolls into the Gold Coast in a few weeks time.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, no, no, not thank you. But look either way, she'll need an autoque wherever she goes, you know, a device in front of us so she can to read her script and laugh here sort of thing. Look, the thing is that John Howd as a patriot, continues to be Peter Dutton wants to be like John Howd. Australia will be well served with Peter Dutton as Prime Minister. I hope he gets there. It's a long way to go. Get busy, people get busy.
I say, that's it. Fight, fight, fight, It's the way it goes. Thank you guys to appreciate it. We'll see you all again very soon. Gary of course on the radio, and four we see each and every afternoon from three. Meghan Kelly's next, No sooks, no lefties, just the way you like it. It's our favorite time of the week to talk to our favorite person in the world. As always, the wonderful Meghan Kelly. Meghan Gaday, Hi, how are you well?
Good? But I've got to say our country is a little.
On knife edge tonight because you know I'm pro Trump. You know I've got the hat. You know I know why he won and why that was a great thing last year. But Liberation Day is a little bit different on this side of the ocean compared to how it's going to be played out in the White House. What is your sense of how average Americans react to the president and all of these tariffs which are going to make countries like ours send maybe a little less your way.
I thought you were talking about Transliberation Day, and I was going to say, I'm sure you celebrated the same way I did, with full, wholeheartedly marching and putting on our drag over opposite sex sports. No, the tariffs, well, he doesn't have a lot of support for them. I don't think it's only like a strain of the Maga faithful that's in favor of them. Plus the labor unions, some of them seem to be in favor. But I personally am interested in trying this experiment, Paul, because here's
the thing. We really do have trade deficits with a number of countries in which, like it feels somewhat like our friends are taking advantage of us. And I understand that that too might fail as a justification for a retaliatory tariff. It might like economists, some economists say you still shouldn't do it. It's still better for you not to do it. But the New York Times did a deep dive into, for example, the tariffs against Mexico about three weeks ago, and what they concluded is that good
luck finding a fentanyl lab right now in Mexico. They've disappeared because finally Shinbaum, afraid of these two griffs and under them, has decided she actually does need to do something about the southern border and the flux of immigrants coming across it. And so they're closing up shop. These cartel members are shutting down the fentanyl labs, and our tariffs against them are working, and we've ruffled some feathers
amongst our friends right especially like Canada. But I think Trump's general policy when it comes to dealing with foreign countries is you can be a little meaner to our friends, and you should be a little nicer to our enemies. And it's all a negotiation tactic for the most part, to land a deal, to get things to not necessarily be exactly what he's demanding, but a little better for us than they started.
You did an excellent interview with the New York Times. Now, this, of course is the definition of old school media who hate what we stand for and certainly what you do. I love that you push right back against some of their garbage, and I love that they were sort of a little bit confused by who you are right now. I think you gave it to them right between the eyes. But it wasn't an unpleasant watch.
It was fascinating to me, Paul, because first of all, walking into the New York Times building was amazing. Right, It's like, oh my, I'm really going into the belly the beast here. Every head in there was like whoa, you know, like is that who? I think it is? Right, because like they're not used to seeing me there either, But look, they treated me well. The bottom line was they just don't get it. They don't understand new media.
They only understand corporate media. And these old rules, these anachronistic rules by which we all did once play but which they blew up. The rules of not owning your own bias and not speaking openly about your own opinion on the news worked when we really would collectively move to hide our bias and do our level best to be fair to both sides. There was a long time in journalists where we were at least trying that, maybe
not succeeding. You know, I mean, you can't tell me the year two thousand we were perfect at it, but we were a hell of a lot better at it than we are now twenty five years later, they changed the rules. They were the ones who decided openly lean into their bias to write only positive articles about Democrats
and only negative ones about Republicans. The only time they criticize a Democrat in power is when he or she's no longer become useful to them and they need to get out of the way for someone they consider more useful on their team. So it's a completely dishonest setup. And then they go out there and try to tell us that they're objective and that somebody like you know
yours truly is not. See, I can't cover Trump fairly anymore because I said I'm voting for him, and I want other people to vote for him too, So there therefore I'm no longer independent, and my audience can't trust me to report unfavorably on him when he deserves it. And I just I laughed, because it's like, no, no, no, you don't understand. That only gives me more credibility with my audience, and not because they need to hear me say I like Trump because they want to hear where
I really stand, whether they like it or not. Those are the rules in this lane, and you people at the New York Times who won't say who you're voting for aren't fooling anyone. So what you have is a dishonest relationship. It's like a husband who's cheating on you, and he comes home every night and he says, I'm not cheating on you. I absolutely love you, honey. We have a wonderful marriage. But you know he's cheating on you. You have a crappy relationship. And the fact that no
one's declared it doesn't make it not. So that's the New York Times, and it's readers, you know.
And with me and my audience.
It's open.
I tell him everything. And if they want to leave me because I'm not cheating but I'm you know, dating Orange man, then they can leave me, right. But so the ones who remain are there because they know it all and they still find me acceptable. But that's the only way you can compete in this universe where I am, where I'm not just up against fellow journalists, I'm up
against entertainers. I'm up against comedians. I'm up against so many compelling and entertaining and talented options that that's how the audience sees me as just like a button they can press and they can get the news from me, or they can get it from a number of other people. So I better have an authentic, good, tight, honest relationship with them or they're never going to click on my face.
I absolutely love having a chat to you each and every week. You are our favorite part of every week. Thank you, Megan, we love you.
Love it to Paul. Thanks for having me.
She is the best one and only and the only place you're going to see here is right here, this Chael, this show each and every Wednesday night now or reminder, you can always send me an email Paul at skynews dot com dot au, and I'd love your newschips about things that you're seeing around town, take photos of the different posters and how to votes and all of that stuff and send those emails to me Paul at skynews dot com dot au. Looking forward tomorrow night, where we
will yet again go through the election. But more importantly, keep an eye on those who are reporting on this election, because geez, I wonder who they're going to be voting for late debate next see tomorrow