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Big breaking news is that the ceasefire has come into effect now after we finally knew the names the three people who are going to be the first to be released by Hamas. Now as we speak, the Israeli Foreign Minister is addressing the media. If we can go to that in the moment, we obviously will. The first is a twenty eight year old British Israeli who was taken as part of October the seventh.
The second Rommi. Sorry. The first is Emily.
The second is romy She's a twenty four year old who was abducted from the music festival all those many and too many months ago. And Dorian, who was thirty one and HERMAS militants took her on October the seventh. They will be the first three that will be released because there has.
Been a bit of movement in the past hour.
In fact, let's just quickly jump outver to what is happening with our colleagues in the UK, covering the response to what I are hearing from the Israeli officials who are confirming that the first of the hostages will be released shortly.
How you put it to the beginning of the end of the war, they wrong.
I hope it is, but it's not up to us. I hope it is.
As I said, first phase is a temporary ceasefire. Humas during all the negotiations insisted that to reach where we are today, we will pay with the end of the war with a permanent sea is far that will keep them in power.
We didn't agree to that.
We stood fear the Prime Minister and all the government that we will not withdraw from the objectives of the war. Finally they agreed to this path, which on the first phase includes a temporary cease fire. A consistent cease fire will be negotiated. Yes, I said from the sixteen days, and I hope we will reach it, but it's not in our hands yet.
You have said that, you have said that.
Well, it depends on the point of view. Those who hoped that.
Israeli concessions and with roles during the year will create hope for a security, stability and peace in the Middle East was.
Wrong as we saw that. I just mentioned our.
Last withal from Gaza Strip twenty years ago. There were big hopes at the time. Finally, I think everyone understand that it didn't contribute to peace, to security and to stability. So we must find a better way how to bring hope. And I'll tell you what it is to bring hope. First of all, Palestinians should disconnect from terrorism, and I including the Palestinian authority who still financed their still continue with the pay for Sleigh law, still pays terrorists.
And families of terroists.
According to the claim they did as much as there are more time in jail, they paid them more. This is not brings hope, it brings more terrorism.
Second, that is.
A spokesperson for the Israeli Foreign Ministry. The breaking news at the top of tonight's program is that after four hundred and seventy days in captivity, the first of the final round of people to be brought out of captivity to cross back from Gaza into Israel. Emily she's British in twenty eight, romy who was from the Nova Music Festival, and Dorian, who's thirty one, also taken from her family more than a year ago. What you are also going to start to see in the next little while is,
obviously the bombs have stopped falling on Gaza. Now, citizens are not going to be able to remove themselves from wh they currently are in Gaza and moved back towards the north of that area until the second phase of these things. But the live pictures that we are seeing from Gaza is relief for the people who live there that there.
Is no further harm coming their way.
But equally the concern of the next little while is that while it's going to be three people now and three people later and three it's very slow, very very slow, very very brittle. The next stage of this, which is in about six weeks time, is when if there are Israeli soldiers which are currently in captivity, they will be released. And then the stage after that is when the bodies that have been of the hostages that have died in captivity or soldiers which have been killed in Gaza, they
will be returned. But it is incredibly brittle we saw that what we're supposed to kick in at five point thirty this afternoon has not really kicked in until all about quarter to nine Australian eastern daylight time tonight, because the Israeli Prime Minister said, no, if nothing happens until you start to give us the names of who is coming, so we can obviously prepare those.
Families, and other families.
Will have to steal themselves that the people who they love are still behind enemy lines more throughout the hour. I've got a feeling this is going to be in and out over the next few minutes as things start to calm and relief comes to at least three families in Israel, and of course many many more on both sides of all of this, and anyone who is trying
to pay attention here in Australia. Now, I cannot meet this moment without referencing what happened late last week, which was an attempt to continue the fight from overseas here, an overt absolute intimidation and in my view, an attempted murder situation which played out in the eastern suburbs of Sydney. This is when a home that was the former home of a person who is a significant Jewish leader. You've seen him on television many times here on Sky News.
The cars were set on fire and the house was painted red to symbolized blood. There was also horrific things written about Jews on one of those cars. Now the target was not home because the target doesn't live there anymore, but someone somewhere thought that this is where this person lived. Someone somewhere thought that setting a fire, not just a cars, but potentially the damage that would happen to the homes would end up either intimidating this spokesperson from stop talking
or the wider Jewish community. That of course unacceptable, not tolerated at all. In this country, many and most have talked about the scourge of anti Semitism that has been.
Like wildfire through particularly.
Certain sections of Melbourne and Sydney, but it is a nationwide problem.
The reaction to the deliberate.
Targeting of a person who has had the courage to speak on the behalf of his community with concern of his community back in former countries is concerning, and as Sir Frank Lowi has spoken from Israel in recent hours, his fear is that someone is going to die before something serious takes place here. But this has been some of the reaction from the Jewish community too, that fire bombing towards the end of last week.
I fear that we're going to wake up before long with someone dad. I think that's the trajectory that we're on, and we've been there for a long time. When you have people in our society who were so consumed by wickedness and hatred that they would set fire to things, set fire to suburban streets, and risk the lives of everyone who lives here simply because they disagree with certain views or opinions, it shows that we're in a very dangerous state.
Absolutely.
Now, you can have whatever view about whatever is going on in other parts of the world, when you bring this garbage here, you will receive zero support from the Australian people. In fact, less than it, you will become a target of our law enforcement agencies and our governments and the decent people of the country, the people who have been here for generations or the people who have been here for a couple of weeks.
This stuff is not acceptable.
Now for obvious reasons, all and every if it must be made to make sure that this sort of behavior does not take any further property or God forbid, injure people.
Or take someone's lives.
Now an important part about where we are tonight, and I understand how fragile it is about this cease fire and about how many people are going to be released from the captivity that they have been in for the best part of as I say, four hundred and seventy days, is going to require the temperature to start to drop here in Australia. Now, I want to say well done to those who decided not to protest today as they have of every week since Israel's response to what happened
to them on October the seventh. These are people who are the people who have been focused on the Palestinian communities that they have connections to here in Australia, but of course back home now those people largely largely if they have been protesting for that purpose, will they have our support as a free country here the people who have used this situation to try to continue to spread hate or division, they do not have such support. But today there was a protest in Melbourne and people have
decided they aren't going to turn up. Why because the ceasefire was on the table for today now in effect tonight. Thankfully, some of those protesters have chosen not to turn up, but sadly there are protesters who have continued. Now I'm not entirely sure why they are going to continue. I'm also not entirely sure why the people who claim they were going to run against labor MPs are planning to do so now that cease fire, which is the first
stage towards peace, has been delivered. All I will say is on this issue, beware the people who want to maintain the rage or maintain the fight.
Now.
I'm not talking about the people who are keeping absolute eye on the evils of Hamas and those people releasing hostages. I am not talking about those people. I'm not talking about an end to walk conversation because there is a cease fire. What I am saying is that in the freedom of this country, it is time for the protests to stop, it is time for the hostages to be freed, and at a point in time it will be time for Gaza to rebuild. But this will play out on
the other side of the world. It must stop playing out on the streets of Australia. To the Monday Matters, of Australian politics. Let's get to this here. The first opinion poll is out of the election year and it is not good reading for the Prime Minister or the team.
Of which he leads.
Have a look at this yere now, the way the Poles ended last year was that News poll had the Labor Party on thirty three percent, the Liberal Party on thirty nine. The Resolve poll had twenty seven with the Liberal Nationals on thirty eight, and the Essential poll which has a don't know portion here, had the Labor Party on thirty percent and the Liberal national at thirty five percent.
To give you an idea of how that.
Compares to the twenty twenty two election, the Resolve poll is the best part of five points lower for the Labor Party. It is about the same in News poll. It's about two and a half maybe three percent lower
in the Essential poll. So the question is has the Prime Minister's announcement a day and billions here and billions there changed his fortunes over summer Well, according to that first poll, the Yugov poll which has been released over the weekend, the answer is no. In fact, even the Union Superannuation funded news website putting the best spin on it possible says that voters have turned off Labor in
the lead up to the election. When asked the question of how do you feel about the PM's leadership, forty percent of people have said that they are satisfied. But has this fifty five percent of people are saying that they are dissatisfied the Prime minister's leadership. How does that look for the primary vote? Well, I can show you this too, that the Labor Party vote is basically where it was at the last election, ever so slightly under,
but the coalition number is way back up. The closer they get to forty, the more likely they are to win an election. Asterisk deals all the rest of it. But that number shows that while Labor has moved nowhere, the coalition has come back into a position to be able to be very competitive or potentially win an election. That means in two party preferred that it is fifty one forty nine fifty one forty nine. As for what they were doing today, Prime Minister had more money, more
money each and every day to make an announcement. Of course, all of this ends up going off budget, not added to deficits, because of course it's an investment.
It has been sitting on the books for a long period of time. But what my governor is determined to do isn't just talk, it's to act and this project will transform this area. I want Western Sydney to be a gateway to the rest of the world.
As for Peter Dudden, he was giving a speech and this is good that he's going to be giving these big broad speeches each and every week in different areas, different messages. This was part of his announcement today in Brisbane about getting the country back on track at the election this year, and.
So today I announced that a coalition government will provide small businesses with a turnover up to ten million dollars with a tax deduction of up to twenty thousand dollars per year on food and entertainment at local clubs, pubs and restaurants excluding alcohol.
Good to see now in a couple of minutes time Sunday nights, each and every night, I want you to know what we know and what the parties know about what's happening inside the election. We're going to do a thing state of the race each and every week with people who know the data and the strategy from all sides of politics. We'll get to that in a moment or two's time. But as we speak on many people are looking because the Chinese surveillance app otherwise known as TikTok.
Just have a look at its evidence in parliamentary committees, both here and in the United States where it.
Has gone dark.
Why because Republicans and Democrats passed a law. It passed the Senate, it passed the House, and it was even signed off on by Joe Biden. It was due to coming to effect today in the United States, but on Saturday in the United States, very late at night, they decided to get in early and not wait for Trump to come back, but instead bang close the damn thing down.
And they're not taking it very well.
Hours and hours and hours.
Of time they put into creating stuff for this platform.
They cannot stop crying.
Because now but simply what you are watching here is people who are being forced into cold Turkey. It's probably how I react if they banned salt or sugar, But these people knew that it was coming. But it also is an example about just how far into the culture TikTok had infiltrated. Now TikTok is very different via its parent company in China versus the rubbish that gets run
around in the Western world. But can we stop this garbage as one hundred and seventy million people are affected by this Because if you actually have a look at what the Pew Research Institute came out with just late last year, the number one thing people do on social media is YouTube, followed by Facebook, followed by.
Daylight, and then it's Pinterest.
More people are on Pinterest in the United States than on TikTok. And again for those that are going to be disappointed, upset and all the rest of it. And I know you don't want your old mate from Australia telling you that there is a greater world outside of your phone.
But guess what, look up? Look up.
The sunrises are amazing, The sunsets are incredible. You live in an incredible country, lots of great rock and roll music, lots of other things to do. Real life is always more exciting than anything on the phone. But if you must return to the phone, of course, there's Instagram reels where I'm obsessed with this.
Guy, Ah, my spirit animal?
How good is that?
I can't wait? Would I be allowed to grow here like that? And have a little mo on, Telly. Let's all learn together. We've got a big future in front of us. Each and every Sunday, We're going to start to get serious and I want you to get as close to an insider's view about Australian politics as anyone's going to see on TV. I'm not talking about a
collection of reporters or journalists. I'm talking about people who know the data and can answer some very key questions which will give you an idea about whether things are going the way you want them to go or not. Now, we worded you to have Michael Kroger in the conversation tonight. Sadly the e Commodore sixty four isn't working, but I'm pleased to say the other half of the conversation who
will be the conversation tonight is Simon Wels. He works with the Red Bridge Group and he's a director of it. You may we'll see him with the wonderful Laura Jays during the week and I appreciate him turning up on the show with the salt and pepper beard like me. That is where we begin our understanding of politics in twenty twenty five.
So I'm nice to see. Thank you for doing this. Thank you to the red.
Bridge people for joining us on a Sunday night pleasure. I just really want to simply ask this question.
In any data that you've seen.
And I don't know whether you're doing the data now, but certainly that YouGov stuff that came out which was from about the middle of January, so the height of summer.
Has anything changed over summer?
Has anything tectonically moved from what seemed to be a bad end to the year for the Prime Minister, chiefly around cost of living?
Yeah, look, always take January polls with a pinch of salt, just as a general wall in life. You know who's around to answer poles during January. But that said, I think that pole sort of pointing to no change to the trend is probably on the money. There's nothing we've seen in any of our work to suggest that there's
been a change over summer. Usually over summer takes some pretty monumental there owns a catastrophic because it's often around sort of catastrophes to really sort of jolt people out of holiday mood, friends, family and all the rest of it, to get them to focus on the mundane politics as they would see it. So certainly nothing we've seen to suggest is any change to the trend.
Yeah.
I mean the most obvious example would say be a Scott Morrison. We're post the win in twenty nineteen when the fires were there at the start of twenty twenty, it was a fundamental break. He was able to get a second wind or third considering where things were, but he got another win back at the start of COVID. But we all know where that ended up going because in many ways and police just yell at me if I'm wrong here right, you know you're in primetime.
You can say whatever you want made, which is.
Once the perception of a leader starts to build, it's very difficult for them to be able to break it. And I remember a conversation that you had with Laura, and it was towards the end not of last year, but the year before, when they're people who were talking to you were starting to say things like incompetent. They were starting to notice a collection of very negative perceptions around the Prime minister, and as best as I could follow,
none of that really changed in twenty twenty four. Is this the difficulty for an incumbent government, regardless of who it is, that once they start to write you off, they generally don't give you another crack.
Yeah, it's people's views are formed over a period of time. The idea that you can fundamentally shift people's views in a campaign is I think a fallacious one. I think it has been like that for a very long time.
You can tinker at.
The edges, but core views of who you are as a leader and what you stand for are formed over time, and certainly for the Prime Minister, we saw we saw that erosion. We would watch in the focus groups how Elbow went from literally just about every group you would conduct early in their term of parliament would describing him as guy that I would like to have a beer with. You know that that is coming through in the groups. I know it's become a bit of a cliche, but
it's true that that has now changed. You know, the the origin story about you know him and his mum, that that has become a negative where people are saying, well, he should know better, and the fact that he sort of hasn't acted boldly on cost of living, done the kinds of reforms that people wanted from a labor government has eroded sort of the value of those stories and
has eroded the value of his leadership. He's got some real personal sort of leadership attribute attribute problems, because what happens is folk when you don't address something over a period of time, it starts to become they start to attribute it to a trait of you. So it's not just the circumstance. So early on, there was a lot of you know, he's inherited a difficult place. You know,
Global's story is pretty complicated. There was there's excuses. But what you see over time when there's as people say, it's sort of a lack of action on something, they start to attribute to that to a characteristic of you, a trait of you. And that trait of his is either he's not brave enough to do something, or he's not competent and he doesn't know how to do something. That's the kind of landscape that we're in at the moment.
Yeah, I think we've got Michael Krogan now who's going to give us his view on things now for obvious reasons, he simon, you know that I would like to see a change of government. So there's no mystery about where I'm coming from but I appreciate the sort of down the middle of this. But Michael, about what Simon has just been saying about the shifting perceptions that may well
become the defining characteristics of a politician. Let's have a look at how Peter Dutton the start of the year this central theme of getting the country back on track.
I think that's good.
However, there hasn't really been and we haven't seen, say a funny ad or something on social media that seems to be driving home what the negative perceptions of the prime minister are. Why haven't they started by trying to lock in the perception of the current prime minism as a way of trying to boost their chances of becoming prime minister.
Because the public can see for themselves what's happening. The Coalition have been doing that by saying Alberze's a weak prime minister, which everyone again can see, and Dutton is just just being very serious about things. You never see Dutton at a celebrity event. You don't seem at the tennis he's just head down, backside up, working hard for people.
Albanize he's been too associated part of every the other problem personally personally Paul, he's been associated with the glitter, Arty's sporting events, housing purchase, etc. I mean, he doesn't give the impression of being someone who's there for the long term and is seriously interested in the working middle class. So that is obvious to people already.
My friend now also, Simon, I'm interested to watch the caricature that each he's trying to build in and around social media.
Here right now, I think.
Mikhaylia cashes people at particular Lily Sharp because they keep using an image of the Prime Minister wearing a yes T shirt over and over and over and over and over and over again, because it's obviously reminded to well, that was his real priority, that was four hundred and fifty million dollars. That's where sixty percent of the population
ended up being on the opposite side of him. But in what you've been able to work out, is there a hangover with the swinging voter about the prime minister and the priority of that year, because clearly someone in the coalition things that's the image to ram down their throats.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean people will talk to us in the groups about how the government early on seemed to energize our doing a lot of stuff, and a lot of that energy went into this referendum, and post they sort of contrast that with post the referendum, we
haven't heard from them. Now that's as much about a communication problem as it is a policy problem, because there obviously has been things like there's been tax cuts and changes to childcare, and there's an important there which I might circle back to at some point our conversation about them not building a narrative around all of that, which is particularly important. So it's a communication problem as much
as it is a policy pom. But absolutely there is a perception of absence of this government at a time when economically, families, households were doing it incredibly hard. They were gone missing an action, but they seemed to be there and all about it during this referendum, which they never really explained to us. They just expected us to vote their way, and there was a sort of a
bit of sense of contempt. Let's use that word. I don't know if it's the right word, but that sort of sense that it was assumed that we would follow their lead without them sort of bringing us with them on their journey. So there's this seed of dissatisfaction around it. Couple that with the absence and yeah, absolutely you've got something that works.
And I'm not surprised.
They're running with Yeah, Michael, when we were in the run up to the last election, things seemed to go the way they were. You were very astute, I thought in suggesting that the political and verbal landmine to leave behind on your way out of office was to say watch interestrates, watch interest rates, we'll guess what ended up coming.
True.
There was one under Morrison in twenty two, and then there's been twelve since. And ruinous scenario now where the very Canberra people who all sort of want to count the grains of sand on the beach sometimes forget the view and they think that all will be forgiven if the pressure of twelve becomes eleven.
How does interest rates play in this game?
Because Howard was able to make a strong case in O four that'll always be lower under us, he paid a price when that changed in the lead up to seven. What's the line Dutton should be running on interest rates?
So the public think that the government has something to do with the interstrate level. They know there's this reserve bank out there that somehow says some independence, but the public think that government decisions affect interstrates and there one hundred percent correct in that. So the problem Albaneze's got is that his loss of control of federal government spending, not assisted by the state's loss of control of their spinning too, has led to higher interest rates for longer.
It's not going to help Albanizi. By the way, if he gets one intrast rate reduction before the election, people are just going to think, oh, this is somehow cynical, He's manipulated it somehow just to you know, give us a little bit of cake mari Antoinette style.
It's not going to help him.
I think the narrative is set. I don't think Albanizi can turn things around because it's not as he hasn't been trying, Paul, this guy's been trying to turn things around for six months.
He can't. He's type cast.
I think the government's type cast. And as we know, the worldwide vibe as they call it now, is against these left wing, big spending, woke governments, and he's right in the firing line.
Yeah.
I mean, simon the asterisk that I have said. You know, despite my obvious views here is that the battle for seventy six or the battle.
Even for minority is all in and around the Teals.
Now again, I don't know whether there's poles within polls and focus groups, within focus groups.
All the rest of it.
Have you seen any evidence that any of the Teals are in trouble or is the expectation, you know that they're somehow out of team Red team blue politics. So mathematically there's not going to be.
The rush towards the Libs.
I think in those Teal seats there's a possibility that you might see one on a really bad night for the Tells, you might see two come back. So we put out analysis at the end of last year that I think put curtain sort of in the too close to call kind of kind of basket. Goldstein a little bit further behind that. But you know, even if you even if they lose those seats, there's a real, live possibility that there's other seats that are picked up in
a Bradfield for example, and potentially others as well. So I think the Teal story sort of plays out in a neutral way. You know, it might be one seat sort of net thing, but that's not going to deliver you the seventy six that you need us you've pointed to. I think the real story here, the real battle here is that out of suburban, good old traditional labor Lib contests that we didn't see so much of in the last election. Our last election was the story of middle
class Australia. I think this is a story of working class Australia and those outer suburbs.
I'll ask you the same question, and there'll be a version of this probably every week between now and the election. But Michael, what is the one big issue that you think is out there for the taking that could really move some people.
So there isn't one big issue because the government's played its best cards already. It'll do something on childcare. They did something today, a big announcement to be nion dolllars. They haven't got any money. The public don't believe any of their expenditure anymore. It's just adding more debt to
you know, bloated government debt already. The one thing Peter Dutton can do is find some more cost of living measures which are going to be addressed to the working middle class and to let people know that the tax system basically doesn't work in their favor. It favors the major corporate sector more than it favors the working middle class.
If he can get a policy around that, and as I've said before, I've given him one, he will win in his own right because the public knows the tax system works against them, which it does, it doesn't favor them. If he can get onto that, he'll get more than seventy six in his own right.
Paul, all right, Well, long chap between now and then. Simon's same question about the people who just bring that one thing up. The politicians never want to talk about, but if they did, it would move evoke.
Yeah, but no surprises. I think the boring answer here is that this is a cost of living election, and labor's opportunity to shift votes, I think is at a come up with some policy themselves, some the ideas, and as I say, that narrative tied all together, a narrative, this kind of one off, kind of an announcement here, an announcement here that doesn't tie into a big narrative of how we're going to sort of build back the economy, build back the quality of life that we had prior
to COVID. That's the bit that's missing from them. And look, I think that they've got to try it. They've got to try and make done a risk to your household budget. They've got to make him an economic risk for you at the household level. But he won't be a moving target. I think Michael is exactly right. I think you will be putting forward some pretty well targeted policy. You've got to expect that. So I think that's going to be very difficult for Simon.
Michael.
I like this team.
I like it.
Let's convene again next week. Thank you, lads, do appreciate it very much.
So the State of the Race.
I'll do this each and every Sunday because the joy of a Sunday Night Paul Murray Live Show is this is.
For the hard course.
This is for the people who want the detail, who want the data, who want to know what's going on shore. We'll put the opinion in and.
Around it all.
One of the reasons why we love having more Michael there is because, of course he's been in the trenches plenty of times. The reason we like Simon as well is that they're not just doing polling, they're doing focus whip.
It's actually talking to voters and voters.
And they've got full perspective on As I said, maybe the stuff you want to see and the stuff you don't put a full perspective about what's.
Going on in Australia.
Fascinating election years. There's a nothing like them. Here on Sky News Quick break Back with more plenty to talk about here on Port Marie Life. Chris Kenny will join us from the United States where we get ready for the great Man to return just a couple of days from now. Thank you so much for watching. Let's get into it now. James Ashby from One Nation is there. He's joining us now from the beautiful state of Queensland. Looking good mate, How was summer for you?
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Now let's talk.
Here about what a lot of people going into the federal election I think are going to make a slight miscalculation. Is that because Trump was able to defeat all the things Trump was able to defeat, he was able to push aside a whole bunch of wokeness.
That's what's coming to Australia.
I think people need to actually have a look at how companies are reacting to the Australia Day discussion, how things like cricket Australia are reacting to no cricket on Australia Day, and they are not bending the same way that they have in other places like America. How do you see the battle around wokeness in twenty twenty five, and whether Australia is closer to Canada in the UK or Trump's America.
I'm going to say probably Canada and the UK. And I think that's because we tend to see a lot of political trends trickle here a lot slower than what we see in the US. So I know we've seen the US have I mean, the big tech companies have spoken out against it. They really gotten behind Trump's messaging, But I think it's going to take a little bit more time for any of those trends to come down here as we often see the case.
Yeah, James, you and I were all plenty online and we're seeing all of the things that are great about what's transferring in America. But there is a golf and I think that the wall of wopness is a little taller and a little stronger now in January twenty five in Australia than the bended knees that are starting to happen in the States.
Am I right?
I think Australians are starting to finally find their voice and that has been probably spurred on a little bit by the US election of Donald Trump. That is going to pay dividends for this country and I might just say ahead of our federal elections. So I think Trump's going to be speaking the same language as the majority of Australians. They may not say it publicly, but they're
saying it in their loungdrms. I know within my own family circles, they're starting to say, you know, we've got a safe space in our own home, but that safe space extends to the ballot box. And I think for a lot of people, they're going to be saying, we're going to have our say at this next election, whether it be for a major party or a minor party.
Australians have a chance whenever that federal election is to finally say we've had a gupful of this woke behavior and we're going to vote for somebody a little bit different. You don't have to vote for a major party. You can vote for a minor party like One Nation and then direct your preferences to the next best option. But I'd simply say this to people, if you've had a gupful of the two major parties, here's your chance at
this election. Do as they've done in America. Get rid of the current government because woke will send us broke.
And can I also say to people who are going, oh, yeah, but if I vote for One Nation, it's not going a mataic because there's going to be a liberal person anyway, whether there's going to be a labored person anyway or whatever other minor party. Here's the deal the Senate. Like think about how everything comes down to the Senate.
It's a statewide vote.
Okay, So yeah, all right, you know who knows what's going to happen with you your local MP.
But how you vote in the.
Senate, regardless of what is going to happen in your local electorate, will inform how many people go to the Senate and whether we end up with a super lefty Senate, a more centrius one, or one that is going to be a little more to all of our liking. Now, I think that the issue at this election which is going to jump people into places where historically they've never been before is buying a house. Now. I don't know
what role government turns around here. Government's not going to turn around and say, hey, you want that one bedroom unit for your kid, here's one hundred grand. I know that they're going to say, oh, well there's a pilot program for four fifth to bugger all people who've already gone in with their best mate, or the government's going
to help to buy. But in your reporting, is this one of these issues where you can see people that are hardcore labor people that if Peter Dutton somehow had a magical answer, they'd flip and vice versa for some conservative photus.
Absolutely, And I think we were talking about American trends coming into Australia. I think the working poor is something that we are seeing in Australia which we didn't have before. But increasingly I've spoken to people who both parents are working and they've got good jobs, but they're struggling to meet against meat and a lot of posters have also said that those mortgage belts it's out of suburban areas in metropolitan cities are going to be the tough spot.
So I don't think Australians are as loyal to a party they've always been. This time around. They are loyal to whoever's going to get them the best deal on their cost of living.
They're not even loyal to a phone company. Littlee politics right now. But again James, that factor. We're again in regional Queensland, where again it's going to be slightly easier to buy. But that's if you're expecting people to still be earning Sydney or Melbourne corporate money. But of course they don't the further we go. So how many people when you were running for state politics or in your position now, how big an issue is I want somewhere for my kids to buy, where people will go You
know what? You could be the workest of work. But if somehow you've got an answer for this, I'm seriously going to think about you.
You know, Paul, It's never been easy for a person to buy a house. It doesn't matter what generation we're talking to. The people at home there in their seventies, eighties, forties, fifties, doesn't matter. It's always been difficult to get into the housing market, whichever demographic you look at. And I hate to say it, I know a lot of people are living paycheck to paycheck, trying to put that money away. I know other reports are out there saying people are
doing that. But even when you own a home, you're living paycheck to paycheck. I put a new clothesline out in the back, you know, hit me four hundred bucks.
I was lucky.
I could still dig a hole myself. I could still concrete that thing in. Otherwise it probably cost me another four hundred bucks to put it in. It doesn't matter whether you own a home or you're renting. There are still ongoing costs, and this is the difficulty for a lot of people. It's never easy to get into the housing market. But don't think that once you're in, it's a free Rideer it's an easy ride because you've still got maintenance, You've still got upgrades you want to do.
I just went and had dinner with friends who put a new kitchen in the house. It's a unit. It cost him close to one hundred thousand dollars. So all these things people have to think about. Whatever you're doing out there, whether you're renting or buying, it's still tough no matter which way you try and slice or dice it.
I'm not saying it's any easier either way, but it's going to be tough for Ossie's moving forward because nothing is easy in this country, especially when you've got an influx of migrants coming into the country under both major parties, but particularly under Labor. There's going to be a huge influx of migration under Labor if we give them a
second term. The coalition is slightly better, but I think we should be more focused on looking after Australian so that we can lower the price of housing and affordability moving forward.
And gi Robartawaje, did I get it?
Damn it.
I'm telling you I'm going to get it. I'll get it. I apologized on it all right.
TikTok Are you sucked into the Chinese surveillance app Are you glad that you're not in America and it's disappeared?
Or you can see the forest for the trees.
I've been there. I can't say that I haven't fallen into that trap in the past, but maybe less so now that all the American TikTok influencers are going to leave and there's less content on there. I know a lot of people in America are pretty frustrated by that, and there's been pressure here domestically for Anthony Alberzi to do something on this. So maybe we'll be in the same boat and we're all going to be sobbing over losing TikTok.
Well, the version, of course, is going to be in and around the teenage stuff, which I know people have had very strong views on.
But we'll wait and see where this goes.
All Right, James and bold prediction for the Weak Ahead, what's definitely happening because the power of the bold prediction on Paul Murray Live is that it is enforceable by law.
Well, I can't see things improving for the Albanese government, but I also don't see things improving for the coalition over time. I think there's a lot of pork barreling going on over the next couple of months. Ossie's or are awake to this, and I think that piling results probably won't move that much for either of the major parties. Probably see an increase to parties one nation as we start to roll out our policies.
Good Man, I love it. I love it when he's on message. Good to see it. All right, And Geira, what is it for you?
He said, bold, not realistic. I'm going to go for some wishful thinking and maybe the PM will call the election great adimam misery.
Well from your mouth. You know it's legally enforceable. Thank you, welcome aboard.
I appreciate it.
I'd love to see new faces and good people with plenty of things to say here on a Sunday night, or every night here on Paul Maurray Life.
Thank you, guys.
We'll see you again. In a moment or two. We're going to be joined by Chris Kenny, who's in Washington. The Great Man is about to reassume the position of president, but he'll be doing it inside.
Chris.
It's bloody cold there. Thanks for watching.
Don't forget you go to send me an email Paul at skynews dot com dot are you all the highlights of everything we do, including this right now creepy right because it's happening live on your telling is a skynews dot com dot AU now. Best place in the world to be apart from your place right now is Washington, DC because the great man Donald Trump is about to return to the presidency. And speaking of great men, Chris Kenny is watching it all for us with the Capitol
behind him. Are the memories when I was there on election night, but you're there as he's about to become president, Chris.
We look forward to new shows this week.
Mate.
How's it going great.
To talk to you, Paul.
You'd love to be here right now. I know it's not very cold at the moment. It's just above zero for us, but it's going to get a lot colder in the next few days.
I'll mention in a moment.
But the great thing about the town at the moment, the reason you'd love to be here is, as you know, Washington, d C. Is the swamp. This is the home of the left and the woke. It's the Canberra bubble on steroids ninety three percent of the people in Washington, d C. Voted for Kamala Harris, and not too many Trump supporters
in these parts. But at the moment, they're coming in from all around the country, and as we've wandered around the streets today, we've spoken of people have come in from Florida, from Louisiana, plenty came in from Texas on our flight from Dallas, as well, people from nearby Virginia.
These are the people who think Washington d C. Ignore them.
Well, they're taking it over this week to celebrate the return of Donald Trump, who they reckon might actually drain the joint this time.
And things do feel different this time around, don't they Because the first time, for fellow Trump supporters, let's be honest, it felt a little bit like we had won lotto. But this time we all saw it coming the arm wrestle where we're all part of, and it's a very broad.
And definite win.
They also come in with a whole bunch of very detailed plans, including on day one, whether you're going to start the deportation of the midions of illegals that Biden led in over the years. Do you think that Trump supporters this time have a feeling that rather than the hope of change, that change is coming to America in just a couple of days.
Yeah, they really think this is the reset. This is really happening. They think is this is a return to the way things ought to be, And we spoke to a lot.
Of them around the place today.
Of course, the big disappointment for them is that the inauguration ceremony has been moved inside.
We mentioned the weather at start.
It's going to snow most of tomorrow, that's Sunday, Washington, DC time, and.
Then that's not going to be too bad.
That'll be pretty it'll make things difficult to get organized, and it will be very nice to see. It's not going to be super cold, just below zero. But on Inauguration Day the forecast is for minus ten and strong wind. So for the first time since Ronald Reagan was sworn in for the second time in nineteen eighty five, they're going to have the inauguration in the capital rotunda. They'll only be about six hundred people in there instead of
hundreds of thousands out in the mall. So this is one of the things I talked about.
With people around the streets today have a look.
So with the weather forecast for an auuration day being absolutely abysmal, it's a sad site today to see the grand stands.
Instead of being ready to be filled, they're being pulled down.
We found plenty of people getting around the city with a lot of enthusiasm anyway.
So it is Donald Trump and New Yorker are a Floridian. He loves the tax treatment in Florida. We're here just to support our presidents.
So are you disappointed that the show is going to be moved inside?
I guess a little bit.
It will been nice to be, you know, be outside, be a part of it, but unfortunately have bad weather coming.
It's going to be cold, so I think it's for the better.
So why is German TV bringing a cut out of Donald Trumper?
Not popular? Maybe it's a little bit stupid. People like it. And how popular is Donald Trump in Germany? Not at all. You don't understand him, you know, we don't like that kind of down.
We drove from Louisiana, so you know, we wanted to see everything one see the parade.
Especially giving you guys are from Florida.
It's pretty bloody cold around here and the whole show is being moved indoors.
Are you disappointed with all those changes? It's not because of the cold. That's not because of the cold.
It's for security.
Let's be honest. We all know that. We just truth. So there you go, Paul. They're going to enjoy themselves anyway.
This talk about the security concerns really prompting the move in, I don't think that stacks up, certainly.
None of the.
Officials say that it's all about the weather.
And Donald Trump himself also says it's all about the weather.
It is going to be bitterly cold.
And sure, if you're rugged up and got all the right gear, it'll be fine. But a lot of elderly people here and security staff and police would have to be out in that weather all day minus ten with a windshiel of maybe minus twenty. So that's why it's inside. It's changed everything. The Capitol One Arena, where I saw a basketball game a few weeks ago, well, tonight they're having an ice hockey game there. Tomorrow.
Donald Trump's having his planned victory parade there or rally there.
And now because the inauguration has been moved indoors, he'll have that the second day, another rally, an inauguration rally, if you like, instead of the normal parade down Pennsylvania.
Haven't you before I let you go?
The cease fire?
Now we know this thing has been a very bumpy deal, long waited process, and as we have seen this evening, it is very very fragile.
I think it's crossed.
Everything gets worked out, people start to get released, and in six weeks from now the world is in a better place. Do you think any of this was possible if Trump didn't win, because we know where Biden and Harris were. They've been saying since May of earlier last year.
Yeah, the thing is.
That Donald Trump is reshaping the global order even before he's been inaugurated for the second time.
That's absolutely clear.
And yeah, we all know about the threats Donald Trump made against Hummas. Hand over the hostages or there'll be all hell will break loose. Well, there are a lot of speculation too that that pressure also worked on Benjaminette Yahoo, that the Israelis have been forced into making an agreement as well, because Trump has demanded it.
But the thing is that today, just in the last.
Couple of hours, Donald Trump has repeated if this deal is broken.
By harmas there will be all hell to pay.
So he really is putting a lot of weight on this, a lot of emphasis on this, and his new regime is committed to making it happen. But there's a lot to unfold in coming days. The one thing you've got to remember about this deal is that we all agree Hummus should be destroyed, and even the lefties agree Hummus should have.
No role in the future of Gaza. But it's Hummus you're doing the deal with.
So it is fraught, but Donald Trump has got it as a number one priority at the moment, there's no doubt.
Or I made enjoy Mega Christmas. I wish I was there.
Remember if you're getting any T shirts for me, it is a five XL. I know everyone would just think small to medium, but alas I shop at Raise.
Out Doors for all my clothing needs. We'll see you on the Telly tomorrow five o'clock. That can you report live from.
Washington, d C.
We love you, mate, I tell you what, Mate, if we get through the week and have a success, I might even smoke a cigar for you.
Ha ha.
Don't promise, don't promise.
Shelley's back room if you want to, though Washington, where you actually believe it or not, can do that and eat. It's a different world regardless of who was the president of the United States. Now there's been a bit of an update from what's happening in Israel. One of the ministers in Benjamin Ettina, whose government has actually resigned, and as a result of the ceasefire deal which has been put.
In place, three hostages expected to.
Be released between now and when Peter Stefanovic joins you again in the morning. But this now means the political situation in Israel becomes as fragile as the overall cease fire deal, which thankfully is now in place. Plenty more at this time tomorrow night. Make sure you keep your eyes, as always where they are a
