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Paul Murray Live | 19 September

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Anthony Albanese has another shocker of an interview, how the latest jobs and population data show Labor's gross incompetence. Plus, Donald Trump's surprising new source of support.

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Speaker 1

From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Can I get Eaven me Happy Thursday? Lots to get to tonight, including I know you've heard a lot about the population number hitting twenty seven million tonight. Well there's a whole bunch of data nobody else got to. So I'll tell you what is happening in your state, specifically with a number of people being brought into the country. Now we

know the Greens. They talk a big game, but surprise, surprise, I'll tell you how they actually roll when it comes to more units in their part of Australia. And an interesting idea about whether or not we should ban how to vote cards. I don't hate the idea. But first we know the Prime ministers in a world of trouble. We saw it today on what would otherwise be known as a home game. Now take your pick. Every pole tells us that this government is headed towards a minority.

The one that came out this week really shocked the Prime Minister, and it was that there's a chance of a Dutton minority, not just the inevitable of a labor minority. The overall look at the polls here, each dot is a different pole. You can start to see what was good is now bad and is now sub fifty not to mention fifty seven percent of people who so they can't name a single thing that this government has actually

done to make their life better. So a prime minister who is wounded in the polls before he jumps on to Toto one that you pay for and I for him to yet another airbus elbow, this time urgently to go over to see the living corpse that is Joe Biden. Well, he had an interview today and it was on Radio National. It is with a favored presenter and I've got to say a nice lady. I disagree with her on many things, but a nice lady nonetheless, Patricia Carvellis. And as I said,

it's a home game, it's hardly adversarial. That's only for liberal politicians.

Speaker 2

The Prime Minister Anthony Albinezi joins me now on Radio National Breakfast, Prime Minister, wonderful to have you back.

Speaker 1

Nice when friends get to talk and we get to listen. Well, as you will have heard by now, it was a shocking interview because not only was he cranky, but he got some major detail very very wrong about the number one issue in the country, that being the economy. I'll

get to that in a moment. But even the Sydney Morning Herald noticed that this was not the interview that the Prime Minister had come to expect, because God forbid, he was getting a tough time because in this case, the host didn't think the Prime Minister had been far left enough.

Speaker 2

Are those tax policies completely off the table for you?

Speaker 3

Well, Patricia, I don't answer the sort of those sort of questions in the way that.

Speaker 2

You mean good ones.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's a good question.

Speaker 2

Are you are you going to say no to those or not?

Speaker 3

There are things that journalists The next question is when will the election be No, that's not my next question. Yeah, well they're not terribly clever questions.

Speaker 1

Oh hello, hello, break up in oil radio National. Don't worry. They got a had another hunt later in the interview. But we've seen the Prime Minister do this before. He was on radio in Sydney when he thought that it was sixty forty yes for the voice about this time last year, but of course it was sixty forty no, yes or no?

Speaker 4

Will the voice be able to speak directly to the RBA.

Speaker 3

Well, I can't talk directly to the RBA board. So no, and I'm the Prime minister. No, Ben Okay, can I make this point because I know where you're reading from. You're reading from the NO pamphlet.

Speaker 4

No, I'm not reading. Excuse me, prime minister reading. Excuse me well that no reading? Excuse me, well it is.

Speaker 1

I am not.

Speaker 4

Reading from the NO pamphlet. I'm reading from my own questions that I have written.

Speaker 1

No, I'm want to fly.

Speaker 4

You've just accused me of reading from a pamphlet reading.

Speaker 1

No, I didn't.

Speaker 3

So I see those quotes are from the NO pamphlet, which they are.

Speaker 1

I said on that very day that that may well have been the moment that the voice was lost. Well, when this Prime minister, who is already down in the polls, who already in opinion polls, has more than fifty percent of people saying he's doing a poor or very poor job,

is this the day that he lost Radio National? Probably not, but to the actual thing that we should be talking about about this interview, which was his absolute lack of knowledge about the way the economy works and more importantly, how Australia is behind the eight ball on places like the United States, where in their presidential election. The failures of that economy are of course the number one issue. Now. He was asked a question about interest rates and about

financial pain that people have right now. The obvious comparison was what was happening in the United States, where as we told you and previewed this week, there has been a dramatic cut in interest rates about half of one percent. Now, their rates ended up going up higher and faster than ours. But still the reason that interest rates get cut is when the economy is st arding to slow and they

want to get money flowing around the economy. Now, that's great if you're trying to borrow, which all of us to some degree are involved in it, or certainly a third of the country. Is when you're paying off your own place, another third paying off an investment property. Good luck to you. If you've paid off your house, you

worked hard to do it. But the same blog you didn't know what the unemployment rate was when he was going for the job application a couple of years ago, has no idea what's happening when it comes to our economy, our interest rates, and why things are changing in the United States.

Speaker 2

It's taking a long time, and people are in a protracted period of pain.

Speaker 3

That's correct, and that's a global phenomenon, Patricia.

Speaker 2

Well, in the US the cutting rates Prime Minister.

Speaker 3

Because the economy is so slow. That's why they're cutting rates, Patricia, and inflation.

Speaker 2

Their economic growth is higher than ours.

Speaker 1

Correct, he does not know what the comparison is between our economy and the biggest economy in the Western world, that being the United States. This floke is not across detail because he thinks he doesn't need to be. He thinks that his interpersonal connection will be enough for Australians to always back albow Well. Every evidence right now is that the majority of Australians are not interested in that.

What he thinks is a secret source of his own personality is now going to start to work against him again. I turned to the Daily Mail because they were the ones who actually focused on this, and rightly so, about how big a problem this was. The US economy is booming compared to Australia. We've talked a lot about how growth in this country is enemic. Quarters of zero point two percent. Put them all together, Australia is just one percent.

The US is at three percent. This in Australia at one percent is the slowest annual growth since nineteen ninety one, outside of a global pandemic, of course, released upon all of us by our old mates in China, who we can never disagree with, can we, beautiful boy. And the results of this bloke's economy is that there has been a dozen interest rate rises on his watch, a dozen, but the political praetorian guard around him says the thirteenth

will be the problem. Wake up, mate. It's fine for him who's living in not one, but two taxpayer funded mansions so he can boot the tenants out of his property that he's going to sell for almost two midian bucks in Sydney. Completely he is right, but he's not paying anything off in the way that you and I are doing it, the way that your kids are struggling to even get into the housing market. Now, this was a point that was pointed out by Peter van Nonslin

after hearing that interview this morning. And then there's a response to his tweet. Let me tell you first, the PVO version the PAN points out that US economic growth is so slow when its economy is growing four times as fast as ours, and a lady called Betsy Stevenson, who used to be an economic advisor to Barack Obama. We have to get advice from Americans here about the lie the Prime Minister tells this signals that he isn't listening to the people around him who knows something about

the macro economy. The ods economy is a bit too fragile for that sort of negligence. My apology, in my humble opinion, absolutely correct. The Treasurer of Australia runs around and is referred to as doctor Chalmers because the assumption is that you will think that he has a doctorate in economics. He doesn't. He has a doctorate in political communication, which was entirely focused on how Paul Keating sold his economic message. Now, the australianomy is in a per capita recession.

This means you and I and everyone else watching has been going backwards for the best part of eighteen months. The federal government has a surplus though because of mining royalties, the very industry that they do everything they can to shut down, including in the Northern Territory right now and the Beaterloo gas basin. It also is able because of a quirk of accounting, to use the profit from the

Future Fund and count that towards a government surplus. But the reality is that this government has got tens of billions of dollars of borrowed money off budget. This is how they're able to pay for things like future funds and made in Australia, and money for former prime ministers and billionaire mates to be able to get their companies to get access to taxpayer funds because it's all off budget.

Sequence of this sort of arrogance is not just political, but when this bloke is the chairman of the board and he doesn't know what the other countries are doing and what is going on in other countries, including the one he is flying to as we speak, this bloke is up the creek without a paddle and the canoe

is leaking. Now remember last year when you were told by clueless Clear O'Neil, that idiot Immigration Minister Andrew Giles and the Prime Minister that we're going to cut the amount of overseas migration because they knew that Australians had had enough of an excessive amount of people, hundreds of

thousands of people being brought into a country. Where as we have told you this week, a bloke died because he was waiting for an ambulance, an ambulance that was called at two o'clock in the morning but didn't turn up at six o'clock in the morning until six o'clock in the morning. That's the reality of the health system in Victoria. Hospital ramping is bad in every state, near record levels. Regardless of how new or old the government is.

There are huge problems in Australia that more people don't fix. It only fixes the federal budget bottom line, which means they're able to say the economy is amazing because we're in front gold star for us. Again, the people who actually pay the taxes are going backwards. The only way that the country is slowly putting forward is because of pay rises for public servants and how many more public

servants they have been hiring. But of course, because labor politicians for a generation have told us that every kid has to go to UNI, regardless of whether that's a unique course that you will actually be able to turn into a job or you're just learn how to be a lefty. We have seen not enough people to have trade certificates apprenticeships in this country, so we're told we

have to bring in all of these extra people. There's not enough places to buy or rent in Australia today for everyone who was here two years ago, let alone today, where we learn that the Australian population is now twenty seven million people. Now the population growth is not because we are having bubbers, but because we are bussing them in every ten minutes. Australia's population is officially surpassed twenty seven million, overseas migration driving eighty three percent of the

population growth in the past year. Now, let me show you again some numbers which you have not seen in other places. Tonight. The total population is now twenty seven million, one hundred and twenty two thousand, four hundred and eleven people. That is up six hundred and fifteen thousand, three hundred people in a year. Of those one hundred and five thousand,

five hundred people are natural increase. So when you take away the number of people who die at it with the number of people who are born, the natural increase in our population was just one hundred thousand people half a million people. In the past twelve months, five hundred and nine thousand, eight hundred people have come in from overseas. That's why we are at twenty seven million. Now, that's why it is so hard to find a rental place. That's why when your ring triple O, the ambulance may

not turn up because it's waiting in a hospital. And a bloke died this week as a result of this problem. Now, let me break this down state by state to make it very clear what is going on here and how this is a phenomena that is nation wide. In New South Wales, their natural increase is three is thirty thousand, seven hundred and seventy six. Okay, so that is deaths minus births. That's the number of extra people that we

have via natural means in New South Wales. One hundred and sixty eight thousand, one hundred and forty eight people, mostly going to Western Sydney, have been dumped into our community to make the federal budget look good. New South Wales also saw of all of the people who moved and all of the people who left the state, thirty one thousand, one hundred and eighty three people who left the state of New South Wales. But even then there was still an increase in population because of that number

of overseas. In Victoria, the natural increase is thirty one thousand, six hundred and eighty two one hundred and fifty one thousand, seven hundred and forty people come in via immigration. That's why there's a rental queue that goes around the block if you're trying to get a one better anywhere in Melbourne. Now, amazingly, of all the people who came and went, the grand increase to the population was five hundred and thirty seven. Nothing happening when it comes to Victoria. This is after

that a huge amount of people leave. Last year, the natural increase in the population berts versus deaths twenty thousand, eight hundred and seventy two, four times higher was the amount that came in via immigration, and thirty thousand people from the rest of the country coming to Queensland. It is even darker in smaller states. The natural increase was about three thousand. In South Australia, the immigration was almost ten times higher at twenty six thousand people, as sixteen

hundred people left the state. In Western Australia, the natural increase is fourteen thousand, the immigration four times higher at sixty four nine hundred and two. That's why property prices in Perth keep going up Now to put this in even stronger language for people to understand, which is that the population of twenty seven million has dramatically increased by almost a million people exclusively that have come into the

country since Albanese became Prime minister. Now I am not counting some of the numbers from twenty twenty two because of course took over May June, so about half of that year, so I could add it, but the twelve months to March of this year five hundred thousand people before that four hundred and fifty four throw it all together, nine hundred and sixty four thousand, two hundred people who weren't here two years ago. Now again you have a

look at these numbers. This is your net migration of people who have come to the country in your state. Three hundred thousand in New South Wales, almost that in Victoria, one hundred and fifty thousand in Queensland, fifty thousand in South Australia. Are one hundred and seventeen thousand people in Western Australia. The consequences of all of this stuff is

the pressure that exists on services. Now all of us know that the hospitals aren't up to scratch, for twenty five million people, let alone twenty seven We know the education system is not up to scratch for twenty five million people, not twenty seven million people. This is the issue, the housing supply issues that I now notice they're trying to blame the former government. Get your hand off it.

You on your watch, have brought in almost a million people so you can puff up your own federal budget so you can go to an election and tell people the economy, where they have been going backwards for eighteen months, is rosy because it's a Ponzi scheme. Now again this matters. Now, of course this government says we're going to pull back. They didn't. They've already at three quarters of the way through the year basically hit the number that they said

was the reduced number for this year. For their part, the opposition, well, they're making the most of it because why wouldn't they. Why shouldn't they.

Speaker 5

The population is increasing predominantly because of immigration. You've had more than a million people come in and there is literally nowhere to put them. And the government's proposal or they'll own forty percent of your house. Can you imagine your monthly, six monthly or yearly audits and inspections from the government for their forty percent, them directing your maintenance

and what you've got to do. And the kids have bashed the wall with something or throw on the xbox and you have to fix it because the government wants their bit covered. This is communism one oh one. We want people to be able to access their super funds to buy a home because it's their money.

Speaker 1

Do you see a trend emerging here? They spin you constantly about how amazing everything is. The tax cut's too little, too late. The power relief does not touch the sides of what has increased on their watch, the number of people that have come into the country, making every other thing you have to queue for harder because they obsessively told a generation of kids it's dumb to pick up tools. But don't worry. We just open the gates. We just

say more, more, more now Again. For anyone who wants to half listen to this and pretend that this is some sort of rant against people coming from certain parts of the world, I don't care. I've said every single time we talk about immigration. It's not about where people are from, what they look like, what language they speak, what food they what God, all of that crap. It is about the pressure that already exists on our system.

But because the bureaucrats do not see a single thing change for them, because the politicians do not see anything change for them, because it is to their advantage to keep adding and adding and adding to the queue while turning around and announcing band aid solutions to roads that are buggered up or hospital systems that have failed. You want to do something serious to let Australia have a chance to bread, you need to pause this number at

this rate. I'm sorry, but just these people and if you talk about it, oh right, it's not about that. Another detail today now again unemployment basically the same rate that it's been. So the headlines all say unemployment, no major change, steady, amazing, great, another tick for the Prime Minister in economic management. Well guess what, There is actually a little devil in the detail here that might be worth pointing out to people. We dive into this stuff

so you can know about it. So when you are armed with the facts, the information, the data, you can win an argument. And there will be some about this this weekend, no doubt.

Speaker 6

So.

Speaker 1

The unemployment numbers which came out today via again, our friends of the Bureau of Statistics, that far right wing think tank Jeez have been busy today. Have a look at this. The number of people who lost a full time job was three one hundred people. Those were not replaced with more full time jobs. No, they were replaced

with a football stadium of part time jobs. Now, anyone with a part time job may find it a little bit difficult to get a home loan, may find it a little bit difficult to keep that job for long enough to be able to get enough time banked up to be able to go on holidays. The part time job does not pay the same as the full time job. And we know everything costs more. And by the way, when they turn around and say, well inflation three is better than four, three is better than five, add them

all together and it is just an endless rise. Just because the rise a little bit slower right now, does not mean that things have gone down. Everything costs more, the pressure for everything is greater, and the replacement is not full time employment. This is the sort of stuff that you would see in and around Christmas time when people hire extra people to work in the shops or to help get the deliveries done. In and around the end of the year. But of course what would these

people know about business. None of them have any serious experience and in fact, remember only two members of the Cabinet have any experience when it comes to small business. Allegedly the Arts Minister Tony Burke, somewhere that I can't find in his bio was him working in a small business. The other one is Don Farrell. His small business was a wine label that he launched in between his time in the Senate. That's it. This is the type of

people that are running the show right now. Now, of course, let's get back to the interest rate decision in the United States, where they're coming down, coming down by zero point five half of one percent. That's a pretty big cut. But according to the Financial Review, don't expect that here in Australia because we are not growing the way they are. Our inflation is not coming down the way it is

over in places like the United States. Instead, you will continue to have to find thousands and thousands of dollars extra to payoff a house, to pay off a loan that you didn't have to until this bloke and Grimjim became the people in charge of our economy. I give you the data in laborious detail because data wins arguments. And now the Greens. Now we know that the Greens love to pretend that Australia needs more housing and it

needs more affordable housing, It needs more units. We need more places where people are going to be able to find somewhere to live because of you know, immigration. But this is what they say all the time.

Speaker 7

The Prime Minister needs to stop bulldozing and start negotiating with the Greens to fix the housing and rental crisis.

Speaker 2

Have freezers on rent increases and we can fhares out negative gearing.

Speaker 1

Try telling the hundreds of thousands of people waiting for a public home that the government building public housing again is immature. But when it comes to how they actually walk as opposed to what they talk, this is how the Greens really roll. There are three of them in and around Southeast Queensland. They think they're going to via the housing issues to be able to grow at the next election. But guess what the Greens oppose development in

their own electorates. The three from Southeast Queensland scene here, Well, they put out a little bit of a flyer to tell people in their cashed up electorates how to fight more units. The pro housing people are fighting housing in their electorates. It's a little bit like the Teals who say we must have more renewable energy, but if you wanted to put a single solar panel on a doggie park in a Teal seat, they'd freak out again. Good

reporting here from the Brisbane Times. Federal Green's campaigning for affordable housing in camera have opposed apartment blocks in their own inner city electorates, distributing pamphlets instructing residents of how to flood local councils with objections. The Greens housing firebrand and fellow MPs have resisted eight projects or rezonings for

several thousand new dwellings. Letters from the MPs to council officials show several of these high density projects are in wealth if your inner suburbs have also been opposed by state and local labor politicians, undermining both parties rhetoric on housing when it comes for the fight for votes in these key electorates. So what a surprise the sanct demonious, I won't say it, sanc demonious people of the left who tell you you've got to put up with it.

You've got to put up with more migration, You've got to put up with more units. You've got to put up with the renewable energy projects in their electorates. Oh no, that'll change the character the character of our community, our village like atmosphere sticker where the sun don't shine. Now, surprise, surprise, we know the ABC could never be wrong. You have heard all week about well pretty obviously doctor footage when it came to one of their major award winning exclusives

in and around alleged war crimes in Afghanistan. But what about the sooking that comes from the bloke who should just be saying sorry or sacking people for what they've been caught doing red handed? Justin Stevens is the bloke who are like lefty Laura Tingle who's decided to turn legitimate observation and criticism about what this publicly funded media company does and turned it passive aggressive. We expect scrutiny on the ABC to be rigorous and thorough, and I

don't shy away when it's warranted. Well, Powe, what's going on with what you've been caught doing this week? But sometimes what called scrutiny is really an agenda driven attack

motivated by ideological, personal or commercial interests. Have you actually had a look at how that statement would apply to your own organization, Your own organization that always finds a way not to do one program on a subject, but three or four or multiples on some objects that you don't like, the turnaround and constantly air expose as that at best are a five minute story that they spin out into hour long stories because it does all of

those things. The same organization that, by the way, I notice, never mention the survey about sexual harassment in their own organization, a survey of their own staff, who, by the way, they underpaid by millions of dollars on a You see, what they believe is that they should be able to practice hard left journalism, They should be able to use

the worst tactics of tabloid television. But because there's no ads around it, it's an expose that is award worthy, and any and every time somebody points this out, they just draw back in on themselves and they give themselves an award. They've been caught red handed this week. If anyone else had done what they has been proven to be done, by them. We know what their attitude would be. But of course or they're not allowed to accept such

criticism because apparently it's personal. For the four hundredth time, I understand the value of public broadcasting. I understand the value of journalism that, when practiced at its best heights can be some of the best that is out there. But they want to say this about their critics. It applies to them. The proof the reaction to what I just said. Now something far happier and at the other end of the pond. You know, I love my super cars,

absolutely love my supercars. Big news this week, of course. Now, traditionally the fight was Ford and Holden. Holden sadly disappears, so it's Ford versus Chevy. A perfect example of this would be well, the start of last year's Bathist. Yes, it's just an excuse for me to watch it again. Brace yourself for another great race Australia. It is showtime.

Speaker 6

Had a great start by Jamie win Copho swings to the lead from Ruffle on the.

Speaker 1

Way up Mountain Straight in some trouble back at the start. No, no, don't cut it. There's one hundred and sixty one more laps let's just keep it playing for another five hours. By the way, I come out for the Bathist channel when that launches on Fox Sports, Ko Fox to Order, I come wait my favorite time of the year. Well, guess what, there's about to be another entrant, and as you can see on the screen, it's going to be Toyota.

This is huge news, and it's great news because when companies go racing, they want to go selling in a market. So Toyota joined Supercars. It does so twenty twenty and the great Neil Crompton helped make this happen. This is right up there with the most important things that have happened in the last couple of decades. So it triangulates the battle now between three great brands. Congratulations Crompo, Skafie and everyone else involved. This is huge news for my

favorite sport in the world. Cantdown to Baptist is on Baby. It's on Baby now. You may well have noticed on Trump popped up today on the Gutfell program on Fox News. It is, of course the number one nighttime comedy show in the United States because all the rest of them are lefty and boring. Mister p how's your golf game? Well, I haven't been thinking about it too much. Later. I always said GoF is a very dangerous game.

Speaker 6

It really is, especially if they're playing with you.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's true. That's why that was a joke.

Speaker 6

Did you if there told you that the shooter was there, would you have tried to take him out with your three? Would?

Speaker 1

I think so? Yeah, if I knew. And while the latest national poll has shown that the race is tied, the New York Times poll now shows that Harris is up in the all important Pennsylvania. The Union movement when it asked its members who they should endorse, by a very large margin, the workers said Trump fifty eight percent to Harris's thirty one again Trump on Gutfeld.

Speaker 8

The thing just happened about ten minutes before I walked out. The Teamsters for many, many decades always automatically support the Democrats. This year they refused to do it, and they took a pole, and we got sixty percent in the poll in the Teamsters, and they're not they're not going to support the Demo forrat this year.

Speaker 1

They're going to, I guess remain neutral.

Speaker 8

But that was sort of a big event. Nobody's ever expected a thing like that.

Speaker 1

To happen now must feel quite odd for him to be surrounded by people who actually like him, who laugh at the jokes, who understand all of the rhetoric, because, of course, every other time he steps outside of those environs, we all know it's get Trump, Get Trump, Get Trump. Unlike, of course, Kamala Harris, who is asked very difficult questions like this.

Speaker 9

Why is joy important to you to insert into this election? And what do you make of Republicans using that as a way to suggest that you're not a serious candidate.

Speaker 10

Well, sometimes I think, and I'll say to whoever the young people are who are watching this, there are sometimes when your adversaries will try and turn your strength into a weakness. Don't you let them? Don't you let them? I find joy in the American people.

Speaker 1

Now. By the way, remember there was a story a couple of weeks ago about how Iran had hacked the Trump campaign had got a whole bunch of inside information. Well, there's a little addendum to that story. They gave it to the Biden campaign, which presumably means the Harris campaign also has this information. Now, when that was Russia, that was a scandal, and it wasn't even what the Russians did. The Iranians hacked the Trump campaign. They gave the information

to the Democrats directly. Forget Russia, Russia, Russia, Iran, Iran, Iran. But of course that's a conspiracy theory, wouldn't it be? Quick break back with more no sooks, no lefties tonight. We're just getting started and as you can tell, the boys fired up all right, enough for me. Let's get straight into it right now. So, mates in Melbourne, none other than the wonderful Michael Kroger. Next to him the equally delightful Christine Abram. Of course he's a liberal, she's

a libertarian, and both are here right now. Michael, you've heard what I had to say. You heard the Prime Minister in this interview. I mean detailed matters, but also just a general awareness of things matters, and he failed.

Speaker 6

Mate. This is a very serious problem for elbow right. This has echoes of GoF Whitlam from the nineteen seventies when Whitlam was Prime Minister is in over between seventy two and seventy five. He became very obvious to people early in his prime ministership that he wasn't really interested in economics. Fast forward today, there is one overarching issue in Australia today, which is the crisis in cost of living.

Everybody knows that that goes without saying. People can't pay mortgages, they can't pay rent, they can't buy their food right. People are really struggling. This bloke comes into these interviews today on Carvellos and then subsequent to that, he clearly doesn't understand what's happening in America. He doesn't understand the numbers. He's reinforcing in everybody's mind, I'm not really interested in

the detail of economics. And that is an absolute killer for him electorally because people after the voice, you know, the voice gave everything the impression this guy is not really not really on cost of living his issue. He doesn't really focus on it, and today's interview just reinforces that in everyone's mind. Today was a shocking day for Elbow. He needs to spend some time in his office working on some numbers and talking about economics in a wage

that's going to convince people that he's interested. Because today was a very bad day for Elbow. Everyone just thinks this guy is just not interested in and he doesn't understand.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's the problem is in Christian you get.

Speaker 11

I have to say, you and Paul probably are being really mean to it's alboonomics that we're looking at. And I want to give you a fun fact. Albo has been in Parliament since a year before I was born, So it's not his fault. He doesn't understand that he's not his fault, and you guys are being really really mean Rabe. Look, yeah, if we have anyone to blame here, it is the universe of Sydney. They gave him his

bachelor degree in economics. He is not Albow's fault. And look, if Chalmers and Albo were CEO and CFO of a company, they would have been walked off the premises over twelve months ago.

Speaker 1

Yep, correct, yep, one hundred percent. And well people will have the chance to do it sooner rather than later. Now about Big Australia again, every time an opinion poll is asking this question, Australians pushback about immigration. Now, of course left he's automatically say, well, that's cause we're a bunch of racists. No, no, no, no, no, it's because if you've got a queue that's a mile long, you don't add more people to the queue as a way

of shortening the queue. That's the point, right and again Christen, as I mentioned before, there was a story this week that should have resulted in the sacking of the Health Minister, but not even a single question to the Premier of Victoria because she's out and about wearing asari in India, which was that a bloke died in Victoria because he's neighborhood. A whole bunch of discomfort and screaming called for an ambulance at two o'clock in the morning. One didn't turn

up until six o'clock in the morning. That's two hours after the bloke went silent and he was dead. That's why I talk about him.

Speaker 11

Question where is the consequences for the parliamentarians? I care more about power than they care about doing what's best for our country. I am flabbergaster that you know, over the last eighteen months we've brought in nearly a million people to this country and our natural progression, as you mentioned earlier, natural increase is only one hundred and five thousand, five hundred. You have to kind of ask yourself why

are Australians not having two three full kids. And look, I'm nearly my thirties now and the child talk gets thrown around, and I can tell you right now that the question I ask myself is do I want to bring in a child into this world where the economy.

Speaker 1

Is like this.

Speaker 11

We're in a housing shortage at the moment.

Speaker 1

We have issues. Were one for you, one for the country for you? What for you, Paul?

Speaker 11

And one for the country, And maybe I've got one mysel There's no.

Speaker 1

Way this will be.

Speaker 6

We need another Murray. Yeah, we need more Murrays.

Speaker 11

Yeah we need more Paul Murray.

Speaker 1

Right, come on. But also, but also, Michael, what about that that number about Victoria as well, that in terms of the number of people come and go from the state, the growth in the come and go from the state was five hundred and thirty people.

Speaker 6

Mate, Look, the electorate are not mugs. It takes people the time to work things out, and we generally love being an immigration nation. But five hundred thousand a year for the last two years, in the middle of a housing crisis, the public have worked out these people have

to live somewhere. We've got record numbers of builders going broke, record numbers of developers going the costs of housing have gone through the roof just to build anything these days, rules, regulations, land prices, state government taxes, et cetera, insurance, et cetera. I meant, where's Albo going to build all these Who's going to build all these houses for Elbow?

Speaker 1

Well not.

Speaker 6

In the Green elector no, well you can't have more building in these leafy Green election.

Speaker 1

Will be affected.

Speaker 6

Exactly. Butte the public have worked this out. A minion immigrants, you know, a cost of living crisis, a housing crisis, and record numbers of builders going broke. That's why the public think, hang on, maybe this has got something to do with rental costs going so much higher. They've worked this out, and they blame Melbourne easy and quite rightly. They blame him. And the guy.

Speaker 1

Doesn't get us.

Speaker 6

He doesn't get it, he doesn't understand. He just thinks, oh, I can talk about immigration. That'll please the left of the Labor Party. But the average blue collar person, the average young person, and of course the Greenians a right into this, blaming Elbow for the cost of living crisis and the housing crisis. But Albot's got himself to blame on this and so many other issues. Immigration is too high in the midst of a housing crisis, and every public memory punper out there has worked this out.

Speaker 1

Mate, Bloody Earth, they have quick breakback with more. I want to raise two very specific questions, not to stump but because it's their area of expertise. More from our mates in Melbourne in a moment here on Paul Murray Live as well as Winner and Loser all the week. Thanks for watching. I love these too from Melbourne equally and forever. None other than Christin Abram, of course, who is a Libertarian and the liberal that we've seen for a very long time we love him too, is other

than Michael Kroger. I've got a question for both of you that is going to be to areas of expertise. So the Libertarians is very well local government elections, in part because of the failure in and around the Liberal Party. But Kristin, you've run yourself as a candidate and now the Nusipist Party. You're saying the run everywhere every time, and that's good news because you don't start with a Senate campaign. You start at the lowest possible level to

create a movement. What did you think of what happened in New South Wales last weekend and what may happen in Victoria in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 11

Look, I'm completely stoked with what's happened in New South Wales with my New South Wales counterpart, Michael, I do have to say a very big thank you to you for your friends over the murray creating a local vacuum for us. I do appreciate it, thank you so much. We are confident that we will definitely secure ten and there's still seven in play in New South Wales. So look, Victoria is a very different system to how New South

Wales work. It is a more favorable system for minor parties and smaller parties to get elected in New South Wales and we have here in Victoria. But we do have over twenty candidates running here in Victoria, and we are confident we will return Paul Barker and Olga to their councils and getting Tim Quilty elected to council as well, which he is previously are state member of Parliament and

he was a previous counselor too. So the future is great and the future is libertarian, and Michael A can't thank you.

Speaker 1

All right. The Libertarian page. Go and find it in Victoria to find out your local Canada. John Roscombe, the Great John Roscombe wrote very well in the Financial Review today talking about how CEOs need to spend more less time on being liked, more time frankly being effective. Because I saw what you had to say earlier in the week and I agree with you completely about the Business

Council of Australia. Remember these were the people who were lending, you know, who were hopping onto the Prime Minister's jet when you first became the Prime minister. They were there agreeing with the forty three percent a mission staff, all of that. That's where that's where it started. Well, surprise, surprise, what we all knew to be true is now what they are turning around and saying. And good on them for saying stuff, but it's not about saying something. You've

got to actually do something. Mate.

Speaker 6

John Roscombe of course is right as he always has been and has been for twenty or thirty years on these issues. It's a great pity buy away the Liberal Party here. We could never find a seat from in Parliament because people of his courage and intellect are extremely rare in politics. Of course, Roscomb's right. The central problem is that too many chairmen, board members, and chief executives

their main thing is to avoid controversy. It's not to take great risk because they don't want to put it at risk their next board position, or the next chairman's position, or the next CEO position. So a lot of those people that no shares in the companies, they meander along, They go from one nondescript position to another. They fall into supporting the Voice for goodness sake, where sixty percent of their shareholders would have said no to that. I'm

afraid too many corporate leaders are punch drunk. They don't know how little they listened to and the damage that their corporate affairs departments did, which are run by a lot of white people, who get the board to agree to all of these things, and the board goes along with it because it's the least line of resistance. They're just not taken seriously. They don't have a lot of

influence anymore. It's not like the business businesses were, you know, thirty years ago, when when dollar suits and mudgory and the great the Great Industrial campaigns were being run by people like Ian McLaughlin from the National Well, there was a leader Ian McLoughlin from the National Farmer Federation, and Andrew rob and Paul all Hand and the late Great Andrew Hay and the late Great Peter Boyle. These employer leaders had muscle and they had courage and guts and

they took on issues. The business leaders today, as I said, you know dinners and cocktail parties, that's the lacking and avoiding controversy, that's their Troyka.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, certainly you want an example of business that is fighting up and putting pushing back. Right now, they keep the Sheep campaign in Western Australia where they know government are not going to listen to them, but they have found their seats and they're going to push as hard as they can, as they should because the government is making horrific decisions against their businesses. All right, Kristen, tell me about a win all or loser of the week.

Speaker 11

Win or, without a doubt, would have to be the Libertarian Party for how well we're doing in New South Wales. Loser of the week. I'm not going to say Michael Kroger and his team. I'm not going to say that, but it would definitely have to be Albo and his interview that he had with the ABC that was shocking.

Speaker 1

Michael, I think I've got an idea.

Speaker 6

Well yeah, go after mate. Well well no, no, no, no, I've got to say well Doneder, John Raddick and the Libertarians in New South Wales and yes, of course it's supporting my friends and colleagues up there. Didn't go out of nominating people, so but that'll change the next time around, hopefully. The winner of the week the Israeli government obviously have

gone after three thousand terrorists with devastating effect. The loser of the week is Christopher Luxon, the New Zealand Conservative Prime Minister, who disgraced himself, the New Zealand National Party and New Zealand by voting for a resolution in the United Nations yesterday which was, if not pro hamas was the closest thing to it, a disgraceful resolution, appalling that

we abstained. But for Christopher Luxen and the Conservatives to vote for the motion, shame on you, my friend, Shame on you.

Speaker 1

Agree completely, they get many things right there, but they certainly got that one wrong. Thank you, guys, appreciate it. We will see you all again next week. All right, that's our show for tonight and for the week. Is always a reminder, of course, we're going to be in Victoria Grand Final week, We're going to be in spring Vale for a special Ourtown. If you'd like to join us Ourtown at sky news dot com dot are you in the meantime, always send me in Mapaul at sky

news dot com dot AU. I hope your team, if they're left in the comp still get a run, but don't forget all. That's just the forerunner to bast in a few weeks time. See your Sunday

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